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#75 - Dusty Locane · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, Welcome to the Boulet KP podcast.
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Speaker 1: What's going on? We got an interview today man with
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Speaker 1: the Dusty Locine who's representing KNARSI New York City. So
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Speaker 1: I actually went out to New York and shot a
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Speaker 1: piece of content with this guy that's coming out soon
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Speaker 1: through above all but nice young man. He's kind of
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Speaker 1: came onto the scene with a song called Rolling and
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Speaker 1: Controlling just started rapping last year. A lot of people
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Speaker 1: would say he sounds like pop smoke. They're from the
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Speaker 1: same neighborhood, and he does have the same they sound
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Speaker 1: very similar. But we sit down with him, you know,
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Speaker 1: I got to spend some time with him, and he
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Speaker 1: is his own man, and I think he's, you know,
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Speaker 1: gonna be a to prove himself a lot more than
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Speaker 1: the guy who sounds like pop smoke. So we're gonna
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Speaker 1: Dusty Locane. All right, yo, man, it's the Bootleg keV Show.
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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in here, my guy, Dusty Locane.
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Speaker 1: Finally may it out to l a man from the
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Speaker 1: Flaws to to North Hollywood. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Welcome bro he uh. You know I got to go
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Speaker 1: out to Canarsi and and and function with you and
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Speaker 1: your people. I got to check out your neighborhood. We
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Speaker 1: went to the studio. Yeah man, yeah, a lot, man.
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Speaker 1: You know I was. I've been telling a lot of
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Speaker 1: people that you really are sitting on some like serious
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Speaker 1: records because I think the rolling and controlling freestyle people,
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Speaker 1: it's like it's a record that you're either gonna love
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Speaker 1: it or you ain't gonna rock with it, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you got some big records that
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Speaker 1: you were just like that. You're you played me probably
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Speaker 1: like twenty songs and they were I mean, bruh, salute
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Speaker 1: is all I'm gonna say. Once you start dropping. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know you just dropped. We got two new records
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Speaker 1: out in the last Yeah, that record was dope rolling
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Speaker 1: the controlling pot. But you got some joints. You know,
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Speaker 1: it was crazy you never heard rolling Controller. I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear that song. Yeah, I ain't. I ain't. Nobody ain't
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Speaker 1: make it. I ain't making yet when I met you.
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Speaker 1: I made that ship probably about two weeks before we
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Speaker 1: jumped it in Atlanta. So that's a fresh one, a
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Speaker 1: fresh one. Yeah. So we saw that we broke the
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Speaker 1: whole order for that, because I want people to understand
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Speaker 1: that you could really make real records, like you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you got some records bro that Uh.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna make the Empire Radio staff their
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Speaker 1: job extremely easy whenever they come out. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: It like that. How is it being in la I
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Speaker 1: saw you? I mean, obviously for people who don't know,
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Speaker 1: uh rolling and controlling shout out to the Rolling Sixties,
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Speaker 1: neighborhood Rolling Sixties Shi allegedly allegedly allegedly back with that
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Speaker 1: allegedly you know that. Yeah, but but you you actually
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Speaker 1: came out here and and tapped in with you know,
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Speaker 1: the origins of of of the Rolling Sixties. I saw
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Speaker 1: you know on your IG story. You were over there
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Speaker 1: yesterday shooting the video. How was that? Man? It was
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Speaker 1: as life changed, you know because I was talking to
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Speaker 1: that mic. I was get that mic. You know, I've
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Speaker 1: seen all this ship on like YouTube and movies, but
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Speaker 1: I ain't never been nowhere like that. Like they're really
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Speaker 1: from the same ship, just a different hood, you see
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's different city, different states. So
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Speaker 1: it was like me going in fuck right at home,
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Speaker 1: like niggas they showed me love like I knew them
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Speaker 1: all my life. Yeah, I mean you're holding it, you're
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Speaker 1: holding down the you know, the set on the other
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Speaker 1: side allegedly, you know what I'm saying, shout out to
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Speaker 1: Nip though. Man, how was that though? Like cause I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people, you know l A obviously
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Speaker 1: you know the origins of a lot of gangs are here,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and did you always
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Speaker 1: have like big homies that were out here or like
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Speaker 1: you know, I only knew the neighborhood niggas from East
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Speaker 1: Coast right, you know, but more or less through this
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Speaker 1: rapping and tapped me in with Well, really, let me
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Speaker 1: be real, you gotta be tapped in with somebody if
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Speaker 1: you East Coast cripping jack in the West Coast, you
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Speaker 1: feel me set, you know what I'm saying. So I
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Speaker 1: heard of him feel me names was brought up to me,
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Speaker 1: but I ain't get to actually be around and ship.
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Speaker 1: So that in itself for me was such a big thing,
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Speaker 1: like for them to really take me in with no embrace,
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Speaker 1: embrace me fully, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
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Speaker 1: I felt, like I said, right at home, home away
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Speaker 1: from home. That's amazing. For people who don't know you
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Speaker 1: play basketball, that was that that was your original like
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Speaker 1: dream was to do the basketball, go to that was
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Speaker 1: your original thing, right, how far did you get hooping Juco?
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Speaker 1: So junior college? Junior college on need to like a
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Speaker 1: semester and a half. That was after that mester in
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Speaker 1: a half, and then it was it was back to
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Speaker 1: KANNARSI where'd you play junior college at Swoye Jefferson to
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Speaker 1: Upstate State New York, Canada? Oh shit, like thirty minutes
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Speaker 1: from Toronto. So you was like, right at the border.
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Speaker 1: Did you ever go over to Toronto? I heard it's
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Speaker 1: hard to get into Canada if you if you're like
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Speaker 1: I heard it, it's easier to get into Mexico than
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Speaker 1: it is to get into Canada. I heard they don't
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Speaker 1: funk around at the Canadian border. Yeah, I even I
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Speaker 1: didn't even go by your two ones. You're telling me
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Speaker 1: you got to go job there. Ain't have no call, right,
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Speaker 1: So it's not like I was from me. I was
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Speaker 1: just like I heard about it minutes away. Fuck it,
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Speaker 1: fuck it. So once you left college came back to
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Speaker 1: your neighborhood, what point in time, I mean, obviously around
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Speaker 1: that area your whole life, but at what point in
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Speaker 1: time would you really start to get kind of active
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Speaker 1: in the quote unquote you know, your your area as
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Speaker 1: far as you know, basketball's in your past, you know.
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Speaker 1: But like I said, I was always jacking it even
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Speaker 1: before that, I wasn't like, you know, it was always,
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Speaker 1: like I said, something that was in me, not on me.
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Speaker 1: So I jack crip before I was cripped. I walk
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Speaker 1: around with a flag around my head, take the train,
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Speaker 1: all of that, right, it was even on a set.
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Speaker 1: Feel me like that was just it was just like
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Speaker 1: I said, it was something. It was just I fucked
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Speaker 1: through the heavy that I fucked with, the with the
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Speaker 1: with the whole culture. And I was from I'm from there,
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Speaker 1: so it's like it was a no brainer by the
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Speaker 1: time I turned like seventeen eighteen, like, feel me be
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Speaker 1: fully active man that area and that that was kind
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Speaker 1: of the area like that that was where you grew
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Speaker 1: up with was was kind of that was the section
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Speaker 1: that it was essentially that was around you anyway. Oh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was already. It wasn't like I could have avoided it.
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Speaker 1: I ain't go to no private, no private schools or
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Speaker 1: I was in public schools from me and I was
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Speaker 1: in one of the one of the one of the
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Speaker 1: bad high schools too. At that public school, so feel me.
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Speaker 1: But more or less, yeah, I'm a product of my environment.
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Speaker 1: But I flipped the script. You know what I'm say,
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Speaker 1: not for sure. Man, Now you gotta take what they
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Speaker 1: try to use to hold you back and let it
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Speaker 1: push you forward. So that's what I did. That's what
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Speaker 1: you're doing man. For people who don't know how, I mean,
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Speaker 1: when did you actually start rapping like it was in
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Speaker 1: the pandemic? Right? Yeah? No, no, no no, that's the one
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Speaker 1: two words because I got locked in the pandemic. But
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Speaker 1: like I used to just boom like outside the Man's
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Speaker 1: Bandit Jogger. They was rappers, feel me do what I
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Speaker 1: was doing my ones and tools I was. I was
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Speaker 1: never a rap. I was into that. But they were
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Speaker 1: telling me, you'll pull up film me. I'll go smoke
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Speaker 1: cool it, film me Monlucual one two jen zis drinker
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Speaker 1: lit cool and after that I'll just be chilling and
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Speaker 1: if they get tired, I try some shit. You got
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Speaker 1: the look, you got the voice, go do that shit
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Speaker 1: because I'll try it. But I never I never really
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Speaker 1: took to it, you know, like it was just like
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Speaker 1: that's just something there. Never Yeah, So I never put
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Speaker 1: out a truck. I'll say before Corona had about four
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Speaker 1: tracks and like it was mainly features and the other
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Speaker 1: ones was just dumb ship Like one time I was
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Speaker 1: mad drunk, I just made a freestyle barely anyway, these
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Speaker 1: were online. I ain't never dropped nothing, so they were
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Speaker 1: just on your phone. Niggas are being a call head
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Speaker 1: out the window like it's the littlest track. But niggas
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Speaker 1: always took to my shiit because niggas know what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about, and for me, that's really what it is.
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Speaker 1: So but I'll say when I really say, it's that time.
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Speaker 1: It was like Corona two words came home right after
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Speaker 1: that LinkedIn with my boy Bob and that was Rowland Controlling.
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Speaker 1: Was that your first official release, my first official release,
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Speaker 1: and on top of that, you know, it was really
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Speaker 1: like from beginning to end, freestyle all off the top
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Speaker 1: of your head six and the way it happened like
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Speaker 1: it's just I heard the beat. I'm thinking to myself,
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Speaker 1: this ship is crazy. Told my man's running back, put
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Speaker 1: down my phone right there, put the recorder down straight.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. And at that time where like, you know,
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Speaker 1: because at the time you didn't have a following you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What what? No social media? That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What what what what platform? Did that really
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Speaker 1: start to heat up on? Oh? Let me that's a
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Speaker 1: story too. I never really got to, you know, tell nobody.
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Speaker 1: But when I first came home, I got into a
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Speaker 1: little situation with some we're not gonna say names, but
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Speaker 1: with some I say, not the other side, but people
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Speaker 1: who was portraying to be the other side. And I
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Speaker 1: wanted to do something about it. But you know today
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Speaker 1: telling your chill cause like, yeah, I don't even go
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Speaker 1: that feel me smart move. So I went on the
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Speaker 1: Love my Man's love on Facebook at the time, Facebook,
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Speaker 1: Yeah you feel me? I still I have no social media.
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Speaker 1: So I went on his phone and on his ship.
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Speaker 1: We did like a good I'll say about two and
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Speaker 1: a half hours. Me in a Telly that night. Niggas
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Speaker 1: is all. We're just chilling. Some bitches was about to
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Speaker 1: pull up. So we were on the love sit and
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Speaker 1: then it just started jriinking. Like at one point it
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Speaker 1: had like one hundred viewers and overaller had thirty two
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Speaker 1: thousand at the end of it, like on the Facebook Live,
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Speaker 1: on the Facebook lives, so people are like, oh feel me.
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Speaker 1: They oh, look at this thuskin and talk politics, listen
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Speaker 1: to the voice mad shit. It was mainly the females though,
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Speaker 1: you know, like niggas ain't never going to be the
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Speaker 1: first ones to gravitate, especially when, of course, of course
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Speaker 1: they're going most likely hate they. So the females really,
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Speaker 1: that's my The females and the kids, I would say,
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Speaker 1: is who I really look to and appreciate the most.
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Speaker 1: Because niggas be bandwagon. They they just oh now the
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Speaker 1: bitches is all around him. Now we got to be
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Speaker 1: around him because we want some pussy too, like me.
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Speaker 1: So it's like them two sex and them my niggas
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Speaker 1: of course, but anything outside of that, I'll show my
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Speaker 1: respects to the females, the kids feel me. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: jinked from there, it was like niggas make Instagram, make
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Speaker 1: Instagram making. I made it June twenty seventh. I still
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Speaker 1: got the first. I got my all child, but you
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Speaker 1: can see it said from me June twenty seventh. This
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Speaker 1: was my first post. So that was your first post?
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Speaker 1: And what day what day did you put rolling and
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Speaker 1: controlling out? I don't know what day was that hat July. Wow,
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Speaker 1: that's crazy, yeah, and I ain't really have no I
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Speaker 1: have faith in it because through you know, like I said,
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Speaker 1: through Bobby, I was able to get signed. But it
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Speaker 1: wasn't like he knew I had it in me. I'm
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Speaker 1: just like, I ain't never do this before. But I'm
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Speaker 1: going head I'm going head first, like I ain't thinking
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Speaker 1: about nothing at in the back of my mind. It's like, damn,
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Speaker 1: it's something new to me. I got high hopes, so
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Speaker 1: if this ship don't go the way I expected to go,
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna break me. It's gonna make me go
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Speaker 1: even harder. But at the same time, it was like
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Speaker 1: this gotta be it. This highs to be it? What
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Speaker 1: was Bobby could probably answer this better than you can't,
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Speaker 1: but he's standing over here. But I'm curious because at
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Speaker 1: the time you had no music out. You just created
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Speaker 1: an Instagram account. So for someone like Bobby Fisher from
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Speaker 1: Empire to step out and like really see something in you,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that that that doesn't happen nowadays. Often
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Speaker 1: it's easy to come in when something's already on fire
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Speaker 1: and poor gasoline on him, but it's hard. It's harder
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Speaker 1: to start the fire, feel me, So like I said,
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Speaker 1: that's somebody who believed in me before anybody else did
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Speaker 1: around me. He's seen it feel me and like that
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Speaker 1: to me was the biggest, the biggest, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think somebody could have ever different me. I was pop
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Speaker 1: broke and ain't had no breech. He's stealing the people
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Speaker 1: in my people's crab about my brother. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: when I came home, went back to my people's crib
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Speaker 1: and shit. But you know, Nigga ain't had no real options.
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Speaker 1: He gave me your option. But I presented myself as
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Speaker 1: you know me. He said, I see that this is him.
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Speaker 1: You feel me like just who he is from the
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Speaker 1: time you wake up tom to go to sleep, feel me.
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Speaker 1: Nothing changes about him. So, like I said, Bobby, that's
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Man, we won't be together. Well yeah
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Speaker 1: six So yeah, and you guys have I mean, he's
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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys got I think that at the moment,
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Speaker 1: you probably have a lot of generic fans who probably
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Speaker 1: see you on Instagram but probably are your nay sayers.
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Speaker 1: I'd say, who you know because you got a few
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Speaker 1: records out, But I think that, oh yeah, they don't
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Speaker 1: know what's they don't know what's coming. But those who
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Speaker 1: not you got to tune them in. That's up to me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure, body else but me to say, well, look,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to show you what I'm made of and
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Speaker 1: what I'm capable of everything. Take tom though. So that's
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Speaker 1: why I ain't really rushing nothing. You can never say
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Speaker 1: you've seen me try to force it, waiting my turn.
14:38
Speaker 1: Through everything I ever did in life, I always waited
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Speaker 1: my turn. That was a constant for me. So when
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Speaker 1: everybody was politicing on Instagram, this he trying to be this,
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Speaker 1: trying to do this, I was working, you see what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when it did come to time now
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Speaker 1: for me to perform, there was no There's no flaws there.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta make sure when
14:57
Speaker 1: nobody's looking is when you're doing that. So now that
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Speaker 1: you're looking, there is no denying it, right right right.
15:03
Speaker 1: I think too, a lot of people who would be
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Speaker 1: in your position because you obviously compared so much to
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Speaker 1: Pop Smoke, who's from your from your area, because you
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Speaker 1: guys sold, you guys went to elementary school together. You
15:15
Speaker 1: guys are from the same hood. Like I think that
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Speaker 1: a lot of people would run from that. But I
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Speaker 1: feel like you've paid a lot of respect and also
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Speaker 1: have taken taken on the challenge of saying yes, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe I was inspired by Pop of course, but at
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Speaker 1: the same time, I'm gonna show you I'm my own dude.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is all around you and
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Speaker 1: you should look to them eyes motivation, nothing less, nothing
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Speaker 1: more For me, like I watched other people portray you know,
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Speaker 1: like certain things like yeah, we was this, we was that,
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Speaker 1: and the actuality using that for cloak, You're trying to
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Speaker 1: get your own name up based off another person. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm paying my respects, but through like I said, my
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Speaker 1: work ethic and my job, you're going to see how
15:55
Speaker 1: we separate, how we differ well, but it actuality, we
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Speaker 1: want the same filmy flows do one way in, no
16:02
Speaker 1: way out. Niggas know that there it is man there. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: For people who don't know your area, Canarsi is an
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Speaker 1: area that is probably one of the least known outside
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Speaker 1: of New York. You know, we're in l A. We
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Speaker 1: hear Brooklyn, we know what Brownsville is. We know. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like Canarsi probably has gotten the least
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Speaker 1: amount overlooked for a long time. Yeah, and we was
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Speaker 1: doing We was the ones getting most of the money.
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Speaker 1: Feel me. We was a lot of other ships too,
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Speaker 1: but you know, niggas kept that little profile. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: Pop brought us to the light. Feel me. He said, well,
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Speaker 1: look his niggas over here giving it up the same
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Speaker 1: way niggas is over there. Feel me. We just I'm
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Speaker 1: just another person who's gonna prove that the the name
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Speaker 1: the Flass was that came from a fabulous record, right,
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Speaker 1: I believe so fabulous, said I don't think he said
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Speaker 1: it in the line something like that. He told me
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Speaker 1: that he Flos is the Flos because that's what we do. Yeah,
17:04
Speaker 1: you know, that's what we do day in and and day out,
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Speaker 1: from even before was fluorcing, Like this was florcing for me.
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Speaker 1: So it's not really what'sing you like I said, seen you? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I had Big U sitting in that same
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Speaker 1: chair and he said that. He said, I don't got
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Speaker 1: no tattoos. And you know, Big You is a legendary
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Speaker 1: figure in the streets. You know what I'm saying. He said,
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Speaker 1: save twenty percent. What is next? Like? I know you?
18:24
Speaker 1: You you're sitting on a lot of records. Are we
18:27
Speaker 1: just doing the single thing for now? We're dropping singles.
18:30
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it that way. I told everybody Life
18:33
Speaker 1: of a Five, which is the album name, it will
18:35
Speaker 1: be dropping. What I said, June eleventh my c date.
18:39
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's coming up, but that's no longer. Feel me.
18:42
Speaker 1: We're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna postpone that due to
18:45
Speaker 1: the fact that every time we're going to a studio,
18:48
Speaker 1: some new ship and some shit that you just can't
18:52
Speaker 1: can't make up. You just gotta beat it to just know, like, damn,
18:55
Speaker 1: so the album's not coming out June eleventh anymore. No, No,
18:58
Speaker 1: to let everybody, no, no, what's not so to be determined?
19:01
Speaker 1: To be determined? You know it's crazy because I feel
19:05
Speaker 1: like you're getting better at your craft. Like people don't
19:10
Speaker 1: realize you just started rapping. Man, this shit is crazy,
19:13
Speaker 1: like for people who don't know, like man, like there's
19:15
Speaker 1: people who do this shit for twenty years and won't
19:17
Speaker 1: even sniff the level of success that you got off
19:20
Speaker 1: your first record. Do you feel like every time you
19:23
Speaker 1: it's almost like riding a bike. You're gonna get better
19:25
Speaker 1: every time you feel like you're improving as a MC. Yeah,
19:28
Speaker 1: most definitely. I think you know what it is. Like
19:30
Speaker 1: I said, with everything out in din it. In my
19:32
Speaker 1: life overall, it was always about getting to new heights basketball.
19:38
Speaker 1: I started out the back of the line right by
19:42
Speaker 1: my eleventh senior grade year as a star player. Everybody
19:46
Speaker 1: know my name in the school. That was just it
19:48
Speaker 1: was just like it was always something in mind, can't
19:51
Speaker 1: fit in. I gotta stand out for that. You gotta work.
19:55
Speaker 1: My work ethic and my determination stems from basketball, stems
19:59
Speaker 1: from sports. I played for ball two going up, but
20:01
Speaker 1: it stems from all of that because you know, you
20:02
Speaker 1: got to be disciplined. Yeah, so themselves to practice. Yeah,
20:06
Speaker 1: you know me, I was working out day in and
20:08
Speaker 1: day out, eating day in and day out. So I
20:10
Speaker 1: was telling myself, hearing themselves push ups, I'm not stopping
20:13
Speaker 1: till my body can't stop. Now my mind mind to
20:16
Speaker 1: tell your body to stop when you could really keep going.
20:18
Speaker 1: So I just that's how I learned, and that that
20:21
Speaker 1: works with everything. That's not just for what you're doing.
20:24
Speaker 1: You got to take that outside of everything you're doing
20:26
Speaker 1: and use it in every walks of life. So that's
20:29
Speaker 1: what I tried to do. How long were you locked up? Long?
20:32
Speaker 1: It was? I was remanded and it's a seventy two
20:34
Speaker 1: hour old but through the corona that was lifted, they
20:38
Speaker 1: no longer so I was just in there for me
20:40
Speaker 1: and they didn't allow me to post my bill. So
20:42
Speaker 1: my lawyer was just fighting for motions. Motions, motions for me,
20:46
Speaker 1: and I've never really gotten them too. Are you? Are
20:49
Speaker 1: you past whatever I really be talking about us? But listen,
20:53
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to have a fucking case
20:56
Speaker 1: floating over your head that should if you think about
20:58
Speaker 1: it too much, it'll get fuck with think about it.
21:01
Speaker 1: The only reason I don't think about it is because
21:02
Speaker 1: my understanding that you know, you gotta whatever you do,
21:05
Speaker 1: there's repercussions behind them, and if you're not willing to
21:09
Speaker 1: accept those, you can't be caught. The man grol men
21:12
Speaker 1: know that there's repercussions, and one day or the other
21:15
Speaker 1: you may have to face those. Without getting too far
21:18
Speaker 1: deep into the politics of what's going on in Brooklyn,
21:24
Speaker 1: you know, there's a very you know, if for people
21:28
Speaker 1: who've never even sniffed Brooklyn, they know about the politics
21:30
Speaker 1: of the streets that's going on between we won't even
21:34
Speaker 1: say right, but but there's but there's a lot of
21:37
Speaker 1: it's spilled over in the rap. You know what I'm saying,
21:40
Speaker 1: there's rappers on both sides. People have gotten stabbed. It's
21:43
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, one hundred. You're someone who obviously, man,
21:51
Speaker 1: you're special, you have a star quality. And there's there's
21:55
Speaker 1: been so many artists that we've lost over some bullshit,
22:00
Speaker 1: right and you know, obviously in Pop's case, it wasn't
22:03
Speaker 1: it was out here, it was you know, it was
22:05
Speaker 1: it wasn't over some shit from back home. But but
22:08
Speaker 1: is that something that you're very like conscientious of when
22:11
Speaker 1: it comes to just moving around because you never know,
22:14
Speaker 1: you know, you might run into somebody at Brooklyn chop
22:17
Speaker 1: house or something, or you know what I'm saying, Like
22:19
Speaker 1: my paranoya is really would keep me saying, like me
22:23
Speaker 1: always being on goal, always watching my surroundings. It put
22:28
Speaker 1: me in a place where I know how well, if
22:30
Speaker 1: I was lack a days ago with this, it's a
22:33
Speaker 1: possibility this could happen. But I'm always gonna be on it,
22:35
Speaker 1: so nothing could happen. And then again there's times that
22:38
Speaker 1: you was on it and something happened. So then that's
22:41
Speaker 1: where the surrounding hoop of niggas come in. You know,
22:45
Speaker 1: you're gang your brothers, they got to be the ones
22:47
Speaker 1: to step on niggas next before they even get the
22:50
Speaker 1: chance to get to a nigga like me. You know
22:51
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you know what I stand on.
22:53
Speaker 1: When you see me feel me, I'm not I'm not
22:55
Speaker 1: wish washy. The way you met me that first time
22:58
Speaker 1: is the way you're gonna meet me every time. So,
23:00
Speaker 1: like I said, people that know, like, oh, well for me, Yeah,
23:03
Speaker 1: this nigga he got it. But then let's check and
23:07
Speaker 1: see who else around him is on that ship. Make
23:10
Speaker 1: sure everything is you know, copesthetic or what they say
23:12
Speaker 1: it is. I know your family still in KNARSI. I
23:15
Speaker 1: know you're still in KNARSI. But at the same time,
23:17
Speaker 1: I see you in Miami Atlanta all the time. Have
23:19
Speaker 1: you considered leaving New York? Get the fuck out the way,
23:25
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Of course, of course it's in motion.
23:30
Speaker 1: Miami's got to be the player. I feel like Miami's
23:33
Speaker 1: just the women and the strip clubs and the no
23:35
Speaker 1: state tax and coronavirus never existed there apparently you know
23:40
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like fat just got to stay tuned
23:44
Speaker 1: the funt out well go right now, I'm still on
23:46
Speaker 1: the what's your favorite city? Miami? In Atlanta? Atlanta? Something
23:51
Speaker 1: is most like I say most of my biggest tracks
23:54
Speaker 1: with me. I love Atlanta. Man, what's are you a
23:57
Speaker 1: strip club guy? Like? Did you participate in strip clubs
24:00
Speaker 1: in both cities? Miami? Okay? What's what's the spot in Miami?
24:07
Speaker 1: The shoe like you is your favorite? Because there's there's
24:09
Speaker 1: the spot on what's the ship booby trap on the river.
24:12
Speaker 1: Just all I feel right now about that. There's two
24:14
Speaker 1: seas where you can get the fedsterea. Niggas need to
24:18
Speaker 1: show more love before I shout out any strip club
24:21
Speaker 1: word to my mother. Ok not wanting anybody strip club
24:25
Speaker 1: I show love that I ain't getting no shadows from
24:29
Speaker 1: those strip clubs. But you participate, you know you're dabbling
24:33
Speaker 1: in uh in some strip strip strippy activities, you know
24:36
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They're better than you know what. I
24:39
Speaker 1: can't stand even when the New York was open the
24:41
Speaker 1: strip clubs, it's all about bartenders, like the actual strippers
24:45
Speaker 1: is kind of whatever. But the bartenders got all the
24:48
Speaker 1: followers and ship and they ain't getting naked, Like why
24:52
Speaker 1: am I here a bunch of sixes that are the
24:55
Speaker 1: naked ones? All the tens are at the fucking bar, like,
24:58
Speaker 1: like what the hell is going on? Anyway? You know
25:01
Speaker 1: when you when you hoop, what position did you play?
25:03
Speaker 1: Point guard? Shooting guard? I was really a scorer, but
25:08
Speaker 1: I know how to you know, he was laying the
25:10
Speaker 1: floor like Brandon Jennings or some ship. Yo, son, you
25:19
Speaker 1: was here? What you say? Who you think I used
25:22
Speaker 1: to play? Like cuts in general? Who I used to? Yeah,
25:32
Speaker 1: Like who's gonna say Kobe? Kobe? I was just I
25:37
Speaker 1: was just an overall. Like I said, I commanded the floor.
25:41
Speaker 1: So it was like when it was time to get
25:43
Speaker 1: a bucket, I turned that on. Matter of fact, I'm
25:46
Speaker 1: lying by my twelfth grade. Ye, I was just I
25:48
Speaker 1: was scoring without I got this is my ball. But
25:53
Speaker 1: like I said, I also always had it to where
25:55
Speaker 1: I wanted everybody involved. That's what and that's me, Like,
25:59
Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy out basketball translate making me it's
26:02
Speaker 1: real life ship in any situation, I'm never thinking about myself.
26:07
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It's crazy because we interviewed Chris Brickley, who's
26:11
Speaker 1: out of New York. He's the trainer. He be training, Uh,
26:13
Speaker 1: you know James Harden and Kyrie, Jake Cole and Ship,
26:17
Speaker 1: but you know cold he trained Cole and Cole when
26:19
Speaker 1: did his his some pros went to Africa and play
26:23
Speaker 1: would like, once you're the rap ship is out of here?
26:25
Speaker 1: Would you ever reconsider chasing that dream again? Give niggas
26:28
Speaker 1: sixty on the oth day? But where would you give
26:31
Speaker 1: people sixty act? Because I mean, anyway tour in the
26:35
Speaker 1: country sound way you have to go across. You don't
26:37
Speaker 1: have to to put up that way, right, Yeah, put
26:40
Speaker 1: up sixty years, not in the Yeah. I ain't no
26:42
Speaker 1: league player cause I ain't no Hooper, but you feel me.
26:45
Speaker 1: I still I still go get a Yeah. So I
26:47
Speaker 1: saw the nets like warming up to your record and
26:49
Speaker 1: ship like that had to be crazy. Yeah, said to
26:52
Speaker 1: me that something like I watched Kyrie play, I watched
26:55
Speaker 1: James Harden and then he caught the yam to it.
26:58
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, my shit, give niggas, were you
27:01
Speaker 1: hesitant to do a sequel to Rolling and Controlling? Because
27:05
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I could go, Yeah, you could
27:09
Speaker 1: go the other way. That's why. Yeah, like me, I
27:11
Speaker 1: would have never do it that. Yeah, off rip because
27:13
Speaker 1: that to me is like, that's corny, that's pocket like
27:16
Speaker 1: did you feel me? But it was naturally made, so
27:19
Speaker 1: it was no denying it. Like, and he kept saying it.
27:21
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's picture me rolling? Said no, it's rolling.
27:26
Speaker 1: I said, We're gonna put it in parenthesies because I
27:28
Speaker 1: need niggas to know that's picture of me rolling through
27:31
Speaker 1: LA through California with some bad bitches and gang members.
27:34
Speaker 1: Is that what you shot this week? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
27:36
Speaker 1: well through sixty? How many how many videos you shoot?
27:39
Speaker 1: You have you shot in La? Just that one? Yeah,
27:42
Speaker 1: because like I came down when we came there one
27:45
Speaker 1: Monday and shot it on Wednesday yesterday. That's crazy, man.
27:50
Speaker 1: Were you like the other biggest alleged Rolling sixty in
27:54
Speaker 1: hip hop history is Nipsey Hustle, Right, you know what
27:56
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Nipsy And shout to my brother Jaystone too,
28:00
Speaker 1: Jason out there yourself. But were you did you come
28:06
Speaker 1: up like fucking with Nipsey's music, because I mean I
28:08
Speaker 1: was on the other side, you know, on the other side.
28:10
Speaker 1: I wasn't heavy on it, but I fucked with of course,
28:13
Speaker 1: like what he stood for. Yeah, so like the music naturally,
28:16
Speaker 1: and it correlated with who he is. So I just
28:19
Speaker 1: you had to fuck with the music, you know, but
28:22
Speaker 1: him as a person more or less is what I
28:23
Speaker 1: looked at, Like damn, like feel me? You you what
28:27
Speaker 1: you say you stand on every time without waver So
28:31
Speaker 1: I respect that. YO. Talk about the drill scene in
28:35
Speaker 1: New York, it's it's crazy right now, and you know,
28:39
Speaker 1: I feel like obviously Chicago started it, UK had their way,
28:44
Speaker 1: but New York's got it right now. Fully? Was that
28:48
Speaker 1: always like the type of like when you cause you
28:50
Speaker 1: know me growing up as a hip hop head, I
28:53
Speaker 1: think in New York, I think a fucking boom back
28:56
Speaker 1: lyrical rap ship or fifty G unit. You know what
28:59
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's more relatable the first one. I really
29:02
Speaker 1: that's me, Like I didn't. I was never so in
29:04
Speaker 1: tune with music, but it was always around me. I
29:08
Speaker 1: never had like a specific person I listened to on
29:11
Speaker 1: the regular, but you know, Soka my people's growing up, Kompa,
29:16
Speaker 1: that's the ship I heard. And then on the you
29:18
Speaker 1: know you got the R and B artist is sure
29:20
Speaker 1: so like me, Like I said, when it comes to
29:23
Speaker 1: drill music in New York, it has hints of what
29:28
Speaker 1: was in the past, but it's a whole new wave, right,
29:31
Speaker 1: you know, And it's and it is like I said, me,
29:33
Speaker 1: I grab a lot of shit old ship and put
29:35
Speaker 1: in my tracks. For me, I grab a lot of
29:37
Speaker 1: old shit put in my tracks just just you know,
29:39
Speaker 1: the idea of it is cool because you're still paying
29:42
Speaker 1: homage to what was. Who would you consider kind of
29:45
Speaker 1: like the godfather of the drill shit in New York.
29:48
Speaker 1: I think pop Smoke was the biggest, but I think
29:50
Speaker 1: he was the biggest. But I mean I think obviously
29:52
Speaker 1: obviously shout out to five. I think five is one
29:54
Speaker 1: of those guys I'll say. I'll say pop Pop he
29:58
Speaker 1: put it on the biggest stage one hundred percent. To me,
30:00
Speaker 1: it's like that's what a godfather is here, you know,
30:04
Speaker 1: biggas everybody else he had it was underneath you, but
30:08
Speaker 1: you was up there. Well, I think what he was
30:10
Speaker 1: able to do. Unfortunately, he didn't get to see the
30:13
Speaker 1: success of the sonic chances he took on his new
30:18
Speaker 1: album because he changed up his you know, he made
30:20
Speaker 1: some records that he made a lot of I mean,
30:22
Speaker 1: there was barely any drill records on that album, and unfortunately,
30:26
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't get to see that it paid off.
30:28
Speaker 1: But I heard a lot of your records that you're
30:30
Speaker 1: sitting on, and you got some of them ones, so
30:33
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, and and and another thing
30:36
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't really know is you
30:39
Speaker 1: know pop he started out, you know, he drell. He
30:42
Speaker 1: could feel me me too. But I was really more
30:45
Speaker 1: of a melodic from the jump, like I used to
30:48
Speaker 1: sing growing up, so before my voice got the rasp,
30:51
Speaker 1: and you know, in the basin it was it was
30:54
Speaker 1: a single. I could just sing my eyes what were
30:56
Speaker 1: you singing? Like church or church? I sing any with
31:00
Speaker 1: same way with when when whenever? I yeah, it's a
31:03
Speaker 1: possibility you gonna see me performing. You're gonna hear me
31:05
Speaker 1: singing something, rapping something, because that was just my nature.
31:09
Speaker 1: So for me, it was easier for me to do
31:12
Speaker 1: those lovey dovey tracks when it came time because that
31:17
Speaker 1: was kind of already your bad, already my bop, so
31:19
Speaker 1: it was nothing. Would you ever try to infuse some
31:22
Speaker 1: of the Caribbean ship you came up listening to in
31:25
Speaker 1: your household into your music. Even Yeah, certain parts about track,
31:29
Speaker 1: you could hear the accent on certain words. But I
31:31
Speaker 1: would make an old wait. I would say, what you need.
31:35
Speaker 1: What you need is the vibe of it is a
31:37
Speaker 1: Caribbean Yeah, ah, young Blue or that oh young Blue.
31:47
Speaker 1: It is what it is, the young Blue on the
31:50
Speaker 1: West Coast with it the Empire Avengers. They have you
31:53
Speaker 1: nodded on a song. And it is coming soon. And
31:56
Speaker 1: there's some Caribbean vibes on ladies. That's a crazy right
32:02
Speaker 1: there there. It is coming soon. I'm gonna see I'm
32:05
Speaker 1: supposed to see Blue this week, so I'm gonna ask
32:07
Speaker 1: him about it. I heard you. I got one. You
32:09
Speaker 1: know what, I'm outside of the outside of Blue. Who else?
32:12
Speaker 1: I mean? You know who else do you want to
32:14
Speaker 1: work with that you haven't worked with yet? Everybody? Like
32:19
Speaker 1: I said before, I funk with my son. Who shines
32:22
Speaker 1: this ship? Little baby? All of them? God, what about it?
32:26
Speaker 1: Give me a new a New york O G. If
32:28
Speaker 1: you could pick a New york O G any one
32:30
Speaker 1: of them to work with, who would it be? Oh no,
32:35
Speaker 1: because I'll say it gotta be jay Zuse, it gotta
32:40
Speaker 1: be Nikki. If you do the video at least, you know,
32:43
Speaker 1: you might could you know, catch man, maybe catch catch
32:47
Speaker 1: a nip slip or something on set. You know what
32:49
Speaker 1: I'm saying, sick, so maybe fast because he shouted out
32:53
Speaker 1: KNARSI before you know what I'm saying, Hey, Hope shout
32:55
Speaker 1: it out? You know what I mean? Yeah that man?
33:00
Speaker 1: Well listen, you're on your way, bro uh. And I
33:02
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are gonna be in the
33:04
Speaker 1: comments and and they're gonna get extremely h You're gonna
33:07
Speaker 1: get the pop smoke ship in the comments. But I
33:09
Speaker 1: want to make sure that we did not talk about that.
33:11
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that that's gonna be everything that's always
33:14
Speaker 1: loved of course, But you know, I just I think
33:17
Speaker 1: people got to understand who you are, you know what
33:20
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and what you do and what you bring
33:21
Speaker 1: to the table, and and you know, I think that
33:23
Speaker 1: there you got. Once these other records start coming out,
33:27
Speaker 1: people gonna get the picture. They're gonna get it, man.
33:29
Speaker 1: And plus you're playing you're paying homage to to to
33:31
Speaker 1: the homie as well, So it's all love man, Dusty Locine,
33:35
Speaker 1: perfect God