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IAAI Town Meeting: How Did We Get This Messy? (Season 4 E19 “Afterboom”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's you. I Am All in Town meeting with
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Speaker 2: Suzanne French and Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys,
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Speaker 2: welcome back to another episode of I Am All in
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Speaker 2: Town Meeting with myself, Tara and Suzanne. Hello.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 2: Before we get started, I was just showing Suzanne, I
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Speaker 2: got my Gilmore Ghoul's book. It's a coloring book from
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Speaker 2: Target Gilmore Girls being But it's so cute.
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Speaker 1: You said there's another one though, right, Suzanne.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw one on Instagram and I can't like.
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Speaker 3: I just was scrolling so I didn't stop to look
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Speaker 3: into it. But it had a picture of Luke pushing
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Speaker 3: Jests into the lake. But they're ghosts and it's completely adorable.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I don't know where that one was, but it must
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Speaker 3: have been a different book.
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Speaker 1: I'll have to find.
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Speaker 2: Actually do love an adult coloring book, I really do.
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Speaker 2: And I was flipping through this one and I love
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Speaker 2: that they have I Love You a thousands stinking corpse lilies.
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Speaker 2: And then they also have for the antique shop, you
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Speaker 2: haunt it. You bought it.
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Speaker 1: Very cute. There's just so many.
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Speaker 3: Clearly somebody knows the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me wonder. I'm like, I should have
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Speaker 2: come up with an idea like this.
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Speaker 1: I'm not that clever and I'm not either.
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Speaker 2: But now I'm on the hunt for the other coloring
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Speaker 2: book because I'm just collecting them. And then you had
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Speaker 2: mentioned that you ordered the Little People that came out
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Speaker 2: the little Fisher Price dolls.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not sure when when you're going to
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Speaker 3: be listening to this episode, but the Fisher Price Little
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Speaker 3: People dropped yesterday and so I ordered them last night
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Speaker 3: and they will be here tomorrow and I'm very excited.
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Speaker 2: Amazon exclusive exclusive for everyone listening.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they're not on the official Little People website because
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Speaker 3: that's where I went first, and they're not there. They're
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Speaker 3: only on Amazon.
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Speaker 1: They're really cute.
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Speaker 2: It's Laura Lei, Rory Luke, and Suki right, Emily Emily Emily.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have to have in any of these
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Speaker 3: various little you know, figurines that have come out, we've
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Speaker 3: never seen an Emily.
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Speaker 1: So I was very kind of love that it's an Emily. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was so excited to see all of that.
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Speaker 2: All right, So let's jump into this week's episode, Season four,
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Speaker 2: episode nineteen After Boom, which aired on April twenty seventh,
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Speaker 2: two thousand and four.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're heading into the end of season four,
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Speaker 3: like when all the good stuff starts happening.
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Speaker 1: I know, it's like ramping up.
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Speaker 2: I was saying to you, I feel like this one
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Speaker 2: and the next one just felt like one long continuation.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's like one big story. Yeah, we're heading into
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Speaker 3: the opening of the Dragonfly. We're heading into you know,
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Speaker 3: lug and Laureli. We're seeing Rory and Dean kind of
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Speaker 3: starting to circle around each other. So, yeah, there's just
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Speaker 3: a lot going on in these two episodes. You kind
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Speaker 3: of have to watch them together because it is just
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Speaker 3: like one big overarch.
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Speaker 1: Which spoiler alert we did.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The one thing I was like I wanted to talk
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Speaker 2: to you about, which is the first scene at the
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Speaker 2: post office? Yes, why is Laura Lai now telling Luke
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Speaker 2: that he needs to think about getting his divorce after
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Speaker 2: all that?
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Speaker 1: I like, we're going backwards here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, was it so much
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Speaker 3: about the divorce itself or was it just the fact
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Speaker 3: that he was doing it at the post office. I
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Speaker 3: think she was telling him, like, you know, go to
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Speaker 3: your lawyer's office or a friend's house or.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just seemed like she was more like,
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Speaker 2: are you sure you want to do this? It's a
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Speaker 2: serious decision. So yeah, I don't know if it was
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Speaker 2: more about the post office for it was Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I just thought it was weird. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: you told him to basically divorce her way before. Right
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Speaker 2: now you're going backwards. Also, who cares? He's just signing
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Speaker 2: it and sending it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's it's not like it's you know, a
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Speaker 3: big formal process where they have to see each other
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Speaker 3: or anything.
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Speaker 1: He also has like no connection at this point.
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Speaker 3: Right right, like he's pretty detached from it. I maybe
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Speaker 3: she's I don't know, maybe she's feeling a certain kind
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Speaker 3: of way and is trying to, you know, deny her
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Speaker 3: own feelings or something. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It's has the post office always been there? I feel
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Speaker 2: like it just showed up, you know.
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Speaker 3: I can't think of any other time that we saw it.
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Speaker 2: Because isn't that isn't that store where like the beauty's
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Speaker 2: store is?
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. So it's on the end right
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Speaker 3: next to the Secret Bar. It's between the bookstore and
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Speaker 3: the Secret Bar. So I think like when they had
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Speaker 3: holidays made here, that was where you went to pick
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Speaker 3: up your photos that the professional photographers were taking. Got
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Speaker 3: it that spot, but I can't think of anything.
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Speaker 2: It was like kind of empty because it was just
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Speaker 2: the photographer pick up right in it.
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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to think of when else we've seen
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Speaker 3: it in use in the show, and I can't think
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Speaker 3: of any other time that we've seen it. But I
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Speaker 3: think the beauty shop was more in the middle, like
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Speaker 3: by the pizza place. It's like more kind of centrally
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Speaker 3: located between the bookstore and doses.
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Speaker 1: It was like in that Okay, you know what I don't.
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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know if we're doing holidays. Maybe I'm
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Speaker 2: assuming if you keep my fingers crossed. But no word yet.
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Speaker 2: But I was thinking. I was like, there would be
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Speaker 2: it would be cool to have a post office and
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Speaker 2: then you can mail yourself something from stars Hollow.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that would be cool. That would be cool, like
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Speaker 3: if they could actually like postmarket as stars Hollow. Yet
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Speaker 3: I don't think the post office would go for that,
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Speaker 3: but it would be cool.
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Speaker 2: But Okay, So I was at the d twenty three
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Speaker 2: convention and I was walking around to all these little booths,
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Speaker 2: and there was one booth that had because Marceline is
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Speaker 2: where the city where Walt Disney's from, and you could
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Speaker 2: actually there's a museum there and stuff. But what they
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Speaker 2: did at D twenty three was you can actually send
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Speaker 2: yourself like a postcard, and the stamp was Walt Disney
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Speaker 2: like Marceline, and so it made me think, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I wonder if they could make who knows, I have
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Speaker 2: to talk to you about this, Like they should make
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Speaker 2: a star's hollow stamp.
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Speaker 3: That's a good idea.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then I bought the stamp because it was like
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Speaker 2: five dollars and then it's like a me commorative one.
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Speaker 1: And then there was a pin of the stamp, so
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Speaker 1: I have the pin too.
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Speaker 3: Oh cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was just maybe thinking, I'm like, it
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Speaker 2: would be cute because I watched this episode as soon
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Speaker 2: as I got home from it, and I was like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, like they should keep the post office
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Speaker 2: at Holidays made here and this stamp stuff, Well, you
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Speaker 2: could just buy a stamp of that rate and ship it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's so clever though.
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Speaker 2: That sounds fine, right, I would do that anyway, will
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Speaker 2: jump back into the storyline though. Yeah, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you want to have any if you had anything
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Speaker 2: else to say about the beginning.
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Speaker 3: No, I just I that's one of my favorite openings though,
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Speaker 3: because it's just so funny, like their banter back and
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Speaker 3: forth about you know, you're a lot of work, like
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Speaker 3: it's just.
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Speaker 1: So over it. He's like, please let me just do
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Speaker 1: this thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know Kirk in the post office.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I think I have some balls.
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Speaker 2: I like that when he said balls the camera was
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Speaker 2: on Luke. Yeah, that was the best part.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a good scene. It was
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Speaker 3: a very good scene.
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Speaker 2: I also just love that, like they have the theme stamps.
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Speaker 2: It just made them by day.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the other one?
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Speaker 2: It was Lucille balls and it was Bewitched. Bewitched there
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Speaker 2: we go. Yeah, yeah, I would collect those. I know.
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Speaker 3: I would totally get this. I actually used to collect.
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Speaker 1: Stamps back and mom did as a kid. Yeah, she
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Speaker 1: has it somewhere about an or.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was fun. I did it
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Speaker 3: for a long time, not recently, but yeah. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: so this okay, And I want to know we've got
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Speaker 3: Jackie with us. I want to know Jackie caught this.
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Speaker 3: So there was a scene at Lane's where they're talking
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Speaker 3: about the gig and they're talking about the flyer and
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Speaker 3: Brian makes a comment about eating cheesecake off of the floor.
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Speaker 3: I caught that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was odd. So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: If that was intended to be a friend's reference or
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Speaker 3: if it was just a coincidence. But I looked up
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Speaker 3: the date, and so if you if you didn't watch Friends,
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Speaker 3: there's an episode where Rachel and Chandler are eating cheesecake
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Speaker 3: off of the floor in the hallway between their apartments,
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Speaker 3: and that episode aired before this. It was January of
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Speaker 3: two thousand and one.
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Speaker 2: So I always wonder, like what, I didn't know it
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Speaker 2: was a friend reference.
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Speaker 3: I thought I was that intentional or was I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We'll never know, I guess, but it made me laugh.
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Speaker 1: Jackie didn't make you think of friends right away?
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Speaker 4: Of course, of course it does. But a lot of
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Speaker 4: things in life make me think of you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've watched Friends, but like I think, I
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Speaker 2: watched the whole thing through one, so I wouldn't know.
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Speaker 2: I just thought it was odd. I just thought it
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Speaker 2: was like an odd thing, he said. I didn't realize.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was, which also is making me think, like,
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Speaker 3: were they intentionally doing that? Like, you know, because we've
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Speaker 3: talked a lot about how they had happened to wear
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Speaker 3: some of the same outfits and things like that, So
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Speaker 3: I I don't know.
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Speaker 4: And they're like in on the same lot and shooting
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Speaker 4: next to each other, you know, so yeah, same universe maybe.
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Speaker 4: But yes, I did catch that. I didn't catch the
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Speaker 4: timing of everything. I didn't think. Oh, let me look
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Speaker 4: back to this. Timing so very good.
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Speaker 2: There's definitely a Friends fan on that on that writing team,
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Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean we all were Friends fans at the time.
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Speaker 1: When did Friends end two thousand and four?
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Speaker 3: Two thousand and four? Yeah, because it started in ninety
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Speaker 3: four and it ran for ten.
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Speaker 2: Seasons, so it ended because in Gilmore we're in two
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Speaker 2: thousand and four, so it ended this year.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my gosh, it ended too, like around May of
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Speaker 4: two thousand and four.
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Speaker 1: Before that, oh, there you go. What network was Friends?
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Speaker 3: NBC Thursdays at eight, That's where I was.
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Speaker 4: It was a big Thursday prime time show. I didn't
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Speaker 4: watch when it aired a little bit, but I watched
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Speaker 4: afterwards and then that's when.
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Speaker 2: The guys are making me want to watch Friends from
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Speaker 2: the beginning because I actually should know the references. I
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Speaker 2: also do a lot that they are shorts because it's.
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Speaker 1: Easy to binge.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, two minutes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a good sitcom, pinch.
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Speaker 3: Well and Friends. So when Gilmore Girls was in its
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Speaker 3: first season, it aired against Friends. It aired Thursdays at
10:32
Speaker 3: eight o'clock. And so Lauren talked about in one of
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Speaker 3: her books about how when they went to the upfronts
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Speaker 3: and she was she was they were like watching all
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Speaker 3: these shows and she's like, okay, well, you know, because
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Speaker 3: they just had they had shot their pilot. She's like, okay,
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Speaker 3: well that was fun. But she like thought they would
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Speaker 3: be like she would have to move on to something
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Speaker 3: else because she didn't think that it was gonna do
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Speaker 3: well against Friends. But here we are, twenty five years later, still.
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Speaker 1: Talking about their iconic show.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's talk about Paris and Asher and the
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Speaker 3: book reading.
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Speaker 1: I hate the storyline it really, you know.
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Speaker 3: I did not. I even said it to my husband
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Speaker 3: because he watched this episode with me and I said,
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Speaker 3: you know, all of those college age girls are all
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Speaker 3: like Gaga over ash Or Fleming like, no, that was
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Speaker 3: so I'm realistic. Yeah, they wouldn't have all been.
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Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, if he was like a young
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Speaker 2: hot teacher, I totally believe it exactly.
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Speaker 3: Not No, I that was so unbelievable that they're just
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Speaker 3: all like hovering over him, And the mc lady.
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Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, yeah, I like can't stand the storyline
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Speaker 2: at all, Like I'm just waiting for it to end.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he seems like, you know, he's probably a
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Speaker 3: nice enough guy, but he's not like sexy or romantic.
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Speaker 1: Like I understand that he's intelligent, Like I get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's your what you're attractive to in him,
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Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't think like all the girls
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Speaker 2: would be attracted to the same.
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Speaker 1: Right, eh.
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Speaker 2: Like it was just it would have been more believable.
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Speaker 2: And maybe they had to do it because it's Richard's
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Speaker 2: friend and that's where the connection comes.
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Speaker 1: But like, if you just made it like a young
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Speaker 1: hat professor.
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Speaker 2: Right, this could have gone a totally different direction, which
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Speaker 2: would have been interesting.
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Speaker 3: Well, And it was weird to me that they like
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Speaker 3: the Richard connection happened like at the very beginning, but
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Speaker 3: then they never really utilized that anywhere else, like they
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Speaker 3: never it never played into a storyline, like they mentioned
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Speaker 3: it once when she turned out to be the professor,
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Speaker 3: when he turned out to be the professor in her class,
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Speaker 3: he's like, we have somebody in common, Oh, your grandfather,
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Speaker 3: But after that I was never mentioned again, Like they
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Speaker 3: could have just had Paris be having an affair with
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Speaker 3: a professor and it didn't have to be Richard's friend
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Speaker 3: like that. They made a point to connect them in
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Speaker 3: that way in the beginning, but then never referred back
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Speaker 3: to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would have.
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Speaker 2: Also, I think Rory's reaction to it would have been
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Speaker 2: different if if it wasn't hurt well a little bit,
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Speaker 2: because right now she's thinking it's her grandfather's friend. I
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Speaker 2: think that's part of it. That's like one side. The
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Speaker 2: other side is that it's just a weird situation and
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Speaker 2: it's an old man. Yeah, I mean, and then we'll
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Speaker 2: get into it next time. But the next episode is
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Speaker 2: even more like Lord, like, I can't with that storyline.
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Speaker 1: I can't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm not. I wasn't super thrilled with.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But so we also we had some good drama
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Speaker 3: in this episode, so Lurla gets the phone call or actually, no,
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Speaker 3: he comes to the Dragonfly. Jason comes to the Dragonfly
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Speaker 3: and tells Laurai that, hey, your dad just well that
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Speaker 3: that Richard took the business. Yes, yeah, yeah, he's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, all my clients have deserted me, and you
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Speaker 3: know the secretaries are all uncomfortable, and yeah, he left
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Speaker 3: me the business but took the clients, so what else
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Speaker 3: is life?
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Speaker 2: Which honestly, I was kind of like, kind of like
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Speaker 2: a good business move because you still have the business,
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Speaker 2: but you don't have my because.
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Speaker 1: The clients did come because of Richard.
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Speaker 3: Well, so Jason said that Richard even not.
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Speaker 1: All of them, oh some of them were his.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jason brought some of them with him and
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Speaker 3: then brought in more after they started. And so Jason
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Speaker 3: tells Laurai that Richard even took those clients. So he really, really,
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Speaker 3: he really screwed him because you know, he left him
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Speaker 3: with like the name or whatever, but he has he
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Speaker 3: has no clients, so he has to literally start for scratch,
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Speaker 3: which yeah, I mean was a smart move on Richard's part,
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Speaker 3: but I mean kind of sucky overall. I mean, he
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Speaker 3: really kind of stabbed Jason, Like, Jason was going to
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Speaker 3: try to fix the whole thing with his family, and
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Speaker 3: Richard didn't even give him a chance to because he
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Speaker 3: immediately caved to Floyd and you know, went went back
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Speaker 3: to him.
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Speaker 2: So he honestly didn't even second guess it either. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: was like, all right, we're going back, We're gonna take
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Speaker 2: all the lions, and this.
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Speaker 3: Is right right. And then when laurel I then goes
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Speaker 3: to their the Gilmore house and confronts him about it,
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Speaker 3: and you know, he explained it to her. He's like, well,
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Speaker 3: you know, Floyd was gonna take everything, like they didn't
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Speaker 3: have They couldn't spend a lot of money fighting this
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Speaker 3: lawsuit because that would have taken everything. And he had
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Speaker 3: put up you know, his pension, his collateral in the
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Speaker 3: house and all that, Like he had a lot to lose.
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Speaker 3: So I get it, because you know, he's getting on
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Speaker 3: later in life and he can't just pick up and
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Speaker 3: start all over again at his age like Jason could
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Speaker 3: his age, So I kind of I kind of get it,
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Speaker 3: but he was kind of asked to Laurlai about it.
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Speaker 3: You know, she's obviously caught in the middle now between
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Speaker 3: these two and he was not sympathetic to that at all.
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Speaker 3: He's like, all you care about is your boyfriend, and
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Speaker 3: I didn't expect anything else from you like that. That
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Speaker 3: was kind of a low blow.
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Speaker 2: I thought, Yeah, yeah, I don't mind the storyline, but
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Speaker 2: I'm also just like, how do we get this messy?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I love the storyline, like I like the drama.
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Speaker 1: I like the drama, but I'm like, it's so like
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Speaker 1: it's so like intertwined, like.
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Speaker 3: Right, and you're like, what's gonna happen next? Which, yeah,
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Speaker 3: there isn't a lot of like cliffhangers in this show,
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Speaker 3: so this part is exciting because you're like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 3: who's gonna stab who in the back?
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Speaker 2: But I'm just like, how do we Because it's not
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Speaker 2: just the business side, it's then the relationship side too,
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Speaker 2: So you're kind of like, Okay, it's a lot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. So I don't know and his viewers,
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Speaker 3: we can see everybody's perspective, like we understand why Laurel
17:05
Speaker 3: I didn't tell her parents about the relationship, and but
17:08
Speaker 3: then we also see it from her parents' side as well.
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Speaker 3: They feel like because both Lorelin and Jason lied to them,
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Speaker 3: So they're getting lied to at the relationship level and
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Speaker 3: also at the business level.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, they feel betrayed basically, yeah, exactly exactly do
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Speaker 2: we do we find out? Or do as it mention,
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Speaker 2: I just forgot that like how long Richard and Emily
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Speaker 2: were friends with his parents, Like, like, is that like
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Speaker 2: a is that like a deep rooted relationship or I
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Speaker 2: don't remember.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it is because they talk about how
17:46
Speaker 3: like Richard gilts his career with that company, right, But.
17:50
Speaker 1: Then Laurelin and they know each other as kids.
17:54
Speaker 3: They did from like summer camp.
17:57
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, okay, so it was like more in passing,
17:59
Speaker 2: not like their family friends coming over all the time.
18:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm now I may be mixing
18:08
Speaker 3: people up, but I feel like Emily said something about
18:11
Speaker 3: them coming to their Christmas parties, and Laurela I didn't
18:15
Speaker 3: remember who they were, And.
18:16
Speaker 2: Then I feel like Emily's Christmas parties are like these
18:19
Speaker 2: giant parties.
18:19
Speaker 1: They just invite everyone they know.
18:21
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I may be remembering somebody else, but yeah,
18:26
Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean so I think they definitely at
18:29
Speaker 3: least implied that the two families have known each other
18:32
Speaker 3: for a long time.
18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
18:36
Speaker 2: We also have the storyline of the exchange students, yes,
18:41
Speaker 2: which I honestly love this storyline.
18:44
Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah. First all that girl is so good.
18:48
Speaker 1: The actress is so good.
18:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I don't think anyone else could play that
18:54
Speaker 2: part so well because she's this quirky, talks really fast.
18:59
Speaker 3: She told literally matched Lane like word for word, which yes,
19:03
Speaker 3: I thought was great.
19:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I really liked the storyline. But then
19:07
Speaker 2: it kind of came full circle and was kind of
19:09
Speaker 2: heart breaking or I don't know who it was heartbreaking
19:11
Speaker 2: or like touching when Lane goes and kiss her mom
19:14
Speaker 2: on the forehead in the middle of the night, Like
19:16
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, she's just realizing that, like
19:20
Speaker 2: her mom loves her. Yes, And I don't think that
19:24
Speaker 2: like being strict was to push her away in any sense.
19:29
Speaker 2: It was more to protect her. And I think Lane's
19:31
Speaker 2: realizing that like for the first time.
19:34
Speaker 3: Right right. And this was even though this was like
19:36
Speaker 3: a secondary storyline, this was an important episode for Lane
19:40
Speaker 3: because we see her in two different scenarios. So there's
19:46
Speaker 3: the situation she sees this foreign exchange student come and
19:49
Speaker 3: basically replace her in her life, like she sneaks in
19:53
Speaker 3: the house at night and sees this girl literally in
19:56
Speaker 3: her bed, like she's literally been replaced. But then we
20:01
Speaker 3: also have where the band is at their gig and
20:06
Speaker 3: she's like really jazzed up about how well they had performed,
20:10
Speaker 3: and then all the other bandmates break off and go
20:13
Speaker 3: off with other people and she's literally just sitting there
20:16
Speaker 3: and she gets back behind her drums and she's just
20:18
Speaker 3: like kind of casually like you know, playing with the
20:20
Speaker 3: symbol or whatever. So she's she's lonely, like she's been
20:24
Speaker 3: replaced in her home life, and her bandmates don't seem
20:28
Speaker 3: to need her because they've got their own lives.
20:32
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, it was really like.
20:34
Speaker 3: Kind of an emotional turning point.
20:36
Speaker 2: And those guys are not like taking care of Lane right,
20:40
Speaker 2: Like she's on her own one hundred percent. Like yes,
20:42
Speaker 2: they're in her life, but like like you said, they
20:45
Speaker 2: have their own lives. They're also boys who like are
20:47
Speaker 2: rusher and then you know there's oh my god, Gil
20:52
Speaker 2: who like completely has its own life. So like, yeah,
20:55
Speaker 2: I mean she went from like having everything and being
20:59
Speaker 2: overly pt text basically having nothing so to say, yeah,
21:04
Speaker 2: speak exactly.
21:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, she went from like her solid little cocoon starts
21:10
Speaker 3: all the life and now she's like kind of branched out.
21:14
Speaker 3: But now she feels like, like you said, like she
21:16
Speaker 3: doesn't have anything. She doesn't have her family anymore, and
21:20
Speaker 3: she doesn't have her friends except like even Rory's gone,
21:23
Speaker 3: you know, and so you know, she she doesn't really
21:28
Speaker 3: have what she wants. And so I don't know, it's
21:32
Speaker 3: a it's a good it's a good episode for like. Yeah,
21:45
Speaker 3: So circling back to the Richard and Emily story, so
21:49
Speaker 3: the Friday night dinner I started the same Wednday night dinner.
21:52
Speaker 3: I don't know where the Friday night dinner where they're
21:56
Speaker 3: clearly not expecting them to I guess they were a
21:59
Speaker 3: little bit early because traffic wasn't bad. But anyways, that
22:04
Speaker 3: scene I thought was really funny, like they're all so
22:07
Speaker 3: off guard and like they were out, like she didn't
22:10
Speaker 3: even answer loralized question. But then at the end, so
22:15
Speaker 3: this is where we find out that Emily is not
22:17
Speaker 3: sleeping there.
22:18
Speaker 2: I love they got the dessert take home dessert basically chocolate.
22:22
Speaker 1: I love that.
22:23
Speaker 3: I don't know why, laugh, Yeah, exactly, here's your bag.
22:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was all ready to go.
22:28
Speaker 3: But they didn't even have like a centerpiece on the table.
22:30
Speaker 3: They didn't have the candles.
22:31
Speaker 2: It was it was just like, here's your plate and
22:34
Speaker 2: fork and some food on top.
22:35
Speaker 1: There you go, right.
22:37
Speaker 3: And and yeah, so we find out that Emily isn't
22:41
Speaker 3: sleeping there. Yeah, so and then that leads into then
22:46
Speaker 3: the coffee shop scene with Jason where she says, yeah,
22:51
Speaker 3: I called around and she's staying at the Grafton Hotel
22:54
Speaker 3: in room four twenty one. And then that's when Jason
23:01
Speaker 3: drops the bomb that he's suing Richard. So yes, yeah,
23:05
Speaker 3: so it all kind of tied together in the end,
23:07
Speaker 3: all the drama.
23:07
Speaker 2: But yeah, just honestly, okay, what the world would you
23:13
Speaker 2: do if your boyfriend sued your dad?
23:17
Speaker 3: You know? That's yeah, I mean I.
23:19
Speaker 1: Think bloaded question, but.
23:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think more I made the only choice that
23:24
Speaker 3: she could make. Like, I don't know, they both did
23:28
Speaker 3: bad things, Like Richard did a bad thing. Now Jason's
23:31
Speaker 3: doing a bad thing. So are you you have to
23:33
Speaker 3: pick which bad thing you're gonna side with? But I
23:38
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, even even if your parents
23:41
Speaker 3: are Richard and Emily, I feel like you have to
23:43
Speaker 3: side with your family.
23:45
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think that at the
23:47
Speaker 2: end of the day, I would stick with my family
23:50
Speaker 2: because also I think it sucks that Jason's like not
23:55
Speaker 2: taking that part into consideration, that like, yes, Richard is
23:59
Speaker 2: your business partner, but it's your girlfriend's father, so like
24:03
Speaker 2: I would have I mean not like Richard would like
24:06
Speaker 2: come to terms like maybe saidn't have a conversation with
24:09
Speaker 2: him and like, yeah, we're just part ways and just like, well,
24:13
Speaker 2: that's hard also because then he he does mention at
24:15
Speaker 2: some point he's losing a crap ton of money because
24:18
Speaker 2: of this. So like, I still think it's wrong. I
24:23
Speaker 2: still think it's one hundred percent wrong and I wouldn't
24:25
Speaker 2: do it. But I also do I think Jason's just
24:27
Speaker 2: thinking business, business, business and not thinking about relationship because
24:31
Speaker 2: when you see someone, it's not gonna end well.
24:35
Speaker 3: Right, and it put it puts Larela in a terrible position. Yeah,
24:38
Speaker 3: and she's i mean, her parents not going to continue
24:44
Speaker 3: with trying to maintain both relationships, like that's going to
24:46
Speaker 3: be possible. He had to have known she would have
24:49
Speaker 3: to pick one.
24:50
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I never was a fan of him anyway.
24:55
Speaker 3: So and it's not like I mean, yeah, they're they're
25:01
Speaker 3: in a relationship, but it's not like they've committed to
25:06
Speaker 3: each other in a long term kind of way, you
25:10
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like if they were engaged or
25:12
Speaker 3: if they were married.
25:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a full coming that would be even
25:16
Speaker 2: more Also, at this point, how long they've been dating, Like,
25:19
Speaker 2: how long did they say?
25:20
Speaker 3: They said five months? Yeah, yeah, so I mean it's
25:23
Speaker 3: still on the capital end at this point.
25:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still like it's might be more serious, but
25:29
Speaker 2: it's not like it's been like years of a relationship.
25:31
Speaker 3: Right, exactly exactly. It's still like relatively walk away able
25:37
Speaker 3: walk away.
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:40
Speaker 3: But one one thing, So I actually didn't have any
25:45
Speaker 3: like callouts for.
25:46
Speaker 1: Any like yeah, I didn't see anything.
25:47
Speaker 3: The only thing I saw is that very very last
25:52
Speaker 3: scene in the coffee shop they had they spilled machiato.
25:54
Speaker 1: Wrong on the on board.
25:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, they spelled it with one sea and to Tea's,
26:01
Speaker 3: but it should be two seas.
26:02
Speaker 1: Oh see two seas?
26:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, huh, that's funny. That's a very specific call out. Yeah,
26:09
Speaker 2: is it could it be spelled two ways or no?
26:10
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer I'm asking, I don't.
26:13
Speaker 3: I mean in Italian, it wouldn't be.
26:15
Speaker 1: Spelled okay because just something they're like different spelling.
26:18
Speaker 3: Yeah huh, all right, well yeah, but lots of lots
26:22
Speaker 3: of good drama going on. Exciting episode.
26:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good one.
26:27
Speaker 2: It was I mean again, like you said, we're ramping
26:29
Speaker 2: up to the end of the season. Yeah, all right,
26:31
Speaker 2: so next week we're gonna be talking about season four,
26:33
Speaker 2: episode twenty Luke Can See Her Face, which aired May fourth,
26:38
Speaker 2: two thousand and four. May the fourth be Yeah, that's right,
26:42
Speaker 2: May the fourth be way. I was like wait, thnging
26:44
Speaker 2: it out loud. I was like, we'll see next week.
26:46
Speaker 3: Meeting adjourned.
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