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9-29-26 Hour 1 - You can win with "good enough"/Nuggets Media Day/Steph & LeBron media day faux pas · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 3: You know, unfortunately, I missed yesterday's show. I was not
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  Speaker 3: even able to tune in, courtesy of the Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 3: go to WilhiteWins.com. That's WilhiteWins.com. But even though I missed
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  Speaker 3: the show, I'm pretty sure I could tell you exactly
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  Speaker 3: how it went down. So I'm going to take a
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  Speaker 3: guess here. Brett probably started the show by bellyaching about
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  Speaker 3: how the Broncos offense was absolute ass for about three
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  Speaker 3: quarters against the Rams, but the offense turned it on
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  Speaker 3: when they need to and mounted another thrilling comeback in
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  Speaker 3: the face of defeat. Bo Nix did what Bo Nix does,
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  Speaker 3: but ultimately the wind still came down. to the Broncos defense,
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  Speaker 3: bailing them out, making plays in the clutch, and let's
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  Speaker 3: be real, on that last touchdown drive, they got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of favorable calls from the officials, maybe a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of home cooking, courtesy of good old Roger Goodell,
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  Speaker 3: and so Brett was offering up his criticisms of the game,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody got mad at him, because shut up, nerd,
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  Speaker 3: how you win doesn't matter. The point is, they beat
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl favorites in primetime, another win for the Broncos,
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  Speaker 3: Broncos country, let's ride, shut up, Brett. All the texters
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  Speaker 3: were mad at him all morning long for actually having
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  Speaker 3: intellectual thoughts and legitimate criticisms about some of the shortcomings
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  Speaker 3: of this team.
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  Speaker 2: Is that about it?
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  Speaker 3: Did I miss anything? Basically, Brett, I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: they're paying you right now, but it's probably too much
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  Speaker 3: because every Monday morning you just get to come in
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  Speaker 3: and do the same exact show that you've been doing
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  Speaker 3: for at least a year, maybe longer.
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  Speaker 4: Nelly would be wrong on that.
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  Speaker 5: It would be a very smart guess, but I did
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  Speaker 5: not do that yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I give the Broncos flowers.
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  Speaker 2: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 4: It's a good football team. Well, yeah, but you also, again,
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  Speaker 4: after the show, Vic. No, I just said I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: I can't do it anymore. Okay. They've beaten me into submission.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how this works because I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how algorithms work. Vic, say the word algorithm.
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  Speaker 2: Algorithm.
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  Speaker 4: Can you say Adobe?
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  Speaker 2: Algorhythm. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 5: What did you think that word was again? Why do
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  Speaker 5: you look like you're sleeping right now, by the way?
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  Speaker 5: Your eyes aren't even open.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, um.
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  Speaker 4: He just, dude, he just smoked like a huge spleef
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  Speaker 4: before the show began. I'm sure he did. He's like, hey, man. Algorhythms, man.
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  Speaker 4: You're the only one on the planet that still calls
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  Speaker 4: it a spleef, by the way. Oh, sorry. He thought
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  Speaker 4: it was analog. Analog.
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  Speaker 2: Analog, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Analog. So I get home, and I was looking up
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  Speaker 4: something on the old Twitter machine, and what do I see?
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  Speaker 4: What pops up? No, hang on, hang on.
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  Speaker 5: Before you mention this, Mosher, before you mention this, I
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  Speaker 5: got to say, bleep you, Steve Nelson. I didn't know this.
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  Speaker 5: I said, Steve, where were you? And he goes, I
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  Speaker 5: was in Vegas over the weekend. I just said, oh,
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  Speaker 5: that's a fun little trip. Did you get engaged?
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  Speaker 2: I did, yes. Wow. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 4: I saw it.
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  Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you tell anybody that you spend... four hours
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  Speaker 5: a day.
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  Speaker 3: With about this. I did forget to put it in
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  Speaker 3: the group chat. I was telling a lot of people yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I apologize, boys.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I saw it. I didn't want to break the
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  Speaker 4: news until Nelly got back so we could give it
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  Speaker 4: to him.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's classic dude brain. But I told the family.
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  Speaker 3: I told a lot of people. I did forget to
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  Speaker 3: put it in our show group chat. So I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: That's my bad.
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  Speaker 4: I asked him earlier, I go, where were you? He goes,
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  Speaker 4: I was in Vegas. And that was the end of
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  Speaker 4: the conversation. I was like, wait, what? Did you win
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  Speaker 4: some money?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was okay.
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  Speaker 4: Give it up for our boy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Way to go.
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  Speaker 5: You found somebody that is willing to, in.
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  Speaker 4: Theory, stay with you forever. Way to go, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: Proud of you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: In theory.
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  Speaker 2: In theory.
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  Speaker 4: Everything's in theory. I reckon it is. But you know what?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she's just into flutes. That's cool. No, she's into sax. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: She's into sax? Sax. Saxophone. She's a lovely woman, Nelly.
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  Speaker 4: You're a lucky dude. Okay, so listen. Congrats, Nelly.
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  Speaker 5: We have a lot to get to today. It was
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  Speaker 5: media day for the Nuggets yesterday. The MLB playoffs start today.
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  Speaker 5: There was a game in the NFL last night, and
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  Speaker 5: there's more Broncos to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: But I did see the Jake Gyllenhaal meme. It popped
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  Speaker 4: up on my feed. It's perfect. It's an overhead look.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was like down. I was trying to
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  Speaker 4: picture it in my head because I'd never seen the movie.
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  Speaker 4: And it's overhead, and he's bashing this keyboard on the thing.
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  Speaker 4: So you did actually give a little grief to old
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix. Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching Monday Night Football, and I'm watching, I guess,
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  Speaker 5: the best play caller in the world in Chicago. He
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  Speaker 5: takes Case Keenum from off the street, who is the
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  Speaker 5: backup to the backup. And they put up 27 points
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  Speaker 5: on Philadelphia. They beat them by 20. And here's what
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  Speaker 5: I thought to myself. Number one, how does Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 5: do that? How does he do that? Like we're talking about,
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  Speaker 5: can you get off to a hot start with Bo Nix, please?
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, what's that? Who's my quarterback today? Hey, Skeenum. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we'll put up some points in the first half. No problem.
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  Speaker 4: We got it. No issue at all.
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  Speaker 5: Secondly, I'm watching the Eagles play. And here's my question.
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  Speaker 5: I know you're not allowed to have an original thought
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  Speaker 5: about somebody who has a Super Bowl ring and plays
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  Speaker 5: the position of quarterback. That you just have to bow
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  Speaker 5: to the altar of Super Bowl winning quarterback no matter
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  Speaker 5: what this guy's amazing and any criticisms you have, you're
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  Speaker 5: wrong because he's won a title before. Jalen Hurts is
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  Speaker 5: on like his fifth coordinator in Philadelphia. And at what
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  Speaker 5: point do you look at that and be like, maybe
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  Speaker 5: he's just not that good. You ever think about that?
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  Speaker 5: Like maybe Jalen Hurts just isn't that good. And that's
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  Speaker 5: why the Eagles offense constantly has trouble.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think when you've got a good enough team
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  Speaker 4: around him, he's good enough. Which is fine. Which is fine.
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  Speaker 5: Plenty of quarterbacks are like that. I think Bo Nix
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  Speaker 5: might be like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a great, you just said something there. Good enough.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There are really good quarterbacks and then there are good
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  Speaker 2: enough quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: He's one of them. Joe Flacco was good enough. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He was good enough for that team. Trent Dilfer was
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  Speaker 4: good enough.
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  Speaker 5: Trent Dilfer was good enough. Brad Johnson was good enough.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Hostetler was good enough. Nick Foles was good enough. Like,
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  Speaker 4: there's plenty of examples.
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  Speaker 2: But, but, it's just.
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  Speaker 4: But typically, it's the good that gets it done.
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  Speaker 2: Typically, it's the good good.
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  Speaker 4: Typically. Well, here's what's funny, Moshe. Or the great great.
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  Speaker 4: Or the, whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 5: Josh Allen is seen by a lot of people as
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  Speaker 5: the best quarterback in the league. And, The response that
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  Speaker 5: you get when you bring up Josh Allen is, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: what's he ever won?
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  Speaker 4: It's like, okay, what game do you want to play here?
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  Speaker 4: What do you want to do?
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  Speaker 5: And it's so frustrating to me, but I just find
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  Speaker 5: it amazing on two fronts. So last night, Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 5: is seen as one of the best quarterbacks in the
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  Speaker 5: league because Jalen Hurts has a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: And that's fine, if that's the way you want to
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  Speaker 4: do the math.
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  Speaker 5: On the other side, Ben Johnson took a guy from
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  Speaker 5: off the street who was the backup.
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  Speaker 2: To the backup.
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  Speaker 4: He's actually, I think Keenum's been there for, I think
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  Speaker 4: he's been there for a couple, three years, but just
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  Speaker 4: as a backup to the backup.
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  Speaker 5: And they scored 27 points.
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  Speaker 7: Case Keenum.
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  Speaker 4: Keenum, I'm sorry. Is that not incredible? It's amazing, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's incredible because they made it look easy. Not only,
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  Speaker 2: he made it look easy. Case Keenum made it look
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  Speaker 2: like he's been running that team for years.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 4: It's like he and Kalief Raymond... It's almost like they
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  Speaker 4: went behind everybody's back and they were thrown on the
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  Speaker 4: side for the last several months. It's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Case Keenum hasn't attempted a pass in the NFL since 2023.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And he walks in and he throws up a game.
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  Speaker 5: His numbers, 24 of 34 for 247, two touchdowns, no picks,
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  Speaker 5: no sacks.
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  Speaker 4: Three touchdowns. He had two touchdowns last night. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: two touchdowns, right? I'm sorry. You're right. And I'm just...
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  Speaker 4: But he also ran one in. Correct, correct.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm just thinking, you know, on both sides of
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  Speaker 5: that game, you know, Philadelphia, we think Philly's pretty good, right?
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  Speaker 4: Theoretically, they're pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: Philly needed to stop a two-point conversion from Washington to
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  Speaker 5: win in week one. They had to score a touchdown
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  Speaker 5: with nine seconds left in week two against Tennessee to
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  Speaker 5: win that game.
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  Speaker 2: Last week.
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  Speaker 5: And then they get bounced by 20 points against Case Keenum.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what to do with them either. And
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  Speaker 5: this is, I guess what I'm saying is, this is
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  Speaker 5: all a credit to the Broncos, and we can bellyache,
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  Speaker 5: and I will continue to do it, trust me, just
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  Speaker 5: because I don't know any other way to do my job.
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  Speaker 5: I will continue to bellyache about how things look for
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos, especially early in games. But bottom line is,
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  Speaker 5: when you have a team that just finds a way
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  Speaker 5: to win, it's a hell of a quality. Like, it's
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  Speaker 5: the same thing that I'm watching last night with Chicago.
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  Speaker 5: Since Ben Johnson has gotten there, that team finds.
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  Speaker 4: A way to win, man. By hook or by crook,
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  Speaker 4: they find a way.
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  Speaker 2: It's impressive. What does that make you feel about Caleb
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  Speaker 2: now that you see Case Keenum enter the fray after
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  Speaker 2: three years of doing nothing and just wheel around like
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  Speaker 2: he's an all-pro again?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Does it change your tune? about the starting quarterback in Chicago?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think so because, you know, again, Vic,
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  Speaker 5: in theory, Nelly just got engaged. If this thing works
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  Speaker 5: with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, they're going to be
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  Speaker 5: engaged for the next 15 years.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: In theory.
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  Speaker 5: Like, if he works and Caleb works, nobody's going anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: They'll continue to win, be a fun offense, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: No, I guess what I'm saying is, is it more
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  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson than anybody else? Is Ben Johnson pulling the
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  Speaker 2: strings like no other? Like he can make anybody? Hell,
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  Speaker 2: he can make Nelly a starting quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: It feels like it, Vic. But again, Keenum hasn't played
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  Speaker 4: in a while, but he's got a ton of... of experience.
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  Speaker 4: So when he steps into the contest, he knows exactly
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  Speaker 4: what he's doing. His brain is working and operating properly.
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  Speaker 4: If you had Tyson Bajan in there, would it have
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  Speaker 4: looked the same last night? Would it have been 27-7?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that it would have because Keenum
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  Speaker 4: is just that old wily vet sitting in the back
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  Speaker 4: just sort of observing everything. And then, again, he steps
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  Speaker 4: in and cools a cucumber.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you this much, Vic. Ben Johnson did pass
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. I don't want to call it a hurdle.
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  Speaker 5: but it was an interesting sort of thought. Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 5: has never coached as an OC or a head coach,
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  Speaker 5: a quarterback who is not a number one overall draft
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  Speaker 5: pick because he's had golf or he's had Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 5: going into last night. So that was, that was sort
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  Speaker 5: of a narrative going into it is, can he do
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  Speaker 5: that without some superstar number one overall pick guy?
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  Speaker 4: And the answer was, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Case Keenum should be very familiar to
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  Speaker 2: Broncos fans because the reason, I'll take you back, the
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  Speaker 2: reason the Denver Broncos did not draft Josh Allen is
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  Speaker 2: because they had just acquired Case Keenum in free agency.
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  Speaker 2: He was the prize pick. Remember, he finished off that
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  Speaker 2: miracle in Minnesota. He wrote a book. He came in here.
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  Speaker 2: He was the guy. He was their choice. The draft
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  Speaker 2: came around. Josh Allen was available. They decided to go defense.
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  Speaker 4: But, Vic, I think part of it also was I
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  Speaker 4: don't think you can get rid of the miss on
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  Speaker 4: Paxton Lynch as also a reason why you did not
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  Speaker 4: draft Josh Allen. I think it was probably Elway's looking
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  Speaker 4: for a safety net, and he found one of the
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  Speaker 4: guys who had just been a miracle worker in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 4: and it made it maybe more palatable to pass on
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  Speaker 4: a guy that you thought could be great, but you
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  Speaker 4: don't want to go through the whiff.
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  Speaker 7: Paxton?
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  Speaker 2: Paxton's Paxton.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question.
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  Speaker 5: If Stefan Diggs gets tackled inbounds, do the Broncos draft
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  Speaker 5: Josh Allen?
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  Speaker 4: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 2: History has a way of changing things. That's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: If the result of that game is different, is the
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  Speaker 2: hype the same?
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  Speaker 5: If Minnesota loses, is Case Keenum still like, well, that's
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  Speaker 5: a huge, huge.
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  Speaker 4: Prize to get in the offseason?
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  Speaker 5: Or is it just, oh, backup had a fun few
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  Speaker 5: games for the Vikings, and then they lost.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to, you know, like the hype
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  Speaker 2: surrounding Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold won a Super Bowl. But
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  Speaker 2: he was, you know, Sam Darnold after the Jets experiment
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  Speaker 2: versus Sam Darnold today. Two different quarterbacks, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So I think the feeling in Denver is, man, I
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  Speaker 2: think Case Keenum's a Sam Darnold. You got him on
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  Speaker 2: the rebound. He's looking good. He can do some things.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know that Case Keenum? has won a game
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  Speaker 2: as a starting quarterback with seven different teams in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: I'll list them for you. You ready? As a starter, Texans, Rams, Vikings, Broncos, Commanders, Browns,
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  Speaker 2: and now Bears.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: You know what also that tells me? He's probably not
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  Speaker 5: very good. When you have a quarterback that plays for
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  Speaker 5: that many different teams and that many teams say, no thanks.
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  Speaker 4: He may not be very good, but he's at times
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  Speaker 4: been good enough.
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  Speaker 2: Good enough. Going back to that term.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, he's the kind of guy you're always looking
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  Speaker 4: for the star to come your way. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 4: you throw this guy out there and he can win
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  Speaker 4: you some games.
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  Speaker 2: You know what he is?
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  Speaker 4: He's the best backup to the backup the NFL has
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  Speaker 4: to offer.
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  Speaker 2: You know what he is? Because there's only one other
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  Speaker 2: quarterback who's done what he did. Seven different teams won
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  Speaker 2: a game. Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's the other guy. Same guy.
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  Speaker 4: It's just weird, man.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the only two things that I know through three
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  Speaker 5: weeks of this NFL season. I know that the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: are the exact same team as they were last year.
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  Speaker 5: Almost to a T, right? One thing I know, the
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  Speaker 5: Broncos are the exact same. Here's the only other thing
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  Speaker 5: I know about the NFL. The Dolphins are terrible. Those
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  Speaker 5: are my two, there's my two options. And beyond that,
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  Speaker 5: you tell me, is anything else for sure?
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  Speaker 4: I thought the Falcons were terrible. Then Michael Penick stepped
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  Speaker 4: in and he ripped some tail. Hey, the Rams are good.
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  Speaker 4: They're one and two.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Weird.
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  Speaker 4: What else? Ben Johnson's good at calling plays.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's so much that I don't know still
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  Speaker 5: through three weeks of this NFL season, but The funny
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  Speaker 5: thing is the most comfortable thing I can say is
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  Speaker 5: I know exactly who the Broncos are. Because they have
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  Speaker 5: been this way two straight years without changing. The exact
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  Speaker 5: same team.
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  Speaker 2: So just enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 5: Adam Schefter at 920 this morning. Let me get some
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  Speaker 5: stuff from Media Day. I got a question for you.
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  Speaker 5: Heard a common theme from the law firm of Tenzer
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  Speaker 5: and Wallace.
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  Speaker 4: And David Adelman. And I want to know if this
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  Speaker 4: is the right way to approach it. We'll get to
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  Speaker 4: it next.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so Adam Schefter is going to join us
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  Speaker 5: at 920 this morning. The Avs start their season tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: I do want to talk a little bit about what
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: to expect from the Avs this year.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: But going to media day yesterday. Explain what's happening tomorrow
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: at 8. The return of Jared Bednar tomorrow at 8
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: o'clock as well. So media day. Vic saw a whole
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: bunch of stuff coming out of Media Day. I know
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: you were there.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: There was a common theme that I heard from both Tenzer, Wallace, Adelman. Well,
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: they kept saying this. I want to get your thoughts.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: This was John Wallace on not making many changes over
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: the offseason.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of things were on the table.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: But obviously, a season that's played by injuries, you can't
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: overlook the fact that that core put together a 54-win season.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: And I think the guys who had to kind of
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: fill in and, kind of gives us some material boost
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: to us, stepped up in a big way. And so
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: we kind of sat down and looked at what guys
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: could do, what the growth and what the, I guess
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: the projected outcomes could be. And a lot of things
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: just kind of made sense to stay put. Obviously we
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: had some additions there with, you know, added some athletes,
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: added some guys that are a little bit different with
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: TB and Bryce. You know, you bring in the addition
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: of a Cam Whitmore, you know, on a two-way right now.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: So you add some competition to the gym, you add some,
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: Some stop gaps in some areas where we were kind
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: of lacking last year. But, you know, all in all,
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: I think to keep a core together with adding some
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: new fresh faces and fresh blood was a good decision.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that was Wallace. Here was David Adleman asked
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: the same question.
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: I understand we're going to say things, there's going to
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: be narratives, all that stuff. But the men in that
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: room that are back, 154 and won the most road
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: games in the history of the franchise and had the
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: best offense in the NBA. I know you guys want
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: to ignore that, but that's what they did. And so
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: you have to lean into some of the things that
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: you did well. But you sure as hell have to
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: learn from when you lose. And I wouldn't even say
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: just the Minnesota series. I would say looking back at
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: all the losses we had last year and trying to
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: find themes of why, which allows me to try to
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: change things, not necessarily, you know, this is a rule
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: and this isn't a rule and all those things, but
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: how we practice, how we drill, what's important to us
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: every day.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: So they both mentioned something, and it was 54. Here's
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: my question surrounding that. Did it feel like you were
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: a 54-win team last year? Because I remember years in
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: which the Nuggets won 54 games, and you thought that
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: team's winning a championship.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't have that feeling.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: And I think a lot of that, that 54 number,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: is skewed a bit by winning 12 straight to close
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: out the year against teams that pretty much folded up shop.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: And could you say the same thing if that didn't happen? Like,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: you played Utah twice in that span.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Utah literally.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: said, Nurkic, don't play for the rest of the year
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: and get your sleep apnea fixed.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: They did that. Yeah, they also.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Beat the San Antonio team that was trying to win.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And they beat them in San Antonio.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: They didn't play Wiminyama, though.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, San Antonio was trying to win. They left
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: their starters in the game. Every starter was in the game.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets played without starters.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: What's your point? What's the point?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: My point?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Or eight points. Somebody give me eight points.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: But they didn't play Wiminiama that last game. They were
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: still trying to win.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jokic only played 10 minutes. What I'm telling you
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: is they tried to win and some other teams tried
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to win and didn't for whatever reason. I believe, here's
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: what I believe. I believe the Nuggets, the front office,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the coaches, staff, and the players. You have to have
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: immense pride and confidence to play in this league. They believe...
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: The playoffs were an aberration, a fluke. Worst possible time
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to play your worst basketball.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I can see that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: That's what they believe.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: The injury factor, Vic, was immense. And I know that
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: they don't want to talk about it, but it was
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: a huge, huge factor.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, they talked about it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: That's actually interesting.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. They talked about it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, they talked about it. Ben Tenzer mentioned there's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a new director of medical training. They added doctors to
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the staff. They added new wrinkles to how they handle
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the offseason. Aaron Gordon talked about his availability. Listen, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: will say it again. This is very simple. Listen to me.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: This team will go as far as Aaron Gordon's availability
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: will allow them to go. Hang on. The end.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Let me go back to something that you mentioned earlier,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: that they saw the Minnesota series as a fluke.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I think that that series was an indication of what
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: you didn't have. And yes, injuries were part of it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: But guys, we've talked about this before. The more injured
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: team in that series was far and away Minnesota. They
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: were way more injured than you were. But here's what's funny.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I don't see that as sort of a fluke. I
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: thought that was an indicator of things that you didn't have.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: In the Avs case, I do think that was a fluke.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: I think if the Avs take that approach, I think that's,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: to me, that's the way I looked at it was
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: there was four games that entire year that looked entirely
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: different than the ones previous to it, and it was
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: the last four that you played.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: But on that subject....
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: I'll say this too, to their credit. They can't go
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: up there and say, well, guys, we had no money.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: We couldn't move off contracts. They couldn't say that into
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: a microphone either. So, yeah, you got to put a
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: little bow on things and make it look nice. Now, again,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: the Nuggets are a good basketball team.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Like, they're good. They're not going to go up to
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the microphone in the offseason and say, well, we tried
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to trade this guy right next to me.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Do you remember, didn't Calvin Booth do that with Zeke?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Not specifically, but he said something like, yeah, we tried
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: to make a move for him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Didn't happen. Nobody wanted it. I think I just made
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it look too easy. Vic, the bottom line is when
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: you look at the starting five, if that starting five
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: is intact this season, the Denver Nuggets are going to
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: win a boatload of games. There's no doubt in my
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: mind that they could be a 54-win team again or
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: more because that is an awesome starting five, in my opinion.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: That being said, what does DeRozan have left in the tank?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: What's Bagley's story? Could he thrive as a former second overall,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: you know, playing in a better system? Lonnie Walker, the fourth,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's bounced around a little bit, but he
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: still has something, and he's still in his 20s. And
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: which one of these young guys is actually going to
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: take a next step? Somebody just– who was it that
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: just said Bryce? Was it John Wallace was talking about
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Bryce Hopkins, the second-round pick who's shown out already in
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Summer League. So I guess somebody's going to step onto
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: the scene– and make an impact. I just don't know
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: how much. And by the way, somebody needs to because
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: you're going to need that depth.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: There were two different tones from yesterday's media day that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I got, and it was a great opportunity for me
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: yesterday because normally I'm locked into a room doing interviews
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: with every player, but yesterday I sort of waltzed around
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and watched everything. I listened to all the press conference.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I listened to some of the one-on-ones. I talked to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, so I got a better sense
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: of of where they stand mentally and emotionally. And here's
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: how I came away with it. Yesterday, Nuggets have this
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: chip on their shoulder that, hey, man, I know we sucked.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: The season ended poorly. We sucked. We sucked. We can't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: explain why, but we're going to try to tell you why.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that's healthy to have that chip. They
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: were almost defiant yesterday and angry yesterday. And you could
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: tell it in the tone in which they spoke. The
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray press conference alone, I could
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: tell it in the tone. In the David Adleman press conference.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: The tone they took there. Like, let's prove everybody wrong.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I like that tone. You need that tone. Because guess what?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It did not end well. It ended poorly. And you're right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You can't say injuries because the team that you lost
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to had injuries as well.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Speaking of tone... Did anybody ask and did anybody answer
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: the would you have done it different against Minnesota question?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's a great question that I didn't hear anybody ask
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: that question.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Because to a man, if they don't look back at
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: that series and say, yeah, we probably should have responded
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: a little bit different after the comments of Knucklehead. then
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be disappointed. I mean, maybe internally they
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: feel that way, Vic, and that is something they all
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: have regret about, and I hope that is the case.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: But that clearly should have been handled differently, in my opinion.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to have to take my word for this.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't publicly ask that question because I know the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: answer already. They do.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: They do.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I know the answer because I've already spoken to enough people.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: On the team to know the answer to that question.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Let me step in and say it then. Let me
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: settle my own heart. Yeah, they regret it. They wish
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: they had stepped up and put him on his ass.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: What'd they say, Vic?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I believe that as a team, you are what you are.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: If it's not in your DNA to do something, you
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: can't force it, right? If it's not in your DNA.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: We know the type of player that would have done
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: something in that situation. Russell Westbrook would have done something.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Right? Mm-hmm.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I just don't think they have the players that would
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: react that way. And you can't force it upon him.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I think Aaron Gordon, if healthy in that series, does something.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: He was never healthy. Even when he played, he wasn't healthy.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Not even close to healthy. Christian Brown was not healthy
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: in that series. And I'm saying, doing something about that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win the series, but
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: it makes you feel a little different, doesn't it? Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: You're sticking up for yourself. Well, two things here.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Number one, I think when healthy, their top seven players,
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: that's a group of guys that I think you can
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: go to war with. I think if you take your
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: starting five along with DeMar DeRozan and Spencer Jones, I
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: think that's a really good top seven. If they stay healthy.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Everything beyond that, I don't know. I'm not going to
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: get excited about Alpha Diallo's and Bryce Hopkins and Trevin
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Brazil because I don't know them. Even in the case
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: of Julian Strother, don't really know what kind of player
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: he is. Seen a little bit, not consistent enough. You
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? But the top seven, I like that.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I think that's a great group.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The argument that was posed yesterday, and this is where
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the line is drawn. The Nuggets are saying, and this
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: is everybody, hey, respect the fact that we won 54
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: games and won the most road games. Respect that. That
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: was hard. And I think a lot of fans and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of people in the media are like, yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but what good did that do you when you got
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs? Exactly.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: And this is, they can think that way, like you're
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: on the grind every day, you're the one taking the
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: trips and doing all that and staying at hotels. You've
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: been in a place for years in which you're expecting
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: a championship because you have one of the greatest players
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: who's ever touched a basketball. And when that's the case,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: anything that results in a first-round exit is nobody's going
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: to care. They could have won 70 games in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: regular season. You get bounced the way you did, that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: all that matters. I mean, it's the same thing. Moj,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: does anybody care that the Avs were the number one
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: team in the NHL last year?
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: You care about the last four games of the season.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: That's all that matters. That's all that matters.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: And that's the truth when it comes to sports and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: production and pro sports. That really is. You know, when
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you're a pro athlete, people see results. The process doesn't matter.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: The results matter. And unfortunately, that's something that My approach
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: yesterday was far different than a lot of people were
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: asking questions during that media day that, frankly, I don't care.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I don't care about those questions. Those mean nothing to me.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: What I care about is this. If you're in the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: same situation in April, what are you going to do?
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: That's an excellent point.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I care about. The same thing happens.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Somebody gets in your face. Somebody muscles you up. Somebody
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: pushes you. What are you going to do?
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Are you going to push back? Exactly right. Vic, we've
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: been through this enough. We've been around long enough that
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: intellectually I can completely understand what Tenzer and Wallace and
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Adelman said. I completely understand it because I know what
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: these guys were going through. I know the hamstringing because
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: of the... I almost said the F. Aprons... Right? Aprons
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: and caps and the lack of ability to do things
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: and improve and so on. I know all of those things,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: so I respect exactly what they're saying. And right now
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: you kind of just have to go through it in
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: order to get to a place where more championships are
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: going to be available in the future. Because what I do,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: my favorite thing I heard yesterday, and hopefully we can
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: put this to bed.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to sign next year.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: If they want me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I see one more nerd across the
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: interwebs or any place regarding any hoop site or anything
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: ever speculate about Joker leaving Denver, Colorado, I'm going to
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: lose my blank because he wants to be here. He's
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: going to be here. Supermax is coming again. 350 mil.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: He's not going anywhere. He's going to finish his career
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: as a Denver Nugget. And you know what I like
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: more about that? Do you have any more cuts about that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Not on the board.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Because he started talking about legacy. And he started talking
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: about you want to be legendary. You want to be remembered.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: And that's the way you do it. It's my way
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: of thinking. And that's what he wants as a Denver Nugget.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: So let's put that to bed and let's forget about
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: that and not talk about that crap anymore. Well, here's
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: one thing that's clear in this.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: I'm going to sign next year.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: If they want me. Here's what's funny to me. is
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: that I'm so glad this is out of.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: The way now before all of the, I think Joker
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: should sign with this team. My column thing starts. What
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: I love about Joker saying that is all of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: different things. that were thought about why didn't he sign
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: this off season? Is he holding the nuggets hostage to X, Y,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: and Z to make sure they do this or that?
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know what he was doing? Living his life.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: It's all he was doing.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: He was living his life and he was saying, well,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: I can make more money if I just wait till
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: next year.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: So why don't I do that?
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: And the only thing he said in the off season
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: was I'll be honest. I'm kind of tired of people
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: walking up to me when I'm in public.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: That's what he said. And that struck me. I got
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: to be honest.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: When he said that, I thought to myself, man, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: bet he would love Los Angeles or New York then,
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: like everybody thought.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time with Joker yesterday, just
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: walking around, and he did the entire car wash. He
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: did like 12 different interviews by the time he was done.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And I want to give credit, the whole Nuggets, the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: PR staff, The way they handled yesterday. I mean, 10
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: out of 10. It was awesome. Everybody was smile on
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: their face yesterday. Because I've been part of media days
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: where guys wouldn't show up to interviews. Yesterday was phenomenal.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And Joker, first of all, looked as veldt as can be.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: He looked tremendous.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Did somebody call him jacked?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they called him... Was it jacked or swole or something?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Like cut. Someone said, you look cut. And he said,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: That.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yesterday was as good as I've seen Joker physically entering
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: a camp. Maybe the second best I've seen him since
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: he's been a nugget.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Physically. So he looks ready to go. Number one. Number two.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: You have to take my word for this. I got
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: nothing but my word on this. That's it. He ain't
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. He is a Denver nugget for life. No
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: matter what anybody says. No matter what stories you read.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: No matter what crap emanates and originates from another town about, oh, this,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it does, the Nuggets could go 0 for 82 this year.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: 0 for 82. He ain't going anywhere. Okay? He loves
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it here. He's going to finish it here. And if
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I told you, the reason he's signing his contract after
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the season is really simple. Most of us in life,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: we want security because we're unsure of the future. If,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: knock on wood, God forbid, if Nikola Jokic stepped into,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: off a curb and broke something and he was out
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: for the season. Do you think the nuggets would give
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: him the money he wanted?
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: A hundred percent.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: You could chop off both of his legs and you
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: would give him a super max.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: There is no risk. He knows that his agent, there
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: is no risk to wait and get more money on
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: his end. Cause he knows that the security is going
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to be there no matter what. So enough with that
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: ridiculous argument. Stop it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: He's here.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Enjoy him.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: The last time that Jokic touches a basketball, it will
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: be in Denver, and then he will go home to
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Serbia and never be seen again. That's it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Anything involving a basketball happens here in this town. No
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: other place.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
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• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Schefter at 920 this morning. I witnessed something. My wife
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: was actually telling me about it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: It's this new thing that's going around, things that are
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: happening for content. And it's like a girlfriend or wife
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: has husband or boyfriend with his back to the television
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: as the football game's on, and they do the play-by-play.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The first two that I saw I felt were
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: kind of cute, and I'm sort of bored. I thought
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: they were funny.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I watched it with a Broncos fan.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I guess this Broncos fan had his back to the
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: TV during the Rams game for the final two minutes.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And I can tell. I can tell. this guy is like, oh,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I have to do.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: This thing that my girlfriend wants to do so she
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: can do an Instagram video. All the guy wanted to
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: do was watch the game. That's all he wanted to do.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, if my wife tried, like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: if it's.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: The third period of Game 7... and the Avs are
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: tied with the Stars. And my wife goes, oh, you
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: know what would be funny? If I did the video,
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, we aren't doing the video right now, okay?
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Save that for.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Some sort of like Hornets and Pelicans game in the
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: middle of the season.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Usually it's the other way around in my family. I'm
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the content creator wanting these people to do videos, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: they're like, no, Dad, not again.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Terry's watching The Bachelor and you're like, hey, I'll give
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: you a play-by-play.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's going in for the kiss. You know, it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: so funny about that. I can't remember the last time
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Terry was part of your videos. I can't remember.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: She doesn't let me video.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a long, long, long time. Yeah, she's
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: not your monkey.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: She's not your little minion that you get to use
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: for your little games.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: My mom allows it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: That's because she's just walking around the kitchen cooking. She's
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: not really... There's nothing like this show. She's an NPC.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: She's just in the background. Yeah, she's doing her job, man.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: She's working.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Anyway, I saw those videos, and I just thought to myself,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: if my wife ever tried to do that with me
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: for a game that I cared about, because he's sitting there,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: and he's like, she goes, oh, they caught it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And he goes, who caught it? It was the guy.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: The guy caught it. The hair guy. It was Hufanga?
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Dude.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: When my kid was playing, when he was playing sports
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: as a kid, I'd miss a lot of games because
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I used to work in the news and I'd be,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you know, at the station. So I would call my
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: wife who's at these games. Now, I'm not trying to, listen,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: she is a sports fan, but not a deep sports fan.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: She would try to describe the moment to me. And
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I would walk away going, what in the hell are
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: How can he be pitching and batting at the same time, Vic, Vic?
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: My mother, who is much like what you described with Terry.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: She likes sports. It's just like, it's not.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: She doesn't know a lot about... It's not part of
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: her everyday life. She watches Kansas State football.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: And she likes that, right?
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: And she watches Lions games with my dad.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: And brother because they're watching it. It's my brother's.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Senior year of high school. Senior year. He has played
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: for four years of high school football. I'm sitting in
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: the bleachers Friday night next to him. My brother's lined
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: up at tight end. She asked, is he on offense
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: or defense? I'm like, Mom, this is four years. You've
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: been watching every game. What do you mean offense or defense?
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: You know this by now.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Same thing, though. Same thing.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: There were moments when she was cheering for the wrong team.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: What did you guys see?
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: I think it was in the Brazil game. So that was,
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: what was Brazil? That was Cowboys and Ravens, right? There
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: was a Brazilian guy in a Ravens jersey. The Cowboys scored,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: and they cut to the crowd, and he's going like this.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know, this applies to guys, too. This applies
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: to men. My brothers once went, when my kid was
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: playing lacrosse, I think he was 13, and they went
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to Dick's Sporting Goods Park, and over there they have
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: like 18 fields, right? So you can't tell one from
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the other. And they went to the game that they
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: thought he was on, my son. And when they're wearing
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: those lacrosse masks, you can't tell others apart. They spent
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: an entire half yelling at a kid, yelling at a kid,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: trying to root him on and walked up to him
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: after the game only to take his helmet off. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it wasn't him. And it was the wrong game.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Well, my buddy's son, he's playing hockey now and he
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: sent me a video and he goes, look at him.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: And I had to text him back. I go, how
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: am I supposed to know who's your kid? There's no
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: numbers on the jerseys. There's just a whole bunch of
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: like 11 year olds skating around.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That's it. Um, This Sam says both of my brothers
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and I played college football and our mom still has
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: no idea what's going on. Hey, can I tell you something?
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Speaking of unaware of what's happening right in front of you,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: did you guys happen to see yesterday?
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: There's two clips I want to play from other media
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: days around basketball. Here's one from Steph Curry. Listen to this.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Steve was saying that he kind of likes that. No
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: one expects you guys to make the playoffs.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: And that there's a little bit of freedom to flying
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: under the radar. That's how bad it is? To make
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the playoffs?
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: It went from championship to... I'm just wondering what you
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: think about that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Do you feel the freedom? That's what I think about that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Damn!
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Damn!
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Sorry, that went to you. That was to the situation.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Woo!
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Steph, you haven't made the playoffs four of the last
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: seven seasons. Why is he acting surprised by this?
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: They won 37 games last season. I don't know why
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: he would be surprised. I'm sure he's got pride. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: reality has to step in eventually, does it not?
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Moj, they have missed the playoffs more than they've made
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: it the last seven years. And he's acting surprised that
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: people are like, wow, I don't know if you're making...
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Just a newsflash to everybody out there. The play-in's not
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: the playoffs. Sorry, that doesn't count.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Doesn't count.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: If you aren't part of the final eight teams of
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: your conference, then you are not in the playoffs. They've
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: missed that four of the last seven years.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: And he's like, they're wondering if we're going to make the.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm wondering too. You guys look terrible. That looks
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: like an awful roster. But is that worse than this?
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Big time media day in Philly. You know, they had
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: the Eagles game last night, but there was a whole
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: bunch of media members at that 76ers media day. Why?
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Because LeBron's there. Why wouldn't you be? What would you
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: think if LeBron said this?
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: You know, I have visions of definitely... You know, playing
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: in the Garden, finishing my career in the Garden, one
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: of the best places I've ever played. I think it's
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: the number one arena in the world as far as
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: a basketball player. But after they beat San Antonio, I
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: was like, I couldn't do it. Wouldn't feel right? Y'all
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: wouldn't have let me lay that down at all, you know.
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: But much respect to the Knicks, obviously. Unbelievable team, unbelievable players.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: Shout out Jalen Brunson. Love that guy. He's unbelievable. But, yeah,
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: I'm happy where I'm at, and I'm looking forward to it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: So that's LeBron at 76ers Media Day saying, yeah, I
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: was going to play for the Knicks, and then they
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: won the title, and so I wasn't going to do that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: But I do really love the Knicks, and they have
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: the best arena in the world. And by the way,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I'm going to live in New York City while I'm
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: playing for Philadelphia.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: What?
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I would be pissed. You know, it's a professional mercenary.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: That's a guy who carries himself, and he's probably right.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I'm about to say something that I believe is right.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: He carries himself like he's just as big as the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: league itself.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: He carries himself like, look, you're lucky I'm here.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he carries himself like there's the NBA, then there's me,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and I do what I want, and I go where
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I want, and you guys wouldn't let me go there.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: You'd give me too much crap. But I'm one guy,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and then there's the league. That's how he carries himself.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Pretty much, yeah. You're lucky that I'm playing for this
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: basketball team that I'm here, and I'm going to enjoy
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: myself while I'm here. I would have gone there, but,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: you know, they won, and I want to be the
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: reason you win, and I need all that love and
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: all those accolades, so hopefully we can win here in Philly.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: So I don't know what the right comparison would be,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: but let's just say this. What if the Lakers were
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: the Fort Collins Lakers or something, okay?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: And.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: LeBron comes to Denver, and he goes, yeah, I wanted
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: to play for the Lakers, but they just won the title,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: and so I can't do that. So I came here instead,
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to live in Fort Collins. I got
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: to tell you, I love everything about that team. Best
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: player on that team, Jalen Brunson.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: He's awesome. It's the best arena in the world. Anyway,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: can't wait to play here.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: It's just weird.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: We should be like, hey, bleep you.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what it does. Everything I love
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: about sports, and I'll ask you guys if you feel
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the same way, And you guys know what I feel
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: about Denver. To me, when it comes to pro sports,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: it's about my city. It's about our city. You represent
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: our city. This guy's walking in. He's not even living
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: in that city.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: No.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: He doesn't care about the city. He's living in another city.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: He's helicoptering in. He doesn't care. There's no civic pride there.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It's not about, you know, I'm going to, what's that song?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: What's the rap? I'm going to show for my city.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Put on for my city?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Put on. Sorry.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put on for my city.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: That is the poet Young Jeezy.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: There's none of that. And that, to me, is the
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: fundamental thing that drives communities in sports. When we're out
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: at an avalanche parade, a Broncos parade, a Nuggets parade,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: we're all part of this.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: This is our city.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: This is our community. We all did this. And you've
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: got a guy saying, I'm just immersed. I don't care.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Can we get down to the brunt of it, though?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Can we get down to brass tacks here? Brett, have
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: you been to Philadelphia?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: You know, my mother was raised in Philly. I like
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: that city a lot. Is she still with us? She's not.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: God rest her soul. For anybody listening who's new to
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: this show, that's a bit, by the way. I was
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: going to say. That probably sounded really weird. If a
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: new listener heard you say that.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: Because Moj always drops water on us.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: My mom's dead. But I'm not doing that anymore. I've
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: seen the light.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: You've moved on.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I've moved on. Got it. It's a wonderful city. But
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: the sports fans there, they want to win an NBA
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: championship again for the first time in what, Vic? 40
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: what years?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Not since 4-4-3.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: 43 years. LeBron James could probably go jogging and take
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: a whiz on Ben Franklin's grave in the middle of
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Philadelphia and they would still be like, yeah, let's go Sixers.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I mean, it doesn't matter
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: whether he lives there or not. It doesn't matter whether
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: they were his first choice or not. He's there, and
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: they're thrilled by it, and they want to win. I'll
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: tell you this much.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: He better pray to every basketball god that exists that
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: they don't get bounced in the second round.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, baby.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Because when he said yesterday, I didn't leave my family
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: to lose in the second round, if he does, it
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: is going to be the most memed thing in.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: The history of the internet. Might be. You really teed
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: yourself up for one of these. Might be. By the way,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: you've got to get there sometime. You've got to see
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: the Liberty Bell. You've got to see Independence Hall. You've
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: got to see where they drew up the Declaration of
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Independence and where the first Senate was. I'm a history
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: guy now. I knew I'd get you. And you got
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: to go see the Rockies? You got to go run
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: up the Rocky steps?
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, got it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing that. Most history there is that.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. I'm not going to see a
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: memorial to a movie. More than starting a nation, Rocky
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Randy steps.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares about the stupid bell. What are you going
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: to do, go ring the bell? What are you going
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: to do with the bell?
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Just go, Nelly.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: Go.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Go.