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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe this this week was of course Great safety for the bears back then
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Evan Mac at the real Evan Mac of course joined as always by my co-host he explained with six seven means of the pre-show meeting for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't really get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He also told me about two end words that couldn't use on air much like our friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his favorite bad bunny song is the way by y'all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is at Ross Reed on social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is Ross Reed folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's happening buddy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my favorite bad bunny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got the little bad buddy
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, big news for Bonito.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good news for that money for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, on the note of our fair president probably mad about it, but we'll get that later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, comes when it comes up one not that against the Padres in the wild card, which is
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exciting nice home game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got invited and I couldn't go to a clock Do these games are really yeah, I was no Digress for a second part and it's like what are we doing MLB exactly?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like it's it was packed So I was maybe they called and say
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you're in a city like Chicago and you have a game in the middle of the afternoon during the work week, it's just absolutely insane and yeah, and I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to maximize right now in front of me is Yankee's versus right socks, so you want to maximize that you want to put them on in the prime time, but.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, baseball can also put multiple games on at once.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the playoffs for crying out loud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That game should have been a 6-7 o'clock RAW.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make game every week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's another day game tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, those making sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, another two will fly game tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that aside, the little cubs, the little bears, I should say, the cubs,
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[SPEAKER_00]: win and we're talking bears on this show of ours of course and we'll talk about that Raiders game is the bears improved at two and two and two never tasted so good for this bears team I guess maybe should be three and one we'll talk about that all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: take away from that game as the bears are now in the by week so they get to take that week off at getting a healthy at the right time talk about offensive line notes talk about head coaching notes and all of that in between NFL newsletter in the show as well and yeah but bad bunny in the Super Bowl getting the Super Bowl gig exciting stuff you feel good Ross some of roles on in October here for
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there still feels like somewhere outside right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a birthday coming up on this Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usually it's about 45 50 degrees right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I get to actually celebrate and keep the patio furniture out this weekend and enjoy, you know, well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it feels good at Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You play out baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got your team on a buy weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to worry about the the anxiousness of a game this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to sit back relax and enjoy the weather and yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The globe is indeed warming for for good or for bad, at least we're getting nice weather and to Ross's birthday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So happy birthday early birthday to you, sir.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go wish them an early happy birthday folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and yeah, I got I got tickets to
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[SPEAKER_00]: take this weather.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We shall see how that shows goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's let's talk about it to start, you know, got the buy week coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So nothing to preview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's let's dive into the good and the bad of that raiders game because there was a lot of both.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It certainly was up in the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just going back to say that first quarter for the bears,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, three turnovers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Genosmith, doing genosmith things, and then tri-reaks, Stevenson, kind of that AASHION GENTIFUMBLE, or however that happened, converting to three points where, you know, it should have been many more points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're really missing Darnell Wright, you feel like who was a scratch for that game in addition to TJ Edwards, Kyla Gordon, and we knew Jalen Johnson would be playing,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in terms of of the offense, it was kind of what you would expect from from Caleb Williams kind of up and down we see, you know, Caleb that that interception that crawls we got I don't entirely put on him, but maybe it's a throw you never make to because it looked like even if he had gotten that off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Asked the line it would be into double coverage so he'll get in that rhythm going into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the next drives into the second quarter is the coal combat drive as active as he was addrop in the red zone yet a couple drops at that time along the sideline we remember, you know, things like
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[SPEAKER_00]: the fumble he luckily fell into a void of turnover and another fumble later in the game that we'll talk about it was caused by him getting scared of max crawls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was all over the field in the first half and then the bear seemed to make those necessary adjustments into that second half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I feel like the offense
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of what you figured there were nerves, they had to the big story this week is certainly practicing Jones getting benched in that game on Theo Benadette taking over, moving from right tackled to left and then Ozzie getting in and having to face max draws me and get his first real reps really getting thrown in right away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's certainly a tale of two different offenses and I feel like what were you thinking when you saw Braxton Jones got pulled was it deserving And just get impressions right away seeing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, you listen to Ben Johnson after the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He praised the ability to
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[SPEAKER_01]: really controlled things in the run game from the left side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when you look at the season as a whole, Braxton is just he's a bit adequate to okay in past protection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been very bad in getting this run game going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think at this point, the reason why the Bayer is despite the fact that they had so many turnovers or able to generate so many turnovers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They love so many points on the table, you can count to the bad drops, some cool comments, stuff like that, but at the end of the day, they have not been able to get this runny game going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that has to frustrate Ben Johnson because he really wanted that to be a hallmark for this offense and something for them to lean on and really propel them to the next level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been able to get there yet, 2.7 yards per carry on some of his game, but it looked better coincidentally in the second half when Braxton Jones got out of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at the game when you touch down to D&J Swift, it was too the left side and he was able to get to the corner and get to the end zone and score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, Braxton really just became a huge liability specifically in the run game, which is something that they have to get going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you have to get this, you have to have some semblance of balance in your offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, heading into the by week, you probably thought it was a perfect time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds like you're going to get there and I'll write back on my right side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have been at it, it's going to move to the left side and be your starting left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not ideal in passing situations because he's got very short arms, but he helped up well from the most part and they're going to be able to help him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be able to chip with light with the tight ends and running backs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most importantly, you got to keep a defense off balance and not rely so much heavily on Caleb's arm and legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to get this running and go in and so they need a little bit of a spark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's a perfect timing to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to extend the time off with the buy, but in a football game as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually they with that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, for having replaced Braxton Jones with Theo Benadette, and again, Ozzie Tripeo getting those first reps, which I'll kind of go over as performance shortly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, you know, your team should have been up 21 to 7 in the half, perhaps you figure with those turnovers with the momentum there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a number of reasons, you know, you're not pleased with that first half performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the play calling was was just kind of sub par really and I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you can't run the football, it's, uh, it just makes you real one-dimensional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's brutal to see that offensive progress at times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A whole unit was kind of a let down in that first half again by not getting in the end zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: ultimately they did of course, but you know the forcing the turnover is giving up a couple touchdowns to Gen T like now we we also saw on the other side of the ball with Gen T he is arrived and he was just picking apart that defense and they bears have been suspect too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, running backs like Jamir Gibbs so far this season and and elite running backs, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the rookie really gave it to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, 25 totally yards in the half though is is crazy off three turnovers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You should have been punching in the points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really what hurts more when the bears, you know, were behind going into the half there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, to start the second half when I was a looting to early, a tyrant Steven's getting that intersection, and when you're forcing all these turnovers, it seems like a completely different game, um, the fake flea flicker with a face Mac penalty on Swift, you're starting to see a little of Ben Johnson's cute plays there, uh, I don't know how that, how you felt about that Ross, but, you know, again, to the performance with Ben Adette and Ozzy with toughest assignments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really settling in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They performed all right, you know, bears getting that touchdown finally after the Stevenson Interception, a nice Caleb Drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Roma Dunes a now score, what in four straight games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's pretty, pretty incredible to see his growth and him taking over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, like the the throws that Caleb can make on the run, like the one
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[SPEAKER_00]: so impressive and you saw towards the end of the game where it really mattered what you wanted him going down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: milking clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a long drive for the bears for them to go and and score with, you know, within the two minute warning more or less with twoish minutes to go, you didn't get the two point conversion, but you needed the six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what really matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a mediocre day for Swift like you talked about in this running game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We still just haven't really seen them get it going, but it was pretty balanced in that drive, rather Caleb had to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: had to, you know, duck and cover and run or deandry swift, they just couldn't run between the tackles in the fourth quarter, you saw a little more of that and then the accuracy of Caleb Williams and just being able to to drive them down the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, that block super impressive, which I saw that the bears long snapper had had called the Josh Blackwell and said, hey, look out for this, he moves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to know when to get the early jump on them, which is a terrible towel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a long snapper, you got fixed that of your the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, when as a win as a win is up and up and down as it was, you see that this was kind of what we talked about with, you know, Braxton Jones, the concerns were there and whatever, you know, point plays you pointed to in the first half early on where he,
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[SPEAKER_00]: gets pulled like this is what Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still, you know, not particularly sold on the Abenid at perhaps, but it's what you really needed from your, what third round pick, an Aussie torpedo, too, to see him and get out there and get these reps at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you see what you got finally, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I saw from Aussie was super impressive being thrown in like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you asked from your rookie,
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[SPEAKER_00]: tackle in that in that position, how it shakes out, you know, in this by the way, they get a lot of time to think about it and practice and see who fits where, but you would, I mean, certainly Darnell Wright, hopefully getting healthy, taking back over that right tackle spot, and then you figure
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a debt and and maybe trapeo buying for that left tackles about at this point, but I obviously getting the win, it's where you want to be in that win column, especially things for how bad the bears have been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, getting into that position, they allowed like a 40 yard kickoff and then they blocked that field goal, ultimately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I'll give you a heart attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These bears games very close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fives of Joe, shout out to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was, and then the Chicago fans all really took over, is, I feel like more than 50, 50 bears fans than Raiders fans as much as you feel like this is a home game for the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really just such a big travel destination.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other thoughts on how they finished the game, Ross?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we'll say, you go back to the tackle situation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: As he trapeels first offensive snap was right before the end of the second quarter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like three minutes, 55 seconds left in the second quarter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at that point, Ben Johnson has seen enough of this offense and seen enough of the running game and seen enough of Brasson Jones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted him out of there and, you know, as he played solid, I think that's a tough spot for him to go his first real NFL action.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the road against an all-pro who's having an all-world game in Max Crosby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, you know, IZ played 40 snaps against Max Crosby, 26 of them were past the times, 14 were rushing, and most importantly, he was able to keep kill Williams clean and with two hurries or no sacks and with quarterback hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did get a lot of help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I noticed there were a lot more tight ends, chipping on that side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I noticed Caleb and the pocket was moving a little bit more to the left side and Caleb was able to step up into the pocket and take off when he needed to or get the football out of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I think is a huge, huge, huge improvement over what Caleb did last year, which was hold on to the football and really hunt for the big play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, as he's a second-round pick, he's also a natural right tackle, so I think in the future, that's where his position is going to be at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They tried to put him there and left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ben Johnson was pretty coy throughout training camp and heading into the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at the end of the day, it sounds like it didn't go well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, old and crutes were always making an example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And guys, like, how long they're always saying, you know, if you've been wiping your butt, your whole life with your right hand, it's really hard to just go ahead and start wiping it for the first time with your left hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's where you are with Aussie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think as you look at Donna Wright, not this year, but going into the office isn't in the next year, a couple of things, someone won, he's your most athletic, offensive wife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's your most blue chip, offensive wife met this point, Joe Tune, he's a little up in age, at this point, he's been very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Donna Wright also wants to make a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's due for some new paper sooner than later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is going to want to and accept the challenge of moving to the left side in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think next year you're going to see Dona right be your left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As he be you're starting right tackle and obviously we've seen the end of the of the Brassum Jones experiment experience in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't pull a guy in the second quarter of a game like that and think you're going to go back to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to see Phil for the most part and let's see
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[SPEAKER_01]: like a complete abomination, be the left tackle for the rest of the season, don't write your right tackle, you know, as he will back him up, and then he off season, you're going to flip it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's a credit, it's the coaching staff, right, like this, he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was more proactive than I think the last guy was reactive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's been the tune.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This entire season is so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a small sample size for games, but Ben Johnson is not afraid to shake things up be more proactive and put his team in a position to win the football game when they need to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I even think about the last drive in the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, you think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the Raider the the kick is blocked right but he would have had let's say the kick goes through he would have 38 seconds left on the clock and two time outs and I feel very confident that he would have been like kill wheels would have been able to go down the field and get
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[SPEAKER_01]: them in fielgo range and kick a walk off fielgo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just not something I could have said last year with Matt Everfields.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even though they got the block and they sort of secure the win on that, he still was thinking ahead and say, listen, I need to preserve time for my quarterback, preserve time for my kicker or keep these timeouts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've already walked on the field on the once already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could do this again, even if this kick goes through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: good and growing head coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So dude, I do he made mistakes in week one with clock management.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's already gotten better through games later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's an important fact, right, Ross, when you think about between this and last year, when you see that there's time left, two minutes, whatever it was, a minute and a half, I think, for the Raiders to go down the field,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you allow that kickoff return that was 40 plus yards, whatever you're like, here we go again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like Avery Flue's where they're able to just lose these games late.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think coaching goes a long way, especially when you think about how Al Harris has been handling the defensive backs and Kyla Gordon's been out and just losing jail and Johnson is huge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of figuring out the scheme, you know, Geno Smith, maybe not the best example, and take that Detroit game out of it, but figuring out how to get these wins when you need them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ben Johnson, you know, it's interesting, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he did the, he did the thing that he thought was right in Benching Braxton Jones, and it eventually paid off and, you know, going forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be telling to see how that plays out, of course, with Benadette and Trepeo and and Durnal right I love that scenario talking about Durnal right move to the left side potentially an Aussie trapeo on the right that's what you draft Trepeo for to be a part of this starting unit going forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Ben Johnson, you know, kind of under fire, and I think he handled it really well this week and maybe another coach wouldn't have as well with CBS's, you know, silent report at the beginning of the second half he looked a little Kurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, you know, just, it was loud and he couldn't hear was the way that I interpreted it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I think, uh, it was like a manual out show or someone like that was saying, you know, it's a bad look for him talking over her, but it was loud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He misheard her basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, quote, I'm a little disappointed with how that looks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hear her very well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not excuse what was the question I took as being told.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to change the offense was kind of what she said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she owned up to it on on on another show that program that today, just talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was kind of on both ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just an awkward interview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, him ultimately saying I have to be better with those things going forward is just, you know, Mark of of a coach who's learning got his first road victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's big, 800th franchise win for the Bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's big for this football team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you thought about it was a must win as we talked about and we hate to kind of throw that cliche around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but going into the by week, you know what you have to work on, um, obviously getting healthy speaks for itself and figuring out your offensive line to get some consistency for Caleb Williams is so paramount, um, but you know, when you go into another road game right off the by week on Monday night football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When it was that same team where it was kind of a tipping point last year and just sent you into a nine game skitter, whatever that was, you want to get that really badly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now these guys get to reset and again going back credit to Caleb Williams showing poise, as much as it's called by Ben Johnson and the other offensive coaching staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he has to execute out there on 11 play drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was well called the best call drive of the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mixed it up and and you know, hopefully they figure out those things again the running game very important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to fix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not having a genty back there, Jamira Gibbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have downdress whip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to do what you can do between him and Kyle and
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[SPEAKER_00]: those little things will add up as the competition certainly gets tougher and it's going to be a long second half of the season when you get to buy week this early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that by week, I think comes out a perfect time, right?
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they were, you know, credit, you talk about coaching credit that doesn't finish out.
21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's done a solid job right now with you see the guys that they're putting back there in the second area.
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just absolutely depleted and somehow some way they were able still be in position to have
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: three turnovers from Janice Smith, three interceptions, which was huge, and they now have nine takeaways on the season, which is third and the end of fall right now.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when you look at the defense, that's missing Jalen Johnson, that's missing color Gordon, that's missing TJ Edwards,
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think for them to be able to pull that off, they didn't have a greedy Jared on Sunday as well.
22:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still really impressive.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, these guys can get healthy.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm expecting coming off the by week, you have Kyle Gordon back.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have TJ Edwards back.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think greedy Jared will be back.
22:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And you start to get more reinforcements.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jalen is going to be out for a while.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, you know, so that's credit to Dennis Allen and Al Harris for coaching these guys up.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Also credit the tire Steve's who look like barbecue chicken in week one, and we all remember what happened to him last year in Washington, I think he's been ball and ever since, you know, obviously he didn't look good either in Detroit, but these last two games he's like really, really good.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And he had another key turnover on Sunday as well, your first first turnover.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's also credit to coaching staff for
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: staying on him, keeping him motivated, keeping him poised and keeping him locked in, and I think he's responding very well.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, usually you don't want to see it early by week, but I think for where they're at right now, they've got a couple things to fix, they've got to get healthy, they've got to figure out this left tackle situation, they've got to get in the lab, they've got to retweet this runny game to get that thing going, and it's just a good mental physical
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: probably needed, it's a young quarterback.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He started to feel it a little bit, but I think it's a good break for him, especially going back into a house of horrors from where he remembers last year in Washington.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also, it's a home game for Caleb, but he's from the DMB area.
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know he's gonna be extra amped up for that.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably gonna get Jaden Danes back too, so you're gonna get going back to that one versus two situation, those guys are gonna be
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: pitted against each other for the next 10-plus years.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think what I saw from that that Raiders, what I saw from the victory on Sunday with the Raiders is a team starting to come together and believe in each other.
24:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You can see it, you can feel it, even what you said with the long snap was a hey Josh, he's moving like everybody is just starting to kind of pick each other up a little bit and really come together.
24:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's important.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We're starting to buy into this coaching staff and they're starting to believe most importantly that they've been winning football games.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think they had that last year.
24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's starting to change you.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys, if you get guys buying in and you get the better, it's like, buyer who are really bawling now, it's got to tell you better.
24:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if, I don't know, all of the sudden they're feeding off his energy and things like that.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the sudden you're like, okay, we're starting to build a foundation of a team that could be really good within the next couple of years.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hopefully they can win anywhere between.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: eight to ten games this year, but you're really starting to kind of stack it and go for next year.
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last thing is I think Kail Williams just started to look really comfortable and really poised in the football field.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got full command of this offense right now.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got full command of that huddle.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks really good when he's when he's back there in the pocket.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Max Crosby was all over the place on Sunday.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he had that wondering reception that was bad up in the year, but on all, Caleb only took one sack and I think that's just growth as well from what you've seen over the last year.
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So arrows pointing up, good mental reset, physical reset for them, also good reset for various fans because there's been a very stressful for games already.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So enjoy football this weekend.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have any stress about your team.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look, if you pick ahead to the schedule,
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, vulnerable games out there.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some teams out there.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: When you talk about how bad that the bears are, you've got watching to them the schedule coming up.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're being done.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And McLean is being done.
25:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You and I will be in Baltimore in a few weeks.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They're on the schedule.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: The March action might miss a few weeks with the injury.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They're defense right now.
26:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's decimated all-you-know-all programs of tackle.
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all-you-know-all programs.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Cleveland is on the schedule soon, and you see what they're going through, you're going through the Saints around the schedule, the Giants just lost neighbors for the season, they're coming up as well.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So all of a sudden, you're like, there's some wonderful games on this schedule coming up here, and the bearers have to take full advantage of it.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: When you have that extra time to prepare for Washington, I 100% agree.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Just yeah, picking at the stats, you talk about Caleb Williams and, you know, eight touchdowns to 200 sessions is almost at a thousand yards.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He's pretty much on pace for that 4,000 yards.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You figure you'll even get more comfortable as the season goes on.
26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about Roma dunes as far as receiving goes almost 300 yards.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Averaging almost 15 yards, a catch, five touchdowns,
26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you, you would think we didn't really talk about Cole Comet, he had those two fall starts is pretty bad.
27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He had some key catches very mixed.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he had a lot of pressure because Lovelins not out there, um, you would hope that Colston Lovelin comes out swinging and he becomes, you know, even more involved in the offense, um, you know, in terms of.
27:18
[SPEAKER_00]: him and we didn't really mention Luther burdens name once during that game, so it's kind of back and forth you figure those guys those rookies are going to need more time to get settled in.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you talked about Byrd, Ben Johnson was saying, good, better best.
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It was Byrd on defense, Caleb Williams on offense and then Josh Black will get in that special teams block.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a whole team effort.
27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: completely necessary to get that win.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: When you pretty much kept Crosby in check, you know, in that second half, but say for a few plays, we're, you know, killed running for his life.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the defense without TJ Edwards, the color orton without greedy Jared.
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think played pretty well.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, forging, you know, Smith, you know, Smith just giving the bears every opportunity.
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: His genosmith does with these, these interceptions.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just going to sling it.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But now you figure you need to see a pass for us.
28:16
[SPEAKER_00]: As you talked about, Jayden Day, and you're probably going to be healthy, probably going to be ready for that game against the bears on a Monday night.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But Terry McLean's banged up at Felix Washington.
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not the same team with momentum is last year and you're seeing, seeing on top of injury, a little bit of a slump from Jaden Daniels.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the rest that schedule is looking pretty fair with these teams that are trending down when you got some some terrible teams in the, in the Saints.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The Ravens, as you mentioned, trending down the Bengals going to be without Joe Burrow for a while till like December the Giants and then you get into that.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: a tough, you know, final, whatever it is, eight games stretch where it'll be real rough.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you can build some momentum off Washington, it's, it's going to be huge.
28:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And to get these guys healthy, who TJ Edwards practice today, kind of Gordon practice today, you're going to get lovelin' back most likely and and don't know, right?
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: If you get that full compliment, it feels like they should be able to do that.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, you know, I, again, echo what you said about Ben Johnson and how different this is than last year with Aberflus and, and the wheels just completely fell off.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, largely because of the coaching, but just because of the whole team, you know, not executing, not finishing games, losing those close games all stemming from that.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, uh, yeah, excited to see how this team continues to evolve this offense.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Caleb Williams as advertised to feel like there's a lot of talk about Drake.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: May I, I feel like I saw a headline talking about he was playing the best of the quarterback from last year's draft, I'd like to see Caleb Williams obviously overtake that narrative.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at this point, you know, under this offense and the way he's built,
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: his comfort level and the decision making hit a couple, you know, that fumble that set him up at like 30 or whatever it was that went through his hands on a shotgun was pretty bad on on a fumble.
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he has been where has been mistake prone in the past, it feels like he is learning from his mistake.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's if you continue that learning curve that it's huge.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% and I think, you know, we are such a microwave society and we want, you know, we want our results now, but I, you know, what you're seeing is you're seeing tangible growth, we got to be from Caleb Williams, which is actually what you want.
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, new system, new head coach.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a questionable run game, questionable protection on the left side on the right side, things like that, and then we also remember, you know, the disaster last season, and then you look up, and this guy is on track right now, his career started in terms of touchdowns to interception ratio, it's the best, and from the first round, from the first overall pit ever.
31:04
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and so you start to remember, listen, the reason why these guys go first overall is because these teams suck, and like, and they're bad, and some of them are able to overcome it, right?
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you watch the Dallas Cowboys Doc on Netflix, it's a joy, but a few years, to get good.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't just show up and get good right away, and we know about Peyton Manning, I'm going to be an exception to get through to start his career.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: the beating that Andrew looked took and you know those are just the good ones that we've seen actually make it and be something, be Hall of Fame players.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of first overall picks that just don't have the resiliency and things like that.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my body's when people talk about kale whamms because he paints his nails or he does this or that, he wears colors or clothes.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of tough.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: and he's very resilient and he plays every game, he gets up after every hit and I think he's really starting to figure some things out.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be very fun to see what he looks like in the second quarter of the season and then certainly in the back after season when things get really, really spooky in terms of a structural standpoint.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And then even with the quarterback
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think hopefully we can get to a point where we can stop pitting these young men against each other.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And even that's, you know, from Caleb to Drake and me to Jamie Daniels,
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a subject you can't get him to get his ass out of here, but hopefully we can start, you know, because the lead needs all of these guys to succeed to be able to to keep the torch going.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't have Joe Burrow right now, right?
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's just guys that are banged up right now and hurt and and.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there are guys that we have lost from generations past and Aaron Rogers is kind of the last man standing from that.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So we need as many good quarterbacks as possible, especially if you watch football game last night, I watched two games last night.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to watch two a tongue of our lower versus Justin Fields, which is brutal and then you flip to the other TV and it's bow next versus Jake Browning.
33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, oh.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is just so depressing.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So we need some of these guys.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You hopefully may Caleb and Daniels are the future and kind of send to being perennial purple players because that's only gonna make me think better.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: up there you slander bone x his name all now 300 plus yards to touch dance fantasy monster it is the sisters of the poor defense x a that's sure he's playing some crash competition this bangles team of that rubber just on unwatchable they're going up in a couple weeks for the bears so they can still be back 11-2 games whatever on your birthday
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: take advantage of that.
33:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I go to go to another road game for real.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, helps JK Dobbins helping out there.
34:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, yeah, I mean, I think to the point about these quarterbacks and narrative of them, they're it's the nature of competition.
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And we just need to.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the media likes to just compare and see, you know, who is going to be this face face going forward without jade on Daniels in that conversation at models that I feel like.
34:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I think make good for him because, you know, he was in a similar position last year.
34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed to be really thrown to the wolves all these guys, you know, that would save for Jane Daniels.
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like just really.
34:37
[SPEAKER_00]: high hopes and underperforming to that end, but Caleb Williams, you see it play after playman with the putting it all together in the accuracy, the arm strength, if he can put it all together consistently going forward.
34:51
[SPEAKER_00]: with the full compliment of talent around him, he should be far away that best amongst that competition.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully at that conversation of who's going to be that next Pat Mahomes or those guys in that conversation, Jalen Hertz, these guys who are winning titles right now.
35:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So Bears getting that rest at the right time, no other real notes on that for me.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams, again, just so young at 23 and just feeling like,
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: very positively about him and his his performance in this bears team as a whole Ben Johnson.
35:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see them see a team.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if it will be Washington, but just dominate a game like smack him in the mouth right away.
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't the time or place with the Raiders, but certainly must have been.
35:37
[SPEAKER_00]: real fun for bears fans out in that environment when it was pretty competitive just from the onset at first quarter was so nuts with the turnovers and then the finish it just had everything you could want a really nice stadium but but get the rest they need now and and don't get into trouble for the younger guys and and on to Washington on another Monday night game.
35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you take any win, you can get at this point in the league.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: However, you can get them.
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a great team win on Sunday.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: My last note, speaking on the halftime interview situation and just been in general, he's on the sidelines.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like he's, you know, there's a meme going around.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need to say smiling salts and shout out to Jacob and Dante.
36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw his post on that found it so up on TikTok today and it said Ben Johnson, Cycle Pat.
36:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Never change.
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Never change.
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That is exactly what the fan base loves.
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the team feeds off a bit.
36:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of what you want from your head coach.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You want some energy.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You want some passion.
36:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he did anything wrong in that interview.
36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It was loud in there like you said.
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He misheard her.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He thought that she was coming after his team.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And he responded by
36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: defending his team.
36:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
36:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He apologized.
36:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a grown man.
36:55
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a grown woman.
36:56
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a professional.
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody is okay.
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't need to be some big.
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a radio segment on it the next day out of my name.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I could God.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I would be doing here.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We were all adults at this point.
37:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.
37:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And I never wanted to change his demeanor and how he is on game day because I think that's important.
37:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that football team fees often and they need it when he screams good better vests and everything at the end, like when they win a football game, he's like, how would you not get you stuck as a fan and as a player that your head coach has his kind of passion?
37:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that I like that point too, especially I haven't been.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't been as infectious for a long time.
37:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back to Matt Nagy and his boom celebration of the locker rooms.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just was a fiery guy, you know, what Ben Johnson brings to the table now.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, different head coaching personalities.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's figuring out his personality as it goes along.
37:55
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, it's forgotten now.
37:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's in the past at this point.
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: As a week four, I wouldn't say forgotten.
38:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like you mentioned with Malik neighbors getting hurt for the giants, just rough to see these injuries to star players.
38:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad for the league's bad for certainly the giants when
38:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it seemed like they were going to get rolling and maybe have jacks and dart and have some success going forward and then to lose him is awful and then Tyrik Hill with the most Rusem injury so far with his, which confirmed to be a torn ACL that he had operated on today.
38:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think and agents as he's fine playing 20 26, but I mean, that's the type of injury.
38:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it'd be here is shout out to Mason.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So I could say the grid iron host of bare bones, what he would have to sound an injury like this, and his ligament damage and everything that goes into it when he's he's built for speed.
38:50
[SPEAKER_00]: The cheat is not getting any younger, too.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But brutal again for the dolphins getting getting that win and then getting your your star received receiver lost for the year.
39:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, like you said, the jets are just
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So garbage and it's great as an athlete is just in fields is he just can't wield them to a win as they're Owen for and at the bottom of the league they're just in that same conversation as the Titans who couldn't put up any points against the Titans this past week.
39:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You talk about the Browns and how bad they are and they're just at this point, doing themselves a disservice when you're putting you know,
39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: 40 at this point or I don't know 40 something he's old and and you're not you know I don't know if shooters the answer I don't know if one of these other guys in the conversation who's Gabriel as he's still on the roster like I mean yeah well so at that to that end I think it's about time and you're only again doing yourselves a disservice if you don't just try them out there and see what you have a quarterback the Saints
39:55
[SPEAKER_00]: no direction whatsoever and got beat of course by a super well-containing team in the bills.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But you love to see them come to Soldier Field in a couple weeks.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You weeks but you know the tops of the league I mean don't look now but the Steelers are three and one and that weird Dublin game and old man Aaron Rogers got it done in the early game but the bills unstoppable I think you know the lions showing us that they haven't lost a step
40:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, charges drop in their first to the giants as we talked about Eagles going into a tough game and a tough environment against the Buccaneers win in 31 to 25 and and as bad as this passing game is they're just getting it done through defense and
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I suppose the running game and mostly defense and turnovers, but, you know, the Colts and the Rams was a great one, too, and both those teams kind of sneaky good.
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And we knew the Colts were good going into this with the Rams.
40:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look now.
40:50
[SPEAKER_00]: They're making a run with Matt Stafford throwing for almost 400 yards, the 49ers.
40:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They can just get healthy.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They're three and one team at the Jaguards with three and one.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They got a win that was much needed and you saw, are you taking in the fight, Liam Cohen or Robert Sala?
41:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Robert Sala is Hitman is kids going at it.
41:13
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw the chiefs in the Ravens 37 to 20 the chiefs Two and two, but perhaps they're back home, so on for four touchdowns and then man
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Ross, do we need to change this over time room rule or what?
41:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like 40 to 40 and then we just we have to end it after one over time just feels nuts to me.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: My fantasy team thinks the NFL for that's, but but if those two teams state how I would have lost.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nuts to me that we still are in 2025 and we can end in a tie.
41:52
[SPEAKER_01]: they don't.
41:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I may as in true older millennial fashion, I was firing with the old rule, which was, you know, the old rule was whatever scored for us in the game.
42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, I thought deep as this special team was a part of the game as well.
42:06
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want them to score or you stop them, but I was firing that that the compromise was, you go touch down games over.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: fuel goal, then the other team gets to have a touchdown to win the game and that kind of thing.
42:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So this new rule, I don't like it.
42:24
[SPEAKER_01]: If anything, if I were to change anything to it, I think that the 10 minutes is too short of a mile time because if a day goes out of my six-minute drive, then that's it.
42:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to eat up all the time.
42:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I make that at least 12 minutes, maybe preferably 15 minutes.
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing that I would really change is at least if you're going to go this route, change the amount of time.
42:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was the most exciting game from the week I had fun.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm usually in bed on a Sunday night by 9 o'clock.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I could not turn that off.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I stayed up and watched a whole thing and shout out to the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were able to get a tie out of that when everybody thought that they were going to get smoked when my apartment was came back to Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, if you're green Bay fan, it's disappointing, you know, a tie is like kissing your sister, but also on a Tuesday night, you're used to kissing your sister
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[SPEAKER_01]: No!
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[SPEAKER_00]: the hell of a Tuesday night in Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not that in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked it, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get some laughter for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like you said, I mean, over time, we're all aside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both these teams just offensive machines during this whole course of that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Jordan loved the legend grows three touchdowns in deck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Press got without CD lamb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: George Picking stepped in big time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this is that that time of year where you're seeing sort of contenders pretenders and it'll be interesting to see in, you know, December what what these teams are doing at this point because there's several three and one teams, you know, the seahawks and you can throw the Steelers in there you could throw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the chargers, cults, rams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like 49ers, Jaguars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not sure if they're quite for real, or if this is gonna last, based on kind of early on projections at this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what is certain is that the Eagles and the Bills,
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[SPEAKER_00]: know that they are favorites and plain like that to win both their conferences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What Josh Allen is doing, he just makes it look easy, whatever's out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The defense really picking things up as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the Eagles,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What they're able to do again, despite Jalen Hertz and AJ Brown, just not being happy with what else is doing to Montes Smith not getting involved, perhaps a more down year for Sake Juan Barclay winning these games to being undefeated the way they've been playing so far is is really nuts to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know what what you think about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or tenders and contenders at this point outside of those guys, Russell, let you chime in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that was it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a huge win for the chiefs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the chiefs pulled the ravens, took their foot off the gas in the second half, if they had to be near there, if they're going to get blown out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's clear that ravens are the year from hell team this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year was the 49ers with all the injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year, it's the ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet to start to wonder,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If at some point, they just kind of take their foot off the gas on the season all together and maybe they put them a more on ice a little bit longer and to say, you know what it's just not our year and we're going to just kind of let the season go out and kind of, you know, look our wounds and y'all season and go back again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Big one for the Jaguar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought going on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Brock pretty got back in there and they were able to get a part return TD from from Washington, which is huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought at the end was awesome for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That point nine is deep friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a little shaky, especially down the stretch there and then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to me, you know, the titans, you start looking at head coaches getting fired and Brian County and you should probably, you should probably call Redfin and start to put your house on the market in the Nashville area because class thick and big, you are all in for right now, you got shit out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: shut out 26 to nothing by the by the Texans team who was really struggling coming into this camor 10 for 26, 108 yards, one in reception, zero touchdowns and you only had two rushes for 22 yards and you spent a first overall pick on a guy like that and you get those kind of numbers coming back
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you talk about coaching and like with, you know, with number first or all, first or all picks up the go through, this is a complete microcosm of the exact wrong thing you want, your first or all picked it do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I expect Kellyanne to maybe get fired in season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, he's definitely going to get fired in your off season, but the Titans right now are struggling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You sort of look around the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Titans, jets, browns, saints, it's like, if you put all those teams together, can they combine pretend to 12 wins this year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the league is very...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bottom heavy this year, I was gonna say top every.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're very bottom heavy this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are some bad bad football teams out there and that this could go on for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, some of these teams could start off or when eight or when nine and before they, some of them do have to eventually face each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So somebody's gonna win, but it's gonna be rough this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you do need a quarterback, like the Saints do, like the Browns do, you can watch them college football this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That ain't looking too pretty either, because there's not one guy that's standing out from a quarterback prospect that you would want to take potentially in the top three this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's it's a bleak right now for some teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: valid point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just awful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, just no, not a ton of positives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you think about the Giants, Jackson, Dart, maybe they'll start, you know, even losing league neighbors, Wondil Robinson could pick it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Came Skatabo has been a great pick up for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's a dog and between.
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[SPEAKER_00]: him and Jackson Dart, they could have some fire going in and some winnable games going forward, but, but the Saints really awful, the Titans, again, with Cam Ward, quite a disappointment, just garbage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get to see a couple of those teams play here, the Giants and the Saints, you know, matching up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's pretty awful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Vikings and Browns this week in the London game, we always need a London game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the 49ers and Rams will be must see TV, of course, and then you figure again bad games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cowboys, you know, stinging from that tie, they should go and eat the jets pretty handily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One would think, Dolphins and Panthers are realing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of like poor games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly like Texan's Ravens, you figure, you know, one of these teams,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They really want the win and you know, we'll see who does a better CJ strad off to a pretty poor start and a little more jacks and if he doesn't play, it's you're going to give the edge to Houston when we think here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Up C Hawks that best afternoon game, I feel like at this point, and then a good Sunday night or Patriots bills and then Chiefs Jaguars actually with some good potential at this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a good slate, I, again, just stand by the bills and the eagles as far as the favorites in this conference says it's been fun to see the AFC who's been stepping up, you know, when the chiefs have struggled like this to see, again, the Jaguar is kind of make a resurgence under Liam Cohen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it just not the calls and how if then off to a hot start with Daniel Jones and a new new spot It's impressive then you get those buys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's you know four teams on a buys all of a sudden here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're gonna have to adjust to that if you're If you lost in the league neighbors and and you lost, you know Tyre Kale you're gonna get some bad trade offers just just expected if you're a fantasy football team owner man
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: or you're putting in, waiver claims tomorrow for Wanda Robinson and a bunch of other guys already had him stash baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, that out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this week you get potentially if Jayden Daniels comes back, three second year quarterbacks on the road against tough defenses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's what I'm gonna be looking out for.
50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Go Nick's in Philly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless, big dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jamie Dayos, if he plays, he's going to be against chargers, which, you know, that's a pretty spicy defense as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, I'm actually kind of excited for the Sunday night game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get Drake May in Buffalo, him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo's deep process year, they've been scored on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the right now, the bills are favored by seven and a half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw the Saints being able to hang in there for about three and a half quarters this past Sunday and Saints stink.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the Patriots are playing better football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he Drake may kind of keep in that game post a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, can they slow down Josh down the other side?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That guy is looking like he's probably going to go back to the back of the game in the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: unbelievable performance by Josh Allen so far on the note of the last note I got is of course Benito and bad bunny getting a nod to go to the Super Bowl half-time show to headline the Super Bowl half-time show where to Rico rejoice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who I mean who would have been second to bad bunny and just as far as
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the pop culture, uh, I don't know, man, like I don't want to see Taylor Swift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really want to see Sabrina Carpenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bad bunny brings it, um, he's collaborated with a lot of good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, yeah, I think it's a no-brainer for the NFL and, and great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's one of the biggest artists worldwide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the most stream artists in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've ever watched a or seen clips from a bad bunny concert, they got to pack stadiums, 110,000 people in celebrating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say this, you don't even have to know Spanish to enjoy his music, put the music on, he is super, super talented from his singing ability, his rapping ability, but it's just catchy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes you feel good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody that's like, I don't like Bad Bunny, I promise you, you've never even actually given a chance and played the music.
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, this is not a ad, Amazon doesn't pay us, but they should.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is a Bad Bunny concert on Amazon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just put it on, just put it on, watch him put on the show that he puts on, watch how people respond to it, and you start to realize, you know, this guy does deserve that opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, to all the people that didn't watch Carmen San Diego out there, didn't pay attention and, and,
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[SPEAKER_01]: fourth grade geography, Puerto Rico is a part of the United States folks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a territory of the United States.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a part of this country which means it is a part of our culture and should be celebrated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a person who is also Puerto Rican, I can tell you Puerto Rican also often feel slight at how Americans routinely keep them out of American culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Puerto
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[SPEAKER_01]: is American culture and it should be celebrated and I'm happy to see him get this opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, Taylor Swift, the word was, she turned it down because she could not get to her in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I created differences which means she wanted, she wanted to do what she wanted to do in the NFL so we couldn't do that and she's like, I'm Taylor Swift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do what I want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I heard the backup was Adele, which I think Adele is an extraordinary singer, but she doesn't do anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't dance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she's dancing at the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, neither of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all all credit to those talented ladies, but uh, but bad Bunny, he's bringing it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see that bunny shows up during Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be about eight models deep, 16 chicken wings, three shots, and every you're going to be dancing your ass off to some bad bunny music when you're able.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Moving on, we just have a ton of classes that are blessed and all of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'm very pumped to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't understand all the Spanish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a great production behind him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say that it's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And on that note, he's hosting Saturday Night Live, which premieres this Saturday Day, what don't you get?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he'll be able to, it was just crazy that he gets a music guest for for himself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can speak English, by the way, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy's been in movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done everything he wants to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you're not going to see a better movie all year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how that is the movie of the year that is top three PTA, Paul Thomas Anderson, extraordinary performances from Leo to B. D. S. Del Toro, T. Taylor's in the movie, which you know, Hall is in the movie shop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's probably going to want to ask her for the movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you find yourselves out there two hours or 45 minutes of your time,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please go see one battle off to another in movie theaters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is worth it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See on the biggest screen possible seeing an iMacs if you can it is an absolutely extraordinary movie that is very fitting for the time as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to give away the platform and goes on but it is a trailer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a masterpiece.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jason Finity and one of her first leading roles a young starland from Columbia or went to Columbia College from Indianapolis, but excited to love that as I will be seeing it soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Packed it all in this show.
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