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Ken Rosenthal's Inside Scoop: NL East trade race, Angels selling soon? Padres quiet star bats · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Let's hit the inside scoop with the FT senior insider
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal. So, Ken, let's talk about trades and starting pitching.
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Speaker 1: I have a question for you and it relates to
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Speaker 1: the two teams we're going to bring up first. So
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Speaker 1: I love when teams are like, oh, yeah, we're not
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Speaker 1: really looking for pitching. You're not looking for pitching until
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Speaker 1: you are right. We just talked about how Aaron Nola
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Speaker 1: had another bad outing, and for the Braves, they've had
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Speaker 1: their rotation kind of fall apart quickly among other ball clubs.
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Speaker 1: But let's start with the NL East and those two teams.
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on how this is shaping up right now,
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Speaker 1: this race and how it could affect their trade deadline plans.
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Speaker 2: Matt Gilban Charlotte Varnes of The Athletic have already reported
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Speaker 2: Scott about the Phillies search for more of a back
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Speaker 2: end starter swing type, a person or pitcher who could
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Speaker 2: pitch in long relief and also give you occasional spot starts.
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Speaker 3: That would seem to be enough for them.
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Speaker 2: They have three great starters, of course, in Sanchez.
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Speaker 3: And Wheeler and Lozarto. Nola struggling obviously.
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Speaker 2: So maybe now they need a little bit more than
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Speaker 2: what they thought initially. But that type of pitcher that
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Speaker 2: they described to Matt and Charlotte would have been the
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Speaker 2: replacement for Painter, or theoretically was the replacement for Painter.
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Speaker 2: They haven't acquired that picture yet, but that is what
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Speaker 2: they were looking for. The question with them now becomes, Okay,
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Speaker 2: do you need maybe someone a little bit more established
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Speaker 2: as well as that swing type.
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Speaker 3: So that's the Phillies.
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Speaker 2: The Braves are in a different place because right now,
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Speaker 2: and Mark Bowman of MLB dot Com put this really
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Speaker 2: well the other day, you start a playoff service with
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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves right now, Chris Selle, of course pitches
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Speaker 2: game one. Martin Perez would probably be game two at
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Speaker 2: this moment. And he's a guy they DFA, they re
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Speaker 2: signed him. He's not anyone's idea of a game to starter. Necessarily.
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Speaker 2: Lewis pitched quite well this year. Bryce Elder has regressed,
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Speaker 2: Grant Holmes has done hey, but he's a guy with
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Speaker 2: the potential for injury at any time. He has an
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Speaker 2: UCL issue. I believe that he's kind of just maintaining
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Speaker 2: things with and while they've got Smith Shavor coming on
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Speaker 2: a rehab assignment and Hurston Wald rep and they.
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Speaker 3: Have some pieces.
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Speaker 2: They clearly need what they talked about getting in the
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Speaker 2: off season, which is a starting pitcher who could start
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Speaker 2: a playoff game. They need that more urgently now than
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Speaker 2: they did even in the offseason when we didn't know
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Speaker 2: yet that some of the pictures they had Schwellenbach, Strider,
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Speaker 2: et cetera would be injured.
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Speaker 4: Is that gonna speed And I feel like I asked
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Speaker 4: you this every other week, but is that gonna speed
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Speaker 4: up the timing? And you always say that's just gonna
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Speaker 4: be like right until the end. But you talked about
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Speaker 4: a team in the Phillies who wants maybe like a
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Speaker 4: four or five, a back end type of person that
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Speaker 4: feels like, Okay, I'm gonna go and get that at
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Speaker 4: you know, at any time and we'll get three extra starts.
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Speaker 4: Will any of this speed up the timing of these moves,
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Speaker 4: especially since they're both in the East and it's like
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Speaker 4: we could be vine for the same person.
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Speaker 3: Eric, It's not out of the question.
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Speaker 2: And just look to last week when the Cubs acquired
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Speaker 2: David Peterson.
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Speaker 3: From the Mets.
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Speaker 2: He is not a front of the rotation guy at
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Speaker 2: this point. He is not someone you would necessarily count
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Speaker 2: on to start a playoff game, but can he get
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Speaker 2: you through the season, which is what we're talking about
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Speaker 2: with the Phillies in particular, but also the Braves. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's that kind of pitcher. So I would not be
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Speaker 2: shocked to see either one of these teams, particularly the Braves,
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Speaker 2: make that kind of move. But you're not going to
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Speaker 2: see Freddy Parolta traded in the next two weeks. You're
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Speaker 2: not going to see Cheric Scoogle traded.
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Speaker 3: In the next two weeks.
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Speaker 2: Those deals, the bigger ones would come closer to the deadline.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Ken, I want to take you to the Angels,
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Speaker 1: and you know you covered this on fair territory in
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Speaker 1: terms of the actual move, miss alac Perry, whatever, I
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Speaker 1: want to go to the trade assets. Do you think
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Speaker 1: that this ups the percentage chance that a team like
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Speaker 1: the Angels get it's more aggressive with their deals, And
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Speaker 1: this is a team that we already know is out
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Speaker 1: of it, So maybe this is a team that does
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Speaker 1: some flyers a little bit early. It seems like the
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Speaker 1: Giants are doing that too on the National League side,
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Speaker 1: So curious what you think this could look like with
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Speaker 1: someone who I think will be a little tougher with
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Speaker 1: those ahead of him, right president and owner being like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. This why you
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Speaker 1: brought me in? Did you get that feel at all?
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Speaker 1: From what Mozzelac said with Moreno, he's too much of
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Speaker 1: a fan.
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Speaker 2: He kind of said, Scott, you're asking me to read
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Speaker 2: Artie Moreno's mind, and that is something that I'm clearly
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Speaker 2: not capable of doing. I don't know that anyone is,
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Speaker 2: maybe even his own wife. So seriously, I don't know
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Speaker 2: what they're going to do. And it's interesting to me
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Speaker 2: that they brought in John Mozzelac, who clearly is experienced
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Speaker 2: as a head of baseball operations. The three previous people
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Speaker 2: that Moreno hired for that job, Jerry Depoto, Billy Eppler,
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Speaker 2: and of course Perrimanezien, those guys were first time GM's.
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Speaker 2: Now the Poto had had like two months as an
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Speaker 2: interim with Arizona, but this is something of a departure
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Speaker 2: for them, and that is what is so intriguing about
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Speaker 2: the hiring of Mazaalak. Will it actually change their method
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Speaker 2: of operation? Now, what we know from the past is
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Speaker 2: that Artie Moreno does not like to sell, does not
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Speaker 2: like to rebuild, also does not like to spend enough
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Speaker 2: to put a quality product on the field.
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Speaker 3: So these teams, whoever the head of base operation.
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Speaker 2: Is, is inevitably caught in the middle.
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Speaker 3: They are inevitably caught in the middle.
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Speaker 2: And that's where the Angels have been now for quite
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Speaker 2: some time, and they haven't been very good at it,
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Speaker 2: because they really have not even been a mediocre team.
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Speaker 3: They've been a bad team.
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Speaker 2: So the question then becomes, well, Okay, what is it
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Speaker 2: going to be with this dynamic? And I don't know
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Speaker 2: that any of us can predict with any confidence what
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Speaker 2: Artie Moreno might be thinking.
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Speaker 3: Right, and let's say he is.
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Speaker 4: Let's say let's say Artie Moreno says, Okay, Monna, you're
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Speaker 4: gonna do what you do. I want you to make
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Speaker 4: this organization better. I trust you. It is obviously a theory.
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Speaker 4: Do they have somebody outside of the big the big
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Speaker 4: three that we're talking about Joe Adele, det Meers and
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Speaker 4: Jose Soriano, that a GM who's aggressive to really push
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Speaker 4: a plan that would help the organization move forward? To
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Speaker 4: the Angels have somebody like that.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I understanding to.
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Speaker 4: Trade somebody to trade outside of outside of a Dell.
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Speaker 2: Dak netto three more years of control after this one.
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Speaker 2: He's a shortstop, and most teams are relatively set at
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Speaker 2: short so that's not a move you seek. You often
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Speaker 2: see it the deadline position. Players are a little bit
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Speaker 2: more difficult in some cases to trade at the deadline,
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Speaker 2: except when a team a buyer has an obvious need.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know that there are many teams out
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Speaker 2: there where shortstop would be the position that they're trying
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Speaker 2: to upgrade. Most teams, not all. I'm sure I'm missing
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Speaker 2: someone is, or most teams are set at that position.
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Speaker 3: So Netta would be the guy.
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Speaker 2: But you've mentioned the ones that are the most intriguing,
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Speaker 2: and that would be Detmer's and Soriano. And those two
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Speaker 2: guys both left handed starters with two I'm sorry, both
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Speaker 2: starting pitchers not left handed necessarily, Soriano is not with
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Speaker 2: two years of additional control remaining. That is something that
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Speaker 4: All right, Well, the angels are out of it. In
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Speaker 4: a brutal American League. You wrote about how the Red
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Speaker 4: Sox are somehow in it. How do we evaluate the
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Speaker 4: American League and the teams that are actually in it?
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Speaker 4: Because the American League's not very good, and if you're
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Speaker 4: saying after a four game sweep, the Red Sox are
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Speaker 4: in it, I feel like everybody's got life.
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Speaker 3: Eric.
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Speaker 2: That was written a little bit tongue in cheek, and
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Speaker 2: I tried to make it as clear as possible for
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Speaker 2: the people out there who are quite serious and quite
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Speaker 2: literal often about what they're reading, and I had words
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Speaker 2: in there, like to think of them as a true
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Speaker 2: contender is kind of laughable. But some people still didn't
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Speaker 2: quite get it. What I was saying is that when
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Speaker 2: a team like the Red Sox suddenly plays a little
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Speaker 2: bit better, their roster is a little bit better place,
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Speaker 2: actually a much better place in some respects, and they're
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Speaker 2: four and a half games out in the wildcard in
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Speaker 2: a bad league.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can dream.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Are the Red.
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Speaker 2: Sox based on one week and that's what this is?
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Speaker 2: Actually it's five days, four against the Yankees, one against
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Speaker 2: the Nationals. Are they ready to be declared an absolute contender?
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Speaker 3: The answer to that, of course, is no.
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Speaker 2: But would you say that the six teams ahead of them,
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Speaker 2: including Seattle, the one holding the wildcard spot the third
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Speaker 2: one currently are that much better and are that loaded themselves. No,
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Speaker 2: you would not say that either every one of those teams.
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Speaker 2: Look below these standings, that those are the actual Ale
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Speaker 2: East standings. But if you look at the wildcard standings
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Speaker 2: and who is in that? Okay, here we go, right Houston, Minnesota, Toronto,
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Speaker 2: the A's there.
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Speaker 3: None of these teams is exactly set in the world
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Speaker 3: on fire.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the team holding the third wildcard spot in
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Speaker 2: the American League right now is a five hundred team.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about a league that only has six teams
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Speaker 2: with positive run differentials, and three of them I believe
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Speaker 2: are plus ten or below. So anything is theoretically possible here.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I just had some fun with the
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Speaker 2: Red Sox today, because, hey, I have written twice now
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Speaker 2: that Craig Breslow the President base Bar Operations, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2: chief Baseball Officer.
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Speaker 3: The Red Sox have a different title.
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Speaker 2: I've written twice that he is likely to be gone,
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Speaker 2: and my first paragraph was only in the American League,
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Speaker 2: the ridiculous American League. Could this transform from a guy
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Speaker 2: who was effectively a sitting duck into a potential candidate
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Speaker 2: for Executive of the Year. It's theater of the absurd,
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Speaker 2: that is the point I was trying to make.
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Speaker 4: So those teams that you're just talking about, between between
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Speaker 4: the Mariners and the Red Sox, there's a lot of them. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: is there a team because when there's so much parody
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Speaker 4: in a certain league or in a certain race, what
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Speaker 4: if a team just says we're going out front and
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Speaker 4: we're going to do it. Is there a team that
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Speaker 4: could theoretically add to their mediocre or below average roster
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Speaker 4: and vault themselves out of that brutal, brutal group.
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Speaker 2: All of those teams could add, and as of now,
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Speaker 2: my belief or expectation is that all of those teams
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Speaker 2: want to add. Michaelias, the Oriols president base Operations, came
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Speaker 2: out a couple of days ago and said we want
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Speaker 2: to buy.
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Speaker 3: We intend to go for it. The Oriols have been.
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Speaker 2: Less than inspiring, to say the least, this season, and
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Speaker 2: yet that is his point of view, and they're at
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Speaker 2: the bottom of that group actually, So I would expect
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Speaker 2: all of those teams, at least for now, to be
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Speaker 2: in the mentality of we want to upgrade our rosters. Now,
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Speaker 2: some are different than others. Houston historically has gone for
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Speaker 2: it right and historically has been successful.
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Speaker 3: I would expect.
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Speaker 2: Dana Brown, in the final year of his contract, the
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Speaker 2: general manager is going to want to be under an
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Speaker 2: owner who always wants to win, going to be aggressive. Now,
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Speaker 2: the one team that's really interesting, and we talked about
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Speaker 2: them a little bit on Fair Territory yesterday, the Minnesota Twins.
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Speaker 3: For all this talk of Joe.
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Speaker 2: Ryan and even Ryan Jeffers Buxton to a lesser extent,
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Speaker 2: this is a team that's played better than expected, a
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Speaker 2: team that, under a new leadership with Tom Pohlad taken control,
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Speaker 2: wants to not go backwards again but go forward and
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Speaker 2: wants to upgrade.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Buxton got hurt last night, or at least was talked
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Speaker 2: about being injured last night, and that always is problematic
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Speaker 2: if that's serious.
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Speaker 3: But that's a team that I would think.
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Speaker 2: Might surprise some people, at least all of us who
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Speaker 2: have looked at them based on what they did last
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Speaker 2: year at the deadline as a likely seller.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's true anymore.
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Speaker 6: Well, now you've you kind of got towards the AL Central,
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Speaker 6: which I was going to turn it being a little
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Speaker 6: biased towards that anyways. But first off, are the Twins
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Speaker 6: just gonna go for it so they can make the
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Speaker 6: playoffs and then sell off the rest of the team? Again,
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Speaker 6: is that they're their main goal because that seems to
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Speaker 6: be their pattern. But I want to talk to about
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Speaker 6: Cleveland and the White Soxes here, who are playing well
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Speaker 6: above expected. I think they're playing great, but they just
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Speaker 6: got all these prospects from that Crochet trade that are
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Speaker 6: starting to pan out, that are starting to come up.
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Speaker 6: They're talking about going for it. Where do where are
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Speaker 6: they going to find these pieces to go for it?
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Speaker 6: What are they going to give up? And where's this
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Speaker 6: pitching going to come from? Because Cleveland, no team in
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Speaker 6: the AL Central is really built to run away with it.
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Speaker 6: Nobody's nobody's has the roster to kind of win that
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Speaker 6: hundred games and kind of just take over. So I think,
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Speaker 6: what kind of moves do you see coming in that division?
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Speaker 7: Alone?
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Speaker 2: Agree Jason that none of those teams looks like it's
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Speaker 2: running away. And from that perspective, if you're the White Sox,
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Speaker 2: I look at them a little bit differently than I've
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Speaker 2: looked at some of.
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Speaker 3: The other surprise teams, the Nationals, the Cardinals.
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Speaker 2: Those teams, in my opinion, the Nationals and Cardinals, they
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Speaker 2: don't want to buy.
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Speaker 3: They want to sell now they may.
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Speaker 2: End up having to buy because they're in a competitive
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Speaker 2: position that dictates it.
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Speaker 3: But that was.
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Speaker 2: Never their idea coming into the season. Wasn't the White
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Speaker 2: Sox idea either. But the White Sox are in a
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Speaker 2: weak division, as you mentioned, and they have in recent
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Speaker 2: years struggled mightily, to say the least, So they would
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Speaker 2: like to obviously honor what the current team is doing
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Speaker 2: and upgrade it if they can. The way to do
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Speaker 2: that bullpen needs help, but yeah, man, a veteran starter
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Speaker 2: to add to what they have, which isn't bad, would
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Speaker 2: really be impactful in my opinion anyway. So I see
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Speaker 2: them a little bit differently at least right now, than
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Speaker 2: I see the Nationals and Cardinals, because it seems.
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Speaker 8: Their hunger is a little bit greater to maybe just
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Speaker 8: get to the playoffs, which would be an amazing ACCOMPLI
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Speaker 8: Cleveland is a fascinating team, and I wrote about this.
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Speaker 3: I don't know it's about it.
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Speaker 2: Maybe a month six weeks ago, Jason, and what I
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Speaker 2: wrote was they could turn over their team quite a
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Speaker 2: bit over the months of June and July simply by
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Speaker 2: bringing up players from their farm system, and we've seen
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Speaker 2: it happen now Bazana, Khalil Watson, and Cooper Ingle.
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Speaker 3: They just added.
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Speaker 2: They keep bringing these guys up and they're probably just
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Speaker 2: in some ways Bazan is a fixture I would think
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Speaker 2: for years to come, but in some ways they're taking
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Speaker 2: a look and seeing what they have and where they
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Speaker 2: need to upgrade. The Guardians always seem to need offense.
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Speaker 2: This year is no different. They obviously need Jose Ramirez
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Speaker 2: back badly, and on Hell Martinez as well, but that
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Speaker 2: would be I would expect where they might look to upgrade,
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Speaker 2: But I don't know that they'll do much because they
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Speaker 2: are I don't want to say wedded to their internal options,
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Speaker 2: but they're committed to them away and this is why
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Speaker 2: they didn't do much last offseason. Now, the other reason
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Speaker 2: they don't do much in the off season is because
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Speaker 2: they don't typically spend money. But they have these guys
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Speaker 2: coming and there are more, so it's gonna be really
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Speaker 2: interesting to see how this team continues to evolve with
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Speaker 2: all of the young talent that they are capable of
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Speaker 2: incorporating ken Is.
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Speaker 4: There any glaring reason of why the superstars in San
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Speaker 4: Diego are all struggling for the most part? Is it
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Speaker 4: is it Craig Stammon. I feel like, how's the manager
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Speaker 4: gonna make all of them struggle? Is it a they
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Speaker 4: played too much? They've played too little? Is there something
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Speaker 4: that you can put your finger on?
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Speaker 3: I can't, and it isn't all of them.
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Speaker 2: Xander Bogarts has been pretty good, Tatise has come around.
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Speaker 2: Even Meryl's been a little bit better lately. I know
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Speaker 2: Manny is still kind of in a weird place, and
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Speaker 2: he too, has shown signs at various points of late,
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Speaker 2: but it's not the consistent Manny Machado we've seen for.
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Speaker 3: Years on end.
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Speaker 2: I can't put any one finger on it. And people
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Speaker 2: might say, well, what's with the hitting coach? And this
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Speaker 2: is the hitting coach new one, Steven Sousa, and maybe
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Speaker 2: he's in jeopardy because of all this. That's typically what
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Speaker 2: teams do, right, But at the same time, these are
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Speaker 2: players with long track records, not Merril so much, but
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Speaker 2: he's got something of a track record. And it's just
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Speaker 2: curious to me that they have not ignited, and I
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Speaker 2: kind of keep waiting for it to turn. I don't
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Speaker 2: believe Manny Machado is done by any stretch of the imagination,
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Speaker 2: and Jackson Merrill certainly is not done.
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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens here. That's a really interesting team.
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Speaker 2: At the deadline for any number of reasons. One because
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Speaker 2: of the way they've played, which has been disappointing. And
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Speaker 2: their biggest need, you would think, and really is starting pitching.
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Speaker 2: Because their position lineup is pretty good, they have some
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Speaker 2: areas they can go get.
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Speaker 3: Yes and upgrade.
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Speaker 2: But the other X factor is aj Preller where he
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Speaker 2: generally operates at the deadline, which.
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Speaker 3: Is in a frenzy.
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Speaker 2: And then there's a third X factor, which is new
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Speaker 2: ownership and what kind of latitude from a payroll standpoint
18:11
Speaker 2: does Preller have. Other teams have told me he is
18:14
Speaker 2: signaling that he will have financial latitude and flexibility, but
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Speaker 2: we won't know that until we actually see it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think back to last year. Of course,
18:24
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we didn't think Mason Miller is going
18:27
Speaker 1: to be dealt up. He's dealt and he's a Padre. Oh,
18:29
Speaker 1: it's Ramon Lariano, it's Ryan o'haren, it's I mean, they
18:32
Speaker 1: were even surprised they were dealt. And that's that's what
18:35
Speaker 1: I love, Ken, just being a baseball fan when they're like,
18:38
Speaker 1: you know, we don't like parts of our offense. We're
18:40
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18:42
Speaker 1: our guys. I know you can't replace Machadaw and Merrill
18:44
Speaker 1: so quickly, but I'm excited to see what the Padres do.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. We'll catch you later this week.
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Speaker 1: he's going to follow what KP did in the prior episode, Kip,
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Speaker 1: you have some trade predictions for us on some destinations
20:28
Speaker 1: where you think stars could land, and why I do.
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Speaker 6: And I'm sure you've talked about a bunch of these
20:33
Speaker 6: guys and probably even maybe have some of them already
20:35
Speaker 6: for yours too. But let's start with the obvious one.
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Speaker 6: We think Treik Schooble is going to get traded. I
20:41
Speaker 6: have the Yank stealing him this time instead of the Dodgers.
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Speaker 6: Well that's my first one.
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Speaker 1: They I don't know, starters what they have a lot
20:50
Speaker 1: of good starters.
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Speaker 6: So so the Dodgers, I think it's just I think
20:54
Speaker 6: they're going all in. I think that's their main move.
20:57
Speaker 6: They have the ability to resign him, to pay him,
20:59
Speaker 6: to hold on to him after his contract. I think
21:02
Speaker 6: so maybe that's they're they're what they're leaning towards.
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Speaker 7: What do you guys gotten that one? First off?
21:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're you're adding a strength to a strength,
21:09
Speaker 1: which I'm always okay with krats, like you can have
21:11
Speaker 1: too many of these.
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Speaker 6: But I mean we just time talking about the Phillies
21:15
Speaker 6: needing a starter at Cauz of Nola, but they have
21:17
Speaker 6: three bona fide starters. You can never have too many
21:20
Speaker 6: good starting pitching in the major leagues.
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Speaker 3: No, kidnus. I liked you when you were with Cleveland,
21:25
Speaker 3: but yo, we need some offense. Have you seen the
21:27
Speaker 3: team in the last five days?
21:28
Speaker 1: Yo?
21:29
Speaker 3: Yo, they can't even hit.
21:33
Speaker 1: Good analysis that was?
21:35
Speaker 4: That was? That was Tony from New York calling in Okay.
21:38
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I grew up listening to to talk
21:41
Speaker 1: radio in New York and they'd be like, yeah, we
21:43
Speaker 1: want the Schooble guy. We'll take him like and they'll
21:46
Speaker 1: name like. They'll go on you know, Baseball America and
21:48
Speaker 1: find like their eighteenth ranked prospect and be like, yeah,
21:50
Speaker 1: we'll give him Smith Smith for Schoogle Right, Yeah.
21:54
Speaker 3: That's one.
21:55
Speaker 1: Here's my next deal. Yeah, straight up, it's fine. He's
21:57
Speaker 1: supposed to be really good. He's got like six homers
22:00
Speaker 1: enable so uh, I'm not saying it's it's impossible, and
22:04
Speaker 1: for me, I would love it still if I'm a
22:06
Speaker 1: Yankee fan. Add to it, right, what is what does
22:08
Speaker 1: the playoff rotation look like for you? Schlitler has been
22:10
Speaker 1: their best pitcher this year. Cole's back should be pitching
22:13
Speaker 1: a playoff game. Max Freez should come back at some point.
22:16
Speaker 1: And pitch a playoff game and then Trek scoogle along
22:19
Speaker 1: with that. Four That sounds great to me. There's others
22:21
Speaker 1: obviously that can pitch, that have pitched ye fast.
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Speaker 6: There's other playoff teams that can use him and need
22:28
Speaker 6: him and would make their rotation look just as good too.
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Speaker 6: So I mean, listen, I'm not saying I'm right. I'm
22:32
Speaker 6: just saying that's a that's a guess. That's a guess.
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Speaker 1: Okay, next up, uh.
22:39
Speaker 3: Next one.
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Speaker 6: I got a rolled as chatman to the Cubs. I
22:41
Speaker 6: think just following them along a little bit closer. They
22:45
Speaker 6: need some bullpen help, they need some stability back there.
22:47
Speaker 6: I know there's that something that was talked about their
22:50
Speaker 6: relationship a little bit between him and whether it was
22:53
Speaker 6: Ricketts or or Jed I couldn't. I can't remember what
22:55
Speaker 6: the story was, but I know that they needed they
22:58
Speaker 6: need a closer or someone in the back end with
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Speaker 6: Plancia to help out and kind of bring some a
23:02
Speaker 6: little bit more.
23:03
Speaker 7: Stability for that one. But they could use the starter too.
23:05
Speaker 6: Cubs would definitely need a starter as well, But I
23:08
Speaker 6: don't know if they're gonna be the ones.
23:09
Speaker 7: Who go after Schooble.
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Speaker 1: I like this idea, try to find the match up again,
23:14
Speaker 1: Trek Scooble. Yeah, like Eric with the t but I
23:17
Speaker 1: like this idea. Kip. I mean, he's done it before
23:20
Speaker 1: with the Cubs. He was part of the Glabor Torres
23:22
Speaker 1: for Trapman deal that would I mean, he's he's part
23:25
Speaker 1: of ultimate Cubs history.
23:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm aware, but just I know they have the
23:30
Speaker 6: relationship that I think has been there before. But I
23:33
Speaker 6: think that that fit and him go well together. I
23:38
Speaker 6: just see them like it.
23:41
Speaker 3: I like it.
23:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think Chapman will fit on a
23:44
Speaker 4: lot of teams that don't have a bona closer yet.
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Speaker 1: Okay, next up.
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Speaker 6: My next ones were just kind of like could be interchangeable.
23:52
Speaker 7: I think.
23:53
Speaker 6: I just I know the Dodgers will always go out
23:55
Speaker 6: and go get pitching, so I kind of look at
23:56
Speaker 6: some teams that we're doing well. But I know, we
23:58
Speaker 6: just talked about the twins kind of being in the middle.
24:00
Speaker 6: Joe Ryan just seems like a controllable starter that they
24:03
Speaker 6: like getting. That seems like right up the alley of
24:05
Speaker 6: the Dodgers. They like having controllable starters. Obviously, uh Luisa.
24:10
Speaker 6: Rias to the Mariners. I think they need some contact
24:12
Speaker 6: and hitting. And then Taylor Ward's kind of that Swiss
24:15
Speaker 6: Army Knight for the Padres.
24:18
Speaker 7: I think the.
24:20
Speaker 1: Yep yep, and and that would mean the Orioles maybe
24:23
Speaker 1: fall back a little bit more. I mean, not that
24:26
Speaker 1: they're playing well, they're not.
24:27
Speaker 6: I wanted to put him. I wanted to get the
24:29
Speaker 6: Orioles somewhere, but I couldn't land on someone.
24:33
Speaker 3: Right.
24:33
Speaker 1: So you think they might be sellers when we get
24:35
Speaker 1: to the trade deadline.
24:37
Speaker 6: If they I mean, if they're that, if they fall
24:39
Speaker 6: that far, if they keep dropping, I know, the third
24:41
Speaker 6: Wildcard obviously opens up to everyone. I mean, if you
24:43
Speaker 6: look at the AL the third wildcard teams of five
24:45
Speaker 6: hundred team we just talked about that, but you fall
24:48
Speaker 6: that far behind uh Tampa Bay and Yankees, You're yeah,
24:54
Speaker 6: You're just you're not putting yourself in that much a
24:56
Speaker 6: good position to have success near the back the end
24:58
Speaker 6: of the season.
25:00
Speaker 4: You're digging too of a hole. My favorite one is
25:03
Speaker 4: the Taylor Award to the Padres. Taylor Ward has not
25:07
Speaker 4: has not dipped into his power. And this is the
25:10
Speaker 4: dude that hit some pumps last year out on the
25:13
Speaker 4: West coast.
25:13
Speaker 7: Maybe there's something who knows.
25:16
Speaker 4: He goes back out to Anaheim and he hits a
25:18
Speaker 4: homer with the Orioles, Like some people play a little
25:22
Speaker 4: bit more, you know, relaxed on one.
25:25
Speaker 3: Of the coasts.
25:25
Speaker 4: Who knows, But that would give them some extra power.
25:30
Speaker 4: Not a lot of athleticism in the outfield, but look,
25:33
Speaker 4: the athleticism has gotten them thirtieth in offense for the
25:37
Speaker 4: entire year so far.
25:38
Speaker 3: So they got to try to add a bat somehow.
25:42
Speaker 6: I figured, like I was thinking a ry as to
25:44
Speaker 6: the Padres. I mean, he was just there and they
25:45
Speaker 6: got rid of him a little bit though, so but
25:47
Speaker 6: like he hits a single in front of guys who
25:49
Speaker 6: aren't hitting it. So I thought, Taylor Ward can get
25:52
Speaker 6: some pumps in and get that a little bit more
25:53
Speaker 6: cooking numbers for the Padres offense.
25:56
Speaker 7: So I kind of flipped those two.
25:58
Speaker 1: Yeah they need thump, You're right, Yeah they need them.
26:01
Speaker 1: They need to find themb but even if it does
26:03
Speaker 1: sacrifice something else, they need more power to be able
26:06
Speaker 1: to go the distance, you know, get yourself a regular
26:09
Speaker 1: season spot and then eventually a playoff spot. Arise is
26:11
Speaker 1: a whole different player this year. Kip have you ever
26:14
Speaker 1: seen something like this. Right, he's the contact guy, but
26:17
Speaker 1: his offense numbers are back up. Right, he's had a
26:20
Speaker 1: little bit more slug he's on base more than he
26:22
Speaker 1: was last year. Right, Like his offense was declining a
26:25
Speaker 1: little bit, and then now he's having one of his
26:27
Speaker 1: better years in terms of getting on base and even
26:29
Speaker 1: driving the ball here and they're not homers but doubles.
26:32
Speaker 1: But the revelation is he was one of the worst
26:35
Speaker 1: defenders and now all of a sudden, he's a great defender.
26:39
Speaker 7: Put in the work, and you tip the cap to
26:40
Speaker 7: people who do that.
26:42
Speaker 6: I think I was talking about it with We mentioned
26:44
Speaker 6: Michael Brandley earlier, Like, there's not many guys who just
26:47
Speaker 6: give you that professional.
26:49
Speaker 7: At bat anymore in this league. It's just not the
26:51
Speaker 7: way the league's played.
26:52
Speaker 6: I think you can name a couple Freddie Freeman, Soto
26:55
Speaker 6: it a lot of times. But ariahs just gives you that,
26:58
Speaker 6: Like he chokes up with two strikes, he gets jammed.
27:00
Speaker 6: I just love the way that he makes it tough
27:02
Speaker 6: on the picture to get him out. And I mean,
27:04
Speaker 6: look at his average, it shows why. It shows that
27:06
Speaker 6: their success there. But that's a professional at bat every
27:09
Speaker 6: time he comes up.
27:11
Speaker 7: Not much power prof.
27:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and that's good. He's a locker. I mean,
27:15
Speaker 1: he's definitely getting dealt on a on a bad Giants
27:18
Speaker 1: team when his stock is high to what is that
27:21
Speaker 1: one year deal crats we talked about, So it's a
27:23
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer here.
27:25
Speaker 6: There's another way I thought about it would be like
27:27
Speaker 6: a because I was just looking at the Giants a lot,
27:29
Speaker 6: just because I know they're kind of starting the trend
27:31
Speaker 6: of getting rid of guys a little bit earlier than
27:32
Speaker 6: everybody else. Is like a chapman to the Brewers something
27:37
Speaker 6: like that.
27:38
Speaker 1: Just I mean, he was paying for that contract, though.
27:42
Speaker 7: I did.
27:42
Speaker 6: Someone with the san Fane will eat a little bit
27:45
Speaker 6: of it. I guess they'd have to, Yeah, for an
27:46
Speaker 6: extra prospect.
27:48
Speaker 7: There you go. There's always ways to work around it.
27:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have to pay more in prospects, which
27:52
Speaker 1: the Brewers have the probably the best farm system in
27:54
Speaker 1: baseball right now, so certainly capable. Yeah, Okay, I like it.
27:58
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