Latest / Best of Business / Greg Smith: Devon Funds Head of Retail on Spark selling 75 percent of its data centre business to Australia’s Pacific Equity Partners
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- 0:18Speaker 2: Spark has sold seventy five percent of its data center
- 0:21Speaker 2: business to ossie firm Pacific Equity Partners. PEP is paying
- 0:24Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty six million dollars for this, along
- 0:26Speaker 2: with another eight ninety eight million dollars if performance targets
- 0:30Speaker 2: are hit by the end of twenty twenty seven. Greg
- 0:32Speaker 2: Smith is the head of retail for Devon Funds and
- 0:33Speaker 2: with us Hey.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Greg, Hey, good evening, Heather.
- 0:36Speaker 2: This is the high end of what we were expecting.
- 0:38Speaker 3: A in certainly is. I mean, it's thirty point eight
- 0:42Speaker 3: times four year twenty five earnings, So that's a pretty
- 0:45Speaker 3: good price, and I just I suppose it reflects the
- 0:47Speaker 3: demand for these sort of assets. So, look, it had
- 0:51Speaker 3: been well flagged that this devestment was being considered, and
- 0:54Speaker 3: it was sort of really something that Spark had to do.
- 0:57Speaker 3: There'd been a lot of focus on their debt levels,
- 1:00Speaker 3: on protecting the dividend, and the reality is building up
- 1:03Speaker 3: these data centers is expensive, so they were going to
- 1:06Speaker 3: need to spend a billion dollars on the data center
- 1:09Speaker 3: roll out. So it's a good outcome, it's a good price,
- 1:12Speaker 3: they can pay down some debt, they can keep some
- 1:14Speaker 3: skin in the game, and of course they're getting in
- 1:16Speaker 3: this out of the way before the four year results
- 1:19Speaker 3: next week.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're obviously using some of the money to
- 1:21Speaker 2: pay the dividends. Should they be paying dividends at the
- 1:23Speaker 2: moment though.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's been the question. So you know,
- 1:27Speaker 3: they've effected been paying dividends that they actually can't really
- 1:31Speaker 3: afford to. So this is going to change things a bit.
- 1:33Speaker 3: You know, this business is being sort of separate into
- 1:37Speaker 3: a new standalone company. So we are expecting, with the
- 1:40Speaker 3: sort of clarity that we've got now, some sort of
- 1:43Speaker 3: dividend cut next week. So the current didn't to give
- 1:46Speaker 3: you an idea, is around about twenty five cents per share.
- 1:48Speaker 3: That's expected to go down to around eighteen the current
- 1:52Speaker 3: share price. That's still a pretty good yield, Yeah, six
- 1:54Speaker 3: to sort of seven percent. So obviously investors haven't liked
- 1:58Speaker 3: the result today today, will the announcement today so much?
- 2:02Speaker 3: Shares down two and a half percent, But I think,
- 2:04Speaker 3: you know, it is sort of that fact that now
- 2:06Speaker 3: we are going to be facing a cut in the
- 2:08Speaker 3: divide and announced next week and the question will be
- 2:10Speaker 3: whether it's the final dividend or the dividend for the
- 2:13Speaker 3: sort of the forthcoming year. We know the pressure that
- 2:16Speaker 3: Spark has been under, you know, business spend has been
- 2:18Speaker 3: under the pump. Given the economy, Government spending has been pressurized.
- 2:22Speaker 3: So I think what'd be really interesting as well is
- 2:24Speaker 3: whether there's any sort of green shoots in that outlook.
- 2:28Speaker 3: And yeah, I suppose that's what investors will perhaps be
- 2:30Speaker 3: clinging to.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Now there's been a fair bit of talk about the leadership,
- 2:34Speaker 2: you board leadership, executive c suite leadership as well. What
- 2:37Speaker 2: do you reckon is going to change here?
- 2:40Speaker 3: Well, I think for the moment that's probably you know,
- 2:43Speaker 3: I think the benefit of the doubt is going to
- 2:45Speaker 3: be given to the current current leadership. But yeah, Sparks problems,
- 2:50Speaker 3: you know are Yeah, a lot of it's been about
- 2:52Speaker 3: it out of its control when you look at what
- 2:55Speaker 3: the economy has been heavily pressurized. So they're certainly not
- 2:58Speaker 3: alone there. There have been here some questions over you know,
- 3:02Speaker 3: what they're going to be doing with various assets. We
- 3:04Speaker 3: now have some certainty there around the data centers. So
- 3:07Speaker 3: I think will be an element of benefit of the doubt,
- 3:10Speaker 3: and yeah, what investors are really looking for some sort
- 3:12Speaker 3: of signs that things can turn around. I think, you know,
- 3:16Speaker 3: for a long time your sparks sort of been out
- 3:19Speaker 3: of its depth in terms of you know, I suppose
- 3:21Speaker 3: the checks has sort of been going one way. Now
- 3:23Speaker 3: you know that obviously now got that going the other way.
- 3:25Speaker 3: This data center sales, so it's going to pay down debt.
- 3:28Speaker 3: It's going to make the balance sheet in this in
- 3:30Speaker 3: better shape. That's going to be good in terms of
- 3:33Speaker 3: the credit rating. Agencies are going to maintain that a
- 3:35Speaker 3: minus rating. They're going to say, protect the dividend to
- 3:37Speaker 3: an extent, all that it's probably coming down, and I
- 3:40Speaker 3: think there will be some benefit of the doubt given
- 3:43Speaker 3: for the company to sort of get through and hopefully
- 3:45Speaker 3: have a better sort of six to twelve months ahead.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff. I really appreciate it. Appreciate your expertise, he agreed.
- 3:50Speaker 2: That's Greg Smith, Devin Fund's head of retail.
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