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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm wondering if any of you watched the Miss Universe
- 0:03Speaker 1: competition recently. It was just this past weekend. I was
- 0:07Speaker 1: fascinated to see how much of a response it had online,
- 0:12Speaker 1: and interested to see that people are still watching this pageant,
- 0:15Speaker 1: because in an era where women's rights are looked at
- 0:22Speaker 1: with a kind of modern attitude, is there a place
- 0:30Speaker 1: for a Miss Universe still in this day and age?
- 0:32Speaker 1: I wonder do you still watch the pageant? There was
- 0:36Speaker 1: a huge like reality show that unfolded. One contestant left,
- 0:42Speaker 1: Miss Jamaica, fell off the stage and landed up in ICU.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Some judges resigned. There was a trans Testant who pulled
- 0:49Speaker 1: out early because she felt that she was unfairly treated.
- 0:52Speaker 1: It became really quite an interesting political place. So did
- 0:59Speaker 1: you watch the pageant? Is it something that you think
- 1:01Speaker 1: is still relevant in this day and age women competing
- 1:06Speaker 1: at this level with the beauty and their minds. I
- 1:09Speaker 1: suppose to some level. I'm interested to know what you think.
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- 1:17Speaker 1: to seven two five six seven one five six seven.
- 1:20Speaker 1: But it is now time for our travel feature. And
- 1:23Speaker 1: we cross to our zoom line. Today on Wonder the World,
- 1:27Speaker 1: we chatting to a woman who's turning her love for engines,
- 1:30Speaker 1: dirt roads, and the great outdoors into something powerful for
- 1:34Speaker 1: women across South Africa. Nicole Page, who is a mechanic
- 1:38Speaker 1: who helps people dream overlanding vehicles, is the founder of
- 1:43Speaker 1: Untamed Tribe, a new initiative that's creating space for women
- 1:47Speaker 1: to learn practical skills, gain confidence, and step into the
- 1:51Speaker 1: world of overlanding and adventure without feeling intimidated. She's building
- 1:56Speaker 1: this community in honor of her late father, the man
- 1:59Speaker 1: who first taught her how to camp, fix cars, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: embrace the outdoors without fear. So Untamed Tribe is a safe,
- 2:07Speaker 1: supportive environment for women to learn new skills, get hands
- 2:11Speaker 1: on and explore the world with confidence. And she joins
- 2:14Speaker 1: us now on zoom to tell us how it all
- 2:16Speaker 1: began and where this growing movement is headed. Welcome to
- 2:20Speaker 1: the show, Nicole, Are you.
- 2:22Speaker 2: There, I'm there. How are you guys doing.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Let's start with you telling us about your background and
- 2:28Speaker 1: what drew you to engines, dirt roads and adventure.
- 2:32Speaker 2: So basically, you said it spot on earlier. So my
- 2:34Speaker 2: dad was my biggest inspiration in all of this. He
- 2:37Speaker 2: taught me how to ride motorbikes, he taught me how
- 2:40Speaker 2: to work on them. We had many adventures traveling all
- 2:43Speaker 2: over and his biggest thing for me was safety and
- 2:46Speaker 2: the know how and not have to depend on anyone
- 2:49Speaker 2: else but myself if I got stuck into a situation,
- 2:52Speaker 2: and that just blossomed into something more beautiful with me
- 2:56Speaker 2: now being able to work in the industry thanks to
- 3:00Speaker 2: my two mentors, which is Paul Marsh and Jomarsh who
- 3:03Speaker 2: helped me and guarded me into this industry.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Tell us what the idea of Untamed Tribe is and
- 3:10Speaker 1: what sparked the idea to create this space specifically for
- 3:14Speaker 1: women in the outdoor and overlanding world.
- 3:17Speaker 2: The big thing is, you know, there's a lot of
- 3:19Speaker 2: people that are wanting to do it. There's a lot
- 3:21Speaker 2: of women that are wanting to enjoy, wanting to venture
- 3:24Speaker 2: and have fun, but they just they didn't have the
- 3:27Speaker 2: dad that I had. So my thing is to help
- 3:31Speaker 2: inspire woman feel confident, feel safe and actually enjoy and
- 3:36Speaker 2: and learn about about the fun adventures that you can
- 3:41Speaker 2: have in the overlanding and four by four industry.
- 3:44Speaker 1: I mean you know, my late dad taught me how
- 3:47Speaker 1: to change attire and I did go camping with him.
- 3:49Speaker 1: But this is another level of expertise that your dad
- 3:54Speaker 1: was also into motocross. Is that is that correct?
- 3:56Speaker 2: That's correct?
- 3:57Speaker 1: Yes, So you really can fix you can fix a car,
- 4:01Speaker 1: am I right. It's a bit different to just changing
- 4:06Speaker 1: a tire and going camping. You know, this is really,
- 4:09Speaker 1: you know, rather experience. Why do you think so many
- 4:12Speaker 1: women feel intimidated or excluded from these kind of experiences
- 4:16Speaker 1: in spaces?
- 4:20Speaker 2: The big thing is it's a very male dominated industry.
- 4:23Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at vehicles and camping and
- 4:25Speaker 2: that it's more male dominated. And what I'm trying to
- 4:28Speaker 2: get across is you don't need to always have a
- 4:31Speaker 2: man by your side to be able to change your
- 4:33Speaker 2: tire when you're stuck in the bush. Put out your tent,
- 4:36Speaker 2: know the one of one of your vehicle, Go for
- 4:39Speaker 2: the recovery training, go for the maintenance training, and feel
- 4:43Speaker 2: confident in yourself to be able to do it and
- 4:45Speaker 2: to achieve it and to actually enjoy yourself.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually not that difficult once you know how right.
- 4:53Speaker 2: It is, It's not that difficult.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You're building a community that's very hands on. What kind
- 5:00Speaker 1: of workshops and learning experiences are you offering and working
- 5:04Speaker 1: on right now? Just to give us an idea.
- 5:08Speaker 2: So twenty twenty six is going to be the year
- 5:10Speaker 2: that we launch everything, and in that we are going
- 5:13Speaker 2: to be having workshop days where we will be doing
- 5:16Speaker 2: recovery training, one oh one, maintenance on your vehicle training.
- 5:20Speaker 2: We're going to be having tips and tricks on how
- 5:23Speaker 2: to pack your car, what you need to pack, survival
- 5:27Speaker 2: skills when you're going out, say for a weekend or
- 5:30Speaker 2: a week or even a month. We're also going to
- 5:33Speaker 2: be doing workshops and fun rally days where all the
- 5:37Speaker 2: women can get together and showcase what they have learned
- 5:40Speaker 2: and the courses and that so a nice little get
- 5:42Speaker 2: away for people, but it's more about bringing across the
- 5:45Speaker 2: confidence and bringing out the confidence and the woman through
- 5:49Speaker 2: these workshops.
- 5:50Speaker 1: And where are these Where do these workshops take place?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Just give us an idea, just in case any of
- 5:55Speaker 1: our listeners would like to engage.
- 5:57Speaker 2: So we are going to be running it here in
- 5:58Speaker 2: the Western Cape. We don't have physical location. Each training
- 6:02Speaker 2: station and workshop will be in a different location.
- 6:06Speaker 1: All right, And how can people find out about these
- 6:09Speaker 1: training workshops.
- 6:11Speaker 2: So they will be loaded up onto our Facebook and
- 6:14Speaker 2: Instagram and onto our website.
- 6:16Speaker 1: And so the Facebook is Untamed Tribe. Is that what
- 6:19Speaker 1: they call?
- 6:21Speaker 2: That is correct, it's untamed Tribe.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Okay, sorry I interrupted, you go on. So they're they're
- 6:28Speaker 1: loaded up.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fine. So they're going to be loaded
- 6:32Speaker 2: up onto the Facebook which is nicole Page Underscore untamed
- 6:36Speaker 2: Underscore Tribe, and then our website which is Untamed Tribe,
- 6:39Speaker 2: dot co, dot zete.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Okay, tell us a bit about some of the adventures
- 6:44Speaker 1: and trips you've done yourself, Nicole.
- 6:47Speaker 2: So there's very many, there's many many trips. If I
- 6:49Speaker 2: had to go way back, we did a trip to
- 6:52Speaker 2: Mozambique a few quite a few years ago and that
- 6:57Speaker 2: was literally we were there for about two weeks. There
- 7:00Speaker 2: were no ablutions, there were no people. I mean, the
- 7:03Speaker 2: roadmap was turn left at the packet hanging on the tree,
- 7:06Speaker 2: so that was it was literally that like danse in
- 7:11Speaker 2: the bush and I remember us getting there and it
- 7:15Speaker 2: was we had there. It had hailstorm for the first
- 7:18Speaker 2: time in forty years. But the hail is the size
- 7:20Speaker 2: of ice cubes and that and we had to make
- 7:22Speaker 2: makeshift bathrooms. And that was my first real big experience
- 7:26Speaker 2: of overlanding in that many years ago. But ever since
- 7:30Speaker 2: then with when you were across from that, we literally
- 7:33Speaker 2: I was I was booked. I was booked.
- 7:37Speaker 1: What kind of overland adventure would you recommend someone should
- 7:41Speaker 1: start with when they're first starting out. I mean, when
- 7:44Speaker 1: you say an overland adventure, are you talking about those
- 7:47Speaker 1: big trucks with the big windows where everybody sits in
- 7:51Speaker 1: a sits in them. And that's what I think of
- 7:53Speaker 1: when I think of an overline overland trip. I'm like, incorrect.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Is that a dated view?
- 7:59Speaker 2: Yes? And so overlanding means getting out an adventuring. Overlanding
- 8:04Speaker 2: means being able to sustain yourself, being away from civilization
- 8:08Speaker 2: in it. So whether you've got the big land Cruiser
- 8:13Speaker 2: seventy eight series where it's kitted out completely with your
- 8:16Speaker 2: rooftop tents and that, or whether you like me and
- 8:19Speaker 2: I've got my little mitch Bishy short bill based Perjero
- 8:22Speaker 2: where I got all my camping year which I just
- 8:25Speaker 2: throw into my car and off you go. So there's
- 8:29Speaker 2: no limit to what you need.
- 8:31Speaker 1: What type of trip would you recommend for someone who's
- 8:34Speaker 1: just starting out.
- 8:35Speaker 2: I would recommend starting out in a little campsite where
- 8:38Speaker 2: you have people around you and feel safe, just so
- 8:42Speaker 2: that you can get the hang of being outdoors, putting
- 8:45Speaker 2: up your tent, making sure that you've got all your
- 8:48Speaker 2: safety equipment, making sure that you've got all your necessities
- 8:52Speaker 2: that you basically need. Start off there and slowly graduate
- 8:55Speaker 2: into doing more and more I should I say more
- 9:00Speaker 2: and more adventurous things. We're going to go to a yeah,
- 9:04Speaker 2: so more location where there's less people and less people,
- 9:07Speaker 2: and soon you're going to get to a place where
- 9:09Speaker 2: you have booked your spari trip somewhere and it's just
- 9:13Speaker 2: you on your own. So that's where I would.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Safe to be on your own on safari.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Yes, it is right.
- 9:21Speaker 1: You know what you're doing.
- 9:21Speaker 2: You know, if you've got your safety and you've got
- 9:25Speaker 2: your tools and your backups, than you are.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Tell us about people who would like to tell us
- 9:31Speaker 1: if you've got options for people who'd like to join
- 9:34Speaker 1: a group like a lady's only camping trip. Is this
- 9:39Speaker 1: something you offer, Yes, it is, so that is something
- 9:43Speaker 1: that we are going to be doing.
- 9:46Speaker 2: So once we've done our training and once you've got
- 9:49Speaker 2: more comfortable in what you're needing and your recovery training,
- 9:54Speaker 2: and that we are going to be doing hopefully every
- 9:57Speaker 2: three months, where we're going to be taking these women
- 9:59Speaker 2: on set like a weekend trip to start off with,
- 10:02Speaker 2: so they can utilize the training that they've gone through
- 10:05Speaker 2: and done. Even if you're a beginner, like literally a beginner,
- 10:09Speaker 2: we can make sure that you've got the equipment, you've
- 10:11Speaker 2: got all the extras that you need. You don't have
- 10:13Speaker 2: to just go out and buy everything on your own.
- 10:16Speaker 2: So just to slowly gradually get women more involved and
- 10:19Speaker 2: then hopefully within say mid next year to the end
- 10:23Speaker 2: of the year as well, we're going to do a
- 10:24Speaker 2: nice ten day trip where we have a starting point,
- 10:27Speaker 2: we've got a few campsites in between with an end point,
- 10:30Speaker 2: so we make it a good trail and a good adventure.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Just give us an idea of where, like where where? Yeah,
- 10:38Speaker 1: that's what.
- 10:38Speaker 2: We haven't got to yet. Okay, we haven't got yet
- 10:42Speaker 2: because it also depends on what people are willing and
- 10:45Speaker 2: wanting to do.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Is it within the bounds of the country of South Africa? Yeah, yes,
- 10:50Speaker 1: of course, right, okay, And what do you hope women
- 10:55Speaker 1: will walk away with after spending time with the Untamed Tribe,
- 10:59Speaker 1: so to speak.
- 11:01Speaker 2: More confidence than themselves, to be able to say to
- 11:03Speaker 2: themselves that I was able to do this, and I
- 11:06Speaker 2: can do this, and I've survived.
- 11:08Speaker 1: My guest on today on Wonder the World, I'm chatting
- 11:12Speaker 1: to Nicole Page, who is a mechanic who helps build
- 11:16Speaker 1: people's dreams of overlanding. She is the founder of Untamed Tribe,
- 11:21Speaker 1: which is a new initiative that's creating space for women
- 11:24Speaker 1: to learn practical skills, gain confidence, and step into the
- 11:28Speaker 1: world of overlanding and adventure without feeling intimidated. And she
- 11:33Speaker 1: is building this community and you can get hold of
- 11:35Speaker 1: her on Facebook. Did you say on Instagram as well?
- 11:38Speaker 1: Or is it on Facebook?
- 11:39Speaker 2: Facebook and Instagram?
- 11:41Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram. It's called Untamed Tribe and she's building
- 11:45Speaker 1: this community in honor of her late father, who is
- 11:48Speaker 1: the man who first taught her how to camp, fix cars,
- 11:52Speaker 1: and embrace the outdoors. If you have any questions for
- 11:55Speaker 1: my guest, you can send me a WhatsApp or a
- 11:58Speaker 1: voice note to seventy five six seven one five six seven,
- 12:02Speaker 1: or you can call me on two one four four
- 12:04Speaker 1: six five six seven. Let us know what your experience
- 12:08Speaker 1: has been like overlanding and if you, as a woman
- 12:12Speaker 1: have felt intimidated going on your own on an overland tour,
- 12:16Speaker 1: we we really love to hear from you. And in
- 12:19Speaker 1: your day job, Nicole, you work in the overlanding industry
- 12:22Speaker 1: building people's vehicles. How does that experience feed into what
- 12:27Speaker 1: you're doing with the tribe.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, so I work for a company called Manjara
- 12:31Speaker 2: Industries where we build up your dream overlanding vehicle and
- 12:35Speaker 2: that draws into exactly what you're actually needing in your
- 12:39Speaker 2: vehicle to go and enjoy these trips. So it's quite
- 12:44Speaker 2: interesting to see because we do very much custom balls
- 12:46Speaker 2: on that and it's quite interesting to seeds what people
- 12:49Speaker 2: actually want. But my biggest thing that my mentor has
- 12:52Speaker 2: taught me, you know, what's simple is always better. But
- 12:55Speaker 2: what the clients want we have to give.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Tell us some of the things. Come on, do you
- 13:00Speaker 1: have to like pump people's rides? I remember that there
- 13:03Speaker 1: was a program on TI you pimp my ride? Tell
- 13:06Speaker 1: us what are the what's the most unusual modification have
- 13:11Speaker 1: you had to put on on a four by four? Oh?
- 13:15Speaker 2: Where'd you start? Well, we've got one of these clients
- 13:18Speaker 2: that he's absolutely phenomenal shame and he's got a seventy
- 13:22Speaker 2: nine series double cowb Land Cruiser and the whole back
- 13:25Speaker 2: section of his car we've converted into a kitchen because
- 13:29Speaker 2: he loves cooking in that and he's in the industry
- 13:31Speaker 2: of cooking, So we've literally built a kitchen with a
- 13:34Speaker 2: mini fridge, coffee machine, milk throfugher, bread boards, drop down tables,
- 13:39Speaker 2: you name it. We had to do it. So that
- 13:41Speaker 2: obviously is one of the ones that really stand out
- 13:44Speaker 2: to me. That's amazing other clients.
- 13:47Speaker 1: To start his own cooking show art in the wild
- 13:49Speaker 1: while he's traveling.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Yes he can, and I'm convinced he's going to, so
- 13:55Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that.
- 13:56Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. I'm interested to know what kind
- 14:00Speaker 1: of response you've had from women who've joined the workshops
- 14:04Speaker 1: or any of the trips have you had. Do people
- 14:07Speaker 1: want to learn? Do women want they do?
- 14:12Speaker 2: I've got a lot of women that are contacting me
- 14:15Speaker 2: asking Okay, when are we starting, where do they start?
- 14:18Speaker 2: What do they need? So we actually had the gravel
- 14:22Speaker 2: Kings event about two weekends ago, and that was absolutely
- 14:27Speaker 2: phenomen model because I was able to meet so gravel
- 14:31Speaker 2: Kings is an event where it's gravel racing, so you've
- 14:34Speaker 2: got like a quarter mile race and you race your
- 14:36Speaker 2: vehicle in it. And I had the honor of joining.
- 14:39Speaker 2: So it was absolutely fantastic racing in that I was
- 14:42Speaker 2: gifted a car to drive, so I was quite grateful.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Wow, But we did.
- 14:46Speaker 2: There ended up being about ten women that came to
- 14:50Speaker 2: join us, and we have kind of we've started our
- 14:53Speaker 2: own WhatsApp group just to keep in contact with each
- 14:55Speaker 2: other so that in more and more events that we
- 14:58Speaker 2: are going to be doing and and bring more women
- 15:01Speaker 2: into so that we can all stick together and if
- 15:03Speaker 2: anyone needs help and that that's that's where we jump in.
- 15:07Speaker 1: How are the men feeling about this in the industry.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Believe it or not. They they're actually they they're enjoying it.
- 15:14Speaker 2: They are really enjoying it.
- 15:16Speaker 1: They always a bit of a boys club, you know.
- 15:20Speaker 1: I know that sometimes know they're very welcoming. Okay, okay, good.
- 15:23Speaker 2: To know they're very welcoming. And I know with Anthony
- 15:26Speaker 2: and them from gravel Kings and that, I mean it
- 15:28Speaker 2: was it was with our collaboration. That's that is our
- 15:32Speaker 2: draft to bring more women into the industry.
- 15:36Speaker 1: When you look ahead, what is your vision for Untamed
- 15:40Speaker 1: tribe over over the next year or so.
- 15:46Speaker 2: I want to be able to have a look at
- 15:49Speaker 2: the end of next year and see more confident women
- 15:52Speaker 2: behind the wheel, more more women taking part in the events,
- 15:57Speaker 2: more women not having to just always be a passenger,
- 15:59Speaker 2: Press says, but actually be able to drive these these
- 16:02Speaker 2: tours on that and that's that for me, will be
- 16:05Speaker 2: my cherry on top when I can see that there
- 16:08Speaker 2: are more women that are more involved in these events.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know you're driving this big vehicle.
- 16:13Speaker 1: It's important to understand the monster so much so to
- 16:18Speaker 1: speak you know the beast. You know you can't just
- 16:22Speaker 1: get in. It's a powerful machine. It's interesting to know
- 16:24Speaker 1: how it works. And that is empowering in itself. And finally,
- 16:28Speaker 1: for women listening right now, because we need to say
- 16:31Speaker 1: goodbye and go to news. What if they're feeling curious
- 16:35Speaker 1: and listening but they're nervous, what would you say to
- 16:37Speaker 1: encourage them to take that first step?
- 16:41Speaker 2: Just do it. Nothing is stopping you. You standing in
- 16:44Speaker 2: your own way of true happiness and true adventure. Follow
- 16:48Speaker 2: your passion and follow your heart. You think you can
- 16:50Speaker 2: do it. You can do it.
- 16:52Speaker 1: That's wise words. Thank you so much, Nicole, really appreciate
- 16:55Speaker 1: your time today.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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