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Nancy Drew - The Softy Boys vs Frank Drew · Fandomonium! A Fandom Comedy Game Show

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  Hello, and welcome to Gatesleepers, the pop culture game show that shines a
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  spotlight onto everyone's favorite fandoms. I'm your games master and lawyer who will gladly
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  commit murder for land rights, Matt Watson. And that's a big pumpkin.
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  But of course we couldn't play these games without our team captains, a pair
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  of amateur sleuths, which just means I don't have to pay them first.
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  It's up to her. It's Audra Stephens. That near rhyme, near rhyme.
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  Maybe I'll give it to you. Okay, it's closer now, thank
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  you, thank you. And he's a solid, sturdy, hardy boy.
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  It's Jason Lynn. I don't like the context of that dependable yes, yeah,
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  absolutely. And then also, as someone who's English is my second language,
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  that didn't rhyme at all. Matt, that was bad. I know
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  she's your wife and she has to me be a nice to you, but
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  that was bad. That's also true. Okay, Hello, captains, are
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  you ready for a series of games about a teenage detective who has been a
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  pot of pop culture for nearly a century? Jesus Christ? Really, yeah,
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  no, no, you're not ready. Jackson I know nothing about Nancy
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  Drew. Oh fantastic, shure not. I never try to research a thing
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  because I think it's cheating. I try to research Nancy Drew for like four
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  hours, and I got nothing. I know who Nancy Drew is. She
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  is not kind of a character. She just solves mysteries. Yeah. The
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  thing I was like is that she has a platform for mystery solving. Yeah,
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  that that's what I gathered from this. I will say I did learn
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  she's not Juny B. Jones, and I thought that there's that's good.
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  We're starting off on it, okay foot Yeah, so I'm just gonna stop
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  talking to you, Jason Oldra. This is this is your fandom, right,
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  this is your thing? Yeah, I well my thing. I have
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  not played every game. I have read a few of the books. Growing
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  up, I was one of those girls. I was a Nancy Drew nice
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  girl, and I started playing them pretty early, like just even watching older
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  friends like from church play them until I was of an age where I felt
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  competent. Oh so this is the thing you can do. Oh you're allowed.
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  Yeah, this wasn't banned in childhood for you. It was not.
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  There is one where they do a seance, and I refuse to tell my
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  parents about that section of the game because they would never let me touch Nancy
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  Drew again. Even though the seance was fake, they would never let me
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  touch it again. Yeah, just like locking the door blanket over the screen.
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  Yeah, yeah, I'm playing ninety Thurio Okay. But ultimately, this
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  is one of the media properties I was allowed to play in my youth.
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  And that's so great. That is great. And have you played any of
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  the games recently? I have, It's been a while since I had played
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  anything. So I got the most recent one, Midnight in Salem, which
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  Matt commented when he was doing research that on the subreddits, the like ACRONYMO
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  not just the subredits, everywhere everywhere am I d And after me playing it,
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  he was like, is that because it's mid I was like, I
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  think it's for midnight but appropriate. No. I did like the fall vibes.
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  I didn't hate the like three D element of it as much as I
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  think the rest of the internet at the time did. But I really enjoyed
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  it. But you're glad to be leaping back into a phantom yam And I've
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  watched a few of the games, rewatched a few of the game that I
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  did play in my youth. Nice in excitement. Nice. What you're saying
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  is your team will win. I'm not gonna say that. Okay, come
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  on, I'm the confidence of Nancy. I'm fully confident. I'm not rude.
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  Okay. Well, to play these games about Nancy Drew, you'll each
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  need to pair up with your closest friends, your best George, sorry best
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  or George. So Jason, who is your teammates today? She's an actor,
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  a podcaster, host of It's Lucked, and a returning player. It's
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  Carolina. Hello, Caroline, welcome by, Thank you for having me back.
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  In great job pronouncing my last name, Jason. No, you you
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  said Isla and I was like, yes, that's the coaching that that was
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  the coaching that happened. I love that. Amazing. Hello, thank you
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  for having me. I'm so excited to be back. Thank you for being
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  here. Were so excited to have you back. I mean, look,
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  you host a Nancy Drew podcast, so it would be kind of crazy if
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  I asked, are you a Nancy Drew fan? So instead I'll ask how
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  long have you been a Nancy Drew fan? Oh, that's a great question.
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  Well, I played the first game when I was like ten, oh
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  wow or nine? Yeah, and I had a similar experience to Odro,
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  where I like, there were certain things I wasn't allowed to play for very
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  similar reasons, I'm sure. And so because of that, Nancy Drew was
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  okay, because you know, it's Nancy Drew and it's educational, you know
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  all that stuff. So yeah, but yeah, so since I was ten
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  and I'm twenty four, so fourteen years day, ie, that's the that's
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  a good length of fandom, quite a lot of knowledge. Played a little
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  games, it's true. Yeah. Yeah, and I read the books too
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  growing up. I couldn't tell you like which ones I read, you know
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  what I've they're all like serialized, so many of them, you know,
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  I know. Oh my god, yeah, so hones. I'm sure it
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  won't come up later. Oh no, Okay, you'll make a great team.
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  You'll help Jason, I'm sure, I mean you'll you'll have to.
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  Yeah. And Audre who is joining you today. She is a writer,
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  a podcaster, also the host of It's Locked and a brand new player.
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  It's Emily Hunt. Hello, welcome to the podcast. Oh hi, thank
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  you so much for having me I'm stoked. Good to hear. Thank you,
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  thank you for joining us first time on the podcast. I hope we're
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  not going to be too weird. Oh maybe maybe we already have been.
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  Again. Also the co host of It's Locked, the Fantastic Nancy Drew Fan
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  Podcast, so I'll ask the same question, how long have you been a
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  fan of Nancy Drew? Emily, I'm just realizing that it's going on twenty
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  years. Oh, I mean to say it out loud, because I still
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  feel like I'm twenty years. But yeah, like Carolina got into them when
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  I was nine or ten, and I'm gonna be thirty in a few months,
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  so nice. Yeah, yeah, hell, I've just recently turned thirty
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  ten months ago at this point. But it's fine, it's all right,
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  it's great, Okay, it's honestly, it's fantastic. It's better than Honestly,
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  these people in their twenties, they don't they don't know. I don't
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  know, I don't know. I feel yeah, well, that's great.
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  He hasn't right here a long time fan, like, well, we'll say
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  two decades. That sounds like we're reducing the number, right, instead of
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  saying twenty years. Two decades of being a fan. Heck yeah, heck
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  yes, awesome. I think you and Oldra will make a good team.
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  I think we will too. Lovely stuff. Okay, teams, you've stumbled
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  into your father's study and found to the files to yet another mystery. How
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  does this keep happening? But before we get to the slew thing, I'd
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  like each pair to come up with a Nancy Drew themed team name. Please,
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  let's start with Jason and Caroline. Any ideas well, Caroline, As
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  you know, I'm just brimming with ideas here. I was gonna ask Jason,
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  what are you? What's what's your idea? I mean doing bad names?
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  But I couldn't think of any except for one because I just realized that
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  the hardy boys are part of this universe. I did, Yeah, I
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  didn't know. So the soft boys or the people either way, the soft
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  boy, I'm good with the How about the softy boys? All the softy
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  is good? That is a good, good name. I'm good with this.
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  I'm good to be a boy just for the length of this podcast.
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  Yeah, I didn't love saying well, Matt loves saying and I love saying.
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  It's just us girls here, and it feels good. Yeah, so
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  I'm all for that. Yeah. Yeah, be flexible with gender, that's
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  the lesson. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, so the softy boys,
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  I mean, is there anything softy boys? And I stronger than that?
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  Carolina or I really was thinking like, yeah, I'm happy with that.
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  I was gonna say amateur detectives, perhaps because Jason's an amateur. I don't
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  know softy. I know, I'm also a softy boy, you know,
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  I think I think we can be softy boys with that. Just please don't
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  call me amateur softy boy because that starts a double level. Yeah. Yeah,
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  images that you go a bit too much. So we have the softy
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  boys, but let's find out who they'll be facing, Uldra Emily. Oh
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  couple ideas, okay, throw them at me. I first off went on
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  this train of rhyme. So Nancy drew. It became like Nancy took you
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  one of us. If one of us draws, I don't know, Nancy
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  Nancy drews. If one of us can fly, it's Nancy flew if if
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  to be able to fly. And then I just settled on team Frank because
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  I am team Frank. Over ned. We'll have to have a long discussion
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  about that at a later point in time, if you haven't stirred the pot
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  because I also agree for what I think are very nuanced reasons. Okay,
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  but yes, can we be? Can we be Team Frank against the Softy
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  Boys like a double dip? Okay? I like having the Nancy Drew episode
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  was our mail coat. I think I think Nancy would approve. We could
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  potentially save this, Emily. Do you have any ideas for team names?
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  Rash I listen. I am a writer. I'm horrible at naming things.
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  It's tough, it's very difficult. I'm trying to think if there is anything
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  that's like named in the games, like a team or anything, and I'm
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  not doing a good job at that. I kind of like Team Frank.
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  But maybe can we make it like Frank? Something like Frank? Should we
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  be Frank Drew? He would take her last name? Okay, Frank Drew.
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  Frank Drew and the Softy Boys a great band name. If I can
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  see myself going to the gigs, fantastic. Yes, So we have the
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  Softy Boys versus Frank Drew. A couple of good team names there, Yes,
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  I love it all right? And if you're listening to this and thinking
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  you'll seem pleasant, But I don't know myn Nancy Drew from my Nancy Pelosi.
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  Don't worry his order with a little segment we like to call passing knowledge.
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  Nancy Drew is a fictional detective intended as a female counterpart to the Hardy
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  Boys, because it takes two guys to be as good as one girl.
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  Nice Ah, Now I remember you. If life were a good book,
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  you would be my favorite reoccurring character. Originally introduced as novels in the nineteen
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  thirties, Nancy Drew has appeared in comics, films, and TV shows.
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  But most importantly to me and every other millennial woman I have ever spoken to,
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  a series of cult computer games made by her Interactive It's Locked, It's
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  Locked, It's Locked. There are thirty three games in total so far,
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  and each game features Nancy cracking cases in unique locations and solving a ton of
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  fun puzzles along the way. The games began releasing in nineteen ninety eight and
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  boy can you tell, with the most recent release in twenty nineteen, and
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  boy can you not tell? One spoon of baking powder? We're getting there
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  that looks great, Let's tackle the next step. Like all great protagonists,
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  Nancy Drew has an amazing set of undefined and consistently evolving skills that allow her
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  to thwart crimes in Cells. Might refer to her as a Mary Sue,
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  but if she is, so is Sherlock Holmes, Superman at James Bond and
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  honestly, literally every other male character from the first half of the twentieth century
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  equality can't check that off yet, do you hear something? Excuse me,
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  I have to defuse this bomb. Now. Let's get our magnifying glasses and
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  sleuth our way to the next mystery. Alleh, bye bye, ohiering,
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  that was so good. But yes, triggering, Oh that was fantastic.
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  Audright now. I normally asked, Haya, did you have fun researching this
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  fandom? But I'm guessing you didn't have to do much research for this.
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  I did a bit for the specific like in the thirties, and I thought
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  that she was intended as a counterpart for the hardy boys, considering mystery solving
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  youth. The hardy boys are in the games like things like that, but
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  specifically it was written as girl hardy boys go yes, sell the books some
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  of the like specific details nailing down but I knew, yah, I knew
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  you know. It wasn't as big as researching Transformers No. Fifty. Just
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  before we get to today's games, I've asked each player to bring in a
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  muse. It's something that inspires them or something they love from this particular fandom.
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  Nancy Drew is inspiring to me because the games have given order of the
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  skills. She needs to find my killer. I know you're out there.
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  I know you're miss Night. Jason. We'll start with you, because that's
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  the format is we go to Jason first. It is inspiring you from the
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  world of Drew Common Nancy uh So, I, like I said, tried
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  to do four hours of research and Nancy Drew came up with not much more
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  information than when I started. However, what I did start with in Nancy
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  Drew. My only touchstone to Nancy Drew in my life is co Captain Drew
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  Stevenson. You're my muse. Oh nice, You've told me a lot about
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  this. You've told me a lot about your childhood. How you are also
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  like an intelligent girl and labeled as precocious because of that. I don't know
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  if Nancy is even precocious. But like something cool, I'll make it a
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  little emotional. Something cool about being friends with Adra and my extension Matt is
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  for the longest time in my life, I was the smartest person in the
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  room, or at least in my friend group. And then when I became
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  friends with them, that quickly not didn't become true. And that's really bad
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  news, because I wouldn't really consider myself smart. No, but the great
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  thing about I don't know if you guys were ever told this in life,
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  but the great thing about not being the smartest person in the room is you
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  only have room to grow because of that. And so being friends with you,
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  guys, I've learned so much about Nancy Drew No, but so much
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  my best effort, so Adre is my music. That's I can't say that's
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  not adorable. So I've got to say I'm very adorable, which is what
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  I bring to my team, the softy boys. I will I will say
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  just because I cannot, I cannot be complimented. And then I have learned
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  so much from you as well. I don't all right, alright, each
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  other performative competition, Okay, okay, it's a fantastic ammuse, Jason,
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  thank you. Let's move on over to your teammates, Caroline. What's inspiring
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  you from Nancy Drew? I mean, there is so much to be inspired
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  by. There's the impeccable theming of every game. I think that there's just
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  that's one of the places that it shines. But I have to mention and
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  I'm wearing my shirt I did this last time, worring do it of George
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  Paine George Faine, Hi, wo is my muse today because when I played
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  Secret of Shadow Ranch when I was ten years old. You never even meet
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  her, you never even see her. You just hear her talk on the
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  phone, and I knew that I was in love. That's enough. You
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  just need to hear her voice. That was all I needed. So I
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  love her and your friend Nancy's friends too. Yeah, yeah, thank you.
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  It's Look, it's always always good to be inspired by a character,
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  and always good to be inspired by a character that makes you realize something about
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  your sexuality. That's true. So early, I don't think I even knew
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  or understood. I was just like, wow, I really love the way
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  she sounds. Yeah, and not knowing it was the gadar pinging like,
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  you know, yeah, it excites twenty twenty. It is, It is
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  absolutely fantastic. Muse Let's let's move on over to team Frank Drew and we'll
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  start with Emily. What's inspiring you from Nancy Drew? You know, I
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  saw that you were going to ask me this question, so I was thinking
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  about it and I was like, I don't know, and it feels very
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  cliche, but I would have to say Nancy herself is very resource Yes,
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  always thrown into situations where she doesn't have a hand book on what to do.
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  She just has like a giant broom that she keeps in a Mary Poppin's
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  bag, and she makes it useful in some way. And I love that
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  resourcefulness that she has to be able to get the job done even with the
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  forces of evil working against her a lot of the time. So yeah,
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  yes, yeah, very very resultful. Yeah, nice cliche, but like,
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  honestly, again, to be inspired by a character, even if it's
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  the main character, that's what they're full. Yeah, it's called true,
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  it's not called girls history. Inspired by the main character. Yeah, so
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  good. I think for a lot of main characters. Barbie, we see
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  and yes, she does have computer games, but not in the same way
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  like I saw it as I started to say it, But Nancy Drew in
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  gaming in general, there is this extra layer of you can do this,
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  like, oh, Nancy Drew is resourceful. I'm resourceful, I am intelligent,
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  I can figure this out. That is at the core of Nancy Drew.
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  That's the power of the protagonist. So yeah, absolutely a great muse
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  that something good to be inspired by. And finally, oudro, what's inspiring
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  you from the world of Nancy Drew Jesson. I'd like saying it because it's
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  Rhyme's Jason me No, not you, because of I am inspired by Ned,
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  Nancy's boyfriend, to not put myself in a relationship with someone who has
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  a negative amount of interest in the things that are my whole life. Oh.
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  Ned has no interest in mystery solving, He has no interest in anything
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  that is Nancy's entire world other than pouting that Nancy's not with him. And
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  thank you to Ned for teaching me to enter into those relationships. Also,
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  puzzle games. I like puzzle games and I still do, and they have
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  introduced me to a whole new world, but mainly mainly putting ned on blast.
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  Yeah, no, that's that's good. Call out the characters that.
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  It's why I didn't want to link it to you. I'm the net of
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  this podcast. No, no interest in solving mystery. Okay, fair there,
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  No, that's that's that's great. It's a good mews. You can
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  also mention in the puzzles there. That's a huge aspect of the Nancy Drew
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  games. Uh. They that's the part where I could see myself like,
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  I've watched you play a handful of games and I remember looking over your shoulder
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  and being like, have you tried have you tried this? Okay? But
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  if you flip these too? Have you tried flipping these two? Okay?
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  Yeah, let's go for that. Because I am interested in in solving mysteries,
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  crucially fantastic stuff. I think we're all feeling suitably inspired. Okay,
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  right, teams, let's gas up the blue roadster that Daddy bought us and
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  cruise into round one. Round one is called can check that off yet doesn't
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  work grammatically, but it is a reference. Nonetheless, this is a classic
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  Gates Leapers game one where I'll give our teams a Nancy Drew themed category,
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  followed by a list of five things from said category. It's up to our
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  teams to select the real ones without picking the ones that I made up.
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  If they select a fake, they'll be frozen out of the list. There's
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  one point per correct answer. Are we ready? Yes? Yes, excellent.
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  Now the first category that each team will have a list for is Nancy
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  Drew video Games. So these are the titles of Nancy Drew video games.
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  Are they real or are they fake? And the Softy Boys. Here is
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  your first list of five Danger on Deception Island, The Phantom of Venice,
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  The Mystery of the Hidden Castle, The Final Scene, and Secrets of Violet
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  Manner. All right, Jason, I have great news for you because I
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  always under the impression that they all have alliteration, and as soon as the
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  first one or the second one did it, you lost me. Flue.
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  I just thought that that was supposed to be all for all of them.
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  But yeah, go ahead, currently, just pop off. Just sure whatever
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  they say, slay girl, that's me okay. So I'm saying the ones
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  that are correct, right, Yes, that is correct. So Danger,
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  you said Danger on Deception Island, that is correct, That is correct.
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  That's the points Boom, Phantom of your is correct. You find some of
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  Venice that is also correct. And then what was the fourth one? You
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  said? The fourth one I said, was the final scene. Yes,
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  that's the other one. Yeah, that's three for three. Boom on titles
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  of and there are thirty three games, as Udra mentions, there's a lot
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  of titles to remember them. Yeah, The Mystery of the Hidden Castle,
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  Secrets of Violent Manner, not even tempted, No, no, sorry,
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  I think was a book I was playing on lilac in and then going with
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  Violet Manner instead. But you can't see. You can't trick Nancy Drew fans.
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  That's what I'm learning. We're too hardcore, too hard, too hard.
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  And with that, let's have a list for Frank true and let's see,
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  let's see if Emily can get three for three, and maybe Oordra,
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  I shouldn't. I shouldn't treat you like you were a Jason Hello, boom
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  hype man. Yeah, here is your list of five games. The Forgotten
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  Clue, Mystery in the Hollywood Hills, The Deadly Device, Legend of the
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  Crystal Skull, Ghosts of Blackwater by you. So I'm saying the correct ones,
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  Yes, yes, I do have to say I sorry. Can you
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  say the first two again? Absolutely? The Forgotten Clue and Mystery in the
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  Hollywood Hills. So, unless I'm wrong, I believe the only two on
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  this list are correct. Okay, there are three that are correct, but
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  one is a little bit tricksy because they did. Oh you're trying to trick
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  me. This is so deadly device and Legend of the Crystal Skull, the
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  legend of the Chrystal Skull, the one that Jason left at Israel. Two
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  points there, very good stuff. So okay, can I hear the other
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  three again? Yeah? Absolutely? You have the Forgotten Clue, Mystery in
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  the Hollywood Hills, and Ghosts of Blackwater? Buy You Adre? Do you
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  know? I don't, I do not know. I'm leaning. I'm leaning
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  towards the first one, and I have no I am as well, So
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  let's go with that. The Forgotten Clue, Yes, the Forgotten Clue.
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  I'm so sorry I made that one up. What was it? It was
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  Mystery in the Hollywood Hills that was released for the very short lived handheld console,
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  the leap Frog. Did You was an official canonical game book. It's
• 26:36
  obviously hard to find now A full disclosure. I knew this is what the
• 26:40
  teams were going to be, and so I kind of stuck hard ones.
• 26:44
  I will say that was a little sneaky, but I'm more than confident that
• 26:48
  we can make it up good stuff. I like that. Yes, we
• 26:55
  like it, we like to see it. Yes, we'll come back for
• 26:59
  sure. And don't be afraid to call Matt out on this bullshit. If
• 27:02
  I know anything about Nancy Drew, that's very Nancy Drew thing to do.
• 27:04
  Maybe should I say sassy is what we I cried? Why did you think
• 27:11
  that was appropriate? I can't call it. I'll crumble. I cried,
• 27:15
  and then I ended up being wrong. So now I just looked back,
• 27:21
  keep going. It's okay, we love it. It's a fantastic first past
• 27:25
  there. But now we're going to move back in time a little bit and
• 27:27
  we're going to talk about Nancy drew original novel titles. So we're talking about
• 27:33
  the books release between nineteen thirty and nineteen seventy nine, comfortably before all of
• 27:38
  us were born. Comfortably Okay, So back on over to the Softy Boys.
• 27:47
  Here is your list of five. The Secret of the Wooden Lady,
• 27:52
  The Mystery of the Checkerboard Sign, The Clue of the Whistling Bagpipes, The
• 27:57
  Mystery of the fire a Dragon, and the Secret of Albatross Cove. Oh
• 28:04
  man, okay, I know one. Oh is it the Secret of the
• 28:10
  Whistling Bag Pipes. That's definitely one. It absolutely is one. That's a
• 28:15
  point right there. Nice. Nice. I lean towards Albatross Cove because that
• 28:21
  just feels like a book title. Am I wrong in that? Yeah?
• 28:26
  I'm open to having that be the next one that we we get. Do
• 28:30
  you have a do you have an if you have like zero shot like I
• 28:33
  have, could you read them again? Absolutely? We've got just the Yes,
• 28:40
  we've got Wooden Lady, which you've got I know, which you don't
• 28:42
  have. We've got Wooden Lady lady. Okay, play it for the audience.
• 28:48
  It's all right. Yeah, we've got Wooden Lady, we've got checkerboard
• 28:52
  sign, we've got fire Dragon and Albatross Cove. Okay, So I think
• 28:59
  maybe we should do the Wooden Lady. Okay, Oh, why have it?
• 29:02
  Would you choose that? I don't know, just the hunch. Well,
• 29:10
  it's a good hunch. I'm gonna have to leave that in now.
• 29:15
  Yes, you've got that all right now, Now Jason gets a point a
• 29:22
  wooden Lady, fire dragon, Oh, checkerboard sign. They're all very good.
• 29:26
  Albatross Cove speaks to me. M M big fan of Albatros. Sound
• 29:30
  for that they have the longest that span. Yeah, I think so.
• 29:34
  In fact, I know things my animals, not Nancy Drew. So you
• 29:38
  go move do the Secrets of Albatross Cove. Yeah, it's made up.
• 29:45
  I'm so sorry you the other one. The other one was The Mystery of
• 29:49
  the Fire Dragon. I was leaning towards that. That's why you said it
• 29:56
  like Alvatros. I thought like a fire dragon. I knew it was like
• 30:00
  a real dragon. It was probably like on a flag or something like that.
• 30:03
  Sure, yeah, yeah, you don't know it in Wales. Okay.
• 30:08
  I got a couple of two out of three. Yes, yeah,
• 30:12
  that's pretty good. I'll try and make it fair and give one away to
• 30:15
  the other. Okay, Frank Drew, here is your list of five Nancy
• 30:22
  Drew novels. The Clue of the Dancing Puppet, The Secret of Mirror Bay,
• 30:29
  The Mystery of the Roman Centurion, The Clue behind the Fireplace, or
• 30:36
  the Message in the hollow Oak. So that one message of the whole you
• 30:49
  want to go with. Oh, absolutely, that's correct. There's the pes.
• 30:53
  Yes, yes, I know the other two for sure. Oh wow,
• 31:02
  amazing, incredible, but only because I don't even know if I've read
• 31:07
  them. But sorry, can you say the first two for me again?
• 31:11
  Absolutely? Yes, it's the Clue of the Dancing Puppets and the Secret of
• 31:15
  Mirror Bay. Yeah, it's those two. It's those two. Yes,
• 31:21
  it is those two. Gosh, I probably would have gone for the fireplace
• 31:26
  one because of like that feels like, yeah, a prime hidden passage location.
• 31:32
  I was wondering about this one until I heard the last one and then
• 31:37
  and I knew the first two. Then I was like, oh, I
• 31:38
  should have coughed on the first one. Look, it's all fair now,
• 31:45
  it's fine. Yes, Emily said you guys would catch up, and that's
• 31:49
  kind of crazy that it has happened. Sure she is. Now, it's
• 31:53
  all fair and good knowledge, good knowledge. Okay. We will move on
• 31:59
  to our final category. It is original recurring game characters. So these are
• 32:05
  these are game characters that appear in more than one Nancy Drew game, and
• 32:08
  these are their names, and we will we will start with the Softy Boys,
• 32:13
  and here is your list of five characters. Dwayne Powers, Oh my
• 32:19
  god, sorry, yeah, yes, Britt Shepley, Prudence Rutherford, Ned
• 32:29
  Nickerson, and Constance Drake. Okay, Jason and I have great news for
• 32:35
  you. We know all. I know all the answers. The first one,
• 32:42
  Dwayne Powers is yes, he bears in two games and absolutely true.
• 32:46
  Ye. Could I ask why you laughed at Dwayne Powers other than it is
• 32:50
  kind of a funny name. Well you can have. There's one Nancy Drew
• 32:53
  game that was discontinued back in twenty twenty due to the rise of the Black
• 33:00
  Lives Matter movement, and it is because Dwayne Powers decides to do blackface in
• 33:05
  this game. Wow, what the hell did you know that that I read
• 33:10
  about the discontinued thing, I did not make the connection between it being Dwayne
• 33:14
  Powers on this lifestyle Jesus, It's more of a knock on the creators.
• 33:20
  Also, everyone like it's yeah common, it's not a gotten that it was
• 33:24
  included. So if that is any reassurance, Crazy Crazy discontinued at least,
• 33:31
  yeah, right exactly. So that's why I laugh, because that's really funny.
• 33:37
  Okay, and then Prudence Rutherford of them a good impression, issume,
• 33:47
  yes, thank you, Yes, that is absolutely correct. Prudence for the
• 33:52
  foot is real. Yeah, she is real, and I wish she was
• 33:55
  actually real. And then lastly we have well Ned Nickerson because he's the boyfriend
• 34:05
  and he's on a phone contact for most of the games. Yeah, he's
• 34:08
  been referenced already that there he is. There's Ned is three for three.
• 34:15
  I thought you would know potentially all three of them because on your Guys' show
• 34:21
  you have like a section dedicated just to the characters and generally speaking the voice
• 34:27
  actors who play them. So that's like in there and that's sick. Yeah,
• 34:31
  okay, thank you. Also, I'm here and I'm participating. Next
• 34:37
  time I'll have you get like try to guess and then I'll a child you
• 34:43
  can try. You can have a little turn. Yeah. And although that
• 34:46
  was the last list of Okay, the final list is for Frank Drew and
• 34:54
  here is your list of five characters. Hannah Gruin, Freddie Herringham, Beatrice
• 35:01
  Hotchkiss, Samantha Quick and peeps. I know Beatrice hash Kiss. I know
• 35:09
  hotch Kiss for sure. Okay, both confident I can give you the other
• 35:15
  two. That's the point. Kiss, it's getting hard to trick people with
• 35:22
  these games. This is a fandom fit. We go hard. Yes,
• 35:29
  twenty years I've served. The other ones are Hannah Gruin and Samantha Quick.
• 35:42
  So if I may say, Samantha Quick is multiple people, so it gets
• 35:45
  kind of complicated, really like multiple personality. How sensitive should we be around
• 35:52
  this? Oh? I mean it depends she It depends on how you feel
• 35:59
  about dancing in a leather cat suit. How do we feel about that?
• 36:06
  I mean it's like a great time. And then she's a fun girl to
• 36:08
  be around, excellent interest. We like Samantha Quick, not not tempted by
• 36:15
  Lucinda peeps alas. It's great. Yeah, points for creativities. Someone's given
• 36:28
  me a point on this. Just give myself a point there. Okay,
• 36:34
  that is the end of round one. Let's ask Nancy to calculate the scores.
• 36:37
  She's the main character, but she's also the smart one, and those
• 36:42
  scores are it's all tied up. Both teams are on eight points. That's
• 36:47
  crazy. That's crazy, wild, incredible. Oh and I have one point.
• 36:52
  Even crazy. You're considering someone has me on the team, so that's
• 36:58
  crazy. Yeah, he so let's see where it goes. Yes, step
• 37:00
  it up, Frank Drew? Is that okay? Up? Next this round
• 37:06
  two, But first we have to play some ads. There are clues to
• 37:09
  the quick Fire around hidden in commercials one and three, so make sure you
• 37:14
  listen to those ads as many times as possible. Yeah, back in a
• 37:17
  bit. Round two is called flash Fiction. It's the improvisation game that asks
• 37:29
  our teams to make some new, interesting, and hopefully hilarious fan fiction with
• 37:32
  a twist. It must be composed one word at a time, so I
• 37:37
  will give our teams an opening phrase, then going back and forth as a
• 37:42
  pair, saying one word at a time, they must compose an original piece
• 37:45
  of flash fiction. However, their captains must first roll the Vibe Cube TM
• 37:54
  and you've got to think about the branding. It actually sounds like a sex
• 37:57
  toy. On this cube are six different words that have kind of like themes
• 38:02
  tones vibes to them. And if you get bonus points if you can make
• 38:07
  your flash fiction take that sort of direction. If you don't, you could
• 38:12
  still score points. This is just the new thing that we're trying that could
• 38:15
  be fun. I like it. Yeah, Yeah, Sometimes the prompts won't
• 38:20
  match the tone. But now I'm just explaining the joke to this round,
• 38:23
  so let's get on with it. The themes on the dice, I guess
• 38:25
  we'll just find out as we roll them. So let's begin with the softy
• 38:30
  boys. Jason, if you'd like to you'd like to roll the cube?
• 38:36
  We have? Yes, mysterious. Mysterious is the vibe? Okay, and
• 38:40
  your prompt that you will begin your flash fiction with is Nancy opened the door
• 38:47
  to the seller. We're already mysterious. Yeah, pretty serious? Could we
• 38:53
  could still mess it up? Though? Nancy opened the door to the cellar
• 38:58
  and there was wine. Mystery, So, Jason, would you like to
• 39:06
  kick us off? And the pair of you just go back and forth until
• 39:08
  we reach a natural conclusion. Okay? She looked down and saw stairs as
• 39:22
  one does, leading two nowhere. So mysterious, so mysterious, full stop,
• 39:34
  full period, a new sentence at midnight, the bell chimes period.
• 39:45
  Yes, do you want to continue? One more? One more? Screams?
• 39:52
  Did you just say screams? Yes, came out of Nancy. We
• 40:05
  have our original piece of fanfiction, beautifully composed. Nancy opened the door to
• 40:09
  the cellar, She looked down and saw stairs leading to nowhere. At midnight,
• 40:15
  the bell chimes. Screams came out of Nancy. It's very mysterious.
• 40:23
  It's mystery. You kept me guessing that it's great. I'm straight four points
• 40:29
  what I'm terrible? Give me the cube. Okay, yes, we will
• 40:38
  move over to Frank Drew. Let's find out what your vibe will be.
• 40:44
  I wanted to try to spin it between my fingers. That's not happening.
• 40:46
  Let's roll it. Thrilling. Oh, okay, thrilling. Okay, okay,
• 40:55
  you have thrilling, and here is your setup. You're prompt. Nancy
• 41:00
  questioned the housekeeper about I'm really bad at this. I'm just gonna let you
• 41:06
  know I'm a little too contemplative. Her scary. I saw the moment you
• 41:22
  realized you'd taken too long, and then when I take so long, it
• 41:27
  feels like the next word has to be a banger. You've got. So
• 41:30
  far, you've got. Nancy questioned the housekeeper about her scary energy. Nice
• 41:38
  asking. I'll open up quotation here. Yes, yes, how is your
• 41:49
  dead father? It was between father and son. Okay, so far we've
• 42:00
  got, Nazi questioned the housekeeper about her scary energy, asking how is your
• 42:04
  dead father? I'll give you you got one sentence to try and bring this
• 42:08
  around. She gasped, full stop. No, unless you want to full
• 42:20
  stop, I have no we need to. I have a good direction for
• 42:24
  this, so we just need to sync up. Are you ready? Okay?
• 42:28
  Nice? Nice? Take it away? Yes, okay, Sorry,
• 42:30
  what was the last word you said? I just said gasp. I was
• 42:34
  trying to make it a I'm just going to bring a shocking energy and we
• 42:37
  open up another quotation. Do I use a word absolutely? Okay, he's
• 42:43
  There's two ways that I can do. He's not gone yet, He's not
• 42:52
  dead. That is thrilling. Well, that really came around. You would
• 43:00
  say either not or still? Okay? Yes, nice, nice, and
• 43:06
  you made it work. Here is your piece of thrilling. Nancy Drew fan
• 43:08
  fiction. Nancy questioned the housekeeper about her scary energy, asking how is your
• 43:14
  dead father? She gasped, He's not gone yet. This guy is actually
• 43:20
  pretty thrilling. She does have a scary She refers and says, he's not
• 43:24
  dead yet. That's a scary energy. I think you brought it around a
• 43:30
  bit. At the end. I'm going to say three points three points for
• 43:32
  that one. No sounds fair. Absolutely brought it back side note to edit
• 43:38
  out. It was thrilling from an audience to point like the posits are gonna
• 43:46
  get edited out. But as I was thrilled, it's a mystery. It's
• 43:54
  so thrilling. Okay, if I mean we we're gonna to play one more
• 44:00
  pass at that we're gonna go again. So I'm sorry Audra and Emily if
• 44:05
  that was a struggle, that is okay. I enjoy it. For the
• 44:10
  amount of pain that is on my face. I am having fun. Okay,
• 44:16
  just some some more basic prompt this time, we're going to kind of
• 44:21
  let the cube decide if you'd like to roll the cube? Yes, gritty,
• 44:25
  gritty, gritty, got kind of the gritty Nancy drew story here,
• 44:30
  and the simple prompt is George cold, simple prompt. Oh yeah, you
• 44:37
  gotta make it gritty. So would you like to start? Caroline? I
• 44:39
  was just what to say. Sure, George called quotation, Yes, yes,
• 44:50
  hey, that's voice acting that we know and love. Quotation. Nancy
• 45:04
  said, wait did you end the quotation? I ended the quotation and then
• 45:07
  Nancy, yeah, Nancy said, hey, what are you sorry? I
• 45:19
  know that's gonna have a follow on. But it's just like friend, what
• 45:25
  I don't I don't know if this is gritty? What are you wearing?
• 45:30
  I don't know who George? I think there's another one on the cube for
• 45:34
  that. I like this vibe. Well, look we've got it. You've
• 45:38
  said it. Now, So what are you wearing? Nancy? Oh?
• 45:43
  End the quotation. Yes, yes it is George. Wait, hold on,
• 45:45
  is George asking this question? Is Nancy asking this question? Nancy asked?
• 45:49
  Or sorry, George asked the question? Oh? George asked the question.
• 45:52
  Nancy said, Hey, what are you wearing? Oh so Nancy?
• 45:54
  Oh? Nancy said, wait, oh I thought it was Hey. Nancy
• 45:59
  said, oh, so we've got George cold. Hey Nancy said, hey,
• 46:04
  what are you wearing? In this ritty story, we're definitely in sync.
• 46:14
  Yeah, speaking, which is it your turn? Of my turn?
• 46:19
  It's Caroline? Okay? Oh? Oh? Nancy said, uh, or
• 46:22
  no, sorry, Nancy, I'll do this. Nancy hung, oh no,
• 46:28
  wait, my brain went on a really bad I know, I know,
• 46:30
  I did, I know, I did. What the pause happened?
• 46:31
  It's like up? Nice? Uh okay, so Nancy hung up? Uh?
• 46:42
  Who is George? Should I know Nancy's friend. Yeah, this is
• 46:47
  George. Okay, shirt. Okay, now we're gonna do another one.
• 46:53
  George dot frantic and ran two the cellar. All right, I've got I'm
• 47:08
  gonna stop you there. I think you know it's going somewhere sentence. He
• 47:16
  ran to the cellar. The knife gleamed as he stabbed Ned first. Okay,
• 47:34
  I think that kind of does make sense. Just a woman if I
• 47:37
  swap and I think it makes sense, So I'll do the favor of that.
• 47:43
  Fine, So we've got George cold. Hey, Nancy said, hey,
• 47:47
  what are you wearing? Nancy hung up. George got frantic and ran
• 47:53
  to the cellar. The knife gleamed. She stabbed Ned. It's gritty.
• 48:00
  It makes sense in cannon if you say so. It's not as strong as
• 48:05
  your last outing. So I'm gonna say also three points for this one.
• 48:07
  But you brought it around a lot more than I thought you were. Well,
• 48:14
  she stabbed because she wanted him out of the picture. The cannon is
• 48:17
  there. A few of three of the points are for the cannon checks out.
• 48:22
  Thank god, Oh fantastic. Okay, Udra taking a big drink.
• 48:28
  Yes, would you like to roll the cue? Yes for Frank Drew's final
• 48:35
  piece of original flash fiction. Okay it is. It's horny. Yeah,
• 48:44
  it's horney, and it might be a might be a solid prompt kick things
• 48:50
  off. Ned confessed. Is the is the start of your piece of flash
• 48:55
  fiction? Would would you like to pick it up when you're ready? Emily?
• 48:59
  Okay, quotation Nancy, I've been thinking about do I take the big
• 49:13
  swing? Yes, Frank, I'm open. Oh of all the words could
• 49:30
  have chosen to us having a three sub Oah, amazing, let's should we
• 49:46
  have? Nancy's reply, Oh yeah, continue the story please. Okay,
• 49:52
  it's riveting. Sorry that was the word I was just saying. I'm riveted.
• 49:58
  Yeah, Nancy replied, I've also been considering that possibility. Just like
• 50:16
  how real people talk. It's just a couple of people really having an open
• 50:25
  dialogue. It's a horny story, but it's also a healthy that's all good
• 50:34
  communication. Yes, honestly, Like this is this is how you ask for
• 50:38
  a reason. I mean, if you want to add a third sentence to
• 50:42
  it, I'll offer it, like if you feel like you want to want
• 50:45
  it to round it out anywhere, or we can end it there. It's
• 50:47
  up to you. We could if you wanted to, We could round it
• 50:51
  out with just kind of a non dialogue sentence that sets the scene. Shall
• 50:58
  we say? Yeah? Okay, this is thinking Horney. Frank entered Jesus
• 51:10
  and whipped God out? All right? Rented it there? We can't it
• 51:30
  can't get any horror in this room. Okay, you're the piece of flash
• 51:35
  fiction, Ned confessed Nancy. I've been thinking about Frank. I'm open to
• 51:38
  us having a threesome. Nancy replied, I've also been considering that possible.
• 51:44
  Frank entered and whipped it out. Really, I've got to give you the
• 51:49
  full five points. It's horn dog, Frank Jesus. Oh fantastic. Okay,
• 51:58
  let's move on from flash fiction now, God bless us everyone. That's
• 52:04
  the end of the round. I believe the latest scores are inside this safe.
• 52:08
  It's locked, It's locked, It's locked. Is the Nancy Drew fan
• 52:14
  podcast that you should subscribe to today? Nice? Okay, those scores are
• 52:20
  The Softy Boys are on fifteen points, but Frank Drew are just in the
• 52:23
  lead with sixteen points. Oh yeah, baby? Round three? Next?
• 52:30
  Where wait? Is that a secret passage to the next round? Let's take
• 52:36
  it to see what we find. Oh, it's full of commercials. Round
• 52:45
  three is called reddit on Reddit. Didn't mean for it to rhyme, but
• 52:49
  there I said it. In this game, I will read genuine anonymous Reddit
• 52:54
  comments from the Nancy Drew fandom. Our teams must then decipher those comments to
• 52:59
  try and work account which game in the series the user is describing. It's
• 53:04
  a game about how well you know your fans, your fellow fans, but
• 53:07
  in a specific order of the Internet. Yes, nice, and I've changed
• 53:12
  the user names of everyone for anonymity. We will start with the Softy Boys.
• 53:17
  This comes from user queer coded Bess and they had to say most people
• 53:24
  don't like it. In my opinion, there's still some enjoyable aspects of it.
• 53:30
  The Hardy Boys and Deirdre are great in it, and there's some good
• 53:32
  scares, for instance, But it's definitely not the strongest Nancy Drew game.
• 53:37
  I would suggest picking it up when it's on sale. All right, Jason,
• 53:43
  you have any ideas is Deirdre in Midnight in sale? Because that's the
• 53:46
  only game I know she is And I actually think that that is the correct
• 53:52
  answer, because I am dialed into the community of the jet you understand feeding
• 54:00
  you knowledge? Yes, yes, yes, yes, I know this.
• 54:04
  Let's walk in Midnight and Salem it absolutely midnight. I'm kind of curious Caroline.
• 54:13
  As a host of a Nancy Tree podcast, what were your opinions on
• 54:16
  Midnight in Salem? Oh Man, there were so many that we had to
• 54:22
  make a whole episode talking about it, which you can find on their feet
• 54:28
  you can't. No, I thought that it was kind of boring, if
• 54:34
  I'm being honest. That was how I felt about it. It was boring,
• 54:37
  and there was too much talking not enough puzzling it. That was how
• 54:40
  I felt about it. There were fewer puzzles than I had remembered. Yeah,
• 54:45
  I think. Yeah, I think it got a couple extra points for
• 54:49
  me because it was my first one back, and so there was like a
• 54:52
  yes, I'm inning right right. But then you'll go back and play the
• 54:58
  ones in that chunk that you haven't played, and you're going to be like,
• 55:00
  oh, wow, these are so much better. There really is.
• 55:05
  There is a little sweet part of games that you missed that you haven't played.
• 55:12
  Yeah, I would say like games seventeen through maybe twenty three or twenty
• 55:17
  four. Yeah, yeah, thank you. The Golden Age. The best
• 55:22
  is yet to come for me. Yeah, I know you have so much
• 55:27
  forward to I feel like I'm being entered into a cold right now. Watch
• 55:35
  That's exactly what just fandom pull you in like one. Okay, we will
• 55:40
  move over to Frank Drew. Here is your Reddit comments and it comes from
• 55:45
  user da ned and they had to say, even though the remaster has a
• 55:51
  slightly different story than the original, I found the quality of life too good
• 55:55
  to pass up. I remember my parents buying me this game and being far
• 55:59
  too young to properly understand the final puzzle without any of their help. Is
• 56:04
  this one Secrets Can Kill? If you did the remaster on that one?
• 56:08
  Secrets Can't Kill remastered? Baby, I think that's the only one they've remastered.
• 56:15
  Yeah, it absolutely is, and it is Secrets can Kill Emily.
• 56:19
  If you played Secrets Can Kill, of course you have. Of course you
• 56:22
  have. Oh yeah, oh yeah, both of them. Both the guys,
• 56:28
  do you prefer the original being a two decade long fan That's a good
• 56:32
  question because when so, it's if you're listening and you don't know about the
• 56:38
  Nancy Drew series. Secrets Can Kills the very first game that they released in
• 56:43
  nineteen ninety eight, and it's so funny going even just from the first to
• 56:49
  the second game. The first game is very cartoon graphics, like, very
• 56:52
  very point and click. There's not a lot of integration into the environment,
• 56:58
  and the ending isn't hold up. In the ending, do you care if
• 57:01
  I spoil it? Anybody? He's from ninety eight? If they don't know,
• 57:07
  what if you want to play and they don't know? So in the
• 57:12
  end, a gun appears in Nancy's inventory and she gets to shoot someone the
• 57:22
  first video, Yeah, baby, they never do that, Nancy. I
• 57:28
  know, Yes, give Nancy a gun has become something that we say relatively
• 57:36
  regularly, the child of a lawyer just with a gun. I know how
• 57:43
  she's cry she's going around because she's committing the crime for tat. So I
• 57:53
  think I have to say I if I was playing them both for the first
• 57:58
  time and had no bias, I would probably prefer the remastered. However,
• 58:01
  the first one is just so iconic. It's just iconic. It started it
• 58:07
  all, Yes, it started all, and now here we are today,
• 58:09
  So yeah, recording a highly specific game show podcast. Okay, back on
• 58:17
  over to the Softy Boys. Here is your Reddit comment from user Fancy Drew
• 58:23
  and they had to say it was undoubtedly my favorite so far. I have
• 58:28
  always been curious about mystical subjects like astrology and alchemy, and this game tied
• 58:34
  together mystics and puzzling in a beautiful way. The setting was beautiful and had
• 58:38
  so many damn secrets. It's crazy. All right, Jason, you have
• 58:44
  a guess. I want you to show him a list of title and I
• 58:49
  should I get him my list If I have a list, I feel like
• 58:52
  otherwise Jason's just going to make one up. The Winds of what Toomb,
• 58:57
  the Egosts of Hoorograph. These are names of doctor Strange items scroll on this
• 59:07
  list. Really, it doesn't matter, Jason, just just curious what your
• 59:13
  guests might be based on the titles. Very descriptive. Yeah, I mean
• 59:19
  there's nothing more spooky than the ghost Dogs of Moon Lake. Okay, it
• 59:23
  horrified me as a child, So yeah, it is a scary scene,
• 59:29
  is terrifying. Yeah, dog dies, no you Jesus, the way around
• 59:37
  Lost Queen, the Silent Spy. Yeah, I've got I've got really nothing
• 59:44
  here. But the other things I'll say is usually it's Matt focuses on.
• 59:51
  This is the popular opinion as well. This this comment is quite descriptive and
• 59:54
  so you probably already know it off the top of your head. But one
• 59:58
  thing to to know is it's got to be the popular opinion. Maybe not
• 1:00:02
  necessary yours, because I don't know if there's multiple Nancy games with alchemy and
• 1:00:07
  warnings at Waverley Academy. We've talked about a lot, and that's just happened
• 1:00:10
  in my eyeballs. So she saw it and remembered it. Get distracted by
• 1:00:16
  colors and shapes in front of the pumpkin? Is that going to violence on
• 1:00:21
  that? Is that good? It's yeah, So I'll defer to you and
• 1:00:25
  trust you solely. Well, I think this is talking about Curse of Black
• 1:00:30
  more manner. Oh, it absolutely is talking about the Curse of Black Momenta.
• 1:00:36
  Amazing, amazing. Is that extra spooky than the others, especially Ghost
• 1:00:42
  Dogs of Blackla like it is? I said, when when looking at like
• 1:00:45
  a list of like the scariest Nancy Drew games, it usually comes up.
• 1:00:49
  It's not the scariest, I think, but it's definitely got some spook It's
• 1:00:53
  a good good one for Halloween. Yeah, nice, another one for Roder's
• 1:00:58
  list. Yeah, it's one of the best. Yeah it is. It's
• 1:01:02
  like one of the best critically the ones I owned and I rewatched it recently.
• 1:01:08
  Oh it's so good, nice good stuff. Okay, back on over
• 1:01:15
  to Frank Drew and this comment comes from user Dancy Drew. That's Dancy Drew.
• 1:01:20
  I got bored rhyme. I'm so glad Audre you did the rhymes with
• 1:01:23
  the Drews. And because we don't compare notes before we start this, so
• 1:01:30
  I know, I almost did that almost was like Caroline, what about Barbara
• 1:01:35
  Blue and Tina too and things like that. Yeah. The one thing in
• 1:01:39
  my head was, don't say drawing, because that's already Nancy Drew and I
• 1:01:44
  did immediately. Okay, here's your reddit comment. I find it interesting how
• 1:01:51
  many people recommend this as someone's first game. I always wonder how much of
• 1:01:55
  that is due to their childhood nostalgia. Because of the clunky of the navigation,
• 1:02:00
  a boring culprit, and the touchiness of the end hot spot, I
• 1:02:05
  personally don't think it's a good way to introduce a first time player. I
• 1:02:09
  am oscillating between two and I'll tell you what my gut instinct says. My
• 1:02:17
  gut instinct is saying message in a haunted mansion, because I know that that's
• 1:02:25
  often recommended to first time players. However, all of those other things also
• 1:02:30
  apply. My second guest would be stay tuned for danger, but that's not
• 1:02:37
  super recommended. So do you have any thoughts as someone who I haven't been
• 1:02:45
  too big in, like, what is the community's opinion? My two that
• 1:02:50
  I feel like people might say would be either treasure in the Royal Tower or
• 1:02:54
  message in a haunted mansion. And so yeah, we have that one in
• 1:03:00
  the overlapping area of our venn diagram. Mm hmm, So I feel comfortable
• 1:03:05
  with that. Okay, let's go with message in the heart, message in
• 1:03:08
  the haunted mansion. It's not messaging a slightly tougher being. The two experts
• 1:03:15
  I give you is a treasure in the Royal Tower, because treasure in the
• 1:03:21
  Royal Tower. Yes, yeah, yes, oh I was That was my
• 1:03:27
  second guest after because I was with you both with message and mansion so awkward
• 1:03:34
  and they both do have they have weird ending hot spots. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:38
  that's true. That's tricky. Okay, yeah, tough tough one,
• 1:03:43
  tough one. But uh well, there's one more chance. There's one more
• 1:03:45
  comment. We should come back. We can come back. Yeah, you
• 1:03:49
  said that last time and you absolutely did. Okay the softy boys. Here
• 1:03:54
  is your final Reddit comment and it comes from Necromancy Drew. I'll defend this
• 1:04:00
  game. It's interesting as long as you've played Tomb of the Lost Queen first
• 1:04:05
  and you accept that the mystery is not the point. They took a risk
• 1:04:10
  and it's extremely different from the other games, but that doesn't make it bad.
• 1:04:15
  I won't defend Ransom of the Seven Ships though, that's an equivocal,
• 1:04:17
  unequivocally the worst, which I now know why. So the big clue in
• 1:04:26
  this is that it's after Tomb of the Lost Queen, which I think is
• 1:04:30
  a big clue, which means it's later. I mean thinking about the games
• 1:04:32
  that come after that, the big one that deviates from the like norm,
• 1:04:41
  and I would argue needs this much defense in you know, its format would
• 1:04:47
  be the Shattered Medallion. But I'm also I also there's something about Labyrinth of
• 1:04:54
  Lies that comes up for me as well with this one. I think I'm
• 1:04:57
  gonna go with my gut. Oh it's up. I was going to say,
• 1:05:00
  do either of those games are they specifically connected to Tom because not only
• 1:05:03
  is it after, but they say like it has to make sense behind Oh
• 1:05:09
  wait, okay, so yes, because I believe, Man, I really
• 1:05:14
  hope I'm remembering this correctly. I believe Jason's not going to know either way.
• 1:05:19
  I know. Listen, Oh god, I'm totally like blanking. Well.
• 1:05:25
  The big thing with Shatter Medallion is it introduces this character, Sunny June,
• 1:05:28
  who's been like a like low key character, but then he actually becomes
• 1:05:31
  like a physical, real character. But I can't remember his role in Tomb
• 1:05:35
  of Lost Queens specifically, So I don't know what Shatter Medallion is the one
• 1:05:42
  that you are going with, and if it's got it some connection point to
• 1:05:45
  toomb, it's our best bet. Yeah, I'm just gonna go at that
• 1:05:48
  cooling with Shats Shatter Medallion. It is the Shats Medallion. Good stuff.
• 1:05:55
  Oh I remember now why it connects? Yes, the Aliens? How does
• 1:05:59
  it? Yeah? Oh the Aliens? And yeah, Jamilla, she's Jamilla
• 1:06:04
  is the phone contact in that we did it? Good stuff and I was
• 1:06:11
  there, Jason. Okay. We got one final comment. One final comment
• 1:06:15
  from user It's locked. Great podcast for someone who played the games in order
• 1:06:23
  as they were released. This marked a sharp drop off from the Golden Years.
• 1:06:28
  It was the first chore heavy game, and at that time it was
• 1:06:31
  a major letdown. But yeah, compared to what was yet to come,
• 1:06:35
  it's not that bad in hindsight. I just don't want to collect any more
• 1:06:40
  shells. Ha ha ha ha ha. You haven't. This is the first
• 1:06:45
  one after where you ended. I don't know why I'm blanking on the new
• 1:06:55
  list. Oh yeah, you can probably use less direcon game number fifteen is
• 1:07:04
  that? If anything, that's even more specific than that. It wasn't Danger
• 1:07:09
  and Deception Island. Didn't you have to do a lot of shorts on that
• 1:07:12
  one? Yeah, but I would consider that to be very much during the
• 1:07:16
  Golden Age, And you don't really collect shells. You can play with shells,
• 1:07:21
  but you collect shells in the I'm scrolling. Yes, it's that that
• 1:07:29
  one's Hawaii. Yes, I believe it's that one, but I didn't.
• 1:07:33
  I haven't played it. I'm gonna go with your not very good but lets
• 1:07:40
  get in. Yes, it is Creature of Capu Cave. I saw that
• 1:07:44
  shells were featured in three different games, and I was hoping that would throw
• 1:07:46
  it up. Creature of Capu Cave. It is there is a point.
• 1:07:50
  Yeah, yeah, you say it's like the first one of the Golden Age
• 1:07:55
  or like the first one, so well, uh, it's not the first
• 1:08:01
  one after the Golden Age. It's the first one in order that you haven't
• 1:08:05
  played yet, Audre. But I would say, well, fun fact,
• 1:08:11
  game number I think thirteen, A Secret of the Old Clock was originally going
• 1:08:16
  to be the last game in the series, like they were going to end
• 1:08:20
  it there, which is why they did so. And then that's the first
• 1:08:24
  book in the Nancy Jerw series, so they kind of threw it back to
• 1:08:29
  that to pay homage to that. And then after that game, the next
• 1:08:33
  one is the France one that you have played. Yeah, Thegetts, Yes,
• 1:08:43
  that one exactly. Okay, I can say that, but the maybe'll
• 1:08:46
  sound danger by design design. Yeah, and then the next few games are
• 1:08:54
  like fine, but Creature of Copho Cave. If you play that and understand
• 1:09:00
  the mystery was and what happened and what the culprits did, please let us
• 1:09:03
  know because we're still ok yeah, listeners, do you let it's luck?
• 1:09:11
  No, we did not something about pied apples, Okay, and we'll leave
• 1:09:20
  it at that as the mystery that is the end of round three. Let's
• 1:09:26
  see if we can solve this point and click sliding number puzzle to reveal the
• 1:09:30
  latest scores. Surprisingly difficult without the YouTube guide. Okay, the Softy Boy
• 1:09:38
  it's all tied up again and Frank Drew are both on eighteen points. Because
• 1:09:43
  we enter the quick fire around, I feel like any team could win,
• 1:09:48
  because that's what a tied score means. But before we get to the quick
• 1:09:55
  fire around, let's talk prizes. This episode Star Prize. It is the
• 1:10:00
  concept of mystery. It's important to keep a little mystery in your life,
• 1:10:03
  but maybe just wear something unexpected once in a while and not like do a
• 1:10:09
  bunch of murders or something. But our winning team will so you get that,
• 1:10:14
  you get the concept of mystery. That's yours. But our winning team
• 1:10:17
  will also receive original first edition prints of the nineteen thirties and nineteen forties Nancy
• 1:10:24
  Drew book series from before they edited out all of the casual xenophobia. I'm
• 1:10:30
  so I'm so sorry. Did you know that was the thing thirties and forties?
• 1:10:35
  I mean, oh, yeah, that's true, that's fair. Yeah,
• 1:10:39
  up, next is our crucial quick fire around, but first one final
• 1:10:43
  set of ads. It's up to you what those ads are, as they're
• 1:10:46
  based on your algorithm. Our final quick fire around will test your broader pop
• 1:10:58
  culture knowledge and it's coal detecting detectives. The mystery genre is filled with amateur
• 1:11:03
  sleuths and professional detectives alike, but would our players be able to recognize them
• 1:11:09
  from a series of clues? In this game, I will give our players
• 1:11:12
  clues to a detective from pop culture history. Those clues will be given in
• 1:11:15
  the style of Nick George and or Best giving you clues because guys, you
• 1:11:20
  could really use a hint. Yes, oh, and there's a classic Gates
• 1:11:28
  Leapers twist. In order to score the points, you need to say it's
• 1:11:31
  up to you as and then the answer. So whatever the detective it is,
• 1:11:36
  So it's up to you as Nancy Drew. It's quick fire, So
• 1:11:43
  buzz in by yelling out your team name. Let's practice that now, boys,
• 1:11:49
  Yes, perfect, this is exactly how it will work. So let's
• 1:11:54
  do an example to put all this madness together. If I said, have
• 1:12:00
  you tried talking to the man at two to one b Baker Street, he
• 1:12:03
  looks. Yes, Caroline, Charlotte Combs, it's up to you to me.
• 1:12:11
  Yes, so yes, Charlock Combs, absolutely correct answer. But if
• 1:12:15
  you don't say, it's up to you as damn and that I won't.
• 1:12:18
  I won't give you the points. I'm so sorry. Okay, but feel
• 1:12:23
  free to interrupt me at any point as I'm reading. Are we ready?
• 1:12:27
  Yes, yes, let's start the timer. Have you tried talking to the
• 1:12:30
  man with the eggs? His mustache is exquisite, Drew, Yes, Ordra,
• 1:12:38
  it's up to you as heircule. Yes, that is correct. It's
• 1:12:46
  one of her dudes. Oh yeah, Murder on the Orient Express. I
• 1:12:55
  see Queen of the Nile. I didn't watch that one, okay, for
• 1:12:58
  various reasons. Have you tried speaking to the retired school teacher I think she
• 1:13:03
  writes murder mystery novels now oh softy, Yes, Caroline, it's up to
• 1:13:09
  you, as Jessica Fletcher. Yes, it is murder, she wrote,
• 1:13:14
  Oh good stuff. Have you tried talking to that bullheaded pair of lads?
• 1:13:19
  They may have been doing this for longer than us, but our little guest,
• 1:13:23
  yes, Jason, is this It's up to you as the hardy boys.
• 1:13:31
  Too long on that. Have you tried speaking to that impossibly old lady
• 1:13:39
  she works with that cop, Sir Henry Clic No, sorry, Sir Henry
• 1:13:43
  Clithering. I think that's his real name. I think Agatha Christie based her
• 1:13:47
  on her crew. Oka this, I'm gonna let. I'm gonna let it's
• 1:13:56
  lucked aside because from our perspective, you both said that at the exact same
• 1:13:59
  time. Zached. Oh no, okay, well, Emily, we'll go
• 1:14:05
  with you. Yeah, yeah, that's that's true. Okay, you can
• 1:14:09
  go. I also might be wrong, but it's up to you as miss
• 1:14:13
  Marple. It is Miss Marple. Kay, Okay, I don't know any
• 1:14:18
  more pop culture to well, good job, we've got eight more. Have
• 1:14:28
  you tried chatting to that sarcastic southern gentleman great fashion boys? Yes, Jason,
• 1:14:34
  it's it's up to you as it's LeBlanc from glass Onion, isn't Isn't
• 1:14:43
  that his name's LeBlanc? That's not. If that was one of his names,
• 1:14:46
  I'd give you it, but it's not. It's not one of his
• 1:14:48
  names. No, I cannot remember his name. Oh I thought it was
• 1:14:50
  Leblu, yes, Uldra, I do remember his name? What is his
• 1:14:56
  name. It's up to you as Ben wah Blanc, Ben ye Ben,
• 1:15:00
  I've got Yeah. I think you're thinking of Matt LeBlanc from Friends, the
• 1:15:06
  Greatest technic question. I'm sorry, I fucked up. It's okay, I
• 1:15:12
  was I was being very picky. Have you tried speaking to that high school
• 1:15:15
  student, the one who's sort of a mid two thousands rip off of you.
• 1:15:19
  They've tried to revive her show a couple of times, but I don't
• 1:15:23
  know. I think the internet hates her actress, or maybe just her husband.
• 1:15:27
  I'm not online enough. A surname is a planet? Oh softy?
• 1:15:33
  Yes, Caroline is up to you as Veronica Mars. Yes, oh nice,
• 1:15:40
  nice. I've never seen that teen girls. I don't think many people
• 1:15:47
  have. Have you tried talking to that guy in the rubber suit. He's
• 1:15:51
  the richest guy in the city, and even though his parents in front of
• 1:15:56
  him, how do you call it a rubber suit? By the way,
• 1:15:59
  it's up to you you as Batman, Yes, Batman, Batman, the
• 1:16:02
  Ultimate Detective, the world's greatest detective. Yes. Have you tried chatting with
• 1:16:06
  the vampire, the one from la but who was born Yes, Caroline,
• 1:16:13
  it's up to you as Angel. It is it's Angel. Wow. Wow,
• 1:16:18
  I that was a nice little callback there. Have you tried talking to
• 1:16:25
  that very phobic man. I think he may also have OCD. It's hard
• 1:16:30
  to trill. Oh, I think it's just going to be Audra. Yeah,
• 1:16:33
  okay, it's up to you. As Monk. It is Monk,
• 1:16:36
  yes, from from Monk. Have you tried chatting with the man who started
• 1:16:43
  it all? That's right, the creation of Edgar Allan Poe, who all
• 1:16:45
  of the British authors copied off of. We're going way back for this one,
• 1:16:53
  way back. I just learned this two days ago. Oh wow,
• 1:16:59
  So gaunt man, whoever he is, and we want to take the nineteenth
• 1:17:03
  century detective's name, I'm not going to think of it. Okay, we'll
• 1:17:08
  pass on this one. It is a character called Sea Auguste Dupinto. Basically,
• 1:17:14
  is it written by Edgar Allan Poe, like twenty years before Sherlock Holmes,
• 1:17:18
  and he's essentially Sherlock Holmes, like the same characteristics. Another thing you
• 1:17:24
  credit for, Yeah, just another thing that Britain stole. Next one,
• 1:17:29
  have you tried speaking with the high school sleuth with purple eyes? She's stoic,
• 1:17:33
  intelligent, and mysterious. Oh softy, Yes, Caroline, it's up
• 1:17:40
  to you. It is Kyoko Kirie Geary. Yes, absolutely, whoa dang
• 1:17:48
  wo. Sorry was a good one. No that I wouldn't have got that
• 1:17:53
  either, but that was a good one. And quick before the buzzer.
• 1:17:57
  And finally, Nancy, have you tried talking to your own goddamn father?
• 1:18:01
  True? Yes, really, it's up to you as Carson drew. Yes,
• 1:18:09
  that's the that that went back and forth all throughout that round. I'll
• 1:18:16
  tease that we definitely have a definitive winner, but it could have been either
• 1:18:19
  team throughout all the time. But before we get to the final scores,
• 1:18:24
  I'd like to thank our players. You've all been super sluthor's. Although I'm
• 1:18:29
  so sorry you didn't notice that the first letters in all the answers in the
• 1:18:32
  quick fire around spell out the clue to where you can find the hidden emeralds.
• 1:18:39
  So sorry, you'll never find those emeralds. Does it actually spell some
• 1:18:43
  that? No, of course it's you. Dare you make me think that?
• 1:18:45
  For a second, I was like, that's why he didn't put Detective
• 1:18:48
  Pikachu in there. Exist. I don't believe I forgot Detective Pikachu. Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  Literally, I was waiting for that. I know, Okay, we're
• 1:18:57
  in sick because I was like, he's going to in here for some I
• 1:19:00
  should have thought, Okay, you're good. It's my favorite little detective.
• 1:19:05
  Okay, Caroline Emily, you host the brilliant Nancy Drew fan podcast, It's
• 1:19:11
  Locked. I understand you're wrapping it up just about now. You're wrapping up
• 1:19:14
  your run of going through all the games. But what have you got going
• 1:19:17
  on? And where can our listeners find you? Well, if you want
• 1:19:20
  to listen to its Lock podcast, we can be found on all podcasting platforms.
• 1:19:25
  You just look up It's Lock podcast and we are coming out with one
• 1:19:29
  final episode that is a ranking of all of the games so far, and
• 1:19:32
  then we'll be back whenever the new game comes out. Whenever that is,
• 1:19:36
  we will return with a little little chat about that. For me, I'm
• 1:19:41
  Caroline Oruela. I am a voice actress. You can find everything I'm up
• 1:19:45
  to on my website, which is Carolinorula dot com, or on Instagram or
• 1:19:49
  Twitter at Caroline O r J E L l S. My latest and most
• 1:19:55
  exciting project that I can finally talk about on the nowns is that I am
• 1:20:00
  a main character. I cannot actually tell you who I am, yeah,
• 1:20:02
  because the story has not come out yet, but I'm a main character in
• 1:20:05
  the new Marvel app called Marvel Move and it's under ZRX is the name of
• 1:20:13
  the app. But like then Marvel Move is like in that. So that's
• 1:20:16
  very exciting and I am so glad I get to share that with you guys.
• 1:20:19
  So dope, is it like a narrative workouts app? Yes, that's
• 1:20:25
  exactly so cool. Yeah, yeah, it was super fun to create.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah yeah, yeah, we'll just we'll have to waite to find out which
• 1:20:33
  character you are. Yeah, yes, hold your breath. And Emily,
• 1:20:40
  do you want to promote any socials, your personal socials or anything like that,
• 1:20:44
  Well you can find me on Instagram at Emily Hunt ninety four. Aside
• 1:20:47
  from the podcast, I'm also a freelance writer, so if you have any
• 1:20:51
  writing projects that need done, hit me up. And I'm looking forward to
• 1:20:57
  I do a lot of nonprofit work and next year I'm going to be opening
• 1:21:00
  a Carolina Haven't told you this yet, a nonprofit used bookstore, and all
• 1:21:04
  the proceeds are going to go promote literacy. And underprivileged communities here in Portland.
• 1:21:12
  I'm very sure. Yeah, dude, that's so awesome. I wait,
• 1:21:15
  so, if anyone has any books they want to donate, hit me
• 1:21:18
  up. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, for sure. Linked to your Instagram
• 1:21:24
  handle. I assume that's a good place to do it. I'll put your
• 1:21:26
  handle in the show notes, as with everything Caroline said as well, that
• 1:21:29
  will be in the description. Do you check them both out? They're both
• 1:21:31
  fantastic. You've just heard them for Night Minutes. They're fantastic. You guys
• 1:21:35
  are fantastic. So fun and Jason, I understand there are developments with the
• 1:21:43
  food truck. You have some socials to promote. Yes, yes, yes,
• 1:21:46
  So for our listeners, while you might not be able to patron my
• 1:21:49
  new food truck business, if you could give me a follow at Studio Bunchie
• 1:21:55
  on Facebook or Instagram. That is one way that you can very quickly and
• 1:21:59
  free support my business and I would very much appreciate that. Yes, Studio
• 1:22:02
  Munchie on Instagram and there's website as well, and the links that will be
• 1:22:08
  in the show notes. Thank you, yes, and a huge thank you
• 1:22:10
  to Ash and Adam Wood and Justin Doddberg for their continued support at the highest
• 1:22:15
  tier over at patreon dot com. Forward slash gatesleepers. You are our executive
• 1:22:18
  producers, so please can you have a word with her interactive about making more
• 1:22:23
  and also better games. Thank you. Okay, let's let's get to the
• 1:22:30
  final score. Let's the moment of truth. The Softy Boys finished on twenty
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  four points, very high score day and Frank Drew finished on twenty three points.
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  Softy Boys the winner story. Good job to you guys. That was
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  like that was like next. Yeah, that was so fun competition. Yes,
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  well deserved win. I know so much more about Nancy Drew now,
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  Never trust the cute ones. They know what they can get away with.
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