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- 0:04Every city live by cool. The only difference is when you crack that Philly
- 0:21cool, you put the whole world on notice. Tonight we got some mess
- 0:32around and find out type of guys who aren't going to straight up codbreakers.
- 0:39So if you come for the bloodline, you best not missed. You didn't
- 0:46it ain't no one know who. We've been showing out for forty years.
- 0:51It's a big boys, and we got forever to go. Feeling help me
- 1:00the biggest WrestleMania of all time. We're gonna take you to a whole new
- 1:06level level and it's about to be legendary. The future of the industries on
- 1:11the line. Welcome to show boy. If you on my restore, there's
- 1:23a big boy prinna araus one that chop again. Oh here we stop.
- 1:27Yeah, some big boy stick poor go to Wolf. Show it too much.
- 1:32Not only I can't even show them wolves. Put it throw seventeen pek
- 1:36that throw the you w e universe here in Philadelms be on watching around the
- 1:41world. Put it up in the trip. I got that child by the
- 1:42store. I get the lock in there like I won't broke when I need
- 1:46more mean more money. More killers just made me more visions Philly WrestleManias Predo.
- 1:56If you on my restore, that's a big boy put arouss some by
- 2:00stick. Let's take us tag ten patch of Magistry of the Baby an silly
- 2:07to all, even I can't even seen PJ took then just come on Nestwich
- 2:15and they came down any big by Steak and now Snickers in w W two
- 2:27twenty four percent the fortieth Annual Global Entertainment Spectacular whistled Mania and you are fucking
- 2:38by. I'm gonna sold out Mican Mantofil and Chile fulled out the Pennsylvania.
- 2:44We are sold out tonight to for wressell Bania Saturday, the first half on
- 2:51the doubleheader. Dude as WrestleMania forty and we are moments away. Hey,
- 2:57this is WW and CW alumni, the Bloomy Need and you're listening to bc
- 3:01W. The question is, oh, you let me talk to I will
- 3:14give you a show like you have never ever seen before. The why because
- 3:21I can't. What do you guys want to talk about? God at and
- 3:35the color red in the world for the black and white either of world.
- 3:44Yeah, tek you out some live there's no excuse the check why I don't
- 4:12know. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages,
- 4:30Welcome to a very very special episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I am
- 4:39your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken, and many reasons why
- 4:43this one is special. Not only is it WrestleMania season, but I have
- 4:46lost my voice and it is now. We're recording on Thursday, and I
- 4:50lost my voice officially on Sunday. I've been given it the Rick Flair WU
- 4:58test and I still can't. So every morning, that's the first thing I
- 5:01do is I give it the good old WOO tests and I just don't got
- 5:05it. So thankfully I have my co host tonight and they're gonna give me
- 5:11a hand going through this massive card. Tonight, we're only going to cover
- 5:16Night one. I know previously, maybe last year, we would do like
- 5:24back to back episodes, but here's the thing, it's a little different.
- 5:29We went this year, and going this year took a lot out of us
- 5:34so much that we needed a break from wrestling for a few days. We
- 5:38needed to recoup, we needed to rewatch and as all the stuff and the
- 5:46traveling that we've all gone through and the loss of sleep and the hangovers whatever.
- 5:53I think these guys deserve a one week break between episodes. We'll cover
- 6:00Night Night two next week. So and you know what, our episodes are
- 6:05long enough. I think you'll be okay. Uh. With that said,
- 6:12I am going to introduce my co host to give me a hand. Here,
- 6:15here we go. He's off the plane, he's home, and he's
- 6:49safe, Dre, welcome back. Whoa ah see fine, yours is just
- 6:57fine, oh Mand safe? Safe travels? Right? How was your traveling?
- 7:00Was it? Was it good? Was it? I mean you took
- 7:02a plane? Did you have to rent a car or how did how did
- 7:06the process go to get from where you were to WrestleMania throve to the airport
- 7:13and caught a flight. Mine's pretty straightforward. I mean it's only an hour
- 7:16long flight. Yeah, I mean we we know from where we were sitting
- 7:21there was from the accents, we could tell that a lot of people weren't
- 7:26even from this country. Uh. And then there were people that were way
- 7:30out of state. You know, I was looking at license plates from all
- 7:33over the country. So I mean there were people from out of the country.
- 7:38Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know, one hover one hour
- 7:42of flight travel. I mean that's not that's not bad. Uh, you
- 7:46know one hour driving for me, so it's not bad. But a guy
- 7:50who could probably get there a good ten to fifteen minutes if he hustles.
- 7:55Let's bring him on in. H M h M. D will welcome back.
- 8:35Fella. Oh it's me, It's me, It's the d O.
- 8:39I l e. I get some breaking news here, yes, Instagram,
- 8:43as we're recording breaking news. Your WWE Women World Champion. I'm not sure
- 8:50what the hell titles she had, the Raw Champion, Rhea Ripley as a
- 8:54puppy. We puppies, all right, But I do want to give a
- 9:07special shout out to the Blue Mini for that great bumper he recorded for us.
- 9:11I feel like I spent about as much time with him this weekend as
- 9:13I did with you guys, And congratulations to him. He got married over
- 9:18as well. That's a great time to get married. You know, a
- 9:22lot of people get married or engaged over WrestleMania weekend. But I do recall
- 9:28the rock Stane. Also, a lot of babies are born nine months from
- 9:31WrestleMania, especially a lot of Generation superstars, because WrestleMania is baby making night.
- 9:41But dude, I'm so glad we were all able to get together.
- 9:46I mean, it's not just the three of us. We had a lot
- 9:48of listeners of the podcast, people who write in, people who did reviews.
- 9:54We had people who didn't sit with us that knew us. I had
- 10:00shout out to Dwayne Coleman, listener on the show. Finally, he was
- 10:03like, really happy to finally meet you guys in person. Uh. You
- 10:07know, my my buddy ron Di Benedetto. He was son of a bitch,
- 10:11got tickets last minute, and he was sitting eight rows behind Green Shirt
- 10:18Guy and you can see him wrestling at Night one on TV all night long.
- 10:24Lucky some bitch. I had a friend that went and I totally spaced
- 10:28on contacting him there and he was like, yeah, I mean, it's
- 10:33like it's crazy to It's crazy to find out how many people like that you
- 10:39knew, like on your social media, that were there, like other wrestling
- 10:43influencers. I guess you can call him. Uh I follow and I was
- 10:46like, oh, ship, like they were there too, and sometimes you
- 10:50know it's like you know, sometimes into one of the one of the podcasts
- 10:58you met. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, shout out
- 11:03to the jobber tiers passed them off by on the escalator, not enough to
- 11:09you know, quickly have a real conversation, but like they were coming up
- 11:13as we were going down and I have been recognize them and I was like
- 11:16the shouted them out real quick. So yeah, shout out to them for
- 11:18being there, and way to Berry lead. Sting remembered you. Let's not
- 11:24forget. Let's not forget that he remembered what he did. Do tell,
- 11:28do tell? Did you remember? Okay? So yeah, obviously among the
- 11:35three of us, not counting Doyle who actually lives there, I did get
- 11:39in earlier than others, so I got like their Wednesday night. But before
- 11:46I think one of the first events that Russell Khan had was that Thursday night
- 11:52at eleven o'clock they had a Q and A with Sting where that was hosted
- 11:56by Tony Shavanni, where he did an interview with Sting and and for about
- 12:01it. I think the whole thing ran for maybe about an hour, maybe
- 12:03a little over, but the majority of it was basically us in the audience
- 12:09getting to come up and ask thing questions, right, which was absolutely fucking
- 12:16dope. And the thing is answered everybody's questions is honestly, you know,
- 12:20didn't like try to hold anything back or try to play coy and anything about
- 12:24it. He gave his honest opinion, honest answers on things and stand up
- 12:28guy him an Tony Shavanni. But towards the end, I the whole time
- 12:33they were doing that, I'm sitting like, shit, I need to think
- 12:35of a question. I need to think of a question. Because the table
- 12:39I was sitting there, damn near everybody at the table I was sitting there
- 12:41got to ask thing a question except for me, And I was like,
- 12:45I gotta think of some kind of think. It's something like I finally came
- 12:48up with a question and I started putting my hand up and then yeah,
- 12:50right towards the end, I think I was the second to last question uh,
- 12:54second last person to get to ask thing a question. And the question
- 12:58that I asked him actually stumped him a bit. It was a question that
- 13:03he said he had never been asked before. Oh, I I probably know
- 13:07what it is. You're probably what's your favorite cheese on tacos? Right?
- 13:11And yeah yeah there, yeah, yeah, so number The question I asked
- 13:20him was after first things, First thanking him for his career and everything,
- 13:26and Tony as well, and getting to tell Sting that you know, you're
- 13:30the reason I became a wrestling fan, you know, which he was appreciative
- 13:35of hearing. So then I got to ask him the question of put yourself
- 13:39in the position that you're starting your own wrestling company, what pick five wrestlers,
- 13:48current five current wrestlers from any promotion, WWE, A w New Japan,
- 13:54whatever that you would want to have to start your promotion with as the
- 13:58faces of your company. And he was like, wow, like I've never
- 14:05been asked that question before, and he was stumped for a bit, and
- 14:09he had he had to really kind of contemplate it and think about it a
- 14:11bit, and he never gave. He didn't give five wrestlers. He did
- 14:16end up giving three. He mentioned the young Bucks he would absolutely want,
- 14:22and he missioned Cody Roase he would absolutely want. But he gave. He
- 14:26did give an answer in terms of what he looks for in a wrestler or
- 14:31what he would kind of wrestlers he would want in his company, and basically
- 14:35he wants guys that will think of the business first and not themselves, the
- 14:43guys who were willing to you know, who aren't always like having to have
- 14:48the spotlight being on them. They think about the product and the business,
- 14:54and you know what works best in that regard people who are really selfless,
- 15:00to which he then proceeded to say that, you know, the young Bucks
- 15:03are some of the selfless, most selfless people he's ever made. How Cody
- 15:07Rhodes is extremely selfless himself. Wish you know, he may be the man
- 15:13in the face of the company now in WWE, but let's not forget that
- 15:18Cody Rhodes in ae W despite being one of the faces of the company,
- 15:22was never their world champion. He didn't want that. I lost a match
- 15:28where the stipulation was he could never challenge for the title, right, he
- 15:31willingly gave that up because he wanted other people to have that shine. So
- 15:37you know, that's basically the answer that thing gave in terms of what he
- 15:39looks for in terms of wrestlers. So follow that up with the next day
- 15:46when we get the photo op, which thing courtesy of Carlos. Shout out
- 15:50to Carlos for that. But so we finally get there, well I get
- 15:56there at the last freaking minute. Doyle and Carlos and uh, his wife
- 16:03were already there in line and ship and I'm getting there parking, you know,
- 16:07power walking my ass off across JFK Plaza and ship trying to get there,
- 16:12but managed to get there maybe what five minutes before we took the photo,
- 16:18not even like definitely cut it close. But we get there. We
- 16:22take the picture. I told after telling you all about, you know,
- 16:26the experience from last night, and after we take the picture, Sting looks
- 16:30at me and he says, I'm still thinking about that question, Son of
- 16:34a bitch. That's cool, dud, that's cool that that he uh,
- 16:40he remembered you. I mean, you gotta think of like the hundreds of
- 16:44people he sees a day. Yeah, the fact that you remember that.
- 16:48Yeah, not gonna lie. That was definitely was cheap. My little eight
- 16:52year old me was cheesing ear to ear side if you got to ask him
- 16:57a question, because I have been haunted, I say, haunted by h
- 17:03the Bianca bell Air interview we were also fortunate enough to go to and at
- 17:08which my wife asked a question. I got to say hello, And ever
- 17:14since then, I've been like, fuck, every day I think of at
- 17:17least ten things like, oh, you should have taken the opportunity to ask
- 17:19this, You should have taken the opportunity to ask that. Ah, today
- 17:23I think I finally think of what I should have asked. Of course it's
- 17:26a week too late. Yeah, I would have asked her whose idea was
- 17:33to do the scary movie? Yeah, and she's done anymore that we just
- 17:41haven't figured out. That's not a bad one, that's pretty good. I
- 17:48thought of that last week around this time. It would have been a lot
- 17:52better. Oh, well, you got to say hi. I'm jealous of
- 17:56that. I got to say hi, and she said hi back, Like
- 18:00what size shirt do you wear? What sized PCW shirt do you wear?
- 18:07Just ask Yeah, it's totally almost Yeah, let's not forget about the fact
- 18:11that, Yeah, we did see Bianca Beella. That was the very first
- 18:14thing we did when I got there. Yeah, I mean I had a
- 18:17whole plan. I was gonna take it for a cheese steak, and but
- 18:19I went out out the window the minute. Well, I mean, dude,
- 18:22it was packed. Everywhere we wanted to go in Philly. I mean,
- 18:26even go to see the Rocky Statue was packed. But yeah, the
- 18:32whole city was I mean the whole, the whole, I mean, w
- 18:34W. Then when they say they take over the city, they take over,
- 18:41I kept, you know, I would, I would try to give
- 18:45Drea Carlo's direction somewhere, and I'll be like, you know what, I'm
- 18:48sure there's gonna be a steady stream of wrestling fans. Just follow them.
- 18:52That's exactly what I did with their shirts and merch and yeah, and it
- 18:57worked too, because that damn sure how I wound up finding parking Yeah that
- 19:02Thursday morning. Yeah, and I was like, okay, the parking garage
- 19:07for the hotel is full of itself. So I'm just riding around and I'm
- 19:11seeing, okay, some wrestling fans, people at wrestling gear coming from that
- 19:15area. They must have parked somewhere down that way. Let me keep going
- 19:18down this road. Yeah, so many people walking around with belts. I'm
- 19:23not sure how I feel about a grown man walking around with a belt,
- 19:26but so many belts too. I mean, they're lucky there was no twenty
- 19:30four to seven titles. I was just gonna get out and started with super
- 19:33kicking people and pinning them. But that might be the only belt I did
- 19:38not see. Yeah, right, that's very true. There's your ass belts
- 19:42too. I saw yeah twenty four Yeah, I mean I saw somebody with
- 19:48an old WCW title, not the big gold but the old school one from
- 19:53the early nineties. Plenty of big gold belts Ron Simmons had. Yeah.
- 20:00I was find it weird when a guy's walking around with like a one half
- 20:04of a tag team title. It's okay, who that's the other one.
- 20:10It's like, why a new japan Pro Wrestling belt too. It's like,
- 20:12oh, I don't have another tag title. It's like, then, wait,
- 20:15so you just got one. Somebody. Somebody at the Tribute to Extreme
- 20:19Show and the rower two ahead of us had a had a TNT championship.
- 20:29Okay, secondary title? Yeah yeah yeah. Did you guys also go to
- 20:34the WrestleMania Superstore at the PA Convention Center. Oh my god, was that
- 20:40a ship show? Dude? It was? It was packed. I mean
- 20:44it was everything what I thought it was going to be, and and then
- 20:48some like everything was just so goddamn expensive. Uh. I was looking at
- 20:52two shirts hell froze over. They wanted forty dollars a shirt. Forty Now,
- 21:00let me remind you people, you can go to pro wrestling teas and
- 21:04you can buy a PCW shirt for half that price. Also, if you
- 21:11go on Amazon or anywhere else, you can get them twenty dollars. I
- 21:18was just on today looking and I was even looking at like the Philly three
- 21:21sixteen shirts. They're down to thirty two dollars now, so they're no longer
- 21:25forty. Because I was even looking at forty at the arena. I totally
- 21:30get it, Like I was so tempted and like Doyle, Like even in
- 21:34the parking lot there was guys selling like Philly three sixteen. Good yeah,
- 21:41but it had no like skull in the bag just said Philly three sixteen.
- 21:45But they wanted ten dollars, And I was just like I should have grabbed
- 21:48one, only because like, just to make a T shirt, it should
- 21:52be more than ten bucks. So I was just like, damn, like
- 21:55I should have just gotten one some of a bitch like guys walking by my
- 22:00wasn't. There were a few things. I think the world had a couple
- 22:03of items that were exclusive to there, and I think the actual event had
- 22:07a couple of items that were exclusive to their Everything else you can get on
- 22:11the website for cheaper. Yeah, honestly, I'm wondering about that white Yeat
- 22:15hoodie that they had that I really fucking wanted, but they didn't have it
- 22:18my size because I went on w W Shop last night and that bitch is
- 22:22not up there at all. It might have been an exclusive if so,
- 22:26I'm mad if I want that bitch, that regular black hoodie with Yeat on
- 22:33it, but not that white one. Yeah, yeah, I wish I
- 22:37would have. I could have saved myself probably a big headache had I just
- 22:41bought the stuff that I wanted to get all that Uh was it that Wednesday?
- 22:47No? No? Yeah, no, Thursday, Thursday. If I
- 22:51would have bought all the stuff, then when I was down there before everybody
- 22:53in they mama showed up on Friday because I went there Thursday just on kind
- 23:00of sort of on a whim because I happened to be in the area,
- 23:02and that's about how it was free to get in. So I like fucking
- 23:04I walk up in there, and this is maybe like four or five o'clock
- 23:08in the afternoon. It's wide open, no line, no nothing, There's
- 23:14you know, not a whole lot of merch because obviously some people have been
- 23:15there throughout the day and purchased stuff, but things like the Little toy ww
- 23:22title and World Heavyweight title. Yeah, they were just sitting there, plenty
- 23:26of them, yeah, and same price as Thursday as Friday. But I
- 23:32could have just bought them right there, but I was like, nah,
- 23:33i'll get them tomorrow. I ain't worried about it, even though I that
- 23:37Thursday, I bought an official program which was twenty bucks, and I bought
- 23:41the I bought a WrestleMania shirt there, which was, like you said,
- 23:48forty bucks. So I don't know why the fuck I didn't buy the belts
- 23:52at the same time, because lord knows, I almost missed out on a
- 23:55bitch as fuck around while waiting just a day for those joints. Yep.
- 24:00Yeah, the only thing I bought was at the thing, and I bought
- 24:03one of those. I was there two shirts, which I believe you could
- 24:08only get at the arena. Yeah, stadium. I'm not buying fucking Joe
- 24:15sunglasses or a rock tank. Yeah. It's like, yeah, be very
- 24:22picky, bad way you spend your money on when you're there, because like
- 24:26when we got there, we were looking for parking, and like I found
- 24:30some parking outside the arena, like the parking lot and they were going up
- 24:34to like eighty bucks a car, and I was like, yeah no,
- 24:38I was like, no way, and luckily maybe my way back around.
- 24:41But for going three days in a row, I'll tell you right now,
- 24:47always park in the walls Fargo. It's the cheapest parking. It's thirty five
- 24:51bucks, but it's the cheapest you're gonna get, and it's really not that
- 24:56bad getting out of there. I got out of there. Both nights are
- 24:59really cool, actually all three, all three nights, I got out really
- 25:04quick. And you were lucky because Saturday getting out that bitch, it was
- 25:14yeah. We was creeping along, gotten on parking spot and was just like,
- 25:18well it's gonna be a while a little bit, a little bit somebody
- 25:23trying to force a win twos a wait for somebod else's bump, like nope,
- 25:27nope, yeah, but I mean like I could hop the curve to
- 25:33get around one motherfucker trying to be slipped. Now, we only have seven
- 25:38matches on on this card, right and besides the matches themselves, we have
- 25:45so much to tell you guys in general about our experience there, and we're
- 25:49gonna give it to you because I I can't think of another time where all
- 25:56of us, all of us are gonna get together and share an experience.
- 26:00It's like that again without it costing us an arm and a leg, because
- 26:04like next year it's in Las Vegas, and like somebody asked me at work
- 26:07today, like are you gonna go to Las Vegas? And like, no,
- 26:10I'm not, Like I don't. We don't know that for sure.
- 26:14Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, which is weird because like they
- 26:17announced forty almost two years at a time, and we still don't know where
- 26:22forty one is they always Yeah, I think the only thing I can think
- 26:26of is that they must be having some sort of bidding war. Yeah.
- 26:30Oh yeah, that's the only reason I can think of why it hasn't been
- 26:33announced, because it's probably down to maybe two cities, like you're thinking,
- 26:37we're thinking Minneapolis or Vegas, and they're still negotiating back and forth to see
- 26:41who was which one's gonna give them the better deal or the better the better
- 26:45package. Yeah. The only reason I can think of is why it's not
- 26:48announced already. And that speaks to just how usual highly unusual. Yeah,
- 26:53and that speaks to just how major w w uh well WrestleMania has become that.
- 26:59It's along were the thing that WWE has the cell to cities, and
- 27:03now cities are coming to them looking bitting against each other. Yeah right,
- 27:11cities want want to host wrestle media. They're competing for it, bidding for
- 27:15it, just because they know how much of an economic boom it is for
- 27:18the city. Oh yeah, Gino's toilet got used hard that weekend. Undo
- 27:25tickets sold for the all five events. Yeah yeah, and the shows.
- 27:30That's not including the world. It's not including all the other surrounding ship you
- 27:37know, like right, all the other shit that happened around everywhere, right,
- 27:40Oh yeah, just like set the mood for people. Like Night one,
- 27:45it was like low fifties, but it felt like it was in the
- 27:49high forties because of the wind. The wind was brutal. If you watch,
- 27:55if you watch the show, don't worry. They told you about it.
- 27:57Yeah, they told you about it plenty. From what I was told.
- 28:00They had heaters down by the rings, so a lot of people who
- 28:03were sitting below were pretty toasty. I brought me and Andrew brought blankets,
- 28:11and I had brought a really good hat and gloves, so like I was
- 28:15okay, I was fine. Uh. The I do recall there was the
- 28:19Jade Cargole, Bianchabelli ar Naomi match. I got up and I sat with
- 28:23you guys down a little bit farther, but I didn't take my blanket with
- 28:26me, And boy did I notice the damn difference just sitting there without the
- 28:30blanket. Uh. And there was people in front of them. Just every
- 28:34time Doors stood up, oh yeah, cut in from his side, I'm
- 28:37like, man, sit back down, buddy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 28:42yeah, because the girls were complaining when when me and Carlos would get up,
- 28:45the girls would complain that, you know, like, oh, they
- 28:48took all the body heat with him. Uh yeah, Like dude, there
- 28:53was people in front of me like, oh, man, blanket that was
- 28:56a good idea. I was like, hell, yeah, I was because
- 29:00every time I go there, just walking from through the parking lot and went
- 29:04to get to the show, I remember looking around and I'm just saying,
- 29:07my wife, fuck, there's a lot of these people are gonna be really
- 29:12they are not, dude. All the girls that were dressed like Rhea.
- 29:18There was a lot of girls. Yeah, there were a lot of girls
- 29:21dressed like Riha Ripley and they were they were gonna be freezing their tits off.
- 29:26You have no idea, Yeah, but uh yeah, night too.
- 29:32That's so bad. But yeah my jacket on. Yeah. It was like
- 29:37so weird the difference. And it also rained on the way two days ago.
- 29:42It was eighty degrees here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's so
- 29:45weird, so go figure. Yeah, it was raining on the way there,
- 29:52and I was like, oh man, here we go, it's gonna
- 29:55be one of those rainy wrestl meanias. But thank god it wasn't. Uh
- 30:06the rain Oh yeah, dude. Well luckily for you, it's like,
- 30:08oh, well, I'm just gonna run home quick, get my ring jacket?
- 30:12Yeah. Uh trade do you want to like get do you want to
- 30:15get into this like I I mean I kind of set the mood of like,
- 30:19uh, the nightmare to get into the arena of the parking. And
- 30:23we talked about the expensive merch at the arena at the wrestle coan uh or
- 30:30the WrestleMania shop, whatever you want to call it, still paid for.
- 30:36Oh my god, dude, the amount of money I saw people spend is
- 30:38ridiculous. Every time I saw it. Cody sold a million dollars worth of
- 30:45merch. One million dollars worth of merch just Cody alone. That's great,
- 30:51That's fucking outstanding. I remember because when I think it was night too,
- 30:56when Carlos and his wife and I stepped away to go to that to the
- 31:02merch store. When they went to the merch store, then told me,
- 31:04hey, dude, the line short short, so like I'll be there just
- 31:08waiting in that line alone, I saw probably at least six, maybe like
- 31:15five or six WWE title belts get sold out of that one store, and
- 31:22those going for six hundred bucks a pop. Damn. It's like the Roman
- 31:26Remains Belt, the Unisputed Universal title. Yeah, yeah, eight bucks a
- 31:30pop. And I watched that biscuits sold like five or six times just at
- 31:33the time I was waiting in line. Damn, dude, Like you you
- 31:37spend so much money to get there, and then you're like, oh,
- 31:41I need to spend more money. I need to buy this title, and
- 31:45then you realize I gotta fly home. How man you get this title home?
- 31:51Yeah? And then they keep you there for five hours basically meeting.
- 31:53You have to buy some food, you have to buy a fifteen dollars chicken
- 31:57sandwich, wash it down with a six dollars bottle of water. Yeah,
- 32:02everything works because they it's those impulse buyers. Yeah, and that thing sitting
- 32:09right there on display looking all nice, and somebody's gonna sit there. Dude,
- 32:14that belt looks sick. I want it? How much is it?
- 32:16Six hundred? Oh, that's not that bad, whereas on any other they
- 32:21be like six hundred fuck no card, staring in the face and you're like,
- 32:25that's not that bad, dude, let me get that belt. You're
- 32:29seeing all the other people walking around with belts and you're like, oh,
- 32:32that belt looks sick. That belt looks sick. I want to walk around
- 32:35with a belt too. Near. That's six hundred dollars shining new toys,
- 32:37staring you're right in the face. Yeah, I mean it's tempting, But
- 32:45like, I don't think I get my belt at an event. I think
- 32:47i'd want to order it, get it a lot cheaper, because, like
- 32:52you were saying, due, they're going to like five six hundred bucks,
- 32:54and like, I know you can get them a health a lot cheaper online,
- 32:59hell, louch cheaper. I want to know if somebody bought that two
- 33:01thousand dollars World Heavyweight title belt that was at the on sale at the World.
- 33:06Oh yeah, I'm curious myself. It was because they were selling it
- 33:09online for fifteen you know. It's just like like they sold it fucked And
- 33:15that's probably what contributed to so many people walking around with belts, is that
- 33:17they were literally selling them at the World just had his own dedicated standard just
- 33:22belts, a whole bunch of ones that you could choose from. Yeah,
- 33:27because like when they would come to our local arena, the smaller the Santana
- 33:30arena, like they would have belts, but like maybe it's like two belts
- 33:36and they only have like maybe one or two in stock. But like here
- 33:39it's like almost every belt you can think of I and all these custom belts,
- 33:45and you know, like that's one thing ww And we talked about it
- 33:46before on previous episodes, like when it comes to belts, they stepped up
- 33:51their game with like relaunching, redesigning new titles the past decade, and then
- 33:55the football the NFL belts, and now I just saw base Fall has them
- 34:00now too. I think God, like everybody gets about now, like but
- 34:06whatever, I mean, that's merch money for them. So yep. I
- 34:10mean, I mean you see non wrestling fans with with speak they've gotten now
- 34:17dude. Yeah, Like like when I got back to work today or yesterday,
- 34:22a lot of people who aren't wrestling fans, a lot of them are
- 34:27coming up to me and asked me about my experience and like to have a
- 34:30good time, like was it worth it? And you know, like,
- 34:32uh, for a lot of people, Uh, this was like one of
- 34:37they know that this was one of the things on my bucket list, Like
- 34:40it wasn't just going to uh WrestleMania, it was going The idea for me
- 34:45was to experience both nights and the raw after Mania. Even though the rall
- 34:52after media is not up to part we'll say what they used to be,
- 34:59but I still wanted to take part because of it's different than the SmackDown before
- 35:05Mania. The energy that you have because you're still coming off of Mania.
- 35:09There's still people who are who didn't go home yet they're still here for another
- 35:15day. So they still got that because I was meeting a bunch of people
- 35:17in there and you could tell who was at Mania because uh, you know,
- 35:22they would be missing their voice some of them. It's like yeah,
- 35:24also at Mania for two days and now a raw I'm like, yeah,
- 35:28dude, me too, Like this is awesome? What's that? Do you
- 35:36know? It wasn't just it wasn't just WrestleMania though, it was like WrestleMania
- 35:46forty, you know, no disrespect to WrestleMania thirty seven. Yeahs that are
- 35:52always uh bigger. And not only that, but you know, and we
- 35:59got it soft down our throat the whole weekend, this new era, new
- 36:01era, new era, new era. You know, it's the first WrestleMania
- 36:06since the merger. It's the first one post Vince McMahon, you know,
- 36:09and they're clearly not rebranding that's not the right word, but maybe refocusing,
- 36:19shall we yeahff like that and let's just talk about you know. So it's
- 36:24kind of it was kind of a perfect storm of it being right in my
- 36:30backyard, it being a ten WrestleMania, and it being a time when just
- 36:37a seismic seismic shift, and I think maybe ten to fifteen years down the
- 36:42road, we'll look back and think of, you know, remember when X,
- 36:45Y and Z happened, Yeah, but that was before WrestleMania forty.
- 36:50We'll kind of look at things that'll be like a line in the sand.
- 36:52Oh dude, I like that. Yeah, like a big timestamp. Yeah,
- 36:57definitely, so before we get into everything. Yeah yeah, just from
- 37:00an overall standpoint, just looking at wrestlemedia as a whole it, even the
- 37:05raw afterwards. Let me ask the question, does it feel like we've answered
- 37:08a new era in WWE? Oh? I think so. I think so.
- 37:14Like the whole feel and the way it was it was done, the
- 37:19way it was presented, everything, it just felt like something a little different
- 37:23but yet the same. But I like to say no, but only because
- 37:30I think we're we've already entered that era. You think so. I don't
- 37:32think you can force it and say this is what it is. This.
- 37:36I think this era started when the camera panned out from Roman reigns and Paul
- 37:40Haymon was sitting there next to them. I think that's that was from for
- 37:45my money anyway, right, that was three four years ago. That's when
- 37:50the tide started to turn a little bit for me anyway. Yeah, I
- 37:53mean for me, it's like once once I was able to like sleep at
- 38:00night knowing that Vince had no fingers in this WrestleMania. The first WrestleMania with
- 38:06Vince mcmn, you know, and it ended up being like the biggest WrestleMania
- 38:09of all time. And it's funny to think that, like, you know,
- 38:13thirty nine previous other WrestleManias Vince did and triple Ah, She's like did
- 38:17it on my first try? Like, you know, I was really happy
- 38:23for the company to succeed with Vince not there because that was always like one
- 38:30of my concerns is like, oh, with Vince, now we all know
- 38:35he's a piece of shit, no pun intended, but like I was worried
- 38:38like when he would leave the company. This is like I was always worried
- 38:43about this, you know, since like I don't know the ruthless aggression era,
- 38:46Like oh well when Vince leaves, Like will this company go to the
- 38:51toilet to the point where like it's just it's nothing that closes down or something
- 38:55like will this survive without Vince? And I can to sure this after this
- 39:00WrestleMania, I really feel like we're in good hands where well it's thrived exactly.
- 39:08It's not survived, it's thrived. And that's such a great thing because
- 39:12I'm as a wrestling fan, I'm proud of of it thriving. I'm proud
- 39:16of people who aren't wrestling fans hearing about it more hearing about Oh I heard
- 39:22they merged with t k O. Oh I heard they have a deal with
- 39:27Netflix. Like a lot of non wrestling fans are talking about w WE,
- 39:32you know, they're not talking about AW a lot of different people, right,
- 39:37So, yeah, like if you're a if you're a finance person,
- 39:40you know, if that's something that you're into, you follow the stock market,
- 39:44blah blah blah. Yeah, there's a huge business story there, the
- 39:46the merger of of w w E and UFC to form this new company that's
- 39:52under this other company. Uh, you know, so something for that.
- 39:57There's something for the you know, action movie fan, and that the kind
- 40:00of maybe only knows Dwayne Johnson doesn't really know the Rock and is now seeing
- 40:05the Rock for the first time. There's something for the old school you know,
- 40:09which I think we kind of fall into, the old school pro wrestling
- 40:13fan, you know. And now I mean with the especially with the prominence
- 40:17of women's wrestling, now there's even something for the girlfriends and the wives and
- 40:22the daughters and whatever. So there's really you know, and the same with
- 40:27Logan Paul. I've been such a proponent of Logan Paul this whole time,
- 40:30and we'll get to him, I guess next next episode. But how many
- 40:34more eyeballs or he's bringing Yeah, people that would never have thought about watching
- 40:39it before or suddenly watch it. Oh yeah, yeah, I would have
- 40:45to say that I think it may be too early to tell in the long
- 40:51term if the answer is yes, But I'm still leaning towards yes, we
- 40:54are answering a new era. You never know you're in the era until it's
- 40:59over, though, sure in real time. Yeah, it's just like you
- 41:01don't know about the good old days until they're finally gone. You know,
- 41:04you don't know when you're yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah,
- 41:07you don't know what the you know, hard line in the sand of
- 41:10it is, like, you know, ww like most people consider the start
- 41:15of the Attitude era kind of starts with that Austin three to sixteen promo,
- 41:20but they weren't promoting attitude at that time, like they were still using the
- 41:24old you know, the old Golden era WWF logo. They didn't have the
- 41:30scratch logo yet at that time. But in retrospect, people kind of say,
- 41:35you know, the Attitude era started with Austin three sixteen, so you
- 41:38know, history will ultimately decide when this era actually did start. But from
- 41:44a feeling standpoint and how it feels right now, this feels like a new
- 41:49era to a certain stent, like not just like I said, long term
- 41:53to be TBD, but it still feels that way. Like we saw damn
- 42:00near every title change at this WrestleMania. You know, the w W Women's
- 42:07title change, the tag team titles changed, United States title changed, you
- 42:15know they stayed, yes, the local pol but uh Intercontinental title changed from
- 42:19the longest reigning champion you know of all time from Gunter. World heavyweight title
- 42:25change and then changed again, and then the big one, the WWE title
- 42:32changed from a three year reign to this new guy. So we it is
- 42:38a wrestle We exited WrestleMania with a whole slew of new champions, So just
- 42:44in that sense alone, it feels new, you know, to the longest
- 42:50reigns now over, especially the Roman one. So in that sense, just
- 42:54short term, it feels like a new era because we got a whole new
- 42:59you know, set up possibilities that can happen now with all these new champions
- 43:04and long term I get what you're saying, how it kind of felt like
- 43:08what you said, do what you said, Like the moment Roman linked up
- 43:12with Paul Hayman, that's kind of where, Yeah, I think we're already
- 43:15in the era, whatever it ends up being, don't. I don't know
- 43:20that it changed on Saturday and Sunday. I think we changed, right,
- 43:24and eeers will look back and say, like, yeah, it didn't really
- 43:28start, it's ended up. I think we're already in the era. It's
- 43:31in history may determine that to be the case. But another way of possibly
- 43:37looking at this being a new era is in the and again, time will
- 43:40tell on this one. But in terms of face of the company, and
- 43:45that's another way where we that's another metric that wrestler fans kind of used to
- 43:49define eras Golden Era, Hulk Hogan, New Generation era, brat Hard,
- 43:54you know, Seawn Michaels kind of fifty fifty Attitude era, Stone, Steve
- 44:00Auston, Ruth's Aggression, John Cena, and then next face of the company,
- 44:06Roman Reigns or Cody Rhodes, depending on how how long Cody's run his
- 44:16face of the company is. And I'm not denying that Roman was a company,
- 44:21was a face of the company, because he absolutely was, but it
- 44:24may still be to be determined long term. Is he if Roman is a
- 44:31face of the company in the sense of Hogan, Austin, Sena, or
- 44:36would he or will he ultimately be that face of the company in that transitional
- 44:40sense like Brett Hard and Seawan were between golden and attitudes, Because if Cody
- 44:46ends up having a real long run and one of those may and he's like
- 44:51that major, major face of the company on the same level of again,
- 44:54Hogan, Austin and Sena, we may look back at Roman and see that,
- 45:00Oh, he was the face of the company, but it was it
- 45:05was transitional. I have a question I want to ask, but I don't
- 45:07want to ask it now. I want to ask it at the end.
- 45:09But that question is how long do you think Cody Rhodes Rain will go for?
- 45:16Oh? I want to ask that. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk
- 45:19about that. Yeah, must say I think that. Yes, It depends
- 45:21on how you word that question. Yeah. Yeah, Like Rain, are
- 45:25we talking about this current title reign? Are we talking about I mean,
- 45:30I mean, yes, until he loses the championship, okay, But like
- 45:35I said, we can talk about that next week. I just want I
- 45:37just want to float that out there, like, yeah, I think this
- 45:39is something we should consider. Yeah, because IM thinking just all the top
- 45:44of my head initially, I think that's I kind of have two answers on
- 45:47that. I don't think it should be four years, you know, No,
- 45:52God damn no, because that yeah, no, thank you. Hey,
- 46:00let's break it in these seven matches here, all right, So this
- 46:06time we're just gonna be talking about Night one, which had an attendance of
- 46:12seventy two thousand, five hundred and forty three people. Just think of that
- 46:20compared to the WrestleManias of the past. I know, fifteen thousand people at
- 46:27this Wrestle Media. You know, WrestleMania twenty five in Philly, I think
- 46:30it was sixteen something like that. Yeah, they've gone from selling out arenas
- 46:37to selling out stadiums. Yeah, with regularity too. I mean they do
- 46:43a couple of these shows a year. In fact, most of them I
- 46:45think are in stadiums, most of the big ones. Yeah, they shoot
- 46:50for stadiums. Now, like WrestleMania is pretty much guaranteed to be a stadium
- 46:52show. Moving forward, Summerslams getting to that point now, Yeah, I
- 46:58know, breaking news, Uh sorry, breaking news. Uh they're having the
- 47:04Disney senecon right now and they're just announced Miljana too, and the Rock just
- 47:09came out on stage. Final Boss, but go on, it looks like
- 47:16he was chaired, but it's Malajuana. So what do you expect. I
- 47:22expect them fuckers to acknowledge their final Boss like they spoke, rides up your
- 47:28little shits, acknowledge the fucking final Boss. Yeah. So anyway, back
- 47:36to night one. It kicked off with our CEO, our c CEO,
- 47:42Triple H coming out welcoming to everybody to Wrestle media, which was nice,
- 47:47nice hearing the game live an in person. And then our first match was
- 47:55for the UH Women's World Championship, Real Ripley defending against Becky Lynch. Going
- 48:09back and rewatching this match, I felt like this match was much better than
- 48:15how it appeared just watching it live, if that makes sense, Like,
- 48:22yeah, there were things that I saw and things I was able to take
- 48:24in watching the replay that maybe appreciate this match much more than I did when
- 48:30we initially watched it, Like they really went at it and there was much
- 48:36more psychology in this match than I thought. And you know how Real was
- 48:44targeting Becky, and how Becky was throwing damnit everything she could at her to
- 48:50try to take out Real Ripley, and how Real was using her power game
- 48:55to get the best of Becky Lynch and was showing frustration because Beculynch just did
- 49:01not give up. And also the fact that we did not know watching live
- 49:07that apparently Becky Lynch was sick all week and batting strep throat and had a
- 49:13one hundred two degree temperature, so that was part of the that played into
- 49:16the storyline as well of the match. But yeah, like I said,
- 49:22this was actually a really good match watching it play out over, well what
- 49:28rewatching it on television? What were your thoughts on the match? Yeah?
- 49:34I completely agree. It was much better second time around on television than it
- 49:40was there, although it was pretty good there. I kind of wish Becky's
- 49:45entrance hadn't just been a commercial for her book. I wish there had been
- 49:49something bigger than that for her. I don't know Ria though. Ria's entrance
- 49:53having the band player in UH had a pretty good idea that that was going
- 49:59to happen, But I had no idea that, uh, the singer for
- 50:04said band is basically who really is dude? Like spot On? At first
- 50:10I thought it was her singing, Yeah, I realized it was. Yeah,
- 50:16It's probably why she got hair extensions in because so you won't get confused
- 50:22like they did Wonder Twins and long hair reheah. Very nice And it's crazy
- 50:31that she's only twenty seven. This is her fifth WrestleMania already. That's uh,
- 50:37that's pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah, Drey mentioned, I had no
- 50:40idea about the Becky being sick part. Uh And in fact, the only
- 50:45reason I found out is because the minute the match was over, I went
- 50:49to the bathroom and they had the commentary playing and I heard Corey Graham saying
- 50:52that, and I was like, what, like because she was doing book
- 50:55signings and and uh, you know, interviews and but but but you know,
- 51:00was she like typhoid Marrit She's spreading strep throat all over Philly this whole
- 51:05week? Or was the sickness story just the story? I don't know if
- 51:08I'll ever find out. Well, hell, if you got strip from Becky
- 51:12Lynch, that's a hell of a story to tell. People. Yeah right,
- 51:16Yeah, but the match itself, well, this was definitely one of
- 51:20the better matches of the whole card. I thought, I'm not sure what
- 51:23I opened with it, not that it was a terrible decision, but you
- 51:28know, you only had three heels winning all weekend, right, uh So
- 51:32it just kind of seemed odd to start with a heel winning, even though
- 51:37she's not really a heel. I don't know. We can digress about,
- 51:44we can discuss what we think the prospects are, but I don't know how
- 51:50it came. Yeah, because it didn't. It didn't appear to come across
- 51:53that much on t on the replay on the the feed we're watching walk in
- 52:00the replay. But I can definitely tell y'all in stadium heavily cheered, heavily
- 52:07pro Rea crowd. Yeah, I mean it wasn't anti Becky, but no,
- 52:12it was definitely the cheers were louder for real, for sure. Yeah,
- 52:15Like Ria was probably like seventy five twenty five cheers, whereas Becky was
- 52:20more like sixty forty. Yeah. Yeah, it's like there was no hate.
- 52:23It's just that Sorry, there's just a certain wrestler we just like,
- 52:28right now, a little more than yeah what real? Yeah, yeah,
- 52:30it's like no hate Becky, but right now we want Mommy to win.
- 52:36Yeah, exactly in this match. Great psychology, I thought, with you
- 52:40know, Becky, who's the best selling author, if you didn't know,
- 52:44he was in her brains, you know, kind of against Rhea's braun over
- 52:51acting a little bit from Ria on some of those those two counts was kind
- 52:55of a bit much. She was kind of like HBK and that was a
- 53:04Hogan match, and I think it was a Summer Slam just over over everything,
- 53:07Oh god, stream and like a lunatic, and it was. It
- 53:10was a little much so much. When Rha had what was that move the
- 53:19submission she was doing the prison trap. I think they called it on the
- 53:22broadcast. It's like it's like a cloverly when she pulled her back a second
- 53:27time and watching it in person anyway, I was like, holy shit,
- 53:30they're gonna have backy tap at WrestleMania like and then of course that isn't what
- 53:35happened. The finishing sequence was great. Uh. I maybe would have liked
- 53:43to see, oh the rip tide on the turn boxle to the turn buckle,
- 53:46then another riside. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that we've seen
- 53:50that, and you know, they got plenty of time to cook without overstaying
- 53:53the welcome. I think it was seventeen ish minutes right in that area,
- 53:59which was like the perfect time. Five minutes it would have been way too
- 54:04much. Yeah, but like we said, Ria over as fuck. I
- 54:12kind of wonder what's up with Becky though, you know, supposedly she and
- 54:15Seth both have contracts coming up, you know, but I'd be shocked if
- 54:21they don't re sign. But I just kind of felt like a pass into
- 54:23the torch a little bit from Becky ter Rea. I'm not sure Becky,
- 54:29this might be her last contract, I think, and she might slide into
- 54:31like a attrition lead, a part timer kind of role where she just comes
- 54:36back once or once a year, once every other year. So it kind
- 54:42of felt like this was a big time acknowledgment of riha A's like the face
- 54:47of the women's division anyway, and definitely the right decision to have her go
- 54:52over. I think we all uh all called that. And Becky has a
- 54:58book, if you didn't know which, I have an autographed copy. Does
- 55:05she now? Ali? Wayne, what were your thoughts on the match?
- 55:10I kind of agree with you guys. The match was for me. I
- 55:15enjoyed it better once I got to watch do the rewatch. Maybe it's because,
- 55:20uh, you know, that's just the difference commentary can make on on
- 55:24watching matches, because uh, you know, if the crowd's not alive or
- 55:29something, you know, at least commentary can help keep something interesting. But
- 55:34uh, I know I enjoyed this. I enjoyed it as an opening match.
- 55:37Uh. I think it was awesome that she had a live band player
- 55:42in. Uh. It was a great way to start off wrestling name with
- 55:45a live band because everybody's you know, there's a handful of interests we'll talk
- 55:50about that were pretty elaborate, So it was nice having a band play.
- 55:53But yeah, Doyle, like I thought the lead singer of the band spit
- 55:58on image of Rhea, Like, well, you know what, because I
- 56:00thought that, and I looked at I looked it up and to see other
- 56:04pictures of this guy and like he changes his look an awful lot and every
- 56:08single one of them is adopted damn short each tear. Yeah, yeah,
- 56:14it was eerie. Wow a rabbit hole. OK, googled pictures of that
- 56:22guy and it'll be like real looked like that, Real looked like that,
- 56:25real looked like that. Yeah, and I wonder, I mean they went
- 56:30off for seventeen minutes. But I wonder if Becky's health had anything to do
- 56:35with the spot on the card. I doubt it, but uh, I
- 56:38mean, wrestling with a fever, Holy shit, that's gonna suck. It's
- 56:43gonna sucks so bad. Like luckily it was chilly. Maybe that healthed,
- 56:46you know at least, but uh, I know when I have a fever,
- 56:51like, I don't want to do shit like let alone wrestle somebody else
- 56:53in front of seventy something thousand people, and like you said, dre shus
- 56:58on signings and pictures and you know, hats off to her, like you
- 57:02know, like if she's that sick, she shouldn't have been doing that.
- 57:06Oh, I know, unless it was like you know, if she wasn't
- 57:08contagious. You know, I get it, But like I wonder if that
- 57:13was even real or if they just made that part of the start to make
- 57:15her Yeah, but that would like to what make make her look like she's
- 57:20a chink in her armor? Like I don't know, Like, but I
- 57:23I was impressed, Like I didn't. Honestly, I didn't believe that Rio
- 57:28was gonna win. I I I thought like that was where this is where
- 57:31she's gonna stop. And no, it's it seems like she still has a
- 57:35lot to go. There's still a lot of guests in the tank for this
- 57:37championship run. Ah. We kind of got an idea after WrestleMania where she's
- 57:44heading. Uh, but Becky, I think in the position that Becky has
- 57:49set her both in after WrestleMania, I know, it's a motorcycle going by.
- 57:52Goddamn. I definitely see them both taking time off, like just time
- 57:59off, Let's go home, spend time with the kids, let's heal,
- 58:01let's heal our bodies. I know, work on another damn book. Whatever.
- 58:06But I've seen them taking maybe the summer off. I think it might
- 58:10be a good idea to flip the chance of Women's champions put Bailey on raw
- 58:15and Rea back the SmackDown. Yeah, I mean we just Saily away from
- 58:19damage control and give Rea a whole new set of opponents. Yeah, And
- 58:22I know we kinda glanced over, but like they announced the draft and we
- 58:30just had the draft like a couple months ago, because we even did an
- 58:32episode on it, so now you know they're doing the draft again. A
- 58:37couple of months ago. I was twelve months. It seems so recent.
- 58:43It just seems so recent. I think the draft may have been a little
- 58:45bit later, Yeah, a little bit later last year than it was this
- 58:50year, because last year we had a whole pay per view yeah okay,
- 58:53yeah, after Backlash last year, because remember read defended the SmackDown Women's against
- 59:00Alina Vega Y in Puerto Rico at Backlash before before she even went to Raw.
- 59:06So it's it's a little bit earlier this year than last year, and
- 59:09I think that that's probably them learning the lesson from last year with the whole
- 59:15you know spec that with Riez the Spackdown Women's champion going to Raw and then
- 59:21Bianca being the Raw Women's Champion going to speck Down and that whole kerfuffle that
- 59:25we dealt with for a while before they revealed the new titles. So I
- 59:30think they learned like, Okay, this is done, we're new let's just
- 59:35go ahead and just immediately rather than dragged this out, especially given how clean
- 59:40in a sense that WrestleMania ended, like there are very few, if any
- 59:45stories carrying on past wrestlemedia got wrapped up. One's still carrying over is probably
- 59:53Cody and the Rock Everything and Drew and seem punk Drew. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:00:02yeah, Drew and punk things probably. But outside of that, yeah,
- 1:00:06this is about as clean of a break that you'll get from a rough
- 1:00:09one WrestleMania ending. So it's kind of prime for them to switch it up
- 1:00:15and then shift up, shake up the roster, and then start fresh with
- 1:00:20all new storylines, all new opponents. And it's that a third touching on
- 1:00:24the uh excuse me, sething beack you thing. You said you think they'll
- 1:00:30be going to the summer. I think they'll take some time off. I
- 1:00:34wouldn't be surprised. I would not be surprised if it's even longer. I
- 1:00:38think if I had to put money on it, I think because both their
- 1:00:43contracts are set to expire in June. Yeah, okay, I'll be surprised
- 1:00:49if they let those contracts expire and they take the rest of the year off.
- 1:00:54Yeah, and they just take the rest of the whole year off to
- 1:00:58stay home, be parents. Is their daughter, Yeah, he'll love injuries
- 1:01:01and just take a break from everything and then come back next year around you
- 1:01:08know, rumble time. Yeah, I would like that. I would not
- 1:01:12be surprised at all if we I'm pretty sure we may see them maybe one
- 1:01:15or two more times on raw between now and their contracts expiring, And like,
- 1:01:21I don't I'd be surprised if they didn't. If we don't see them
- 1:01:23anymore between now and June, but I would not be. But then again,
- 1:01:28if we don't and we don't see him at all the rest of the
- 1:01:30year, I'm also not surprised. Yeah. Yeah, Like I said,
- 1:01:36I don't know how much. I don't know how much longer Becky's gonna do
- 1:01:39this full time, especially because they got the kid down right seth, I
- 1:01:45could see doing it a little longer, but I could I this felt like
- 1:01:50this felt like passing to the torch. I already said that. Oh yeah,
- 1:01:54I mean she beats Charlotte one year and then Becky the next, back
- 1:01:58to back. I mean, that's a hell of a tors me past.
- 1:02:00That's half the four horse, you know. Yeah, yeah, he slided
- 1:02:09into the part time role. Yeah, and kind of doing what Trican Leada
- 1:02:15has been doing in the past decade. Really, she's at that point where
- 1:02:20she has where she's pretty much spent most of her time putting over and building
- 1:02:23up the next generation stars. She did it for Bioka two years ago,
- 1:02:29she's doing it for Rea now. I could see her. Yeah, I
- 1:02:32totally agreement with you. Her faith just gradually, I could see her having
- 1:02:38another title run. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not saying that she'll never see
- 1:02:43Gold again or anything like that, but I think I think she's going to
- 1:02:45start winding it down in the next three Yeah. I think, like I
- 1:02:52think they let these contracts expire, take some time off, and then when
- 1:02:55they do decide that they're ready to come back, they renegotiate, negotiate new
- 1:03:00contracts with WWE, and hers will probably be a significantly reduced contract, a
- 1:03:06much more of a not a Legends contract obviously, but like a part time,
- 1:03:10simpler way folks pep talent like there is that kind of has a little
- 1:03:16bit of mainstream cred. You know. Sometimes they will go, you know,
- 1:03:22take a six month chunk where they're not under contract and go do some
- 1:03:24of the things they're not able to do for whatever reason because the WWE says
- 1:03:30no, and maybe go do that, you know, ral into that Marvel
- 1:03:34movie. I guess he's been cut out of. But and of course I
- 1:03:37guess they approved, must have approved that or whatever. But you know,
- 1:03:40whatever, whatever it is, go be on family feud or whatever the fuck.
- 1:03:45You know. UH. And they probably have those opportunities, and there's
- 1:03:49some that they can't do or they just don't have time because of the wrestling.
- 1:03:52Then maybe they want to go do uh and then you know, six
- 1:03:55months they'll sign a new deal, you know exactly, yep, sign deal
- 1:04:01part time. You know, the only other option there is for them.
- 1:04:08And I don't see that happening for either one of them. I don't think.
- 1:04:12I don't see either one of them having any even any interest in it.
- 1:04:15Maybe Seth, damn sure, I don't. I don't see it for
- 1:04:19Becky, and even Seth, I don't see it at this point for him
- 1:04:24now, especially not as much as he's talked about WWE and it being like
- 1:04:29his home and his family and all this that the third which I don't think
- 1:04:32that was all k fabe. I think he really believes that. I think
- 1:04:35he really sees w W as home. I don't. I don't think they
- 1:04:41can be whether they're wrestling or not, they can be employed by the w
- 1:04:44W for the rest of their lives more or less, you know, if
- 1:04:47they play their cards right, Yeah, definitely, But yeah, if I
- 1:04:55if I had to put money on it, don't be surprised if we do
- 1:04:59not see Becky or Seth rollins much, if at all, for the rest
- 1:05:03of this year. And I think the w W will be just fine without
- 1:05:08them. Not a knock on them, but I think it makes the heart
- 1:05:15girl fonder, and I think it gives other people an opportunity to step up,
- 1:05:21just as we've seen. We've seen it plenty of times where somebody who's
- 1:05:25on top takes a break, be it due to injury or something else,
- 1:05:30and somebody else's steps into that role and fills that gap left by them.
- 1:05:36Perfect example, WWE in the year two thousand, No stone cold who stepped
- 1:05:42up to become the man, the motherfucking rock, so that somebody could easily
- 1:05:47slide in right now and fulfill that workhorse role of that Seth had as champ.
- 1:05:54Somebody else can step up to be a new face of the women's division,
- 1:06:00and whether whether Rid solidifies herself in that role or somebody else you know,
- 1:06:05steps up alongside her to take that place. You know, TBD,
- 1:06:10but now I think is the it's a perfect opportunity for somebody to step up.
- 1:06:19Any other final thoughts on this match that we've talked about that and then
- 1:06:26some I'm good to move on to start, Okay, all right, So
- 1:06:31moving on from that one. Match Number two was our six pack Tag Team
- 1:06:36Ladder match for the undisputed WWE Tag Team Championships, in which both champions excuse
- 1:06:44me, both championship belts were suspended above the ring, and whatever team retrieved
- 1:06:53a belt became that particular champion. In other words, you get the SmackDown
- 1:06:58belts, you're the SmackDown Champions. Get the Raw belts, you're the Raw
- 1:07:01Champions. Competing in this we had a town Down Under a team of Austin
- 1:07:05Theory and Grayson Waller versus Awesome Truth Miss and Our Truth taking on Judgment Day,
- 1:07:12the defending champions Finnbala and Damian Priest, as well as d I Y,
- 1:07:16Johnny, Johnny Gargano and Tamaso Champa, New Day Gophy Kingston, Xavier
- 1:07:24Woods and New Catch Republic, and half of their entrance theme team of Pete
- 1:07:30Dunn and Tyler Bate, which first things first, obviously, as I alluded
- 1:07:38to. Watching it live, we very much noticed that Newcatch Republic kind of
- 1:07:42got shafted on their entrance because the theme didn't kick in immediately and they came
- 1:07:47out what they came out after awesome, Right, graphics were still up there
- 1:07:54when they were like halfway down the freaking ramp. Yeah, I mean we
- 1:07:58didn't even mention that they had so many audio Yeah, they had so many
- 1:08:03audio video and and just visual mistakes, like issues, so many problems.
- 1:08:14They went early with the d the d I y, I almost said,
- 1:08:18d u I that's very different. Their graphics popped up before they were supposed
- 1:08:25to. The fucking screen above the ring stopped working, right, Oh dude,
- 1:08:31yes, yeah now see Now Now that makes me wonder because obviously what
- 1:08:39we watched, we watched a replay, So I would be curious to anyone
- 1:08:43who watched it live. Could they hear the crowd chanting the way we were?
- 1:08:48Oh yeah, we were turned then turn the screen on to fix the
- 1:08:53screen. I wonder if any of that stuff was picked up live. Clearly
- 1:08:57it wasn't picked up. It didn't come through one the re plate. But
- 1:09:00they could have just edited that out. Yeah, you could. You could
- 1:09:02hear me, and Andrew picked it up. There's a couple of times where
- 1:09:08they were blinding us with the lights, not us specifically, but other people
- 1:09:12were being blind and they were you know, they were shouting, you know,
- 1:09:15turn the lights off, and then when they would, the crowd would
- 1:09:17go nuts. And if you're watching WrestleMania, you'll just see you might not
- 1:09:24hear the chance, but you'll notice when the lights changed because nothing will of
- 1:09:30nothing big will be happening, and all of a sudden you'll get this loud
- 1:09:34pop out of nowhere, and you're like, what the hell is that from?
- 1:09:36When Day missed something? Yeah, you missed the lights going back on?
- 1:09:42Yeah they're off. Yeah, matter of fact, that as you can
- 1:09:45absolutely pinpoint that moment in the match. When we talk, I was talking
- 1:09:48about the screen not working. Oh yeah, watched that match. You can
- 1:09:51absolutely tell when they fixed that screen because just like you described, nothing made
- 1:09:57just happening in the ring, and all of a sudden there's this huge cheer
- 1:10:00from the crowd, and I was like, that's the moment the screen came
- 1:10:01back on. Yeah, out of nowhere. Not seat. You're always wondering
- 1:10:11what's you know, Sometimes we be watching the show and the whole crowd will
- 1:10:15be looking to the left and they're like, what the fuck are they all
- 1:10:16looking at? You know, like maybe there's a fight or something like.
- 1:10:20That's the kind of the things that they're never going to acknowledge on the broadcast,
- 1:10:24right, But you know, the kind of not behind the scenes,
- 1:10:29but like the kind of the being there versus watching it on TV. It's
- 1:10:31kind of kind of things that come through. Cole had a rough. It
- 1:10:36wasn't just the production people fucking stuff up. Cole had a couple he called
- 1:10:42some move that did a pedigree. It was definitely not Yeall Ham and founded
- 1:10:49e c W. Ball Hyman did not found e c W. No,
- 1:10:54not at all. Yeah, but they did. They did openly acknowledge that
- 1:10:59visual miss mess up with Newcast Republic's interest them. They acknowledged that on air.
- 1:11:04Yeah, yeah, nothing. Pat McAfee says something like, take that
- 1:11:09as disrespect, use it to your advantage. Yeah, I mean, I
- 1:11:13don't know if you guys saw it on the raw. I know I'm kind
- 1:11:15of jumping ahead here, but Rall had similar issues. Actually, one of
- 1:11:19the big ones was all the lights on the arena went off, all of
- 1:11:24them and seeing Punk had the mic and he's like, can you turn the
- 1:11:28lights back on him? Oh? No, it's sammy' zan. Yeah.
- 1:11:30It was during the segment between him and I think it was Chad. They
- 1:11:34were in the ring and he was talking and then all of a sudden,
- 1:11:39the lights went out. It's like, can I turn the lights? Can
- 1:11:42you turn the lights back on? I'm not done yet? Oops? Yeah?
- 1:11:46Who the fuck? Like, did you like lean on the keyboard?
- 1:11:49Like? What the hell? So let's get into this mess. Guys getting
- 1:11:58a little laxic days goal. Without the fear of Vincement man there in the
- 1:12:00building, I could there was stuff in this match though. I mean,
- 1:12:08I'll say the match itself was was very was actually a really good and entertaining
- 1:12:12match. They obviously it was a spot fest not all over the place.
- 1:12:17With that many people in it, you can't help but just have spots go
- 1:12:21lore in this in a match like this, But it was good that everybody
- 1:12:27got opportunities to shine. Everybody got their moment to showcase what they can do
- 1:12:32and have stuff. People took some pretty gnarly bumps throughout this match. I
- 1:12:41was surprised at the fact that the SmackDown titles were treat retrieved by a time
- 1:12:48down under seemingly so early in the match. It's almost like they just got
- 1:12:53them out the way real quick, and then almost half the match was everybody
- 1:12:58fighting for the remaining Raw Attack titles. Like, I think we all saw
- 1:13:02that split coming, but they just took any suspense that there that might not
- 1:13:09have been the case out of it by just like over explaining the rules kind
- 1:13:14of, you know, like that the match will continue until each set of
- 1:13:17titles is separately rough, you know, I wish they kind of why do
- 1:13:21you have to say anything? You know, they just they traced like we're
- 1:13:27idiots, basically. Yeah, it was like it was kind of obvious that
- 1:13:30they were going to split the titles up, but Jesus Christ, could you
- 1:13:33could you have at least pretended that it wasn't so obvious, see if they
- 1:13:40wanted to make it more Yeah, the fact that the second you saw you
- 1:13:43looked up and you saw both Raw and both SmackDown belts up, there's like,
- 1:13:47oh, okay, we see what this is. If they want to
- 1:13:50be more suspenseful, they could have just put one of each up there.
- 1:13:55Yeah, I mean that would be plenty just seeing it. You don't have
- 1:13:58to repeatedly tell us over it up. Where do they get Where do they
- 1:14:02get these ladders from a fucking dollar store? Like this was? This was
- 1:14:06some flimsy half ladders. Oh yeah, oh yeah. There was one spot
- 1:14:12where Damien was on one ladder and you could see it buckling and the ref
- 1:14:16and the referee was on the outside. She tried to stop him from climbing
- 1:14:19that ladder. She was trying to let him like, yo, this ladder's
- 1:14:23damage just broken, and he kind of waved off and then climbed up.
- 1:14:26And then I don't know if MZ just was just thinking on the spot,
- 1:14:30just him being a veteran or something, but he quickly rushed up there with
- 1:14:34uh Damien, and then they did there. I guess we're supposed to be
- 1:14:39south of Heaven spot, but he really just kind of threw them off.
- 1:14:42Then they both jumped off. Yeah. I wonder if they had like two
- 1:14:46kinds of ladders, if they had like climbing ladders and ladders they were supposed
- 1:14:50to bump on, and maybe they mixed it up or something, because then
- 1:14:55they get rid of that ladder and then our truth puts another one in,
- 1:14:58like really purposely uh hm, and like that there was a spot I think,
- 1:15:03uh theory or wall or got a moon salt onto the ladder on the
- 1:15:09outside, and that ladder like you could see the paint come off of it.
- 1:15:12You could see it was made at It was not an aluminum ladder.
- 1:15:15No, none of them are. Just like I'm wondering if they had,
- 1:15:19you know, on ones for the spots and then actual other ones to climb
- 1:15:25and they just kind of confused or what, because I can't believe that ladder
- 1:15:28didn't just fall apart that they were They had a couple of guys up and
- 1:15:31down on it and it was just like it was bad. I It was
- 1:15:36funny because my friend that came night too said like, way do you say,
- 1:15:40He goes, did you watch the replant? And I said no,
- 1:15:42not yet. He said, wait, do you see what these ladders looked
- 1:15:45like? He's like, they looked like shit, and he was right,
- 1:15:50yeah, I wonder. I don't know if it's because if they are in
- 1:15:54fact genuinely different letters, because visually they appear the same until they buck.
- 1:16:00And I feel like they've gone away from using true metal ladders quite some time
- 1:16:05ago, just because of the the one. They're more difficult to actually buckle,
- 1:16:12so I don't know if they're using some sort of different material, but
- 1:16:15they still sound metal is Yeah, that's why. That's why I wonder if
- 1:16:18there were two different kinds, because that because the one that think that I
- 1:16:23forget who I think it was Waller went through I mean outside like paint came
- 1:16:27flying out and there was some kind of like orangey material. I don't know
- 1:16:31if that was some kind of foam or what the fuck it was, or
- 1:16:34if they're hollow or something that so that they can break more easily. I
- 1:16:39don't I'll tell you which ladder didn't break that one. There freaking Xavier Woods
- 1:16:44tried to do the spot on and he just moused off. He just he
- 1:16:51just went right at him and up. Yep, all horizontal energy. But
- 1:17:00there there were some fun costumes. Uh, you had d I y and
- 1:17:08then hilariously Our Truth thought he was Sen Michaels and made him tune the band
- 1:17:13up. That was pretty good. Yea, Our Truth right in this match,
- 1:17:15by the way, he wanted to tell again that was hilarious. The
- 1:17:18hot tag, Yeah, that was dope. You had They played doing the
- 1:17:24rocky thing with Apollo and then even Kofi was dressed as Rocky. Yeah.
- 1:17:30Taylor Bait had a fun twist on the airplane spin with the ladder. Oh
- 1:17:38dude, that was and the ladder that was pretty cool. Yeah, And
- 1:17:43I enjoyed this match a lot. Definitely picked up a little bit after the
- 1:17:48Becky. I didn't you know what now anything about most of these on the
- 1:17:54card. I don't think I went to the bathroom doing any of these matches
- 1:17:58because I was thinking about it for this one, but I was like,
- 1:18:00nah, no, I want to see this one, and I'm glad I
- 1:18:03stayed to watch it. I did not see Waller in theory walking out with
- 1:18:11titles. Did not see that, and then they were They were taken out
- 1:18:15of the match then for a little bit, which made sense because, uh,
- 1:18:19you don't want them basically jumping on the ladder right next to it and
- 1:18:23just grabbing the other set of titles. But I did enjoy the gap they
- 1:18:27had in between winning both titles. They weren't done like at the same time
- 1:18:30or back to back. I kind of thought the io I was gonna win
- 1:18:36it. At you know, at some point I definitely knew MS and Our
- 1:18:42Truth were winning a set for sure. Uh our Yeah, our truth like
- 1:18:48hitting all his John Stana moves. Crowd loved it. The crowd is ate
- 1:18:54it up anything our truth did. The crowd loved it. Uh you do.
- 1:19:00You're right to Like all these ladders are they made of like cheap wood?
- 1:19:03Like it was ridiculous ladders we saw broke? Uh I dude? Yeah,
- 1:19:09you guys talk about the attire. I love the attire. I always
- 1:19:13love WrestleMania outfits because they always go buff and beyond, and yeah, I
- 1:19:17love the whole Rocky theme. And then I had laughed so hard when I
- 1:19:23saw di Y come out just as d X and Doyle Team d UI that
- 1:19:29would be the ussos. Yeah, team dy versus Team di I Wy.
- 1:19:35I didn't pick up the d X year in real time at all. Oh
- 1:19:40I did, did not pick up on it at all. Yeah, it's
- 1:19:45hard. It's hard, like like you know, for us, there's a
- 1:19:48lot of stuff we didn't pick up until I bet you went home and rewatched
- 1:19:53it and we we saw a bunch of things that were like, oh shit,
- 1:19:57I didn't know that happened, Like did you know that? Like and
- 1:20:00noticing outfits and yeah, especially like more detailed to outfits. I can notice
- 1:20:09a lot better obviously watching it, even though we had like massive jumbo tron
- 1:20:14right behind our heads. But I wasn't gonna spend my resume and it turned
- 1:20:17around, you know, so yeah we saw what we saw in the front
- 1:20:23of the movie. The yeah yeah, But you know, at the end
- 1:20:27of the day, like I think, like even if you because I brought
- 1:20:32binoculars, but even if you couldn't really see much, I think what titan
- 1:20:36trons they did have worked pretty well. But it's just the atmosphere, the
- 1:20:42crap, just being a part of it, because like I mean, you
- 1:20:45guys know like just one whoo, you're out getting food and you just woo
- 1:20:49just once, and like you get twenty thirty forty people woo when you know
- 1:20:55you're don la night chance, everybody's doing la night chance. You know everybody's
- 1:21:00saying yeat, holy shit the yeats? Uh yeah, always to know yeat.
- 1:21:10But I'll tell you what, like when I did go to the bathroom
- 1:21:12or when I went to go grab food, I was just randomly woo or
- 1:21:15just yell, yeat, because you think about it, fellas, where else
- 1:21:20can you go and just woo or yell, yeat or yell peep to people.
- 1:21:27Yeah, Like where can you do that that it would be acceptable?
- 1:21:30Definitely Not at home depot not acceptable? Yeah right, Uh you know where
- 1:21:36where else is it acceptable to walk like finsic man. I saw people walking
- 1:21:42like fistic man in the parking lot. I saw people dressed like macho man.
- 1:21:45I saw uh yeah, I saw a lot of people dressed as wrestlers.
- 1:21:50It's just like that. And that's what's so great about this culture of
- 1:21:55for wrestling is everywhere, Like yeah, everywhere, Like when we would go
- 1:22:02his whole career this weekend, like when I would out go to Lincoln Financial
- 1:22:08to watch like a football game, an Eagles game, It's like you only
- 1:22:12got fifty percent of the people they are like you. The other fifty percent
- 1:22:15fucking hate you. They don't even know who you are, but they hate
- 1:22:18you because you're wearing that jersey. But in wrestling, it doesn't matter,
- 1:22:25Like, you know, yeah, I may be wearing a Roman Range shirt.
- 1:22:29I know I'm gonna get heat for it, but at the same time,
- 1:22:31it's not serious heat, Like this guy doesn't want to flip over my
- 1:22:36car. Like there's not a riot of people wanting to like flip my car
- 1:22:40in the parking lot because I'm wearing a Roman Range shirt. You know,
- 1:22:43It's not like I don't know of like you know, Chiefs fans come to
- 1:22:47Philly, like, you know, we'll flip your goddamn car after the gaming,
- 1:22:50piece of shit. Like people don't do that in wrestling fans. Like
- 1:22:55wrestling fans are awesome, Like you know, you might have the occasional fan
- 1:23:00that's obnoxious and loud, but at the end of the day, like in
- 1:23:02the parking lot, you could just all the people tailgating were so nice,
- 1:23:09people waiting in line, you know, just everybody I came across, we're
- 1:23:14just so like we were all on the same page. We're all we all
- 1:23:17love this. This is the greatest day of our lives. We're at WrestleMania,
- 1:23:23like, and everybody was just so positive. You know. I'm just
- 1:23:28comparing it from like football games. I've been to baseball games, basketball games,
- 1:23:33hockey games, so it's it's definitely a different feel. And it was
- 1:23:40nice, Like I'm gonna bring Andrew on here at some point, and Dwayne
- 1:23:45and Ron and stuff, and like especially like Andrew she goes to NASCAR,
- 1:23:48She goes to she's going to football and stuff. So I was like,
- 1:23:51well, what's it like being with a ww universe like being with us being
- 1:23:58like, what's it like? She's a It's something completely different and it totally
- 1:24:01is. There's nothing else like it on earth, Like I mean maybe you
- 1:24:08could no, not even boxing, not even UFC. You know, like
- 1:24:12the energy that we have and the passion that we have for something like this,
- 1:24:16you know, and you know, there's weeks that we fucking hate it.
- 1:24:21We hate the content that's coming out. We hate Monday Night Row and
- 1:24:25smack Down. That week it was just absolute garbage. Guess what I'll be
- 1:24:30there next week? How many how much shit over the years have we sat
- 1:24:34through and we're still here, So let's saying something But uh yeah, dude,
- 1:24:42Like but you know, I getting back to this match. I know
- 1:24:45kind of got off trail there, but like getting back to this match.
- 1:24:48Everybody got got their moment to shine in this match. I'm really happy with
- 1:24:53the fallout of the tag team titles. Finally they're split. Even finally even
- 1:25:00McDonough got he did he did so, but like everybody, the thing is
- 1:25:10like I loved it. Like when you can tell when the crowd believes it,
- 1:25:15like this is it, this is the moment, because everybody starts standing
- 1:25:19up and I saw at least seventy thousand people stand up for our truth before
- 1:25:27he grabbed that title because we were all so excited, and what a hell
- 1:25:30of a pop for him. This is I think this is his first WrestleMania
- 1:25:34win. I think so. And with the Miss, you know, I'm
- 1:25:39really I really would love to know what the miss said to him at the
- 1:25:42top of that ladder, But uh dud, congrats to both teams. We
- 1:25:46got an older team, uh or revitalized older team that won the tag team
- 1:25:53titles one last time probably, and then we got a whole new heeled tag
- 1:25:59team to win the title. So honestly, what's that I say you said
- 1:26:03one last time? I was like, well, it could be one last
- 1:26:05time. I think they said in this commentary this is the first time ever
- 1:26:09winning the title because they never won the titles when they were a type team
- 1:26:13before, right, I know they wont the tag titles. I believe they
- 1:26:15won the tag titles before. It's just that it's been like eleven years or
- 1:26:20so. But I just don't see them having another title run. After this,
- 1:26:27I I just think this is just you know, the moment, and
- 1:26:31I'm sure they're gonna they're gonna lose it. They're gonna lose it rough,
- 1:26:35but you know, I'm enjoying the roller coaster ride, guys of Our Truth
- 1:26:42in the Miz, you know, one last run with some gold. So
- 1:26:46yeah, I don't know, I'm just doing it quick. Yeah, some
- 1:26:48resent. I could be wrong because I've just seen the Miz have so many
- 1:26:53tag tag team partners. You know, it's it's hard to tell. I
- 1:26:57thought I remember them saying that, yeah you might great guys. Yeah quick
- 1:27:01looking it says this that their first reign, so I think, yeah,
- 1:27:04I think they they obviously were a tag team before, but yeah, I
- 1:27:08don't think they ever the titles even bigger, even bigger reason and bigger moment
- 1:27:15for them, you know. Uh yeah, I think they've both been tag
- 1:27:18champion. Oh yeah yeah with other people. Yeah, I think Kofi and
- 1:27:27Our Truth were a tag team for a minute, and uh yeah the Mizzen,
- 1:27:32John Morrison and Miss and Big Show and et cetera. So yeah,
- 1:27:39yeah, you're right, you're right, Oh god, yes, yeah,
- 1:27:45this was a great mass again the only the only gripe that I have with
- 1:27:49it, which is, you know, similar to what you said to him,
- 1:27:53is I wish it would have just had a little bit more suspense with
- 1:27:56the finish, if they could have just kind of just help Bury. I
- 1:28:00guess Bury the lead a little bit more in terms of both titles are going
- 1:28:04to be split, if they they could have done a better job of concealing
- 1:28:09that and to let that split happen naturally in the match and let that be
- 1:28:15the suspenseful finish that oh shit, these titles worse have are now split,
- 1:28:21rather than saying basically, I mean the way they announced it, we just
- 1:28:26said that beforehand, that look, we're going to split the titles at WrestleMania.
- 1:28:30Yeah, exactly like it would have been. I think it would have
- 1:28:33been better if it would have just happened and that been like a surprise finish.
- 1:28:38That could have been the one thing that just took this match to the
- 1:28:41next level and if they could have had that. But other than that,
- 1:28:45again, another seventeen minute match. I think they got time to cook without
- 1:28:49staying too long. So far, that's been a good trend on the show.
- 1:28:55Spoiler alert will not continue. Second long match of the night. Actually
- 1:29:00yeah, yeah, this match went for seventeen minutes and twenty five seconds,
- 1:29:04so yeah, second longest match of the night outside of the obvious. Yeah,
- 1:29:11but again, like five more minutes would have been too much. Yeah
- 1:29:15yeah, just the right amount of time. Following this match was my bathroom
- 1:29:20break because I missed the entrances for Raven Stereo and Andrade taking on Santos Escobar
- 1:29:29in Dirty Dominic Mystereo. I don't really know what all there is to say
- 1:29:38about this match, Like, this match kind of just played out as a
- 1:29:42regular tag team match. They didn't really do anything like special for I mean,
- 1:29:46they did have some dope spots in the match, so, I mean
- 1:29:49it was pay per view level obviously. You know, the the sling shots
- 1:29:54splash from the guy from the LWO where they just freaking yeaded his us up
- 1:30:00the ramp onto the Fantasma guys. That was a dope spot. You know,
- 1:30:05might have been doper had I not seen them do it on NXT like
- 1:30:09a few weeks ago. But that's a cool spot. And probably the biggest
- 1:30:14moment of this match was the two mashed white guys coming out the audience and
- 1:30:19chucking MDB the to the ring post and then throwing them back in the ring.
- 1:30:26Those two mass guys being revealed as Jason Kelcey of the Philadelphia Eagles retired
- 1:30:30and Lane Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles, which again cool spot, obviously dope
- 1:30:35hometown thing to do, But the match itself was just kind of so so
- 1:30:43just okay, nothing really special of that grand about it? Would you?
- 1:30:47What were your thoughts, Doyle? Uh, you know, I don't think
- 1:30:50in real time I realized that this was a sponsored match. I think we
- 1:30:55all had the faces winning anyway. But but if we all know Ray Maisterio
- 1:30:59does not lose sponsored matches. Yeah, I mean, not really a whole
- 1:31:02lot to add here. There were a couple of cool things. That double
- 1:31:08crossbody that Ray and Androtti did was fucking awesome off the turn buckle to the
- 1:31:15outside. That was pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad that
- 1:31:21they didn't make this another gang war match because we already had one. I
- 1:31:26think we had speculated on whether there would be two, but they still managed
- 1:31:29to get everybody involved, which is cool. What I was interested to see
- 1:31:38at what point the mask men were introduced, because I feel like we knew
- 1:31:43about it way before it showed up on the broadcast. Maybe just because of
- 1:31:46where we were sitting, you could kind of you could see him coming.
- 1:31:51But that was cool. I mean, you want to get I think we
- 1:31:54all knew that Jason Kelcey would show up somewhere over the course of the weekend.
- 1:32:00That seemed as good place as any to put him. Yeah, I
- 1:32:04mean it was a fun match. It was just kind of a filler.
- 1:32:09I guess, for lack of a better word, I kind of hope this
- 1:32:14is the end of would turned out to not be that great a feud between
- 1:32:18Ray and Escobar. I'm kind of done with that. It seems like it
- 1:32:27had all kinds of potential and it never really let up to much of anything.
- 1:32:30I'm wondering about the coming out of this. I guess Carlito is maybe
- 1:32:34upset he wasn't in this match, But other than that, I think we
- 1:32:42all all parties should go move on to something else. Definitely, like this
- 1:32:46thing is run its course, and it didn't do much running. So yeah,
- 1:32:51I'm perfectly content with you know, look out all the fantasma moving on
- 1:32:58to beef wit whoever. I don't know, maybe they start beefing with Lashley
- 1:33:01and them now and then I would hope that these two groups get split up
- 1:33:05in the draft and then we deal with woman inside drama between l w O
- 1:33:13and what have you. Which, Yeah, for being factions like this that
- 1:33:18seemed to have so much promise, especially l WO when they were first revealed,
- 1:33:23when they remember when Ray first gave them them shirts and was like,
- 1:33:26oh shit, l WO. We really thought it was gonna be something.
- 1:33:29Yeah, it hasn't been. Got the l w O black and red.
- 1:33:34You know, it's been very, very lackluster, Like probably the you could
- 1:33:42argue probably the best moment that the whole faction has had was the Lada Vegas
- 1:33:45match at Backlash last year in Puerto Rico. That's probably the best moment that
- 1:33:51l WO as a faction that's really had. But other than that, it
- 1:33:57is it's been a real letdown and it's all It almost seems like they brought
- 1:34:00in like got ol Fit del Fantasma to try to be what LWO couldn't be,
- 1:34:05is that really prominent Hispanic group because just didn't seem to get over.
- 1:34:13So the shirts sold like crazy, but that's about it. Either break the
- 1:34:15LW up or at least separate the two groups something because I think, yeah,
- 1:34:23they can be doing much better than what they have been. It's just
- 1:34:28unfortunately, just poor booking, poor storyline planning. Well, so now we've
- 1:34:33got two we've got two tag champions now championships now, So hopefully maybe maybe
- 1:34:41the ashes of those factions, you know, go back to being tag teams
- 1:34:45and yeah, or they get yeah, or one faction gets moved over to
- 1:34:50Raw and while one remains on SmackDown and then hey, look, representation,
- 1:34:56you got Hispanic faction on each show, right poison shout out to race,
- 1:35:02Uh bring it tire though the Philadelphia Eagles gear. Dude, Yeah, I
- 1:35:08liked it. Any other thoughts on this match? Oh well, oh wait,
- 1:35:15yeah, no school, I was waiting for you guys to wrap up.
- 1:35:17Uh no, you know what, as uh Carlito would say, I
- 1:35:23like to spit in the face of matches that aren't cool, And this was
- 1:35:28a match that was put together after we did our episodes. It was like
- 1:35:32last minute with some replacements. Uh. You know, I kinda talked about
- 1:35:39it back when Dragon Lea was quote unquote entered in the lw O. I
- 1:35:45I kind of thought like, oh this, I think the seeds are being
- 1:35:48planted for Carlito turning heel. I thought we would see that WrestleMania. I
- 1:35:55also thought we would just get a full on LWO versus Locatto delphint Asthma.
- 1:36:00Instead we got tag matches. Ah yeah, but we didn't need to like
- 1:36:05we have we had that match on that Yeah, that's the thing, is
- 1:36:09like, yeah, exactly, I like I get it. We kind of
- 1:36:15got Oh they somehow found a way to get Dominic and Ray to go against
- 1:36:18each other at WrestleMania. You know again, so but yeah, he tricked
- 1:36:25us, but yeah it was super forced. Like this guy who's not even
- 1:36:30in my stable is interfering in this because my stable can't take care of the
- 1:36:35job. You know. Uh I I I guess if there was a bathroom
- 1:36:45break, this would have been mine, But I guess I didn't have to
- 1:36:47go at the time. I feel like I've seen a number of combinations of
- 1:36:56these matches, like every week on SmackDown, Like I've seen it two on
- 1:37:02two, two on three, three on three, one on one, one
- 1:37:05on one, you know, the women versus each other, Like I just
- 1:37:10yeah, I'm just I'm just exhausted with the feud in general, and I'm
- 1:37:14getting at the same point with Carrion Cross's group, and at Bobby Lashley's group,
- 1:37:19I'm getting to that same point where it's like, Okay, the feud
- 1:37:23is done, Like can we move on? So Dre, I agree,
- 1:37:29like, hopefully when the draft comes it'll split these teams up. I do
- 1:37:33want to see them still together, but I just want to see him split
- 1:37:35a one different rosters and maybe come across each other again at Survivor Series or
- 1:37:42The Rumble or but for right now, let's cool it off. Okay,
- 1:37:46with the LW one, we get it. They're they're better, they clearly
- 1:37:50have way more members, but yet they would always still lose a week after
- 1:37:56week for some odd reason. I don't understand how that worked when you guys
- 1:38:00had many, many more members, but whatever, because you wouldn't tell.
- 1:38:05Based upon watching on SmackDown, you basically think that the ol WO was Ray
- 1:38:11Carlito and Zelina Vega. The other two motherfuckers would be backstage one moment and
- 1:38:15then watch Regaz stomped out the next moment, and not do ships was in
- 1:38:21the bathroom or someonere Rega was worn out from their main event match before the
- 1:38:26SmackDown tapings or what. But again, just dumb booking. You got all
- 1:38:32these members and yet half of them just sit around and just watch the other
- 1:38:35ones get the shit kicked out on every week. Dude. It tries me
- 1:38:40nuts because somebody gets jumped him, like where's where's Carlito? Yeah, n
- 1:38:46WO would never let that happen. That's why I would never let that happen.
- 1:38:50I was starting to call them Loser World Order because they were just losing
- 1:38:56matches, like every fucking week. Damn, you got more, got you
- 1:39:00get more than sixty seconds working offense, off Rick Flair, the whole force
- 1:39:04coming out there and whooping your ass and while we get watched reggae. This
- 1:39:10ship kicked in from one commercial break to the other, and the mother two
- 1:39:14motherfuckers are just still in the back dammit, playing cards like that. That's
- 1:39:19what we should have had as a backstage segment, just Ray come back there
- 1:39:23and just cussing them the funk out in Spanish. What's y'all? Yeah?
- 1:39:30Whooped for the last five minutes. We're familiar. I will beat you with
- 1:39:33the belt like I beat my son, which I was disappointed we didn't get
- 1:39:40that this year. We almost did. We didn't need to do that same
- 1:39:45troat no more down and grown up. Now, ain't the little version that
- 1:39:48fought his dad last year? Yeah yeah, you got Bobby Juice on them
- 1:39:53now. I like that, But eleven MISSI a little too long. But
- 1:40:02it's funny how the next match we have on the card is exactly eleven minutes
- 1:40:08and five seconds as well, and also exactly it's disappointing. Yeah, oh
- 1:40:14yeah, let's hear it, let's let's move on. It was the brotherly
- 1:40:18brawl, the clash of ken folk, the squabble over the super kicks they
- 1:40:26do so versus Jimmy who so, and quite frankly, the best part of
- 1:40:30this match was the damn promo leading up to it. Yeah, oh yeah,
- 1:40:36the video package was good. That video package was fucking excellent. That
- 1:40:41shit was fucking Chef's kiss. Only if only we had known the utter disappointment
- 1:40:46we were in for after that shit, because that thing damn show built it
- 1:40:50up like, oh, it's about to go down, brother, Oh brother,
- 1:40:54it's about to be some emotion. It's about to be this a third,
- 1:40:57it's about to be thirty five super kick. Well, your first clue
- 1:41:01that things were about to go awry should have been Uh, Lil Wayne announces
- 1:41:08the greatest rapper of all time? Right, first move I forgot about.
- 1:41:15I was like, whoa, whoa came down like this, ain't I don't
- 1:41:21see j nowhere passed away? What happened? I don't think somebody's about to
- 1:41:27reintroduce themselves. Their name is Hove. And then, of all songs for
- 1:41:32Wayne to come out, so he came out to a milli or to perform
- 1:41:36a milli, which a millie is not a bad song. It's a banger,
- 1:41:41it's a bona fide banger, but it's not an arena song. It's
- 1:41:45not the type of song that you play an arena that you when you're trying
- 1:41:47to build up a whole lot of energy, especially when you're playing up a
- 1:41:51guy like j Ousso who comes out with one of the hypeest themes in wrestling.
- 1:41:58Right now. Well, they had advertised that Lil Wayne was gonna perform
- 1:42:01his new single. That was like how he was advertised. And then he
- 1:42:05came out and only thank god, he was only on for thirty seconds.
- 1:42:10And then we went to Jay who was real song. Yeah, I'm gonna
- 1:42:14play something for you guys, real quick. I want you to tell me
- 1:42:16if you're gonna understand these lyrics. I'm my young money milliari my pride,
- 1:42:26your compete, but your conades isn't there. I'm gonna read you d Jesus
- 1:42:30true in league on a sheet. I'm telling him I don't right because I
- 1:42:36got time. I mean, child hip hop, I know exactly what the
- 1:42:45hell he says. I mean, like I got I know the lyrics.
- 1:42:47I know the lyrics right, but like I was just like it sounded like
- 1:42:54he was just like I was like a child, just babbling about nothing to
- 1:43:00You're absolutely right when she when she said the greatest rapper of all time?
- 1:43:05I immediately was like, fucking what now? What did you just fucking say?
- 1:43:11Like who the fuck told you to say that? They really throw their
- 1:43:15greatest blah blah blah blah blah blah A long time dude, every every celebrity
- 1:43:20like t Pain, was that the greatest of all time? Like no,
- 1:43:25he's not. Yeah right that somebody really need to have a meet with W.
- 1:43:30Like somebody at t KO need to have a meet with w W about
- 1:43:32that. Like y'all need to calm down with the goat ship. Okay,
- 1:43:36and that ain't for y'all to declare. Y'all just because y'all say it,
- 1:43:39don't make it true. Although I didn't enjoy the goat, little Wayne is
- 1:43:45the goat. I did enjoy being part of the Yeat crowd. That was
- 1:43:49nice. You know, when when Jay Uso came out, uh nothing really
- 1:43:55to do. When Jimmy Usso comes out tome which is so weird. You
- 1:43:58know, you got Jay, he's got he got the hand motions, he
- 1:44:00got the the Yeat. But you thought Jimmy may have maybe I don't know,
- 1:44:05maybe would have thought of a no Yeat chant or something. But his
- 1:44:10music wasn't, I don't know, not as catchy as Jay's. But I
- 1:44:13think that's done on purpose. Ah. What a disappointing fucking match. I'll
- 1:44:20tell you what, guys. I was excited for this match because I don't
- 1:44:26think i've seen them versus each other ever. You know, I've always seen
- 1:44:30them and known them as a tag team. But we talked about this match
- 1:44:33as being a potential show stealer. Yeah, but here's the thing is,
- 1:44:40like you got two wrestlers who have almost the same I mean, obviously they're
- 1:44:45fucking twins, but they have like the same move set. I think that
- 1:44:53was part of the problem. I think that was part of the problem too.
- 1:44:56Yeah, it's just too it'd be like I don't know, like it's
- 1:45:00just like in a video game when you choose the thing about of an old
- 1:45:02WrestleMania game, Doyle, where you would have like Razor Ramone Shawn Michaels the
- 1:45:08Undertaker in there, right, but you had the option of picking like Razor
- 1:45:12Ramone, Like three people could pick Razor Ramone, but he would just had
- 1:45:15different colored tights on. But it was not as fun wrestling with three Razor
- 1:45:20Ramones. You know, this is not as fun or like when you're playing
- 1:45:25two K by yourself and you're like, I'm gonna have a whole team of
- 1:45:28Undertakers where I had the Badass Undertaker, the Ministry or Darkness Undertaker. Even
- 1:45:34then you know, like you know, some guys are big and strong and
- 1:45:39some are smaller and faster, and you know it's you know, you want
- 1:45:42to match up a little guy and a big guy, or a power guy
- 1:45:45and a technical guy or whatever, and when you just have yeah, like
- 1:45:48you said, player one and player two the same person. Yeah, I
- 1:45:53mean, there's no there's no miss mash you know. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:45:58I mean that's how the fighter to you and Ken. There you go,
- 1:46:02prime example. I mean, do you guys remember how awesome by Nikki Bella
- 1:46:10versus Brebella. You guys remember that fucking knee slapper of a match? That
- 1:46:15was awesome? Right? Are your top ten top ten favorite matches of of
- 1:46:21siblings ever? Like the best had to be the best twins match ever?
- 1:46:28Right, No, it's just it just sucks. It's just doing well.
- 1:46:33Most sibling matches are pretty I mean the Hardy's matches were terrible. Is really
- 1:46:40the only really because you got two great technical wrestlers, they can go yes,
- 1:46:47master classic match with each other. Yeah, I mean we you would
- 1:46:51think, okay, the Hardy boys when they verse each other, what are
- 1:46:56we gonna get a lot of We're gonna get a lot of high flying moves,
- 1:46:58people going through table right, what are we gonna get with uh,
- 1:47:02let's say the Bellas or a lot of hair pulling, a lot of slapping?
- 1:47:05Right, what are we gonna get with Dosos? A shipload of supercakes?
- 1:47:11So I guess deep down I kind of expected this, but at the
- 1:47:16same time, I was like, nah, this is it's gonna be different,
- 1:47:18right, We're gonna get like a top quality match here. Five stars
- 1:47:27fuck was iral and I think we all picked Jimmy, right, and I
- 1:47:31think yeah, yeah, missed the opportunity to do right on top of having
- 1:47:38a bad match, you go with the clean baby face Jay husso win.
- 1:47:42Yeah, I mean it just did nothing for Jimmy at all, just buried
- 1:47:46me even further than he's already been buried. Yeah, I mean, and
- 1:47:50we were even talking about how much better Jay's presentation is, his entrance and
- 1:47:56everything is, and then you just ship like Jimmy, it just seems less
- 1:48:00than in every conceivable way, right. You know, I'm not sure who
- 1:48:05who who the producer of it was, the back you know, whoever helped
- 1:48:11them help literally helped them put it together. But I mean they had to
- 1:48:15have known that this was gonna be a wet fart right, Like right,
- 1:48:18how match meeting goes five star classic, you know? And it seemed appropriate
- 1:48:25that this one was sponsored by dudeps because it was pretty shitty. Yeah,
- 1:48:31production meeting go for this match, like I his what happy he go gun
- 1:48:35down? You go dive out the ring, tackle, throw him in the
- 1:48:40ring and then you're gonna superkick him, and then he gonna superkick you,
- 1:48:45and then you will get a whole bunch of the men on him. He
- 1:48:46gonna say he's sorry. Did he gonna kick you? Did? He gonna
- 1:48:49start kicking you a whole lot? And then you gonna duck one and you
- 1:48:54gonna spear him, you go splash him, and that's it, and the
- 1:48:57people are gonna love it, and that fake apology bullshit like that? Do
- 1:49:05you guys? Do you guys remember that being aware that that was going on
- 1:49:12because of how the crowd was reacting. But I was hard looking up at
- 1:49:16the screen and seeing that, Okay, he's doing the whole I'm sorry thing,
- 1:49:19And that moment could have been so much. It could have had weight
- 1:49:24to it, It could have had impact to it, had the match been
- 1:49:27better leading into that, had they not already lost the crowd with just a
- 1:49:32ton of super kicks, had we actually got like a real hard hitting match
- 1:49:36where they were really going at it and not just kicking each other, really
- 1:49:41doing moves or taking even just fighting outside fight outside the fucking ring. And
- 1:49:47and like those turbuckle, those flighting some steps and then something they mentioned,
- 1:49:54but why wasn't he there? You know, why wasn't he in the front
- 1:49:56round? Wife there? That would have helped so much. She start watching,
- 1:50:01yep, imagine the camera. Imagine a moment where like Jimmy has or
- 1:50:08Jay is laid out on the Spanish renown's table, and you got Jimmy climbing
- 1:50:14onto the turnbuckle ready to splashing from the outside, and paired in between two
- 1:50:17of them, you see Rakishi watching all or Rakesh's like, no, not
- 1:50:23this, and he jumps over the turn rope rail and stands in front of
- 1:50:26his brother like no, no, don't do it, don't do it,
- 1:50:29and Jimmy's like, I did it for the rock decides it either jumps anyway,
- 1:50:35and you know, maybe Dad pulls Jay out the way and Jimmy goes
- 1:50:41crashing into the table and now Dad's like, fuck, I saved Jay at
- 1:50:45the cost of Jimmy and now he's trying to check on Jimmy or something like
- 1:50:48that. There could have been so much more storytelling done in this match.
- 1:50:53They could have done so much more. It just it really feels like they
- 1:50:57just phoned it in. That they really just phoned it in. And I
- 1:51:01could understand that maybe if Jimmy had won and we knew that this was just
- 1:51:08the first round of a series and that we could have something looking to look
- 1:51:12forward to moving forward, like Okay, they're gonna step it up next time,
- 1:51:15We're gonna get more next time. But instead, Nah, Jay's over.
- 1:51:18There's no reason for a rematch, and this match should have been six
- 1:51:23months ago. Like I know they wanted to wait till many or whatever,
- 1:51:26but like I don't care. There's no there's no there there anymore. There
- 1:51:29wasn't worth it. He was deucesses. You know, that's when you should
- 1:51:35have had this match. On that Okay, that part I disagree, though
- 1:51:41I think they were I think they were still right by keeping them apart and
- 1:51:45keeping it to a wrestlemedia. It's just what they did in the meantime filling
- 1:51:49the gap. They did everything right on one side in terms of j but
- 1:51:56they didn't give Jimmy the same investment because they put him back with the bloodline
- 1:52:01and basically had them being comedy relief in the bloodline, comic relief in the
- 1:52:06blood line, rather than developing him as his own individual. Because regardless of
- 1:52:12everything that happened when they came out when they were one and two in the
- 1:52:15rumble, we was hype and shit when we saw that stare down, everybody
- 1:52:19couldn't wait to see them to go at it. So the anticipation in the
- 1:52:23hype had always been there up until the bell rung. It's just the final
- 1:52:29product was such a stinker that it's just it sours the whole thing. It
- 1:52:34sours these not just the match itself, it sours the whole last six months
- 1:52:40of build up because now that that sucked, we're looking back at it and
- 1:52:44realizing, oh, this wasn't just a mistake of the match that like the
- 1:52:47mistakes were made prior to this match. Yeah, I mean this was the
- 1:52:56worst match I saw a weekend. Oh yeah, we saw we saw fellow
- 1:53:00Fonso versus Joel gerdiner that we did and that was a piece of that we
- 1:53:06did. Yeah, in terms of this wrestlemand card, this was definitely the
- 1:53:12most disappointing match. And yeah, yeah, I agree, this is the
- 1:53:16worst. This was the worst match of the whole pay per view. Yeah,
- 1:53:19the the i w C is calling it the worst match ever. It
- 1:53:23is not that I ever, no, but yeah, I would say the
- 1:53:27worst match on the card. Yeah, worst match on the card. Definitely
- 1:53:30most disappointing match on the card. This is this is the most disappointing match
- 1:53:35I can think of him quite a while. Actually, I don't know what.
- 1:53:41Yeah, so I guess we can move on to this from this one.
- 1:53:45I don't know if there's any more dunking on this one that we can
- 1:53:47do, right, we wanted something a bit better, yeah, with Black
- 1:53:58Girl Magic taking on Asian Persuasion. In other words, damage Control Dakota,
- 1:54:08Kai Oscar and Kyrie Say taking on the Powerhouse trio of Naomi, Jade,
- 1:54:15Car Gill and Bianca bell Air now off top. Uh, damage Control had
- 1:54:25a dope entrance, like just the the video package, the the the graphics
- 1:54:31associated with their entrants, with the what was it the blossom cherry Jerry blossoms
- 1:54:39is it? Yeah, all the cross like blowing into like it was a
- 1:54:45dope entrance. The entrance that uh, Jay, Bianca and Naomi had.
- 1:54:55Probably because we were on the opposite side of the stadium from it, we
- 1:54:59didn't really get I didn't see it that well. No, I saw them,
- 1:55:02yeah, Like we saw them setting up beforehand, like like okay,
- 1:55:05something's going down over there, like they're setting up something, but from our
- 1:55:10season it was hard to pick up. So seeing it on the replay,
- 1:55:14I was like, oh, okay, it's still kind of lazy and kind
- 1:55:17of simple, but okay, like they basically just had them lifted up.
- 1:55:23They lowered them down, all right, a little bit of Jay's music.
- 1:55:27There was a real lack of big entrances. I mean there were more Sunday
- 1:55:31than Saturday, but just in general, yeah, Saturday is a whole so
- 1:55:36much bigger, and it just I mean we didn get certainly got some.
- 1:55:41Yeah, just overall, I thought the entrances were kind of lackluster. Yeah,
- 1:55:46yeah as a whole. Sunday, I mean, Saturday just felt very
- 1:55:49muted compared to Sunday, just as a whole. Yeah. But nevertheless,
- 1:55:55the match itself was fairly good. It was more watching replay, I've realized
- 1:56:00that match was a little bit more competitive than it appeared live. Like live,
- 1:56:04it came across as a squash. Watching the replay, I was like,
- 1:56:08oh damnage control did get a little bit of offense and still was more
- 1:56:12or less a glorified squash, like a gentleman sweep more or less. But
- 1:56:16the match was at least better in the replay than watching it live. It
- 1:56:24was good. Nail Me had some good moments of offense. Bianca went out
- 1:56:29there and practically soloed the group for a little while. Jay ed Her came
- 1:56:34in there and made it short and sweet, beast beast finisher done though,
- 1:56:40so good match. Not nothing special or extraordinary, but good enough match.
- 1:56:47But regardless, I am still here for the three of these women, and
- 1:56:55I hope that they keep them together for all of twenty twenty four. And
- 1:56:59I'm by all of them. I mean, Jade, Bianca, and nail
- 1:57:01Me. They need to be a faction or a click or something, whether
- 1:57:04you give them a name, whether they go by Big three or whatever,
- 1:57:10they need to say together for all of this year. And I want to
- 1:57:12see them dominate all of this year, because, honestly, the favorite.
- 1:57:17I don't know if y'all watch the press conference for Saturday, but they were
- 1:57:26the All three of them came out for the press conference post Mania Saturday.
- 1:57:30They got genuine chemistry with each other, like they interact with each other a
- 1:57:34lot, like they legit homegirls that have known each other for a long time.
- 1:57:40I don't know how long. Bianca and jaydo know each other, but
- 1:57:44their interactions with each other and how they hang out with each other, like
- 1:57:46it feels real and genuine. It's so much fun. And I want to
- 1:57:50see that what I saw in that press conference translate to them on screen in
- 1:57:56the ring. If they can make that happen and let that be like their
- 1:58:00dynamic throughout the year before the inevitable breakup, but that could be their dynamic
- 1:58:04throughout the year, that will be phenomenal and I will love every second of
- 1:58:09it because I loved seeing them in that press I almost love the press conference
- 1:58:13with them three more than the match itself, Like that's how that's how enjoyable
- 1:58:17it was watching them just interact with each other. Like I said, it
- 1:58:20was dope. The one knock. If I would knock anything on this match,
- 1:58:25it would be on Jade car Gill, just in the sense that we
- 1:58:29still have yet to see her take any bumps. Everything we've seen from her
- 1:58:35so far has just been come in and squash and dominate, so it's hard
- 1:58:42to Still it's still kind of hard to gauge what kind of progress she's made
- 1:58:46since joining WW and since putting time down in the PC because we haven't seen
- 1:58:53her take bumps or having to take any spots from anybody or be any in
- 1:58:58the ring for a really any extended period of time. And I don't know
- 1:59:02if it was intended that way or not, but at one point it almost
- 1:59:05seemed like she got a little bit lost in the match and got caught up
- 1:59:10a little bit because when she first came in the ring and she uh dropped
- 1:59:14Dakota, then dropped Osca and then started, you know, stritting to the
- 1:59:18crowd and talking smack. Then they cut over to Kyrie sitting on the top
- 1:59:23turbuckle and she's like hey and yelling at her. So I don't know if
- 1:59:27she was just doing that as part of the spot or if that was like
- 1:59:30her like like hey, get back into the match, like trying to get
- 1:59:33her attention, to get her focused back in the match. Like you can
- 1:59:36almost read that moment either way between the two. But again, that's a
- 1:59:42minor gripe. There's still plenty of time for Jay to develop and show us
- 1:59:47what she is or show us what kind of progress she's actually made throughout the
- 1:59:51time. But again, overall, good match, Wayne, What were your
- 1:59:57thoughts, you know, I think they I don't think they did the entrance
- 2:00:03correctly. I think they botched the timing of some of the music when the
- 2:00:06girls were coming down, and it's it kind of sucked because like their music
- 2:00:14was like like our music, it's like thirty seconds not even. So we
- 2:00:18were getting like little tiny bits of entrance because I love Jake Cargle's and the
- 2:00:25like new entrance the way they have it, so I was kind of hoping
- 2:00:28to see that on it on its own in a WrestleMania scale. They kept
- 2:00:33her pretty protected in this match, Like you said, she hasn't taken any
- 2:00:36pumps yet. Uh, I'm hoope. You know, this was definitely a
- 2:00:44squash match of sorts, which is kind of weird seeing that happen to Damage
- 2:00:49Control considering they're dominating, you know, the past couple of months and they
- 2:00:55have the they're holding onto the women's tag titles. So now I hope you
- 2:01:00know now that they were squashed so damn easily. It's like, okay,
- 2:01:05girls, go get those tag titles. Like I, like I said before,
- 2:01:12like I want this team to stay together long after WrestleMania, so I
- 2:01:15hope this is a new stable. You know, let's get the tag titles.
- 2:01:21Let's want to bring over a women's title, you know, or if
- 2:01:25we get a mid Cary women's title, like an NXT, like, yeah,
- 2:01:30let's let's get that. But like, I want to see these girls
- 2:01:32stay together. I kind of don't know what's gonna happen to Damage Control now
- 2:01:40that Becky's gone. Are they just gonna continue with Dakota Kai and the other
- 2:01:45three? Uh? Who knows at this point. But yeah, I overall
- 2:01:51I did enjoy this match, even though it was one of the shortest matches
- 2:01:57on the car. But uh, it was kind of nice seeing them like
- 2:02:02just literally dominate them, especially after Damage Control has been dominating the entire year.
- 2:02:10So yeah, I I I enjoyed it, not a bathroom break.
- 2:02:16So in terms of the Big Three or whatever we're gonna call them, but
- 2:02:27for they by the way, uh, there's only one Big three and it's
- 2:02:30Robert Parrish, Kevin Mchall, Larry Bird. Actually it's Narutzo Bleach in one
- 2:02:34piece. But go on, I don't know what any of that out there
- 2:02:44listening? Who know, I I do? Uh, two words did come
- 2:02:47to mind, Well, you guys were discussing them sticking together, and those
- 2:02:51two words are fabulous free birds. Uh, it might be cool if they
- 2:02:57did kind of a thing like that, uh, where the three of them
- 2:03:00hold the titles and they kind of have different configurations or whatever. They might
- 2:03:04be interested. Yeah. I mean this match pretty much existed to showcase Jade
- 2:03:10and you know, give her a WrestleMania moment or whatever. Bianca remains undefeated
- 2:03:15at WrestleMania. Oscar remains winless at WrestleMania, which is kind of crazy.
- 2:03:21If they're going to keep Jade in a tag team, though, they need
- 2:03:25to teach her the rules of tag team wrestling, and that is to make
- 2:03:28a legal tag you need to have both your feet on the mat and be
- 2:03:30touching the tag ropes. She was doing neither of those things when she tagged
- 2:03:35into the match. There was nothing wrong with this. It just kind of
- 2:03:39felt more like a SmackDown match than a WrestleMania match to me, And I
- 2:03:45don't I feel like all six of these ladies des are better than that.
- 2:03:49Not that it was their fault or anything. Nobody nobody's performance lacked. I
- 2:03:54didn't think One thing, though, I will say stood out in the crowd
- 2:04:00was how loud Bianca's hair whip was. I forget who she hit with it,
- 2:04:05but fucking yeah, he was loud, and that was kind of cool
- 2:04:13to see, especially because you know, several days before that, we were
- 2:04:17in a nice auditorium listening to her talk and she was, you know,
- 2:04:21just as nice as could be. Uh, you know, everything you'd expect,
- 2:04:26and then some uh, just a fucking awesome, awesome, fucking person.
- 2:04:30And it's funny to see her her in that setting and then back here,
- 2:04:35you know, where she's aggressive and kicking ass or whatever. Yeah,
- 2:04:41I mean you know her, I've you know, set it before her and
- 2:04:45back here my favorite one in one ah. So it was always always cool
- 2:04:48to see her. But that that that that that whip man was that loud.
- 2:04:55Yeah, and it will almost made wonder like there was some sort of
- 2:05:00on effects going on in there, because the way that motherfucker resonated in that
- 2:05:03damn stadium was like, shit, yeah, that was pretty far because we
- 2:05:11heard it all the way back where we were sitting. Yeah, and not
- 2:05:15like barely heard it. We heard that was loud and clear. That's why
- 2:05:20that's why you heard the whole stateum go oh yeah, like damn definitely impressive.
- 2:05:30Yeah, but oh man, I didn't even think about a fabulous freebird
- 2:05:33concept for those three. That would be pretty damn dope cool. That would
- 2:05:42be super cool, and yeah, I'm I'm here for that. Yeah.
- 2:05:45Hopefully w W realizes what they have in those three and they let them cook
- 2:05:53for again. If it was up to me, I'd let them cook all
- 2:05:56year, let him cook all year, and then next year so you can
- 2:06:00do the breakup and then and I know some people were thinking like, eventually
- 2:06:05break them up and then do Jade Cargill versus Bianca bel Air when you break
- 2:06:10them up, But if it were me, I would do a triple threat
- 2:06:14match rather than have them break up and then just cast one of them to
- 2:06:18the side. I'll let the two bigger, bigger names be in the match,
- 2:06:21have a one v one Let all three of them go at it in
- 2:06:25a triple threat match, whether one of them is the champion is defending against
- 2:06:30the other two, or if it's just a maybe no title involved and it's
- 2:06:35just all three of them in a triple threat match against each other for whatever.
- 2:06:41I think, if if you're gonna let all three of them rock for
- 2:06:45the year, then the breakup needs to involve all three of them, not
- 2:06:49just one of them, not like Biaka and Jade beef and and Naomi has
- 2:06:55to pick a side like yeah, no, I agree with you. I'm
- 2:06:59I expressed my fears that Naomi would get the short end of the stick here
- 2:07:05if this trio continues on just because Beyonca's Bianca and they're gonna push the fucking
- 2:07:13to the moon, you know Jade, right, And it just kind of
- 2:07:16makes me nervous about what's what's left for Naomi there. It'll be a tough
- 2:07:24road to ho I think a fine line to walk, if you will,
- 2:07:27m hm. And her as the veteran of the group, I think she
- 2:07:30deserves that shine. She deserves to be just as significant a part in the
- 2:07:35breakup as Bianca and Jade. So let all three of them be put each
- 2:07:42other. Let all three let Naomi be pissed off at Bianca and Jade,
- 2:07:45let jd be pissed off at Bianca and Naomi, and let Bianca be pissed
- 2:07:47off at Jade and Naomi, and let them all just completely clash with each
- 2:07:53other in a triple threat match at WrestleMania forty one. I think that would
- 2:07:59be dope and a good way too. I think that could be an excellent
- 2:08:05climax to what's happening right now. Any other final thoughts on these three or
- 2:08:15this match. Now, I'm good, oh right for damage for the sake
- 2:08:22of damage control. Though I do think they remain together. I don't see
- 2:08:24any reason to split them up, even with even with even without any goal,
- 2:08:31even with or even with EO no longer being ww Women's Champion, I
- 2:08:35don't see any reason to break them up. I think they still got plenty
- 2:08:39of life left in them. But moving on to the next match, which
- 2:08:45featured Gunter defending his Intercontinental Championship against Steven as Sammy Zain. Now, I
- 2:08:58don't care. I'm still manuckle, I'm still mad about it. Yeah,
- 2:09:07that was the next match, which started off with a really excellent production,
- 2:09:15something that we couldn't appreciate watching live, but watching on the replay, you
- 2:09:20could absolutely appreciate that phenomenal continuous shot of Sammy's ain in the back getting ready
- 2:09:26for the match, having speaking with his wife and kid, saying is you
- 2:09:33know goodbye to them before making his waist to the ring, and then encountering
- 2:09:37Chad and Chad be like all right, let's go, Like no, you
- 2:09:43you've got this. You're not coming with me, you don't need me.
- 2:09:48Cheesy as fuck this shiit screamed, goddamn eighties movie cheese. Yeah, specifically
- 2:09:56Rocky for all of the cheese. And then him just walking to the ring
- 2:10:03and kicking a box for no reason, like, yeah, that was what
- 2:10:07did that box do to you? Hiding ship for like why are you so
- 2:10:11mad? And then it come around the corner Kevin Owens waiting, which that
- 2:10:16was a good, dope moment. That was a dope moment of his buddy
- 2:10:20being right there at the last when he meets and give him a hug and
- 2:10:22hyping him up and saying let's go. Like that was cool. That was
- 2:10:26genuine. That wasn't the cheesy bullshit moment between him and Chad. But then
- 2:10:33the whole sequence was cool though, because it was still that one continuous shot,
- 2:10:37right and I've been loving them doing that. Yeah that that the shot
- 2:10:39itself was great, like you said, following him all the way out,
- 2:10:43Yeah, that was absolutely dope as hell. The match yourself, good match,
- 2:10:50very good match, brutal as hell good match, which saw Sammy's ay
- 2:10:56defeat go to it to the end his reign at six hundred and sixty six
- 2:11:01days. I hope somebody said there hill Mary's before that. So yeah,
- 2:11:07our new inter continental champion, Sammy's ain. So what do you think about
- 2:11:16it, Doyle? I mean, not much for me to criticize here.
- 2:11:22This was pretty close to perfect as you can get. I think, you
- 2:11:28know, Gun they being obsessed with taunting Sammy's wife worked really well. That
- 2:11:35fucking band brought a little bit about Brainbuster on the turnbuckle was fucking awesome.
- 2:11:41He pulled out of his out, He pulled that out of his El Generico
- 2:11:45days used to do that move. I don't recall him ever doing it in
- 2:11:50WWE, So that was cool little throwback if you've been a fan of his
- 2:11:54for a long time, and just something I looked fucking brutals fuck, I
- 2:12:01remember, I remember that move. It was kind of hard to see what
- 2:12:03exactly had gone on. It kind of looked like a botch actually to me
- 2:12:07in real time, But man was that it looked great on television. Really.
- 2:12:16The only thing I would deduct points from I think is it maybe it
- 2:12:22could have taken one more hell of a kick to put Gun through away.
- 2:12:26I kind of feel like the finish was just a little touch bit rushed after
- 2:12:31Sammy made his big comeback, but I mean, other than that, the
- 2:12:39only Yeah, the finish was a little rushed and Sammy couldn't get some pyro
- 2:12:45like what the fuck? But this was probably the best match of the weekend
- 2:12:48in my opinion. It was really good. Ship. I thought gun Through
- 2:12:54I expected gun Through to win, so I was surprised when Sammy did.
- 2:12:58I was prize that Sammy and Bailey and Cody all one. I didn't think
- 2:13:03all three of them would and I thought that Sammy would be the one that
- 2:13:05didn't. Uh so when he did, I kind of made me question what
- 2:13:09I thought of the rest of the rest of the card a little bit.
- 2:13:13But uh, yeah, this is my favorite match at the year so far.
- 2:13:18Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, I would argue this was probably
- 2:13:22the second biggest surprise of the whole pay per view, of the whole wrestler
- 2:13:28and seeing Sammy defeat Gunter like, yeah, none of us picked it to
- 2:13:33happen. We all thought that, oh, guns are about to whoop the
- 2:13:35ship out of Sammy. He's gonna beat him. I remember, like I
- 2:13:39had pitched the storyline that you know, Chad throws into towel like they do
- 2:13:43the whole you know, Drago Rocky fourth thing, you know, where he
- 2:13:48just whoops him and you know, make Chad Ga will be Rocky on the
- 2:13:52side watching Apollo in the ring get killed. I thought they were going to
- 2:13:56go that route, but no, right, I wanted that's just the wife
- 2:14:03now, and Chazz was like, huh what No, he decided that Gunterer,
- 2:14:09your reign is going on long enough and now as part of our new
- 2:14:13era, Samy's A and acottin Dal Champion Wayne, what were your thoughts,
- 2:14:20hey, man, I'm right there with you, guys. Uh, when
- 2:14:22we were doing over this, I definitely did not think sammy'se A he was
- 2:14:26gonna be living or leaving with the Intercottinent title. Uh, you know,
- 2:14:31because it was kind of a last minute replacement. You know, we were
- 2:14:35expecting brock Listener or maybe braun Breaker or Chad Gable, but instead we got
- 2:14:43Sammy's A and uh to everybody's fucking surprise. Like he ended the six hundred
- 2:14:50and sixty six day rain ah and last year he ended the longest tag team.
- 2:14:58Yeah. Yeah, so two really good wrestling he wins for Sammy back
- 2:15:03to back. Uh So I'm really happy for him. I enjoyed the hell
- 2:15:07out of this match. It's like fifteen minutes long, a little fifteen minutes
- 2:15:11and a half. Uh. We saw Gunther do a Hollova kick that was
- 2:15:16cool. Oh man, uh Doyle, I agree. It seemed like a
- 2:15:22rushed, kind of weak finish, you know, considering all the attempts to
- 2:15:31put Gunther away, the lengths that people have gone to to put him away,
- 2:15:35and what he has kicked out from. So I was kind of expecting
- 2:15:39Sammy made his comeback and it was over. Yeah. Yeah, that's what
- 2:15:43I mean. Like, moment he did he hold up, but yeah,
- 2:15:54that's what you want to call flopping around on the fucking ring. What is
- 2:16:00that? What is that? Like, Jesus Christ, Sammy? Uh yeah,
- 2:16:05dude. Like, I can't say that I wanted this match to go
- 2:16:11longer. I just wish it had a better ending to it. Uh.
- 2:16:16You know. Now I know for sure Gunter, especially after the draft.
- 2:16:22I think after the draft, we'll see Gunter start heading for a heavyweight title
- 2:16:28of some kind, whether it's the w W or the world title. I
- 2:16:31think his days of chasing the icy title are gone. I think he's moving
- 2:16:37on the bigger and better things. Uh yeah, eventually you have a time
- 2:16:43he he earned. If he wants to take like a month off, he
- 2:16:48has earned it. I think that'd be I'd be perfectly fine with that.
- 2:16:54A good place prediction, now, yeah, go for it, Summer Slam.
- 2:17:03Excuse me, Cody Rose versus Gunter. It's not a bad idea.
- 2:17:09They don't ever bring brock pack. I can't not a bad idea, but
- 2:17:15yeah, yeah, short short of Brock doesn't coming back because I mean,
- 2:17:18at this point, there really isn't anything for Gunster to do but pursue the
- 2:17:24world title. But they're not gonna do that. I don't see them doing
- 2:17:28that at any lesser pay, any pay per view, lesser than a Big
- 2:17:31Four review. So the next one up would be Summer Slam, and they
- 2:17:37just got a five times Berlin pay per view coming up. They could,
- 2:17:45yeah, they could go clash at the Castle, which is in Berlin,
- 2:17:48but I think that's Classics. Is something else that's in that's in Scotland.
- 2:17:54Actually, Uh, it's a couple of weeks after some Slam isn't SmackDown in
- 2:18:01France this weekend that isn't SmackDown is supposed to be in France this week or
- 2:18:09is that the week before the go home show for Backlash, which okay,
- 2:18:16yeah, right right, and they're actually gonna do it in Shoudy ahead of
- 2:18:20the King and Queen of the Ring whenever that is coming up in Yeah,
- 2:18:24for people who don't know the first time they're going to do SmackDown. Yeah,
- 2:18:28for people who don't know, because I know they won't show it on
- 2:18:31TV. But whenever anything was advertised for Saudi, the crowd boo the ship
- 2:18:39out of it. So if you're starting to believe that, oh yeah,
- 2:18:43w W crowd loves the fact that they go to Saudi. No, we
- 2:18:48do not. We fucking hate it. We get ship, we get fantasy
- 2:18:54matches, We have to watch the pay per view an odd fucking time.
- 2:19:01There are always meaningless feuds and matches that mean nothing afterwards. I hate anything
- 2:19:09that they have to do with for the Saudi, all that blood money.
- 2:19:13Well, yeah, that's that's the issue. It's not it's not so much
- 2:19:16the time change, it's the their leader is a murderer. That's kind of
- 2:19:22the problem. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, you're right, Yeah,
- 2:19:26Bash in Berlin is right after Summer's right, Yeah, like literally the same
- 2:19:33month is at the end of August where summer starts, and Queen of the
- 2:19:37Ring that June. Uh, King and Queen of the Ring. Huh oh.
- 2:19:43The website I'm on doesn't show it, but obviously they clearly announced it.
- 2:19:48Yea, it might be June, but kind of weird. Could clash
- 2:19:52into castles June fifteenth, and then the money in the bank is July.
- 2:19:58So whenn't May at the end of May, so it be backlash than King
- 2:20:03and Queen of the Ring, he says in June. Damn yo, I'm
- 2:20:13just looking at the next w W doesn't have another p l E in the
- 2:20:16States until Summer Slam, and they did that last year they were out.
- 2:20:22They had there was like four or five in a row last year, backlashes
- 2:20:26in France. Money in the scott Scotland, Yeah in Scotland, King of
- 2:20:33the Ring, Yeah, money in the bank is in Canada. King of
- 2:20:35the Ring is in Saudi Arabia, and then yes, in Cleveland, and
- 2:20:43then right back overseas for Bashton Berlin, and then I don't know if we
- 2:20:48know anything past that. I don't think we do. No, I don't
- 2:20:50see anything announced aff posts well, after Bash in Berlin. So the honestly,
- 2:20:56that kind of reinforces to me a little bit more than that we might
- 2:21:01get go to versus Cody a SummerSlam, I can see. I think Gunter
- 2:21:07will either win a title there or go into it already as champion, Right,
- 2:21:11That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking Cody might get dethroned at SummerSlam by
- 2:21:18Gunter and then Golterer goes into the Bash of Berlin. Maybe it's a rematch
- 2:21:24with Cody, or maybe he defends against someone else, or who knows.
- 2:21:30I could I could see it, I could see. I know some people
- 2:21:33don't want to see that. Like, you know, we've had this long
- 2:21:37ass run that you know that Roman just had for three years, and we
- 2:21:41had golt have this run for you know, a year and a half,
- 2:21:46almost two years. Are we about to have the guy? You know,
- 2:21:50Seth had had the world at weight championship for nearly a year. Ray has
- 2:21:54had it over a year. Yeah, Riyes, had the woman her title
- 2:21:58for her title. Rains is a year now in to make in the running.
- 2:22:03So yeah, are we about to have Cody just go for six months
- 2:22:09or not even six April August for a four month run seems kind of shocking,
- 2:22:15but I wouldn't rule it out. No, nor any other thoughts on
- 2:22:22the uh in the match or the future of Sammy's or a gunter. I'm
- 2:22:28ready for them. Where does Sammy zon go from? Here? Is in
- 2:22:31ic champ Like obviously now we know he's We know he's defending against Chad Gable
- 2:22:37next week on overaw in Canada, which seems like such a fucking setup for
- 2:22:43he'll turn Chad Gable. Like it's in Canada, sammy'se is gonna be over
- 2:22:50as fuck. They're already gonna boo. They're probably gonna boot Chad Gable just
- 2:22:54because he ain't Sammy z Ain. It seems prime a good pot to turn
- 2:23:00them for sure. Yeah, it seems almost telegraphed. Yeah, I agree,
- 2:23:07man. We'll see how they go though. But final match of the
- 2:23:13night main event World Heavyweight Champion Seth Freaking Rollins and Cody Rhodes taking on the
- 2:23:24Bloodline and the form of Roman Reigns and the Final Boss the Rock, with
- 2:23:33the stipulation that the winner of the match determines the outcome of the main event
- 2:23:39for Sunday. Bloodline rules or regular old one v one Gee, I wonder
- 2:23:46how that's gonna go check off though, huh, I said, it's like
- 2:23:54check off stipulation. You mentioned it, It's gonna happen right. The match
- 2:24:01itself, though, was a good match to me. This was the I
- 2:24:05like this match the best of the night, even with watching the replay.
- 2:24:09As much as I liked the much as good as this Sammy's Ain't Gulter match
- 2:24:13was, which it was good, it had the drama that the Jay and
- 2:24:15Jimmy match was missing. But overall still I think I liked this match more
- 2:24:20the most of the night. I mean, it had all the hype,
- 2:24:24it had all the energy behind it. We were here for even live.
- 2:24:28We were all hype as well for that, you know, seeing Rock finally
- 2:24:35get tagged into the match and seth just right like the moment the Rock stuck
- 2:24:39his hand out to be tagged in, everybody in the arena started getting the
- 2:24:43hype and cheering and shit and even the reactions period. Like the Rock,
- 2:24:50he had a pretty, i think, in my opinion, a little excessively
- 2:24:54drawn out entrance before we finally got the if you smell. But for all
- 2:25:01that, the moment you heard if just smell everybody cheer. People totally forgot
- 2:25:07he was a fucking heel and they cheered his ass off because it's the fucking
- 2:25:09Rock. Huh. And yeah, like we touched on before some moments that
- 2:25:16you picked up in the match yourself that weren't picked up on, and I
- 2:25:22mean they were picked up on the replay that we didn't pick up on watching
- 2:25:24it live. Was like the Rock telling the referee you know, if you
- 2:25:28count, you're fired. Yeah, Like that was a fucking that was a
- 2:25:31cold ass moment, Like and they didn't edit out as cussing either, Like
- 2:25:37even on the replay that he said, like, if you count, you're
- 2:25:41fired. You know, the Rock, I don't fuck around. You count,
- 2:25:43you're fired. I was like, oh shit, okay, referee,
- 2:25:48you just sit your ass in that little corner and wait to count the three
- 2:25:50day little buddy. And he also is apologizing at times too. Yeah,
- 2:25:56he's apologizing and Cody like, dude, you want me to do like you'm
- 2:26:03a boy, but I got bills to pay. I ain't getting fired for
- 2:26:05you. Yeah. I mean, like we kind of all saw this match
- 2:26:11going this way roughly, right, I mean, there was really no other
- 2:26:16proper outcome. I mean, I thought going into this it was very much
- 2:26:20feeling like Infinity War, like where the good guys have to lose the first
- 2:26:26half of the first movie, you know, and so they can win the
- 2:26:31big movie, the end Game, which we'll get tomorrow. I dude,
- 2:26:37I enjoyed the hell of this match. I love seeing the Rock in person.
- 2:26:41The entrance, his entrance was the shit a dude. I must have
- 2:26:46heard Cody Rhodes the music like thirty times since WrestleMania, Like, it's ridiculous
- 2:26:52everywhere I fucking go, I hear it. It's driving me nuts. Dude.
- 2:26:58We got like a good I feel like between the two nights we probably
- 2:27:01got good twenty minutes of just that fucking thing. Dude. Yeah, yes,
- 2:27:07yes, absolutely, but uh yeah, dude, I enjoyed this shit
- 2:27:15out of this match. It's good to see the Rock go still at his
- 2:27:18age and to go well. I mean, it's not a singles match,
- 2:27:24it's a tag match, but you know, I'm so glad for him to
- 2:27:28be a part of it. You know, there's many guys, No,
- 2:27:31there's definitely, I mean, think about it, guys, like there's not
- 2:27:35many people left from the Attitude era. Who can still get in the ring
- 2:27:39and take pumps. You know he does not, Yeah, exactly. There's
- 2:27:48not many guys from that time period who can take pumps like he did,
- 2:27:52you know, or you know, isn't a high caliber kind of match like
- 2:27:56that? Uh? I mean you like I I went home like satisfied,
- 2:28:03happy. You know, it was like seeing the rock and rumand Rains at
- 2:28:09that top of that ramp holding two titles, you know, even one was
- 2:28:15like from the Hall of Fame, but like still just that badass fucking image
- 2:28:18of them, you know, holding those titles but looking like a modern power
- 2:28:26a modern power trip. Yeah, dude, and Cody just sitting in that
- 2:28:30rain, just realizing that, like now he's gonna have everything to fight against
- 2:28:35to get that title. And you know, like even Cole said like there
- 2:28:39is no title this year. Like he's like he even like, oh,
- 2:28:43there's no way there's no title this year. His chances are gone. I'm
- 2:28:48like, dude, Cole, chill out, dude, like have some faith
- 2:28:50you fuck her? But no, I forty four minutes, forty almost forty
- 2:28:58five minutes, Holy shit, I don't. I think that's mostly all entrances,
- 2:29:03to be honest, you know who. That's because that's a long fucking
- 2:29:09match. Like, what was that the longest match of the of both nights
- 2:29:13longer? Yeah, the longest match of both nights. And yeah, you
- 2:29:16could probably attribute some of that to the to the entrances themselves, but I
- 2:29:22will say watching it live, it didn't feel that long. Watching it the
- 2:29:28replay, yeah felt that long. Well, it felt that long as it
- 2:29:31was that long. You guys are trying to include the replace the rather the
- 2:29:35entrances, it's that does not include the entrances between the recap. Between the
- 2:29:39recap video and the entrances, that was twenty five minutes, and then the
- 2:29:43match after that was forty five over an hour for the whole second so that
- 2:29:48one of the match, the whole match was forty five minutes. Wow,
- 2:29:52yeah, that's crazy. Like but from that from the minute the recap video
- 2:29:56started until the final bell was over for an hour, so like the Rock
- 2:30:03centerance thought was cool by the way, oh yeah, and uh uh credit
- 2:30:09which again he looked Yeah, he looked way better than I thought he was
- 2:30:13gonna But forty five minutes for this, I'm sorry, Like, as a
- 2:30:16general rule, if you can cut twenty minutes out of a match it's and
- 2:30:20it's still about a half an hour long, and you would have missed absolutely
- 2:30:24nothing. The match is too long, you know, Like the last ten
- 2:30:28minutes of this were fucking awesome, right when when Roman hit Rock with that
- 2:30:31spear, which I assume we're going to get a receipt for that someday,
- 2:30:37squirrel that away in the back here of mine. For however many months to
- 2:30:41up to a year after that. It was great, but like the first
- 2:30:46half hour was fucking useless, like nothing happened, and we talked about,
- 2:30:52you know, the Rock threatening the ref, how we had no idea about
- 2:30:56it while we were watching it in real life. Yeah, I remember us
- 2:31:01going like when when did this become no DQ? What the fuck is going
- 2:31:05on? You know, I kind of had an idea it might have played
- 2:31:11better live if they had had Samantha Irvin like announce the match is now no
- 2:31:16DQ or whatever, you know, Like I feel like Vince used to do
- 2:31:18that sometimes, like the guy we get counted out, No, no,
- 2:31:22no, it's it's not it's not no count Yeah, grab and changed it
- 2:31:26on the fly. Yeah, Like I thought that might have been, like,
- 2:31:30you know, hindsight's twenty twenty. I thought that might have been a
- 2:31:33cool thing. Cody and Sets could have kept winning. You know, they
- 2:31:35count out the rock and Rockers. No, no, no, it's no
- 2:31:37count out now. Okay, the matches restarted, it's no count No,
- 2:31:41it's no DQ now or what you know? Oh you can't pin in hum
- 2:31:43three it has to be five and whatever it is, just keep changing the
- 2:31:46rules. I thought that would have played better than this did. Not that
- 2:31:50it was bad, Like I said, the last ten to fifteen minutes was
- 2:31:54great, but it was just so much fucking bullshit before that. So yeah,
- 2:32:00I think I think he could have paired this down a good amount,
- 2:32:03get fifteen minutes out of it. It's still half an hour. It's still
- 2:32:07a long time, and especially with the fucking crowd being frozen and it already
- 2:32:11even a long night. You know, sometimes less is more. It seemed
- 2:32:16like they got that message for almost all the rest of the card, and
- 2:32:20then they just forgot it around ten o'clock at night, I guess or something.
- 2:32:26It was still good. It was to see the rock I cannot say
- 2:32:31it again. He looked so much better than I thought he was gonna.
- 2:32:33I thought part of the reason they were doing a tag match because they wanted
- 2:32:37him in the ring, but they didn't want him to do much and that
- 2:32:41turned out to be completely wrong. Hen say, you can tell he definitely
- 2:32:48was. He definitely puts some work in. I think, yeah. I
- 2:32:50mean after the stories about how he had a ring in LA and a ring
- 2:32:54in New York and he was flying NXT people in I guess Gallas. Is
- 2:33:01that a tag team? I think they were training with him, So yeah,
- 2:33:05he really you know, but you know, you have the luxury when
- 2:33:09you're not a full time guy, and Logan Paul I say the same thing
- 2:33:11about all of them. When you have the luxury to focus on one match
- 2:33:15for however many weeks and or months, it's a lot easier than when you
- 2:33:18have to do it every night, or in Seth Rollins's case, in Cody's
- 2:33:22case, twice in a row. Agreed, But I think it's also him
- 2:33:26being very self aware as well, Like I'm pretty sure he knew or it
- 2:33:33real least saw how he came across on TV and some of these other appearances
- 2:33:37where he was just doing the bare minimum physicality and then getting on the mic
- 2:33:43and sounding completely winded. I think he was aware, like I said to
- 2:33:46himself that okay, I damn sure got to get my conditioning up. And
- 2:33:52also just him being a veteran of the business, like he knows what it
- 2:33:54takes for this match, He knows what expectation is of him. He knows
- 2:34:01he can't just go out there and be the rock and phone it in.
- 2:34:03Oh yeah, all right, you guys do all the work and I'll just
- 2:34:07I'll just come in do some of MS signature stuff and and that'll be good
- 2:34:11enough. Like he he knows, he's he's it's the benefit of him coming
- 2:34:16from that old school trade and he's got more at stake now than he's ever
- 2:34:20had. Certainly he's on the board now, you know, I think he
- 2:34:24what do they say, his his his stock bonus was worth nine and a
- 2:34:30half million or something for performing and WrestleMania nine million, which is yeah,
- 2:34:35hell, heya, right, But when you're putting, uh, when you're
- 2:34:39putting fourteen or one hundred and forty thousand people and you know, seat every
- 2:34:46eighteen inches, you know, maybe you're worth that sure, sure, And
- 2:34:50I think and maybe I'm giving him a little too much credit, but I
- 2:34:54think his own pride was like, yeah, if I'm gonna do a match,
- 2:34:58I'm not about to go out there and half ass like I'm gonna make
- 2:35:01sure that I am at my best, especially when you're in the ring with
- 2:35:05you know, people the caliber, with Cody Rose and a seth Rollins,
- 2:35:09or even if you're looking at your brother and you watch, I mean at
- 2:35:11your brother, you're looking at your cousin Roman, and you watch this motherfucker
- 2:35:15slim down and ship and all of a sudden he got a six pack in
- 2:35:16pex nowhere. It's like, yeah, all that talk that people were having
- 2:35:22about Roman raised, like, oh, Roman raised looking small, Roman rays
- 2:35:24looking skinny? Is this leukemia back? Is this editor y'all can shut the
- 2:35:30whole fuck up because Roman came out there flexing speaking of McAfee just casually dropped
- 2:35:37that un commentary said something about Roman is currently going through leukemia treatment or something,
- 2:35:43and then they didn't say a word about it. I haven't heard anything
- 2:35:46about Like, was that not Was that something he wasn't supposed to say?
- 2:35:50He said lukemia treatment, Did he say he was still Did they say he
- 2:35:54was battling leukemia still? I think he said battling. I have it here,
- 2:35:58I have the audio clip. I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna pull
- 2:36:00it up here in a second. You guys keep talking. Yeah, because
- 2:36:03I picked up on it. I'm like, Okay, is he just saying
- 2:36:05that because it's in remission, So technically he's still battling it even if it's
- 2:36:11in remission or what. But yeah, let me wait a million bucks when
- 2:36:16he came out. Yeah, let me try playing it off my phone,
- 2:36:20see if I can get it here. James from grew in the position him
- 2:36:28congratulations on tonight. Pat McAfee on commentary tonight said you are currently suffering with
- 2:36:35leukemia, and I was wondering if you could clarify that. I know your
- 2:36:39health issues in the past, but can you build them What he was referring
- 2:36:43to there, Well, I'm still on oral chemotherapy. It's a medication that
- 2:36:46I'm going to have to remain on my entire life most likely. So yeah,
- 2:36:52that's just a part of my personal battle. It doesn't affect Thank god,
- 2:36:58it allowed I'm still able to perform. I think anybody in my position
- 2:37:03would say health is wealth, and as long as I can continue to perform,
- 2:37:11then you already know that that's at base. So we're good, and
- 2:37:13we're still in remission, but it is something that is still a part of
- 2:37:16my life. Yeah, that's that's hard to hear. And that was Joe
- 2:37:22not not I think, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
- 2:37:26Could they brought that up because I remember I saved that clip today when
- 2:37:30I saw that. But yeah, so, I mean good from the shedding
- 2:37:33light on that, and you know, part of him probably part of his
- 2:37:37new look, maybe you know, just taking better care of himself to help
- 2:37:41him just be stronger in that in that fight and that maybe he saw himself
- 2:37:48on TV. It was like, man, I'm looking a little soft out
- 2:37:50there, looking like I think, got a little lax with it. All
- 2:37:54right, get back right with y'all for you for wrestlemedia. I don't know,
- 2:37:58I just never thought that. I just thought he was says he came
- 2:38:01back. In general, he's been big, bigger, but uh, I
- 2:38:05didn't think he slimmed down him. Maybe I just don't know, just didn't
- 2:38:07pay attention to it. Yeah, go back and look at go back and
- 2:38:11watch him in the previous back and watch him from the Rumble this year.
- 2:38:16Okay, okay, yeah, watch or watch him at uh, what's the
- 2:38:22last one he worked before that, So why did he work so have a
- 2:38:26series? I think so, No, I don't remember. I don't Yeah,
- 2:38:35yeah, no, I don't. Yeah. But either way, just
- 2:38:39if you go back and look at some of the last few matches he worked
- 2:38:41and stuff and look at him then and then compare those time he looked at
- 2:38:45wrestle media. Oh no, brother was putting there work. He was,
- 2:38:50he's I ain't saying he bulked up, but he damned show slimmed down and
- 2:38:54probably maybe he added a little bit more muscle, but damn show slimmed up
- 2:38:58because yeah, abs and pecs, shoulder, Yeah, he hit the gym
- 2:39:09freaking hard at the very least this year. Like I said, that's why
- 2:39:16people were like looking at him on TV and the build up to Rustlemania,
- 2:39:18and people were thought he was like looking smaller, like he had lost weight,
- 2:39:22which you know, obviously we can't see what's going on underneaf because he's
- 2:39:26out there in the hoodie. But motherfucker showed him at their results this weekend.
- 2:39:28Ship. I was inspired. I'm like, okay, stop bullshitting me
- 2:39:33in the gym, get my ship together. Any other final thoughts on the
- 2:39:43main event match, No, I'm pretty good. I think my uh my
- 2:39:48voice has met its limit, and uh yeah, I think I'm pretty good
- 2:39:52dude. So yeah, I guess that covers the gist of everything on match
- 2:39:58on match, all night night Again, compared the night to this was very
- 2:40:03much a muted seemed very muted compared to night too like, not as much
- 2:40:09pyro this night. The matches were so so too good with a couple of
- 2:40:15really good ones, and the crowd was just so much was it was so
- 2:40:20much cold at night one. Yeah, and weather definitely affected the crowd.
- 2:40:26Complained that the crowd sounded dead like yeah, like the crowd was dead like
- 2:40:30to us in the stadium, we thought we sounded great. We were definitely
- 2:40:35fucking cold. It was its ship. One thing I will say about the
- 2:40:41card as a whole, or the event as a whole, it was a
- 2:40:46lot more serious than WrestleMania's usually are. There wasn't a whole lot of other
- 2:40:50bullshit, you know. There was no wacky backstage segment or even wacky in
- 2:40:56ring segment. There wasn't Pete was getting you know, choke slam by Caine.
- 2:41:03But it wasn't any of that nonsense. That almost the WrestleMania almost always
- 2:41:07had getting stuck in the mouse trap. Yeah, exactly, and in fact
- 2:41:13kind of a hallmark of WrestleMania, and maybe that speaks to the new era
- 2:41:18and part of it. I don't know, but yeah, I mean Night
- 2:41:28two was that was definitely more fun than Night one. Yeah, between better
- 2:41:31weather, much more surprises. I think the overall card on Night two was
- 2:41:37better than Night one. Like Night two really kind of only had maybe one
- 2:41:45match that would consider to be a somewhat of a dud. Other than that,
- 2:41:50I think damn every match on Knight two was like good to great other
- 2:41:56than one match, which again we'll say that for next Yeah, anytime I
- 2:42:05want to bring us home Wayne, Yeah, uh, tre you got anything
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- 2:42:28I'm gonna speak it into exists. I'm gonna say it now on the show,
- 2:42:31just to hold myself accountable. We will have a PCW Instagram account coming
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- 2:42:48Mm hmmm, yeah, a lot of stuff period post uh Doyle, you
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- 2:43:50page that Doyle runs. Yeah. So next episode we will cover WrestleMania Night
- 2:44:00two. Hopefully my voice is better. We're gonna give you guys a good
- 2:44:03week to rest and we'll do it next week. Take all weekend, listen
- 2:44:07to this episode, drag it out. We got a lot more content coming
- 2:44:13your way, and I guarantee it, and I promise you we will be
- 2:44:16having more guests on interviews coming up soon. I just wanted to get basically
- 2:44:24WrestleMania season out of the way before I started another agenda of things, and
- 2:44:28I didn't want to promise things and dates the people, knowing that we had
- 2:44:33Wrestlemanated coming up. I was asked to be on Scenic cast and I was
- 2:44:37just like, it's gonna have to wait till after WrestleMania. I'm just I'm
- 2:44:43busy. It's busy with shit. If you have any pictures when you were
- 2:44:48at WrestleMania you want to send to me to put into the I'm going to
- 2:44:52do a YouTube video for us to put up on the YouTube channel. Just
- 2:44:56a bunch of pictures and videos from the from both or if you are a
- 2:45:01raw and you have some, don't text them to me or don't like try
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- 2:45:26can, don't allow because Doyle sent a couple extra allowed to fifteen ten to
- 2:45:31fifteen so be And the simple reason is because I don't want to be overwhelmed
- 2:45:39over the limit. And yeah, oh my god. Yeah, and Andre
- 2:45:43has like four hundred and I'm just like, pabe, like fifteen three pictures.
- 2:45:50Yeah, I was like, cause I got to take all these I
- 2:45:52want to try to put this in a video. So I'm like, don't
- 2:45:54stress me out with like one hundred photos. So but I'll get to it.
- 2:45:58It'll it'll be if it drops a few days after the next episode it
- 2:46:03does, but either way it will be there, it will be up.
- 2:46:05So uh with that said, uh, let me let me me try woman
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