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Day 2 of the 53rd ALEC Annual Meeting in Orlando, FL · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: Americay you Hewett from Orlando, Florida, where the American Legislative
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  Speaker 1: has changed councilor of handing their annual meetings. The day
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  Speaker 1: two of my broadcasts, which I'm kicking off with State
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  Speaker 1: Senator Phil King from the Great State of Texas, which has,
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  Speaker 1: for reasons that defy my understanding, thirty one senators in
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  Speaker 1: their upper chamber said, King, you got to start with
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  Speaker 1: the explanation of thirty one senators because that doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense to the folks in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Capital lore says that we have one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty members of the House, and that's because there's
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty psalms, and we have thirty one
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  Speaker 2: senators because there's thirty one proverbs. We have actually researched
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  Speaker 2: that to see if it's true. We can't find anything
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  Speaker 2: to it, but it's a wonderful story. So it has
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  Speaker 2: been stuck with for decades.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's why I have a column in Fox this
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  Speaker 1: morning about Trump and Napoleon, maximum and the maximum. If
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  Speaker 1: you start to take Vianna, take Vienna. It's never been
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  Speaker 1: foundry Napoleon saying that, but it works, so as you
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  Speaker 1: use it. I want to talk about a lot with you,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to start with data center. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to you have Business and Commerces one of your committees.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to religious liberty. Would you tell
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  Speaker 1: us about the data center coming to your district and
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  Speaker 1: why people might want to think twice before they say no,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want a data center.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, there's Look, there's legitimate concerns. We've never done this
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  Speaker 2: kind of build out. Electricity is an issue. Water is
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  Speaker 2: a concern. Not in my backyard, it's a big concern.
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  Speaker 2: Those are all things we're working through and can work through.
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  Speaker 2: On the great side, you always want your state to
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  Speaker 2: be in front of whatever the next big thing is,
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  Speaker 2: and this is at least the combustion engine. It's probably
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  Speaker 2: the industrial revolution, and so you want your state to
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  Speaker 2: be in front of that and in.
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  Speaker 3: Front of everybody on it.
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  Speaker 2: There's a tax benefit to that nobody talks about. But
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  Speaker 2: I represent one little county, small county, thirty eight hundred
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  Speaker 2: people shackle for Texas Great County. There's a data center
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  Speaker 2: under construction now along with the power facility that'll provide
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  Speaker 2: the electricity. That one data center and that one power center. Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, I say, all the property taxes collected
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  Speaker 2: to fund schools, the city of the county, the Emergency
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  Speaker 2: Service District, everything in that county totals nine point nine
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  Speaker 2: million dollars a year in collections. That one data center
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  Speaker 2: and that one power facility is going to write that
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  Speaker 2: county a check for two hundred and fifty million dollars
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  Speaker 2: every year without putting any strain on government services. It's
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  Speaker 2: not going to put kids in their schools. It's not
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  Speaker 2: going to put trucks on their roads. It's not going
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  Speaker 2: to put crime in their neighborhoods. It's just going to
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  Speaker 2: be money to the community to use for water resources
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  Speaker 2: and whatever else they can think of.
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  Speaker 1: That was approved by a board of supervisors unfamiliar with
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  Speaker 1: how land use approvals in Shackleford County happens.
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  Speaker 2: So in Texas are our counties don't have zoning authority.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So if a property owner wants to sell that
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  Speaker 2: property to Amazon to build a delivery center, or they
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  Speaker 2: want to sell it for a power plant, they can
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  Speaker 2: do that. We don't we even have a deregulated electricity market.
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  Speaker 2: But in this case, they're bringing their own electric power.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: They're building this giant series of tilt wall buildings that
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  Speaker 2: look like all other tilt wall buildings.
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  Speaker 3: And they've got a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of traffic out there now with a couple of thousand
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  Speaker 2: construction workers for a couple of years building this. But
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  Speaker 2: when that's over, Uh, it's just going to be some
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  Speaker 2: standalone buildings that don't make noise.
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  Speaker 3: Again with they they've.
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  Speaker 2: Worked through the electricity issue there.
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  Speaker 3: The water issue is solved for that community.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And but there is really no approval. Now we've we've
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  Speaker 2: since then, I think we're the first state to do so,
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  Speaker 2: have set up a process for making sure that it's
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  Speaker 2: not the wild wild West when data centers interconnect, because
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  Speaker 2: one data center will use as much electricity as a
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  Speaker 2: town of one hundred thousand people easily, And so we've
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  Speaker 2: got some parameters for how you work on interconnection so
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  Speaker 2: that things don't fall apart, but there is no approval
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  Speaker 2: process for a data center to come into that.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like the alpha case for best case. Unless
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  Speaker 1: there's a blue duck and a lonesome dove involved in this,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to work out just fining. People ought to
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  Speaker 1: use it as an example. I want to turn down
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  Speaker 1: to the Religious Liberty committee that you've set up. Lieutenant
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  Speaker 1: Governor Dan Patrick chairs the National Religious Liberty Commission, and
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  Speaker 1: he does a very fine job of it. Why did
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  Speaker 1: Texas do that? What's its end supposed to be?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 2: As you said, Governor Patrick chaired the Presidential Commission on
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  Speaker 2: Religious Liberty. They just submitted their report to the President
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  Speaker 2: and to the public. And if you watched those hearings
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  Speaker 2: over the last year, at least, I was shocked at
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  Speaker 2: all the instance instances of discrimination, religious discrimination, and even
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  Speaker 2: persecution in the workplace and education, in the military, of course,
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  Speaker 2: in government facilities, government offices. And I think he just
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  Speaker 2: wants to bring that to Texas and we are going
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  Speaker 2: to we're standing up that committee right now and we're.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at the presidential report. We're going to look.
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  Speaker 2: For gaps in the Texas law, and we are going
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  Speaker 2: to fill those gaps and try to make Texas number
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  Speaker 2: one in the nation for religious liberty for decades to come.
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  Speaker 5: One of the most.
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  Speaker 1: Famous religious liberty cases I thinach con law is the
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  Speaker 1: city of Bernie. Down in Bernie, they wouldn't let Saint
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  Speaker 1: Mary's Catholic Church expand that ended up being a big
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  Speaker 1: case that was decided on grounds unrelated to the free
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  Speaker 1: exercise clause. But I think I don't normally think of
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  Speaker 1: Texas as having a lot of religious liberty problems. Have
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  Speaker 1: you held hearings yet? Have you asked people to come
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  Speaker 1: in yet?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's we're about to start the hearings
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  Speaker 2: and just actually next month. But you know, a simple
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  Speaker 2: example is one of our physicians in Texas, and he
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  Speaker 2: testified before the hearing the Presidential Commission, and he was
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  Speaker 2: a whistleblower. He was concerned that they were doing the
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  Speaker 2: gender modification on children at one of the Texas hospitals
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  Speaker 2: that had said they had stopped doing that. He released
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  Speaker 2: information showing that they were. The Biden administration then indicted him.
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  Speaker 2: I believe on three inredical accounts right. He was persecuted
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  Speaker 2: by his peer groups, and it was a terrible experience,
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  Speaker 2: and those are the kind of things that are popping
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  Speaker 2: up in every state.
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  Speaker 3: We're just like anywhere else where.
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  Speaker 2: A child trying to give their valedictorian speech as it
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  Speaker 2: changed from what they wanted to talk They want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Christ, they want to talk about God, and
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  Speaker 2: let's have a school district strike that. So the same
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  Speaker 2: things you see going on everywhere in our culture, now
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing them in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: To big, big state. A lot of mount of peace
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  Speaker 1: will be on the end of the belcher. Let me
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  Speaker 1: turn the redistricting. You chaired the redistricting committee. That was
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  Speaker 1: a national story. Congratulations, you got it done. How does
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  Speaker 1: it look in the rearview mirror?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know it was in the first time I
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  Speaker 2: found out we were doing redistricting was when the President
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  Speaker 2: was being interviewed on the tarmac somewhere and said, and
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  Speaker 2: Texas is going to do congressional redistricting, draw five seats.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be an easy deal.
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  Speaker 2: So we put together a committee and Lieutenant Governor appointed
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  Speaker 2: I chaired it, and we had some struggles. The Democrats
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  Speaker 2: in the House left the state for a number well
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  Speaker 2: and eventually came back, and we had some issues in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate too, but we created five additional Republican seats
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  Speaker 2: Congressional seats.
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  Speaker 3: We have thirty eight seats. We should have thirty nine.
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  Speaker 2: But they changed the census went and during Biden's tenure.
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  Speaker 2: They're not walk away Republican seats. I feel real comfortable
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  Speaker 2: that will win at least three three of them. All
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  Speaker 2: five are winnable. But you know, politics are a little
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  Speaker 2: odd this cycle and difficult, particularly down in South Texas,
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  Speaker 2: and so they're good seats, they should be Republican seats,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not walk away seats.
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  Speaker 5: Will there be?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think fairly confident and net pick up for
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  Speaker 1: Texas for the Republicans at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: even if a couple of those districts go the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: So we all know what politics look like right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little n easy. I think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: get a lot better as we get toward November. But
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  Speaker 2: I feel I think, I feel real comfortable we'll pick
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  Speaker 2: up three of those. I think if it was a
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  Speaker 2: normal election cycle, we'd.
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  Speaker 3: Pick up all five.
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  Speaker 1: And so do they stay the same until thirty two?
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  Speaker 2: So yes, until after the next census, well until we
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  Speaker 2: redistrict again. You know, and we're required to after the
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  Speaker 2: next census. But so, yes, they would go through in
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  Speaker 2: twenty thirty, the census will come out, we will draw
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  Speaker 2: districts again then and I'm sorry, in thirty one we'll
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  Speaker 2: draw the districts. The centils come out in thirty one,
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  Speaker 2: we'll draw the districts that year, and then the thirty
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  Speaker 2: two election would elect the congressional members for thirty three
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  Speaker 2: thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: Now, last question. You've had great leadership in Texas from
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  Speaker 1: Rick Perry and Greg Abbott forever. Eventually, Greg Abbot's going
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  Speaker 1: to say I'm done doing this job. Who's next in?
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  Speaker 1: And Lieutenant Governor Patrick just seemed to like to be
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  Speaker 1: lieutenant governor? How long are these superstars going to hang around?
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  Speaker 3: You know, we talked about the same thing. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The great thing is Texas has a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in other offices and in business that could step in
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  Speaker 2: there and do a great job. We've got a broad
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  Speaker 2: bench and so but you're right, I think the lieutenant governor,
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  Speaker 2: although he'd make a magnificent governor, I think he's pretty
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  Speaker 2: happy where he is and says this is his last
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  Speaker 2: term that he's running for.
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  Speaker 3: Now, But we'll see who knows it won't.
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  Speaker 5: Be me their job.
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  Speaker 3: I like where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: I like, by the way I think having those committees,
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  Speaker 1: and on top of that Homeland security, which you have
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  Speaker 1: time to talk about. You got a plate full. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining me. You're also on the ALEC Executive Committee. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: wonderful organization does fabulous work. Keep up the good work,
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  Speaker 1: especially on AI and data centers, because don't want my
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  Speaker 1: beloved state of allowed to go off in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 1: I want them to hear that tax increment of a
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  Speaker 1: quarter billion dollars a year for the right data center
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  Speaker 1: in the right place at Texas State Senator Phil King.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be right back America and go to Florida in
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  Speaker 1: extra state tuned. I'm go Hewett from the American Legislative
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  Speaker 1: Exchange Council ALEC.
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  Speaker 5: Dot org slash HUE.
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  Speaker 1: ALEC dot org slash HUE.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back in America on my annual trip to Florida
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  Speaker 1: and Orlando. Is American Legislative Exchange Councils gathering national conference,
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  Speaker 1: and their national chairwoman this year is Demi Mussada. She
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  Speaker 1: is a representative of the Great State of Florida, which
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  Speaker 1: is featured in the Wall Street Journal today Fox News.
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  Speaker 1: I mean for being the seventeenth largest economy in the world. See,
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  Speaker 1: people are cooking, and you're the chair of ALEC, and
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  Speaker 1: you've beaten the records that Danny Perez all set. And
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  Speaker 1: Danny is a thorn in my side for sixty years,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm very, very glad to hear you just crushed
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  Speaker 1: his record. What are the records that Alex said this year?
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: No, I'm so happy that you're here, so happy that
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  Speaker 7: we're back in the Free State of Florida. And we
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  Speaker 7: were here three years ago when Danny Perez, our current
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  Speaker 7: Speaker of the Florida House, was national chair of ALEC.
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  Speaker 7: And yes, I have beat all of his records. When
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  Speaker 7: I got the chairmanship and started off in January and
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  Speaker 7: took the reins, my first question to Lisa Nelson, the
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  Speaker 7: CEO of ALEC, was.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, what did Danny do?
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  Speaker 7: And I want to beat all of his records? And
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  Speaker 7: you know she turned me to go. I don't think
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  Speaker 7: he sees it as a competition between you two. I
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  Speaker 7: think it's you two working together for Florida to be
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  Speaker 7: at top.
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  Speaker 6: And I said no, no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 7: That's a direct competition and we are going to crush
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  Speaker 7: them all.
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  Speaker 6: So every record from.
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  Speaker 7: Attendance to fundraising, to new private sector members, new legislators,
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  Speaker 7: and the amount.
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  Speaker 6: Of legislators we have here from Florida.
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  Speaker 7: So we have sixty four legislators from the Florida legislature here.
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  Speaker 1: That's remarkable. I will talk to California please. That's my
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  Speaker 1: home away from home. I no longer live there. I
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  Speaker 1: live in the Beltway now, but I miss it and
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  Speaker 1: they need to follow Florida's example, especially that story seventeenth
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  Speaker 1: largest GDP in the world. Florida is on fire. I
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  Speaker 1: don't mean like California's on fire. I mean a good
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  Speaker 1: way to be on fire. So congratulations on that. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit about the governor's race Byron Donalds.
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  Speaker 1: I was with the future First Lady of Florida yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: as were you at the ALEC.
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  Speaker 5: She should be governor.
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  Speaker 6: I thought she could do it.
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  Speaker 5: So absolutely, what's the race look like to you?
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  Speaker 7: I think that Byron is the clear winner and the
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  Speaker 7: clear leader that we need here in Florida to continue
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  Speaker 7: momentum but also to continue to help us grow into
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  Speaker 7: this next phase that we're going into. Like you said,
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  Speaker 7: seventeenth largest economy in the world. That's impressive just for
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  Speaker 7: a state. And he's what Florida needs. There's no secret.
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  Speaker 7: I endorsed him early, and I'm a big supporter. And yes,
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  Speaker 7: Erica is is, you know, his biggest asset.
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  Speaker 6: And she could do it yourself too.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm on right now in Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, that
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  Speaker 1: panhandle Sarah Sota all over the floor except Miami. We can't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a Miami outlet for reasons unbeknown to me.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to your hometown of Coconut.
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  Speaker 3: Grove, So come on down.
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  Speaker 1: There's got to be a radio station Coconut Grove if
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  Speaker 1: you're listening Coconut Grove. Where is his strongest suit in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the governor's race and where does he have
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  Speaker 1: to work the hardest to beat?
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  Speaker 7: Jolly Now, I think he's strong no matter where you
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  Speaker 7: go in Florida.
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  Speaker 6: The support is strong everywhere.
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  Speaker 7: He's been down on the ground in Miami, knocking doors,
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  Speaker 7: going to the vent Anita and having cuffe seat though,
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  Speaker 7: and he's making the rounds and he's been in every
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  Speaker 7: corner and the support is out there.
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  Speaker 6: I think that he has it all right, So tell
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  Speaker 6: me your story.
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  Speaker 1: I always get these times. We obviously, if you become
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  Speaker 1: the chair of alex you end up being exiled to
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  Speaker 1: Brazil after a few years. That's where Danny proa. But
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  Speaker 1: tell me your backstory.
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  Speaker 7: So my backstory is I ran in November twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 7: And you know Danny Perez actually, you know, I owe
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  Speaker 7: him a lot for helping me get there. He came
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  Speaker 7: to me said, I thought you would be great for
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  Speaker 7: this seat. I told him, no, no, no, I've seen this
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  Speaker 7: song and dance before the Republicans had lost the seat
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  Speaker 7: the three prior elections.
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  Speaker 6: And He's like, no, we can do it. You know,
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  Speaker 6: this is the time. And I didn't think i'd.
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  Speaker 7: Run for office when I did, and Danny told me,
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  Speaker 7: you know, there's no perfect time. The time is when
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  Speaker 7: the opportunity is there. So took a leap of faith,
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  Speaker 7: went for it. Knocked on eleven thousand, five hundred and
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  Speaker 7: one doors, just myself, as a team, we did thirty five.
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  Speaker 6: Thousand, and we won. It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: What was your background before you decided to become an
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  Speaker 1: elected official? Were you already on a local board or
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  Speaker 1: a mayor or something.
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  Speaker 7: No, So I was a legislative aid for a few years,
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  Speaker 7: but my real job is that I'm a director, one
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  Speaker 7: of the directors at a center for adulthood developmental disabilities.
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  Speaker 8: So that's an.
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  Speaker 7: Issue that I'm personally passionate about. I've been able to
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  Speaker 7: run legislation to help that population. So you know, when
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  Speaker 7: you're thinking of any developmental disability, autism, cerebral palsy, down syndrome,
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  Speaker 7: well what have you.
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  Speaker 1: Done for them? Because I have many, many friends with
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  Speaker 1: children who are now adults in their thirties and they're
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  Speaker 1: all working, but they have to find the right employer.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you intendarize.
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  Speaker 6: That that's right?
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  Speaker 7: So the center that I work at, we're adult day Training,
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  Speaker 7: So we do have an employment program. We go out
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  Speaker 7: in the community, we find employers, we help get them
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  Speaker 7: more used to you know what it would be like
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  Speaker 7: to have an employee with a developmental disability. We don't
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  Speaker 7: hide from that word. Okay, I think that's number one.
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  Speaker 7: But you treat them like you treat any other employee,
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  Speaker 7: and we give them that opportunity. They want jobs, they
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  Speaker 7: want that independence, they want to earn a paycheck. And
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  Speaker 7: they're excited to get that paycheck. So we set everyone
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  Speaker 7: up for success. We match the skill set with what
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  Speaker 7: the job is. We have a culinary academy, so they
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  Speaker 7: learn culinary schools or culinary skills. A lot of them
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  Speaker 7: want to work in the food industry, so we've given
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: them that opportunity too. Transportation was a major major problem
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: for us. So just like you expect your own employee
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: to be on time at work, you would expect one
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: of our individuals to be on time at work. And
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: the transportation service that was being provided was way below subpar.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: So I've run some legislation to provide better transportation.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: About group housing, which is a problem for everyone, especially
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: as parents get older and become unable to oversee or
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: superintend the primary care of their adult with disability.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, so our center, you never graduate from it. Get
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: you can start there from when you age out of
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: the school system, the K through twelve system at twenty
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: two here in Florida, and you're there till end of life.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: We are a family and no matter what stage of
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: life you're in, we're there for you. We do community
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: based education, take them out into the community every single
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: week too.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: We're not overnight.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: So there actually is a place in Miami that just
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: opened this past year that is housing. There's one in
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: Tallahassee I've seen, but we need more of it. It's
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: definitely a deficit.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: What a fabulous passion in the legislature. Now, what's your
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: passion for? Like, what do you want them to focus on?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Because I'm talking data centers with everyone yesterday and started
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: off with Arry King today on that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, data centers is a big deal right now, no
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: matter where you are.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: It's a hot topic for sure.
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: We obviously had that morning session on data centers, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: I think we need to have more information out there
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: and so people can really understand. But you know, my
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: goal for ALEC is to continue the momentum. You know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: it wasn't that long ago where we didn't have quite
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: the attendance we had now and we didn't have this momentum.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: So keep it going, Attract new members, new legislators, make
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: sure we have legislators from all fifty states.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: We do have a legislator from California right he's.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Coming into that, David Tang Tang Geepa. Yeah, I am
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: so excited because that's like an endangered species of legislators
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a Republican in California. But you know, don't you amaze
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: your seventeenth largest GDP in the world, California probably seventh
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: or eighth, But it's falling like a rock and you're
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: shooting off a rocket. You think they would understand that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: what you're doing is working and what they're doing isn't.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: Do you ever, you would think I thought Spencer Pratt was.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: Gonna help with some of those issues, but we know
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: how that one turned out. So you would think by
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: now that they're seeing that, hey, they're going to potentially
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: use some congressional seats. We're gaining some some of these
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: other states that aren't doing the antics that they're doing,
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: they're gaining people and California unfortunately is losing people, but
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: fortunately for us.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one minute left, Demi Bissetta, do you have redistricting?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Are you on that committee? Because you folks did a
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: wonderful job this time around, but it will happen again
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: after the thirty census.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: So I was not on the redistricting committee, and I
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: will be termed out of the House by them when
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: it comes back.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: We'll see what role I'm in, you know at that point.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: But I voted for the most recent maps when it
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: made it to the floor, but wasn't part of the process.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope you get a new CEDB down and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: coconut Grove with you of Lincoln's Parish. Thank you, Representative Bisseeta.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on Alec and break all of Danny's records instead
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: them so Hi no one else gets them. Thank you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: so much for Johnny. I'll be right back in America's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Day Tune from Orlando. I'm at the American Legislative Exchange
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Council forum on quarter Back America from the American Legislative
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Exchange Council. Every year we talk about big issues, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: sometimes there's a state specific issue, and Missouri State Senator
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Ben Brown is with me. Senator Brown is here to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: talk about You're an election on the fourth. That's pretty quick.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: What are you debating in the zoo.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: So we have a number of very important ballot measures
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: that the voters will be setting on August fourth. We
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: have an opportunity to reform our iniciptition system, and also
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: we have the opportunity to pass what's known as m
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: M five, which would really set the groundwork for us
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: to permanently eliminate our state income tax.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: So how is that pulling? Because that doesn't sound great
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the voter sometimes. But then you look at Tennessee, Lorda
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and Texas and it's an engine of economic growth.
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that the data doesn't lie.
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: I mean I've taken on this issue for a couple
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: of years, and I looked at growth metrics. I looked
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: at the U HAUL Growth Index. They put out an
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: annual report, and I just started plugging an income tax
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: rates and what really stood out to me is that three.
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: Out of the top five fastest.
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: Growing states, the ones having the most success, have an
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: income tax rate of zero percent. You expand that out
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: a little. In four of the top seven, as opposed
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: to those at the bottom.
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: You have your California.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, wonder people are Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: And then you know, I took that and I even
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: narrowed it down further. I plugged in a spreadsheet just
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: Missouri and the eight states that directly border US, because
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: after all, those are the ones that we are in
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: the most direct competition with. And what I found was
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: that Missouri ranked only number six in terms of lowest
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: income tax rate. We also ranked number six in terms
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: of population growth or loss. Every state outperformed us at
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: a lower income tax rate. Every single state that's slagging
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: behind has a higher income tax rate. So the growth
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: point is something that you really want to get across.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: As far as what this would do, it really does
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: two things. There's a mandate that the legislature must pass
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: a statute that would continue these gradual revenue driven triggers
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: to reduce our income tax and eventually eliminate it. Right now,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: what we have in the law is that it will
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: go down to four point five percent and then that stops.
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: This would mandate that we continue that down to zero.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: It also does have an optional provision. It gives the
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: legislature the option because if you're using only revenue triggers,
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: we're looking at a very long process, let's be honest.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: It gives us the option if we want to expand
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: the sales tax base in order to expedite that process.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: So how did this get How did the Measure five
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: get on the ballot? Did it come out of the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: legislature or was it by petition?
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: So yeah, this was passing the legislature.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And with a lot of support or a little support.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Did take arm twisting or was it Oh, yeah, we
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: got to do this, just keep.
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: Up, you know.
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: And the Missouri Legislature we have a very robust filibuster
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: and so for a big issue like this, I actually
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: I think we got got it through a little easier
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: than even I anticipated.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So how long does your philibuster run for? Oh?
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: You know, this session wasn't as bad.
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: And I remember in twenty twenty five, I think it
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: was we had two record breaking filibusters each went on
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: for about three days. So you don't get a lot
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: of sleep during during those times.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Who is opposed to making you competitive with say Tennessee
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and Arkansas. Arkansas is low, but it's not flat. Tennessee
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is zero. Who doesn't want that?
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: Well, you know the Democrats for one, some of the
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: usual characters. There is some pushback from some on the
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: right as well. You know, anytime you're advancing any kind
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: of reform that is just this complex, this complicated. You know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: people at home, they don't spend years studying this, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: so there you know, do hear about some people have
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: hesitation because of the possibility of expanding that sales tax space.
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: As of right now, generally only products are tax There
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: is a constitutional amendment past twenty fifteen that prohibited sales
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: tax applying to services. My perspective, I was a business
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: owner prior to serving in the Senate. I owned restaurants,
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: and you know, particularly in a restaurant, sales tax theres
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: a business owner.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: You have to eat that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: And I always wondered, you know, why do people like.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: Myself, as a brick and mortar business that sell products
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: have to deal with sales tax. Yet another person owns
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: a business down the road that produces service, they don't
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: have to deal with sales tax.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I HVAC or someone that's going to go in
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: your home or mow your lawn or something.
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: They don't exactly yeah, hair salon, anything like that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: That doesn't seem very there. So did you sell your
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: businesses when you went in the legislature?
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: Not immediately about a year and I sold one. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: tried to give myself the false impression that I'd be
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: able to do both for a period of time. Didn't
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: really work out. I tried another one as a silent partner.
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: It just it wasn't for me. It's something I couldn't
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: really get comfortable with. I have to be more hands on.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm very curious I was just asking the ALEC
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: chair or what she did before, Why were you in
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the restaurant business. I got a good buddy, Glen, who's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: been in the restaurant business for every now but labor,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: helping out with reforming restaurant rules because they're all messed
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: up for labor. What got you in the restaurant business?
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: So when I was in college, I went through this
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: big entrepreneurial phase and I had I've collected all these
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: old black spiral notebooks and at one point I had
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: a couple of them filled up with just partially completed
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: business plans for everything I could dream up, and just
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: happened to have opportunity where a restaurant was available. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: went and met with the broker, signed the NDA and
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: just to look over numbers to help with my business plan.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: But I recognized exactly what was broken in the business.
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: Their costs were all out of line. Some things need
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: to be changed. And I thought, you know, I'm twenty
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: eight years old at the time, so quite a bit younger.
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: I thought, you know, I could go and I could
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: do this, and then just you know, once I get
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: an idea in my head, I'm one of those people
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: I just I don't stop. I just keep grinding forward
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: until I get c center.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Of all the businesses in the world, I think that's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the toughest niche.
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: Yes, so I will point out that prior to that,
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: I did professional mixed martial arts. So going forward, Okay,
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to fight with you about it anything. Well,
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: so I mean to my point that and then restaurant business,
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: then politics. I guess I'm just a glutton for punishment.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But when you sit that, which niche were you in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in restaurant medium like Chili's or were you lower end
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: or highering?
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: So it was I had kind of one to a
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: place with a kind of a casual, sporty type vibe
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: with upscale food and drink from scratch kitchen cocktails made
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: of fresh squeeze juice. And so that was my vision,
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: sort of a Midwestern take on a gastropub, and I
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: did that. I did that for about eight years until
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: up until COVID. And that's actually how I got involved
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: in politics.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Say oh, they shut you down.
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm in Saint Louis County where my restaurant was located.
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: And I went for my guy that never gave a
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: public speech, in his life to at one point, you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: overnight I became the face of the resistance and was
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: doing five interviews a day between local news and radio,
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: next thing I know, and traveling to Capitol testifying it
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: hearings for legislation to restore oversight and accountability. I did
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: that for about a year. I filed a loss against
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: the state. Actually I won. It took about a year,
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: but you know, I ended up reversing most of the
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: mandate state wide.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: That's remarked. That's a great origin story and fab term
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: moments they do. How many more have you got in
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the Senate?
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: So I just finished my fourth year last year, my
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: first term up for reelection after another four years.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Right now, Sarah Brown, I hope can see you at
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the next Alet convention and a freshly minted winner and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: with your Measure five pass. Thank you for joining me,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Sara ben Brown from a take tu in America right
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: on the Hugh Hewett.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Show from Orlando.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: In Orlando, hence the backdrop, which is the American Legislative
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Exchange Council. There are ninety nine state legislatures. Eighteen hundred
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: members of those legislatures are here in Orlando talking policy,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: talking goals that they can share plans and procedures and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: represented Kim Moser from the Great State of Kentucky, where
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: she's been a state legislator for ten years, representing welcome.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: What was your background before you threw yourself into politics.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: Oh, gosh, I was a nurse.
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: I was a nicky nurse, neonial intensive care and a
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: flight nurse. And I served as drug policy director. And
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: I guess my biggest accomplishment is I have raised five sons.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm a third of three boys. And what I'm
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: getting beat up right now somewhere. Well, my mom was
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a nurse and she was a wonderful nurse. She's gone
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to a reward, but she was like a nurse crotchet
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: ratchet from that went over the cuckoo's net. She said,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: they're two kinds, nice and toughing that you get out
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of bed, get out of here. Yes, so I'm glad
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to have a nice That's funny. Let's talk medicaid fraud,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: because Ohio is a Washington, that's Minnesota, the Washington. California
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't even want to look. It's so bad in California.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: How bad is it in Kentucky? Or is it not that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: Oh, you know, I think that we definitely have a
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: fraud and we've got a great auditor who's uncovering some
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: of the frauds, some of the some of the you know, discrepancies.
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: Let's say in Medicaid and funding. Some of the MCOs
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: have managed care organization. They manage the Medicaid for the state,
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: and so you know, I won't get to in the weeds,
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: but we have feed for service and then MCOs m
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: c os get a capitated rate at HMO. Yeah, well
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: that's a help maintenance organization. Yeah, you know, I think
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: that's not just Medicaid. Okay, so yeah, Medicaid only, Medicaid only.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so they move.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Into a poor community and say open their doors. Is
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that with the not really?
• 29:00
  Speaker 11: I mean yeah, the MCOs are basically an insurance okay. Yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: and sure they come in and they manage the Medicaid dollars.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: So not all bad.
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: I mean, you know, the objective is to to you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: disperse the funds in an equitable way, to you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: create a fare system for the recipients, make sure that
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: the people are eligible and all the things.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Well, Obamacare came along twenty years ago and it said,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: come one, come all, join the medicaid system. I assume
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Kentucky said yes.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: The first Governor basher Is who kind of brought this
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: to Kentucky through executive order.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: It was not a legislative initiative.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So really you can do that in Kentucky.
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: Apparently I wasn't there yet.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, So incomes medicaid to all those dates and follows
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the fraud. Now, I know it's very bad, especially in
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: adult daycare centers in Ohio and in Minnesota childcare center.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: What's the point of most controversy and contemty.
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: You know the area that we identified and I passed
• 30:09
  Speaker 11: a bill actually that defunded the CPT or billing code
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: that we identified as being fraudulently used, really really abused.
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: It was in the addiction services area. We have a
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: huge addiction issue, substance use issue, and sure exactly.
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: I relate to and so.
• 30:32
  Speaker 11: You know, we we have worked hard to bring resources
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: to Kentucky to the people who need it. But now
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: I'm concerned about some of these billing codes that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: Have been used for not just this particular code was
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: called psycho education.
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: It's kind of this fluffy code that really should have
• 30:52
  Speaker 11: just been in therapeutic and it ended up costing the
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: state three hundred million dollars in five years.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: And so we were watching the trends and it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: Was kind of plodding along at a reasonable rate, maybe
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: seven eight million a year, and in twenty twenty four
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: it shot up to one hundred and sixty eight million dollars.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: So how does that work? I mean, they what do
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: they pretend to be doing? Counfling people with?
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, the psycho education code
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: is really you know, hello, mister Smith, this is your diagnosis,
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: this is what we're going to do for you, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: it's it's teaching soft skills and life skills and all
• 31:34
  Speaker 11: the things I think should be included in other therapeutic models.
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: I don't think you need a separate billing code for that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: And so we ended up taking a look at this
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: and with our behavioral health department, decided that this code
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: really wasn't needed, and so I had a bill that
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: updated peer support Specialist in Services, which is also in
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: the addiction arena.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: But we defunded that that billing code.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Who was abusing it? I mean, is it a provider
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: or is it a fraud product?
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: It was it was providers and they were using it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: They were having peer support specialists, for one, people who
• 32:19
  Speaker 11: are not necessarily clinical.
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: Using this code.
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: So it was it was being used by providers who
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: shouldn't have been using it, shouldn't have been billing for it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: In the first place.
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: And then they would build for eight hours at a time, and.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: This is built in fifteen minute increments.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So I was a lawyer to build time. There are
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: no eight hours, there are no eight hour days. Yeah, litigators,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I would blink at that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: I've heard that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're a nurse, so that is that why
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: your I fell on that and said.
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: Right, So I chair Health Services for the state, so
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: I have the opportunity to look at a lot of
• 32:56
  Speaker 11: things in the healthcare space, and Medicaid just happens to
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: be one of the issues that that falls under my
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: jurisdiction in our in our committee.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So if you spend three hundred million dollars on Medicaid,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that has to Kentucky one.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: Code one code.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, h does that have to come out of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a balanced budget?
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: It does absolutely So wherever.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Draining that that pool gets the water and the rest
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of this what got cut?
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, well, I mean we you know, we
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: we push and pull our budget every every two years
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: we pass a biennial budget. Sour, But I are our
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: medicaid budget in the time that I've been in office,
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: since twenty seventeen, has has gone from about a ten
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: billion dollar medicaid budget to twenty four billion dollars.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Is your population double?
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: It has not, it has not. So yeah, so there's
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: a lot. There's a lot going on in Medicaid. The
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: governor that we serve under is or work with, I guess,
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: is very interested in expanding this population.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: I think.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: So he's running for president.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I've but is he going to run for president on waste,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: fraud and abuse because that doesn't seem open.
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: Oh no, no, yeah, no, he's saving the day.
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: He is.
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: He is just including everyone and making sure that everyone
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: gets you know. I mean this is how he won
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: the last election. He went down to town handing out arpitecs. So,
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: you know, So as far as things that are getting cut,
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: I'm absolutely sure that there are things that we should
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: be funding that we aren't able to fully fund because
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: of the explosion in the fraud.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I had for a number of year seventeen years served
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: on board that had some oversight over community clinic family
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: run healthcare clinics and it's federal state match and some
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: local money. That's where people you find a clinic, people
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: actually come and there's a doctor there and a nurse there,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: NAPA and pt guys, medicaid. Somehow get around that they
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: don't they don't have to have credential people on site.
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: No, they do, they do.
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: And yeah, I just had this conversation with one of
• 35:10
  Speaker 11: our staffers earlier about credentially are we are we taking
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: a hard enough look at the providers who are coming
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: into our state and making sure that they're following all
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: the rules. And you know, there are a lot of rules.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: But that's okay.
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: It's a lot of taxpayer dollars that we have to
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: be responsible for.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And with also had a family member who was a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: coder for a hospital retired.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Now it got too crazy.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Too many coaches too, Oh yeah, why so many coaches?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Why is it not write out what you're doing?
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well that's the way it used to be. My
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: father was a family practitioner and you know, I went
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: on house calls with him.
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: So those are you're gone?
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: Very simple times. Yeah, So I've seen the evolution of
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: healthcare from from that you know, small town primary care
• 36:03
  Speaker 11: office to you know mandatory EHRs, the.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: Electronic health records where the doctor.
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: Has his back to the patient and is typing away
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: on the computer.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: And it's uh, yeah, it's difficult. But my husband's a physician, so.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: You do house calls?
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: He well, you know what, he's got a big family.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So okay, what I think we have the friends and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: family exception because my daughter had a house call when
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: she's forty now when she's a baby, and I said,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you've got one in your entire life, and that's not
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: going to happening in family and friends exception. What is
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: ALEC doing about this? Because the American Legislative changed council
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and this is spreading through the states. Every state's kind
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of waking up to, oh you have a nightmare A right, right?
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: Well, I mean I think ALEC is demanding transparency and
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: data collection, and so a lot of the states that
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: in Kentucky specifically, is following suit. We have a Medicaid
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: Oversight and Advisory Board and setting up I'm co chairing
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: a data Healthcare data Transparency Dashboard, and so we're trying
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: to shed the light on the money that's being spent.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: So I think that good providers would want you to succeed.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: They do, they do, and there are really.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Good provider of course, and they said don't want.
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we want to protect the safety net for those
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: who truly need it.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And represent a major Thank you, good luck in getting
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the American Legislative Exchange Council to get a policy together.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate your time for it.
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: Son't going to America.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back from Orlando ALEX dot org slash
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about the organization, I'll
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: be right back.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Welcome back in America.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: And who keew it from the ALLX conference in Orlando,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a l EC dot org slashue the American Legislative Exchange Council,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing but these ninety nine state legislative chambers
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: don't get into. One of them is Veterans Affairs, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the chair of that committee is with us. The Speaker
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: pro Tem of the Iowa Legislature, John Wills, John, Welcome.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yesterday I met Matt Commons, new member of your caucus.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: He's working on the Veterans affair. We're walking along with
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Lea beebe and I said, so you got out of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Afghanistan and that she said, Now he pulled up his
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: pant leg. He hadn't got a leg, but you don't
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: know it, and he said, I'm here to work on veteransition.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: What are you guys doing.
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: Well, we're going to adopt to look at adopting about
• 38:14
  Speaker 12: six model policies tomorrow tomorrow morning, and they're going to
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: be from anywhere from purple schools. So an effort to
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: allow for schools to be able to take students in
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: more easily that are military students, to mental health, to
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: physical health and anything in between is going to be
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: really a good day tomorrow.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: You know, my daughter, the navy spouse has been for
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a long time. So there's got four kids and deployment's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: going on right now. They have in Virginia though the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: best system in the world. They got a person in
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: every school ready to deal with the military kids. Is
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: that part of the plan.
• 38:52
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's part of the thing with the school thing
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: that we're going to be looking at tomorrow is to
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: make sure that those children when they actually get to
• 38:59
  Speaker 12: the school, that they have the ability to be taken
• 39:02
  Speaker 12: care of, that they are kind of tracked into the
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: right programs where they need to be based on their
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: past school and the previous schools. But basically is a
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: streamlined as possible for those kids. Is a traumatic event
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: when their parents have to move about every three to
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: five years in the military, and so they will be
• 39:20
  Speaker 12: moving at some point, and so those kids, we want
• 39:22
  Speaker 12: to make that as streamlined and as stress free as possible.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So were you a service member twenty five years in army? Army? Okay,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: so Zoe is Matt and so I guess it's army heavy.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But we had a number of people stand up yes day.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I said, veterans wild you stand up? How big is
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the task force? They all want to be on that, right,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the veterans want to be on the Veterans Task Force.
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so relatively new task force, so less than a
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: year old. We already have one hundred members. Plus we
• 39:47
  Speaker 12: are pulling into public members. So ALEC is very interesting
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: because we have private members, which are legislators, and then
• 39:53
  Speaker 12: we have public members, which are businesses and so forth.
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: And so we have over one hundred legislators, private members,
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: and we've got about ten public members right now. Businesses,
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: groups that support veterans and so forth, and so together
• 40:09
  Speaker 12: it's very synergistic. It makes a very good working relationship
• 40:12
  Speaker 12: that we're able to do model policies and promote things
• 40:16
  Speaker 12: that veterans need, both on the legislative side and on
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: the public side.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: So you had to bounce around a lot in the army.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So why did you end up in Iowa?
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: I grew up in Iowa, and so I stayed there
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: a good portion about So I spent twenty five years
• 40:29
  Speaker 12: in the military, nine of it active duty, the rest
• 40:32
  Speaker 12: of those National Guards. So I started out National Guard
• 40:34
  Speaker 12: at seventeen years old, ended up in the National Guard
• 40:37
  Speaker 12: when I retired, and so basically I was there. My
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: career was in Iowa for a majority of times. So
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: I'm a water quality specialist. I work with landowners on
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: an individual basis, on voluntary basis to improve water quality.
• 40:51
  Speaker 12: So I was able to use my skills for that,
• 40:52
  Speaker 12: but also my skills in the military as an eleven
• 40:55
  Speaker 12: Bravo and a nineteen Delta or infantryman cavalry scout. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 12: spent about three years total combat tour Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt,
• 41:04
  Speaker 12: and that sort of thing. So I be able to
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: serve my country but also do good things back up
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: my community.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I told another vet yesterday, I would just love to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: see more veterans in politics. I think you guys get
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: there and you actually know how to work cooperatively towards
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a common goal in the matter, whether DRR that. What
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: do you experienced?
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: I never wanted to run for politics. A lady, she
• 41:23
  Speaker 12: was eighty nine years old at the time, came up
• 41:25
  Speaker 12: to me. She said, you're going to run for so
• 41:26
  Speaker 12: and so's seed and you're going to win. And I'm like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: I'm not going to do it. That night, five other
• 41:31
  Speaker 12: people came to me and said, hey, congratulations, here you're
• 41:33
  Speaker 12: running from that seed shit some pole and I said.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: No, I'm not.
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: But guess what here I am.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Have you enjoyed it?
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: It has been the best thing ever.
• 41:41
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: I don't like the politics. I like the people, and
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: I like serving the people, and I like working for
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: the people and making the folks back in Iowa's lives better.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I like ALEC as well. How do you like? I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: think ALEC is just the most obvious thing in the world.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Get the smart people together and let them talk.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: So I did participate in some other groups. There's other
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: groups like ALEC but I really never felt at home.
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: But once I came to an ALEC event where we're
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: you know, working for federalism, less government regulations and you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 12: just those kind of concepts, I really felt at home.
• 42:15
  Speaker 12: And this is kind of where I really feel like
• 42:17
  Speaker 12: I can make the biggest, biggest impact and effort.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I'm talking with represented Commons about the property tax abatement
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: for disabled bets. I don't know if it's fifty percent
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: or only five or nine percent. Is that a common
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: policy throughout the country.
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I think we're seeing it more and
• 42:32
  Speaker 12: more often right now. I think in Iowa we have
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: something if you have a physical disability that veteran or
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: military cause, you get a certain percentage off of your
• 42:42
  Speaker 12: property taxes or as frozen at a certain percent. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: think other states, other look at calities, are looking at
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: doing some things like that. I think that's really a
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: good thing to look at. And each individual state has
• 42:54
  Speaker 12: the ability to do what.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: They have invest Your spousely had to find a new
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: time a job every time you move, and sometimes they've
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: could and they don't transfer. That is the craziest thing
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: One of the one of the policies we need to
• 43:05
  Speaker 12: look at, and we have already. Last December looked at
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: reciprocity for military spouses in their licensing and so one
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: of the things we looked at is if they do
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: transfer but a state requires a higher level, that they
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: automatically do get licensed, but they have a certain period
• 43:21
  Speaker 12: of time to catch up to that state's requirements. I
• 43:23
  Speaker 12: think that's very reasonable. Yes, you know, allows them to
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: get into the workforce right away, earn a living, but
• 43:29
  Speaker 12: yet still meet the requirements at that state.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Once all right, one hundred and eighty degrees. The data
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: centers Iowa got any Oh, yeah, we've got your water specialist.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: That's what made me think of it, because water and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: power are the two big issues, it says Shave with
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: data things.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Yes, we do have data centers.
• 43:44
  Speaker 14: We've got quite a few.
• 43:45
  Speaker 12: And I tell you I did a newsletter article about
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: data centers a few weeks ago and talking about more
• 43:52
  Speaker 12: of the national security issue. It's really a national security
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: issue in my mind, if we don't have data centers
• 43:57
  Speaker 12: in this country. I'm kind of neutral agnostic to data centers.
• 44:01
  Speaker 12: Do you know, if we want data centers in location,
• 44:04
  Speaker 12: we should have if people want them. But if you
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: want to pick up your phone and go to Facebook.
• 44:09
  Speaker 12: Guess what, you're using a data center. If you don't
• 44:11
  Speaker 12: want to have that, then we don't want data centers.
• 44:14
  Speaker 12: As far as the water usage, they have the technology
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: now that they can do closed loop systems. They're not
• 44:21
  Speaker 12: using nearly the water that.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: The original data centers did.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I really do believe what Trump.
• 44:25
  Speaker 12: President Trump is touting that if we have data centers,
• 44:29
  Speaker 12: they must provide their own power and infrastructure. I think
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: that's a great way to go about it. So I
• 44:34
  Speaker 12: think those are the things we need to look at.
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: I think that's what really states really need to look at.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: As far as policy, let's talk a little politics. I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: was on the national map for governor's race and for
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Senate race. Now Congresswoman Innson has been on the program
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: talking about her race. I think that feels pretty good.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Don't know much about your.
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: Governess, right, yeah, I really think you know, Zach Lane
• 44:54
  Speaker 12: came up in the race out of five candidates, came
• 44:58
  Speaker 12: from out of nowhere a few weeks before the primary,
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: and defeated four other folks in the primary. I think
• 45:07
  Speaker 12: he ran a good race. He hit things just right.
• 45:10
  Speaker 12: This is going to be a tight race. No mistake
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: about it. The Democrat candidate has been running for two years,
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: is well funded by the family. His own family has
• 45:21
  Speaker 12: funded twelve million of the dollars that he has raised.
• 45:25
  Speaker 12: So it's going to be it's gonna be a dogfight.
• 45:27
  Speaker 12: I think in the end, Zach Lane is going to
• 45:30
  Speaker 12: come out on top because he's got the good ideas.
• 45:33
  Speaker 12: He's got the idea. We got a two hundred thousand
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: dollars two hundred thousand voter registration advantage for Republicans get
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: him out. It's a good amount. And so I think
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: it's going to be a race, and we've got to
• 45:45
  Speaker 12: all be all in on it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Ashley Inton Johnny Earn's a tough act to follow. Ashley
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Hanson seems like she can do that.
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: I serve with Ashley Hantson in the House for about
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: four years and she's a great person. She's really got
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: a heart for a servant heart, and I think she's
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: going to do well in the Senate.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Represent John Wills. Thank you for joining me representing the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: state of Iye. I want good to have you. I'm
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: good to have the Veterans Committee up and run. I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: appreciate that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: Thank you, Thank you, appreciate it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: I'll be right back America. Stay tuned.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams, the chief economist and president of ALEC Trent
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: me next on the neu Uit Show, Welcome Back America.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt from ALEC dot or a national convention,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: my annual trip somewhere. We're in Orlando, and Jonathan Williams
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: is with me. You see him once a week on
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the hu Uit Show. Jonathan is the president and chief
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: economist at ALEC Alec dot org SLSU, but he normally
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: has frame him up a little bit there, Harleywood you
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: because this is the first time I'm not being offended
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: by a shot. There's no little Michigan cut out behind you, Jonathan,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: so I'm happy to have you here without the state
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: of Michigan behind you. So I want to start with
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the One Big Beautiful Bill and Tabor, how are we
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: doing well?
• 46:49
  Speaker 15: You know, I think that there's a lot of work
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: to be done on a couple of areas, right. I mean,
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: I think that obviously the policy was a one hundred
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: percent right when it comes to the One Big Beautiful
• 46:57
  Speaker 15: Bill putting more hard earned dollars back into the hands
• 47:00
  Speaker 15: of American taxpayers. The education benefits that we've talked about
• 47:04
  Speaker 15: with the federal education tax credit, scholarship, the five two
• 47:08
  Speaker 15: nine expansions, all the issues that doctor Oz talked about
• 47:11
  Speaker 15: today here at ALEC and waste, fraud and abuse and
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: fighting those incredible benefits. You know, some of it gets
• 47:17
  Speaker 15: lost in all the just the whirlwind of the media cycles,
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: as you know better than anybody, right, And so I
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: think it's a reminder of what are these benefits and
• 47:24
  Speaker 15: how do they benefit the average American? And I think
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: it's so important, and sometimes it gets lost in the
• 47:28
  Speaker 15: shuffle on the Tabor question. The jury's out and there's
• 47:32
  Speaker 15: a lot of hard work to be done to educate
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: in Colorado. As to you, this has been in the
• 47:37
  Speaker 15: state constitution for now more than thirty years and has
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: really kept Colorado from becoming more like the former home
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: state of California by limiting the growth of government spending.
• 47:46
  Speaker 15: And guess what, when government doesn't overspend, taxpayers get a
• 47:50
  Speaker 15: rebate check more or less a dividend.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: And it's an incredible thing.
• 47:53
  Speaker 15: And that's why the big spenders out there hate it
• 47:55
  Speaker 15: so much and they're always trying to repeal it and spend.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Time Tabor with it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: John Andrews, Well, he was.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Very involved with that. He was a key ALET guy.
• 48:03
  Speaker 15: You know, Barry Paulson, who you probably know, was a
• 48:05
  Speaker 15: key architect and it was really kind of an ALEC
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: crew that got together there in the early nineteen nineties.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Too great idea.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Why didn't it spread out?
• 48:12
  Speaker 15: We're trying, you know, it's an ALEC model and we're
• 48:14
  Speaker 15: talking about it everywhere.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: But you know why. The short answer to that, he.
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: Is, the big spenders hate it, and they will come
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: out of the woodwork at a moment's notice if it
• 48:22
  Speaker 15: gets added to a budget or even as an amendment
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: to something else. It's an existential threat for those that
• 48:27
  Speaker 15: just make their money off of government largest.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Giving money away. Yeah, I always wanted something at ALEC.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I learned yesterday that the number of states that have
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: opted into the Tech Crew sponsored seventy dollars tax credit
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: education credit to not for profits. It's been went up
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to thirty. I thought I was at twenty seven. Have
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you got any more that you were hopeful about? Oh?
• 48:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think there's going to be a few more.
• 48:47
  Speaker 15: I mean you saw that even the rhetoric anyways from
• 48:49
  Speaker 15: Kathy Hokeel in New York who said she's going to
• 48:51
  Speaker 15: opt in. There's been a lot of rumors.
• 48:53
  Speaker 14: Around Shapiro and Pennsylvania and.
• 48:55
  Speaker 15: Others, And of course he's talked a good game at
• 48:57
  Speaker 15: least on school choice in the past, who hasn't really
• 48:59
  Speaker 15: delivered yet. That if some of a domino felt like
• 49:02
  Speaker 15: a Kathy Hockel saying I'm wanting to expand it, it
• 49:05
  Speaker 15: helps New Yorker, it helps everybody, and then it course
• 49:08
  Speaker 15: puts a ton of pressure on these other governors to say, hey,
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: we haven't done it yet. Even the liberal Democrat governor
• 49:13
  Speaker 15: New York is doing it. That puts them in a
• 49:15
  Speaker 15: really should be looking at that.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Now, let me touch you about data centers, because I've
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: probably had fifteen alex guests already from all over the country.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It's an issue everywhere. But the best guy who sat
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: down take Texas State Centator Phil King sat here and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: said his county's district out of county, with three thousand people,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: they're building the data center. They have a budget of
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: ten million bucks. They're going to get a quarter billion
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: dollars a year from this. He said, we love this,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: but we're glad and in Texas Center a zoning. So
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: you've got land, you go put it up. What is
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: alex because they're pros and cons of hot potato issue,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: of course.
• 49:47
  Speaker 15: I mean, I think you start, like most of our
• 49:49
  Speaker 15: members do, with the first piece of this, which is
• 49:51
  Speaker 15: we cannot afford to lose.
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: The AI race, right.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: You know, at the end of the.
• 49:55
  Speaker 15: Day, if you can't afford to lose the I race
• 49:57
  Speaker 15: to communists China or other adversarial nations around the world,
• 50:01
  Speaker 15: you've got to build out data centers to win on
• 50:03
  Speaker 15: the way AI race.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: And so how do you do it responsibly?
• 50:05
  Speaker 15: And how do you address the legitimate concerns and separate
• 50:08
  Speaker 15: those things from the illegitimate concerns that are probably being
• 50:10
  Speaker 15: funded in some cases by communists China know they're bad actors,
• 50:14
  Speaker 15: as I think we know. And so this week we're
• 50:17
  Speaker 15: talking about some of the best practices around data center
• 50:19
  Speaker 15: accountability to allow the build out do it in a
• 50:22
  Speaker 15: way that addresses people's concerns about electricity rates, for instance,
• 50:26
  Speaker 15: to make sure that rate pairs aren't going to pay more.
• 50:29
  Speaker 15: It turns out that talking to people like Chris Wright,
• 50:31
  Speaker 15: who I know you have talking about data centers can
• 50:34
  Speaker 15: actually lower electricity prices and put more power back onto
• 50:37
  Speaker 15: the grid what I've done correctly, So that's a key
• 50:39
  Speaker 15: element that we're talking about. And then also water and
• 50:43
  Speaker 15: farmland and things like that. The new technology I think
• 50:46
  Speaker 15: is going to be a game changer here in the
• 50:47
  Speaker 15: closed loop systems where.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: These data plans for.
• 50:52
  Speaker 15: Well, I mean, it's essentially a recycling of the water, right,
• 50:54
  Speaker 15: so they're not pumping in new water all the time
• 50:56
  Speaker 15: and having a huge waste of it. You're actually recycling
• 50:59
  Speaker 15: the water. And so the water usage I've I've been
• 51:02
  Speaker 15: told is can be lower than an office building in
• 51:04
  Speaker 15: a lot of cases.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Who are you talking to for expertise? We've got a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: minute Jonathan on that. Who's the go to doctor? Oz
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: is the go to guy? On Medicaid waste from abuse?
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: How about on data center?
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Well and data centers.
• 51:14
  Speaker 15: I mean, we've had some great conversations with Chris Wright
• 51:17
  Speaker 15: in administration, with Doug Bergham and the administration, but then
• 51:21
  Speaker 15: also private sector leaders are here. Steve Moore, my co
• 51:24
  Speaker 15: author of the State's Poor States Letter, discussion today with
• 51:27
  Speaker 15: Senator Paul Bettencourt from Texas Steve del Bianco from the
• 51:31
  Speaker 15: technology sector to say, hey, what are these best practices,
• 51:34
  Speaker 15: and that's what we're here to discuss.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: At least you've got some good laps out of Center Bankcourt,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: of course, absolutely the best trap impersonations. Yes, Jovin Williams,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: good to see you, President. Good to see the economists
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: of ALEC or ALEC dot Org. I'll be right back
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: from Orlando, America. Stay tuned to the g view at show.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. I'm Duett. We've uncovered in endangered
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: species at the American Legislative Exchange Council. A Republican from California. Yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: David TANGEEP represents. You have seventy in the surrounding era
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and the California Legislature. There are sixty members of the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: California Legislature, twenty Republicans. What can you get done, David.
• 52:10
  Speaker 16: Well, I think the biggest thing that we're working on
• 52:12
  Speaker 16: getting done is actually truly making it the Sunshine State,
• 52:16
  Speaker 16: or we're exposing what's happening in California. You know, when
• 52:19
  Speaker 16: I look at fraud and corruption, when the governor's former
• 52:23
  Speaker 16: chief of staff gets convicted of corruption, when the former
• 52:27
  Speaker 16: Attorney General Xavier Besserras, who's the potential next governor of
• 52:30
  Speaker 16: the state of California. His chief of staff also convicted
• 52:33
  Speaker 16: of corruption, and with what the Attorney general is doing
• 52:36
  Speaker 16: right now is something that I think everybody around the
• 52:39
  Speaker 16: country needs to see of what it looks like not
• 52:42
  Speaker 16: to do something.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: I want to talk about what a g.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Banta did yesterday, but I first want to just say
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: about how you every share gives empty suits a bad name,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and I cannot believe people would vote for him over
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Steve Hilton, who's running a great, very online campaign, but
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he also has got the grassroots. Are you an optimist
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: at all?
• 52:59
  Speaker 16: I am an optimiss a little bit, mainly because Bessarah's
• 53:02
  Speaker 16: chief of staff again was convicted of corruption. They both
• 53:06
  Speaker 16: took pleat deals from instead of going to twenty years
• 53:09
  Speaker 16: in prison to two years. So that tells me that
• 53:11
  Speaker 16: there's a big whale somewhere that they took a deal for.
• 53:14
  Speaker 16: So I think we're still waiting on that ball to drop.
• 53:17
  Speaker 16: And how involved some of these electeds, whether it was
• 53:19
  Speaker 16: Governor Newsom or Xavier B. Bessera himself, happens on that end.
• 53:23
  Speaker 16: So let's talk about ag BoNT to playing games. Playing
• 53:27
  Speaker 16: games with initiatives tell the whole audience out there, what's
• 53:31
  Speaker 16: going on?
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what happened yesterday in California. We have
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: the Voter Idea Initiative.
• 53:35
  Speaker 16: We've collected one point six million signatures, and the title
• 53:39
  Speaker 16: and summary of how it's supposed to appear on the
• 53:41
  Speaker 16: ballot used to say the Voter Idea Initiative and Citizenship
• 53:45
  Speaker 16: Verification Constitutional Amendment. It now says prohibits citizens from voting
• 53:51
  Speaker 16: unless a government issue ID is shown. But in the
• 53:54
  Speaker 16: summary as well, which it states that we ban mail
• 53:57
  Speaker 16: in ballots, we actually don't do that at all, requires
• 54:00
  Speaker 16: a code and verification. But essentially what he's done is
• 54:03
  Speaker 16: in the middle of an election season, he is changing
• 54:07
  Speaker 16: title and summary because he knows framing matters.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Of course it does.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: It's matter for I've lived there off and on nineteen
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: seventy eight. It's all about the title exactly.
• 54:15
  Speaker 16: And so instead of saying Voter Idea Initiative, it is
• 54:18
  Speaker 16: now prohibit citizens from voting initiative.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: What is the prop number?
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Prop thirty nine?
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So we want yes on thirty two.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: We want to yes yes.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: That's easier to get a yes.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: On a no. Yes on thirty nine? And how's the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: money coming in? Because that's an expensive proposition to run
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: a proposition in California.
• 54:34
  Speaker 16: We got to give a big credit to simile member
• 54:37
  Speaker 16: Carl Demayo for I mean, there's nobody who sleeps on
• 54:41
  Speaker 16: his team because he works so much, and so Carl's
• 54:43
  Speaker 16: doing a really good job. I think it's one of
• 54:46
  Speaker 16: the largest funding mechanism we have, but there's never going
• 54:48
  Speaker 16: to be enough money when it comes to trying to
• 54:50
  Speaker 16: beat Rob Bonta. I now referred to him as rigging
• 54:53
  Speaker 16: Rob Bonta, and we've got to make it too big
• 54:56
  Speaker 16: to rig, and so we need all the support we
• 54:58
  Speaker 16: can get to actually bring citizenship, theref and voter idea
• 55:01
  Speaker 16: to Califia.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you're talking right now to every major market in
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: California because it's let me just do my math two
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: forty five in California right now, start going in your car. Yes,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine, Yes on thirty nine, Yes on thirty nine.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: What would that let's assume it passed. What do you
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: think would be the impact of it.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I think it would be monumental.
• 55:18
  Speaker 16: And it's monumental because we've seen in the data with
• 55:21
  Speaker 16: the motor voter and the automatic registration that's happened since
• 55:26
  Speaker 16: about twenty sixteen twenty seventeen. There are statistical anomalies. Let's
• 55:30
  Speaker 16: look at LA County alone. We just got a report
• 55:33
  Speaker 16: from the Secretary of State that shows that there are
• 55:35
  Speaker 16: one hundred and forty seven percent registered voters in the county.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Well, what does that mean?
• 55:41
  Speaker 16: There are more registered voters in the County of La
• 55:44
  Speaker 16: than there are eligible age adults to vote. The same
• 55:46
  Speaker 16: thing in San Diego County and the same thing in
• 55:49
  Speaker 16: most of the counties in California. So this will require
• 55:53
  Speaker 16: our local clerks and registrars to actually clean the voter rolls,
• 55:57
  Speaker 16: to get rid of the bloated voter rolls, and to
• 55:59
  Speaker 16: guarantee that each individual can cast one vote. And we're
• 56:03
  Speaker 16: guaranteeing that there's a normal election security process in our system.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Don't even ordinary Democrats hate the waste, fraud, and abuse
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the unemployment numbers. Everyone thinks they got the worst prod
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: scandal in the country. I said, no, you don't. I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: was in California when the unemployment number they just absolutely rampage.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: For the prisoners, we're getting like three checks a month.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Do the Democrats get upset ever about anything?
• 56:26
  Speaker 16: So I will say there's a difference between the elected
• 56:29
  Speaker 16: Democrats and the general population. Whenever I talk to the
• 56:33
  Speaker 16: general population, a lot of them are just regurgitating whatever
• 56:36
  Speaker 16: talking point that they're saying. But when I ask them
• 56:39
  Speaker 16: about fraud, waste, and abuse, they agree with us. But
• 56:42
  Speaker 16: a lot of them just blindly trust their elected officials.
• 56:45
  Speaker 16: And it's unfortunate that a lot of them are just
• 56:47
  Speaker 16: saying the right things but doing the wrong things behind
• 56:49
  Speaker 16: their back. And it's something that I've talked about here
• 56:52
  Speaker 16: at ALEC and want to credit Lisa Nelson for this one.
• 56:55
  Speaker 16: Is they are cheating fair and square. Now, yeah, it's
• 56:59
  Speaker 16: legal because they have a supermajority. They are changing the
• 57:03
  Speaker 16: laws and then saying, well, it's not illegal, Well, that
• 57:06
  Speaker 16: doesn't mean that it's not wrong. When Governor k Newsome
• 57:09
  Speaker 16: allocates or moves certain companies and groups to spend three
• 57:13
  Speaker 16: hundred million dollars on his wife's friends nonprofits in forty
• 57:18
  Speaker 16: nine other states, that's illegal in California. It's just a
• 57:21
  Speaker 16: beest payment, you know. And that's how you change the
• 57:24
  Speaker 16: laws with the supermajority. And that's part of our first
• 57:26
  Speaker 16: goals is to break the supermajority, expose the corruption in California.
• 57:30
  Speaker 16: What I've seen with my term is it may be
• 57:32
  Speaker 16: eight years of education, two years of implementation, and two
• 57:35
  Speaker 16: years of execution. But that can be accelerated if the
• 57:38
  Speaker 16: people of California decide to stand up in Ruth to South.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Now, he's very illegal. Option up and for rig and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: rob Bonte. Can you go and challenge that change of title?
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: We can challenge it in the state court, but good luck.
• 57:52
  Speaker 16: That's where when the appointments to the judicial system are
• 57:56
  Speaker 16: also under.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: California strame courts to the left left. And one reason
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I left the state is you can't get a fair
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: shake from the state courts. So it's a yes, I'm
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: thirty nine. How about you. You've been in two years.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: I've been in two years, and you have ten to go.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: I've got ten more to go.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: So that's like a prison sentence. I actually, do you
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: like Sacramento? It's not far from yere seven. He can
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: get back and forth pretty quickly where you live by
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: which party.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: I live in Fresno, actually, so I've got Fresno in
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: the eastern Sierrace.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, So do you like being in Sacramento? Do you
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like the legislature? Do they ever listen to you?
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Do they listen to me?
• 58:28
  Speaker 16: I would say no, but you know I do have
• 58:31
  Speaker 16: a new record in Sacramento. I am the fastest legislator
• 58:34
  Speaker 16: to be kicked off of committees.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Which ones I got kicked off.
• 58:37
  Speaker 16: Of pretty much everything from health utilities, insurance. I used
• 58:41
  Speaker 16: to be the vice chair of the Insurance committee. Why
• 58:44
  Speaker 16: the insurance commissioner was going to come and testify. I
• 58:47
  Speaker 16: found out that he's been using government money to pay
• 58:50
  Speaker 16: twenty three thousand dollars on tripst Affrican safaris. He spent
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: money to go to Pride Parade and don't your god intend?
• 58:58
  Speaker 16: And as I was going to question him, they kicked
• 59:01
  Speaker 16: me off.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I think you're the Brandon Gill of the California Legislature,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: except Brandon in the majority, so you've got to be
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in the minority for a while. But David Tangee got
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: how do I say it, tounguy poth tong Gika. What
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: is the ethnicity there?
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I'm Tongin. I'm Polynesian.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, very cool.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: So you're like the tackle for the Browns. I'm glad
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: to add your here. Spencer Fano, I'm glad to have
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you here. Yes, I'm thirty nine. Yes, I'm thirty nine.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: I'll say that. I'll take about it's take that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: In every program. Thank you, David, thank you for going
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: here in America. I'll be right back from the American
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Legislative Exchange Council on YouTube. I'm pleased to welcome at
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: this point Caroline Harris Doa Vila, who they get that right?
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: Do Vila?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: She is a representative for the state District fifty two
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: in Texas and tell us where House District fifty two is.
• 59:43
  Speaker 14: Absolutely.
• 59:44
  Speaker 17: House District fifty two is right outside of Austin, and
• 59:46
  Speaker 17: the biggest city in my district is round Rock, Texas,
• 59:49
  Speaker 17: and that's where.
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: I grew up.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So what is round Rock, Texas?
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 59:53
  Speaker 17: Round Rock is an amazing place to raise your family.
• 59:56
  Speaker 17: It's very family friendly. There's lots of youth sports activity there.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 17: That's kind of what we're known for. But it's right
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 17: outside of Austin, so it's kind of the suburban area
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 17: where a lot of people live in.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: Is that when the normies go to get out of Austin.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: Absolutely? Yes, no, absolutely, I've had Matthew mcconnie on it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I have to be nice. I think it was very,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: very nice. And when the book Green Lights came out,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: we botched the recording and so the next day I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: called him up, said we botcher, he did it again,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: and so okay, he really is a wonderful guy. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: so he lives in Austin. So I won't rag on Austin.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But they don't send many Republicans in the state House.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 14: No, they don't. Absolutely.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 17: We joke that sometimes we need a wall between Austin
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 17: and my district. So but yeah, my district is about
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 17: fifty five percent Republicans.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: And what's going on in there? What sort of stuff
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: has happened?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 14: We have so much growth.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 17: So we have Samsung building their newest semiconductor manufacturing facility
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 17: in my district.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 14: Oh my goodness, thousands.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 17: I mean, yeah, it's been great for our district and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 17: for our community. The school district there is absolutely benefiting
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 17: from their presence. And we're getting a lot of defense companies,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 17: We're getting.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 14: A lot of space companies. It's exciting. It's very exciting.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Now creep from Austin. I mean, in all seriousness, people
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: moved to Austin because they love it for a lot
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: of reasons. But they can tend to be Democrats. Left
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: the center that happening in the suburban ring.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 17: Yes it is, and I knock on a lot of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 17: doors every cycle.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 14: I love doing it getting to know my constituents.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 17: And that's one thing I asked them, did you move
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 17: from Austin And if you did, why? And I get
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 17: a lot of the prices going up in Austin and
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 17: so people are moving into my district because it's more
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 17: manageable and it's safer. I have had a lot of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 17: people mentioned that to me that they moved out of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 17: Austin because of their concerned about the safety police department.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: You knows, and that's a good thing. Yeah, you can
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: so tell me about housing affordability. When things start popping,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: house prices don't stop when they go up side. What's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: going on there?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 17: So in Texas and let's pass legislative session, we actually
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 17: did a lot of work to remove barriers for develop
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 17: and builders to be able to build better and faster
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 17: in Texas.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 14: So we are still not keeping up with the demand.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 17: As you know, everybody is moving from all the other
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 17: states to Texas, especially the.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Hill country is yeah.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 17: Sipping Springs, yes, absolutely, and to my district too. We
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 17: got a lot of good jobs as you can imagine,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 17: so that we're getting a lot of people from California
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 17: and New York all over the country.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Is there a university system attached anywhere in your district
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: or adjacent to it?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 17: Yes, So the University of Texas is not too far
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 17: in Austin, and then we also have University of Texas
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 17: A and M in my district, kind of a satellite
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 17: school there.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, So that's you've got all sorts. You've got all
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: sorts of people, all sorts of demographic. You took that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: district over from a fairly well known mister tall Rico.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 14: Tell I did, absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 17: I grew up in Round Rock, that's where I represent
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 17: and Tall Rico was my state representative for four years,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 17: and he would come into the district.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 14: He would win anything well. He was smart. He knocked
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 14: on doors, even Republican doors.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 17: And when I talked to those same Republicans when I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 17: ran against him, they just didn't understand his votes.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 14: They didn't know how radical his votes and positions.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 17: Were because he didn't talk about that with them when
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 17: he was at their door.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 14: He talked about other moderate issues, and so they believed
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 14: him to be a moderate.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 17: It wasn't until I explained his radical voting record that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 17: they understood how radical his views really were.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Is there a chance in near of you that he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: beats General Paxson?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 14: Not at all, Not at all.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 17: I mean, his record is so radical it's not even
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 17: mainstream Democrat favorable.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 14: In my opinion. You know, he does speak well, but
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 14: his policies we have.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I ran about that. I don't think he presents well
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: on TV. It's too squeaky.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 14: Well yes, okay, yeah, you have raised a good point.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: It's a voice deal with people in the broadcast profession.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: So he did not choose to run against.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 14: You, No he didn't.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 17: I announced a run against him, and instead of facing me,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 17: he ran to an Austin district much more friendly, ran
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 17: there one there, And so I tell people, thankfully we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 17: were able to kick him out of Williamson County, but
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 17: we got to.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 14: Kick him out of Texas for good.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So on the list of which are subject matter expert
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: is healthcare price transparent? Why is that on your list
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: of debuct matter expertise?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 17: Because when I first got elected, I had constituents being
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 17: sued by a hospital for medical bills as low as
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 17: five thousand dollars, and so when they try to get
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 17: an itemized statement to see if those if that was
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 17: a correct, correct price or not, they couldn't get it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 14: And so to me, it didn't make sense.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 17: You go to the help me and you get a receipt,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 17: you know, and healthcare should be the same.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 14: So I passed.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: You go to a restaurant sometimes the buill doesn't look
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: right and they've got two salads down or three beers
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: down or something, and that's not right.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 14: Yes, and that was happening in healthcare.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 17: I mean were there are so many billion errors that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 17: still go on in healthcare. And so the bill I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 17: drafted said, hey, all you have to do is give
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 17: the prices a plain language description so that we know, okay,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 17: you know it was aspirin or whatever it was they provided,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 17: and then the billion codes just so we can check
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 17: everything make sure it's correct. And you would have thought
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 17: I was trying to land someone on the moon again.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 14: I mean, people were like, no, you can't do this.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 14: You're a freshman, it's not going to happen.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 17: You're too young, and I just I just don't.
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  Speaker 1: Every healthcare adjacent business did not want to touch the codes.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: They not because they're evil, but because it don't make
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: us change anything.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 17: Yeah right, well yes, and there I had someone tell
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 17: me too, well.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 14: Our our customers don't want this information.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 17: Which flabbergasted me because I thought, Okay, I've talked to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 17: so many people just in my district that care about this.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 17: I guarantee everybody in Texas cares about this. So because
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 17: we were able to get that done, I ended up
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 17: getting Freshmen of the Year my freshman session because somebody
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 17: of people thought we couldn't.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 14: We couldn't do it.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Because freshmen ever passed anything anywhere in Texas.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 14: We do, but we're just better at everything in Texas.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: So when that came down, yes, last lobbying push, like
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: because you're going to track every limit, insurance company, healthcare provider,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: hospital system, they're all going to want no yes.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: So what was that like that?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 14: It was, you know, they changed our argument.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 17: So I joked because when I first presented the bill,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 17: they said this is going to cost us, you know,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 17: three million dollars. The next time I presented it, it
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 17: was one million. The next time it was a couple
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 17: hundred thousand. So I joked that by the time we
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 17: passed it, it would be free for them to do it
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 17: because they kept changing their arguments, and you.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 14: Know, it's it's healthcare.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 17: Things don't change quickly in healthcare, and they're kind of
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 17: averse to change, right.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 14: But again, this was so simple. It was a receipt
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 14: for your health care. That's all it was.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 17: And it has changed so many of my constituents' lives
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 17: just getting that statement.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Have you found out from people that they've actually been
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: able to call bill and say this, I didn't have
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: a broken arm. I didn't actually give me a splint.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 17: Absolutely, we had those stories. Even outside my district. People
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 17: have learned that I passed it, so they'll call my
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 17: office with their issues. And in one case, I have
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 17: to tell you this. They got the bill. It was
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 17: sent to a billing collector. Our office called the collector
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 17: and said, are you aware of this law? Do you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 17: know if the hospital followed it and they dropped a bill?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 17: They I don't.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Know what part I deal with billing collectors everywhere is
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that they're only paid a percentage of what they collected,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: and they don't want to spend any time work in
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: a particular file. They just wanted to many people into
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: writing a check, and so they can take their ten
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: percent and into business at lege and sometimes people don't
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: pay their bills, but yeah, we ask them to do
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: some work. Then I got to do it. Second thing, affordability.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So you're building a lot of houses in the district.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: How are you going to keep the prices down?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 17: By making sure that we have a steady regulatory environment
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 17: in Texas, which you do really well. So just making
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 17: sure that there's not government regulations in place that don't
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 17: make sense for the business environment.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 14: We did that this past session.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 17: Just making sure that if there's a lot, for example,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 17: that can have four houses on it, the city is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 17: not saying you can't do that, you know, and it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 17: just if it makes sense, the developer can come in
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 17: and do it and provide that service.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: So I was on the impression Texas was pretty welcoming
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: when it came to property rights. You can put ten
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: houses on there. That you can put ten houses on there.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 14: It's true.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 17: It's just some of the big cities we call them
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 17: the blueberries and the Tomato Soup of Texas, so Houston, Austin, Dallas,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 17: that had some regulations that were just getting in the way.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: So what since you're a freshman, Yes, what's the trajectory
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: look like to you? You love your job?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: I love you do it forever.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 14: I could do this forever. I love what I do.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 17: I like being in the Texas House because I do
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 17: have two hundred thousand constituents, but I still feel.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 14: Very close to them. I run every two years.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: How many house schools are in the district.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 17: There are, Oh gosh, probably ten, if I'm okay, I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 17: think incorrectly.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a popping district with a lot of kids
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: and a lot of parents who need a good school.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: And they want roads that their kids don't get killed them.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 14: Yes, one hundred.
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  Speaker 8: You know what.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 17: And I serve on the Transportation committee, and that's one
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 17: of the number one things I do for my district
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 17: is getting stop lights put in so that doesn't happen.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Well, having raised three kids in Irvine, California, Yeah, I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: know what matters to parents. Good schools and roads on
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: which the kids don't have to go around an airpin
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  Speaker 1: turn blind going in So and Alex. Which committee do
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  Speaker 1: they put you on?
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm on Health and Human Services and Communication and Technology.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: How they get you into it?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I'm curious.
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  Speaker 17: I am such a nerd that I put myself into
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  Speaker 1: Senator Adam Hill Hina Hosa. I got to say that
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  Speaker 1: three times. Adam and Alsa is a freshman senator in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Texas. Welcome Senator Sarah Bettencourt. Your colleagues
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  Speaker 1: do want me to ask you about the tomorrow?
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  Speaker 19: Oh yeah, well, I think what he means. They're the
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  Speaker 19: inch all out of the plates that we did. We
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  Speaker 19: took a page in our campaign tour out of a
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  Speaker 19: little bit of a Democrat playbook. But we were inviting
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  Speaker 19: people to come meet me through a drive by meet
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  Speaker 19: and greet, and we.
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  Speaker 4: Had lines of cars.
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  Speaker 19: Praise God, they were interested enough and what we had
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  Speaker 19: to say. We talked about issues that connected with voters,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 19: you know, Hispanic, big Hispanic population down in South Texas,
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  Speaker 19: and we connected on issues and we talked about those
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 19: issues and they were willing to come meet me.
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  Speaker 1: You defeated an incumbent, yes, sir, and they that's really
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: kind of unusual in Texas. So how'd you do that?
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  Speaker 6: Hard work?
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  Speaker 19: You know, my dad was a political consultant growing up,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 19: so I was in the political space for a long time.
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  Speaker 19: Now how to grassroots campaign, but really more than that,
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  Speaker 19: my dad had a knack of being able to connect
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  Speaker 19: with voters in the issues that mattered most of them.
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  Speaker 19: Harnessed all that along with the very conservative values that
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 19: I have, and we were able to get our message.
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  Speaker 1: Out no center. You know, I was what what was
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: your background before you got in? What were you doing
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: when you decided to become because you're a.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 19: Freshman, yes, sir, A small business owner again, you know,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 19: I started in the family business. My dad was political consultants,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 19: so I had a lot of experience in running and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 19: helping other campaigns, and then we enterprised a little bit.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: I owned a retail store, jewelry store for many years.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 19: Got into the restaurant business after COVID had a little
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 19: bit of commercial real estate and you know, just some business,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 19: small business background.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: So I want to talk to you about the big
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: three issues that they gave me. They tell me that
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  Speaker 1: you're a specialist on ban on taxpayer lobby is funding.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know what that means, but I like it.
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  Speaker 19: Well, yeah, what it is is basically, you have groups
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 19: that are paid for by you know, our our isds,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 19: our cities, our counties, and they.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: Use our taxpayer dollars and.
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  Speaker 19: Have memberships into these organizations that come to Austin and
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 19: hire lobbyists.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: To business in California. Yeah, a lot of district belong
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and it's actually school board superintendents and school board many lobbyists.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 19: And what they do, it's it's different than your private
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 19: sector lobby groups that you know, our our.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Industry specific to the needs that they have.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 19: This is actually taking money, our tax owned taxpayer dollars
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 19: and then fighting against the will of our own voters.
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  Speaker 4: Right yeah, right, Well, and just a quick example, you.
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  Speaker 19: Know, we had to build uh, the Women's Privacy Act
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  Speaker 19: Center Middleton past last session. I joined authored the bill
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 19: and our biggest opponents were lobbyists paid for with our
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 19: own tax dollars to stop uh, to try to stop
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 19: us from stopping men and going into women's restrooms in
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 19: private spaces. And you know that was a big push
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 19: from the school lobby groups and it.
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  Speaker 4: Was something that you know, he's in our own.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: High welby school lobby groups be opposed to that.
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  Speaker 19: You've got a big segment of liberal ideology in those
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 19: in those organizations, you know, our cities and counties that
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 19: you send lobbyists to stop and prevent us from reigning
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 19: in property taxes because they live, their organizations thrive on that.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 19: They need that tax dollar money too.
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  Speaker 1: That's my segue to property tax try sir, I didn't
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: know that Texas had a property tax problem.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 19: Well, you know, we do a pretty good job, sir,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 19: but you know, as again as a small business owner,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 19: there's a lot more we can do, especially in the
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 19: way of our small businesses.
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  Speaker 5: We had a great.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 19: Session lasts you know, some great policy passes last session
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 19: where we increase the business personal property tax exemption from
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 19: twenty five hundred all the way up to one hundred
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 19: and twenty five thousand, almost effectively eliminating business, personal property
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 19: tax for most small mom and.
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  Speaker 5: Pop that's a good thing.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: That's a great thing.
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  Speaker 19: But we still have a lot more work to do
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 19: with commercial real estate. We've got more on our homesteads
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  Speaker 19: that we you know, we can't be mortgaging our homes
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 19: to pay for public education. So only two other ways
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 19: to do that is to get to cut wasteful spending
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 19: where we can and get more more.
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  Speaker 1: People moving into Texas. Are you okay with that? Texas
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: pretty popular?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: Right well, we're already doing it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 19: My district is home to two major ports, where the
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  Speaker 19: number one LNG export or excuse me, crude oil port
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 19: in Corpus Christie, number two l G Export Port, and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 19: then in the in Brownsville, we're home to SpaceX. Their
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 19: port of browns Will just landed a big autonomous shipbuilding
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 19: business and they've started their LERG program. And we're home
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 19: to America First refiness. It's aaronic, yes, sir, seronic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, you're going to be busy.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yes, sir.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Have you been to the plant yet?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yes, sir.
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  Speaker 19: We were working very much behind the scenes with our governor,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 19: Lieutenant governor, and speaker to help rein them in to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 19: my district, and so we're very.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Thrilled they have done administrated proof of concept in the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: battle with Iran stright two different occasions, they saved the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: down airman with an autonomous surface vessel and they took
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: out their manding submarine capability and maintenance facility. You know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: it's exactly right, bonomous capabilits, Ironic is like anderol, they're
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: two hot name so right, that's very Now, Allen g. Export,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: how's that that also has to bring some unique security concerns?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 19: Well, you know there there is some concern with that. However,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 19: you know, we export abroad quite a bit.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Safety I mean security, I mean bad guys.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 19: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right that
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 19: that coupled with you know, Saronic and other things that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 19: are their space X. I mean, we're we're in a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 19: race for space control. Elon's doing a great job and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 19: what he's doing down there, but that obviously creates target there.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 19: We're powering, you know, through the through port of Corpus
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 19: Christian and we're we're providing all the jet fuel for
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 19: Dallas and everywhere else.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: So what is the district number?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Just district number twenty seven.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: That must be the most interesting district in the United States.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: I believe it is SpaceX and Saronic and Ellen g
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: and Oil.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 19: Tesla's in there, and then I've got vast farm and ranching,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 19: you know, enterprises including King Ranch.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: So I've got it all.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: You've got the biggest ranch in America, yes, sir. And
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: you've got SpaceX and Tesla.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 19: Yes their and so if you can visit these things
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 19: and you have a good time. And I'm the first
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 19: Republican to represent that area and it's only been represented
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 19: by Republican for a year and a half.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Well, are the business owners and the people equally happy
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: with you because you have to have small businessmen, working
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: people along with Elon. I mean, you gotta have them
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: all on your side.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 19: I think we're doing a great job. And again, we
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 19: have a more of a conservative group of people down
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 19: there that we just have to embrace. You know, we've
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 19: got conservative Democrats there. I know that's not a thing
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 19: in most parts of the country or even northern parts
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 19: of Texas, but South Texas for sure, we have them
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 19: and showing the capabilities of what we're able to do
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 19: and engage them in the things that matter to them.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: I think we're winning them over now.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: With that many businesses, though, you're going to have a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: water supply issue, not a problem, but an issue. How
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: are you making sure you got the infrastructure to serve
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: that many big and growing corporations.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 19: Well, you know, as you've probably heard Corpus CHRISTI has
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 19: been an emergent drought situation with our western reservoir systems
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 19: literally driving out. Okay, well, we've been entertaining marine DSAIL
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 19: for a long time, but as you know, those are
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 19: very very expensive projects. One of the things I just
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 19: literally minutes ago passed out here at Alec's model legislation
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 19: based off of my Senate Bill eleven sixty nine, which
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 19: I passed in first session, allows for the creation of
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 19: public utility agencies regional approaches to capitalize on economies of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 19: scale get very expensive projects like marine DSL, massive flood
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 19: mitigation projects, regional wastewater treatment plants, those types of programs
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 19: that can be done in a regional capacity. It provides
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 19: that framework to allow political subdivisions to together.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Look at the Gulf states that are in the war
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: right now, and Iran is targeting their detail plants because
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: they're all over the place as real got them suiting,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: anybody's got them quite UAE got a minute. Why is
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: it so expensive? Why can they do it? We can't
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: do it?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 19: Well, you know, we have different framework in the United States.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 19: You know, other countries can do things that they want
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 19: to do. I mean, we've got imminent domain laws. We
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 19: have a lot of other different things. Not that that
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 19: particular project would require that, but one of the most
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 19: expensive portions of marine disaw's your outflow, your discharge, if
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 19: you're doing it properly, a couple of miles offshore to
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 19: discharge the cron concentrate, the concentrate that's produced from the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 19: processing of the reverse osmosis that you need to to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 19: clean salty water.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Senator Adam hill Hosa, I want to have you back
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: because that is the most interesting district in the United
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: States of America. Sir, God speak you and congratulations. I'm
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: winning upset win being the first Democrat since Republican since
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: reconstruction to represent you. Thank you. Senator. Be right back
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: in America. Stay tuned on you ark.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: I'm back America.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: You do it in Orlando at the American Legislative Exchange
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Council Annual gathering for Polish. I'm joined by Florida Representative
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: John Snyder, represented Snyder. You've got the Donald Trump Airport. Now,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: tell me about that. How did you get that done?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 20: Well, it's just was unveiled as of the last couple
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 20: of weeks. I've got to have the privilege of flying
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 20: out of that airport often, and so the name is
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 20: officially up President Donald J. Trump in National Airport. The
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 20: signs welcome you now as you come into the airport.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 20: And really all the credit goes to Meg Weinberger, Representative Weinberger,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 20: who worked tirelessly. She was the lead sponsor of that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 20: effort and worked through this legislative cycle.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: The president of the most airports that are John Wayne
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Airport in Orange County, California and Ronald Reagan Airport in
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: d C. So I like naming it for people that
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I know and have some respect for. So I think
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: that's a great choice for ALIX.
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  Speaker 5: What do you do?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Are you the school choice guy for ALEC? What's your
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: committee here? For American Legislating Exchange Company?
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  Speaker 5: Diehard supporter of school choice Hugh.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 20: It was one of those issues that when trying to
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 20: find out where I was going to send my daughter
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 20: to school and realizing that she wasn't quite picking up
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 20: some of the speech patterns like everyone else in her
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 20: class was. We realized that the traditional cookie cutter approach
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 20: in the public school system was not going to suit
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 20: her best. Ultimately led me into the quest of school choice,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 20: which really got me involved in politics in the first place.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 20: So any chance I can try and spread that message
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 20: on empowering parents and setting up our students for success,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 20: I'll appreach it from the mountaintops.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Well, then you must have loved the future first Lady's
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: beach yesterday at lunch, because she's going to be the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: number one I think across the nation spokesperson for school choice.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: Erica Donalds has been a warrior on that front.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 20: And as it turns to you, before she was our
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 20: prospective first Lady. It was actually Erica who, through my
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 20: journey in the school choice movement, was introduced to her
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 20: in the early years and someone said, have you ever
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 20: heard of classical charter school? The classical charter school movement?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 20: I said, I think you've got the wrong guy. I'm
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 20: bad at music and I don't know anything about charter schools.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 20: And Erica quickly schooled me up and realized that this
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 20: is how we've educated our children from the early foundations
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 20: of our country. Thomas Jefferson said that in order to
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 20: have a self governed society, we must be a well
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 20: educated citizen, and so trying to return back to the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 20: basics reading, writing, arithmetic, training kids how to think, not
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 20: what to think, is really, in my opinion, the secret
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 20: to how we continue to steer the beautiful ship of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 20: the United States of America and keep her on track
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 20: is passing that torch to this next general.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Real history and real civics. I hope is in that too,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: because we've gotten away from real history and real civic
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Is there anything left to do In the Florida school
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: choice thing. It seems to me you might be the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: leader in school choice across the country.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 20: I would say that if you ever play in sports,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 20: once you have the belt, the biggest mistake you could
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 20: ever make is to begin comp be complacent, take your
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 20: foot off the pedal.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: So we're always.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 20: Looking for areas to improve. I think the next phase
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 20: is really locking in our student the ability to track
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 20: where kids are every day in class. Those with school choice,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 20: I think there's an opportunity sometimes for the dollar to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 20: get moved around potentially. We saw some delays with our
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 20: school districts getting the proper funding, our homeschool parents being
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 20: able to draw down those dollars, so being able to
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 20: unlock that big question of our daily attendance for our
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 20: students in Florida. That's the next horizon to really take
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 20: this to the next life.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, We've also talked with a lot of people about
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: property taxing form in different states. Does Florida have that
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: issue as well?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: We do.
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  Speaker 20: So part of the work that we did in this
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 20: last legislative session, and Governor DeSantis was again leading on
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 20: this for the last couple of years, is calling out
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 20: the simple math. At local government level, revenues have gone
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 20: up one hundred and forty percent compared to an eight
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 20: percent growth rate throughout the state.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: So our services haven't gotten better, but the revenues have
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: gone up.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 20: A lot of that was the property values and the
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 20: post COVID surge as people came to Florida. So we
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 20: put on the ballot an effort to dramatically reduce property tax.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 20: So now it'll be up to the voters on the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 20: November ballot if.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: It is a measure number or name it will be.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 20: It's waiting approval from the Supreme Court, so once we
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 20: get the exact number and name, but anything related to
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 20: property taxes on the ballot will be that initiative.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: So we're hoping to see that one get across. Let
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: me know the number.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: And in California we got to pass Prop thirty nine
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: because that's election integrity. Butter ideed yep out of here.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Property tax reform could be a model for the state.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Let's close with election integrity. I don't think Florida has
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: a problem with that either, does it? Is there a
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: ways that you'd have to appear you're running the perfect
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: state here?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: Well, again, thank you for saying that.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 20: But just like anyone, when we look under the hood,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 20: we know there's always room for improvement.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: The President just made his address to the nation. We
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: know that there have.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 20: Been areas where illegal individuals that are in this country
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 20: illegally have made it onto the voter rules.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: That is something New Jersey just admitted it. That's it.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 20: Well, we have to make sure that it's not happening
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 20: here in the state of Florida and that any potential
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 20: loophole is covered up. But what we've done well and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 20: has been talked about here at the ALET conference, is
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 20: when you compare Florida to Bush v.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: Gore when we had the.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 20: Hanging Chad saga, to where now we are a leader
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 20: in the nation. Within fifteen to twenty minutes after the
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 20: polls closed, we know the winners. Every state in the
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 20: country should do that, and that's what we call on
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 20: Congress to immediately pass the Save America Act.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I'm from I've spent most my life in California. It's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: the worst. It's absolutely the worst. But I began my
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: rate they shall began in two thousand. So I went
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: on vacation the night after the election, thinking I can
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: go on vacation and this is in dial up modem
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: day and I'm stuck in a Wai trying to figure
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: out what you bozos? Your Supreme Court was crazy? Then?
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: Is it better? Now it's been.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 20: We've seen a drastic improvement again thanks to the appointments
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 20: that Governor DeSantis has made. It's been a completely reshaping
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 20: of our Florida Supreme Court.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: And so a lot of those rulings from the early
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: days are being.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 20: Either corrected through administrative ruling, legislative cleanup, and so again
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 20: cannot speak highly enough of governors.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: We don't ever want to go through that again. I'll
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: close with law enforcement. Florida does have unique law enforcement
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: challenges because you're a coastal state. People can come in
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: by a boat from anywhere. What are you doing in
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: suport law enforcement down here?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: Everything starts with safe streets.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 20: You can't have a strong economy if people don't feel
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 20: safe going to work, going to shop. One of the
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 20: things that we did recently in the last few years
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 20: in the legislature was this crackdown on organized retail crime.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 20: Speaking of California, you can't walk into a CVS or
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 20: Walgreens without having to take your ticket up and get
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 20: the toothpaste out of the aisle, your shaving cream, etc.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 20: We said, that's nonsense. If you commit those types of crimes,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 20: if you're trying to skirt the law and take advantage
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 20: of good, hard working citizens, we're going to find you,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 20: prosecute you.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: And so we've Jonah Lackride sorrows prosecutors or if you do,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: I think the governor fires them right without.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: A doubt, without it out.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: John Snider, great to meet you, Great to have you
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: on the program. Thank you for joining me, Florida is
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: the poster child of states. Smell of freedom wherever you
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: go around down here. Thank you. I'll be right back
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: in America. A final segment from Orlando on the excuse you.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: Of show.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. I'm wrapping up two days at ALEC.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I want to thank Pete and Lou, who are from Orlando.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Is the answer ninety four point nine FM and AM
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: nine point fifty because they have made this all happen flawlessly.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Dwayne is on some cruise ships somewhere just loafing, and
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: so Pete and Lou stepped up and into the breach,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: as did Bob, Robert and I from Tampa. Thanks to
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: him as well. Thank you guys are really pros. Thank
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: you very much. And nothing when Dwayne two thinks all
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: you goes wrong and they they mess up, it's terrible.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: But I want to close with Mayor Mom Donnie, because
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: he's gone from being a clown to be in a
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: menace and he's defining socialism down. He's actually a communist,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: I think, and I say that as a student of
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: the genre. Means he's a Marxist and he actually has
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: a goal. Here's Mayor Mom Donney yesterday defining socialism down.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 13: If you go back to some of the Democrats that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 13: we most admire, FDR LaGuardia, we'll see a lot of
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 13: democratic socialist principles in their vision. And if you think
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 13: about a lot of what we've come to accept as
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 13: just the facts of life across our country, a lot
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 13: of it is also still driven by democratic socialist principles.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Now, if tech PRESI, that is a lie. FDR was
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: not a socialist. Laguardian was not a socialist. He's talking
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: about public services. He's telling you about the social welfare
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: and safety net. That has always been part of the
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Republican platform. It's always been part of the democratic platform.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: It is not the state operation of basic businesses. Now,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: there are some state operations like the TVA. They throw
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: that out, Tennessee Valley Authority. That is a good thing.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: And they run airports, they run bridges, they have port authorities. Yes,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: those are essential public services. And by goodness, the military
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: is run by the government too. Mom DOMI is lying,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: but he lies like if he's moving his lips, he's liing.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Here's Ted Cruiz on what's happening to the Democrats, or
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: maybe it's not going to play for it.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 21: I think she'll run for president. I don't think she
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 21: will run for Senate. But I'm going to make a
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 21: prediction for you, Sean. My prediction is Comrade Mondami the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 21: next Democrat senator from New York, that Mondami will replace Schumer.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 21: I think Mandami is the single most powerful Democrat in
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 21: the country. And I got to say, by the way,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 21: that there are some Republicans that are celebrating this is great.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 21: Our opponents are crazy. That's going to help us. I
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 21: want to say for the record, I'm not celebrating. I
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 21: think this is bad for the country. I think this
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 21: is unhealthy. I want to see two normal parties that
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 21: are not filled with crazy people who can actually do
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 21: something reasonable.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: I'm just telling it. He's right.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: But here's the Achilles heel of AOC and Mondani. They're ignorant.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: They're ignorant in basic history. I mean that whole Oh,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: it's all FDR is a socialists many of the same principles.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: It's all charade. Don't believe it. Don't believe it for
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: a second. You know what public services. What I'm about
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: to tell you food for the poor, responsor of our show.
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  Speaker 1: We like to partner with them because they get food
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  Speaker 1: to people in Central and South America and the Caribbean
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  Speaker 1: who are hungry every single day. Food crisis always food
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  Speaker 1: in sequar You already in the Caribbean, but right now,
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  Speaker 1: especially in Venezuela after the earthquake, especially in the neighboring region,
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  Speaker 1: please be generous. Head over to Hugh Hewitt dot com.
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  Speaker 1: There's a give food banner at the top. Through summer
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  Speaker 1: Annual fun Drive. They took care of venezuel over the
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  Speaker 1: last three weeks. This weekend next I'll be telling you.
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  Speaker 1: five five five that's eight five five three five nine
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  Speaker 1: forty six seventy three, or just go to Hugh Hewitt
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  Speaker 1: dot com and the give food banner. Thank you Adam,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Harley. Mark Davis is in for me tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be back on the air regular show come next Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Come next Monday, Hugh Hewitt Show. Thank you Mark in
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  Speaker 1: Advanced for sitting in for me tomorrow. Thank you Alec
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  Speaker 1: for having me