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Why Trump's Iran War is America's 21st Century Vietnam – And Worse | Silk and Steel · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Silk and
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  Speaker 1: Steal Podcast. This is actually my first episode after my
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  Speaker 1: YouTube but Kank got reinstated, so I'm very honored to
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  Speaker 1: start my first show after my return with Einar Tengen,
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  Speaker 1: senior fellow funks CIGI.
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  Speaker 2: Einar, I had.
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  Speaker 1: You on this show before the war, which now seems
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  Speaker 1: like age ago, and you predicted this is what happened.
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  Speaker 1: You actually told me on this show that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yes and no. I mean I thought, oh, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's probably going to go after a round.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think it would be this serious. I thought
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  Speaker 3: he was. I mean obviously with Epstein files, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and the domestic failures not going the way Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: anticipated things. Of course, not having a plan or a
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  Speaker 3: clue that doesn't help. But anyway, this I thought he
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  Speaker 3: was going to do something for show like the Last
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  Speaker 3: Twelve Day War where he fires some missiles and hit something,
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  Speaker 3: proclaims victory and then you know, the Iranians fire some
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  Speaker 3: you know, missiles off into a field and everyone goes home.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason I thought that is because exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look where we are, there is no return.
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  Speaker 3: We we you know, we we lit the fire and
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  Speaker 3: now we can't put it out. And you have this
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  Speaker 3: really weird thing where Donald Trump is attempting to get
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  Speaker 3: out and he's trying to get everybody he you know,
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  Speaker 3: was mean to step in. I mean, he's going to
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  Speaker 3: the European powers in hey, you know a Japan You
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  Speaker 3: know about surprise, you know, Pearl Harbor. I mean, as
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  Speaker 3: I was saying to you before the show, if I
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  Speaker 3: describe a candidate like Donald Trump becoming president, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: people would say, oh, come on, you know the Simpsons
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  Speaker 3: did that. You know, it's not credible that you could
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  Speaker 3: say something like a six time bankrupt who you know
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  Speaker 3: thirty women almost thirty women have accused of groping them,
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  Speaker 3: who's had numerous fraud broad counts, forty two criminal convictions
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  Speaker 3: for tax evasion. I mean, it just would just people say.
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  Speaker 2: No, you know, are I are?
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  Speaker 1: America is truly the land of opportunity, man. Everyone got
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  Speaker 1: a chance, everyone have a shot to be the president
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  Speaker 1: of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that, but I mean is I mean it's
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  Speaker 3: like I remember talking to a to somebody in the
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  Speaker 3: in the Maga Party, a friend of mine, and he's said, well,
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  Speaker 3: do you feel funny about that. No, no, no, not
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  Speaker 3: at all. I mean, you know, he's really he's better
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  Speaker 3: at it than they are. He says, you've been cheating.
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  Speaker 3: He says, well, you know, you got to use somebody
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  Speaker 3: like that to change the system. He's on he's on
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  Speaker 3: my side. Okay. Well, I wonder how they're feeling right now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I was looking at the polls just before
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  Speaker 3: I came on, and you know, the base, UH is
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  Speaker 3: pretty much still with him. You're you're in the high
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  Speaker 3: seventies for now. They don't really think. They don't want
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  Speaker 3: troops on the ground, they don't want more money being
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  Speaker 3: spent on a war. They don't understand that will be
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  Speaker 3: nothing for them except race gas prices. And then there's
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  Speaker 3: a food shock that people aren't really talking enough about.
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  Speaker 3: And it's it's just it's it's unbelievable. I mean, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, I mean, every how do you explain some
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  Speaker 3: guy who says, well, I could end this war in
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  Speaker 3: two seconds. Okay, but I need uh Europe and Japan
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  Speaker 3: to send in their destroyers and their mind sweepers were
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  Speaker 3: I'm not willing to send mine so they can get
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  Speaker 3: shot down, and then they could get involved in the
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  Speaker 3: war and we can leave having started this things. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's just incredible, and you know the amount of damage.
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  Speaker 3: You know, people keep asking me on these shows. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so what's happening? I said, Well, I said, well, und
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  Speaker 3: Trump wants out. He made a huge miscalculation. He was
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  Speaker 3: surrounded by Pete he set Warrior, and the other others
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  Speaker 3: who around him was a yes boss, yes boss. I
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  Speaker 3: mean Tulsea Gabbert, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Calsey Gabbert disappeared under the radar.
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  Speaker 2: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: They tragged her in front of the Congress, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: she's the first statement she said is these do not
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  Speaker 3: represent my personal opinions. The first question of Congress was,
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  Speaker 3: It's just that's an unusual statement. I've never heard that before.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean by that? It's just, well, you
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  Speaker 3: check your personal opinions at the door. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's why we have a national uh different, somebody
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  Speaker 3: in charge of national security, so they don't give us opinions.
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  Speaker 1: And j also disappeared.
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  Speaker 3: Gainst all foreign wars and things like that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and Trump saying, well, you know JD. You know JD,
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  Speaker 3: but he's out there selling the kool aid on everything else.
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  Speaker 3: So America is going to merge stronger and better, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and then they have you know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I sorry to you grew up, but I
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  Speaker 1: know I know exactly what you were saying about. You
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  Speaker 1: think Trump is going to do something about Uan, but
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  Speaker 1: you didn't expect what we get to like where we
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  Speaker 1: are now. So I actually want your take.
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  Speaker 2: How did we get here? How the heck did we
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  Speaker 2: get here?
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  Speaker 1: Like we know, people knew that Uran has the capability
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  Speaker 1: of closing the street or her moves. That's why for
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  Speaker 1: the past seven US president they have never done anything
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  Speaker 1: because you know, they had a plan to go after
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  Speaker 1: Uran back in the nineteen nineties, like General Wesley Clark
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  Speaker 1: had said in an interview in the two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: he said, oh yeah, I saw you know, somebody from
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  Speaker 1: the Pentagon had told me there was seven country in
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  Speaker 1: the list.
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  Speaker 2: What Iran is the last one standing on the list.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a reason Uran is the last one standing
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  Speaker 1: because it's a bad idea to go after Uran. So
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  Speaker 1: how the heck did we get here ininar?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? All right, so you know this has been in
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  Speaker 3: the playbook for a while, but you have to go
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  Speaker 3: back to nineteen ninety six and this guy named Richard Pearl,
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  Speaker 3: and he does his study and he calls it Clean Break,
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  Speaker 3: and what it proposes is he and it's given to
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  Speaker 3: nat Yaku who's just coming into office, and it says, listen,
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  Speaker 3: you know this, this diplomacy thing, trying to get along
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  Speaker 3: with your neighbors, trying to negotiate a way in which
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  Speaker 3: Israel can live peacefully among its Arab neighbors, forget it.
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  Speaker 3: What you need to do is weaken every single regime
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  Speaker 3: around you, all right, Dominate them, destabilize them, and then
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  Speaker 3: you're you're king of the hill. Because anybody gets a
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  Speaker 3: little funny with you, you just, you know, do whatever
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  Speaker 3: is necessary to destabilize them. So Netnahu at the time says, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that, you know, not me anyways. Ever
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  Speaker 3: since then, every so many years, over the last thirty years,
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe more than fifteen or twenty times, he's
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  Speaker 3: claimed that Iran has either as two months or two
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  Speaker 3: weeks away from having a nuclear bomb. And that's over
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  Speaker 3: thirty years. So he's literally the little boy who's crying wolf,
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  Speaker 3: and the wolf is Iran. So they're fairly successful and
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  Speaker 3: destabilizing the Middle East. We can see that with our help,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq. Yes, as you said, you
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  Speaker 3: go down the list. If you go down this clean
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  Speaker 3: break list, we've basically checked off all the items except one,
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  Speaker 3: and that's Iran. So why, you know, what's the big
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  Speaker 3: problem with Iran. Well, let's see seven and a half
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  Speaker 3: million news in Israel. There's another two million Arabs, and
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  Speaker 3: then you have ninety two million Persians in Iran. Well,
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  Speaker 3: they're not all Persians, but you have ninety two million
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  Speaker 3: people in Iran and one thousand miles in between, a
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  Speaker 3: thousand kilometers. I'm sorry. So it's not something where you
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  Speaker 3: can hop over the border and you know, blow people apart.
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  Speaker 3: You know they're going to see things coming. You have
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  Speaker 3: a certain significant amount of exposure. They need big brother
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  Speaker 3: us to help them. And as you pointed out, seven
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  Speaker 3: presidents said, what are you crazy? I mean, the straits
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  Speaker 3: of Horror Mooz has been studied to death every military
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  Speaker 3: there's endless military white papers and studies that says, okay,
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  Speaker 3: here's the problem with Iran. You go at Iran, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to close straits of horm moves and that's twenty
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  Speaker 3: percent of the world's energy. This is known. This is
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  Speaker 3: not something well oh gee, I didn't know that, right,
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  Speaker 3: So this has been always a thing. But then enter
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Donald Trump is beset with problems domestically, you know, basically,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we know the Epstein files, which is a
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  Speaker 3: you know, we only have half of them so far,
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  Speaker 3: and they're pretty damning. A thousand, over thousand women trafficked
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  Speaker 3: to Of course, the FBI says, there's no no reason
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  Speaker 3: to look into this. You know, these co conspirators are
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  Speaker 3: so powerful that they bring down the world if they
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  Speaker 3: were all prosecuted, So we should just let them go.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, and obviously he's he's named in there extensively,
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  Speaker 3: and now there's coming out that you know, he was
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  Speaker 3: involved accused of being involved with the rape of a
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  Speaker 3: minor and multiple miners, and it seems to be a pattern.
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  Speaker 3: So given that he was in charge of Miss Teen
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  Speaker 3: USA and openly talked about how great it was that
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  Speaker 3: he could go into uh to the dressing rooms and
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  Speaker 3: see these pupipestant girls kind of taking their clothes off
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  Speaker 3: and just kind of stare at them, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: anyone should be surprised so here he has this massive
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  Speaker 3: problem and this this would literally end. If there's pictures
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  Speaker 3: or videotapes or anything like that, that is the end
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  Speaker 3: of them. He can claimed that it's all fake and
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  Speaker 3: it was planted many many years ago because they knew
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  Speaker 3: he was going to be president. But I think that
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  Speaker 3: would be the end of him literally. I mean he's
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  Speaker 3: been tough long for so long. You remember his his
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  Speaker 3: grab him by the you know, and that type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But this this, you know, uh small girls, no, n
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  Speaker 3: even his base would reject that. He also has his
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  Speaker 3: domestic failures. This reindustrialization completely down. I mean industrial industrial
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  Speaker 3: jobs are down in the last year, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: mean a little bit, I mean massively.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing how nobody ever talked about reindustrializing America anymore
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  Speaker 1: when when the.
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  Speaker 2: World is being choked off energy. It's amazing how that works.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I have no energy to run my industry. It's
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  Speaker 3: all being taken up by the people who are building
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  Speaker 3: these AI data centers. Except that seems to be a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a Ponzi scheme too. I give you money
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  Speaker 3: based on that, you borrow money, and you make orders
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  Speaker 3: and you go round and round. But where are the
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  Speaker 3: revenues that are going.
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  Speaker 1: To see are they expecting the golf air countries to
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  Speaker 1: come up with an investment the hundreds of millions.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe a little tough right now. Since the trillions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars that the GCC has invested in trying to make
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  Speaker 3: the golf area a peaceful, safe place to do business
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  Speaker 3: and set up you know what, shipping and you know,
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  Speaker 3: all this stuff, it's all gone. So who wants to go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you can go to Dubai right now and
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  Speaker 3: by condos pretty cheap. Same in Saudi Arabia and things
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  Speaker 3: like this. I mean, the x back community is there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be really really tough to
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  Speaker 3: hit invested in sports. It was all about tourism and
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  Speaker 3: all of them are doing it. They you know, the
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  Speaker 3: world's largest airlines are now located in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 3: They built huge terminals, right they prepared this thing. Saudi
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  Speaker 3: Arabia is hosting three events over the next six years,
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  Speaker 3: you know, huge events of soccer, you name it, all
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  Speaker 3: of these things, and it was all based on this
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  Speaker 3: idea that you know, the Middle East is stable. They
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  Speaker 3: even made peace with Israel simply because they said, look,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we have to diversify economies. We cannot take
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  Speaker 3: on Israel because it's backed by the United States. So
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  Speaker 3: we'll get friendly with the United States. We'll all out
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  Speaker 3: of the state the US to have a base or
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  Speaker 3: two in our countries, and those would be our shields,
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  Speaker 3: because who's going to attack the US? Right, that would
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  Speaker 3: be insane. How can you attack the most military powerful
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  Speaker 3: country in the world, who happens to have, you know,
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  Speaker 3: five thousand nuclear missiles. So they were thinking that, but
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  Speaker 3: because of the attack on Iran, they became these shields
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  Speaker 3: became targets. And you know, so Trump Trump thinks he
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  Speaker 3: does Venezuela. As far as he concerned, it's victory. I
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  Speaker 3: did it. Look I'm strong. I can beat the heck
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  Speaker 3: out of countries. I can steal their presidence. I can
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  Speaker 3: claim on Wikipedia that I'm the president of Venezuela. Do
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  Speaker 3: you know he put that on his Wikipedia that he's
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  Speaker 3: president of Venezuela. I don't even know the things I
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  Speaker 3: mean that in the gold coin you saw that recently, Right,
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  Speaker 3: he's putting his He's going to have the largest gold
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  Speaker 3: coin ever picked by people he just appointed. I'm serious,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not joking, and it's going to have his head
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  Speaker 3: on it. I mean that Rushmore, the Peace Prize. You
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  Speaker 3: sense there's a little bit of ego involved here anyway,
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  Speaker 3: So he doesn't. He's looking for a diversion. Here's a guy,
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  Speaker 3: and we've talked about this before and in his biographies
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  Speaker 3: he said, I get up every morning and I try
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  Speaker 3: to maximize the day. I don't think about yesterday, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think about tomorrow. I just think about how to
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  Speaker 3: maximize the day. So I can see him getting up
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  Speaker 3: and every day says, okay, how do I keep my
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  Speaker 3: failed policies, you know, industrial policies and economic stuff off
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  Speaker 3: the papers? And how do I keep Epstein off the headlines?
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  Speaker 3: And he says, okay, Venezuela all right? And then Venezuela
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  Speaker 3: that worked out. Let's go after Iran again. That seemed
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  Speaker 3: to catch people's attention. Every time you fire a missile Iran, everyone,
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  Speaker 3: you know, all the press dutifully follows and says, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen? Right, So he does that, but
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  Speaker 3: he decides he's convinced by nen Yaho that what this
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  Speaker 3: has to do be is a decapitation strike. Basically what
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  Speaker 3: they did in Venezuela but with you know, killing them
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  Speaker 3: instead of kidnapping them. So he does that, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he understands that the Supreme Leader is actually
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  Speaker 3: he's the pope and the political leader. He's the second
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  Speaker 3: most holy man in the religion. He has charisma, he's
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  Speaker 3: somebody who's followed, not everybody. A lot of unhappy people
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  Speaker 3: in Iran. And there were riots, but it wasn't thirty
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  Speaker 3: thousand killed. It was three thousand plus, no excuse, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it was, it should not have happened. You don't
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  Speaker 3: want to innocent people who are trying to express their
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  Speaker 3: just thing. But the extent they got violent, yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: can pretty much be assured that the IRGC, which is
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  Speaker 3: the dedicated and these are soldiers and priests. I'm not priests,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, they're holy soldiers. Part of what they
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  Speaker 3: do is they they are hardcore is Islamic and they
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  Speaker 3: they're Muslims, and they really do believe that the Great
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  Speaker 3: Satan is the US and the Little Satan is of
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  Speaker 3: course Israel. So for twenty years they have been parent
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  Speaker 3: been preparing for a military attack. You know, they didn't
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  Speaker 3: respond when they had the Twelve Day War as they
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  Speaker 3: have now. But They always knew that they had the
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  Speaker 3: straight sformos. They knew that militarily they cannot go toe
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  Speaker 3: to toe with the US. They also we had watched
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  Speaker 3: the US and knew that this would probably a decapitation
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  Speaker 3: spread strike, especially after what Israel has been doing to
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  Speaker 3: Hamas and other leaders in Lebanon, et cetera. So they
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  Speaker 3: prepared what they called the Mosaic defense. And what this
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  Speaker 3: means is they basically told commanders, in the event that
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  Speaker 3: certain things happen, that leadership dies, you're on your own.
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  Speaker 3: Here are your assignments. You're free to fire when you want. Right,
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  Speaker 3: you have a task, this is your area. That's your area,
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  Speaker 3: and you know you start firing at will based on
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  Speaker 3: your own command, not a chaining command. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how many of these cells they have throughout the country,
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  Speaker 3: but people have to understand this is the seventeenth largest
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  Speaker 3: country in the world both by population and by land mass.
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  Speaker 3: They have three mountain ranges going through it, which is
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  Speaker 3: one of the reasons the Iraq Iranian War. The Iraqis,
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  Speaker 3: despite all the help that the US gave them, were
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  Speaker 3: not able to invade Iran because they couldn't get through
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  Speaker 3: the darn mountains. It was too hard. Conversely, it was
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  Speaker 3: one of the same reasons that Iran was not able
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  Speaker 3: to counter attack successfully against Iraq, because their supply lines
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  Speaker 3: over those mountains was just as difficult. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the mountains formed a very very effective barrier to any
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  Speaker 3: kind of land based assault or anything like that. But
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  Speaker 3: they're also perfect to hide, you know, missile launchers. You know,
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  Speaker 3: your deep, gorgeous mountains. It's very very very art to
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  Speaker 3: find them. It's even harder to bomb them because it
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  Speaker 3: has to be pinpoint. You have to know where they are.
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  Speaker 3: And this is huge, huge amounts of land. So they
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  Speaker 3: are now in a situation that they since they've killed
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  Speaker 3: all the leaders, there's no one to talk to. And
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump just said that yesterday. He says, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to have, you know, some sort of things,
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  Speaker 3: but I guess I killed everybody I could talk to,
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  Speaker 3: including you know, the one that is most striking. And
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  Speaker 3: it was done by Israel, supposedly in coordination with the US.
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  Speaker 3: But there's questions about coordination because Trump said, don't destroy
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  Speaker 3: the oil assets, kill all the women and children you want.
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  Speaker 3: That's okay. You kill a lot of leaders, but keep
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  Speaker 3: the oil assets because you know, that's expensive equipment and
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  Speaker 3: we want it. And I'm not kidding. I mean you
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  Speaker 3: started looking at the way he's framing this war. He
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  Speaker 3: wants to save the oil industry, but not it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: seem to give a damn about the people. So what
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  Speaker 3: was my point? They they killed the negotiator. Now, this
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  Speaker 3: guy was famous because he was neutral. He was a
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  Speaker 3: bridge between the moderates in the Iranian government and the conservatives.
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  Speaker 3: He was trusted by both sides, and he for eighteen
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: years he's been dealing with the outside world. I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: he was the person you show up in the conference
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: room and there he's sitting across room. You say, hello,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: how are the kids coming? Let's get down to this.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Over eighteen years, you form relationships, even with people where
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you're on the opposite side of the table, you see
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: each other so often, you know about each other, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: there's that kind of connection. And they decided to kill him.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And from Israel's point of view, why would Israel do this?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: If Trump's trying to get out, guess who wants the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: US to stay. Israel. They're desperately afraid that if the
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: United States leave, they're stuck in an intractable war where
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: they're being held responsible for the death of the religious
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: leader and all his cabinet and the governt. You know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars in damage and the people
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: who've been killed. They're not going to forget this. This
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: isn't something like, oh, well, you know, I spilled my milk. No,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: this is they spilled the blood of my of my children.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: You know, one hundred and sixty five schoolgirls blown up.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: No one can seem to figure out why. You know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Trump is saying, well, who knows who fired it? Well,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: we do know it was an American rocket. Now it's confirmed. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: well maybe we did it, but you know, things happened
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: like that, or maybe there was somebody underneath that. They
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: haven't produced any proof it was. It's just a horrific
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: act of violence. It's terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism, whether it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: committed by an individual or state. And you know, humas
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: they engaged in terrorist activities, they follow the definition of
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: them hummas. But now Israel and US have engaged in
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the type of thing, So how can you say there
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: any different. So right now the US is stocking position.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Israel doesn't want them to leave the US wants to
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: figure our way out, but Iran is not going to stop.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I've had significant discussions of people from the Middle East
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and they're they're saying, well, maybe there's some way. I said,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: how I mean, the next time the Iran sits across
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: the negotiating table with the United States, they want a
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: US that is severely diminished. They want a US where
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the dollar thing, the dollar contract is the US dollar.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Something is ringing? Is that you or me?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: That's you? I muted my mic sir oh.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Alright, sorry about that, alright, okay, an event apologies profusely.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: They they can't stop. They want to weeken the US
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and they know that in terms of economics, we just
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: passed by the thirty nine trillion or whatever it is debt.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, we went to thirty eight from thirty eight
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: to thirty nine, and we're in this situation where we
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: need to have dollars buying treasuries, all right, because this
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: is all debt.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Right now, one point three billion dollars a day and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: lost oil row news because remember when oil from the
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Middle East was being sold all except the stuff coming
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: out of the Iran, which is being sold at rem
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and b when it was being sold. It was being
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: sold in US dollars. That was the petro dollar that
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: was created in nineteen seventy three, and so those dollars go,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: those trades go into dollars. The dollars are head held
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: generally as treasuries because you don't want to be taking
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: dollars in and out into your currency, not going to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: take if I'm Saudi Arabia, I'm not going to get dollars,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: trade them back into reals and then have to do
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: another trade into something else. They keep it in US dollars.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: If that starts to stop, all right, you take away
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a part of the US DOLLARHG enemy then with Iran
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: saying look, we're only going to work with those countries
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: who are settling their their oil deals and remen B,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: that's another strike to the extent that you know people
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: want to do business with them, but they're holding up.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: They are now have they actually write contracts. If you
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: want your ship to go through the straits of Horror
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: moves they can. There's conditions. You cannot be connected to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the US or Israel. You have to settle. You show
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: that you're settling your cargo in rem and B and
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you have to keep your tread transponder on. You're not
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: going to get insurance these So it's a very thing.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: So you know, who wants to ensure ships going through
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: war zones. It just doesn't seem like a real good
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: idea unless you can get the value of the ship.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I think, and a lot of these ships, remember, the
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: ships themselves are less value than cargoes. What has happened
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: is there are a lot of very old oil tankers
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: that are being used. Traditionally, they would have been in
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the scrap yard by now. But you know, let me
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: tell you a very interesting story. There's a Swiss group
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I can't l M l M something like this. They're
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: very interesting because they had a meeting with Donald Trump
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: and then a couple of meetings and with a very
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: short time they bid up the market for oil tankers anyone.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: The only thing that they insisted on is they had scrubbers.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: The scrubbers are necessary so that you can use high
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: sulfur I salve for fuel. Well, you know, the fuel
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: coming out of the Middle East is mostly what they
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: call sweet crude. It's very light, right, you don't need
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: ships that run on dirty fuel. The kind of fuel
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that you'd get out of Venezuela. Okay, And by the way,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: it's a lot cheaper to run. But these ships were
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: literally going to the scrap yard. And he's almost doubled
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: they bought. This is a group that is the largest
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: container shipping group in the world, and they have gone
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: aggressively after the markets for tankers. Tankers and containers are
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: two different industries. Yes, they go on ships, but they're
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: two different industries. They involve very very different things, different
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: boards of call and things like that, and they have
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: different kinds of logistics. So it's all like, well, I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: have a boat and it doesn't matter, I'll take l
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and G or I'll take containers. No, that's not the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: way it works. If you're if you're doing energy, you're
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: doing energy. And if you're doing or bulk lick cargoes
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: versus containers, it's it's very separate. But they made a
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: huge move, and we're talking billions of dollars in terms
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: of buying. This is a Swiss company. H And as
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I said, there was a couple of meetings at the
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: White House and all of a sudden, this very very
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: sudden move. So whether he anticipated he overheard something, who knows.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe he had a glass ball and he just said, Oh,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I know what's going to happen. But it's it's turning
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: out to be very lucrative for them because now shipping
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: rates are going through the roof. It's just any any
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: any ship that is available that can ship crude from
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: one place to another. But Iran is The US keeps saying, oh,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: we're going to take the island. Right. Here's the problem.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: They the island doesn't have any oil on it. The
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: island is simply a deep water area where you can
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: load cargoes. The oil comes and the gas comes from
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the land area. There are some pipes coming in from
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: there's the north field and the southfield. This is one
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: is the largest l and G liquify, the largest gas
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: field in the world, and there are processes to liquify
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: it because you have to gas is very expansive, ship
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: it by sea. You need to cool it down to
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: the point where it becomes a liquid, and then you
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: load it into these special ships and then they keep
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: it cool and then they go to another port and
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: then they offloaded and has to be warmed up very
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: slowly so it doesn't go boom, and then it can
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: be fed into the pipelines that go to people's homes,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: sort of businesses or factories or power plants and things
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: like this. So they have if you take away the island,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump's usual brilliance is they can't get any revenues. Well,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: they're charging any company that goes through the hormones, the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: straights of hormones money, all right, And I'm sure they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: charging a significant amount so they can make up their
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: revenues lost on one side simply taxing the other side.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: And this is probably what's going to happen. Well, but
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that this is going to increase the price of fuel
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: as whatever they add on top of it, that's going
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to be the price coming out. And the fact is,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: you know, you look at the energy market, it's not flexible.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: It's supplying demand are within a very narrow margin of
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: each other. Otherwise you start to have price fluctuations. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the big guys who control energy, the oil companies and
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the producers, they don't like fluctuations. I mean, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Saudi it does not want fluctuations. They need to keep
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: they want to keep it above the seventy six seventy
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: seven because they have a lot of expenditures many of
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the other countries. Obviously, if you're a producer, you want
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: to keep the price high. They don't want it too
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: high where it actually depresses global demand. But they feel
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: that there's an appropriate, a kind of goldilocks area which
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: works for them, so they don't want price fluctuations. So
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: that's why OPEK sets all of these limits. They say, okay, here,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: if we're aiming at this price, this is what we
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: should be producing because you know, this is where you know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: this is a sweet spot. This is where people continue
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: buying our product and we can still good rewards from it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: So you have a situation where now you have massive
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: price spikes and you don't really have the kind of
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: capacity globally to make it up. So when you take
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: out twenty percent of the world's oil, you know, I
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: think we talked I don't know if we talked about
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy three, OPEK took off between seven and
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: nine percent of the oil in the world. That resulted
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: in a four times increase. I think the price was
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: around twelve dollars a barrow and went up to forty
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: eight dollars a barrow, and it resulted in massive stagflation
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: in the United States. A tremendous amount of economic change
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: went on because of that, and then you had a
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: situation where in nineteen seventy nine, and we can see this,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the Iranian Revolution took off somewhere between three and five
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: percent of the world's oil, and at that point it
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: doubled the price of oil, so it was two x
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: same thing happened with Ukraine. That was less than the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: amount of oil that was coming out of out of
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Iran in seventy nine, but it's still double the price
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: in some cases. You know, in the short term, the
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: huge spikes, you know, people reacted, you know, you needed
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: to have the energy and things like this, but over
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: time it was literally it had a huge effect. Now
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: it kind of equalized. The US had gone places like
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: India after the Ukraine War and said, hey, you guys,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: buy the oil, and then what do you do? Don't
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: tell us. But actually what happened is they were buying
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: the oil and then selling it to Europe because, as
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I said, the supply and the demand are kept pretty thinks,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: there isn't a lot of extra in the cupboard. So
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: right now, when you're starting to look at something where
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: fourteen to fifteen million, double the amount that had in
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: seventy three. You're really looking at real problems, and the
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: problems aren't just about energy. You know, you need to
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: think about something. Every loaf of bread buy, it's between
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: fifteen and twenty five percent energy. You're thinking, Wow, how
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: is that being silly? No, fertilizer Twenty percent of the
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: world's fertilizer comes it comes out of the gas. They
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: use the nitrogen from the gas to make fertilizer. Twenty
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: percent of the world's supply. Is there fertilizer? Then I
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: need a tractor. I need you know, mechanized means to
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: take care of it. I need a pump to run
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the irrigation. All right. Then I need to pick it,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: then get it to market logistics, and that might to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: involve going down the road, or it might going across
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the world. Then if it's there, I mean, if it's
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: fresh produce, I need refrigeration. Then it needs to be
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: disseminated to the markets and things like that. And then
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: people go go there and if they use energy to
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: do it, you know, then they take it home. Maybe
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: they bake, you know, do something with it, warm it up.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: More energy so you know, there's a significant impact on food,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and I've heard quotes anything from five percent to ten
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: percent impact on food if this continues. And it's a
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: problem because you know, right now in India, farmers do
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: not have the diesel to run their tractors. It's not
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: it's not a question of buying at a higher price
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: which they couldn't afford anyways, but there isn't any diesel.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: You have places in the South Pacific they spend twenty
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: five percent of their GDP twenty five percent of their
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: GDP just buying diesel because they run everything off diesel,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: their electricity, their water pumps, their trucks and things. These
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: are islands. They do not have an electrical grid, a
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: centralized one, so they're stuck, you know, with these old
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: time diesel generators, which are of course they pollute a lot,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: all sorts of bad stuff. And this is true. I
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: mean Indonesia, I think what sixteen thousand islands about a
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: little more than half are inhabited. You're not going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: set up a centralized electrical grid going out to all
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: these islands. It makes sense. Now, there are alternatives, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: they should have been embraced a long time ago, especially
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: in the areas around the equator, unlimited sunlight, cheap solar
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: you can literally I'm involved in a company that does that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: They provide you know, you put up the solar panels.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: It's connected to something looks like a car charging port,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and you can run your communications Wi Fi of things,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: or you know, some sort of microwave that connects you
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: to the internet. You can recharge your phones, you can
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: run the lights in your home, and I don't mean
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: just one home by home. You can set these up
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: is what called micro grids, So on an island you
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: could have to or three of these. And you know
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: how long it takes to set them up. A couple
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: of hours, so we're not talking about grids in the
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: long period of times. It arrives as cargo in some
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: sort of container. You set it up, you put out
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the solar panels, you're connected up, and you're ready to go.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: It can run the pumps for your irrigation. It can
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: recharge batteries for running cars and little tractors and things
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: like this. So it's a complete system in a box
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: and within one to two years three years at most
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: at current prices, probably less than a year. You can
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: make all you can pay for it versus what you
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: would have paid for diesel and maintaining the diesel engines
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: and things like this. So it will in an odd way,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: push the world to be more green, especially in those
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: areas which depend on diesel. It will change the market
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: for diesel obviously, which is kind of interesting because you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: that's why Trump wanted Venezuela. They have lots of dirty oil.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be as popular
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: as it as it's it's as it once was once
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the diesel markets they're still you know, the tarmac and
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: everything like that is made.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Made from, by the way, the Venezuelan and oil, because
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: it has high sulfur content.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It's it's almost like tar.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: And you actually need the type of light sweet oil
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: coming from Middle East to dilute it so they can
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: move in the pipelines. And traditionally, before Trump's kidnapping O Maduro,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that was done with Uranian oil. They imported Venezuela, imported
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Iranian oil to mix it in with the local oil
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: to make it so you will go through the pipes.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And another thing you told me about this force transition,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: how people use energy. I remember the seventies oil shock
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: actually coincided with a wider adoption of Japanese cars because
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the Japanese car then was the most fuel efficient, and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: so that yes, yes, yes, yes, and I think something
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: like that will probably we'll probably see something like now
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: with the Chinese.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Ev adoption as well, because I'm so glad.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad I bought a Chinese CV last year.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you start to think in an internal
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: combustion engine, I have nothing against them, it's just that
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: they're not efficient, and they have two thirds more parts
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: than an electric car, so there's two thirds more things
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that you have to replace or they can break or whatever.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Now you know, obviously electric cars have issues, especially lithium ones,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: but now they're you know, China's come up with these
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: sodium ion battery They don't go boom, they have long,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: longer and deeper recharge and in fact, kilo for kilo
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: they hold much more energy than lithium and then it
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: can be charged many more times and when they come
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: to the end of their time, they're not an environmental hazard.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of progress being made and it's
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: going to continue. I mean, if you start looking at
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: solar costs, solar panels, and how cheap they are. I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: know that US and Europe don't want to buy cheap
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: panels to make the transition to renewables, and they want
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: to make expensive panels and sell them to themselves. You
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: can do that, but I don't know how you're ahead
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: any event. This is an area that's going to continue,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: and China is doing one other thing, and this is
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: that fusion they have it. I mean, the Chinese don't
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: put things on their five year plan very lightly. In
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: the fifteenth five year plan, they've said that by twenty
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: thirty we expect to have a working prototype, a commercial
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: prototype of a fusion reactor. The difference between fission and
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: fusion is fission is radioactive. The process creates a lot
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: of radioactivity three Mile Island, Fukushima, things like that, danger,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: very dangerous. Fusion on the other hand, produces nothing but
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: water vapor and it's it's you're splitting an atom, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: there's there's no nuclear half life that's involved with it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: So as a result, you get clean, limitless energy and
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: there's plenty of water around. They're using a heavy deteriumpe.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into the details, but my
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: point is that changes everything. You don't need oil. Things
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: will move more towards electricity because it's easier to use
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the elect You know, generate this huge amount of energy
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: and then you use that to run your car or whatever,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: your house, whatever it is that you really need. And
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: with these sodium ion batteries now they're at a point
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: where because the amount of power weight is better, they
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: can now stick them in in airplanes. So you could
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: have a personal airplane. Maybe it goes three hundred and
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: fifty kilometers or six hundred klometers whatever, but it can
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: get you there and back, and you can do the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: same with your car. They're estimating they can get fifteen
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: hundred kilometers out of one charge. Not that you need it,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: but that is that is, and it'll last four times longer.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Now those are claims. You don't know that the gun is,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: but it's certainly going to be significantly longer than a
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: lithium battery. And then after that there will be something else.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: There's a constant improvement, and China's been kind of leading
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the way on applied improvements, taking the knowledge and the
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: science and then putting it into products that people want
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: to buy and that are, you know, value and price
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: wise very attractive. So okay, But getting getting back to
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Iran and what Trump is doing, there is really no
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: way out. He can declare victory walk away, but Iran
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: will continue doing what they're doing, They'll continue to lash
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: out at Israel. But this brings up a very very
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: serious issue. Israel is getting pummeled. They're trying their best
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: to keep the publicity down, but you know, there are
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: are you know, things coming out. People are taking pictures,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: local people taking pictures, and they're posting on the internet,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and it's clear that there has been a significan amount
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: of damage. Now, this has never really happened before in Israel,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: So at some point you have to wonder if they
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: think that they cannot protect Tel Aviv are or they're
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: going to run out of missiles, will they use the
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: nuclear option.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: This is a country we haven't even seeing a real
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: video of the Yapou for a while.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's some Ai video of.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: He made. He made a speech yesterday where he acknowledged
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that he was not in sync. Well, Donald told me
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: not to bomb them. I bombed them, but I promised
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: not to do it again. And that was the uh this. Uh,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: that's that's what it is.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Attacked the gas facility, right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of the few times that
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I've seen Net and Yahoo can trite Oh yes, Donald, Yes,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: And now I remember Donald said don't bomb them. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: thought he said bomb them, so I bombed them. But
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: now I understand he said don't bomb them, So I
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: won't bomb them until I need to bomb Anyways, But
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, this this is somebody who's you know, if
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: he's if he's not an off, he's probably in jail.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: So where where does this go? I'm really really concerned
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: that he resorts to a nuclear bomb, either some sort
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: of false flag situation, say oh, we had to use
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: a nuke, and then you know, going to the US
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: and saying, hey, you know this is serious, you got
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: to help us out. I don't know what the reaction
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: of Donald.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Even even if it doesn't go new clear. I mean,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the fact that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Right now, right now, right right now, right now, Donald Trump,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is the fact that they're sending twenty five hundred marines
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: from Okinawa to to West Asia. That worries me because
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: right now there's they just they just sailed through South China. See,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they just went through straight of Malacca, which means it's
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: gonna take them another at least another week to even
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: move to the to the theater.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: That means they expect the war to last more than
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: a week from now.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: And this is get to strap yourself in. This is
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: going to be at least six months to a year.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I mean the past two hundred dollars. I mean, that's
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: doesn't that tell you something? It wasn't a name.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: That's the part that worries me. I mean like like
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the world can really wait six months. I mean like
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: right now, like you talk about fertilizers, you talk about
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the fertilizer. Now it's spring, Now it's planting season. The
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: farmers actually need those fertilizers right now, so they can't
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: plant their crops for this coming year.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: And we're going to run out of food.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: A lot of places is going to run out of
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: food if this this goes on for six months and
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: it's a it's not This is why, like even without
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: it going nuclear, if the straight oh hormos get closed
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: for you know, for another six months, man.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: This is going to be CATASTRAPHA catastrophic.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Between a recession and a depression, and global depression is probable.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Once you get above the two hundred dollars per barrel mark,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: you start to see severe disruptions. I mean, you're not alone.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I've been on Indian TV and last night was real interesting.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: The Indians were complaining, says, look, you know, America, you
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: know you're supposed to be our friend. You've tossed us
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: into the abyss. We don't have you know, fertilizer nor fuel,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: right to plant our crops. We're going to starve. And
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: the the American response is you should be down on
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: your knees thanking us because we're saving you because in
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the future something bad could happen. And this was not
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: received well by the Indian side. I mean the arrogance
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: of saying you you don't you know, you should be
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: thanking America should down on your knees. Yeah, it'll be
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: a little disruptions, but you shouldn't. You should You should
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: really just be grateful. You know your problem is you're
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: not grateful. We're the ones who are carrying the heavy bag.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, these these are quotes to what these people
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: were saying, and it was we had been exposed.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: We have we have the Deputy Secretary of the State
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: giving a speech in Deli, India, to an Indian audience
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: where he says United States.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Will not allow India to rise the way that we
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: made them. You know, we allow China. Well, I mean.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: China's rights has you know, it's not like the United
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: States made China rise. But anyway, he said, we will
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: not allow India to rise the way that China. We
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: allowed China did the mistake that we made with China.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: This is crazy, Like you are talking to people punch
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: of Indian elite in the audience in India and you said, yeah, well.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: This is official.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I as a person from the US State Department, I
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: am telling you We're not allowed.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: We will not allow you to rise.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, my god, the the ugly face of the
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: ugly American has been exposed. But the fact is the
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Indian lites, all of their children or not all, but
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I would say at least seventy eighty percent of their
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: children are in the United States. I mean that's where
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: they're going to school. Many of them have citizenships. Jay Shunker,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: his son is an American citizen. He was working at
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: a conservative think tank. He was supposedly connected to twenty
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: five Plan and then there was a hullabloo, and you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden reliance, a big Chinese Indian company
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: is set up a a think tank just for Jay shunkers.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: You don't hear much about it but the event, but
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: you know, these are the difference. You have this global
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: elite and I don't think anyone can miss the fact that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: You know, the Epstein files make it very clear. And
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: if you start looking at the the the Panama papers,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: remember that this is where they exposed all of these
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: families who are hiding their money using this law firm.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: There's a massive leak of the law firms files and
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: it just shows everybody was stashing money, all these politicians.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: You know, where did they get the money in the
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: first place? Who knows? No one's nothing was really done
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: about it. A few, you know, token people had to
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: pay some fines and things like that. No one went
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: to jail except some people who were deliberately involved in
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: fraud direct fraud. And then you have the Epstein files
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and you find all these people are connected. I mean,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I was shocked. You know, one of my great heroes
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: is this great humanitarian and it turns out but he
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: was palsy Wowsey with our friend Epstein. He was trying
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: to get a meeting with an idea logue who's not
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: going to change. I mean, I was just I was
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: stunned to see how they're connected. But I'll tell you
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: something made me do some soul searching. I was involved
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: in the politics in the US and law and investment banking.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I met a lot of people. A lot of them
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: are very unsavory. Just because they wear a suit doesn't
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: mean they're not criminals. In fact, generally they're just bigger
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: criminals than the ones you see on the street, you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: wearing thug life on the on their things. And you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I thought, well, if my name ever came up and
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: they did a search and they said, well, you knew
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: this guy and that guy and this guy. I've known
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: people who've gone to jail, and I would have happily
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: put them there. I have this kind of I would
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: serve some time in the prosecutor's office when I was
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: an intern in school, and I really liked the idea
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: of punishing people who are taking advantage of the rest
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: of society. And you know, but the more I think
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: about it, the smaller the world is at the top.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, these elites, and how easy it is to
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: just kind of go along. You go to cocktail parties
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: and there's evil people there, and you don't walk over
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: to them and slap them and try to kill them.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: You just kind of nod and say hello and move on.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: But you were at the same cocktail party, you know
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: the same people. And this is you know when I
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: said I had to reflect, I had to think, this
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: is well, the global elites have let the world down.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, you look look at the US right now.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: You have some very strange configurations. You have Marco Rubio,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: who's Hispanic, who is basically fronting for this Blood and
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Soil group, and the people who are saying immigrants are horrible, right,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: we need a white Christian America. I don't know if
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: anybody you know sat him down and made him look
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: in the mirror. You ain't white and Christian like them,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: not in their book. You know, you came from Catholic stock.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: You're the wrong kind of Christian. And you know, even
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: though you look light skinned, you aren't part of us, right.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: And then you have JD. Vance and he's tied into
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Peter Thield, Pallanteer, all of these guys, these are the
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: techno elite elites, the ones who are always trying to
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: kill your showed.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: But almost succeeded.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very interested in literally bankrupting the government so
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: that it can be privatized because they believe it'll be
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: more efficient, and in essence they will step into the
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: role of being this kind of techno nobility ruling the
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: earth on behalf of you know, stupid people who don't
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: deserve democracy. And this isn't me talking, this is what
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: they say, right, they're they're the guy named Yarvin. I mean,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: this is what he preaches. Democracy is bad, it's failed.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: It's time for the uh, the the techno lords to
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: take over. And that's on the republic inside. So you
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: have these two groups who really, you know, the Christian
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: white right also is very very connected to the military
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: industrial staff establishment and they want to keep what they have.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: And then you have the techno lords and they want
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: they want a piece of that, you know, soon to
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: be one point five brillion.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, I understand the griff, you know
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: how the American system is set up for that. But guys,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you don't need to blow up the world for it.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: You don't need to close the straight or horror moves.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's very simple thing not to do. This
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: is something you don't have to do. They chose to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: They're so insulated. This is what I'm trying to say.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: They're so insulated. They sit around and talk to each
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: other and they think that they're in the bubble. And
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: that's on one side. They those two want to make
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: the government small enough they can control it, but in
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: different ways. Military industrial complex just want to sell bombs,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: need to have lots of wars. The techno guys just
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: want to reduce the government to bankruptcy so they can
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: take it over. But then you have the Democrats. And
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: you'll notice that there are a number of Democrats who
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: you know, and you could tell who was going to
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: vote in which direction depending on how much money they
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: got from APEC, the Jewish lobby. Okay, so I mean
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: it's just straight down the line. You see, Oh you
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: got that? Oh you yes, it didn't matter about the party.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: It mattered about what you're getting from APEC. So, but
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: they represent the corporate interests. The corporate interests want the
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: old US back, you know, the colonial idea where we
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: kind of sit on top of things. We control countries.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Every year or so we take some poor country and
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: throw it against the wall to show everybody else that
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: if you go against us, you know, bad things are
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: going to happen. But we need markets, we need places
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: to sell stuff. And these are the big traditional businesses,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Coca Cola and all the aud They don't they don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: want global war. They just want to be dominant and
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: be able to sell their stuff. So you have these
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: three groups, what do they have in common. They don't
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: give a damn about the common person. They don't care anything.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: These are just cannon fodder for their little swabbles of
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: how they can make more money for their own interests.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately, I'd have to say that that's true in
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: most of the areas in the world.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I understand that, I understand that, you know,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: this US is just a bunch of clicked if oligar
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: key's fighting for jostling for power.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: But man, you don't have to close down the strata
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: hor moose. It's this is a war of choice.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: That The thing is what I'm what I'm really afraid
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: of right now, is this is going to tear out
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to be like Vietnam, because this is how exactly how
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Vietnam War got started. The first they said military advisors,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and then they sending like a few thousand marines to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: do on air to secure the airport, and yet very
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: very small go right, and then a few years later,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: half million American ground troops are in Vietnam because and
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and all this whole time peace through and the whole
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: time Pentagon knew, they knew the win war.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Was not winnable.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: They knew this is going to be a war of
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: attrition that they're going to be bogged on. Yet nobody
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: just have the political will to say, okay, let's just
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: cut the losses, let's just let's just stop.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Who's going to have the political will to say, gee, whiz,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: we're a bunch of idiots. We killed millions of people,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: we displaced them, We've ruined their country, and we should
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: never have been there. Right. How many leaders do you
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: do you see coming forward with that kind of vision,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: coming from outside the system, not inside the system.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: They least say that about like the war that happened
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the past, you know, like ten years, ten years in
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the past.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now there was.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Things before I came. Now I do really stupid things.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: That's that's basically what Trump said. It's like, oh that
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: war Ukraine, that was Biden. That was Biden's war. But
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: now he has his own war.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: All the things I said about Iraq and how terrible
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: it was, and you know how that was the stupidest
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: war in the world, and how Afghanistan was a complete
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: you know cluster. Yeah, say nothing yet, Yeah, I'm going
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: to do one ten ten times better. No, he he
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: understands that this this war is unpopular. His basis is
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: going against him. He's lost the independence. You cannot win
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: an election, even mid term elections. It's the independence who
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: turn against you because you made false promises and they say,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: we let the next guy group in. Right or wrong,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: there's going to be a mass of swing. Even despite
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: all the attempts to jerry mander. You're already seeing the
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: United States Democrats winning in solid red states, solid Republican states,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: and you see but Democrats winning that's unheard of.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: But but but but but in the Democrats so far,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: they decide to be silent on this war. You know,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: there's very little and you wore opposition right now, like.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Like where are the We don't have the kind of the.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Vietnam War era anti war movement in the US right now,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and like like.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: That came from a few people, and you do you know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: you have old socialist warriors, like what's his name, the
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: guy from Maine, no, New Hampshire, he's he you know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: he's come out and said this is stupidous war. Ever,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: you know, why are we doing this? You know, all
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: this type of stuff. He's the only one making sense.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: But you, Carl, you want to know how people vote.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Look how much more they got from Apex. Yeah, there's
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: there's so many on the Democratic side, and those are
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: the ones who are just using this as political attacks
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: on Trump. But they're not. They're just sitting back and saying, yeah,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: this is good, good for Israel. I represent Israel.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I think, yeah, that's that's that's that's really unfortunate.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Cruise, right you saw Ted Cruz, I wanted to be
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: the best senator for Israel.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the sad thing like that right now,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the anti war voices, it is coming from the likes
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: of Marjorie Greens and.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: Packer Carlson right now, while the Democrats' yes, yes, yeah, well.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: It's it's a strong thing. You get isolationists and things
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: like that. But you know, there's they're saying the right things.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with either one the other one
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: of them on a number of their views, but on
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: this they're absolutely one hundred percent right. No, no one
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: in America wants a war. We had are filled. We
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: we we have massive amounts of debt. You know, wounded
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: vets who live on the streets because they have PSD
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: d T and we don't take care of them. Uh,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: the scars are there.
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  Speaker 1: We know, every every American president since George W.
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  Speaker 2: Bush got elected promising peace. George W.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Bush was a non intervention It rang on non interventionist platform.
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  Speaker 2: Yet every fricking one.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Of them after the get in office all goes back
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: on their problems all you know, continue as the perpetual war.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, the system is broken. The system is broken, but.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: So but understanding some of the karf When when you
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: become president, it's you know, you think you think you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: know something. If you're a senator or a governor or
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: something like that, you get some briefings and things like
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: this when you become president. The first day you're there,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: or even before you start to get these briefings, the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: CIA comes in, they're surrected by you know, enough brass
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: to you know, build a cannon. You know. All these
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: guys were things and they come at you one after
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: another and they start explaining, mister President, there are some
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: serious matters that need your attention. You need to know
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: that we have credible threats. And here, there, there, there,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: there there and everywhere else. And you get this on
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: a daily basis. Remember Obama. Obama came in. He says,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: I don't trust these guys, you know, but he had
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: no foreign policy experience, and all of a sudden he's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: he's out there creating wars.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: As well and and funerals.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm telling you it's just Carl. If you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: were in the room, these are very serious, intelligent people.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Don't believe this cardboard cutouts of people like Pete Headset.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: They would never be allowed in the office, all right.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: He was drummed out because here's a drunk and a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: flanderer and the no use. The people who come in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: there are very intelligent, they have master's PhDs. These are
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: very but they have this particular mindset. It's like if
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: you go to a surgeon, right, a chess cutter. He's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: always going to tell you we need to operate. Right.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: If you go to an internist, right, they'll say, well,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: maybe we can solve this with medicine. Okay, whatever your
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: specialty is. Of course you go to that because you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: don't know the other. Right. So for the military, they're
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: always seeing things as threats, and day after day, the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: first thing you do is you get your briefing in
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: the morning, and it can wear you down. These people
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: are coming at you consistently. You form relationships with them, right,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: you start to say, well, Bob, give me straight on this.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: What are we really looking at? Because you, as president,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: you don't have enough time to actually figure out whether
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: these threats are credible or not. You know, you look
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: at these guys. These guys are very very credible. And
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're lying to you. I'm saying is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: that it's the information is push it comes up. The
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: information you get as president, all right, has been assembled
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: by a whole pyramid, and each level they simplify it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: But when they simplify it, they put bias on it,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: their own bias, and this is leaks all the way up.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: So that's just.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: What this is what I'm afraid of because if you
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: look at the Vietnam War era leadership, there were the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: whiz kids Macnamara, These are supposed to be the geniuses,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and these guys all know you know, they knew it
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: was a big, big mistake. Yet they still went plow
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a headlong into the Vietnam War.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: They thought, one more push, one more push, and we'll
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: be over the top. We'll get what this is to get.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: This is what we're doing right now. This is what
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: US is doing right now.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Why are they're sending twenty marines to to freaking try
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: to seize the island?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: What what are they going to do? This island is
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: just off the coast. It can be bombarded by Iran. Right,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: twenty five hundred marines are not going to be able
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: to hold an island in the middle of you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: enemy territory.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, but that will just be their
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: excuse to send to commit more resources.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, right now, right now, the surge remember the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: surge in Afghanistan also, right, we need surge. Yes, We've
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: determined that with the with the right if you have
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: the stomach for it, we can achieve victory. Our military
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: is great and winning battles. We suck at winning wars.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: We just have not won any wars lately excepted against Granada,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: and that they didn't want anyone standing up against this.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Accept a bunch of work road crews from.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Cuba PanAm well.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: US also won against Panama in the nineteen ninety.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, you can pressure them. They're always going to roll over.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: They do, they have any choice. And now you know,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: and he's already you know. What I'm hoping is that
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: he thinks that he can move aside, and I don't.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think he can get away from it. I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: know that his next version is, of course Cuba. He
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: set it up even before in Ukraine he did something unprecedented.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: He named Cuba uh and said, okay, it's a malign
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: actor in this area. No, Cuba is a problem, he said,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: and it's backed by China and Russia as malne actors. Well,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: this is significant because even during the Cold War, neither
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Russia nor China were called out in a in a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: white paper, right, no, no policy paper named them directly.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: So he's really over the top. And you can tell
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: that his his his staff, they don't know what they're doing.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: They have no sense of history, no sense of what's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: going on, but it's un personally. It doesn't matter what
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: we do. Ask me if I think there's a solution,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: because I do.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: What is a solution? I like to hear it.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: So the solution is that there's no there's no trust
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: between Iran and the US. US negotiated twice times and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: two times, and both before the negotiations are and they
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: attacked around, so that that's kind of out the door.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: If you don't have them, you have to have other players.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I think bricks. And finally, I think India realizes that
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: if sure, it can continue to vacillate back and forth
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: between this desire to go back to Daddy Trump and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: have him say, oh, you're my wonder child, I love
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Eumodi and things like that, or they're going to have
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: to grow a spine and say, if we don't do something,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: our people are going to starve and we're going to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: be pushed out of government, because that's what's going to
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: happen when food goes down. Governments change, and not in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: a pretty way. People are going to go to the streets.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: So what is the solution? I think the bricks and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: hopefully the UN will come together and it's just not
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: the five bricks. I mean the bricks as are told them,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: and they come together and they say, look, we will
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: convene and we will be the guarantee of tourist of
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: this and the US you have to do X, Y
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: and Z and if you don't do that, and this
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: goes back to our previous conversations, we intend to start
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: sanctioning the United States in Israel. There has to be
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: a line drawn otherwise, why would why would Iran give in?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: They know that they're continuing to hurt the United States
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: even if they're hurting their neighbors. I mean I was
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: talking to somebody from well, somebody, a bunch of people
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: from the midd least because of id Mabarak. To those
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: out there, I feel bad because the times this is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: it should be a time of celebration, but it isn't.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: So yeah, So, I mean, their economies are destroyed. They
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: put trillions of dollars into you know, as we were
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: talking about before, trying to make the Middle East a
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: place of doing business and living and things like this,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out a post oil economy, and now
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: basically I don't know how long it would take to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: resurrect any kind of things, because the Iranians are not
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: going to forget what's happened to them. And even if
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: they agree to a peace with the United States, there's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: still going to be radicals who are going to say, look,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to abide my time, or I'm going
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: to go underground and I'm going to get my revenge.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: So you know, the US Israel commits the same historical
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: mistakes over and over again. They think that by beating
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: somebody bloody that they've solved the problem. Like in Gaza,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: all those kids who survive have no parents. I mean,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: they've seen war. You know, what are the chances they
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: won't be radicalized? And this is this is happening. Who's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: taking care of that process. Who is going to reach
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: out to these children to make sure that they think
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: of life in a different way. They won't. They're going
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: to be without parents, without support, and you know, in
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: essence made sure that the instead of having thirty to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: forty thousand hamas in the future, you're going to have
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: three hundred to four hundred thousand. And this is the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: sad tragedy. It's just continuing downward spiral where everyone thinks
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: that force is going to take care of things, and
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: it doesn't.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing. I could be completely wrong in this,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: but I did observe. So there were two pipelines that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: was built to bypass the street or moose. There was
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: one in UAE and there's one in Saudi Arabia. Now
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you're wrong, has been very to shut down the UAE pipeline.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: They've been attacking the UAE terminal on the other side
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: of the Strait of Hormuz. So but so far Youuran
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: hasn't touched the Saudi pipeline yet. So right now, Saudi
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: is still using their backup pipeline to pipe their oil
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: from their east coast, which is the Persian Gulf, to
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the west coast in Red Sea. And now there are
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of oil tankers are now sailing in the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Red Sea. And so far and so far yet Many's
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: has not joined the war to close down the straight Uh,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: to close down the Red Sea route. Yet I'm hoping,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping this is because you know, China had sent
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: its special.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Envoy to the Middle East to meet with both the GCC.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: And Youran, and I hope like that was there was
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: some deal worked out where Ian is holding off again.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: It's attacking the Saudi backup pipeline.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: This is mild, okay, let's let's hope. But the fact
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: is that the there was an attack on the one
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: of the largest Saudi oil complexes last night, yesterday or
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: how many era there goes hard because of the difference
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: in time, and it was fairly serious. The Saudi said, look,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: we're going to have to retaliate. Saudi has a problem
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: because they do have a significant number of people of
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: of Shia there and they're you know, they're completely behind Iran.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: They're they're outrage one of their religious leaders was killed.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: They see this as you know, solidarity. They're saying, well,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: they're attacking they're not attacking us, they're attacking the US
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: and things like that. So they have internal issues in
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: terms of the pipeline. Just keep in mind that there's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: not enough capacity in that pipeline. And theoretically they can
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: get it up to seven million barrels a day, but
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: right now it's kind of in that five million. But
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: it was pumping before. It's not like, oh it's empty,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: now we can use it. And how about they was
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: already pumping oil out that that direction, and so was
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: UAE there, but there are a lot less. I think
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: I rolled on one point five million barrels, so the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: capacity there is not enough to dress to address the
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: underlying thing, which is twenty one million barrels a day.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: And you can cut it down, you can say that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: the demand will diminish because the price goes up, but
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: you're still going to be left with something around, you know,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: anywhere between nine and fifteen million barrels a day deficit
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: and energy. I can't say I'm going to put rocks
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: into my my my jet and try to fly it
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: on rocks, right. It doesn't.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Or rocks in your in your field right to grow
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: the rocks.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, no, you can't replace it. This is a problem.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: And that that was the way the world was set up.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: It was just in time delivery, I mean. And it's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: it's fuel prices, everything is. And this is why it
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: is so serious. And I completely agree with you. But
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: the level of stupidity and selfishness that's being displayed by
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: the global elites refusing to come together when they know
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: this is going to be a global catastrophe. I was
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: talking to somebody at a fund, one of the bigger
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: funds in the world, and he said, well, you know,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: have you explained the situation to him? The economists said,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I did. He said, well what was the response? They said, well,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: how do we make money off this? Can you imagine
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: the world is collapsing and they're trying to figure out
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: how they can make their bonuses bigger, right, They just
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: see this as a game. They're just they're going to
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: undercut the market themselves. They're going to get involved in
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: you know, the financial borrow money, great leverage, so they
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: can even make more money on the bets that they're
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: going to make. And this this is exactly you know,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: what's going on and what is supposed to be our
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: capital marks. These supposed to be responsible people, level headed
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: people who are concerned about you know, the industry and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: how the economy works and things like that. No, they're
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: just a bunch of kids with degrees who are figuring
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: out how they can make a bigger bonus this year,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: and the world the hell with it. There's not even
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: one sentilla of care about the rest of these people.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: And they think they're just really slick and smart. They
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: think this is, you know, oh great opportunity. Opportunity knocks.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Let's let's let's really get rich here. And you have
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: the arm sellers, they're happy. You know, you just had
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: an eighteen billion dollar arms order from the Middle East.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: The question is, you know, when we're talking to somebody,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I said, you expect that order to be filled. We
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: can't give enough rockets to to Israel, who are always
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: going to come before you. We don't have enough rockets ourselves.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: You know, we already blew a lot of that stuff
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: into Ukraine, right, so we don't have it. And the
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: production facilities in the US aren't ramped up now to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: provide all of this stuff. And Trump had a very
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: contentious meeting with the arms the arms manufactured Group and says, hey,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: golden opportunity, get your ass in gear. And they're like, well,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: it's not the way it works, mister President. You know,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: you don't build a factory in two weeks. And he's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: just like, what's wrong with you? You know, this is time
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: to make money. So, I mean, but these are the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: types of things that are going on. I mean might Meanwhile,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: you know, the largest kleptocratcy in America is being perpetuated
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: by the president and his family. His son apparently bought
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: a company for he put a couple of one hundred
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: million into it. It's now worth two billion. And it
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: was all related to the war. It was a drone
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: company and you know, and they're handing out, you know,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: contracts to themselves. You saw on TV Christine No, she
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: gave a contract to her assistant's husband, who has a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: company that's been in existence for a whole eleven days.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Do they know anything? No bid contract one hundred and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: thirty you know, one hundred and thirty four millions. I mean,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: you couldn't make this stuff up. I mean, the scale of.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: It, this kind of stuff was all going out doing
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: the Iraq War, by the way, you know, like the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: story I heard about.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: That that that you're talking about. You know, you had
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Dick Cheney who's patting things for Halliburton and the old
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: crew and the boy did he take care of him.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: But then afterwards they caught these guys red handed. They
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: were they were stealing money from the food budget. There
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: was you know, just everything was missing, huge wads of cash.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Uh you know, did anyone actually end up paying for it?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Only the American public. So they caught them red handed
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: and nothing happened. They paid a fine. I think some
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: of them went out of business and things like that.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: I got of the guy. I kind of wonder, where's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Eric Prince? He was, I say, the Prince of darkness?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: Where's he these days? I mean he was always, you know,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: he always had some new new wonderkin thing involving getting
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: ex soldiers to be mercenaries to go around and remember.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: He that might be next.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: That might be next for war.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: You know, after after the twenty five hundred marine failed,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: you know, holding the island in the person Gulf.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: That might be next.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: That's that's what might be when Eric Prince comes in
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: with his private military contractors, you know, the black Water.
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  Speaker 3: The problem the problem with that is they did that
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  Speaker 3: in Afghanistan. Didn't work right, They were paying out all
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  Speaker 3: this money.
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  Speaker 1: But well he did it didn't work for the military
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  Speaker 1: contractors they got paid.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know they And there were there were tons
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  Speaker 3: of movies about it, you know. You know it's a
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  Speaker 3: regular grunts or who were earning, you know, at peanuts.
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  Speaker 3: And then the military contractors are riding around in bulletproof
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  Speaker 3: SUVs with all the gear and all the good stuff
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  Speaker 3: and being paid thirty thousand dollars a month for their expertise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I mean really what it comes down
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  Speaker 3: to is the the the uncarrying attitudes of the elite.
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  Speaker 3: They have become too far removed from the people. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't understand that. You know, people are going
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: to are why are you doing this? Why? Why is it? Well,
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  Speaker 3: there are groups that do care, the middle the Middle Powers,
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  Speaker 3: they do care. India cares because they're going to get
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: hit hard. Indonesia cares, Malaysia care cares. Okay, Brazil cares,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: and these these are hefty sized countries. Europe has to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: care because they're going to get really hit hard. They
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  Speaker 3: don't have reserves.
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  Speaker 1: Europe have been screwed left and right by the US policies.
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  Speaker 3: They want to go, I will do daddy. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's still apologizing for America and say we just need
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  Speaker 3: to stick with the USS. I mean, he's pathetic. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I I put it down to Stockholm syndrome or something
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: like this, But these are it's getting on beyond the politics, uh,
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  Speaker 3: to the extent that these politicians will realize that the
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  Speaker 3: real chance of regime change, you know, not maybe violent
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: in some cases, but I think mostly the voters will
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  Speaker 3: just say you've screwed up, get out all right, But
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  Speaker 3: what alternatives you have?
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  Speaker 2: I mean Torris versus r Yeah, Einar. The election is
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  Speaker 2: in November.
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  Speaker 1: We still have freaking nine months to go well, I
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  Speaker 1: mean like well eight month, eight month. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the war has eight months to wait for the straight
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  Speaker 1: o hor Most to be open again.
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  Speaker 2: This is crazy, man.
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  Speaker 3: Look I would I love it, but how do you
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  Speaker 3: resolve it? I mean, this is up to Iran. There's
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  Speaker 3: no one to talk to in Iran. Why because we
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: keep killing everybody who we could talk to. And they
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: have this mosaic thing where these commanders are hold up
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: wherever they are, and they're just sitting there. They're doing
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: their own thing, and they're not taking phone calls. You know,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: you'll notice that we were somehow able to locate all
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: of the leaders, right, and we were somehow able to
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: do the same thing to Hamas and has Belah and
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: so many other areas. We always seem to know where
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: they are. I'm going to say confident, confidently that those
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: people who are out there on the fringes hold up
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: aren't taking phone calls. They might be watching TV or
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: listening to the radio, but they're not taking phone calls,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: so there's not a command structure in place to say stop.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: That's why you had the Iranian Ambassador of the UN saying, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're not targeting you know, are our neighbors, you know, civilians.
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  Speaker 3: We wouldn't do that. Well yeah, he wouldn't, but he
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  Speaker 3: isn't in charge. No one is in charge. You have
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: IRGC members who are pissed off because you know, the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: US has done what they always feared. They've killed their leader.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Not only their leader, but they're spiritual leader. And they're
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  Speaker 3: just operating on themselves. I mean, you remember that movie
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Doctor Strangelove, how I Came to Love the bomb? Well,
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  Speaker 3: just imagine the crazy military commander, except you have a
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: thousand of these spread out all over the country and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: there's no line of communication. So you know they're not
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: going to pick up the phone because if they do,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: boom right. So I literally we created a bad situation.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: It's very hard to see how you put the genie
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: in the button. But if on the television, it's clear
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: that you have a mandate from the Middle powers, who
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: around trust around trust Russia in China much more than
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: the US and Israel, you know what I mean? And
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: Brazil and the bricks come together. They're part of bricks.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: They come together and say, hey, listen, you know, if
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: the US doesn't accept these these things, all right, we're
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: going to take action against them, right and at that point,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: you know, the taco will come into effect. Trump always
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: chickens out when I hope that comes question, when are
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  Speaker 3: they going to come together? I mean the I I
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  Speaker 3: said the other night, I said, look, you know, you
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: guys are complaining about the war. You know what's happening,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: all right, but what are you doing about it? Uh
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  Speaker 3: saying the US is uncaring? Oh well, that really hurts
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: their feelings. No it didn't. It results resort. It resulted
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: in some guys saying that you should be on your
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: knees thanking me for you know, doing you huge favor,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: and don't don't bother me about this Poli stuff about
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: how many people are going to die because I don't care.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: That was basically his whole thing. I mean, it was
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: so ugly, it was unbelievable. But this is the thing.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: But you can't sit there and complain. You have to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: take action. The only action is available to the world
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: today is if the Middle Powers come together and they say, hey,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: enough of this. We're all going to suffer unless we
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: do this. At that point, the only thing that Trump
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: recognizes is of course a greater power, because he's a bully.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: So you have to be the bigger bully and you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: just say, look, this is what is going to cost you.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: We're going to stop all trade with the US. Your
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: economy is going to go on. You're going to go
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: down as the worst president of the world, and you
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: will not have your face on Mount Rushmore. You might
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: be pounding rocks on Mount Rushmore. The thing, but here's
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: the terrible thing. In order to do this, the probability
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: is that you have to create off ramps for two
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: criminals that Yahoo and Trump and his family, both of
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: them will want to take a certain amount of a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: part of their wealth and go somewhere where they won't
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: be immediately killed or prosecuted. Because these are two people
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: who are really facing a tremendous amount of of exposure
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: for what they've done. So you have a very complex situation.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: To be the adult in the room, you have to
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: gather the people together and say, let's be realistic. We're
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: not gonna punish the US. It's nuclear, but we have
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: to separate the personal issues of these true criminals from
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: the national, the national and global issues that we have
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: to settle.
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  Speaker 1: I just I just don't see how United States would
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: ever swallow its pride.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: And and and and and you know, just walk away
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: because what you're wrong for you wrong to stop this war.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: This is the war of of survival for your own
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: they're fighting existential war. So they they would, you know,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: for you wrong to come to peace, they would want
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: guarantee of first of you wrong's uh integrity there their
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: government's integrity.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: They they they would.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Want some kind of US we draw long West Asia
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: because that's that's that's that's a minimum their requirement. They
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: will also demand reparation. I just don't see US ever
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: agree to those terms because it's even though US.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Could do it, but no, we just do it.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: No, No, Carl, we did do it. We didn't call
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: reparations what we said we give aid. And that's that's
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: how certain things have been settled in the past. Yeah,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: I agree, it's never going to be reparations, but if
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: aid can be done, sometimes it can be washed through
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: the U N or whatever whatever the price of peace.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: But the issue is what is the price of not
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: making peace. And this is what's something the world has
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: to wake up to. You're acutely aware of it, Carl, Right,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: you know this is absolutely insane. No one is going
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: to benefit from this, even if people say, oh, well,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: Russia will benefit because they'll sell more oil, but the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: global economy will go down. Right, this is not good
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: for anybody. So it's time for the powers that be
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: to be adults in the room, come together and just
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: tell the little tantrum boys that look it's over. We're
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: not gonna we're not gonna stomach this anymore.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Well, Uh, I always tend to be the glasses half
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: full type of guys. So I think at least all
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: we can take away from this is the world order
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: will never be the same. We will never return to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: like the pre war order of doing things. I mean,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: like the US will going to have to accept time
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: have changed. US can no longer throw its military weight
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: around and uh, you know force other countries to their knees.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: That that's not how how things will work. People can retaliate,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: and can retaliate in such a way that even United
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: States will feel the hurt. So let's its best to
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: just sit down and be reasonable to just be acting like.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: Look for fighting words Donald Trump and reasonable. I'm just
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: trying to put those two concepts together. Just I don't know.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: I can't quite make the connection. Maybe you can help
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: me here, when has he ever been reasonable?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: That happy?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: Note?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I I'm trying to I'm trying to end, and
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: they show on a more positive I'll look here.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Well, No, I do think it is possible. What I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: said is it's it's you have to arrange the off ramp.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: For Donald Trump, it's it's personal. If he thinks he's
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: going to jail, he's going to try to take us.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: He wants a way out. Same with Natan Yahoo. So
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: I do think that can be arranged. They don't get punished.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: They should be punished. But you know, in the grand
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: scheme of things, if we get peace and people can eat,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: I'd rather I prefer that those two criminals live out
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: their life, however, rather than have you know, one hundred
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: thousand people starve to death. This is These are the
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: choices you have to make sometimes when you're in power.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Your words to God's years.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you know, I hope you're you're
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: you're right, And on that note, Thank you very much,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: ein R.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: For making your time to speak to us. I always
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: learned something from you.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: Very little, I'm sure, But anyway, Carl, I'm honored that
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: you're having on the show, especially after being threatened by
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: the powers that be. I still don't understand why they
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: apparently you were one of many shows.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm I'm finally important, you know, for them to care,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: you know, this is I don't know, You've.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: Always been important, but the issue is, you know, you know,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: I what I was concerned about is that this is
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: just the tip of the iceberg that they're going to
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: start going, you know, through the lists and you know, well,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: we can't have this one. Oh you know, we'll put
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: the old AI on there. If there were they're using
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: words we don't like their out That's that's the price
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: of free speech.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a high probability, you know, there
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: was the AI that first first remove my channel in
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the first place.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks to everyone, Thanks everyone for listening. I had
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: a great time listening to professor Uh.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Thank in here.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: If you want to reach you, people want to like, well,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: you know, get more of your wisdom.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Where would they go? Well, there's very little of that.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm on fourteen shows a week, so I'm
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: not shy, but it's mostly Global South, sometimes Bloomberg and
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, but it's mostly like Al Jazeera c GTN,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: which is the Chinese English nation. But I'm on fifty
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: different channels, so if you're unlucky, you run into me.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: I do have a sub stack Asian Narratives, Asia Narratives substack,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: and I do put something in a couple of times
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: a week, just more thoughts along what we talked about.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: But really it's not necessarily that you read what I do.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: I just hope that you can convince those who are
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: in a position to do something that the rational approach
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: is come together collectively as a world multilateral world has
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: two choices. You come together and you say that we're
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: going to make the pie bigger and we're going to cooperate,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: or you can, you know, just break up in the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: little pieces and go to war with each other. I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: think this is the first one, is the best one.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: So I wish everyone good heart, good luck, and may
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: are leaders make the right choice
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  Speaker 1: And eyeat b bark everyone for people, Thank you ladies,
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  Speaker 1: and einart tanng in, Ladies and gentlemen, and H until
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: next time. M.