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Episode 338: 'Visitation' (SG-U 2.09) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Can you hear this?
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  Speaker 2: Kick and chase by Mullins!
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  Speaker 1: Kick and chase again by Mullins! This'll be a miracle!
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it is a miracle!
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  Speaker 1: Has Jacob even seen it? You've got to see it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a f * * * ing miracle.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the best thing. He's been to a Broncos game,
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  Speaker 2: but only live, so he's never heard Australian commentary for
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  Speaker 2: a football game.
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  Speaker 3: Even if you had heard Australian commentary, you wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: heard it like that. That guy's retired now. I thought
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  Speaker 3: you were going to say retired.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there is an element of that because
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  Speaker 2: if you took that verbiage and put it into like
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  Speaker 2: a Trump accent, it'd be like, you've never seen anything
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  Speaker 2: like it. That's maybe the greatest.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the greatest.
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  Speaker 2: You'll never see it again. Mullins, what a great guy.
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  Speaker 2: What a great fullback.
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  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: I checked out his ass. It's tight.
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  Speaker 3: Get into Gates. Yes, mate.
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  Speaker 5: No, I was just going to say it would be
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  Speaker 5: like thinking about I don't know why I was thinking
• 1:01
  Speaker 5: about this, and it's kind of mean. I was thinking
• 1:03
  Speaker 5: about the Citizen Joe clip where Joe's wife is just like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the team interaction just isn't what it used
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  Speaker 5: to be.
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  Speaker 3: Get into gate. This delay is going to be good.
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: Get into Gate episode 338 minutes, if you don't mind.
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: We're talking some SGU.
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  Speaker 1: See yourself out.
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  Speaker 3: It's early, too. I'm very sorry. It's a Stargate reference.
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  Speaker 3: It's so foreign to you. Is it a that's one
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  Speaker 3: for me?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, did all those Rabs clips make the opening, or.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And just in case, if you're tuning in late
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  Speaker 3: to a podcast, we'll play them again at the end.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I did it to myself.
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  Speaker 1: Kick and chase by Mullins.
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  Speaker 2: Kick and chase again by Mullins. This will be a miracle.
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, it is a miracle.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 4: You won't see anything like that again this year.
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  Speaker 2: You won't see anything like that again. Maybe never.
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  Speaker 3: That's Matty. Hi, Matty.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: And Brendan.
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  Speaker 4: G'day, mate.
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  Speaker 3: Pots and pans. More mullins, please. We're not just a
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  Speaker 3: little threesome as we are each and every other time
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  Speaker 3: we come and visit Matty's sex dungeon. We've called in
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of extra help.
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  Speaker 1: That midget in the corner.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, friend. We've ordered online from overseas our LA correspondent.
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  Speaker 1: Tap, tap, tap.
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  Speaker 2: Are you live?
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  Speaker 3: Are you with us, Jacob?
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  Speaker 5: Coming live from Tinseltown is Jacob. Hello, thank you for
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  Speaker 5: having me, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense that we've got you on, because
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: for the longest time now... Actually, can you clear something up?
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  Speaker 3: Was SGU your first Stargate, or is SGU your favorite Stargate?
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  Speaker 5: It is neither, and I would rather you stop saying
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  Speaker 5: it's my favorite. I don't know where you made that up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Made that up?
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  Speaker 1: That's Matty there.
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  Speaker 2: Made that up.
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  Speaker 1: Classic, he makes up facts all the time.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: Made that invited... Invited....
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  Speaker 5: Listen, I probably said that at some point, but.
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: That was a recency bias.
• 3:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't even remember what I had for
• 3:24
  Speaker 5: breakfast this morning. So I don't remember what I said
• 3:28
  Speaker 5: about this podcast or about the show. You know, here's
• 3:32
  Speaker 5: the thing. There are elements of this show that grab
• 3:38
  Speaker 5: me and make me much more engaged than the other
• 3:43
  Speaker 5: two because it feels like much more of a modern show.
• 3:46
  Speaker 5: I think when I first watched it after everyone saying, oh,
• 3:48
  Speaker 5: this show is terrible. It's like the worst. And then
• 3:52
  Speaker 5: I watch it and I'm like, you know, engaged from
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  Speaker 5: episode one. I'm like, wow, this is sick. I think
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  Speaker 5: that made me like so much more excited about it.
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  Speaker 5: So that might be why I might've said that, but
• 4:04
  Speaker 5: having sat with it for a while and then we
• 4:08
  Speaker 5: might get to this later, but you know, some of
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  Speaker 5: these episodes are, fairly dull on a rewatch just cause
• 4:15
  Speaker 5: they are so very slow and you know, it's a
• 4:17
  Speaker 5: slow build. There's just nothing like the magic of SG
• 4:22
  Speaker 5: one like that will always be my favorite. It's just
• 4:25
  Speaker 5: that this one grabbed me in such an unexpected way.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't help, but you know, be attached to that.
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  Speaker 2: However, however, when getting L into Stargate, you did choose
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: to lead with universe.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's my confusion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I did show it to her first, just
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  Speaker 5: because it's only two seasons, it's a modern show, and
• 4:45
  Speaker 5: then I was like, well, if you enjoy this a
• 4:47
  Speaker 5: little bit, have I got a show for you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they should agree with you in terms
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: of the style of this show compared to SG-1, and
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: I was just watching season 9 of SG-1 with my
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  Speaker 4: son Jack, and we just... It's strange because they've got
• 5:02
  Speaker 4: the high-def cameras, but they're still shooting in that 90s style.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like at that point, they should have gone
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  Speaker 4: to this new style, like transitioned SG-1 from that Stargate
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  Speaker 4: Command new style and also changed Atlantis at the same
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  Speaker 4: time to what Universe is.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would have made it better.
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  Speaker 5: Universe is pretty dated at some point. It's like they
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  Speaker 5: really did... If you watch a movie from 2005... they
• 5:29
  Speaker 5: were hardcore on the tight shots that are just whip
• 5:33
  Speaker 5: pans and handheld. Matty, you're going to love this. Watching
• 5:37
  Speaker 5: Batman Begins versus The Dark Knight. Batman Begins is like, oh,
• 5:41
  Speaker 5: calm down with the camera work.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't... I only watched that recently. Now you've got
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: me casting my mind back to.
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: Mitch is doing another Nolan trilogy.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: Tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't actually got to the second one yet. We hit
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  Speaker 3: a pause. But, yeah, it was, I guess, around that
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  Speaker 3: time where they started just, I guess, you know, your
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  Speaker 3: born supremacy that sort of changed how action scenes were
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  Speaker 3: shot from that point on. That was, what, 2004.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and this is so heavily influenced by the Battlestar
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: Galactica reboot. And then even more recently with the new
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: Scrubs reboot that came out there and they're season two
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  Speaker 2: at the moment. And I saw a little clip of
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: Zach Braff, who's kind of the, he's the sort of
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: main showrunner for it. And he was saying, because now
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: they're not shooting on 16mm film anymore like they did
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: with the original show. And during season one, a lot
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: of the fan was sort of like, oh, it doesn't
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: look right. Like you're back in the same hospital. It's
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: the same characters 20 years later, but it just looks
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: too clean and too, it just looks too digital. And
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: apparently in season two, they've been slowly just sort of
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  Speaker 2: shifting a little bit. And he's been working with like,
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  Speaker 2: the editors and the colour correctors and all that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, and just trying to give it that more old-school, like, 16mm.
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  Speaker 1: Vibe look for the.
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  Speaker 2: Hospital, which I thought was really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Do they shoot in the same sort of style? Like,
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  Speaker 3: if it wasn't the look... Yes, it's still very... It
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  Speaker 3: feels like the original show.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the problem with SG-1, season 9 and 10. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They did the same thing. It just looks weird.
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  Speaker 5: And the digital cameras were crap back then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think now it doesn't matter, but back then. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't change their lighting or anything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I remember, um, an audio commentary from like
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  Speaker 2: season seven or season eight. And that, cause that was
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  Speaker 2: when they started originally filming with the digital cameras. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they said it was a big learning curve because there's
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  Speaker 2: some shots that, you know, we've talked about it before, Mitch,
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: what's that thing, the standard setting on the TVs, the
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: motion control or whatever it is?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the blur.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was on, like, some of the panning shots they
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: had and stuff like that in, like, season seven or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. I think it might have been Will
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  Speaker 2: Waring or Andy McKee talking about how it was a
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  Speaker 2: real big learning curve for them in one season to
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  Speaker 2: shift the way. And, yeah, I just, like Brendan said,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they shifted enough.
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  Speaker 3: I see Tom Cruise there. He kept putting out those
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  Speaker 3: things going, hey, turn on your TV. Turn off motion blur.
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  Speaker 3: It's what us is filming. Okay, I will, Tom Cruise.
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  Speaker 5: Sure. People give me a lot of shit for starting
• 8:11
  Speaker 5: Elle with SGU, but I will maintain that that's not
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  Speaker 5: the worst decision ever made regarding Stargate viewing order. I
• 8:18
  Speaker 5: remember a post on the Stargate Facebook group years and
• 8:21
  Speaker 5: years ago where someone's like, my mom got me into
• 8:23
  Speaker 5: Stargate by starting me on this movie called Arc of Truth.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Think about that for a second.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been worse.
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  Speaker 2: You could have started her on like Stargate infinity. Imagine that.
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  Speaker 5: Imagine if you watch that and you actually like it
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, Oh, I want to watch more of that.
• 8:43
  Speaker 5: Where's more. There's like this more franchise, like. yeah and
• 8:45
  Speaker 5: then none of it is anything like it's all it's
• 8:48
  Speaker 5: all live action.
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: When are these cool gonna get out of here and
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: bring on the all right yeah but buddy you've got
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: a long wait and then you're gonna be disappointed because
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: they're nowhere near as cool as these guys.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: Uh speaking of the motion blur though um when i
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: was doing the um making it so podcast with craig
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: we were doing all the picard and star trek stuff
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: we go i'd go into his place we literally watched
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  Speaker 2: the episode and then sit at his dining room table
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  Speaker 2: and record the episode. He doesn't have the motion blur
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  Speaker 2: turned off. So like you'd be watching a brand new
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  Speaker 2: episode of Star Trek and it looks like it's being
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: filmed by like Days of Our Lives.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: It has that really weird, like there's no depth in
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: the field. And Craig's like, what are you talking about?
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: I don't see any difference. And I'm like, get off Facebook, Craig,
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: and have a look at the screen.
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  Speaker 3: This is coming from a guy who prefers DVD to
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: Blu-ray for clarity. Yeah, that's it. I'm a Blu-ray.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm a DVD guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just bought a Blu-ray player and I'm still
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: not going to buy any Blu-rays.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: I'll allow it.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to use it to watch my old DVDs.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: No, that's okay. Yeah, because I'm a continuity sort of guy,
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 5: Are you saying in current year you bought a Blu-ray
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: player and not a 4K Blu-ray player?
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You know which one it is because you said we
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: bought the same one when I sent you the picture
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 5: It. We did. No, you figured it out and you
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  Speaker 5: said we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 10:03
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: 4K is wasted on me.
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: It's not my fault.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: You don't know what to buy.
• 10:07
  Speaker 5: It's not my fault.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: They don't make Star Trek in 4K. So what's the
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: point in me watching my 30-year-old Star Trek DVDs?
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: Is that the only thing you watch?
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: Pretty much.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not buying project hail Mary and Oppenheimer on, on
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  Speaker 2: 4k to watch it here.
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: Well, that's your loss.
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  Speaker 2: I went, I went for the hurt there. Cause I
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: know they're two of your favorites. So I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: Where'd you pull that? Oppenheimer is one of my favorites. Oh,
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: I think it's what, well, it's one of the best
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: movies that it's not my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:42
  Speaker 5: Same as like Shawshank redemption is like the best movie
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  Speaker 5: ever seen, but it's not my favorite movie. You know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just remember you saying how, like, compelling and, like,
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: because you're a movie nerd, like, you love how well
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: it's shot and all that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah.
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: Leaving the theatre after seeing that, I was just, like,
• 10:56
  Speaker 5: unbelievably disturbed. Like, I haven't been physically, like, affected by
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  Speaker 5: a movie like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, every time I leave a Nolan film, I
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: leave the cinema feeling disturbed and uncomfortable, so... But I
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: still haven't seen Oppenheimer, so... Let's get into it.
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: A little bit of visitation. Episode 9 of Season 2
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  Speaker 3: of SGU. With no recollection of how they got to
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  Speaker 3: the Destiny, crew members left behind over a year earlier
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  Speaker 3: make a mysterious return. After an unsettling turn, the memories
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: stirred through regression therapy prove disastrous for those who've returned. Now, just.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Over a year?
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, that seems different than what they said in the.
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  Speaker 2: In next week's episode, they say, like, it's been 10
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: months since we left the Milky Way.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll just go straight to directed by Will Waring. Actually,
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: before that, can I just say that thank God for
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: the synopsis Brendan just gave me, which is from Prime Video.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: And we don't say that often at the moment.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Great people.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Because when I typed in Stargate Universe Visitation into Google,
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  Speaker 3: the first one that pops up is IMDB.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it gives you a little hit of the synopsis
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: before you have to click through. It says, aboard Destiny,
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: Rush has strapped himself into the chair and entered a
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: virtual reality world where he can spend time alone with
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Amanda Perry.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: That's a different episode.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: Spoiler alert. And I went, whoa, whoa, what have I done?
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  Speaker 3: And I've clicked in. And when you click in, it
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  Speaker 3: reads the right thing. So it's only the Google page preview.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, what is this? What does that mean?
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: What have I read?
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: That was last season.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: It wasn't even Matty that spoiled this one.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Fuck you. You just read the plot for Martin Guiro's
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: cancelled Stargate reboot.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, damn it.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, Shang-C. Stole the glory. Anyway, directed by Will Waring
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: and written by Remy... Auberginois. Auberginois. How very dare you.
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  Speaker 2: That's one for the both of you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: First time writer, too.
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: Is he?
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: Not bad. You know, I enjoyed the writing in this episode,
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: which I don't say very often. The dialogue was kind
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: of snappy. I didn't hate Vulgar and Brody like I
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: normally do.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're funny now. Their interaction were pretty good.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was starting to like them, too.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're starting to give the other guys kind of vibe.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: I think they tried that too hard early on.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny.
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  Speaker 5: This is unrelated to.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: No, you go.
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: Sorry, this is unrelated to this specific episode, but did
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: they get the water situation sorted after the episode where
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: they tried to get it and then it was all poison?
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't they have to... Was it some of the
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: poison from the chest burster things that was able to
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: get rid of all the hallucinogenic bugs in the water?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: It was something that encountered somewhere else that were able
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  Speaker 2: to purify the water.
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  Speaker 5: Right, but did they get any more than just that, like,
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: few pounds of ice?
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: No, we're good for water forever now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did one episode on it. Well, I mean,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: they've done multiple episodes on it now because it was
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: obviously the sandbags that were eating the water in season one,
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: like early season one. So, like, we've done enough. There's
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: just water now, guys.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: There's just water.
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, there's just water.
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: They got hydroponics, so they're actually using more water, right?
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: To grow shit?
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, they got heaps from Eden on the. Which we
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: never saw, by the way. Yeah.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I fucking hated the most about
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: this episode? Was that those people who came to Destiny
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: from the shuttle, they had, like Greer said, they had
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: zero survival instincts. Because I'm looking at that shuttle, right?
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: They're freezing in there. We can't shut the door because
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: it's vacuum sealed and we'll suffocate. Well, just keep opening
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: the door. Or better yet, build a shelter around the
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: shuttle and build a fireplace. I didn't see any wood
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: in that shuttle.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: You'd also leave it open to crack?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a smidge.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Like, come on.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Little doorstop guys, you know, just something. That was too much. Because, like,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: what do we get the idea? How many months were
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: they there for? Brr. I mean, who knows, right? I
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: don't know. Like, it could have been two months before
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: they died and they've actually been dead for six before
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: they appeared here.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: The aliens came back from holidays.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: What the fuck have you done with the place? There
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: might have been a time frame in that, like, flashback where, like,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: they're farming and they're like, oh, no, it's too late
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: in the winter now or something or other. But I
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: checked out.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: By that point. It just started to shit me because
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, how passionate the main people, anyway, Godboy was like, hey, guys,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I think we're meant to be here and God will provide.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: And then like two weeks later, they're like, are we dying?
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, we are. It's just going to be
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: really slow though.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, sweet.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: We had trees falling on women in the middle of
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: the forest. That makes noise.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: And there's the survival instincts that Brandon was talking about.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Walk two feet to the left and you won't get
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: hit by a tree. It's pretty easy.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: She had the Prometheus thing. It was like, just keep running. Right,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: with that very skinny, skinny sort of.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Outrun the length of the tree rather than the width
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: of the tree.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Do not run sideways.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: No, never.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Well, it's that guy's fault. It's Peter's fault because he's
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: called it falling a tree in the hypnosis interview. Oh, really? Like, dude, okay,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: that's 101 right there.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: The thing that I hated was Godboy kept talking about, oh,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: you know, where we're going to be in a better place.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's such a fucked up mentality. Like,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you're here. This is pretty good. Like, what we're doing
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: right now, pretty good. Like, it's nice. Like, to constantly
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: be thinking, oh, if only I was dead because, like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: there's something better. That's so fucked up.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: As he said, Matty, that's what faith is. But I
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: thought his conviction was well written in this one.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Hold on one sec.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Hang on.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Oi, what do you want?
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: We're recording. Shit.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: That's right. Now you're on the pod. Say hi.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Peace and love.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Very good.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: A little cameo from Link there.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: What do you want?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: When you said you'd yell at someone, I thought it
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: must have been one of your kids.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Ghostbusters, what do you want? Sorry. Sorry, Jacob.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: You're good. So, I mean, I don't know. I thought
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Kane Godboy's conviction was well written in this episode, especially
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: when he had that conversation with Rush and then Rush
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: quoted you know, the mentioned the Bible stories to him.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I just thought that whole interaction was super well-written because
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: I believed his, I didn't believe him obviously. Cause you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: we're not God boys, but yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Um, Oh, I believed him. I like, I believe he's
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: mentally ill.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I totally believe he's mentally ill.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no. And then the, I believe that he would
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: take it that way. And of course they had to,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: it had to be that while he was gone, they
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: found you know, evidence of God or whatever, but I mean,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: not capital G God, but you.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Know, lowercase G God. In, in the Stargate franchise, what
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: we saw in this episode was bright white lights, the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: ability to create planets, bringing people back from the dead.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: That's all stuff we've seen ascended ancients do. Like there's nothing.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: There that is.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Create planets.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember when, um, um, Anubis destroyed, um, And then
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: we couldn't get a connection for weeks or whatever it was.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And then finally we go back to Abydos and Scar
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: is there and he's like, O'Neill, the gate will stay
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: until you leave. Why did I go Indian? I don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: know why I didn't. I went full Pakistani there for
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: some reason. I apologize.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: All the same to you, are they, mate?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think they built the planet, though. I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they just.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But they rebuilt it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: It was a bit of VR.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: The entire planet.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Because it was too new in the database.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I thought they ascended SG-1. That's what I thought.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: But they did. I'm not joking.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, you mean that episode. They just walked into a
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: void almost and it was like they were just, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: had the.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, with a sphere on it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Like just a square box.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But to us it looked like.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: It wasn't even real, was it? It was like a
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: force projection. And then, like, as soon as they left,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: it was gone. The pyramid, right?
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff was just all around them.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: They couldn't dial back again.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: But regardless, that's an insane level of power that they
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: probably would have called God too, you know?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just weird that in this show, like,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Cain is still just like God, but it's like there's-
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: There's nothing that's been presented so far that we haven't
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: been able to chalk up to an advanced alien species.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But it's the fact that it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Was there at the moment of the big, it's the
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: fact that it was there at the moment of the
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: big bang. That's what, that's what he, that's what they're,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: that's what.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Rush was presenting to everybody. Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, I'm saying that's got nothing to do
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: with these beings that brought all these idiots back to life.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: No.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: In terms of these idiots on the, on the shuttle.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: But the fact that. You go. Yeah. But the fact
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: that they're like, they're, they're saying, oh, and now that
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: there's this evidence of intelligence at the moment of the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: big bang. Like, of course they're going to jump to
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: calling it capital G God.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, of course. But that's also.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Even if it is just ascended beings.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's also existed before the ancients.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: That's the ancients are the ones that are searching that out.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: And the ancients, the ancients ascended ancients in the Milky
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Way galaxy. Cause as Brandon said, as ascension is geologically
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: based now.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks to, thanks to children of the gods, not children
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: of the gods, Ark of Truth. Um, there's, there's nothing
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: that's been presented to the, the Nafties on Eden that
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen Ancients be able to do. Like Ascended Ancients. Um,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: or even like the Ori could do a lot of that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Like Priors could do a lot of that shit as well. Um.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Would they know that? Like those, those specific people, would
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: they know that? Cause I'm sure all that, some of
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: that stuff is like SGC classified knowledge. But some of
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: them worked at the SGC or something?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: But they're all SGC personnel. They've all been cleared.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: They're Icarus personnel.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're Icarus personnel.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But they're not SGC personnel. They wouldn't have read all
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the files and known all the villains.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're getting... But to me, it's like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: SGC is the Pentagon now, right? So they're going to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the next super, super, super, super, super secret version of
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: what's inside the SGC, which is the Icarus thing. Because
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: isn't it in... Um, the end of Atlantis, they talk
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: about that or it might've been the deleted scene where
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: they talk about this super, super secret nine Chevron project.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: So it's like the people attached to Icarus are at
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the absolute cutting edge of human advancement in our galaxy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So they just know everything about Stargate.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: No, but they should have a basic knowledge of.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: What's going on. They would have had Daniel Jackson do
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: another video.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, fuck even.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Give him another meal. Yeah, the Stargate videos.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even Eli got the Daniel videos. And he'll go
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to those in like a 10-minute ship ride. So all
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: these people that were, you know, the best in their field,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: whether they're, you know, scientists and all that kind of stuff.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It's like, come on, guys.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was Dr.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Kane?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: What was he? Like, what was his profession? That's a
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: good question. Jacob might know.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: No idea.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do something unprecedented, and I'm going to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Google it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Hey, Holly, listen up.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, Jacob. I did like how
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: well every scene was written in this episode. I thought
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: all the dialogue was well written, whether you believe one
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: side or not. I didn't think that Cain made a
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: good argument for Christianity. I think he could have made
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: a better argument. But I guess maybe because it's an
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: atheist writing the script. I don't know if he's an atheist.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? But I don't think saying
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: that God will provide everything, that's not even what happens
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: in the Bible. They get kicked out of Eden for
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: having that original sin. And then they have to work
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: their entire fucking lives.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I think hoping God will prevail is forever.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He's like, nah, bro.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I kicked you out.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: You bit that fucking fruit, bitch.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The answer was on the first page of the book, guys.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I said, don't eat it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: You did. I've just Googled Dr.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Kane.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm on the Stargate fandom wiki. And literally once you
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: go past like his rank, his doctor, his lead, blah, blah, blah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: His very, very top quote is, I'm an IT tech,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you know. I fix Earth computers, not ancient communication devices.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: He would have been part of the tech team.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: On the Icarus gate, I guess.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And that's why he was stuck on the stones.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Why didn't they just leave him on Eden and just
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: call him on the phone? Like they don't need him there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Talk about overqualified. If you're an IT tech, but you're
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: a doctor, you have a doctorate?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in what?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: In what? Like engineering?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Religious studies?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: In archaeology.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Turn the mic back on Winston Churchill. That quote got me.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: That was so funny. Oh, I've got that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I've got that. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Arthur C.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Clarke. Turn the mic back on. Winston Churchill.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Trust me, guys.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I've got a great quote from Colonel Young, though. Sorry
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: for the delay, Dr.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Kane. Sorry.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Until he's been living in Vancouver.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I noticed that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Sorry for the.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Delay, Dr.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Kane.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Actually, speaking of even one words like that that people
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: say in this show, I still just can't get over
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Scott whenever he says his own name. Scat.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It's scat.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Scat.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Darn it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: It's not even just like an American version of us
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: saying a word. I'm an Australian, so I think it's funny,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: but it's really like a scat.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Scat.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: S-C-A-R-T.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, and he barely pronounces the T as well. Like
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: that one time where he's like, is he talking to
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: one of the aliens? Where he's like, scat.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Scat.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: It's almost scat. He's almost going scat. Yeah. I do
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: have one more little great quote from Young, but this
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: time it comes directly from Louis Ferreira. What is up,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: people who love Stargate so much that they watch the
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: behind-the-scenes commentary?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Sweet props to you guys. He was.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I love that guy. He's so fun.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: He's so good.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine? I could actually imagine, like, Louis actually playing, like,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: an O'Neill-type character. But they've given him just this suicidal,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: just emo boy, sad boy, young character. And I'm just like, damn,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: he could actually be really, really fun. And he's willing
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to go there as well.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like, hey, we want you to play
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: an O'Neill type. He's like, I can do that. They're like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: from the movie.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: You're going to play an O'Neill with one L.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I love the way they're able to make that ship
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: look like it's a flying ship through space.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: People sometimes forget that's actually.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Like, not the case.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Like the Gemini Awards. Oh!
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: He does sound like a good time.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Which one's the Gemini Awards?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: That's one of those, like, Canadian award shows, like the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Saturn Awards.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Shanksy got a few Geminis.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Nominations.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was his little swipe at them for
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: not giving a nom for the CGI on Universe. Hmm.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: That's a shame.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, well done.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Is this episode the first time that Greer has mentioned
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: to Scott the fact that he outranks him?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: He's like, it's my job to make sure that Butterball
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: lieutenants like you don't... Whatever it was.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he doesn't actually outrank him. So
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: he's got more experience. He's been in the military longer.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: No, he's a master sergeant.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Something like that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So he's not an officer.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So there's two levels of.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Uh what we've got military personnel there's enlisted and then
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: there's officers so you when you look at like um
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: or conscripted well yeah but oh geez don't say that
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to jacob it's it's too real for him at the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: moment um uh but yeah so there's like the whole
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: level like because if you look at um uh gary
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: jones he was like a chief master sergeant you know
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: whatever thing but they're all enlisted personnel so they actually
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: haven't been to like the military college like remember um
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: What was her name? That annoying blonde girl. What was
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: her name?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Carter.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, Hayley.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Hayley.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Hayley, that's it. Remember, she was like a cadet, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: when she graduates, she goes straight to lieutenant because that's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: like the lowest officer in the Air Force. So it's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: like lieutenant, captain, major. So by calling him a butter
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: bar lieutenant, he's basically saying you technically butter bar lieutenant.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: So by calling him that, he's saying you're... It's Butterball.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: No, Butterbar.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: No, it's not.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Play it again.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Play what again?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, did we not play that part?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: The term is Butterball, my guy. Are you sure?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: He threw out a my guy. Oh, the internet's condescending
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: language 101. Wow. Whoa. Thanks a lot, Jacob. I'm going
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: to pay for that now. So is Brendan.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: We're going to pay for that. Invite. With sass.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Can everyone just shut the fuck up for a minute?
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Because I've just Googled that again. A butter bar is
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a military slang for a second lieutenant in the US
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Army Marine Corps or Air Force or an ensign in
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the Navy. You can all suck whichever part of my
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: ass reaches you first. In order. Which one of you
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: would like.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: To go first? I was on your side this whole time.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: The whole time?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: The whole time?
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: So, wait a second. Are you saying that's an actual thing?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: That's what I've been trying to say, my guy.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: You fuck-ass nerd. How did you know that?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Because I was listening to the fucking audio commentary, you
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: butterball podcaster.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: You guys don't understand English over there, okay?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: We originated the language.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I don't believe you.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I'm going to believe you, but I don't.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: That's a classic American mindset is I've literally Googled it
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and I have the fucking facts in front of me.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't believe you. I don't believe you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I don't believe you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Fucking bring it up. Bring it up on one of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: your fucking computers, boys. Play the scene. Play the scene.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: I'll play it you're saying butter bar.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Butter bar bar.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah but he's like i'm like but.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: He but he talks with the black sense so like he.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Doesn't really i wouldn't have said that say But yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the term is basically like you're freshly minted. You don't
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. Greer has been in the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: military a lot longer and has way more experience.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: So you're telling us that you only found out it
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: was Butterbar while watching the audio commentary?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Today?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: No, like a week ago when I watched this episode.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Because.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I was talking about it and then you interrupted
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: me and said, no, it's but a ball. I only
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: just found out this fact last week, but you're a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: fucking idiot. Yeah, because I was explaining it and you
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: all stopped me to say that it was but a ball.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I just didn't understand what you were saying.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: When Greer is talking in your same fucking accent, Jacob,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and you couldn't even understand it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: It's not the same accent as me.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: He's using a black scent, you racist fuck.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Slurs, fellas.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: You know what? Retroactively, I get three that's ones just
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: taken off. I'm actually in.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Credit now.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You just make up whatever rule you want, mate.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: We'll just go along with it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Sounds about right. Sounds about right.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Hey, classic youngest child, am I right? It's like, just
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: walking into the room.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to get technical, I'm not
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: actually the youngest anymore, but.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: That's... That's a different podcast.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: As much shit as I gave Greer just now for
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: the way he pronounces words, I thought the scene where
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: he asks for forgiveness from Chloe to be very impactful.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: That was just very.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I had such a conflicting thought about that because the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: premise of that scene is fucking bullshit. Like, it makes
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: no sense. But the way that they... What do you mean?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone is convinced that Chloe, like Greer says at the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: top of the episode, he's like, that girl is turning
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: into the enemy. We don't know that. Nobody knows that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Something's happening to her. But there's no confirmation over what's
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: happening to her.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: She's lost control of her, she's, you know, lost control
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: of her body. Like, you know, she's gone and messed
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: with stuff. And so they, they can't help but think
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: that that's dangerous.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Lost control of one's faculties.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: But I mean, again, in a, in a series where
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: we have the Goa'uld and the Tok'ra. Just because you
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: turn physically into that alien over there, it doesn't mean
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: that in your mind you are going to be that alien.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the mansplanation. Just wanted to know what you
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: meant by that.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's, I just find it weird that everyone's
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: given up on Chloe, which is fair enough because she
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: is useless. But it's like they've all just decided.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: No, she can do math now.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Just throw questions at her.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: No woman can do that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: It's impressive. So yeah, I find the premise... And the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: fact that Greer is so convinced that at some point,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Young is going to give him the order to put
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: a bullet in her head. And he's like, I'm going,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to do that. And I need, I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: need your okay. I need, I need to hear you
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: say it's okay. It's such a fucked up thing to do.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I need your permission to let me
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: fucking murder you because we're too dumb to know what's
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: going on with you. So the whole premise of that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: is fucked up to me, but the way they perform it,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you can see how much Greer and Chloe fucking love
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: each other. So it was so amazing to watch and
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I bought every second of it. It was such a,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: it was such a weird scene to watch. Like I,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I hated the context and the premise of it, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I fucking loved the scene because they just sold it
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: so well.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: It's too bad because it's like if she was undergoing
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: this physical transformation and they were at the SGC and
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: they had access to Tok'ra intelligence or whatever, they would
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: be able to cure her.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: But it's because they're cut off and they can't. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: they can't even really figure out what's going on.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So I find it weird.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: They have to take this fearful approach.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I totally.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: So that's what.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: I bought, even though the fact that, yeah, it probably
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: isn't as bad as they think, but they can't take
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: that risk.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're just jumping ahead too quickly. Like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I totally agree that she should be in isolation, she
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: should be under guard and all that kind of stuff,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: but the fact that Greer has already gone four or
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: five steps ahead and not even said... He was talking
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: about it so matter-of-factly, like he wasn't even just saying,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I think at some point, young is going to give
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the order. Like we're not just going to leave you
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: on a planet.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Didn't he already do that or something? He didn't, he
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: already said, you know, what's going to have to happen
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: at some point.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But that doesn't mean conversation. No young, young. And well,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen young and green have that, have that conversation. Um,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I don't, ah, maybe I could be wrong there, but
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I just, yeah, it was, it was like, Gria's already
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: at the execution when we don't even know what she's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: going to turn into. You know what I mean? Like
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: it's this, I agree. We should be isolating her and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: figuring out what's going on. But the fact that at
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the top of the episode, he's like, that girl is
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: turning into the enemy. Like is so, is so weird
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: because we haven't even really been able to communicate properly
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: with the Eiffel 65 people. So we don't actually know
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: how much of an enemy they are. It could be a,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: they just want something on the ship. Like, we don't know. Like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: all they've sent us is the thing saying, like, surrender
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So, yeah, it's just a weird extra leap
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: in logic where I'm just like, whoa, whoa, pump the brakes, guys. But, yeah,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the way those two actors did that scene was absolutely
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: fucking amazing. Even the point where Chloe, like, okay, we
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: have to say goodbye. She wants to give him a hug.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I can't let you do that. Like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: he's not even going to put himself in that position to,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: you know, be vulnerable enough in case, you know, that's
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: not really Chloe he's talking to. That was so fucking good. But, yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I just felt like it was too many steps ahead.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, fair enough.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I just thought he was just waiting for that because
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: we know that he loves shooting people.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: So it's almost like a fin kill. It's like he
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: loves shooting enemies.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: He was waiting for a chance to cap Simeon, you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and he hates Rush at times or Telford or whatever. But, like,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: he digs Chloe.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What you didn't see from the deleted scenes was
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: him actually going, Louie, I need your permission. Can I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: use my flamethrower?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, just to really make sure. We're going to get
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: the toxins, yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: He's like, I want to enjoy myself.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: And he's crying while doing it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so happy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: It's what Pinchy would do.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: You smell like bacon when you're burning. Come in. How
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: are you?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Still me.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Mostly, anyway.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Good to know. Once I've changed completely, the Colonel will
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: see me as a threat. Won't he? I think so.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: What will he do?
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Remove the threat.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: One way or another.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Will it be you?
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am. I think so.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Don't be. I couldn't let it be anyone else.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Is that what you came to tell me?
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: I came to ask for your forgiveness. For when the
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: time does come.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: If I could please hear you say.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I forgive you, Ronald.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Thank you. That's important.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Will I see you again?
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: It would be better for me if I said goodbye now.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Okay. Jesus Christ. I'm sorry.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: C-H-L-O-E.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Chloe.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Cut to black.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Chloe, Chloe, Chloe. With the actual staff blast that killed Charley.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, man.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: That was seamless.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: That was excellent.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: That was brilliant.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Fuck that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Fantastic.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: No notes.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That is... So brutal.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Perfect.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely perfect.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Bitch you're like it's a little bit long but yeah
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: it's like I'm just gonna lull you into a false
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: sense of emotional security yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: He capped that bitch he's sideways too.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: So Chloe's dead.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: So the thing that I want to bring up about
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: that is one of our great patrons.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Hannah Pegman.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Oh I love getting pegged by Hannah Absolutely.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, Pegman or the Pegman?
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I will say, actually, I was meant to read her
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: name at the start of the episode. This episode is
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: brought to you by Hannah.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this episode is brought to you by Hannah. This
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: is Hannah's... is Hannah's episode. She's from New Zealand, though.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So is she a Pugman?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I saw that, yes. Pugman? No, it would be, E's
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: become an I.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Pigman.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Pigman.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Pigman.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Pigman.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Hannah says, at 23 minutes in, this is about last
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: week's episode, 23 minutes in when the mics got turned
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: down and Maddie's protest in the background, followed by Mitch
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: trying to get things back on track.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: That could be any episode, really.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: These episodes never fail to make me laugh, and due
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: to New Zealand not having SGU available to watch on platforms,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: this podcast is how I'm watching SGU.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So she hasn't seen it. She's just basing it on
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: this podcast. Oh, my God.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: P.S.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: That Chloe theme is permanently stuck in my head.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too. But that was kind of.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Hannah's saying that was part of the reason why you
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: wanted to make that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Can we now, for the sake of Hannah, we do
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: want to.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Hannah saying that was the reason why I... Part of
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: the reason why I made that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: We should do what they used to do with Arrested Development.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: On the next, Arrested Development. And they would play clips
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: from an episode that was never happening. It was storylines
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: that were never followed up. They worked off the episode
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: you just saw, but were never part of the actual
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: mythology and canon and stuff. So we could just say
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: anything to Hannah. Oh my God, that's magic.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: That's brilliant.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: No, actually, the recaps that they do at the start
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: of the episode, when I've watched the show in the past,
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: when I've been binging it, Um, I was kind of
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: annoyed by those because like, oh yeah, I watched that yesterday.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Like I don't, but, but this time, you know, just
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: hopping in and watching a few episodes here or there,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: I found it really helpful.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, spoiler alert for Mitch, but when we get
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: to the back end of, of this season, after like
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the mid season finale, that's the thing that Brennan and
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I've been referencing the whole time where like the, the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: previously on keeps including, um, Eli going the whole time.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Right. And you just like every episode you get Eli
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: going the whole time.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that starts in the next couple or something.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Because I watched ahead. I couldn't stop. Once we watched
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: the three that, you know, I was like, I couldn't stop.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: I was like hooked.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Jacob texted me today, like live tweeting me as he's
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: watching Twin Destinies, which is like four episodes away. He's like,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I couldn't stop.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: No, like from this point on, it's pretty great science fiction.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: It builds really well. Like compared to... I was thinking
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: about it yesterday. Like I'm watching Dark Matter, not the
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Joe Malozzi one, the one on Apple with.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Joel Edgerton. Joel Edgerton. Really fun.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like... Yeah, it's like... They go to
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: different realities through this box. It's really cool.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: The box. Oh, shoot.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I was like, apart from that, SGU could be my
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: favourite show that I'm watching at the moment.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: It gets to that tier level.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Because everything today for me feels very similar.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Like you get all that colour grading stuff that it's like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: this is a comedy, so it's bright, which comedies always were.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: But then they've got that grading, that grey scale.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Especially Apple. And it's so much of the... the writing
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: is so like that Star-Lord self-referential, you know, taking any
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: peril or any, you know, heightened emotion out of it
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: by like making a joke and being self-referential. And there's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: actually in, I think, about two episodes time, and this
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: is me with 2026 goggles on it, can we please
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: retire forever? You got this or we got this. It just...
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I just cannot stand it anymore.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And let's go.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Let's go is fine. Cause let's go. But it's like,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: whenever someone's trying to like give someone a pep talk,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: they're like, you got this. And I just, I'm so
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: over it. It just takes me out of it immediately.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's become this little bugbear. because it's like
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: shows that are set a thousand years from now or
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: shows that are set 50 years ago, they're all saying,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you got this, we got this. And I'm just like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: stop it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I couldn't get into Discovery because of that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: It's just like that modern vernacular.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Come on, dude.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Certain things should be timeless. And I just, every time
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I hear you got this now, I just get douche chills.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about the other, I was thinking about
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: that the other day and there's only really one, like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: colloquial term that I think has hung around forever and
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: that's the word cool like it's always been cool to
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: be cool but everything else comes in and out like
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: you know it's like oh groovy oh you know that's
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: rad oh that's sick like that's all been dated.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: But cool that's fire and now it's like ooh ice
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: like it's everything is like from happy.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Days they weren't all happy days laughing The Fonz made
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: that so cool.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: See, you haven't spent time with the new arrivals. That
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: sounds sexual.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Eight science times.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: No survival skills.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of people go in my time,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: and I know I'm going to see more before I'm
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: done here.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: I have never seen anyone come back.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Until now.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Okay, you're being too deep again. that's what she said
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: literally is that the episode is that the scene where
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: they're on the observation deck yeah i couldn't focus on
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: a thing she was saying because her ass was just
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: like so like i don't know what the way she
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: was facing in that shot i was like.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Is that is that the scene where they're on they
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: go to the hydroponics dome thing No.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: No, this is in the viewing, in the.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: No, on the.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, the main observation lounge. What's the scene? I just,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: cause I've got a note here about it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It was when.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's TJ takes God boy there.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Doesn't she?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: TJ takes God boy to the hydroponic dome.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: No.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Something they said in the audio commentary. That's where they're
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: just standing at the rail, looking over the hydroponics dome.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: That's the gate room. So that little where T.J. and
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Godboy are standing.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: In production, you mean?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where T.J. and Godboy are standing, that's actually the
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: top part of the stairs from the gate room. And
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: they just blue screen, green screen the rest of it
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: to make that. I was like, that's fucking ingenious.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: That's movies, babe.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: You never would have seen. Yeah. Oh, dude, the number
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: of cheats of perspective and stuff in movie making is
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: that you would never realize, but it just makes stuff
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: look normal. It's unbelievable.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen the original Godzillas? Like those,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: those aren't actually houses. Those are just like cardboard buildings.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: It's not a real monster either. Yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: It turns out, it turns out the Megazord in Power
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Rangers is just a dude in cardboard boxes.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, way to ruin my childhood.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: That's bullshit.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I don't believe you.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Speaking of guys inside things though. Just what a Trojan
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: would say.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: The guys on the horse were Greek.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Why is a Trojan horse then? Because they're from Troy.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Because that's what you guys done. That sounds like a
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: kind of argument we'd have. Oh, actually, that is the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: argument we just had earlier about Butterbee. Butterbeer. Butterbar.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Are you saying Butterbee?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I just, yep, I absolutely said Butterbeer that time. Because
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I'm transphobic.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Knew it. You're a fake ally.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: Fuck trans-exclusive radical feminists. Fuck them. How about be trans-inclusive
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: radical misogynist?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Fuck, I'm so lost in what you just said.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: It all makes sense.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: No, it's trans women are women, so they're useless. Like,
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: that's what.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: No, you need to change the radical to something starting
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: with an S, so that way the abbreviation is tism.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: So there's a turf and a tism.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: Trans-inclusive super misogynist.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, perfect. Absolutely.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of tism I have.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I think Eli's pretty used to this, but this is
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: exactly what happens every time he talks to a girl.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Somewhere in the dark regions of the universe, where nobody goes,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: soars an ancient ship.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Destiny.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Deep within this dank and uninviting place lives Eli.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I'm Math Boy.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: Hey. So many of you keeping your distance from us,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: I hear.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Meh.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: We're all boring.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: You're not missing a thing.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: The planet. I heard you called it Eden.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: We did. I never got to go.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Everybody said it was amazing.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Do you miss it?
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Honestly, my memory of it is just now coming back
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to me in pieces.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: In fact, the strangest memory came back to me when
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: I was sitting here. What? I'd be embarrassed to say it.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Well, now I have to know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Skinny dipping. There's the lake. Yeah, no.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I've heard about it already.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: People were doing that before you guys decided to stay.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You must have checked out the obelisk, right? It was
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: there the whole time.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Uh, I... Whoa.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Whoa, your nose is bleeding.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, what's happening?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: We need help over here.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Somebody get help!
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Eva!
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: There's no pussy down there. He has no riz, mate. Yeah,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: listen here. He has no riz. He's like, stop talking
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: about your titties. Not interested.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Stop talking about swimming naked.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about the obelisk. I've heard about that.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: No, he has got no charisma.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: He was even just like, yeah, I've already heard about that.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: She's like, seriously.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Seriously going to tell him about her nudie run.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And he's like, heard about it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: It.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: What about the obelisk?
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: What about that giant shaft thing?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Her final story could have been like, hey, so we
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: were skinny dipping and then I fell. And then just
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, I was just like legs spread, just
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: like crazy while the entire camp watched. That could have
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: been her last story to tell. And instead he's like, obelisk.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And she's like, you know what? I think I'm just
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: going to give myself a brain hemorrhage and start bleeding.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: From the brain.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Talking to you is painful so much. Then my brain
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: is bleeding.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: My brain is liquefying out.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: She wouldn't have actually died. She just wanted to get
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: out of the conversation.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: The god aliens basically, they all gave them like a switch,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: like a little just in their mind. Whenever they think
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: they've had enough and they're ready to say goodbye to
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: all the people on the Destiny, they can just subconsciously
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: click it. And that was her moment. She's like, okay,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: now I'm done.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: And I'm out.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm out.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: This, I don't know. That scene, especially in the moment
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: where Eli was like, well, now I have to know.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: That was the first time where I think I've looked
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: at David Blue as Eli, and I'm like, you're pretty attractive,
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: my guy.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just being gay, but I'm looking at him,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: and I was like, Dang, like your smile.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The man is handsome, baby.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very charismatic. Like when the light hits him
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: just right, he's got great skin. He's got a really
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: nice like jawline and he's got these big, he's like
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Michael Shanks where he's got those really bright eyes and
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: when the light hits him. What have they gone that far? Oh,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: just the eyes. When the light hits it just right,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh damn, okay, all right.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: And his teeth, he's got nice teeth.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's got a.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Very infectious smile, yeah. I think I would have enjoyed...
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I think this episode was just maybe a little bit
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: ambitious for 40 minutes. I almost wish kind of the
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Chloe stuff had been moved to like next week or
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: something like that. And we maybe got to explore the
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: mystery of the deaths a little bit more. Like by
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the time we got to the second one where the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: guy's just like spontaneously hypothermic frozen, like, oh, okay. They
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: froze to death on the planet that, you know, you
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: kind of solved it yourself straight away. Whereas with the
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: chick who like had the brain hemorrhage, you're like, oh, what?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: happened there because like chloe um tj has that whole
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: thing about you know oh you know she has all
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: the signs of being basically beat to death with a
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: baseball bat but that's not what happened so like yeah
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: i almost wish there could have been a couple more
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: innocuous like the there was just like that the the
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: no-name lady who like just you could tell she died
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: of like being bitten by something poisonous or ate something
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: poisonous she just started like i feel like that one
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: should have happened before the frostbite one Or something like that.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: They could have come up with, I think, a few
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: more interesting, unusual, unexplainable deaths before we went to the hypothermia.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Because it did.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Happen very quickly once everyone's like, oh, they're all dying.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: They don't know for sure, but they're just like, oh,
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: they must just be re-dying.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if it's happening in chronological order, it's like, well, Godboy,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: who's the last one to die, because his faith kept
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: him warm... So it's like the hypothermic one.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: He had a warm blanket from Janet.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Who's Janet?
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Janet Frazier, the doctor. Remember she loved warm blankets. She did?
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: She loved it.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Who hates warm blankets?
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Can we get some warm blankets over here?
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't like a warm blanket? But yeah, so I
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: feel like the hypothermia death should have been like the
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: last of them. So I feel like, you know, that yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: the chick getting bitten or eating something poisonous should have
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: gone earlier than... You know, yeah, I just, but I
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: get it because they had, you know, that great Greer
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: and Chloe scene, you know, there's only so much runtime
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: they can work with. So they did well for what
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: was there, but yeah, I think I would have liked
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: to have explored the death and faith elements a little
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: bit more and maybe had a bit more of a
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: back and forward because I feel like everyone was just
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: kind of like condescendingly just kind of patting old mate
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: on the head, just going, okay, God boy, sure, no worries.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: You keep believing that, you little Jesus freak. and didn't
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: sort of whereas like you know SG1 it was all
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: about like Jack was so passionate about being like no
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: don't bow before these gods don't you know do all
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: these things you know you're better than that you're worth
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: more than that false gods yeah so I just yeah
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: it's just a bit of a bummer but.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: I did like how much time they spent with the
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: TJ story on this episode like her story lately has
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: been so tragic where she just can't help but think
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: of her daughter being alive.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, lately, when has TJ's story not been tragic?
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: Well, right. But in this specific part where it seems
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: quite obvious that she's just coping with the death of
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: her infant or a newborn or would have been like,
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: it died in childbirth, right? So it's like.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I believe that's what your people over there would call a.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: That's a late term abortion.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, a post-birth abortion is what TJ had.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: But yeah, so it's like that. And she's clearly just
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: creating this reality to cope with that. In my mind, anyway,
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's ever officially said because they're like, oh,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: it could be the ship. But anyway.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to know. It is heartbreaking because it's like, yeah,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: like TJ was so excited. She's like, oh, my God,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: my baby could be on that shuttle. And then the
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: fact that, yeah, they have no memory of that. They're like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: there definitely weren't any cabins. What do you know? I mean,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: that was that was pretty brutal. And as far as
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I can recall, that. That might even be the last
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: like reference we get like to the baby.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: It seems like it's kind of wrapped up because she,
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: she came to a point of acceptance, uh, where she's like,
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I must just, this must just be me
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: thinking about it.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: You know? Oh, that's right.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Cause that was not in so many.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Words, but yeah, that was where God boy got to
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: that thing that I was whinging about before. We're about the, um,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: better place. The baby's just in a better place.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: It's fucked up, but technically that's true because raising a
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: kid on that ship would just be, that's no.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Life for a child. I mean, they're raising a child.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Still going to wipe his ass.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the baby would be more useful
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: than Chloe in a couple of months.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: It would be.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: If it can do math, yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: So when she lost the baby, and I said in
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the pod that it was, you know, like she sort of,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: came to and they were like, we're really sorry. Like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: you know, the baby's gone, but through her dreamscape thing
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: that she and the baby were in Eden.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: As we later find out to be called Eden, the
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: baby's there. She comes back. She's still got a, give
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: birth to that, you know, now deceased unborn child.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Did someone remove it?
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: No, they pulled it out, didn't they?
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: That's what I wondered. Did they have to dispose of
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: its corpse and use it as fertilizer?
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: So like that happens, right? And so then these guys,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: like they've already died somewhere else and then they get
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: brought here. And then all of a sudden we've got,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: how many came through?
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Six, eight.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: What did Greer say in that clip? I think he
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: said half a dozen, six or eight.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: And it's like, hey, here's eight more dead bodies you
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: have to worry about now on the ship. It's like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. Like, what are they going to, you know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: miraculously sort of, they're just going to disappear. Because, like,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: the way that it ends, it's like, oh, well, that
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: was an adventure. And I'm like, no, but what happens now?
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: They're definitely fertilizer.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Especially when they walk in and TJ's like, yeah, all
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: died in their sleep. And I'm like, fuck, there was
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of them, man. Like, that is way too
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: casual for all that death that just happened because, like,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: when they're sitting there, they've got hypothermia for no reason.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And the fact that I was wondering that the
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: shuttle was perfect, right? This is factory new. It's got
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: a new shuttle smell. But are they concerned that the
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: shuttle is also temporary alive? Like it's just going to
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: revert to being derelict?
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Who's driving that for the first time now? You take
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: the refurbished one.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did have that line where like, isn't it
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: weird that it's like they all came back in, you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: quote unquote, perfect condition, but like such and such still
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: needed glasses, such and such. Like it was just kind of, yeah,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: they just kind of rewound the clock to the, you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: the last time it was fully functional. So that was
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: like when they landed on the planet is kind of
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: what they got rewinded to. Whereas, yeah, with the shuttle,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: they just, oh, we'll just give them a new one.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: But it was obviously, yeah, it's a long episode just
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: for us to now get a brand new shuttle.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Cooper. Cooper.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: But I do, we used to talk about what they
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: were doing with the bodies of all these people. Because
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: in my mind, they'd all sort of eventually disappeared. But no,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: that was sort of in all the flashbacks and stuff.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I hope they fed them. Because like, yeah, they've got
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: to be fertilizer. And, you know, technically, technically, feces are
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: a water-based lubricant. That's all I'm saying.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: So I guess you could say this for any episode,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: but what was the point of this happening?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: You could say that for most of the episodes in
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the universe.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Like almost any episode of any TV show, like something
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: like The Simpsons, which resets at the end of every episode,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: what was the point?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: To get a shuttle.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I mean. Like other than getting
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: a shuttle, like what did these guys... Yeah.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess TJ, we confirmed TJ... Well, is it
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: confirmed though?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Because she had that dream thing, right? She was unconscious
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that whole time. Then we drop out of FTL and
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: she walks out to the observation room and she sees
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: the exact nebula thing in space that she saw above
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Eden when she was on Eden.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Because the ship gave her that.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I can see that. But the ship hadn't arrived yet.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: The ship was still in FTL.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the ship knew. It was getting, yeah. Seed ship.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Seed ship sending back via bluetooth you know check this
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: shit out when you get.
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: Here just the seed ships have already been there.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Destiny feels like a dick then. Like if it's really
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: playing with TJ's mind that much, be like, you know what?
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to give you this one little hope
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: that what happened is actually real by feeding her some
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: stellar cartography maps into her brain as well, just to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: fuck with her.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: That's kind of, yeah, it's kind of wild.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Ancients are dicks.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was listening back to.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, the ancients are assholes.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Our podcast the other week, Trial and Error, and I said,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: is that like Young's interpretation of how everyone would speak
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: to him or is that the ship having been.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: In everyone's minds?
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: And we were like, oh, well, it's a good concept.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: It's a good thought. And I'm like, as I was
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: listening back to it, I'm like, no, hang on a second.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: In that, TJ told Young about having the baby being
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: taken away.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, our baby's still at it. No, because he was
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: awake and dreaming. When he was awake, it was real.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: when he would go to sleep, he would have the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: dream of the attack and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Of the scenario?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: The scenario was only when he was asleep.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd always wake up.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: He'd always wake up and he'd be in the real
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: world again.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, I just, yeah, okay.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm misremembering it. It's like every time.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: No, because it does, if the first time you watch it,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: I thought it was meant to be like a window
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: of opportunity thing.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I watched it actually.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but no.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Mitch, you say, what's the point of this episode? I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: wonder if it's maybe a season three thing where they
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: were like, you know, they were going to answer that like,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: and potentially get like a more direct answer from whatever
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: these aliens are. It's like, Oh yeah, we were watching
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: out for you guys. And this was our way of,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: you know, showing you that you guys staying on the ship.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: That's the right call.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Because these guys, TJ's baby is the equivalent of, um,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the Hasisa's child going to live with Oma Dasala kind
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: of thing. You know what I mean?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And then later in season three, we would have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: met your course.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: In season three, we would have met, you know, an
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: eight year old Scarlet. Who's like with these, you know,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: God beings or whatever, or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: But based on what we get from season one and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: season two, it does feel kind of unanswered and kind
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: of left behind.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Like there could be some more
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: references to it later in this season.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: I don't remember. I got that lead up for TJ.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: This isn't a joke one, just in case you don't know.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Is it them? I just ran into Eli.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Well, Eli's got a big mouth. You don't need to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: be here.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Try and stop me.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Listen to me, TJ.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: I know what you must be thinking.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: You should have told me. What you experienced was a simulation.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: We know that.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: No, you know that.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: If they can send our people back to us, don't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: you think it's possible they could save our daughter? Nobody
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: mentioned a child. I don't want you to set yourself up.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: I need to know.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: You will exit the shuttle one person at a time.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Sergeant Greer and members of his team will escort you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: to a holding area.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Peter.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Val.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: She goes into the shuttle looking for the baby. It's
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: so heartbreaking. She's like, where's the car seat?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: And then here at this point, she nearly broke down.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: She's a great actor.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: And she says she's fine i felt i felt like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: i kind of wanted her.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: To kind of let go at that point just like
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: let it all out yeah i don't know there's something
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: about me that just was like just let it out.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see it but it does also track
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: with her character is this whole way through she's had
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: to put herself second yeah you know what.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: I mean at that moment right there that was like
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: the the climax of that story.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, I was just hoping for
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit more.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: But I think if she had started, you piece of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: fucking shit, I can't believe, you know, like it's his
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: fault that the baby's dead indirectly.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Who?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It's, um, young's fault. Oh, indirectly.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So like, yeah, I just, I don't know. I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: was waiting for something bigger.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I think that would be amazing. And I think, I think, um, Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Elena Huffman would have absolutely killed that.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: She broke down and that's when he's actually finally has
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: to console her. Cause at the moment he's just a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: fucking asshole to her.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: He's been so cold. Yeah.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But it is, it is great. Like it, it,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: it is a, it is, I feel true to her
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: character in the way that it's like she was, she
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: of anyone, she was not supposed to be here. You know,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: she was leaving the military and she ended up on the,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: on the destiny and, you know, she was leaving young
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: and now she had the baby and then she couldn't leave.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: She couldn't stay on Eden because she's the only medic.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: She's the doctor. So she was made to stay. She
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: was made to put the welfare of everyone else ahead
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: of her. She's always having to, she's always being told
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: and always having to put herself second. So then the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: fact that, you know, she's about to, there's a moment
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: she thinks she's going to reunite with her baby and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: then she's not there. So again, she kind of just,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: buries that she just buries it into herself and goes
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: back into work money she's like oh okay i've got
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: to give these these um uh physicals to these people
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: and i need to go back into and it's and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: it's heartbreaking it's absolutely heartbreaking like you know chloe keeps
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: whinging about how hard it is for her and what
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: a terrible time she has napping and i'm like try
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: being tj for a day yeah you couldn't do it
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: yeah so yeah it's one of those like um it's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: like you were saying like maybe maybe a season three
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: breakdown would have been great but like brendan said it's
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: like this would have been the perfect moment for her
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: to just be like, this is too much.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: This is it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: This is the final straw. And her just absolutely losing.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: The scene was great. It was like fantastic acting. I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: was just, I was like, Ooh, I wanted more. Cause
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: we just seem to just disregard anything that TJ wants.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, this sucks, dude.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. She really gets, gets the rough end.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: She could have screamed like old mate that, that died
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: first after talking to Eli, like that, that scream went
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: on for a while.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: It was, yeah, that was going to cut some of it,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: but I'm like, no, I'm going to leave it.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Cause Eli's like, I've never made a woman scream.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Tell me about your sex dream about me.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, do you know what vision?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: So I just, I'm sorry. Just, I just, I just could,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like, did I miss something when she's like, we
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: were skinny dipping. He's like, I don't worry. People have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: been doing that since before you went to some alien planet.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Like what are you, what, What question are you answering?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: What the fuck?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, Eli's in the hydroponics. He's naked in the hydroponics.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, I've heard that story because he went
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: down to Eden, didn't he? No.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, he did. That's what he says. I didn't
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: get to go down.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: People told me that they were skinny dipping. It's like, yeah,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: but you didn't hear it from this bird.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this beautiful woman wants to tell you about the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: time she was skinny dipping. And he's like, no, I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear about that. Tell me about the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: ancient artifact.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: Tell me about the big black thing.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Not to bring it back down again, but I just,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: while you guys were talking, I had this like, visual
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: image that I think would have absolutely wrecked everyone. You
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: know how like the end of most episodes that there was,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: there's always some kind of like montage to music and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. And obviously this one, we just had
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: like the flash and that was it, you know, kind
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: of thing. Imagine if there was a montage and it's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: all the crew sort of dealing with everything and there's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: just to music and there's no sound. You see TJ
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: walk into the shuttle, close the door. So it's like
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: airproof and soundproof and just fucking scream. And, just have
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: that complete mentee be emotional breakdown, fall to the ground, crying, screaming. And,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: you know, and then it cuts to something else and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: you cut back to her times past and she just
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: gathers herself up.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Opens up the doors, pins her hair back up or whatever,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: and then walks back out to be, you know, LT again.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: And Schrodinger's baby at that point, right? Like, you know,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: like she'd accepted that she knew what was happening.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: One percent. And then it was like, oh, fuck, cool,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: an answer here. And then everyone just, it was almost
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: not even like, oh, well, people weren't looking back at
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: her the same way she was looking at them because
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: they didn't know the half a story that she knew.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: They were almost looking at her like, oh, you're still here.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: But were they judging her for not staying? Or, I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: don't know, it was weird. It was like just a
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: quick look by a couple of them as they walked past.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: It was like they were looking at her aggressively or
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: judgy or something.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Or was it an over-familiarity? Because she, I mean, even
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: when she was on Eden in the Mindscape thing, she
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: didn't really... engage with people a lot she mostly spoke
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: with um god boy yeah so yeah yeah it did
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: feel like she was a little too eager a little
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: too over familial and they were just like oh that's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: weird um but then it was also weird for them
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: to also be like why are you treating us like
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: without setting young why are you treating us like we're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: not welcome why would it's like well tj literally did
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: that and you just walk past her and we're all
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: weird about it so like what do you want guys
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: like you know you don't have to be jarring like
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: you don't have brain damage yet like Well, but it would.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Be jarring to be, like, ushered around my military personnel
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: in a hostile manner and then one person just be like, oh,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: my God, like, hi. You know, you're like, what? Yeah.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Person that I can't remember very well.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're like, oh, you were the pregnant girl. I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: didn't recognize you without the belly.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: And the hair down. When you got your hair up,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: you looked totally different.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Mitch, remember how I told you Camille Ray is so overqualified?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She can do everything.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: I'd like to put you and the others from the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: shuttle under hypnosis.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: See if I can stimulate memories from your subconscious.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: Did the IOA teach you that? Yeah, they did.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Anything else I should know about?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: That I was a little overqualified for HR. Okay, so
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: fan theory, fan theory, fan theory. The IOA poached her
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: from the CIA.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: And she's some kind of CIA operative and she knows
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: all this.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Things.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, she could use it more if she wanted to.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: It's just a slow burn.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: It is a slow burn. You wait. She gets even better.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: You wait till season three. She's amazing in season three.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: I wonder if they were intending to tell us more
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: about her, you know?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Cause there's all the shady shit she was doing. Was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: it last season when she went back to earth and
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: there was, she was talking with the IOA guy when
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: there was the whole coup and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: And she was like, Oh, I don't know which camp
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: to be in the young or the rush camp and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think, you know, there's more there, but,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe after– I feel like there is– it's hard to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: tell whether this was all pre-planned or maybe after season
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: one they're like, okay, we need to add some fresh–
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: because you've got to remember, Ming-Na originally wasn't part of
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the regular cast. She was like Lou Diamond Phillips. She
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: was only going to be in and out. Yeah. And
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: then midway through season one she became regular cast. So
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like this season it's like, okay, we need
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to give Camille something more. We need to make Chloe
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: like ten times more interesting because So they're just slowly
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: like trying to, you know, redirect these characters in ways
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: to make it sort of easier for them to write to.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I guess in the same way with Atlantis, they got
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: to the end of season one and went, God, Ford
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: is boring. Let's do something else.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Let's have him fall from somewhere really high.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: He could have been good though. I just don't think
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: they wrote for him well.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: It would be cool to have him building bombs and stuff.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: He was a demolitions expert. That could have been really cool.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Imagine if Ford had a bit more of Greer in him.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe Ford was like the prototype Greer. Imagine if Ford... Why?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: Because he's black?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Wow. Wow.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, diversity. You have to have a token black. Yeah,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: you got to have a token black guy.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: You got to have a token black guy with big
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: muscles who's into weapons like teal.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And Ford and Green.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would have been funny if, like, yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Ford had been exploring Atlantis and just, like, making flamethrowers and,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: you know, making Nacwita-enhanced bombs and shit like that.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: But they didn't.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: They made him a drug addict.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: With Lenny Kravitz glasses.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: All right, that is episode 338 of Get Into Gates.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: We'll be back next week to talk.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: Resurgence.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Is this episode 10? Maddie, is it a mid-season finale?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: Why don't you like that?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: It's stupid.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Mid-season.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: You're stupid.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: This is coming from the American.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: It's called Halftime.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: It's a sports reference.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Half time's fine, but a mid... Okay, so you're telling
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: me when the siren goes off at half time at
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: a football game, you guys call it the mid-season finale
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: of the game? Get fucked. The problem I have is
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: mid-season finale.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Mid-season state of origin, yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Mid-season finale.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, then why isn't the fourth act break the mid-episode finale? Like,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: I'm saying.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: It's got nothing to do with acts. So neither does
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: a mid-season finale. That's what I'm saying. The terminology.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: A mid means like halfway through.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: So halfway through the season, they have a break. So
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: halfway through the episode, it's the mid-season act break. Oh, sorry,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: the mid-episode act break.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: No, it's not. They're not coming back 30 minutes later. No,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: they're not.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: I just think it's... It's like half the season.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: It's stupid marketing.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: I hate it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I just think it's dumb. Like, mid-season finale. Like, what
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: are you doing?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Well, you don't work in marketing anymore, now do you?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Nor do any of the people that worked on this
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: show because they're all fucking unemployed in six months' time
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: after this.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: Oh!
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: So maybe if they hadn't kept fucking doing these mid-season finales,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: they'd still be running.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: Oh!
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think that was the thing.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: Everyone was doing that.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Someone at MGM called and went, all right, sit down.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: What the fuck's with this mid-season finale bullshit?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Go back to seasons one through, what, eight? Or one
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: through seven of SG1 and find me a mid-season finale.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: They don't exist. Those were when it was 22 episodes
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: a season. As soon as they started dropping back to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: 20 episodes a season, it was 10 and 10. So
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: they would do this mid-season finale. So every Atlanta season
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: had a mid-season finale. So does this shit. Yeah, then
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: they can spend more money on the special effects.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: How?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: They're still doing 20 episodes.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: They were dropping so much money on this show.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I'm saying- Three million an episode, that's unbelievable.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Atlantis was doing 20 episodes a season, regardless of whether
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: there was a mid-season finale or not. They still had
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: to do 10 episodes and then 10 episodes. Sorry, Jacob,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: how much did they spend?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: Three million an episode.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Far out. I didn't know that.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: I knew they spent a lot on the sets, the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: set design and set production, but wow, that's crazy.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's an average over the season
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: or if that's literally like a weekly, you know.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Well, Matty may not like it, but we are doing
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: a double episode.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: It's happening anyway.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: The mid-season finale ends the mid-season premiere 2.0 or whatever
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: we might want to call it. C.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: What's the two-parter? What's the name of when they come back?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. C, shitty marketing.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: That's what we'll be talking about.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: The mid-season conclusion.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Oh. That's horrible.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: And now, the finale.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: And now, the conclusion.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: How do you have a finale and then a conclusion? Sorry,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I just misspoke. This is Butterbar all over again.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: The mid-season penultimate and then the mid-season.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Are you saying Nagata?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Get into Geek.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Get into Geek, Stargate podcast.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Get into it now before it's too late.