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Chris Franjola, Rosie’s Kimmel Feud, Phoebe Gates Facing Prison? and Howie Mandel’s Viral Drama · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather Macdonald. Hello and welcome. to Juicy Scoop. When he
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  Speaker 1: is not making you buckle over laughing in clubs across America,
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  Speaker 1: you can find him at your local Color Me Mine
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  Speaker 1: or in a pool being dad of the year with
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  Speaker 1: his daughter. Everyone's favorite girl dad and funny man and
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  Speaker 1: my friend, Chris Frangiola. Wow. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Really nice. That intro actually Made me think I was
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  Speaker 3: back on like morning TV that I used to have
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  Speaker 3: to do when I was on the road.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was modeling it after.
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  Speaker 3: That was really good.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I could totally be like a dorky date.
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  Speaker 1: Like my life had a different thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There was a time I had a chance to go
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  Speaker 1: full dork.
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  Speaker 3: Like on one of those Good Morning Sacramento?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was after Chelsea. So nothing like the podcast
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  Speaker 1: hasn't taken off. I'm just doing stand up, whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: a producer of another show was going over to Denver.
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  Speaker 1: And they were like, basically, I had an offer.
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  Speaker 3: In LA?
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  Speaker 1: No. I'd have to move to Denver.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: With the fam because it was like every day.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And there was like a minute where I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God. I just walk in. I could be on
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  Speaker 1: TV every day doing hot topics and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a show that came on in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: multiple hosts. and like live in Denver and just like
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  Speaker 1: start a whole new like mommy life. And then of
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  Speaker 1: course the money was so bad.
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  Speaker 3: So bad.
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  Speaker 1: That it was like, there was, there was no way.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't going to need to like anything. And
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  Speaker 1: thank God I didn't. Cause a few years later it
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  Speaker 1: did get canceled. But when I would go do shows
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  Speaker 1: in Denver, I'd be a guest and they were all
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  Speaker 1: like lovely.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, but I remember we went to it one time
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  Speaker 1: and Drake was with me and there were all these
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  Speaker 1: people working this before the show got canceled, all these
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  Speaker 1: people working and they're, and Drake was like looking over
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  Speaker 1: at this person, like running like a Facebook page. And
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  Speaker 1: Drake was like, there's seven people. There's seven people on
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  Speaker 1: that's watching this on the Facebook. It was just so,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh God, this is hard.
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  Speaker 3: This is hard. I, at one time, I had done
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  Speaker 3: it like five weeks in a row, got up at
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  Speaker 3: five o'clock in the morning to go to these shows.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you don't know who's watching.
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  Speaker 1: Coffee cuteness.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually went on stage at the comedy club
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, how many people are here from good morning,
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  Speaker 3: whatever the fuck. And there's nobody. And I'm like, so
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  Speaker 3: thank you. So nobody's watching.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever, because you don't say no to anything.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever start to go, Hey, thanks so much
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  Speaker 1: for the offer. I'm not gonna be able to make
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  Speaker 1: it thinking in your head. It's not really worth my
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  Speaker 1: energy to do this show. Or you're such a thirsty bitch,
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  Speaker 1: you still do it.
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  Speaker 3: Unless the comedy club, it was a comedy club, requested it,
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  Speaker 3: I would do it. But otherwise, never. I would always
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  Speaker 3: say no. I still say no. But I don't get those.
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  Speaker 3: Those are gone. Most of that stuff's gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all like, ha, ha, ha.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see that anymore. Yeah. I actually simply, I
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  Speaker 3: had kind of an offer, too, in Dayton, Ohio. It
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  Speaker 3: was like, good morning, Dayton. Good morning, Dayton. And I
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  Speaker 3: said something like, this would be a great job. And
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  Speaker 3: they were like, well, you want it? Like, basically like that. Like,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to come back, you could be the guy.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, no, I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 3: move to Dayton. But I swear, I think they told
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  Speaker 3: me how much they made. That's like $ 12, 000 a year
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  Speaker 3: or something. You know, like, but you get to, you go,
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  Speaker 3: you make a little extra money going to like car
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  Speaker 3: dealerships and, you know, signings and stuff. And I'm like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I think I'm good on that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think growing up, you think it's like a
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  Speaker 1: bigger deal, but I think if you're only in like
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  Speaker 1: a big market, but there was just a story that
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  Speaker 1: went viral. Did you see that girl that like lost
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  Speaker 1: her shit?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She was like a local news person in Detroit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Which that's a big market, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big market. And I guess she's
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  Speaker 1: got fired, but now she's suing. And so they pulled
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  Speaker 1: up this old footage of her being like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to read the teleprompter. Well, LaShawn was told
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  Speaker 1: to do that. whatever. And then like the LaShawn or
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  Speaker 1: whatever his name was comes to like, just Mike, the bitch, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, she's such a fucking bitch. Like what? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Walk away. I'm like, Oh my God. If they do
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  Speaker 1: a real housewives of Detroit, this chick has a job.
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  Speaker 3: Cause she's like, it's a pretty good clip. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: now they just want those clips to go viral. Anytime
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  Speaker 3: that they do like something dirty. Did you see the
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  Speaker 3: girl talking about, there was another one like same day.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a morning show. And she was talking about,
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  Speaker 3: would you eat a beaver? You know, they were talking
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  Speaker 3: about surviving in the woods.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: And she's talking to the two co-hosts. And she's saying,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these people eat beaver. Would you eat
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  Speaker 3: a beaver? And that guy starts cracking up. And, like,
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  Speaker 3: they must love it if it goes viral.
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  Speaker 1: The other one I saw was it was a QVC-type
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  Speaker 1: thing for wigs. Yeah. And she's like, you know... Instead
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  Speaker 1: of having to give a blow job, you can just
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  Speaker 1: wear this wig, meaning she meant to say blow out.
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  Speaker 3: Blow out, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people made fun of that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she was on Jimmy Fallon.
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  Speaker 1: She was?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, next day she did a whole Jimmy Fallon bit.
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  Speaker 3: That woman really took off.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Takui? What was it? Takui, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying it wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Taktua?
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  Speaker 1: Was it Taktua?
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  Speaker 3: Taktua.
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  Speaker 1: Hawk Tua. What was it?
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  Speaker 3: Hawk Tua, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hawk Tua.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that girl.
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  Speaker 1: When's her documentary coming out? Because she's been gone just
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  Speaker 1: enough to get just like a 35-minute one-off doc.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think the reason that she is gone is
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  Speaker 3: because there was a criminal investigation into her. She did
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  Speaker 3: like a Bitcoin or something. And it was at the
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  Speaker 3: point where she could be put in jail for manipulating
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  Speaker 3: something with Bitcoin. So she had to go away.
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  Speaker 1: Well, since we're talking about that, let's talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Gates girl. So Bill Gates' daughter. Yes. And some other
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  Speaker 1: billionaire nepo girl. I've seen this story a few times,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm going to try to explain it the best
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  Speaker 1: I can. But they started a company about, it's like
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  Speaker 1: an app with shopping or something. Yeah. And all these other,
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  Speaker 1: like Kris Jenner and, you know, the people like that,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, you know, in that circle of bad boss ladies,
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  Speaker 1: they all invested in it. And now she's under investigation
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  Speaker 1: because she does this thing called cookie stuffing.
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  Speaker 3: Cookie stuffing.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, wait, first I was like, wait, she's
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  Speaker 1: selling cookies, what? The easiest way I think I can
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  Speaker 1: understand it is, what's interesting is she had all these influencers,
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  Speaker 1: high up influencers being part of her company.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But really there's so many people now and it's great
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  Speaker 1: that even if you have, you know, a thousand followers
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  Speaker 1: and you wear a cute top, you can just put
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  Speaker 1: a link and go, Hey, this is where you get
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  Speaker 1: the top. And that girl gets whatever, 12 cents.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And why not? Right. Why not? You're, you're spending the
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  Speaker 1: time doing it. The way they did it was they
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  Speaker 1: were somehow latching on to those links or something, which
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  Speaker 1: is illegal. So they would get all, even though they,
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  Speaker 1: even though the person found it through this one influencer,
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  Speaker 1: somehow that company was getting that extra what do you
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  Speaker 1: call it, like money, the extra link, the connection, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: They were getting the commission for it.
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  Speaker 1: They were getting the commission.
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  Speaker 3: There was stuff in cookies or something.
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  Speaker 1: There was stuff in cookies. And so they looked up
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  Speaker 1: and they have all the emails and text messages between
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  Speaker 1: the Gates girl and a couple other people, like clearly
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  Speaker 1: talking about the cookie and make sure we capture it
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  Speaker 1: all and everything. So it's like, they, she can't be
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  Speaker 1: walking around. Like, I didn't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: I was just the face of it. No, it like
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  Speaker 1: appears that she knew what was going on. And they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's make sure we capture them all. Like, what are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? We need to capture it all. And the,
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  Speaker 1: the crime 20 years can be up to.
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  Speaker 3: 20 years, which won't happen to her, but won't happen.
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  Speaker 1: To her, but it would be kind of great. if
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  Speaker 1: she went for, at least got to meet One Drop.
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  Speaker 1: Like they could have fun together. Because Jen Shaw from
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  Speaker 1: Real House of Salt Lake City, she already left One Drop.
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  Speaker 3: One Drop Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 1: Holmes is still in the Texas one. Didn't she have
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  Speaker 1: a child while in prison? Yeah. And the husband, she
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  Speaker 1: married someone really, like an heir to like hotels. And
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  Speaker 1: he goes and visits. I want to say there's two kids.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: What hotels in the air?
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  Speaker 1: No, like a big, like his parents are really wealthy.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like if you're going to be having sex
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  Speaker 3: with her in prison, I feel like you're not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that he can have sex.
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  Speaker 3: It's not the four seasons.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that they can meet in the little
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  Speaker 1: cabins and have sex. I don't think it's that.
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  Speaker 3: How'd she get pregnant then? Was it beforehand?
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  Speaker 1: No, she was pregnant before. Oh, okay. While she was waiting,
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  Speaker 1: she had a kid or two.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then went to prison. I believe her sentence is eight years.
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  Speaker 1: She's been there like four yeah and um i'm sure
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  Speaker 1: when she comes out security prison yeah and i'm sure
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  Speaker 1: when she comes out she'll have a reality show or
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  Speaker 1: a documentary or she'll be saying buy this shirt if.
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  Speaker 3: You like this black turtleneck.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people say, hey, I know it's maybe
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  Speaker 1: a bad memory, but I love your black fitted turtleneck.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to tell you about one that is
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  Speaker 1: completely cotton. We cut out the middleman. Yeah. So she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't talk that way anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she doesn't?
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  Speaker 1: No, that was a whole act so that she sounded
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  Speaker 1: like these Google dudes that she was like obsessed with.
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  Speaker 1: Or even like, she wore the black turtleneck because what's
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  Speaker 1: his name wore the black turtleneck? The one that died.
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  Speaker 3: Apple, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What was his name?
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher played him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Steve Jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Jobs, yeah. She was kind of either on purpose
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  Speaker 1: or not on purpose imitating Steve Jobs. Yeah. But the
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  Speaker 1: Gates girl could go, they could have a little, you know,
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  Speaker 1: white collar scammy like mentor, big sister, little sister, like
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  Speaker 1: a little like sorority.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And she could be like, Oh, my big is Elizabeth Holmes.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the Gates girl, there must be some
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  Speaker 3: money left for her, right? There'll be a will or
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  Speaker 3: something eventually. There's got to be money there. He's one
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  Speaker 3: of the richest men in the world. Does she have
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  Speaker 3: to be stuffing cookies or working for some website?
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  Speaker 1: I think that it was the Gates once they got divorced.
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  Speaker 3: They gave it all away.
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  Speaker 1: Because Bill Gates was also friends with Epstein, right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, was he ever.
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  Speaker 1: And then his wife, ex-wife's McKenzie.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And she... has given so much to charity and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to say that they said, we're not
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  Speaker 1: leaving our kids any money, but clearly there's like, I think.
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  Speaker 3: It's Melinda Gates, Melinda.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Melinda.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that they were one of those that
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  Speaker 1: are like, you know, we're not leaving our kids anything.
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  Speaker 1: We're whatever, giving it all to charity, but they'll have
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  Speaker 1: these things. Listen, I mean, obviously she'll have access to
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  Speaker 1: the best attorneys, but just like Elizabeth Holmes, She has
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  Speaker 1: to prove she didn't know this was going on, that
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  Speaker 1: she started this and all these people under her were
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  Speaker 1: doing this shady shit. This is like Iran-Contra scandal with Reagan.
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  Speaker 1: That's how old I am. They have to act like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't know. She was just the girl that showed
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  Speaker 1: up to cute lunches and did this fun thing because
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  Speaker 1: she was fresh out of college and they had the capital.
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  Speaker 1: And they could get more capital because they're the Gates
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  Speaker 1: and everybody wanted to be friends with her. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what they'd have to prove. But I think I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to keep talking about it because I want to
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  Speaker 1: see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now in the billionaire, because the other ones, Warren
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  Speaker 3: Buffett also says he's giving nothing to his children.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Now, does that really mean nothing? Or does that mean, no,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you enough so you can
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  Speaker 3: get a waterfall in your bedroom? You know, like one
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  Speaker 3: of the... Like, don't go crazy, but you're not going
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  Speaker 3: to be homeless either.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I think there's trust funds and things where they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you could do whatever you want. You could be like,
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  Speaker 1: you get this much at 25. If you produce two children,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get this much at 40. If at 55, okay,
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  Speaker 1: now you can enjoy your life just so that you
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  Speaker 1: aren't a complete loser and you have some motivation to
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  Speaker 1: do something.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Um, like I was just talking to somebody and they,
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  Speaker 1: they know a family that, um, you know, she married
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  Speaker 1: a very rich trust fund type of guy or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is. And the parents paid for the house and
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  Speaker 1: the parents paid for all the private school, but they
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  Speaker 1: don't have extra money for like vacations and they don't
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  Speaker 1: have extra money to send now the kid to like
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  Speaker 1: the really expensive college that she got into.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because the grandparents are finally like, oh my God, fucking
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  Speaker 1: go get a job. Like your kids, I'm not paying
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  Speaker 1: for the grandkids college to like do something. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what they're trying to say is because they're
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  Speaker 1: so uber wealthy, like in the billions, they have to
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  Speaker 1: figure out a way that still their child will like
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  Speaker 1: not become a complete drug addict and loser and contribute
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  Speaker 1: something to society. So they're probably all excited when the
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  Speaker 1: Gates daughter found a friend who was also a billionaire's daughter.
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, hey girl. Let's be bad bitches together.
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  Speaker 1: And then they realize, oh my God, not only are
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  Speaker 1: you doing a shady thing, but again, you're stealing from
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  Speaker 1: other women that are working so hard posting every day
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  Speaker 1: to be a bad bitch. You're like stealing 12 cents
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  Speaker 1: from them every time. Like, and so I really, I
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  Speaker 1: hope that, um, I hope there's some real punishment. Because
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  Speaker 1: when you look at someone who gets thrown into jail
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  Speaker 1: for six months because they wrote a bad check at
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  Speaker 1: a grocery store to buy groceries for their kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but their dad's not Bill Gates.
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  Speaker 1: Right, exactly. But that's the thing. That's not right.
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  Speaker 3: Right. But it is funny that I see those commercials.
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  Speaker 3: Like in afternoon television, they have these commercials for I
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  Speaker 3: guess these websites where they're like, come on over to
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  Speaker 3: cash dash. And then you have the people who did it.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, I got a blender for four cents.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, that can't be. That's got to be
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  Speaker 3: a scam, right? They're like these different apps that they
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  Speaker 3: have commercials for. It's like afternoon television where commercials are
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  Speaker 3: aimed at people who are like.
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  Speaker 1: And what do you think? That you're just basically giving
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  Speaker 1: all your information for them to screw you later.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Somehow they just want your information. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: you ever actually get a blender for four cents.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to see the person who actually got the
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: four cent blender. I don't think that's actually happening.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Or like companies that are like, are you in tax debt?
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: We'll help you.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: And so then I, I know that some are legit,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: but some are not. Cause then somebody will like, okay,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: oh my God, thank you. I haven't paid my taxes
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: in five years. I don't know what I'm going to do. Okay.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: We'll give us, you know, $ 4, 000 and we're going to
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: help you.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: And then like, they're like, well, now you need to
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: pay more so we can help you or get the
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: course or whatever. And then they disappear. And then you're like,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: oh shit. You know?
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Thank God I've never had to do any of like
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: check cashing plays or anything like that. I mean, life's
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: been okay.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I never had to go into a check cashing place
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and get payday loans.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Like, we'll get you that $ 50 you need.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: before bed.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Or two, you know.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Nobody's watching.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: You deserve a treat.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: With eight flavors to choose from, you can choose the
• 16:28
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• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks. and yet somehow have found a
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: the Emmys and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: It's about what happens next.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: every day was.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: You're worth the work.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Rosie O'Donnell, fresh from her facelift, and she also said
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: that it was a horrifying experience having to play a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: lesbian opposite Miranda Hobbs. in in um and just like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that remember she was the lesbian nun.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Yes oh my god i forgot about that i know it's.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Such a golden era of time for us i know
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: i'll never forgive myself for being so.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: So rosie's just back i thought she was gonna go away.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: She did she said she went to ireland yeah and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: then they called her and said well do you want
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to do the jimmy kimmel show and she was like
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: yeah like i hate america but not if it means
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: i can be on tv yeah so then she came
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: back and um I don't watch these shows. I mean,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I saw the clip. It's so... Tell me, how is
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it going this week for her?
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I watched a couple of her monologues. And I mean,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I guess we're going to go back 30 years to
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: when she, you know... We all remember the Rosie O'Donnell
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: show where she pretended to be straight and she was
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: into Tom Cruise.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so in love with Tom Cruise.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we all bought it at the time.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And she always was singing. She was obsessed with, like,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: every week there'd be at least one person from Broadway on.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: A Broadway person.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Which, as someone that lived in L.A., I was like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know who these Broadway people are. I'm never
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: going to see these shows.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, I guess it was good that she
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: promoted Broadway, but I was always like, can we just
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: stick to, like, the TV people that I.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Know who they are?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: But.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I figured she would do a different shtick now because
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it's been a long time when we all. You know
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: that Rose, he's not into Tom Cruise.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: But she's still doing cutie patootie and stuff. She did
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: it in the monologue. People like applauding. She goes, you know, Guillermo,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the sidekick. She goes, and look at you, Guillermo, cutie patootie.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: And people are like, yay, from 30 years ago. And
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: then she goes to the desk where she does her
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: celebrity interviews. And she's got like little dolls and koosh
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: balls and stuff.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Like from 30 years ago. And I'm like, come on.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I think we've all advanced as a society beyond that
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: corny shit. You know what I mean?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I saw a clip of Kathy Griffin talking directly
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to the camera. saying like, a lot of people have
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: been asking me when I'm going to be on this
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: week because Rosie and I are such good friends. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I am not going to be, and I'm pretty sad
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and bitter about it though. I want everyone to watch
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: her cause she's so great, but I really thought like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you know, but I guess she has no say or
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: maybe she does in putting who she wants on the show.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: And Kathy Griffin must know it's going to get like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: who's going to see it. Nobody's watching.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But also I'm just gonna, I kind of want to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that's Hollywood. Yeah. She's finally back on TV.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: You think she's going to push the agenda of having
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: someone that's, no offense, Kathy, like over having like an
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Alex Earl or somebody on that's going to bring in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the audience?
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: Uh-huh.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it was just kind of like, but
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I liked that she mentioned it and was like, yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't get asked to do it, but yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a couple of other people on
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: higher up on the totem pole than Kathy Griffin. Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But again, like, come on, have me on. We
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: both hate the same man. Like we could have so
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: much fun together. Let's go for it. Um, speaking of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Alex Earl, she has, you know, this is the biggest influencer, uh,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: You get, for people that don't follow this stuff, you're like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Alex Earl, Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper is Call Her Daddy.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And Alex Cooper was kind of the original. She found
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Alex Earl, who became famous by just doing these just
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: explosive TikToks while she was at the University of Miami
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of getting ready and all this stuff. And then she
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: was dating this cute football player named Braxton. And people
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: just fell in love with her.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: She had acne. That was a problem. She had some
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: acne issues. That was... I'm telling you, that's why she
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: became famous. She was dealing with acne and people were
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: drawn to that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Okay. The realness.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: She was like, I'm getting a boob job. Her body
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: is beyond banging. And then she has this interesting family.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So her parents... got divorced because her dad was having
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: an affair with her now stepmom, who was also previously
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: famous for having an affair with Eliot Spitzer, the governor
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of New York. Oh, yes. Yes. So it was found
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: out that he was using call girls. Yeah. And she
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was one of them. And she didn't crawl away. She
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was doing interviews. She was like, yeah, like, I'm a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: happy hooker. Like, who cares?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And then years pass and she and Alex's dad fall
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: in love. It's clear from the trailer. Yes, it was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: an affair. And the mom is also on the show
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: with her new husband. And she's like, yeah, was it
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: hard to hang out with the woman that broke up
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: my marriage? Yeah. Yeah. But we're all doing fine and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we're on a TV show. And then the new mom
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: has three kids. So she has three half siblings. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: then she has one full sister who's a brunette version
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of her. And that's the show, Earl Meets World.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Does anybody care about this? Like, am I crazy? Maybe
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I should care more about the Alex Earl and her family.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It's a huge fanbase. I don't know. I don't know
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that I'll be watching it, to be honest. I don't
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: really care. And it's like so many people are going
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to find out more about me. And I'm like, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: don't know how much more there is to find out
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: about you. Like you chronicle everything, except we're going to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: see like, you know, your funky brother and like, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: maybe the stepmom and bring up the fact that she
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was a hooker and it's fine. I mean, I'm like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I guess it's good that it's just out there. Like,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I guess if that's your... origin story you're like you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: know what let's just make money at it and put
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on a reality show because the kids are gonna know anyway.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah and she's like the get like for every party
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: i hear you know anything that was going on in
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the hamptons or this summer or it's like alex earl was.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: There like i mean it is really interesting imagine like
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: i don't think i know anybody that's like our age
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that's like yeah i always knew that my mom was
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like a high class hooker growing up and it was
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: totally fine It's just.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Something she did.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. Like, how can you, do you
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: tell your kids, like, this is why I want you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to have an education. Though she did have an education.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: She like went to college. It was just like, I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: don't know anybody else that's doing OnlyFans. It's like, well,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't really want to work in this
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: cubicle or I can like take photos of my garage.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: My mother would be the worst hooker, I think. She's just, oh, oh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: this room's too cold. It's too cold. Is there anybody
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: here to turn up the heat? And like, oh, the
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: guy would be like, are we going to do it
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: or what? Nobody, I wouldn't wish that upon anybody.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with hookers my whole life. Yeah. Since
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: my mom told me, well, you know, she sold her body,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you know, like when we're talking about like oldest profession
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: in the book, it's in the Bible. Yeah. Like as
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a kid at like Catholic school, you're reading about hookers.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: And in the 80s and 90s, a lot of movie,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of hooker movies. So many hooker movies.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And then of course, Pretty Woman is, you know, made
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it sound, glamorized it. Cause you're like, yeah, I want
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to stay at the Beverly Wilshire. I want to meet
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Richard Gere. But then when you really think about it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you're like, she was just sucking a dirty dick in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a car off of Hollywood Boulevard before she got to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the Beverly Wilshire.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: With Laura San Giacomo. Wasn't your friend, her girlfriend? Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Was that her last name? And then like the wig,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like and all that. But yeah, Anyway, yeah, maybe people want...
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I probably just got a lot of people to watch.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: It's good for her. But before Pretty Woman... She's a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: very likable character. And she is... There's a clip where she...
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: where you think she's going to say the truth of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: why she and Alex Cooper don't like each other anymore
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: because she was under Alex Cooper's podcast and then left.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And it was mostly like the dad was like, this
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: is a bad deal. And nobody ever knew what happened.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And there were people, Alex, most people were team Alex
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: or all just because they think she's like a sweeter,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: nicer personality.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And of course, Alex Cooper is still more popular than
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: she or richer or whatever. And I'm like, just sometimes
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: deals don't work out. Like, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Whatever it was. She wasn't good at doing the podcasting.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: She's better at doing this.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Who knows what it was. I saw the Dave Portnoy
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: guy who was, you know, basically started all that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And he was... His take on it was Alex Earle
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: didn't need... At that point, she was already big enough
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: that she didn't need Alex Cooper anymore. So the deal
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: should have never happened in.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: The first place. Or like, when you're that big, you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: doing an hour podcast... Yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Which now.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You know, like you can do a funny clip or
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a pretty clip with your perfect body while you're getting
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: ready and get 5 million views and not one is negative.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And they're just like, I love that fit. Your abs
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: are killing me. You're so cute. Have the best time tonight. Okay.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Or you can go to the unwell production offices and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: sit down and have them go, hey, your last interviews
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: were really dull.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: You need to do your prep work and you need
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to read these five ads and do them over again.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: And....
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: You know, read the comments and the comments are like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, like this was so boring. Her voice
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is annoying. Like we've already heard from this person before.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Why is she getting leftover interviewees? And she's probably like, well,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: this is kind of hurting my mental health and it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: makes me not want to dance around in a bikini anymore.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And that's what gets 5 million views. So goodbye to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the podcast. It's not for everybody.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Don't ever stop dancing in a bikini. That's, I think
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: it's a good tip for everybody.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, agree yeah why do you have to where why
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: do you have to go put on sweats and headphones
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: right when you should just be dancing on a yacht
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in a bikini and alice.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Cooper's gone it's like full mommy podcast now have.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: You seen it well she's about to give birth.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I know but still i.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And she's she she did a smart thing with all
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: her millions because she they were getting a lot of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: negative press that he was like you know a dick
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to work for yeah And then their unwell drink folded,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: which was at Target and different places.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: It was water, right?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It was like a, I understood it as like a
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Pedialyte when you're hungover.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Or like a dehydration drink.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It didn't last very long. I feel like it
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: just came out.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Right. And so it didn't work.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: But their partner was like Pepsi-Cola. So like there was
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: probably a reason where just the numbers just didn't work out.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: It doesn't show anything. You know, what does she know about? drinks,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you know? And so anyway, it folded. So I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in just to get any conversation to stop, she did
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a really nice thing where she's like, I'm going to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: pay for mother's registries for their babies. I'm going to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: get your baby registry, send them to me, you know?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So she's doing a very generous thing and, and, You know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: so she's got a lot of money. But then, of course,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: there's people like, well, I haven't gotten mine paid for yet.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: You know, like, all right. I've been listening to Alex
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Cooper since she and Sophia were talking about sucking dicks.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, blowjobs and stuff.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Two in a day.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Where's mine? I could use some diapers, bitch.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, God, I can't do everybody. Can't get.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Everybody.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. The Chris Hansen movie is coming out on Paramount +.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: And Robert Pattinson.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the trailer? Robert Pattinson, yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Excellent actor. Oh, my God.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: It looks so.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: He embodies him.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And from what my understanding is, Chris Hansen does not
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: have any part of it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So in this interview, they were like, how are you
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: feeling about it? And he's like, yeah, I'm guessing maybe
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: it's not going to make me look that great. Because
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: this interviewer brought up this point that was like, What
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you did to catch a predator and everything. now, almost
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: 20 years later, sex trafficking and child pedophilia is like
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: worse than ever.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: So it actually didn't do any good. And if anything,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: do you think you piqued more of an interest in
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: people that do it the wanting to know what kind
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: of people do it, like what, you know? And he's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: kind of just like, well, I mean, obviously, I mean,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's like, well, no, that was never my intention.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: My intention was to catch people doing it, humiliate them
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and make people stop doing it or thinking of doing
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it because you might get caught. I mean, I think
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the intention was great, but I mean, we did a
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: sketch at Chelsea Lately to catch a little person. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: think I pitched it. And cause I was obsessed with
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the show. And we literally had a thing. We, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: remember the house that we went to, it was like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: off of like, we were in the West side. So
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it was a little house on the West side that
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: would like, it was somebody's house that we were able
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to use. It would be like low budget. And, um,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and I think Chelsea was supposed to be like the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Chris Hansen character. And so somebody would like, just like that, like,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you know, Oh, Hey, you know, I wanted to meet
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a little person. And then Chewy comes and the guy
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: is like, yeah, let's hang out, whatever. And then, um,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: then Chewy leaves and then Chelsea comes in and she's like, Hey,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: sick fuck. Like.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Why don't you have a seat?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: With, with the yellow, yellow, um, folded iPad, not iPad,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the yellow papers. And, um, So, yeah, I mean, it
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: became a joke. It became in the zeitgeist and all
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: What I'm gathering from the trailer, it seems, and this
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: just could be something that I just see, it seems
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: that they get to the point where it's such a
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: hit that they show this in the trailer. It's like
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: a network executive going, okay, it's such a hit. We
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: need it on every night, prime time. That's the name
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: of the movie. It's called Prime Time. And it looks
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: as if they begin to start casting it. Because they
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: have a kid in the trailer. And he's like, what
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: am I doing? He goes, you're playing a part of
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: a child molester. So I think that's where he gets
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: into trouble. Because later, in the later episodes, I believe
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: they began casting it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: What I also recall is that there were, it became,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and my sister, a criminal defense attorney, I remember I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: spoke to her about it. It really verged on entrapment. Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And so there was that. And then I want to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: say of some of these quote unquote alleged predators, like
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: suicide happened with that person after ending their life and everything,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: because not only are you caught in this way, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: see them doing it like online a lot where people
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: are just taking it into their own. They're just doing
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this on their own and they're like going up And
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they're like making the guy call his wife and say, yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I was trying to.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: In Walmart and stuff.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And they're like, and she's like, what's going on? And
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: he's like, um, I was trying to meet a 14
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: year old. What? Yeah. I was trying to meet a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: 14 year old just to like talk to them. And
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a 14 year old. And I just, I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: had to call and tell your wife what else? And
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, like I, I did an interview actually, Drake,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: we have to look this up. Because maybe this would
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: be a good one to just throw on. I interviewed
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: him like seven years ago, Chris Hansen.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: On Juicy Scoop?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And asking all about it and what happened. Because
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: he definitely like, there was a big slump in his
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: career after that. Because it was like, this is all
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you are known for. And then because of these things
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: that happened that he was accused of.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's still slumping. He's doing, he does Blue
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Chew commercials now. Blue Chew? The dick pill. Is your
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: dick soft? Wouldn't it be hard again?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: He does.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not kidding.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: That seems like that wouldn't be a good branding pairing.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I know, but he does Bluetooth commercials on Facebook. I've
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: seen them.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Well, if you don't, if you can't get hard. Oh,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: my God. Well, then I remember I saw him like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: at Craig's one night with his wife.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And. You know, I was like, yeah, come back on
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the show. But I was like, what else are we
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: going to talk? Like, I already got your life story.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: You know, now, of course, I'd like to have him
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: come back on once this gets out.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure he'll come out and pitch.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: But I also think the way I remember it starting
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: is that, and that's what I think we'll find out.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember if this is from my interview
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But it was just kind of like a
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: producer's idea of. to do this as like a segment.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Of- It was a segment on 2020 or whatever it was.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Dateline, Dateline.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: It was just a segment.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was just a small segment. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: remember the first one. It was a rabbi that was
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the first guy who got busted.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: And then I remember another guy.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: The girl said- Where are they now? Hi, everybody. Where
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: do you have a fun show?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I was always a little worried.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Where are they now that were featured- on the first
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and second season of To Catch a Predator.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I was always a little more waited out by the
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: weirdos up in the room on the computer and the
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: girl who would put on a, you know, be the
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: young girl. And she was in reality like 25, but
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: she had like, I don't know, an overactive thyroid or something.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: So she spoke with a high voice and coming down
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: in a second. That you'd put on a face full of.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. and i'm just gonna go get um i'm gonna
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: go change in my bathing suit okay how you doing
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: then he comes in how you doing you're like oh
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: no nodding i knew this was too good to be
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: true and one time when something's too good to be
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: true believe it she said.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Bring m & ms the girl you know like bring
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: m & ms and the guy shows up she goes
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: to bring the m & ms he taps his pocket
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: like did i yeah You're going to have to work
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: for those. It was fun to watch. I mean, I
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: know it's a dark subject, but it was fun to watch.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: The thing is that you never knew where are they now.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Because of the way the internet was and stuff, it
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't like we could immediately find out, hey, what happened
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: with that rabbi? Did he get off because it was entrapment?
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Did they never follow up? Because no crime was done. Right.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: You know, was that because he just was talking to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the person who showed up, no crime was done. Right. Right.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Like you could talk to somebody and yeah, you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they're 14. You can, an adult can talk to a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: 14 year old. They can go meet them. It's not
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a crime to go meet somebody.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: He used to say that. He used to say, you're
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: free to go. and they would walk outside in the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: early days i think they would just leave but then
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the cops were involved and they remember the guy would
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: dress like a bush in our episode i'm running i
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: dress like a bush.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: In our episode we had a couple of the other
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: people like look like cops and yeah the guy.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Right like on the lawn in culver city i would
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: i would die to see that sketch right now.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I bet someone can find it it's very you know
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: what it might It was so like first season.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I remember.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: It might not have been on YouTube. But okay. So also,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: are you excited about the movie about the Beatles coming out?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I cannot be. It's not only about the Beatles. It's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: a different movie about each Beatle. So every Beatle gets
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: their own movie. There are four movies.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: There's a Paul McCartney movie, a Ringo Starr movie, a
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: John Lennon movie, and a George Harrison movie.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: And they're doing all the movies at the same time
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: because there's some parts where they need all four of
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: them together?
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I think so, yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: What a way to milk it out and get a
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: ton of acting days.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: For Beatles fans, it's the greatest thing ever.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Well, who isn't a Beatles fan? If you don't know
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the story, it really is. And what great music and everything. Now,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: didn't Michael Jackson buy the Beatles catalog? Yeah.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, parts of it. He bought some Paul McCartney stuff.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: He did have the Beatles catalog for a minute. I
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: think Paul McCartney wound up buying it back.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: So, you know, of course, some people are in the comments.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: They don't look like them. Well, guess what? They're not them. Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: It's called acting.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I think they look.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: It's called acting.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: They got them down pretty good.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but, like, it shouldn't be about... First of all,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: anyone going to the movie, most of the people don't remember...
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: The Beatles. They're just like, oh, I want to hear
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: about the Beatles because I've heard about it. They're not
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: going to be like, you know what? Barry's eye shape
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: is not the same as Ringo Starr. Yeah, as Ringo Starr. Like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, who cares?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Like, what are you going to do? It's good enough.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: There's also Bradley Cooper is, I think, directing, maybe he's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: in it too, but he's directing the Ocean's Eleven prequel
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: in Paris. Oh, yeah. So it's a prequel.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Wow, we're going back to that?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: So now they can get... They don't need the same
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: people or anything, I don't think. Because it's like we're
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: going to... This is us 20 years younger.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Becoming, you know, sophisticated criminals or whatever.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, so they have to do like young versions of
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Brad Pitt and George Clooney?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That's what I think.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Which is kind of smart.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: They get a whole bunch of people.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And how they met, how they became such good friends.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: All those movies.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like those movies.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I like the first one. With the music and the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: narration and, you know, and then... So-and-so was a person
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that did, did, did, did.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, they're in the, they're like just
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: folding napkins in the hotel.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, when it got to like 14 and 15,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I was kind of done with it. But the first
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: one's great.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And then there was the one with all girls.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Ocean's eight, I think it was called. Yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. Um, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: advised to disappear professionally after latest business fail to salvage reputation.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just an opinion piece, but you know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the executive produced also not cookie stuffing, but they crumble
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the cookie, not the crumble cookies that people also say
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: have too much sugar, but the Girl Scout cookies. This
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: has not been a good week for cookies.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: And it was in the theaters. Like it came out
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: in the movie theaters.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Who the fuck's going to go see that?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I said. I'm like, it's really their fault. Like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: first of all, little girls aren't going to want to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: see the documentary about how the cookies got made. Like,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: already they have to stand out in front of, like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: dispensaries to try to sell the cookies to stoners, like,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: in their outfits with their mother. And then, like, an
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: older Girl Scout, who cares?
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Like, do you really care that, like?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Are there like 30 year olds that are like, I'm
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a proud Girl Scout? No, they're like, oh yeah, we
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: had to do that. Yeah. Anyway, I still don't know
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen with them. And I worry about
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it every day. Do you? Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've given it some thought, but I think
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: they'll be fine. I think they're going to be fine.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Comes back, makes up with his brother, starts to be
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a fun uncle. The kids are all, the grandkids are
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: all hanging out, the cousins.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody would be like, great. Harry and his brother start
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a podcast. That's the only podcast that's ever going to
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: work for Harry and Meghan is if Harry and William
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: start a podcast. William and Harry podcast.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that idea. But what are you going
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: to do with her? Like I've said it on here,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I think, before. Saturday Night Live is the only way
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: she could maybe save her career. If she goes on
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Saturday Night Live and kind of makes fun of it all,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I feel like it would almost humanize her in a
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: way that she hasn't been at all, I think. And
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I think that's the problem. She's getting too far away
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: where there's no, you don't even know who she is anymore.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I think the only way is if she really does
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: create some line of clothing or skincare or she hooks
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: up with some like unique patent, That is like really good.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And you're like, you know what? And it's not to
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: jam and it's not, you know, a cotton t-shirt. Like
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it's gotta be something special. And then you're like, oh
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: my God, like she created the cure of cancer. Like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: it's gotta be something that's just like.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Like they do over at Target. Like that woman from,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: you know, she has her own line. Over there.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Joanna Gaines. I could do a Meghan Markle. A couple
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: of candles.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think it should be a whole lot. Like maybe.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: It could be like clothing or something. It's just got
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to be like where you're like almost like Jessica Simpson.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Get the shoes.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The shoes are well priced.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: They are always cute and they're supposedly like very comfortable.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And it's like we don't care if she shows up fat,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: thin or high anymore. Right. We don't care if she's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: an alcoholic or not. We don't care if she gets
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: divorced or not. People like the shoes and they're still
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: going to buy the shoes.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Is she still in the shoes?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still Justin Simpson shoes. And that's why she's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: like a billionaire and it doesn't matter if she wants
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to get back to singing or not. We're like, do
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: whatever you want because the shoes are still good. That's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: what she has to do. She has to find something
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that's like the product speaks for itself and it doesn't
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: really matter if you were a fan of hers or
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: if you thought that you know, she was a bitch
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: or that she didn't appreciate being a princess. You're just like,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I like that. That's the only thing.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I like that one. I like that fix.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: But I think the more, the more realistic thing is
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that she'll just go do some hosting or reality show
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: type of thing that won't pay enough for her to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: live in Santa Barbara.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: It's beneath her, I believe. I wouldn't do that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: If I were a publicist. She just did a judging,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: but that was a one-off in Australia. And she did
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: that thing that they teach you to do when you're
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a host to go like this, to hold your hands
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: like this, like just, just the tips.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: When she was standing up or she's sitting at a desk. Yeah.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And then somebody caught her in one of the, you
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: know how people are just obsessed with catching her lies. Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Cause she always says like, you know, I, I've been
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: working since I was, you know, nine and my, you know,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I came from humble beginnings and my mother worked and
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: she was getting her graduate degree. And my father was
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: on the set here and I was a latchkey kid
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and did it. That's like one story. And then this one,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: when she was doing the cooking thing, she was like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: we were always just a farm to table family. And
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: making our own fruits and vegetables and creating unique snacks
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: for when I came home from school. It's like, what?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You also said you like worked at your grandfather's like
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: hardware store. Like there were so many stories and people
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: are just like, just create some product with someone.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Speaking of being judges on shows like she was, have
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: you heard anything about the Howie Mandel show? what the
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: controversy with Howie Mandel.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I did see that clip. Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: The clip of him talking about getting happy ending hand jobs.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I was shocked by that. So I saw that clip.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: You know, he's had a podcast for a while with
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: his daughter. Yeah. And they had some other girl on that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like the girl, the guest was, is she
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: like a pretty OnlyFans person?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: That's what it said. I heard that she was an
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: OnlyFans person. She was the guest. Yes. And I don't
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: know how it got to that point in the conversation,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: but he begins to tell her that he gets hand
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: jobs at this place. He was a tuggy-tuggy. Tuggy-tuggy, that's
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: what he says.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And he's very nonchalant.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I feel like it's a bullshit story. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like he was just looking for, because he
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: says $ 25, which that's not the case. And then he
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: says he wanted a massage afterwards, which, and then the
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: girl actually says, she goes, well, that's not how it works.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Happy ending is the ending. It's not the beginning. So
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: all of it seemed like, but the more interesting part,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: it was after that, Him and his daughter start talking
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: about something. She says something along the lines of, see
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: the dad I had? He gets hand-jobbed or something. And
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: then he goes, you're a bitch. Did you see that part?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: And then it got kind of weirdly real. I feel
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: the first part.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Well, then the girl was like, oh, my God.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you're a bitch to his daughter. Now that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you say it all. I think this was all fake.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: It's totally fake.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: To get people to talk about his dumb talk show.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Because I'm like, first of all, you are in charge
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So you could have cut it out. Yeah. Even if
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you didn't cut this, you know someone's going to cut
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: that clip. So you wanted it to get out so
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that people would be like, I need to go look
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: at this show because people aren't listening enough or whatever.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone's like, really? The guy that's a germaphobe
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: is going to like.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: A That's what I've been seeing a lot of people saying.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: A strip mall, and he's been married for 48 years,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and he's saying this in front of his daughter. Right.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: But then, yeah, this can go viral, and then you go,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, that was all a joke.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, he'll come out in the next couple of days
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: and say something like that. Because also, I feel like
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the guy's got a legitimate job at NBC. I feel
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: like that could be in jeopardy if you really were
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: going out there getting hand jobs for $ 25. You know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: the thing is.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: With podcasting is... It really is supposed to be a
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: flowing conversation. Right. This isn't, you know, a set interview
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: where a publicist is standing over there and this and that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And there was this other Secret Lives of Mormon Wife girl, Jessie,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and I saw, oh my God, she's removed her Instagram
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: since this other person found an old clip of a
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: podcast she did. Right. Where she was saying she was
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: got her like vagina worked on. Oh. Or like, you know,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: some people have whatever.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe a little outie situation down there and you can
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: easily get it taken care of. So she's talking about
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: it with somebody and she goes, and now I look
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: down there and I'm like, oh my God, I look
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: like my daughter. Okay. It was like, okay. So not
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the great, not the greatest thing to say, but you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: know what? You would say that at lunch with to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: your girlfriend. You would. And if you really are being
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: authentic in a reality show or on a podcast and
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: you're talking to a girl that you're vibing with now, listen,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: You know, when I do my podcast, I say, if
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: you want something cut out, I will cut it out.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to ruin your life. Have you wake
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: up at three in the morning, stressed about it? Just
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: tell me. And not often, we almost don't edit anything. Yeah.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: And you, I cannot say, I don't think you've ever
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: said cut something out. Never. Do not give a shit.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Why would I cut anything out?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: But I've had a couple of people that are like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you know what? Actually, that one thing. Yeah. Or, you know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: No problem.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: No problem. I don't question it. I don't fight for it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no problem. So she left. She didn't think
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: about it. I don't know that they made that a clip.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Somebody heard it. And now they're like, let me set
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: out to ruin Jesse's life.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Of course it's, but like, again, you weren't, you, you
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? This wasn't 12 steps where you
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: were like, yes, I want to keep that thing in
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: with my daughters. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I want
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: people to visualize my daughter. Like you didn't. And obviously like,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that we're in this world where everybody's saying,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: be authentic, be authentic, be authentic, be on the fly.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Don't be rehearsed. And it's like, sometimes stuff like that happens. Okay.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: You told me.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: About this movie. Tell me about this movie that's out.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Okay. I was talking a little bit about it on
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: my podcast. But anyway, okay.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Cover to cover podcast.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Cover to cover, everybody.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Cover to cover, yeah.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: It came out a few weeks ago. It didn't do
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: very well at the box office. So that is out.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: It's in the theaters if you want to go see it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: The one guy, it's Callum Turner, who is married to
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Dua Lipa. Okay. Semi-interesting. And this girl is Monica Barbaro.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Good actors. And I think she dates Andrew Garfield. That
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the story. But you see
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: the trailer for the movie and you see the posters
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: like you see right now. And it just looks like
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: a regular romantic comedy. But then I somehow started reading
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: about what it's about. And it's, which I think is strange,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: but also sounds more interesting now. It's like that movie,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: The Purge, where they are free to commit any crime
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: they want to within 24 hours. So this movie, everybody
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: gets 12 hours to fuck whoever they want without, whether
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: you're married or together.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: But is it consensual?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Consensual, yes.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the consensual?
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, good.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: So I guess everybody has some sort of chip on
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: them in this movie and they turn it off from
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: 7 p.m. to 7 a.m., and everyone gets 12 hours
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: to fuck whoever they want.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And what happens nine months later? Who knows whose kids
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: he's on?
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Anyway, the interesting part to me was that's never even
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: mentioned at all in any of the trailers or anything.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the whole plot.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: So you saw it?
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't see the movie. I just happened to read
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: this yesterday, the synopsis of the movie. And I'm like, well,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: now it sounds much more interesting. So whoever promoted this
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: movie was an idiot because... Now I want to see it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Where can you see it?
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: It's in theaters.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I guess it takes place in New York City.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: It does look like it's in the future. You know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: it looks like modern day. But they have chips where
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: they get to fuck anybody they want. Right.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And you always are like, yeah, how did this get started?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Because usually in future movies, everyone has to wear the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Which I was always like, why in future movies, everyone
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: wearing like gray.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Gray, like zips up to there. Yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you saying? Like fashion just goes
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: away when like the regime from another planet comes into play.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: And the other one, when it really gets, when like
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: a nuclear bomb hits, there's only a few people left.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: For some reason, everyone's wearing shoulder pads, like quarterback shoulder pads. What?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: How is that protecting you?
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Why did that happen to everybody? Um, anyway, it's always
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: very interesting. So I just thought that was interesting. Also,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: the other thing that interests you about it, which I
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: don't know if you've heard, but she's actually getting legitimate
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: work now. She's in this movie and a couple of
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: other like good movies is that girl who used to
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: date Kanye West. The crazy one who wears wacky outfits.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, Julia Fox, the white girl.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: She's in what movie?
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: She's in this movie.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: And has like a legitimate part and has a few
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: other movies coming out, like almost like Oscar style.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I have to say, I have enjoyed not being every
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: third article being about Julia Fox. There was a time
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: where it was like, oh my God, like TMZ and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Page Six, do you have anybody else to report on?
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just thought that was interesting to talk about.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I know earlier when we were trying to discuss topics,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: we had a couple of dark topics.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I just realized? Julia Fox is kind
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: of like the Sandra Bernhardt of our day.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Like, remember there was, like, a surge of Sandra Bernhardt,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and she was just everywhere, and then she was, like,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Madonna's first, like, lesbian friend.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And then she just, like, kind of disappeared, but then
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: she still, like, has a tune and will show up
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: in things.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I think Julia... I think we're done. I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: think Julia Fox will... legit like work and still be
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: like a person with an interesting opinion yeah but i
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: think the amount that she was thrown at us i
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna have to suffer like that again okay.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: That's good i'm happy with that yeah um anyway uh
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: so while we uh we could talk about the dark
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: topics if you want because i oh you can ask
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: me i'm interested about the one about the woman who's
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: been thrown.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me what's your question about it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know anything about it, as a matter
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: of fact. I mean, of course, I've heard the names,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: and I see little snippets on the internet.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: But from your snippets, because you don't know about it,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I just want you to just ask me, because I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: have talked about it a lot, and there was an
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: episode out yesterday, Juicy Crimes, where we really cover all
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories of Of it. So you ask me
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and I'll answer.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Here's what I do know.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I believe the trial has just begun. That's what I've heard.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: It's been a couple weeks.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Okay. And the woman is paralyzed from.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: From the waist down.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: From the waist down.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy, who is on trial for killing her children.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Three of them. And then after she killed the children,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: this is what I know. So it was just nothing.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: And she jumped out the window. That's what they say.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: And from that, she's paralyzed from the waist down. Yes. Okay.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: And the husband is now where... Is he scot-free?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: So this is what's so interesting about it in a nutshell,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: which is like why someone like you would be like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that isn't all up in it and why it's just fascinating.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: So we hear about this horrible tragedy that was told
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to us through the press and everything that this is
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: what happened. This woman suffered horribly from postpartum. But the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: prosecutor believes that no, she knew what she was doing
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: and it was premeditated on her part.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: She wanted to end her children's life on her own
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: and she sent him off to do these errands so
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: that she could be alone with the kids and do this.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. So that's what they're saying. Her defense is saying, no,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: she is innocent by reason of insanity and she was
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: on 13 medications and she tried to get help and
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: she was in and out of places and she was
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: hearing voices and all of this. And so you jury
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: were asking you to find her, um, innocent by reason
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: of sanity, where she will go to, um, a, you know,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: a psych ward, which is where she's been for the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: last three years and stay there until she gets better,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: which could be three years from now in which she
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: could get out.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: If she actually stabilizes, gets better and is no longer insane,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have to stay there or she stays for
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the rest of her life. The other side is saying, no,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: she should go to a regular prison because she's not crazy.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So then the trial starts.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: So, okay. Now let me stop you there.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: So in any of that, so that seemed the trial
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: is anybody, any lawyer going, has anybody looked into the husband?
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: That's all I keep hearing.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. Nobody is. Nobody is. So as we're watching it
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: on court TV, which actually Drake asked me a question.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to it. I'm sure Juicy
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Scooper does. Why are there some trials that we can
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: watch on court TV every minute, every day?
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: And why do some not, are not allowed?
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I believe I could be wrong, but I believe it's
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: up to the judge.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought too.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: The judge can allow cameras or not.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: So do you have a thirsty judge?
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: That'd like to be famous?
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Like OJ?
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Judge Ito.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Judge Ito was super thirsty. He loved it. And, um,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: you know, how they decide, well, this is should, you know,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: this is juicy enough or interesting enough or, or no,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: we're going to protect because the main witness is a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: 10 year old girl or something, you know, like maybe
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: those are the ones that don't make it. So people
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: are able to watch this from home and, you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: and women that have, that are mothers that have been
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: with a narcissistic husband that have maybe suffered from postpartum
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: and they really start watching and it's them that who
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: start making their own content to go wait a minute
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: with this timeline. Yeah. Why wasn't the husband looked at more?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like with the Karen Reid case, okay,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: there were some legit wonky things that didn't make sense,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: hence why she got off.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: This is like 10 times that. Okay. This is so
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: many things. And one is he married Karen.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: See, I didn't know that. I learned that just before
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: we came to air.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: So this happened three years ago.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: He's now of his new wife.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So this happened three years ago and he married his
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: new wife in April.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Knowing that this trial was coming, you kind of are like, oh, okay.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I wonder why they did it then or why they'd wait.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Some people feel it has to do with if they
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: were ever put on trial after this. Now, in the very,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: very rare cases where in– In doing a trial they
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: kind of hint that maybe there could be somebody else
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: that could have done this Yeah, and they and like
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: they'll sort of be like where we don't know where
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: the sister was during this time or whatever But then
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it would take the prosecutor to then go.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: We lost this case The person that was in trial
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: is innocent, but I am gonna look into this other
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: person Oftentimes, hey, it's a job. It's over with we lost. Goodbye, right,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't enough there so that could happen
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: but I mean, if the jury has access to TikTok, okay.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't see how you could do anything,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: but innocent by reason of insanity. She is insane, but
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: it could also be like, we don't think she did it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: They don't think she did it. They think that this
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: was now premeditated that, uh, there's now evidence that just
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: happened in the last 24 hours that, um, A really
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: great content creator that I don't have on the top
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: of my head has come up with... And this girl
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: only has like.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Fitted Prof was on my show, but there's another girl
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: that only has like 13,000 people. And I mean, the stuff.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: That she's coming up with... Is premeditated by the husband
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: or premeditated by the.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Premeditated by the husband. So now they're like, could this
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: be premeditated?
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: So.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of evidence that he knew
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: his wife, second wife, while he was with his current wife.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: There's a photo of them back with two other people
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: at like a dinner out before he ever married Lindsay,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: wife number one.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So it's like, was he originally in love with the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: current wife, Rachel?
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Something happened. They couldn't make, they couldn't be in love.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Then he found Lindsay, who looks so much like her.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And he was always sort of pining for Rachel. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: then somehow they meet up again. They did both did
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: marathons right after she, um, right after the tragedy, he
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: was in Costa Rica. This content creator found a girl
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: that was like, I'm in Costa Rica during that time
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: in that girl's photo was Rachel. And that's the same
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: week he was also in Costa Rica.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: So like, who plans a trip to Costa Rica? You know,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a big deal. And she's a medical doctor.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: So it's just a coincidence that three weeks or a
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: couple months, it's a very short time, after the murders,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: he went to Costa Rica and this girl, that he
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: used to know that, you know, that lives in New York,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: which is where he was going to New York all
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the time, where he was looking to get an apartment
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: for a one bedroom apartment in New York before the murders,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: took a job in New York before the murders. Like
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: there's just a lot of that. And then the timeline
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: of the night, there's a lot of questions. His outfit
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: changed in between two errands. Did he run home and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: do something in between?
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Is there security footage of that?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: There's security footage. There's times. The temperature of her body
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have been that low with the timeline. Was she
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: out there for several hours? Yeah, there was an Apple Watch.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Did he take the Apple Watch from her? Was he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: wearing the Apple Watch to look like there was activity
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: when in fact there wasn't? there's a lot of theories
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: of what could have happened if it's not what they
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: are telling us. That it's, she lost her mind, did
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: this horrible thing, and then tried to off herself. And
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: then he came home from doing the errands, found her,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: called the police. So that is what it is. And
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, in talking about it, I've said like, Imagine if,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: you know, this isn't at all true. Everything you've said
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: is true as Patrick. You were lucky enough to fall
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: in love with this girl that you met a long
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: time ago. A lot of people meet up with their
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: old high school sweetheart, whatever. Nothing was going on before.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, we're in love and we have
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: a great and we're going to get through this trial
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: and then we hope that she gets the help she needs.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: He's also suing the medical profession. He also started a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: nonprofit for his kids where he's receiving all the money.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, so he's made money off of this. He's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: still gotten a job. He also was a sailor. And
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: one thing that people said was, were there sailor knots
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: on these bands that choked the children? And we looked
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: it up and there isn't any proof that they were
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: sailor knots.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Because that was one of the things. Because she's not
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: a sailor, she's a nurse.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: But then the way she cut her wrists in her
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: suicide attempt is not the way you would do it
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: to be the most successful. And she's a nurse and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: he's not.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: So did he do it the wrong way? And he
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: just comes off... There's facts that he was not an
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: attentive husband. He was going on ski trips. By himself
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: or with the oldest daughter, leaving the two little ones
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: with her.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: How old were the kids?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Five, three, and eight months. She still had to work
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: as a nurse in the beginning of their family while
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: he made $ 400, 000. Why did she have to work? She
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: drove an old Kia. You know, like he was going
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: to brunch with his friends. He would like leave her.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And then she said, I always heard a man. I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: had heard a man's voice in my head telling me
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to do things. But she only heard those voices at
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: home when she was in her mental hospital before she
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: didn't hear the voices. When she was after the murder,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: she never heard the voices again.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: So he was somehow.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Was he the voice?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Whispering in her ears.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Was he the voice?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: So it really plays out like a crazy movie. And
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: other people are like, oh my God, these crazy white
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: women on the internet with their conspiracy theories. But it's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: not just like one or two things. Yeah. And so
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: then the thought is, does Reddington, which is this older
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: attorney that everyone loves because he's so loving towards her,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: his client, is he... is he knowing that this, is
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: he putting it all out there for the public and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: for the jury to go, listen, we're not saying he
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: did it, but we definitely aren't a hundred percent. She
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: did it. So we will definitely not side with the prosecution.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: And that, that is, I mean, his goal is that she,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: because like I said, in three and also her being
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: in a wheelchair is very, it makes her very sympathetic.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people think it's really weird that
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: all these women and mothers are are like have sympathy
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: for her, but they have sympathy for her, for what
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: she went through. But they, but the bigger story is
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: that they don't even know, think that she did it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: And that's what the conversations are about, but they're really
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: all only on, I mean, you're not really seeing it though.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I did just see TMZ just posted something. Cause TMZ
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: is now like going, okay, everyone's talking about this. We
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: better talk about it too. TMZ just posted like the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: two of them, Patrick and his new wife, Rachel. at
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: some restaurant or a balcony or something in New York City.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And it's like, looks like they had a heated argument,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and it didn't look like they had a heated.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Argument, whatever.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my God. Oh, and then her father-in-law,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: so her father, Rachel, wife number two's dad, has these connections.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: He's like a billionaire and he has these connections to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Seagram's And the family that runs Seagram's, he's in business
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: with this person.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And the two women that were part of Nexium that
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: like gave all their money, these two sister heirs.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Of Seagram's. So that's like weird. Okay. But that's just
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: a weird coincidence.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: But just that she comes from a lot of money
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: and she's a doctor and she's a fertility doctor and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: all these things. But like, I mean- We don't know
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: where she was that night. I would think that someone
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: would be able to figure out.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Second wife.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Second wife. Was she anywhere near Boston that night or not?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, the conspiracy theories go really, really far and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: really dark. And then there's ones that are just like,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: he pushed her to do it or he actually did it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: And threw her out a window or something.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Pushed her out the window and that's why she... Like
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the way she, yeah, the way she went wouldn't be
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the way, but I'm like, all these things are like,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: you know, again, you don't know when you're, how many
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: times has this happened in the history of, you know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: and then all women are more likely to end their
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: children's lives this way.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: You know, and not the way that happened with them.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like what way?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. Like I've heard that too about
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: like women ending their lives that they're, they never, shoot
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: themselves and that's not true. They do, but it's less likely,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, it's more like, Oh, a drowning
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: or smothering for the kids is more likely than what
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: happened here, which was like strangulation. I mean, you know,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: then you look at the girl that, um, wanted to
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: be with her boyfriend and she put the kids in
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: the car and push the car down the lake. Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: That girl. Yeah. She wasn't postpartum. She wasn't anything. She
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: literally ended her kid's life because she wanted to start
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a new life.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: And I think most people agree that is not what
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: she was trying to do because she was trying to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: end her life too. So there's a sympathy there. She wasn't,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: she didn't do this to like go become a dancer. She's,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you know, in a wheelchair and you know has nothing
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: she has no home she has no kids she has
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: no husband she's seeing her husband sit on the stand
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: but everyone thought the husband was so great because right
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: off the bat he was like i forgive her yeah
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: i forgive her please show her some grace but i
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: thought he was doing that because he immediately fired a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: lawsuit against the medical professioners to be like it's your
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: fault that she that she got to this place to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: do this tragedy so therefore i should benefit from this
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: because I don't have my kids anymore and it's your fault.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: And the only way that works is if you forgive
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: your wife because she is innocent. So he, he is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: on the stand telling a story, but his, um, he
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: stands with, you know, I know, I think she's insane
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and she did it and she doesn't deserve to go
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: to prison. Wow.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Now I'm going to follow the story more.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: The Hayden, uh, penitent. That is, um, We're just talking
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: about some sadder things. So she had this boyfriend, Brian Hickerson.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: The one who was with her when it happened.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: He also, I guess, assaulted her in 2020.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a scumbag. I've heard.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So she was back with him.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: And apparently his brother found her at their place or
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: her place and he was there. He was sleeping and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: she was there.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just sounds like a really bad situation.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: And then... So she really definitely struggled with drugs and things.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: And then there's a real housewife of Beverly Hills, former
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: person that.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Who had the yacht, right?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: They think that it was her that did the yacht story,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: but then they're like, no, it wasn't her. It was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: somebody else.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: But this real housewife, former real housewife is.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Very Diana Jenkins.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Diana Jenkins. She is very wealthy and very likely to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: sue people that say anything negative about her. So it
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: is in the news now. They're photographed a lot together,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: which doesn't mean anything. Um, but she was accused of doing,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: you know, stuff like this in the past by crazy
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: days and nights person. And she went after them and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I think she prevailed in suing them.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Who's Crazy Day of the Night.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: It's like an anonymous website of like made up stories
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: or not made up stories.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Isn't there a chapter in her book, but she doesn't
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: mention Diane Jenkins.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: She never says that. names and people are like, why
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: don't you say the name? Because like you could be sued,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: you could have to fight for it. So it's like,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: you know, so that, that was in there. Um, I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: want to end on like a funny thing. It's also terrible.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: There is this thing. I don't know if you've noticed it.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: It's really one guy started, I don't know his name,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: but I feel like other people are doing it now.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And it's just, it's unbelievable. And it's basically people taking movies,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: full blown movies from 25 to maybe 30 years ago
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: is kind of the golden age of these horrific movies
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: that you cannot believe that someone like, like, like racist, inappropriate, uh,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: like assaulting and, uh, but it's like seen as funny,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: but today it would be like complete assault.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: And then like walking through the movie, talking about it,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: showing scenes and making like a tick talk about it.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: And you just cannot believe that these movies were made.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So this one, Marie Johnson posted it. I don't know
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: if it's her work or if she reposted who put
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: this whole thing together, but it's called Crippen Doff's Tribe,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: and it's with Richard Dreyfuss and Jenna Elfman. Oh, wow.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: What a cast. And this is, yeah, I don't know
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: if I've seen this.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: This is a full-blown movie. Yeah. Okay.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: What year?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Can you look up what year this was?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Crippen Doff's Tribe.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, the two guys, you hear the narration
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: of the two guys like in a podcast basically talking
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: about it, but then they show scenes of this movie
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: that existed. So Richard Dreyfuss is a widow with two
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: young boys and a teenage daughter. Who's the poker face girl, Leon?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that stars in poker face.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: It's 98.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: 98.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. So yeah, less than 25 years ago. Right? No.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: How many years are we into? Yeah, I said exactly right.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: 25 to 30. Okay. So anyway, she's the teenage daughter.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: And he's a professor. And his wife is dead. And
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to like find this hidden tribe in
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Africa somewhere. But he's been so sad about his wife
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: dying that he, you know, didn't really do the work.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: And everybody at the university and one person is Lily
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Tomlin is in this too. Oh. It's like, you know, well,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you have to do this big presentation that you discovered
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: this tribe. How are you going to do it? So
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: he puts his two boys together. in blackface and then
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: tribal stuff after and makes a hut in his backyard
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: and films it like he really went to Africa and
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: found this tribe.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Now that you mention this, I vaguely remember this movie. Yes.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: So then they're like, oh my God.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: It was like a comedy.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: No, it was a comedy. And Jenna Elfman, who from
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Dharma and Greg and a bunch of other things, she
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: works at the university too, but she is Can you
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: look up Jenna Elfman's age and Richard Dreyfuss' age, okay?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: So she.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: There's a difference.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, I want to say it's more than
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: 20 years. Oh, it's more than 20 years. So anyway,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: she's like, hey, you know... Jenna Elfman. Yeah.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: 54.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: She's 54.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: And how old is Richard Dreyfuss?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: He's 84.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: 78. Okay.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, 20.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: So 25 years.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, 25 years.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: So, and he's not cute. You know, he's not a babe.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: He's bald and kind of short and fat.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: He used to be. There was a time when he
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: was like a sex symbol in movies.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Never, no. No, he was. Even in Jaws, he was
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: not hot. As a woman.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: There's a movie called The Goodbye Girl where he's literally,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: him and Marsha Mason are like a sex symbol and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: both of them are butt uglies.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: No he was okay i'm telling you this guy was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: like a sex symbol we can differ i never ever
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: as a female saw him i always saw him as
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: what you'd say a character actor.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: I know but he was put in films where he
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be a romantic.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Leading no he could be a romantic lead but he
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't legit hot he wasn't richard no okay so anyway
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: they um so then they're like what else and then
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: like Lily Tomlin's like, I think you're lying and I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: going to find out if you're lying or whatever. And
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: so then they, they need, you know, they need money
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: and everything. Cause he's like the struggling professor and this
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: cable company, TV cable company goes, we want to feature
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: like on our show, all the footage that you found
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: from this like hidden tribe in Africa.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: So they're like, Oh my God, this is great. And
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: then the guy goes, what we really need is do
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: you have footage of any of them? lovemaking. What is it? Like, lovemaking.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: And Richard Dreyfuss is like, uh, yeah. He invites Jenna
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Elfman over. Blows her with alcohol.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Puts hidden cameras in the living room.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: And does the kids?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: No. Makes her get in blackface and wear, like, African garb.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: And she starts dancing and everything. And he's like, all right.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: And he presses record. And they, like, start making out
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: and he's dressed like an African person too. And then
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: they wake up the next morning and she's like, has
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: a headache and is hung over. And she's walking through
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: a electric store, like electronic store. And there's all the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: TVs there and the channel on there is the anthropology
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: cable channel. And they're like, we have footage of the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: way this tribe makes love. And she sees herself dancing
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: around in the African garb, making out with Richard Dreyfuss.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: And she's like, what?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Everything about this sounds so 90s. The fact that there's
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: even an appliance store, Richard Dreyfuss, Lily Tomlin. I mean,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: that's wild.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: So it's an insane thing. It all works out in
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: the end, okay? I don't remember. It all works out
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: in the end. The next one that they're doing is
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Soul Man. Surprise.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: I've probably seen Soul Man 10 times.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Because- I saw Soul Man in the movie theater. Yeah, C.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: Thomas Howell. Are you gross?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: It is the most- Shocking. Shocking. Drake, I need to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: tell you what Soul Man's about. C. Thomas Howell can't
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: get into law school. I mean, this is so offensive
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: because he's a white guy.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: And so he's like, well- They're taking more people of
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: color into these spots.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: So I am going to take, I think he put
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: makeup on, but I also think he was taking like
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: pills to make himself darker or something.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: And changes his hair, hair and everything. So he looks
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: like a black guy. Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: And he went full on like, give me five. Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: It's soul man. And he's like control around like Michael
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Jackson and everything. And then he gets to the law
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: school and he has to pretend like he's black the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: entire time. And then of course he meets like.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: This beautiful- Rae Dawn Chong, played by Rae Dawn Chong.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: The girl?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: And she's like stunning and everything and like, you know,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: super smart and cool. And then he does kind of realize,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: finally by the end, I think he realizes like, Maybe
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: this was kind of fucked. Oh no. He realizes that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: he took the spot from her.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: That was it. It's that he took the law school
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: spot from her. Yeah. They only had a spot for
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: one black person and they chose. I mean, it's so.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: It was in the theaters. Big hit.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Big hit.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Summer hit. Everybody went. Laughed wild.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I think when we go back to like old movies
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: of like the black and white old movies or like
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: 50s or 60s. They're not as offensive as this era
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: of movies.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you two to watch. They're absolutely shocking.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: There's a movie called Blame It on Rio, Demi Moore.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Remember it.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: I believe it's Michael Caine and an actor named Joseph Bologna.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: How I remember it?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: They're like 60.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: And the girl... the two daughters go like with their
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: dads and they fuck each other's dad. Right.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: And again, there's about a 40 year age difference between
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: the two of them.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And again, it's one of those movies that I've
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: talked about that obviously older males wrote it and you're
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: watching it and you're like, I guess if I was
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: in real, maybe I would screw Michael Caine. Like it
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: gets in your head. It's how media like changes your
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: mind where you're like, why would I be screwing my
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: friend's dad?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Well, Michael Caine was English. He had English.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a more recent movie that's the switcheroo
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: of that where it's two women and I've not seen it.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Two women go on vacation with their like 21-year-old sons.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: And they each fuck each other's son.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, what's that one called?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Look that up, Drake.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: I think I saw that on Pornhub.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: No, it's, it's like a real thing. They go on
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: a European trip.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: And they both like kind of, and I can't remember,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: like I, I don't, I didn't watch it, but I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: think it, I think it was just too weird and
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: close to home. Like I can't imagine.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: There's also a movie called The Toy with Richard Pryor
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: and Jackie Gleason.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Wait, hold on. Adore?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Adore?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: What does it say?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: It says 2013 best friends. Yeah, with their teenage sons.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 2013.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: I think it was a French movie.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: It's okay if it's in France.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. But The Toy is another one where Jackie
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Gleason and Richard Pryor, and his rich kid who wants
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: a black person as a toy, and they buy Richard Pryor.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: This is a real movie. Once again, a big.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Time summer hit. Right, but to like, it wasn't just like,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I have a weird kid and he has no friends.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to buy a friend for him. It was like, no,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: you need to act like a toy. Yeah.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: They take him to a toy store and he goes, no,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: I don't want any toys. I want that. And they go, what,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: the black guy? He's like, yes. And then they buy him.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: This is... Richard Pryor. It's great. It's kind of a fun.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Has Richard Pryor before he passed ever talked about how like,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I thought it was an awful thing, but it's a
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: huge paycheck. And I'm just like, whatever.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: I always wondered, did they realize, did they realize at
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: the time, this is a different time.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, we always talk about how like in, you know, um,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: 16 candles, there's like a, like the girl is so
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: drunk and the guy goes here, you can drive her home.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: and do whatever you want with her. And the little
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: dorky Anthony Michael Hall looks to the camera and is like,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: all right. And then the next day she's like, did we?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: And he goes, we did. And she's like, it's fine.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: It's fine that we did. And I was completely passed out.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: Every time the Asian guy comes on screen, they bang
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: a gong. That isn't real. That's not a joke. The
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: gong bangs every time he comes on screen. It's wild.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, just different times.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is wild. But I mean, I'm like, listen,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: like- We did not write the movies, okay? The generation
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: above Gen X wrote the movies. We saw the movies.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: We now are raising Gen Z and Alpha kids, and
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: we understand that they were wrong and gross. We, as
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Gen X, needs to be taken out of this equation.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: We did nothing wrong.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: We just enjoyed them.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: We did nothing wrong. In this ratio, we did nothing wrong.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: I remember going to see Soul Man, and I saw
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: it in a black theater. There was a black theater
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: on Long Island, and I went to see it in
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: a black theater, and they were loving it. We were
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: all loving it. I mean, we were one together in
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: loving that movie. I remember it vividly like it was yesterday.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, people say white chicks is wrong because they're.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's had some issues.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: But it really doesn't, though, because the people that- The
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: white white chicks love it. Like they don't find it
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: offensive at all. You can say we're frivolous and believe it.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: We don't care.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Like that's a stereotype of like, like, you know, they
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: just took the dressing like women one step further. You know,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: the genre of that.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: When I was in high school, we did a production
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: of a play called You Can't Take It With You.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: And in this play, there was two black characters and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: we didn't have many black people in the school, certainly
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: none who were in the theater program. So the theater
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: teacher asked me, we had a guy, Charlie Burroughs, who
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: was the one black guy in the school. Nice guy,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: football player, athlete, not an actor. And they said, can
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: you go ask him if he'll be in the play?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Because we need a black guy. So I had to
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: go and ask Charlie Burroughs, who was a friend of mine, like,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: would you be interested in being in the play? And
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: he's like, why? And I'm like, because you're a black
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: guy and the character's black. And he's like, no, I
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: don't want to do that. And I was like, oh,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: forget it. And I think they put people in blackface.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: But it's once again, different times. different times.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's just unbelievable. It's just, it's
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: really unbelievable. Like in a matter and that like people like,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: you know, all that, but that's when you're like, yeah,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: men were running the studios. They were the people green
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: lighting things. They didn't think it was wrong. If a girl,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: if you can get a girl drunk and she passes out,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: It's all fair game. You know, like that was just
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: an attitude.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: That was the plot of every movie in the 80s,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: more or less. I mean, Porky's, the entire movie is
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: based on them looking at girls in the shower. I mean,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: the whole movie is kind of like that.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Right, right. While they're taking a shower.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: While they're taking a shower. And it's high school.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. which i recently brought up do people still have
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: to like shower while they're at high.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: School i was on the episode yeah like a lot
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: of people said yes yes.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of people said yes i know i just
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: don't understand how there's time to get completely undressed shower
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: get completely like do your lotion do your deodorant get
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: completely redressed.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: I think it was a close your locker i don't
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: know how you grab your.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Books and get to the next class i couldn't do
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: it yeah how is there enough time for that i'll
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: never understand Chris, I know you are getting ready to
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: bring comedy to the people. I am.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: Next week, as a matter of fact.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Do tell.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Heading over to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Tulsa, beautiful town. Going
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: to the Bricktown Comedy Club in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 27th of August,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: 28th of August, 29th of August. I took it late.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But I think that sounds really cute. Like even the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: name of the comedy club is cute.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Brick House? Oh, it's Brick Town.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Brick Town.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: It's actually one of, it's a great club. I had a,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: I was there a couple of years ago and it
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: was an interesting show. I mean, there were some people
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: that came to like the second show on a Saturday
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: who were, you know, I don't know. Sometimes you go
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: to a city and the people are, you know, they've
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: had some issues.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of that. Anyway, I'm excited to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: go back.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: So juicy scoopers there.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Tulsa, Oklahoma. And a lot of people have been sending
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: me things. They're like, you didn't see the proper Tulsa.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: Because Tulsa is a cool town.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: So, like, here's some stuff. So, I like when people
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Love that. Like, this is where you need to go. So,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: thank you. Okay. The next thing, October 4th through the 10th,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I'm at the Brad Garrett Comedy Club in Las Vegas.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: The entire week, Brad Garrett. Then I come to Gainesville, Florida.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: I've never been to Gainesville, Florida. This is one of
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: those clubs that's given me a hard time about tickets. So, please,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: it's called the Signal Lounge in Gainesville, Florida. October 16th,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: they're all on my website, frangola.fun. And October 17th, I'm
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: in Tampa. which is almost sold out. If you want
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: to see me in Tampa, it's at Side Splitters in Tampa.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: I love this club. Six o'clock show on a Saturday.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: It's the greatest. So go get those tickets.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: It's the greatest.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Frangella.fun. Six o'clock on Saturday. You're done. Show's over. You're
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: back in your hotel.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: You're in your bed by 9 p.m. Well, I have
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: two shows at Cobb's, October 2nd and 3rd. Four shows.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: Two shows a night. So you have a choice.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: Friday and Saturday?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday. And then the following Friday and Saturday,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: which would be the, what would that be? 9th and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: 10th of October. I will be at the Desert Ridge
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Improv in Phoenix. And you told me it's gorgeous. It's
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: like a New York artist club.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Both of those clubs are two of my favorites.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: And it's a little more intimate than the other clubs.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: So we will definitely get into it and you'll get
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: to get close to me. And all those tickets are
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: available at heathermcdonald.net. And so come see us because that's
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: the whole reason we're going. We're so successful in the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: podcast game. We are doing it for the art.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Kind of.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: We're doing it for the art and to meet the people.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: I don't really know why you're still doing it. But
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: I kind of have to a little bit, but you
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: don't have to. What the hell are you doing?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it because I really had so much fun
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: when I was in Salt Lake City. And I do
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: love the art of stand-up. It's different than podcasting, live audience. Um,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: being a little more free flowing, telling fresh stories, uh,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: all of it. And so I like, and you can
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: really talk shit.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: You can really, um, you know, because it's, it's there
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: and it's gone. It's not, it's not the podcast. It's
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: not Patreon. It's not a video. It's like the only
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: place that you can like really let loose is, is
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: the comedy club.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: And now with all people watching clips and everybody is
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: into stand-up because they watch it on TikTok or they
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: watch it on Instagram, on their phone, I could tell
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: all of you that whatever you laugh at on the phone,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: whether it be TikTok or Instagram, you are going to
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: laugh a hundred times more live in the club.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: It's so much better than TikTok and Instagram.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: And laughing is an ab workout.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: Everything about it. There's no downside.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: There's no downside. And there's drinks, but you don't have
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: to drink. No. You don't have to drink.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they have Diet Coke.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: You could be that person on a sober journey and
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: still be chuckling away.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: And have a good time.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: All right. Everybody.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: Cover to cover. I have a podcast called Cover to Cover.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Everybody loves it. So come on over and listen to
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: Cover to Cover Tuesdays and Thursdays, Patreon, all that stuff.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: We do it all. Comedy to the people.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: How much more do you think you have in you? Honestly,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: like- A lot.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: I just was- I mean, you could tell me when
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: we get off air with it. I don't know what
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: this fake energy is you're doing right now, but when
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: we get off air- I just.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Told Drake this morning, I said, I think I'm kind
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: of killing it right now.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: You are.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like very, like, I don't know. I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: see my videos back in the show and I'm like,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: or I listened back to it and I'm like, I
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: love what this woman's saying. Yeah.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: I'm, listen, I'm the, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I am just bringing it and doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm getting lazy. No, there are days.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're certainly not lazy.
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  Speaker 1: There are days where I'm like, oh my God, you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's more where I'm, listen, one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons I'm, I can talk so long and so,
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  Speaker 1: and I know about so many things is because in my,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: when I'm not actually recording, I am like you, like
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  Speaker 1: looking at, the phone too much but the phone is
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  Speaker 1: really the news and stuff like that and sometimes in
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: doing that i i get like oh i gotta put
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: this away.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah me too i'm sick of seeing.
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  Speaker 1: How many people also have podcasts like that's sort of
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: what makes me go ugh but then i'm like but
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: the juicy scoopers aren't on their phone 14 hours a
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  Speaker 1: day no so a lot of stuff's new to them.
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  Speaker 1: They need this.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Believe me, they didn't know what that movie was about.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: They learned about Klippendorf's tribe on this episode. Nobody remembers
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: that movie. Speaking of another show, I have a show
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: here at your country club.
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  Speaker 1: Which one?
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  Speaker 3: This one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Sherwood. What's the day again?
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  Speaker 3: In September. I forget the date.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I am coming by to see you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I want to.
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  Speaker 1: I came by to the last one. You don't want
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: me to come?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: No, I would love you to come. I don't know
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: if I want to do it. I feel like I've
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: done a couple of country club shows lately and they're
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: never fun.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk after this.
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  Speaker 1: This is too inside. You'll have to listen to our
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: patrons to know about that. There you go.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Bye-bye.
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