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Chief Minister Natasha Fyles says the government has the crime crisis under control, with a raft of tailored measures in place · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: But we do know, as I said that Alice Springs, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's just about all we've spoken about in recent weeks
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  Speaker 1: with serious issues.
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  Speaker 2: Plaguing the town.
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  Speaker 1: The Chief Minister, Natasha Files just came back from the
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  Speaker 1: Red Center and joins me in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to your chief Minister.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, your morning listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Now we are being told by locals that things have
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  Speaker 1: calmed down quite a bit in Alice Springs with that
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  Speaker 1: strong police presence at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: What are locals saying to you on the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, I had a really positive visit to the community.
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  Speaker 4: Not to say that there is not issues ongoing or
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  Speaker 4: that there hasn't been significant issues. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 4: downplay that at all, but it was a very positive visit.
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  Speaker 4: I was able to visit health staff, meet some of
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  Speaker 4: the department staff and NGOs. I met with traditional owners.
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  Speaker 4: So I certainly had a very fulsome visit and what
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  Speaker 4: was out and about in the community.
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  Speaker 1: Now, where is the legislation at that's going to bring
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  Speaker 1: back those blanket alcohol bands across the territory?
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  Speaker 2: Is it ready for introduction tomorrow?
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  Speaker 4: So it will be ready for introduction tomorrow Katie, and
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  Speaker 4: then it will be debate on an urgency this week,
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  Speaker 4: so I expect it to be in place the end
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  Speaker 4: of the week. It does have once it's past the House,
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  Speaker 4: a process where it goes to the administrator, but I've
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  Speaker 4: asked for everyone to be prepared for that and to
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  Speaker 4: please act on urgency with it.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the process today? Does the Cabinet have to
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  Speaker 1: go through it? What exactly needs to happen? So, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: we've been working on the legislation. It has been done
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  Speaker 1: over many days. People have worked through the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: The process with legislation is it gets circulated to government departments.
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  Speaker 3: All of that's been happening.
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  Speaker 4: It will go to Cabinet and then we'll be able
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  Speaker 4: to offer the opposition independence briefings.
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  Speaker 1: And there's not going to be any curveballs here. There's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be something come through that Territorians aren't
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  Speaker 1: aware of that. You know, you're not going to try
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  Speaker 1: and pull a swifty over something.
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  Speaker 3: No, Katie. So the legislation is very straightforward.
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  Speaker 4: It we do have a number of communities that are
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  Speaker 4: already dry under territory legislation, Katie. They reverted there eighty
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  Speaker 4: eight out of the ninety six remote communities went back
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  Speaker 4: to being dry when the other legislation for.
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  Speaker 3: Becomworth ended last year.
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  Speaker 4: What this legislation will do is it'll make every community
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  Speaker 4: dry and they need to that community alcohol plan. That
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  Speaker 4: plan will go to the Director of Licensing just to
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  Speaker 4: make sure it's robust and it's not a frivolous plan.
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  Speaker 4: And then communities can vote on that and we need
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  Speaker 4: to see sixty percent of community agree to it.
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  Speaker 1: And so are you anticipating with this legislation it's going
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  Speaker 1: to pass this week?
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  Speaker 2: When's it going to be implemented?
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, it does go to the administrator, but I've
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  Speaker 4: asked everyone to be prepared for that towards the end
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  Speaker 4: of the week so we can have it in place
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  Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. So I anticipate by next weekend,
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  Speaker 4: If not quite next weekend, maybe Monday. But people working
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  Speaker 4: very hard to get this legislation in place.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there's no doubt that police presence has helped
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  Speaker 1: significantly in Alice Springs. What is the commissioner saying to
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  Speaker 1: you in terms of being able to keep the additional
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  Speaker 1: police officers in Alice?
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, I think it's the ability to restrict that
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  Speaker 4: supply of alcohol, that short term measure where we've reduced
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  Speaker 4: the trading days in alcohol policy, what you'll often see
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  Speaker 4: is a policy implemented and then over time it'll start
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  Speaker 4: to fade. So we absolutely have felt the impact and
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  Speaker 4: you've seen that in terms of police have had a
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  Speaker 4: reduced workload from some offenses which has allowed them to
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  Speaker 4: be proactive, as well as the resources from Operation Drina
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  Speaker 4: being in the community.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so but in terms of being able to keep
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  Speaker 1: those numbers up, are you confident what's the police commissioner
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  Speaker 1: said to you in terms of those forty additional police
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  Speaker 1: are they staying in?
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  Speaker 4: Alice, Katie, I have written to the police commissioner asking
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  Speaker 4: for those resources to stay there and he has accepted
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  Speaker 4: that letter that I've sent him. All Right, we also
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  Speaker 4: know that you know that the Police Commissioner, Jamie Chalker,
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  Speaker 4: has told the NT News over the weekend that three
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago, on that Monday to Tuesday twenty four hour period,
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  Speaker 4: they had in the vicinity of thirty seven family and
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  Speaker 4: domestic violence related matters for the same reporting period on
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  Speaker 4: the week just gone that reduced to five. He reckons
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  Speaker 4: that the number that the reduced number of domestic violence matters,
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  Speaker 4: which typically take police between three and four hours to
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  Speaker 4: respond to, have pushed officers back out on the straight,
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  Speaker 4: but they've found that they're often the only frontline responders
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  Speaker 4: roaming the Central Australians at all hours. He said to
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  Speaker 4: the paper, My team certainly do provide a sense of
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  Speaker 4: frustration to me on a fairly regular basis that the
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  Speaker 4: service delivery model out there to support them when they
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  Speaker 4: need it outside of Monday to Friday eight to four
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  Speaker 4: is pretty limited.
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  Speaker 2: He said.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of money that goes into entities that
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  Speaker 1: are meant to be supporting this service delivery model that
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  Speaker 1: occurs twenty four to seven. So the question really is
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  Speaker 1: why aren't those service providers working during the hours that
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  Speaker 1: they're actually needed.
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, that's something that I've raised with the Central
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  Speaker 4: Australian Regional Controller and she's doing program service mapping. Absolutely
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  Speaker 4: that we need to fund the services when the community
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  Speaker 4: needs them. So you wouldn't fund sporting activities for kids
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  Speaker 4: between nine and three because they're at school. You'd fund
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  Speaker 4: them from three to seven or that's when you deliver them.
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  Speaker 4: So what we're doing, and this is the conversations I
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  Speaker 4: was having last week is we have wonderful non government organizations,
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  Speaker 4: but we need them to deliver what the community needs.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't they so Katie's but they can see people out
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  Speaker 1: on the street. Why aren't they changing their way that
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  Speaker 1: they're doing things? Like?
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  Speaker 2: It's common sense to me, and some of.
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  Speaker 4: Them do deliver those services Katie, you know, outside of
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  Speaker 4: school hours and into the early evening. I think the
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  Speaker 4: Sunset School has been a great success, and I was
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  Speaker 4: speaking to principal Gavin Morris and they've had a great
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  Speaker 4: start to the school year. But this work is what
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  Speaker 4: we need to map what the services are needed and
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  Speaker 4: then if it's because their funding doesn't allow them to
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  Speaker 4: deliver into the evening, we need to change that.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the work that derells to.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's thirty five of these of these different
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  Speaker 1: service providers. I would imagine that there's an enormous amount
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  Speaker 1: of money going into those different services. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: clear to anybody that if there's kids out on the street,
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  Speaker 1: and if there's crime going on and these different you know,
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  Speaker 1: anti social for one of a better word, behaviors happening,
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  Speaker 1: that it's clearly not working.
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, this has been some of the positive work
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  Speaker 4: that's come out of the sort the social orda response team.
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  Speaker 4: And I spoke to Mayor Matt Patterson and he was
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  Speaker 4: really pleased with the role that that group has been
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  Speaker 4: having because there is a twenty service providers that deliver
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  Speaker 4: services the Northern Charctory Government, the Commwalth government, the council,
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  Speaker 4: but then all these NGOs and making sure that they're
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  Speaker 4: not doubling up on something and missing out on something else.
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  Speaker 4: So that work has been undertaken, that mapping and it
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  Speaker 4: will continue to be undertaken and to make sure the
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  Speaker 4: funding matches it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay there we also know that you know that obviously
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  Speaker 1: that order has to take place, as you've just touched on,
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  Speaker 1: and we need to ensure that those service providers are
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  Speaker 1: doing what they're being funded to do. But why is
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  Speaker 1: there a situation at the moment where the government said
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  Speaker 1: maybe not looking at some of that two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty million dollars from the federal government going back into
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police so that we can have additional
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  Speaker 1: police officers when clearly that is a service that's working
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  Speaker 1: and keeping things calm.
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  Speaker 4: So Katie, the turn in fifty million dollars is for
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  Speaker 4: a range of objectives. In terms of funding police, that's
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  Speaker 4: the Northern Territory government's responsibility. We've increased their budget by
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  Speaker 4: thirty six percent and we absolutely you know, through the
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  Speaker 4: police Minister and the Commissioner will work to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that they've got the resources to do their job.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The big concern now though, is that grog bands are
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  Speaker 1: going to mean that people are going to move around
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  Speaker 1: to get their hands on alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke to the mayor of Mount iSER on Friday
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  Speaker 2: and she.
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  Speaker 1: Confirmed more than five hundred people are there at the
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  Speaker 1: moment sleeping in the river and accessing alcohol. She said
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  Speaker 1: that they know they're from the Northern Territory as they're
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  Speaker 1: speaking to those service providers who go and provide food
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  Speaker 1: in the mornings. Obviously, we can't change what's going on
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  Speaker 1: in the is, but people are worried that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to see those concerns move from Alice to places like
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  Speaker 1: Catherine and Darwin. So what mitigation works underway to ensure
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  Speaker 1: that that's not the case, Katie.
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  Speaker 4: Very important question and just to assure your listeners. For example,
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  Speaker 4: Catherine has a full lockdown of the five primary takeaway
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  Speaker 4: liquor outlets buy police those police auxiliary liquor inspectors to
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  Speaker 4: ensure that point of sale intervention. So we also see
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  Speaker 4: a number of the communities in the Catherine region are
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  Speaker 4: dry nearby and so that helps that enforcement. Noulan Boy,
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  Speaker 4: for example, has a permit system and here in Darwin
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  Speaker 4: we have tools such as the BDR. Police can mobilize
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  Speaker 4: as they wish, working with licensing to make sure that
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  Speaker 4: we restrict that supply. They also do focus on that
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  Speaker 4: secondary supply with different operations.
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  Speaker 1: So you feel as though at the moment we've got
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  Speaker 1: enough police to be able to deal with the issues
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to see spread to different locations. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're already hearing from Catherine that there's really serious concerns.
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  Speaker 1: So do you feel as though that, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: way that we're currently funding the Northern Territory Police is
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  Speaker 1: adequate enough and that we have got enough police officers.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's answering that question in two parts, Katie.
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  Speaker 4: We know that, you know, Northern Territory Police, we're constantly
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  Speaker 4: recruiting to try and get more police officers.
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  Speaker 3: They do an enormous job.
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  Speaker 4: They work very hard across the Northern Territory in difficult circumstances,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll work with police through our budget process. Is
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  Speaker 4: that something that they understand we have increased their budget
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying it wouldn't be increased into the future.
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  Speaker 4: And then the second point of it, it doesn't shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have to just fall to police. Licensing is a key
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  Speaker 4: part of this as well.
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  Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting to though, is everybody can
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  Speaker 1: see at the moment that with the additional police resources
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  Speaker 1: in Alice Springs things have calmed down. We're still needing
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  Speaker 1: to go through an audit of thirty five, you know,
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  Speaker 1: non government organizations or service providers because we're really not
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure that they're meeting their KPIs where
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  Speaker 1: they're worried that crime is going to spread to other
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  Speaker 1: parts of the Northern Territory as a result of those
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  Speaker 1: alcohol restrictions and as a result of what we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to crime and anti social behavior. So
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people listening are going to be thinking
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  Speaker 1: to themselves, why aren't we providing the police with more
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  Speaker 1: to try to make sure we've got more of them
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  Speaker 1: on the street assisting the community because that's what a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are screaming out for.
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  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, Katie. I'm not saying that we wouldn't provide
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  Speaker 4: more police, but we need. You know, police has processes
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  Speaker 4: for recruitment, for budgeting, all of that gets worked through.
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  Speaker 4: I think an important point for your listeners, Katie, is
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  Speaker 4: the legislation that will pass this week will allow for
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  Speaker 4: you have to have a safe place to drink. So
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  Speaker 4: we've seen this in some local liquor accords where licensees,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the responsibility of them selling that alcohol is
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  Speaker 4: that they need to know that someone has a safe
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  Speaker 4: place to drink that our whole whether it's an airbnb,
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  Speaker 4: a hotel room, or their house or they're staying with family.
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  Speaker 4: So we have seen that enacted in this legislation that
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  Speaker 4: will be territory wide will also allow for licensees. So
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  Speaker 4: licensing have been doing an enormous amount of work with
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  Speaker 4: licensees to support them because it shouldn't all fall to them.
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  Speaker 4: And I know it can be difficult if you've got
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  Speaker 4: someone on the front sales counter and there's a huge
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  Speaker 4: cure of people, but it's making sure that all the
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  Speaker 4: tools we've got are working and that people are supported
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  Speaker 4: to use them.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to take you to some really
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  Speaker 1: serious concerns that were raised with us on the show
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  Speaker 1: on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: In Catherine.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke to Joanne, the CEO from Golden Glow Nursing
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  Speaker 1: on Friday. They're going to be closing down in Catherine
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  Speaker 1: as they've been broken into.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll let her tell the story. Take a listen, Pattie.
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  Speaker 5: We've been in Catherine the last ten years providing services
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  Speaker 5: to the age care and disability effective there. Since we've
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  Speaker 5: been in our new property, we've been broken into seven times.
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  Speaker 5: We've had two of our fleet has destroyed. We've had
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  Speaker 5: two just this week.
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  Speaker 2: What did they steal or what happened?
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  Speaker 5: They take a few meals on wheels, maybe out of
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  Speaker 5: the freezer, smashed the windows to break in, tear the
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  Speaker 5: security screens off the doors. Financially, it's no longer viable
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  Speaker 5: for us or the properly owners that we're renting from,
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  Speaker 5: for us to be there.
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  Speaker 1: So how are you bolstering the response to crime in Catherine.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a strikeforce service, which is the Catherine Property
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  Speaker 4: Crime Unit, Katie, and they've got to focus at the
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  Speaker 4: moment around reducing that rate and incident of unlawful entries
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  Speaker 4: and volume of crime across Catherine. So it's something that
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  Speaker 4: police have absolutely identified in the last few weeks and
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  Speaker 4: are working too.
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  Speaker 1: Can you see though, what I'm getting at where you know,
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  Speaker 1: every time there is that surge in crime, and it's
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  Speaker 1: obviously the police that it falls back on.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, fair enough, they are the ones.
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  Speaker 1: That are there to make sure that crime is dealt with.
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  Speaker 1: But do you feel as though the Northern Territory government's
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  Speaker 1: policy settings are correct at the moment to help police
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do their jobs the best that
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  Speaker 1: they can.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Katie, and we always work with police. We review
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  Speaker 4: what tools they have, looking at giving them more tools.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's also important to that This is
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  Speaker 4: why it's so we need to have the measures in
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  Speaker 4: place that stop these behaviors before they happen. So we
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  Speaker 4: need to engage with the families. We need to have
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  Speaker 4: men's behavior change, domestic and family violence. We need to
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  Speaker 4: have kids at school, busy, kids will sleep at night,
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  Speaker 4: not be idle.
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  Speaker 1: Look, our tech sign's going off. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get to all of those until a
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  Speaker 1: little bit later. We know that the opposition is set
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  Speaker 1: to introduce a vote of no confidence in your government
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow when Parliament sits. The opposition leader Leofanocchio said the
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  Speaker 1: motion reflected a widespread loss of community confidence in your
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  Speaker 1: government and a failure to do the very basics of government,
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  Speaker 1: and that is to keep the community safe. How do
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  Speaker 1: you respond to that given the fact that so many
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  Speaker 1: in the community right now really don't feel as though
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  Speaker 1: crime and being able to keep the community safe is
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  Speaker 1: under control.
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  Speaker 4: So it's getting the community to understand the factors that
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  Speaker 4: are driving this and the work that we are doing
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  Speaker 4: in ernest Katie. There is not one single solution, there
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  Speaker 4: is no easy fix, but we're absolutely responding and meet
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  Speaker 4: as well as into the future.
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  Speaker 2: With the utmost respect.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's reached the point where people do understand,
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  Speaker 1: like they're not stupid, they're listening to what, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's being said, but they feel as though the government
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  Speaker 1: is not listening to them. They feel as though you're
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  Speaker 1: not actually hearing them. Now, look, I don't know whether
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  Speaker 1: this is the right step. I don't know whether a
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  Speaker 1: motion of no confidence is the right thing to do,
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  Speaker 1: or whether it's a political pr stunt that's neither Here
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  Speaker 1: nor there to me. But the point that I really
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  Speaker 1: want to get across is that Territorians are at their
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  Speaker 1: wits end. They're actually feeling they are feeling like they
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  Speaker 1: don't know whether you and the government have this under control.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, Katie, we do.
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  Speaker 4: We're absolutely listening to them right across the Northern Territory,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's some central Australia to the top end, and
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  Speaker 4: we are working with our government agencies, working with the
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  Speaker 4: Commonwealth Government, working with counsel. I've had very constructive conversations
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  Speaker 4: with the mayors around how we can tackle these issues.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's got a role to play, but we absolutely accept
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  Speaker 4: our responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: Do you say to Joanne, like the CEO of Golden
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  Speaker 1: Glow Nursing, where they're in a situation where they've had
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  Speaker 1: their two fleet cars ruined, taken off, you know, taken
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  Speaker 1: off so they're not actually able to go out and
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  Speaker 1: see people who are in desperate need of being seen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're closing down in Catherine. So that's a
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  Speaker 1: service provider that's leaving a town like Catherine because they
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  Speaker 1: don't feel as though it's safe enough to be able
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  Speaker 1: to operate and it's not viable for them and Katie.
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  Speaker 4: That's where it's important for business owners and for committees
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  Speaker 4: to understand that there is tailored measures that are being
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  Speaker 4: put in place right across the Northern Territory, that there
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  Speaker 4: is programs to support them and help them. Of course,
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  Speaker 4: that's very frustrating to hear, and I have sympathy for
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  Speaker 4: that particular business owner, but we have bit secure. We've
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  Speaker 4: put additional resources in there. We've got victims of crime,
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  Speaker 4: but we're also trying to stop it before it happens.
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  Speaker 1: Katie, speaking of victims of crime, is any of that
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars which is being invested
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: into Alice Springs by the federal government, is any of
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: that going to victims of crime?
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: And if not, why not?
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: So, Katie, we provided additional funding to victims of crime
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: at the end of last year. I think from a
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: memory it was two million dollars for them at that point,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: and will continue to work with them. They're a non
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Dublin organization that was set up by government some years
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: ago to respond and to be a little agile outside
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: of government, and will continue to fund them.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Do you feel as though that's adequate two million dollars
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: when you consider what people are going through at the
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: moment when you consider what some of those victims of
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: crime have had to deal with.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: So, Katie, they have a really strong program that they
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: support people, whether it's through the court system or whether
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: it's providing them with immediate support at the point of
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: an incident taking place.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: So I've got I think this is a really important question.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: The next one, do you feel as though the Northern
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Territory Government has the right policy settings and initiatives in
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: place to keep territorians safe right now?
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you feel as.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Though what the Northern Territory government is doing is adequate.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: So, Katie, listeners need to understand there is policy setting,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: there is legislation in place, but we're constantly reviewing that
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: and so for example, we're going to be introducing trespassed legislation.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: This is from feed back from business owners and police,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: so that legislation will see the change in the way
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: you can trespass someone. So it's a multifactorial issue and
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: it takes a multifactural approach to respond.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Look, I think again, a lot of people are going
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: to feel so frustrated upon hearing what you've just said
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: that you feel as though you've got those policy settings
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: right when you know, you go for a walk down
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the street, you talk to some business owners in the
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: mall and they're dealing with like terrible I don't even
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: know that antisocial behavior is the right word for it,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: like terrible situations. You know, you're seeing domestic violence on
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the straight, so for people to hear that, they're going
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: to be really frustrated.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: But Katie, what I also said was is there more
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: work to do? Absolutely, And the work that needs to
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: be done is that grinding, hard work making sure that
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: you have long term programs in place. So domestic and
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: family violence, Katie, we need to have men's behavior change program.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: We need to make sure and that is grinding work. Alcoholation, rehabilitation,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: We've got those services. We make sure those pathways are
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: as easy to access as possible. But there's not a simple,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: single magic wand solution. It's hard work across a range
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: of areas.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I guess everybody keeps hearing that, but then their feelings
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: so things are getting worse, not better.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: So, Katie, the resources that are out there, the programs
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: that are out there. We've got youth diversion programs, we've
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: got alternatives to prison, Katie. We've seen some real success
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: on Grout Island where we've seen the youth arrest rate
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: drop significantly because we've got alternatives to prison and local
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: decision making and that work is continuing and inter Central Australia.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: That's what we want to empower those communities to achieve.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: All Right, we are fast running out of time and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I've got a few things i want to get through.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Late last week, Robin Lamley confirmed in a statement that
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: she's taken the step of referring the Northern Territory Attorney
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: General Chancey Paig to the NT Independent Commission against Corruption
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: for failing to declare his conflict of interest with the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: with the local Alice Springs Aboriginal Corporation, with whom she
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: says he has deep connections and where he has directed
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: enormous amounts of public money.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the Attorney General about this?
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Robin Lamley knows her allegations about the Attorney General are
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: baselest she's using the ikak as a tool for political
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: point scoring and he's unacceptable.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So have you spoken to him about it?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: So?
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Chancey Paike is a hard working local member.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: He has strong connection very specifically have you spoken to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: him about it?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: She is playing politics with this issue. She is using
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: the ikak for political point scoring.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So has he.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Declared his relationship with the Tongue Jier Aboriginal Corporation?
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: As I was saying, Chancey is a long term Central Australian.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: He has got family across a number of communities and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: he always declares that.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: She has declared it with July.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Anyone that meets chance he knows that he has family,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: it seems in every set.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: But I think there's a very different thing between everybody
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: knowing that and whether it's been declared on the record.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: So Katie Robin Lamley is playing cheap politics. She is
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: being incredibly short sighted and stooping to a new low.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I believe just simply using that ikak for a tool
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: for political point scoring.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's baseless. What are her claims? Ask her about her claim?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: She's got no claim.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: She says that as a member of Parliament she has
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a mandatory responsibility to report in proper conduct to the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Office of the Eyekak and says that Chancey Paig has
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: had every opportunity to declare his conflicts of interest and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: many people in Central Australia have drawn her attention to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: these allegations. Are you one hundred percent confident that there's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: no issue here? Yes?
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: What is the claim?
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: She's being very cute with her political points scoring She
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: actually hasn't made a claim. He's got family, He's got
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: family across Ala Springs and Central Australia and the territory.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: But there is no it's a baseless claim. She actually
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: hasn't come out with anything. She's mixing words around in
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: proper conduct and referring to the yekak, but she hasn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: actually got a claim to make.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: All right, let me move along.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Robin Lamley's also going to make a move to Parliament
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: House well, a move to make Parliament House an alcohol
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: free workplace this week.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: She reckons.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: This is less about an actual motion but more about
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: an important symbolic gesture by the Northern Territory members of
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Parliament recognizing that alcohol is the single most destructive problem
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory and that implementing alcohol restrictions in
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: our parliamentary workplace, similar to the plethora of alcohol restrictions
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: that are in place across ninety percent of the Northern Territory,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is a very small ask, will you support it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure when she was Deputy Chief Minister what
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: kind of office she ran, but that my team, my staff
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: are spending time working for Territorians. It's a place of work,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: listening and taking action.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So do your stuff.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Does anyone ever have a wine while Parliament sitting or
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: while they're at work?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: No, Katie, I mean, I'm not sure Robin's got an
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: office in Parliament House. I'm not sure what her office
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: is like. Is there wine in the fridge? And does
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: she have a wine while she's listening to debate because
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: my team certainly don't.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Well. I think she told the ABC this morning that
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: she doesn't, that she doesn't drink while she's at work.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But so so you don't reckon that this is an
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: important thing to do regardless, I guess to send a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: message to all of the Northern Territory that hey, we're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: at work.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: We don't allow wine while we're working.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: It's my expectation as Chief Minister, Katie, that my staff
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: are working. They are certainly not drinking at Parliament House,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and I think that Territorians respect that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Chief Minister.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Before I let you go, there is indeed a cyclone
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: watch in place. At the moment, all eyes are keeping
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: an eye on what is going on for the communities
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: from Groot.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Island and Ali and Gula.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: What's the government's stance at this point in time or
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: what measures are in place.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, so we stood up our emergency response over
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: the weekend. So they have temps, which is that the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: government agency is coming together. So there is that tropical
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: low that's expected to develop in the Golf of Carpenteria.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: So if you're in that region, please heed or warnings,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: take appropriate action whilst it's early. Secure and tea and
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: police and emergency services will continue to provide updates.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister Natasha Files, we will leave it there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time, Thank you for coming in.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Take care.