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Age is Just a Number with DeAnna Pappas · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Ben isn't
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  Speaker 2: here this week. He is in Italy. Can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: hear about that trip. But for now breaking down headlights
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  Speaker 2: with me, we have Deanna Pappis.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, Gianna back to the show. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I've become quite the regular you have been.
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  Speaker 2: I know that we've talked about, well, I'll just dive
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  Speaker 2: into it. We've talked about, you know, your recent divorce.
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  Speaker 2: But now we want to like concentrate on talking about
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  Speaker 2: some fun things. Well fun things are not fun things.
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  Speaker 2: It's called dating. How has it been?
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  Speaker 3: Have you done it at all?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not dying. I am so busy poking
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  Speaker 4: fun at myself on social media, and people are just
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  Speaker 4: like beside themselves, like text messaging me and saying it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be okay, hang in there, You're gonna find someone.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, I'm just joking.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not actually trying to find someone. I'm just fun
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  Speaker 4: at the reality of my situation. That's me on a
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  Speaker 4: Monday night in my house alone, trying to make funny
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  Speaker 4: videos on Instagram because truly, I'm in my pajamas and
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing anything but hanging out with myself.
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  Speaker 3: So no, I have been.
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  Speaker 4: On one date with this cute little thirty year old
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  Speaker 4: kid who hit on me in the Nashville airport, and
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  Speaker 4: I only went out with him because I was like,
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  Speaker 4: bold move, dude, Like bold move hitting on me in
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  Speaker 4: the airport with my two kids, mind you, And it
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  Speaker 4: was that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But like.
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  Speaker 4: He's thirty and I'm almost forty two and getting divorced,
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  Speaker 4: Like what does that even look like?
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  Speaker 2: You know, my friend is thirty three and she recently
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  Speaker 2: hooked up on vacation with a twenty three year old.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny because like when you know you're young,
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  Speaker 2: but when you're young and then you see like your
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  Speaker 2: celebrity crushes dating these older women, you're just like, why
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't he I'm his age, like date your age, And
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  Speaker 2: then when you're in your thirties and forties, you're like,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, no wait, I see the appeal of a
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  Speaker 2: younger man and met and younger men.
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  Speaker 3: Always see the appeal older lady.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling older lady, quote quote quote you know, so,
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  Speaker 2: like do you find yourself wanting to cougar a bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, this is this how Stella got her
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  Speaker 4: groove back? You know what. I went to the Dodgers
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  Speaker 4: Braves game a few nights ago. I think four kids
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  Speaker 4: were sitting in front of us, and me and my
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  Speaker 4: girlfriend are practically the only people in the stadium wearing
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  Speaker 4: Braves jerseys. Because I'm from Atlanta, I'm a huge frames.
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  Speaker 4: And as soon as we sit down, these kids turn
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  Speaker 4: around and they start hackling us like ooh, braz blah,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, sit down, child, like sit down, no joke.
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  Speaker 4: They were like twenty two years old. It took them
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  Speaker 4: a hot minute, but then they realized I was this
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  Speaker 4: woman from the Bachelorette. And then they were all over
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  Speaker 4: me and like, let me take you to dinner, let
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  Speaker 4: me do this. And I was like, I draw the line.
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  Speaker 4: I am almost forty two years old. That is twenty
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  Speaker 4: years your senior. No, I am not babysitting tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 4: Like could you even afford to take me to do
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to go somewhere that's not halfway decent.
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  Speaker 4: But these kids were all over it. And so at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I remember thinking like it's
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  Speaker 4: super flattering obviously, Yeah, I still got it. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure what that actually is what I do have, but
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  Speaker 4: that somebody remotely finds me attractive. But you know, it
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  Speaker 4: is funny. It is the younger kids that have the
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  Speaker 4: actual balls to hit on you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm totally this guy.
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  Speaker 2: The twenty three year old was worshiping my thirty three
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  Speaker 2: year old friend, like saying, like how can I what can.
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  Speaker 3: I do to like make you happy?
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  Speaker 2: And like he was very proactive and texting and getting
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  Speaker 2: together with her.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, worshiping her maybe what she needs. Thirty and
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  Speaker 4: twenty three though.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big one difference, right, that's not a big difference.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, so if he was twenty six
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  Speaker 2: and thirty six not that big, but.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty three and thirty three might be. It's it's so.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy, like the minutia when it comes to age gaps
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  Speaker 2: and when you feel it and when you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess that The difference in being like
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  Speaker 4: forty two and where I'm at just in my life
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  Speaker 4: and emotionally and everything else is like I just don't
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  Speaker 4: care anymore. I mean I do in a way that
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  Speaker 4: I'm speaking, but there's just no more fucks to give,
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  Speaker 4: do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like what I have?
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  Speaker 4: I two my husband left me, I'm getting divorced. Like
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  Speaker 4: I just I feel pretty good about myself. I know
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  Speaker 4: who I am. I feel pretty secure at my core,
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  Speaker 4: and like if someone finds that attractive to me, that's nice.
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  Speaker 4: It's nice, you know. I mean, I've been through a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I've been through a lot in the last few years,
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  Speaker 4: and it's been really difficult. So if it's a thirty
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  Speaker 4: year old who hits on me, then that's that's what
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  Speaker 4: it is. But no, I'm not dating. Not dating.
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  Speaker 2: Will you be interested in dating? At some point you think, oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Of course. I would have thought if someone would ask me, okay, okay, Actually,
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  Speaker 4: when I don't leave my house and you know, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: why doesn't anyone want to date me? I hang out here.
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  Speaker 4: I went to bed at seven thirty last night, seven thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Seven thirty. That like kind of freaks me out. Ben
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  Speaker 2: goes to bed really early too, It kind of like
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  Speaker 2: freaks me out. I don't know what it is, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see any glimmer of sunlight if
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  Speaker 2: I'm ever heading to bed.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, I went to a really nice sushi dinner with.
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  Speaker 3: My my get out and his wife.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always the third wheel, and I held their baby
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  Speaker 4: the whole time while they ate so they could get
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  Speaker 4: a nice hot meal. So here I am holding the
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  Speaker 4: baby out with my married friends. And then I come
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  Speaker 4: home and I go to bed at seven thirty and
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  Speaker 4: I wake up at seven am, and I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, that's almost twelve full hours. I'm doing really well.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you just said that like your husband left you.
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  Speaker 2: Are you willing to talk a little bit about how
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  Speaker 2: that went, I'll all run down, not really, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I didn't want divorce. It was not something
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  Speaker 4: that I chose. But this is where we're at, and
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  Speaker 4: more so so now I am totally fine with it.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously things were difficult for a long period of time,
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  Speaker 4: challenging and just hard, just really hard. And the difference
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  Speaker 4: is is like, marriage isn't meant to make you happy.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're married, you have kids. Marriage is not
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  Speaker 4: meant to make you happy. It is meant to refine you, hopefully,
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  Speaker 4: and two people can learn to cohabitate, you know, as one.
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  Speaker 4: But that's a big confusion when it comes to relationships.
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  Speaker 4: People will say all the time. You don't make me happy.
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  Speaker 4: You don't make me happy. I'm not meant to make
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  Speaker 4: anyone happy. You aren't, either as a wife or a
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  Speaker 4: spouse or whatever. We're not meant to make people happy.
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  Speaker 4: But marriage and relationships and companionship is meant to refine us.
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  Speaker 4: And hopefully you learn to do that together and grow together.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately we just couldn't. So now my goal is
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  Speaker 4: to just be a great co parent. I had a
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  Speaker 4: really difficult childhood because my parents fought constantly and fought
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  Speaker 4: in front of me. I'm really ugly to one another,
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  Speaker 4: and like, that's awful, and I don't want to do
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  Speaker 4: that to my children. So I'm trying really hard to
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  Speaker 4: get along well with Stephen and be great co parents
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  Speaker 4: because I want my children to have a very different
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  Speaker 4: experience in what I had growing up.
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  Speaker 2: How will your experience over the past few years affect
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  Speaker 2: dating in the future and finding a future spouse.
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  Speaker 3: You'd like to get married again?
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  Speaker 4: No, I actually do not ever want You don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: Get married again?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're open to dating, but you don't want
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  Speaker 2: the dating to result in marriage.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to say that. I'm one hundred
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  Speaker 4: percent closed off from it. I just this is also
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  Speaker 4: fresh to me. Yeah, I am still healing in a
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  Speaker 4: work in progress, and I guess at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day. And I shared this when I was on
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  Speaker 4: a few weeks ago with Bob and Trista. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: not that I don't ever want to get married again.
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  Speaker 4: It's just that I don't necessarily need that piece of paper.
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  Speaker 4: I've had a big wedding, I've done the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need that To be in a relationship and
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  Speaker 4: be fully committed with someone that I choose as a companion,
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  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily need to get married again. But I
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  Speaker 4: realize that may be important to whoever I should choose
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  Speaker 4: to share my time with in the future, and so
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  Speaker 4: I'm open to the conversation. But it's just not important
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  Speaker 4: to me right now in the face.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm and like, you already have the kids, and like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you plan on more kids.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want any more children. Like I feel pretty
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  Speaker 4: solid where I'm at, and I feel really great with
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  Speaker 4: my two kids, and they're seven and nine and I'm
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  Speaker 4: forty two. I don't want to be pregnant again. I
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  Speaker 4: do not want to spend another year of my life
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  Speaker 4: breastfeeding a baby, Like I just I feel solid where
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  Speaker 4: I'm at, in the place in my life where I
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  Speaker 4: am with my kids. I'm totally open, Like if someone
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  Speaker 4: else has kids, like I love babies, I will hold
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  Speaker 4: your baby and I'll put your baby to sleep all day,
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  Speaker 4: and then I will go home and I will get
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  Speaker 4: a good night's rest. And I am open to dating
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  Speaker 4: someone who has children and having a blended family, like
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  Speaker 4: that's totally fine. I just don't know that I necessarily
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  Speaker 4: need that sheet of paper more, you know. And that's
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  Speaker 4: also a blessing to Ashley. In this phase of my life.
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  Speaker 4: When dating, there's there's no pressure, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm not sitting across on the table from someone thinking,
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  Speaker 4: oh I see my future husband. Like there's literally no
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  Speaker 4: pressure whatsoever because I've done it and I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 4: think that I want to do it again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't have that biological clock being like
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  Speaker 3: I need to find someone now, like you can just
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  Speaker 3: take your time in finding someone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Well, thank you for sharing all that.
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  Speaker 2: I know you shared more with just Bob on the
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  Speaker 2: almost famous og. So you guys can check that out.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Deanna is going to help me break down headlines this week.
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  Speaker 3: We have quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: They're good ones. So first up we have Jesse Palmer.
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  Speaker 2: He says that the Golden Bachelor contestants are rock stars.
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  Speaker 2: The night did not end at ten pm. He said
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  Speaker 2: that he was kind of expecting, because of their age,
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  Speaker 2: that maybe they'd be going to sleep around ten That
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  Speaker 2: first night that goes from sundown to sun up was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a lot from them. They didn't change
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  Speaker 2: that format for the older crowd. But he goes, they
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  Speaker 2: were just rockstars. They were like pulling all nighters.
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  Speaker 3: They're rolling.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, and I see these young kids sometimes take
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  Speaker 2: naps on the couch here and there throughout that first night,
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  Speaker 2: but not these ladies.
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  Speaker 3: So is this surprising to you and not? It isn't
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 2: If they were even like at all struggling with staying awake,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they were like, no, I'm here, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be I'm going to do this this process properly.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's a funny thing too, even at their age,
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  Speaker 4: like they have nothing to lose, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: All of these women properly feel so secure and confident
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  Speaker 4: in themselves. I'm actually it's the first season I would
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  Speaker 4: watch in a really long time. I have not watched
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  Speaker 4: the show in at least a decade, and.
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  Speaker 3: It really yeah, yeah, I got so.
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  Speaker 4: Sick of the wash, you know what I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: rinse and repeat, it's the same thing. And to be honest,
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  Speaker 4: the older I get, the younger they get, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't have a lot in common with the girls, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. So for me, it was just
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  Speaker 4: hard to watch the show. I got sick of the gimmicks,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, everybody getting out of the
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  Speaker 4: limo and wearing a dinosaur costume or riding in on
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  Speaker 4: a horse or whatever. You know, It's just I got
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  Speaker 4: sick of just the way the show thrived off of
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  Speaker 4: created drama. I missed the piece of the show where
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  Speaker 4: it used to be somewhat genuine, Like I get the concept,
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  Speaker 4: like if they've always had a plan, they always cast
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  Speaker 4: people to be certain characters, like I understand that, but
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  Speaker 4: it just felt a little bit more genuine back in
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  Speaker 4: the day, and so I just struggled to watch the show.
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  Speaker 4: So this is the first season I'm actually excited to watch,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like it's going to be good, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's so funny. I'm sure you've asked your friends.
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  Speaker 4: People are on the fence. Like I literally was just
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  Speaker 4: talking to one of my best friends the other day
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  Speaker 4: and they were like, I do oh no, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: trying to watch a bunch of old ladies make out
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  Speaker 4: with an old man at night, and like that, if
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  Speaker 4: that's what it's going to be, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: do that. And I don't know, I find something like
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  Speaker 4: sweet about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't imagine most of my friends are on board.
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  Speaker 2: There was one that was hesitant over it, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, really, I'm surprised from you. But anyway, you
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  Speaker 2: have actually recently said that you wish that there was
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  Speaker 2: some middle show now because we have the twenties and
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  Speaker 2: thirties on the one show, and then we have the
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  Speaker 2: sixties and seventies on the other, and you're like, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: where are the forties and fifties.
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  Speaker 4: Where are the forty two year old divorces that come
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  Speaker 4: back for their second chance? Where are they? You know,
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  Speaker 4: I think there is something to be tapped into there.
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  Speaker 4: And you know this, You've been a part of the
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  Speaker 4: show and the process and the franchise for a long time,
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  Speaker 4: but like especially now with the strike, there's no new
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  Speaker 4: television coming out ABC. The Bachelor franchise, they have all
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  Speaker 4: of these people that they could tap into. I think
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  Speaker 4: they see the success in that when they do things
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  Speaker 4: like Bachelor, Pad, Bachelor and Paradise. Yeah, the Winter Games,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. People like to see those
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  Speaker 4: people come back. And so for me, as I was
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  Speaker 4: saying to Rob Mills and some of the other executives
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  Speaker 4: when I saw them a few weeks ago, is I
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  Speaker 4: was just thinking, like, why why aren't you tapping into this?
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: Why don't you spend more time tapping into people who
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: have been on the show before?
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  Speaker 3: And always talked about that, like why are there not
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: more spin offs?
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  Speaker 2: Like why even if you don't do it on ABC,
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  Speaker 2: like do it on Hulu your partner, right.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you not doing that? You have a built
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  Speaker 4: in fan base, you have a built in connection with
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  Speaker 4: these people who have already been on the show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: all of those seasons have been really successful. Why are
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  Speaker 4: you not tapping into those things? So, I honestly was
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  Speaker 4: just a few cocktails in and Tristan I were just
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  Speaker 4: joking around because she's trying to find me my new
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  Speaker 4: husband too. And so I was laughing and saying that
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  Speaker 4: to Rob Mills and confused and stuff, and I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, just give me a shot, just let me
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  Speaker 4: have a little more go at it.
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  Speaker 3: So you would like to be the lead if they
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  Speaker 3: had a show like that.
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  Speaker 4: I am open to the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Cool, but you don't want to get married again?
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  Speaker 2: No, they'd get all like annoyed because then, like the
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  Speaker 2: proposal wouldn't be there in the end.
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  Speaker 4: Not that going into it. There's no pressure. Twenty five
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  Speaker 4: thirty dudes come in, hopefully over the age of thirty,
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  Speaker 4: and there's no pressure in feeling like you have to
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  Speaker 4: get to know me in six weeks and propose to
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  Speaker 4: me at the end, Like that's done. I did that
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  Speaker 4: already on national television and in real life. There's no pressure.
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  Speaker 4: You get to genuinely come into a situation and see
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  Speaker 4: if there is a connection with me or whomever they
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  Speaker 4: choose to do, and see if we can take that
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  Speaker 4: and have a successful relationship outside of the show, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like for me, that feels more
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  Speaker 4: real than anything else you've been on the show, Like
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  Speaker 4: to go on there and think it six weeks when
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: you've really spent what fourteen hours with someone and then
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  Speaker 4: to get engaged and try to have a successful relationship
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  Speaker 4: with someone that you have done this completely backwards with, right,
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  Speaker 4: you've fallen in love, but you don't know who that
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  Speaker 4: person is. I was with dude for four months and
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  Speaker 4: it was painful, painful, Like, think out what that would
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  Speaker 4: be like coming into the show and there's no pressure,
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to get on one knee at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be good, It would definitely be good.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I don't understand how. I don't get like,
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  Speaker 2: I love the couples who are still together from the
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  Speaker 2: main show, but I am mind boggled at how they
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  Speaker 2: can be together because I was there until six eight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was like six if you want to
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: call me six. I was eighth, if you want to
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: call me eighth, And like, are you telling me that
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I had four more weeks until possibly getting No way,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: No way, Okay, let's move on from that. But I
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: think it's a great idea, and I think if the
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor does do what it wants to in ratings
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: and popularity, I think a.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Spin off for the forties and fifties could be on
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Now. This one took a long time to get so
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying what happened quick, but it could happen.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: But what would they call it? They can't call it
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: the Golden Bachelor.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Definitely not your middle aged bachelor. Mama comes back saying
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: kind of awesome. All right.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: So other big headline this week is Joe Amable grocer
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: shor Joe Instaregnna Pit. They got married for you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the second time, the celebration time, and it was chock
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: full of bachelor lum there. It was in Charleston, South Carolina,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: at the Cedar Room this past Saturday, September second. They
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: documented so much of it on social media. It's been
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: really fun to watch their videographers definitely like were modern
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: and they were like, well, we're making you reels and
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I loved it. There's one where Serena is opening her
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: present from Joe and it's a note that he gave
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: her on the show on Bachelor in Paradise. He like
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: slipped it to her after they're engaged. Who was like, hello, fiance,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: realize you don't have my number here? It is texting
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: when we can move to get to the hotel or
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: something like that. That's so cute. Yeah, they're adorable and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: so Wells officiated the ceremony. I wonder if we're gonna
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: get I'm sure we'll get clips from the ceremony soon.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: And the Bachelor Nation couples and just a lum that
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: were there included Tia and her fiance, Kenny and Mariy
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Noah and Abigail, Anna Redmon, and Chris Bukowski. Anna was
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: on her season, was on Suring this season, Nick and Natalie,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Natasha Brie Springs, which is also on her season with
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Matt and I think I got that cover, but I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: might be missing a few.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: I think that's it.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Oh no, yes, sa I am missing a few.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Andrew Spencer went public with Becca me she who's not
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: part of Bachelor Nation, but he posted a picture of
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: them kissing. And then of course well was with Sarah
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and yeah, okay, so good handful of Bachelornation right there.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: There were a lot of people that were there, but
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: there were several people that got married in the last week.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Got married in the past week.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, like Crystal Nielsen got married in the past
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, a couple of weeks and then Danny then
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and then Caylin and Dean.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Are getting married in a few weeks, and then who
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: are we missing? And then like Noah and Abigail got engaged.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: In the past few weeks. It's just been like really
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: big for Bachelor in Paradise.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: That yeah, all.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Right, next up is so so ridiculous. Jesse loves like
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: putting these things out there, and it's like, Jesse, why
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: are we even joking like this? Okay, let's like not
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: even joke like this. I don't joke about Tom Brady
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: as I'm fully indoctrinated into Tom Brady fandom because my husband,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer says Tom Brady is a solid choice for Bachelor.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: The ratings would be incredible. Yes, of course they would.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: But Tom would never ever do it. There's not even
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: like a money amount that he would do it for.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: He doesn't need the money. He could.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: You imagine they'd be like a billion dollars Tom Brady,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and he would He's saying no.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: But he's for right reasons, because he doesn't need a paycheck.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: He'd be there for love.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, he'd be there for love. I don't think he
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: needs like thirty women to choose from when he has
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the whole world of women to choose from, and he
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: does have this thing going on with Irena Shank which,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: in my personal opinion, this is like a little boring
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: to go from Giselle, one international supermodel to another.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: But okay, fine, I got it hot.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: From Bradley Cooper to him.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Oh exactly, thank you for that. It's just like they
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: just both went to their parallels, you know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: What I mean?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, but yes, a little bit more on
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: what he said about Tom being the bachelor. He goes,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it would be legendary. It would be great because we
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: can use all of his houses. We could go international,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: not spend much, not spend much. The whole season would
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: be very budget friendly, he goes, But there is the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Irena shake issue. But she's willing to kind of just
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: chill out for a few months of filming. I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: we're solid. Yeah, all right, Well, next off is some
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: sad news about my friend Jade roper Tobert. She's been
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: documenting her miscarriage, her baby loss of He was five
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: months past, passed before five months, but she carried him
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: for five months and last week she had the DNC.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: She If you guys don't know what that is that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: basically like remove the baby from her body. And she said,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you know, she wants to post this so that people
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: who are going through miscarriages like feel supported and not
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: alone in the whole thing. This is actually Jade's second miscarriage,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: this one, you know, a little bit different because he
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: was further along. She said that, you know, there's like
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the saddest quotes, but basically she just like really wanted
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to trust her body and have the baby passed naturally
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: so that she can bury him under a tree in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the backyard.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: And she just wanted to see his little body.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: But it's just time to move on, she goes, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: held on for so long trying to trust my body,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: but it is time to get to the other side
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: of this loss and start to heal. And then she said,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to procab my peace and respect my baby.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So she's only sharing little bits and pieces to it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: But she just wanted to say to all the ladies
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: out there who have gone through this or are going
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: through this, I see you, I feel your pain, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I think there's something really beautiful in that. I that
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: kind of loss was just so taboo to talk about
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: even even ten years ago, you know what I mean.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Likes the thing where you don't tell people you're pregnant
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: until twelve weeks just to make sure nothing bad happens.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I never quite understood that, because should you experience the
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: devastating grief of loss like that, wouldn't you want your
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: people to walk alongside you, you know what I mean.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: So I've appreciated seeing her post and also Sarah Sarah
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Heron she shared a lot about her loss and Ashley
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Spivey and I just so much. Have just really appreciated
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: that because I don't feel like it should be this
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: taboo thing that we can't talk about, because why should
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: they experience that kind of grief and walk alongside it alone?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've been in my not all my child bearing
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: years have been in the ten years, but you know
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like the years that I would have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: been in that trying to conceive process have all been
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: with miscarriages being more talked about that I legit cannot
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: imagine ten years ago when they were just something that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you don't really share, and it's like it just seems
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: so wrong.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: It does, right, but yes, he just the times in
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: general changing, like women are really proud of our bodies.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: And when you're pregnant and you no longer have to
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: wear a tent and hydrobelly like you can wear a
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: he's like a normal human being, you know. Yeah, So
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: it's just really I think it's really beautiful the way
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: everything is progressing, and social media in particular giving people
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: a space to process and process grief and not have
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: to process alone, because grief in itself is something that's
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: really traumatic. And what gosh, what she has gone through, right, Jane,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: what they have gone through, It's it's like devastating. It's devastating.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I know, you have to suffer through that alone.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: It's awful to see her go through this when she
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: wanted that baby so bad, Like she just feels it
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in her bones that she's supposed to have for So,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: we'll see where this goes. They did say this week
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that it's up in the air on mother they'll try
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: for another one.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: In other baby news, Whitney Bischoff secretly gives birth to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: baby number two, Welcome's daughter with Ricky Angel, her husband.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: The new baby's name is Brady. Full circle moment here
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Brady Carolina, and she posted on Instagram.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: You were more than we ever expected and better than
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: we could have ever imagined. But she's speaking about like
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: hiding pregnancies and all that. She actually has kept this
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: private because they went through secondary infertility.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Do you have any idea what secondary infertility means?
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't, but I remember she was a fertility.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: She is a she is a fertility nurse, so you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: of all people going through this, I'm sure she had
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a great amount of knowledge along the way. But they
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: had a baby four years ago and they have been trying.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: She said last year that they were just not going
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to give up on this and that Brady Carolina is Carolina.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Brady Carolina is an unexpected miracle after multiple rounds of
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: IVF egg retrievals, doctor visits three losses in an ectopic pregnancy.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And so after all that, they took a break, took
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: some time to heal, and now we're not sure whether
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: or not they started the IVF process or not, or
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that just they conceived naturally. But it's been nine months
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and now the baby is here, and that's just like
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: really awesome. That's so awesome. She documents it all in
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: a reel on Instagram. So happy for them. Yeah, this
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: is a fun headline. Justin Bieber accidentally photo bombs Matt
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: James's season alum Kit Keenan. She was at Hailey Bieber's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: launch at a Krispy Kreme store for her new skincareline,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: wrote Skin, And of course Hailey Bieber's husband, Justin Bieber,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: was there and Kit was doing some little like kitchy
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: thing with like a little Krispy Kreme donut, and in
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: through the frame walks Justin Bieber. And this video of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: her has got almost a million views right now. It
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: got over nine hundred thousand views in just sixteen hours.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And the comments are just like, oh my god, I
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: would have died completely floored. I would have simply passed away,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you know all the things.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm a believer. I would have done it too.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: That's like awesome.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Like she probably was like not planning on getting a
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: picture with Justin, and then there it is.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: She also got a picture with Haley, who.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: She loves, and then finally we just got worried about
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: this about an hour ago.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: It seems as if.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: The Michael Alio and Danielle Malty relationship is could put
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: because while there's been speculation of this four months because
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: they haven't posted each other and they've said some strange
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: things about keeping their relationship now private, you know, after
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: being public for an entire year. But yeah, so she
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: deleted all of her Instagram pictures of him. So if
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that doesn't tell you they're broken up nothing else. Well, Now,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: what I think is really particularly unfortunate about this, Yes,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it was a very meaningful relationship because they both like
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: said I love you for the first time in a
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: long time since like the death of their loved ones.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It's the fact that she moved to Ohio and she
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: just picked up her life, that she'd been living in
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Nashville for quite some time and now she's like settled
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: in Ohio and like, I don't think that she's gonna
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: be happy about that, and like she has I think
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: she may have opened her own medspa there or like
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: she's high in their rings at one there, and it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Ugh, that sucks. How do you feel about that?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: It's also Ohio, not a I'm in Ohio.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like and it was like Akron, Ohio.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: God in comparison to Nashville too. Uh, well, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: there's some beauty in it. She gave it her, all right, Like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: how else would it have worked? One of them had
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: to go to you know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wasn't going to because the child right right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: So you know, maybe she'll find beauty and starting over.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: There maybe, or maybe she'll run back to Nashville. All right, Well,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's only a matter of time now that
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: we get an official announcement from them. Even though they
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: said they're not going to talk probably about the relationship,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I think we can say it's done.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, no reading machine lines.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: No, all right, well, Gianna, it has been a pleasure
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: to have you here. Anything to say about headlines this
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: week or Bachelor Nation going forward?
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: No, but I appreciate you catching me up on all
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the gossip.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Oh good. Thank you watching.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Cooking videos on Instagram to keep up with all the
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: bach the Nation couples. So thank you for filling me in, Ony.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, anytime, all right, Well until then, until we see
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you next time, we'll be rooting for more thirty year
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: olds to hit on you, and we'll also be rooting
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: for you to be the middle aged bachelorette.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: All right, Okay, I'll take it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see you next time. Until then you know
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: how we sign off here. I've been Ashley, I'm Deanna amazing,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: See yah bye.
• 28:26
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