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- 0:07Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there and
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- 0:31Speaker 2: So on this.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Mother's Day edition of the Sooner Later Sports Show, me
- 0:36Speaker 1: and Coop got a lot of fun things to dive into,
- 0:39Speaker 1: like recruiting.
- 0:41Speaker 2: And it's Oklahoma behind or are they right on time?
- 0:45Speaker 1: We'll talk top twenty five because everybody has a post
- 0:47Speaker 1: spring top twenty five. I guess based upon rosters. We
- 0:51Speaker 1: got a new quarterback? What does that actually mean? We'll
- 0:56Speaker 1: close it out talking a lot of thunderbat getball at
- 1:00Speaker 1: the end, Coop, Happy Mother's Day, Happy Sunday.
- 1:04Speaker 2: How are you doing?
- 1:05Speaker 3: Yes, Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there,
- 1:08Speaker 3: and hopefully you guys took care of them and got
- 1:12Speaker 3: some good stuff. But yeah, it's we are plugging away
- 1:16Speaker 3: just as and that's now the thunder game is over,
- 1:21Speaker 3: and now we can kind of get back to talking
- 1:24Speaker 3: about people's list and engagement.
- 1:26Speaker 1: For me, hey, I'm just gonna be honest, I like
- 1:30Speaker 1: to thank them for it, because it's not like we
- 1:32Speaker 1: got anything else to do, right, Like, what else are
- 1:34Speaker 1: we going to do besides you know, get you know,
- 1:37Speaker 1: you know, fight about lists that don't make any sense.
- 1:40Speaker 1: But yeah, shout out happy today to all the mamas,
- 1:42Speaker 1: the baby's mamas, the mama's mama's babies, mama's mamas, all
- 1:46Speaker 1: of them deserve to hear the love from all of us.
- 1:52Speaker 1: We appreciate your riding with us consistently. It is the
- 1:56Speaker 1: off season, so as Coop just mentioned, all, we've got
- 1:58Speaker 1: really ot the list to h to react to. We
- 2:02Speaker 1: may make our own lists later. I don't know, I've
- 2:05Speaker 1: been debating it. It's just, you know, it's not like there's.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Much else going on in the world.
- 2:10Speaker 1: But thank y'all once again, thank y'all for even coming
- 2:14Speaker 1: in here during Mother's Day.
- 2:15Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, I like much.
- 2:17Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's a great holiday, you know,
- 2:20Speaker 1: like you say, Hopefully i'all did something for mom's grandmama,
- 2:23Speaker 1: Auntie Nim.
- 2:25Speaker 2: You took care of them because I typically do.
- 2:27Speaker 1: But Coop, I want to start off. You know what,
- 2:28Speaker 1: Let's start with the most important thing. I love that
- 2:34Speaker 1: Lemon says your pro mom lover.
- 2:35Speaker 2: I totally. He definitely loves on a mama. He is
- 2:39Speaker 2: definitely about that life.
- 2:41Speaker 1: He is a mother lover, loving owned the mother. Tell
- 2:48Speaker 1: missus Lemon have a great Mother's Day as well. Thank
- 2:51Speaker 1: you have Mother's Day to her. Yes, let's talk about
- 2:54Speaker 1: this first, though, Coop, the Oklahoma Sooners landed a quarterback.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Let's talk about that first.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I think that that is an important conversation to have
- 3:05Speaker 1: because I've seen some of y'all hop in the social
- 3:07Speaker 1: media's and lose You'll mind in like literally the worst
- 3:10Speaker 1: way if they needed.
- 3:12Speaker 2: To Oh with new Bauer. The new Bauer.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Is now a Sooner. So Coop, I know you sinked
- 3:25Speaker 1: the film like I did. How'd you feel about the
- 3:31Speaker 1: new Bawer on the roster?
- 3:35Speaker 3: Well, you know, col Gonzalez came in to add another arm.
- 3:39Speaker 3: We've we don't need to delve back into what does
- 3:41Speaker 3: it look like when your starter goes down and you
- 3:43Speaker 3: ain't got nobody behind him, But you needed you needed
- 3:47Speaker 3: somebody out there, and you know, I think having another
- 3:50Speaker 3: quarterback like col Gonzales would have been good because you know,
- 3:54Speaker 3: if you wanted to play around with a red shirt
- 3:56Speaker 3: for Hawkins or you know, just it just you know,
- 3:59Speaker 3: having another arm out there that can save your guys
- 4:02Speaker 3: during the scout season. But but yeah, I mean Colganzalz
- 4:08Speaker 3: is now going to pitt and probably competing for the
- 4:10Speaker 3: starting job. You know, he has that option, and you
- 4:14Speaker 3: know how much more attractive is it that he's coming
- 4:16Speaker 3: off the Oklahoma bench, And so I think it's kind
- 4:19Speaker 3: of the same thing for for for mister Witt here,
- 4:21Speaker 3: so he can come in. You know, I can't remember
- 4:24Speaker 3: who I heard say it, but you know, somebody said,
- 4:27Speaker 3: you know, I don't think that you know, he has
- 4:29Speaker 3: super high ambitions for you know, making it to the
- 4:32Speaker 3: league or anything. But you can come in, you can
- 4:34Speaker 3: learn behind you know, a really really good quarterback and Jometerier,
- 4:38Speaker 3: you can learn behind Ben Arbuckle, and things go your
- 4:42Speaker 3: way next year. You can hit the transfer portal too
- 4:45Speaker 3: if you're wit and you know, maybe lobby yourself in
- 4:48Speaker 3: for a starting job somewhere, like like Cole.
- 4:51Speaker 4: Is heading off to do. You know, he is young.
- 4:54Speaker 3: It's not like he had kind of Baker Mayfield, you know,
- 4:57Speaker 3: freshman year at Texas Tech type of stats. But you know,
- 5:00Speaker 3: it gives you again another arm, maybe a good person
- 5:04Speaker 3: to uh to, you know, looking in the quarterback room
- 5:06Speaker 3: seeing things that you know Hawkins and Materir you know
- 5:10Speaker 3: maybe didn't see too. But it's good. It's good to
- 5:13Speaker 3: have a couple of different arms. And you know it's
- 5:14Speaker 3: a guy who's got some playing time and he can
- 5:17Speaker 3: come in here and you know, grow and get stronger.
- 5:19Speaker 3: And if he wants to go the coaching route, who
- 5:21Speaker 3: better to learn behind than you know, miss Sarbuckle. And
- 5:24Speaker 3: if he wants to maybe leverage this to start somewhere else,
- 5:28Speaker 3: you got that option too.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. I said he's just a little bit different,
- 5:35Speaker 1: And I say that as I agree. We didn't bring
- 5:40Speaker 1: him in to be the start. We've got Jeoon Mateer,
- 5:42Speaker 1: We've got Michael Hawkins who is developing into something pretty solid.
- 5:46Speaker 1: But I watched wit play in that game against Alabama.
- 5:51Speaker 1: He was the starting quarterback when Mersa played them. He
- 5:54Speaker 1: threw a touchdown on him in which you know we
- 5:56Speaker 1: threw more touchdowns because Alabama than we did.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Just fy I. He he.
- 6:05Speaker 1: What's kind of solid, and he's young. He was a
- 6:07Speaker 1: true freshman last year, so you've got three years of
- 6:11Speaker 1: mental development with this kid, who could show that he
- 6:14Speaker 1: has a little bit better capabilities than expected. Well, at
- 6:17Speaker 1: the same time, he has no fear of moving and
- 6:19Speaker 1: running him he's scrambling, he'll run.
- 6:21Speaker 2: And do stuff.
- 6:24Speaker 1: But I'm not saying that he's going to be your
- 6:26Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I'm more so saying that I do like
- 6:29Speaker 1: the idea of having another quarterback. You said it perfectly.
- 6:32Speaker 1: We don't need to have another situation where we ain't
- 6:35Speaker 1: got no quarterback if one and two goes down. That's
- 6:41Speaker 1: kind of what you look at when you pick up
- 6:43Speaker 1: a player like with You don't get him because you
- 6:45Speaker 1: want him to be number one on your squad. You
- 6:49Speaker 1: get him because you need another quarterback just in case,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and he gives you the just in case, which is
- 6:57Speaker 1: what's way more important for us as a program is having.
- 7:01Speaker 2: That just in case. But like I said, he's young.
- 7:05Speaker 2: He comes in basically a year ahead of Jet new.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Same basically the same actually the same class as Michael Hawkins.
- 7:14Speaker 2: So he'll have an opportunity to fight.
- 7:15Speaker 1: For third and be a red shirt. So no, I'm
- 7:19Speaker 1: not saying that he is like the savior of the
- 7:22Speaker 1: squad or game changer of anything. I'm more so telling
- 7:26Speaker 1: you all that you just picked up a quarterback that
- 7:34Speaker 1: it's gonna give you another arm. In practice, he may
- 7:36Speaker 1: actually give you some pretty good reps. Yeah, a quarterback,
- 7:41Speaker 1: which is kind of big. You're gonna need a guy
- 7:43Speaker 1: to be competitive like that.
- 7:47Speaker 3: Well, you look at how Arbuckle does you know call
- 7:50Speaker 3: plays is John Matier is going to take every opportunity.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Uh if read one, read two is locked up, He's
- 7:57Speaker 3: got no issues with pulling the ball down and taking
- 7:59Speaker 3: off SODA's hawkins. And so again you're you're you're, you know,
- 8:04Speaker 3: a twisted ankle, you're a late hit out of bounds
- 8:07Speaker 3: away from you know, just one of these guys, you know,
- 8:10Speaker 3: maybe having a concussion that they need to sit out
- 8:12Speaker 3: a game, and you need to have a solid number
- 8:14Speaker 3: two behind them. And as of right now, you don't
- 8:17Speaker 3: don't know if jet Neu is ready for that. But
- 8:20Speaker 3: I'd rather have jet Neu and Neubauer kind of you know,
- 8:23Speaker 3: pushing each other to become better behind those two.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Yep, me too.
- 8:27Speaker 1: And so now, like I said, you got yourself a
- 8:29Speaker 1: nice quarterback for in practice, got a good arm practice.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Like I said, I watched a lot of that Mercer game,
- 8:41Speaker 1: went through the All twenty two. You can see some
- 8:45Speaker 1: of the throws in the video I did right when
- 8:47Speaker 1: he committed and I I liked it.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I liked his.
- 8:54Speaker 1: I like his his his throwing mechanics. I think he
- 8:57Speaker 1: gets he can take a hit. He's gonna give you
- 9:01Speaker 1: just an additional component. So shout out Oklahoma. You picked
- 9:04Speaker 1: yourself up.
- 9:05Speaker 2: One that you know.
- 9:08Speaker 1: We don't know what it is. But if anything, you've
- 9:11Speaker 1: got your third. You got another arm. Yeah, for later,
- 9:17Speaker 1: that's what's most important.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Speaking of.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Wit and said arm Coop, we got to talk about recruiting.
- 9:30Speaker 1: I felt like today's a good day to do recruiting.
- 9:31Speaker 1: There's not much else going on. Practices are done, spring
- 9:34Speaker 1: is done, kids are out of school. Graduations happened this weekend.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Congratulations to those that did graduate. I think, oh you
- 9:44Speaker 1: dropped a picture of all the folks that did that
- 9:49Speaker 1: hit that graduation button. Let me pull that up for
- 9:54Speaker 1: you all. And so, yeah, we are in the A
- 9:59Speaker 1: much was going on time of the year.
- 10:04Speaker 3: And uh you know, mister Lemon, Uh does the Wit
- 10:07Speaker 3: pool mean that the O'Neal class will stay a one
- 10:11Speaker 3: Q beat the year?
- 10:12Speaker 4: Uh?
- 10:12Speaker 3: You know, I don't I think that going that far
- 10:15Speaker 3: in advance. It's just it's hard to say because I
- 10:21Speaker 3: think we're still waiting for the settlement to drop down.
- 10:23Speaker 3: That's going to have a big play in how you
- 10:26Speaker 3: handle stuff. You know, I would like to say that
- 10:29Speaker 3: they'll probably still look at two arms, you know, depending
- 10:33Speaker 3: on what they feel like about that quarterback room. Uh,
- 10:35Speaker 3: you know, I think that as Wit comes in here,
- 10:37Speaker 3: he'll get a chance to show out. But the last
- 10:40Speaker 3: thing you want to do is have you know, irons
- 10:42Speaker 3: in the fire just in case, you know, you get
- 10:44Speaker 3: a jet new who decides to go back, you know,
- 10:46Speaker 3: go back back back home to Utah and uh, you know,
- 10:49Speaker 3: because uh, you know, that's a very big opportunity. But
- 10:52Speaker 3: I don't think that you can say much. Again, you
- 10:55Speaker 3: want to handle the quarterback room correctly because you don't
- 10:57Speaker 3: want people questioning whether Dylan Gabriel should have stayed for
- 11:01Speaker 3: another year, you know, this past year. You know, that's
- 11:04Speaker 3: gonna happen one way or the other. But yeah, I
- 11:07Speaker 3: think that this gives them this class. They'll worry about
- 11:10Speaker 3: that probably mid season, late season kind of seeing where
- 11:14Speaker 3: everybody's at.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Yeah, the most important thing, like you said, we care
- 11:19Speaker 1: about what's happening right now, like who do we have
- 11:24Speaker 1: on the roster going forward? And which This is kind
- 11:28Speaker 1: of what it feels like this administration is doing this
- 11:31Speaker 1: entire this whole regime. The big shake up with this regime.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Feels like the focus is on as many quality players
- 11:43Speaker 1: as possible on this roster, and that to me is
- 11:47Speaker 1: gonna be your telltale sign of the success of this team.
- 11:50Speaker 1: You don't bring in somebody like Jim Naggy to walk
- 11:57Speaker 1: in and pick up a whole bunch of five stars.
- 12:03Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep that real.
- 12:06Speaker 1: The reason is that every five star does not go pro. Yeah,
- 12:13Speaker 1: every five star is not who you think they are
- 12:16Speaker 1: when they go to the collegiate level.
- 12:18Speaker 2: We've all experienced this.
- 12:21Speaker 1: What you hire a guy like Jim Nagy four is
- 12:26Speaker 1: finding the players with specific NFL traits that his twenty
- 12:31Speaker 1: nine years of experience can expose. You ain't looking for
- 12:36Speaker 1: dudes just to come in. You're not looking for the
- 12:41Speaker 1: easy left. There are some, but you're adding to that
- 12:47Speaker 1: additional traits on top of what the.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Recruiting services are.
- 12:54Speaker 1: I get a lot of people are down on them.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I don't believe that they're trash. I have to disagree
- 12:59Speaker 1: with you there, Boomer one two nine.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I get you.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I get where you're going with that. But it's not
- 13:07Speaker 1: a game that's that you're gonna bat a thousand in.
- 13:10Speaker 1: It's never gonna be that easy to evaluate talent because
- 13:13Speaker 1: there's little components in talent that you don't see, which
- 13:16Speaker 1: them will alert to the NFL When dudes get drafted
- 13:19Speaker 1: in the first round and don't make it, it's that
- 13:22Speaker 1: work ethic. It's the ability to get around the tenth
- 13:28Speaker 1: game of the season and things are tough. How do
- 13:31Speaker 1: they adjust when teams are prepared for them?
- 13:35Speaker 2: Type stuff?
- 13:37Speaker 1: Coaching matters, while at the same time the ability for
- 13:40Speaker 1: players matter too. So you bring in Naggy specifically to
- 13:51Speaker 1: find dudes that are fully overlooked. Now, the thing that
- 13:56Speaker 1: intrigues me the most is how do they find guys
- 14:05Speaker 1: at the high.
- 14:06Speaker 2: School level that will grow into specific.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Body types by that time they leave three to four
- 14:14Speaker 1: years out of college.
- 14:16Speaker 2: That's what intrigued me the most about Naggy.
- 14:20Speaker 4: Yeah, the.
- 14:23Speaker 3: And you started off with this question of you know,
- 14:26Speaker 3: where are we at with recruiting, because it seems really slow.
- 14:29Speaker 3: We're in the fifties, probably not making leaps and bounds currently.
- 14:34Speaker 3: Yet I think that we are getting close towards folks
- 14:39Speaker 3: starting to make declarations or more people's commitment dates. But
- 14:44Speaker 3: we got to think about this way. I mean, they're
- 14:45Speaker 3: still unofficial. I mean they're still official visit season. You know,
- 14:49Speaker 3: we're about to hit the OVS season that's about to happen.
- 14:52Speaker 3: But I think that there has been a lot of
- 14:54Speaker 3: conversations been the coaching staff and Jim Naggie's crew in
- 14:58Speaker 3: finding trans ladable skill sets and measurables that are going
- 15:03Speaker 3: to be things that puts you in a better spot
- 15:06Speaker 3: to go to the NFL. And uh, you know, it's
- 15:10Speaker 3: it's again. You're you're you look like. One of the
- 15:13Speaker 3: people who is getting a lot of questions on is
- 15:16Speaker 3: Mason James. Uh, you know, quarterback right from our ride receiver,
- 15:20Speaker 3: right from your backyard. And we've kind of came off
- 15:24Speaker 3: of him a little bit here recently, and everybody's wondering,
- 15:27Speaker 3: what hold on a second, Well, what's going on?
- 15:30Speaker 4: Well, I think that when you look at a guy
- 15:31Speaker 4: like himself.
- 15:33Speaker 3: He is a really really good football player right at
- 15:35Speaker 3: the high school level. At this point, we haven't seen
- 15:37Speaker 3: what he does in college. But when you produce some
- 15:40Speaker 3: projection stuff of it seems like they're looking towards those
- 15:44Speaker 3: guys like Elijah Thomas, you know, a six foot one,
- 15:48Speaker 3: you know, close to you know, the upper one hundreds
- 15:51Speaker 3: getting up there towards two hundred. You want guys who
- 15:54Speaker 3: are good route runners with great speed, and you don't
- 15:57Speaker 3: want to see things where you know, maybe there's a
- 16:00Speaker 3: spot to where he you know, is projecting in an
- 16:04Speaker 3: upper four five really with pads on, or maybe it's
- 16:07Speaker 3: a guy who's a blazing guy, but he's a five,
- 16:10Speaker 3: you know, five to nine guy, and you want to
- 16:12Speaker 3: get more of the like because yes, are there five
- 16:16Speaker 3: nine receivers and five ten receivers that are blazing and
- 16:18Speaker 3: have done great in the NFL. Yes, but it's more
- 16:24Speaker 3: likely that those guys are going to be bigger bodied guys.
- 16:26Speaker 3: Uh you know, ball control, good body control, and so
- 16:31Speaker 3: those are the things that these guys are looking for,
- 16:33Speaker 3: because uh, I think you go out and in the
- 16:35Speaker 3: next couple of years, if we have a couple of
- 16:37Speaker 3: lower recruiting classes. But the field shows that, uh, that
- 16:41Speaker 3: talent is trading into the SEC, then some of those
- 16:44Speaker 3: upper you know, upper ranked guys are going to start
- 16:47Speaker 3: going to a hold on a second. You know, if
- 16:49Speaker 3: you're doing that with this, well, you know what, what
- 16:51Speaker 3: can they do with me? And that's when a five
- 16:54Speaker 3: star you know, doesn't ask for the moon in I
- 16:57Speaker 3: L up front. And then you also have a couple
- 16:59Speaker 3: of other things going on, you know, in the next
- 17:01Speaker 3: couple of weeks to where maybe that stuff gets a
- 17:03Speaker 3: little bit more regulated. So I'm not saying that the
- 17:07Speaker 3: nil has everything to do with this, but if you
- 17:10Speaker 3: want to get the you know, the effective you know,
- 17:14Speaker 3: juice out of your squeeze, then nagg is the guy
- 17:16Speaker 3: who you hire to do that.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what it is. And you have to make
- 17:20Speaker 2: the determining.
- 17:21Speaker 1: You get to answer your question to yourself is the
- 17:24Speaker 1: juice worth the squeeze on some players?
- 17:27Speaker 2: That's what's critical.
- 17:28Speaker 1: And I like this point here, my boy John over
- 17:31Speaker 1: ebamination was good. John, thank you for pulling up in
- 17:34Speaker 1: the X. There is so much recruiting still going on.
- 17:38Speaker 1: We ain't at the end, Like a lot of people
- 17:41Speaker 1: are trying to say that we're at the end of
- 17:44Speaker 1: we're not we're not official visit seasons about to start,
- 17:50Speaker 1: and a lot of people are leaning heavy in on
- 17:55Speaker 1: June visits late July. Well, I don't know if late
- 18:02Speaker 1: July it will be early August this time around, because
- 18:04Speaker 1: if I'm correct, the thirty first it's considered a dead
- 18:08Speaker 1: period date. But the first you've still got a lot
- 18:16Speaker 1: of that a lot of time, So we've got a
- 18:19Speaker 1: bunch of time. But Oklahoma is not recruiting like they
- 18:26Speaker 1: used to. No, there's a lot of as a combination
- 18:30Speaker 1: of which. This is the only thing I don't like
- 18:34Speaker 1: about how we're doing it, And I'll be honest with
- 18:37Speaker 1: you all as I always am honest with you all
- 18:39Speaker 1: when we talk about this stuff.
- 18:40Speaker 2: But the one.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Thing I don't like is that we're getting ourselves ahead
- 18:48Speaker 1: of the settlement stuff. Yeah, we are preparing ourselves for
- 18:55Speaker 1: when all of.
- 18:57Speaker 2: This ish changes and everybody's got to figure stuff out.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Because by some of these teams getting a lot of
- 19:05Speaker 1: their deals in early, they think they're gonna be able
- 19:07Speaker 1: to be buzzers. But that don't mean that there's gonna
- 19:12Speaker 1: be some The changes are gonna make it a little
- 19:15Speaker 1: bit tougher to do some of the stuff that they're
- 19:18Speaker 1: doing going forward, and recruiting never ends a thank you limit.
- 19:23Speaker 1: It never does, never will. Not the wrong with that though,
- 19:27Speaker 1: it's I mean, these kids taking advantage of the system's
- 19:31Speaker 1: place put in place, and they're just getting paid based
- 19:33Speaker 1: upon the market value that these schools are deciding that
- 19:37Speaker 1: they want to pay.
- 19:38Speaker 2: Now we're seeing though SMU is cooking.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Yeah talk uh talk Kata that Coop had interview not
- 19:48Speaker 1: too long ago has just committed to SMU. So one
- 19:52Speaker 1: of the other targets that Oklama's going after.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Staying it in state long term will be one.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I just want to preface with a lot of people
- 20:06Speaker 1: that you can't expect Oklahoma to bring in a guy.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Like Naggy who doesn't.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Pass like twenty something twenty plus years of experience, almost
- 20:20Speaker 1: thirty years of experience, and think that the only thing
- 20:25Speaker 1: he's gonna do is say, hey, let's just go after
- 20:27Speaker 1: every single five start it exists, because no one ever
- 20:29Speaker 1: feels that role washing with only of those you gotta
- 20:32Speaker 1: find all those players that Again, the thing that interests
- 20:36Speaker 1: me the most is how's he gonna figure out those
- 20:38Speaker 1: those NFL traits on bodies that aren't built NFL ready yet,
- 20:43Speaker 1: And how's he gonna be able to distinguish those that
- 20:45Speaker 1: have that have close to NFL bodies and have already
- 20:48Speaker 1: hit their hit their ceiling. That's where I'm the most intrigued.
- 20:53Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting to see how we go
- 20:56Speaker 1: through that.
- 20:57Speaker 2: But the portal. Expect the portal be a heavy mechanism
- 21:00Speaker 2: for this team.
- 21:03Speaker 4: I think so.
- 21:03Speaker 3: And again I think you can trust in that, you know,
- 21:07Speaker 3: the spring portal really wasn't too uh too flooded here
- 21:12Speaker 3: this go round, and I expect that, you know, next
- 21:14Speaker 3: year you're probably going to see a little bit more
- 21:16Speaker 3: in the in the in the the winter portal. But
- 21:20Speaker 3: uh yeah, the interviews aren't looking too good here this year.
- 21:24Speaker 3: I think we've lost two of the last three guys
- 21:26Speaker 3: already with Alshore Miles and uh and toa but s
- 21:31Speaker 3: m u h. I mean, there was a reason that
- 21:34Speaker 3: you know, they found themselves in the death penalty at
- 21:36Speaker 3: one point, and it's because a lot of people had
- 21:38Speaker 3: a lot of money and they were willing to give
- 21:39Speaker 3: it for the football program. And and there's a there's
- 21:44Speaker 3: a good amount of money being tossed around and you
- 21:46Speaker 3: know SMU's no no, no, you know, no short shakes
- 21:51Speaker 3: with them because I mean they just went to the
- 21:53Speaker 3: playoffs and you know they had their name in that conversation.
- 21:56Speaker 3: They went at the A C. C and showed out.
- 22:00Speaker 3: And so now you've got a little proof of concept
- 22:02Speaker 3: to go with some dollars and guys are going to
- 22:04Speaker 3: start making that uh making that run. So uh you
- 22:08Speaker 3: know it is is what it is. And that's one
- 22:10Speaker 3: thing is if you're gonna go with Naggie half the way,
- 22:12Speaker 3: you got to go all because he's not going to
- 22:15Speaker 3: uh uh he has a different value system. And I
- 22:18Speaker 3: would liken it to you know how Bill Belichick used
- 22:21Speaker 3: to you know, organize and you know, put the Patriots together.
- 22:24Speaker 3: They always had some dude who played quarterback at uh,
- 22:28Speaker 3: you know, Kinnessaul Southern State University. And you know, now
- 22:32Speaker 3: he comes in and all of a sudden is a
- 22:34Speaker 3: terrific slot receiver. Yeah, you know, and so you've got
- 22:37Speaker 3: things like that. You also have situations with you know,
- 22:39Speaker 3: the thunder. I mean I think that they look at
- 22:42Speaker 3: a lot of treatable stuff too, and you know, make
- 22:44Speaker 3: a lot of moves that no one's all coming and
- 22:46Speaker 3: so you got to kind of trust in Naggie in
- 22:48Speaker 3: this situation. And you know, if the portals a little
- 22:51Speaker 3: bit more of a clear pathway, you know, you can
- 22:54Speaker 3: go get guys who didn't want to sit behind uh
- 22:57Speaker 3: you know, two or three more years. And you know
- 22:59Speaker 3: it's going to be like that throughout the entire college
- 23:01Speaker 3: football because guys don't want to wait if they feel
- 23:04Speaker 3: like they can compete right now, yep.
- 23:06Speaker 1: And looking at the way, looking at the way that
- 23:14Speaker 1: Naggie looks at talent and what he's looking for. Yeah,
- 23:19Speaker 1: the key thing to me is it's gonna be very
- 23:26Speaker 1: intriguing how and as they add more staff members what
- 23:31Speaker 1: that's gonna look like with finding those players now. Unfortunately
- 23:36Speaker 1: for Oklahoma, I'll say this, for like Bama with Courtney
- 23:40Speaker 1: Morgan as their GM and some of the others with
- 23:44Speaker 1: their gms, the minute they follow somebody, we know.
- 23:50Speaker 3: Yeah, And I will say this, I think that I
- 23:55Speaker 3: think this class this year is going to be something
- 23:58Speaker 3: that's not going to it's not going to push top ten.
- 24:01Speaker 3: I mean it's I think it's going to be a
- 24:03Speaker 3: little bit of a lackluster class this year. So I
- 24:05Speaker 3: want just everybody to you know, to expect that. I
- 24:08Speaker 3: really do. I don't think it's going to be a
- 24:10Speaker 3: big class. I think that we're still doing a lot
- 24:12Speaker 3: of we still have a lot of young talent, and
- 24:14Speaker 3: so it's it's hard for someone to look at the
- 24:17Speaker 3: defensive backfield and go, uh, there's not a clear path there,
- 24:21Speaker 3: and there is over here, and there is over here,
- 24:24Speaker 3: and so that's that's you got to put some winning together.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Winning is going to cure a lot of things. And
- 24:30Speaker 3: though I don't think that there's going to be a
- 24:32Speaker 3: lot of opportunity for switching guys mid season if we
- 24:34Speaker 3: run off a really good season, but it's going to
- 24:36Speaker 3: make some of these twenty seven kids all of a
- 24:38Speaker 3: sudden start taking notice.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Yep, a lot of them are looking at that there.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Of course, most of these kids no different than when
- 24:45Speaker 1: they were actually being recruited before even this era portal and.
- 24:48Speaker 2: All of that.
- 24:48Speaker 1: They're looking for paths to play and kids transferred before
- 24:55Speaker 1: all of this.
- 24:55Speaker 2: It just got bigger when.
- 24:58Speaker 1: When it was more p people that decided that now
- 25:01Speaker 1: I'm not going to stay here memberhood and run. I mean,
- 25:03Speaker 1: remember Oklahoma has had three straight transfer quarterbacks in a row.
- 25:08Speaker 1: And then you had to recruit, and then you had
- 25:13Speaker 1: more transfer quarterbacks. Two at the last three years, you
- 25:17Speaker 1: had a transfer quarterback in the games the game back. Yeah,
- 25:22Speaker 1: two out of three, maybe three out of four.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Good ones. Good ones.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Will stick around and grow because they recognize an opportunity.
- 25:39Speaker 1: But and then, of course, really good ones sometimes realized that,
- 25:42Speaker 1: I mean had perfect examples back. Yeah, think about it
- 25:47Speaker 1: with him, like he should have stated at Georgia, But
- 25:53Speaker 1: I don't know if Georgia would have taken him back.
- 25:55Speaker 2: I'm keep it in the buck.
- 25:57Speaker 1: It's a lot of both sides when it comes to this,
- 25:59Speaker 1: and I size that heavy. Like so many people complain
- 26:02Speaker 1: about the transfer portal, Like I totally understand. You can
- 26:04Speaker 1: plain about the transfer portal. I can't understand in a way,
- 26:08Speaker 1: but and how you would like it abolished. But I
- 26:10Speaker 1: want you to remember if that means it can't be
- 26:12Speaker 1: a opposite direction, which is basically the counterpoint schools with
- 26:17Speaker 1: some of these kids out like it ain't gonna work
- 26:21Speaker 1: and go hand go with the younger guy.
- 26:22Speaker 2: If you want to stay.
- 26:25Speaker 4: Be cool, Yeah you're not.
- 26:27Speaker 3: I mean you're not going to as a as a
- 26:30Speaker 3: high caliber player. Also, like you got to understand that,
- 26:33Speaker 3: like if you are a guy like a Dylan Gabriel
- 26:35Speaker 3: or a Carson back and you've got a five star
- 26:38Speaker 3: guy coming up behind you, and you know, the coach
- 26:41Speaker 3: staff says, hey, listen, this is part of the game,
- 26:44Speaker 3: this is part of everything. And you know, we're willing
- 26:46Speaker 3: to have an open quarterback competition. Uh, you know, we
- 26:48Speaker 3: would like for Jackson to start. We would like for
- 26:53Speaker 3: you know, a new quarterback to start and uh go
- 26:55Speaker 3: a different direction and uh, you know, if you want
- 26:58Speaker 3: to stick around, you can do that. And then someone's
- 26:59Speaker 3: gonna come and say, well, I got I got like
- 27:02Speaker 3: a million and a half. If you come over here
- 27:04Speaker 3: and we don't have anybody to compete with you, I mean,
- 27:06Speaker 3: you're gonna bounce, and you know, we'll see if guys
- 27:10Speaker 3: like you know, Quinn yours Quinn, youwrers could have probably
- 27:13Speaker 3: It's fort somewhere and made himself more money than he's
- 27:15Speaker 3: gonna make this year, you know, just coming up this
- 27:19Speaker 3: next year, and I would like to it'd have been
- 27:21Speaker 3: so good to see him and go somewhere and have
- 27:24Speaker 3: to play Texas that have been terrific. But nonetheless, he'll
- 27:27Speaker 3: be down in Miami doing his thing down there.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Yeah, he will be. He's gonna have some fun down
- 27:35Speaker 2: there in Miami and we'll see if he lives up
- 27:39Speaker 2: to who he was.
- 27:40Speaker 1: But they got pulling up, hit the light button, new
- 27:44Speaker 1: to the channel, subscribe rate review, give us five. So
- 27:54Speaker 1: we got to talk some of these real quick. This
- 27:56Speaker 1: was all populated. Everybody's kind of you know, pointing out
- 27:59Speaker 1: that Oklahoma has uh, the road to okay See has
- 28:04Speaker 1: has been selected. The Sooner ladies on the softball field
- 28:08Speaker 1: have been have been given a two seed.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Yep, it makes pretty it makes perfect sense. You have
- 28:16Speaker 3: a better record than A and M. You won the
- 28:19Speaker 3: conference that A and M plays in, and uh, you know,
- 28:22Speaker 3: I think a lot of people were excited because I
- 28:25Speaker 3: think some words came out that if a rain out
- 28:28Speaker 3: happened and OU was going to be awarded the trophy,
- 28:30Speaker 3: and then it was a co branded deal, a co trophy,
- 28:34Speaker 3: co tournament champions, And so again, I fully think that
- 28:38Speaker 3: Patty is going to turn this into some kind of a.
- 28:43Speaker 4: Some kind of an opportunity, you know.
- 28:45Speaker 3: All right, you know, they said we're not the same,
- 28:48Speaker 3: They said that it ain't us anymore. Let's go out
- 28:50Speaker 3: and do this. But I mean, if you take a
- 28:52Speaker 3: look at A and M in Oklahoma. I mean that's uh,
- 28:54Speaker 3: those guys are right there, right there together, and uh,
- 28:58Speaker 3: you know, this is the first time, what is it
- 29:00Speaker 3: four years that we've gone into the tournament and you're like, Okay,
- 29:03Speaker 3: this is not going to just be a walk through. Uh,
- 29:06Speaker 3: this is going to be an actual, an actual, uh
- 29:09Speaker 3: you know, tournament for for this team. And you got
- 29:13Speaker 3: great players playing. But you know, look how cool this is.
- 29:17Speaker 3: You know Sec one, two, three, and four.
- 29:22Speaker 4: It's not.
- 29:23Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be a fun tournament. It's
- 29:24Speaker 3: going to be an absolutely fun tournament.
- 29:26Speaker 2: And all.
- 29:29Speaker 3: But one team, all but one team in and we
- 29:32Speaker 3: want the conference.
- 29:34Speaker 2: We won the conference. Goodness gracious, Oklahoma. They're gonna cook
- 29:39Speaker 2: and then hopefully the guy.
- 29:40Speaker 1: The guys will probably get around seventeen, unless they can
- 29:44Speaker 1: upset Texas in their series.
- 29:47Speaker 2: In baseball to.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Get Texas's pitching is is kind of hit a little
- 29:54Speaker 3: bit of a wall. The pitching is it has not
- 29:56Speaker 3: been super terrific here the past couple of weeks. And
- 30:00Speaker 3: you know that's that's from talking to some Texas guys
- 30:03Speaker 3: and so uh, Diamond Sports. I mean, both teams are
- 30:05Speaker 3: going to be doing it for the guys. You need
- 30:09Speaker 3: you absolutely need more than one player to to to
- 30:13Speaker 3: ball out. You need more than one pitcher that is
- 30:17Speaker 3: you know, hopefully get talking back at some point. But yeah,
- 30:21Speaker 3: I think it's gonna come down what is oh you
- 30:23Speaker 3: get pitching wise from uh Sam for the girls? And
- 30:28Speaker 3: who is going to be you know, is it going
- 30:30Speaker 3: to be Lowry? Is it gonna be Christen Deal? Who
- 30:32Speaker 3: is going to be the number two person? And can
- 30:34Speaker 3: you really go into a game because I don't think
- 30:36Speaker 3: Sam Landry is going to be able to throw every
- 30:38Speaker 3: single day game, and even when she does throw, she's
- 30:41Speaker 3: gonna have to be, you know, on her game. But
- 30:44Speaker 3: it's gonna come down to pitching on both the diamond sports.
- 30:46Speaker 3: Can you get your your two and three guys on
- 30:49Speaker 3: baseball and can you get your number two on softball
- 30:52Speaker 3: really going? And then timely hitting with softball and baseball.
- 30:55Speaker 3: I know that the hitting has been up and down
- 30:56Speaker 3: on both sides, so but both of them have shots there.
- 30:59Speaker 3: Both of them are built to make some to make
- 31:01Speaker 3: some noise in these tournaments.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be fun for us to play in
- 31:09Speaker 1: in in in this the region. As you can see,
- 31:11Speaker 1: I put the regionals up. Well, whole scowls at Omaha.
- 31:15Speaker 2: And what is that uh.
- 31:18Speaker 4: That Boston Butler Butler built belongs? Is it Butler?
- 31:25Speaker 1: No, it's not Butler Butler's blue that maybe I think
- 31:28Speaker 1: that's I think that is I think that's Boston.
- 31:32Speaker 2: I get here.
- 31:35Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not playing any games in Georgia.
- 31:37Speaker 2: I think it's there in Boston, Boston Terriers.
- 31:42Speaker 4: Oh there you go.
- 31:44Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Didn't know that they had a softball team or a college.
- 31:49Speaker 1: You know, you know you yeah, yeah, you learn a lot,
- 31:54Speaker 1: you learn a lot.
- 32:00Speaker 2: So yeah, you see.
- 32:01Speaker 4: The two seed is disrespectful.
- 32:03Speaker 3: You know. I'm I'm not a massive, massive like into this,
- 32:09Speaker 3: you know, just especially at this point in the season.
- 32:11Speaker 3: But there's there's nothing oh you did to not say
- 32:15Speaker 3: hey until someone knocks us off, you know, why not
- 32:17Speaker 3: put us there? Because you know, if this was like
- 32:19Speaker 3: if this was uh, you know, South Carolina as the
- 32:22Speaker 3: two seed and Duke is the one seed, you know,
- 32:25Speaker 3: opportunity and you know college basketball, you know they're gonna
- 32:28Speaker 3: put you know, similar records. They're gonna put Duke there
- 32:30Speaker 3: because the name and uh but again, oh, you can't
- 32:33Speaker 3: win on the road. Uh, They gotta they gotta play
- 32:36Speaker 3: tournaments in their home state. So they just they went
- 32:38Speaker 3: that route and then it's uh, oh use o us done.
- 32:41Speaker 3: They're they're done for there's no chance to be able
- 32:43Speaker 3: to compete in the SEC. Well that's well, that's that's over.
- 32:46Speaker 3: So there's the haters are gonna come out. Nobody likes
- 32:49Speaker 3: this team to we are the villains. And that's the
- 32:52Speaker 3: one thing that this team is gonna have to take
- 32:54Speaker 3: that mantle of is you're no longer the up and comers.
- 32:56Speaker 3: Now you're the villains. It's the old Batman adage. You know,
- 32:59Speaker 3: you either to die a hero or live long enough
- 33:02Speaker 3: to see yourself become the villain. And I think that's
- 33:04Speaker 3: what the softball team has kind of ran into now,
- 33:06Speaker 3: especially with their just unbridled passion.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Yeah, unbridled passion. I like that. I like that.
- 33:14Speaker 1: So now they've got bulletin board material, they better use
- 33:17Speaker 1: that stuff.
- 33:19Speaker 3: Oh listen, I think I think that them getting the
- 33:24Speaker 3: two seats just the epitome of the you know, the
- 33:27Speaker 3: Oklahoma softball season this year is what is you went?
- 33:30Speaker 4: What was the record? Seven losses? Was it seven losses? Yeah?
- 33:33Speaker 4: Seven losses?
- 33:34Speaker 3: Right, and uh, there's a lot of people wondering if
- 33:37Speaker 3: OU softball is seeing its end. And you just were
- 33:41Speaker 3: the best team and the best conference and won the
- 33:44Speaker 3: conference and uh, you know had to share the championship.
- 33:48Speaker 3: So it is this team's going to use it. And
- 33:51Speaker 3: you know, if I'm Paddy Gassaw, I'm telling them, all right,
- 33:54Speaker 3: you guys are part of a legacy. But now it's
- 33:56Speaker 3: time to write our own story. And you can go
- 33:58Speaker 3: out and you can do that your play and you're
- 34:00Speaker 3: playing in front of your home crowd. You're going to
- 34:02Speaker 3: have the crowds there. It's going to be legit. And
- 34:06Speaker 3: you got to take it one game at a time.
- 34:08Speaker 3: And they got to show the resiliency that they showed. Yeah,
- 34:11Speaker 3: I mean, you can't win tomorrow. You got to play today.
- 34:14Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean they show the resiliency being down
- 34:17Speaker 3: six to one coming back and you know, winning that
- 34:19Speaker 3: game against Arkansas. It's this team has got the juice
- 34:23Speaker 3: for it. You know, yes, not everybody's batting four hundred,
- 34:28Speaker 3: but everybody is. Everybody is definitely capable of, you know,
- 34:33Speaker 3: doing something big at the plate.
- 34:36Speaker 1: See Coop the the resident baseball expert. Everybody came bit
- 34:42Speaker 1: four hundred. So yeah, I like that they got for
- 34:45Speaker 1: pulling up, hit the like button, neutro, the channel, subscribe
- 34:48Speaker 1: rate review, give us those fives got another quarterback recruiting,
- 34:54Speaker 1: we talked about the Naggy effect and all those changes.
- 34:57Speaker 1: I will start roster breakdowns probably begin June.
- 35:01Speaker 2: I got a lot of things to.
- 35:03Speaker 1: Truly talk about players that we feel like and jump out.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Me and John also talking about it over there on
- 35:10Speaker 1: locked on as soon as you can check that out
- 35:12Speaker 1: here on the tubes.
- 35:12Speaker 2: But me cool, We're gonna.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Talk about these top twenty fives. Though, who do you
- 35:16Speaker 1: want first?
- 35:18Speaker 2: Do you want just hop into that?
- 35:21Speaker 4: I just don't want.
- 35:22Speaker 3: I want nothing to do with the receiver prediction because
- 35:25Speaker 3: last year we did the receiver film and I think
- 35:28Speaker 3: we finished at four and then we got the message
- 35:31Speaker 3: on Jayden Gibson at like four forty five.
- 35:33Speaker 2: Fair, fair, fair, I'll.
- 35:36Speaker 3: Just set out that one. But no, let's do Piquel.
- 35:40Speaker 3: I feel like, does he deserve Kel is a guy
- 35:44Speaker 3: who again right now, it's engagement farming when college football
- 35:51Speaker 3: dies down for a lot of people, it's twenty four
- 35:54Speaker 3: to seven, but it's still not at the NFL's level
- 35:57Speaker 3: because a lot of people don't really care about recruiting.
- 35:59Speaker 3: They the program game one and or you know, at
- 36:03Speaker 3: the end of fall practice. But this is engagement farming
- 36:08Speaker 3: for the for the for everybody. They need us to
- 36:10Speaker 3: be pissed off because oh you has the you know,
- 36:13Speaker 3: two hundred and eleventh best quarterback in the country or
- 36:16Speaker 3: something like that, or oh you you know is either
- 36:18Speaker 3: rated too high or too low. You know that you
- 36:21Speaker 3: get a double if you do anything high for Texas
- 36:23Speaker 3: because you know you're going to get five or six
- 36:26Speaker 3: fan bases that are going to chirp in there. So
- 36:29Speaker 3: it's uh, you know, hey, this list means how much
- 36:32Speaker 3: for game one?
- 36:33Speaker 4: For us?
- 36:35Speaker 3: Nothing okay, nothing, okay, just making sure that you had
- 36:38Speaker 3: the same figures that I had. So uh, it means nothing.
- 36:41Speaker 3: But so if if you, if you want to, we'll
- 36:44Speaker 3: do our group therapy here on Sunday nights to talk
- 36:46Speaker 3: about these jokers.
- 36:48Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I'd say, don't don't give them
- 36:50Speaker 4: what they're asking for exactly, so I don't press in.
- 36:54Speaker 1: You want We're going to start with, right, don't preceine. Actually,
- 36:56Speaker 1: the one thing I like Hermit would say it, I
- 36:58Speaker 1: actually used to have that pend on my person X
- 37:00Speaker 1: account all the time was just don't press hand.
- 37:03Speaker 2: I've done a really good job. Let me rephrase that.
- 37:07Speaker 1: I used to do a really good job of that,
- 37:09Speaker 1: and now I need to get back to it. But
- 37:11Speaker 1: don't press send has been a strong one on unfair
- 37:14Speaker 1: sports Towne.
- 37:15Speaker 2: So we'll start with JD. Piquel. We'll transition into Joel Klatt,
- 37:22Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna let y'all lose y'all's mind on
- 37:26Speaker 2: Andy Staples. Paquel, I'm sorry, that's Staples. Y'all get paqul first, Paquel.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Because Oklahoma said that nineteenth, which is pretty dark consistent
- 37:44Speaker 1: for us since like beav took over, feels like nineteen
- 37:50Speaker 1: is the spot. Nineteen twenty ish Michigan right behind us,
- 37:56Speaker 1: which is interesting, Old Miss Tennessee right above us, still
- 38:01Speaker 1: like a and m. South Carolina at nine feels like
- 38:05Speaker 1: a choice, doesn't feel like there's much logic there. Alabama
- 38:11Speaker 1: at eleven interesting, elish Georgia. But I'm gonna go ahead
- 38:16Speaker 1: and give y'all my grape. I have one complaint about
- 38:23Speaker 1: every single one of these cooping is very simple. The
- 38:29Speaker 1: defending champions should be number one.
- 38:32Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care what changes I don't
- 38:37Speaker 2: care the defending champion on all all posts.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Season polls or top twenty fives or power rankings, and
- 38:54Speaker 1: the number one team should be the defending champions, And
- 38:57Speaker 1: I don't care how much doount they lose. That doesn't
- 38:59Speaker 1: mean that they're not gonna be replenished, up and ready
- 39:01Speaker 1: to go. Doesn't mean the people that's right behind them
- 39:04Speaker 1: aren't ready to go. The number one team should always
- 39:09Speaker 1: be the defending champions.
- 39:10Speaker 2: But Coop, I'll let you start what you think.
- 39:12Speaker 3: I disagree with you. You know, it may sound like I'm
- 39:19Speaker 3: may sound like I'm doubling back on what I just
- 39:20Speaker 3: said about the softball team, but that's at the end
- 39:22Speaker 3: of the season, and their proof concept shows that they're
- 39:25Speaker 3: still the best team. But with this one, I think
- 39:28Speaker 3: Ohio State does lose a ton and last year means nothing.
- 39:32Speaker 4: For this year.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Look at Florida State this past year. You know they
- 39:36Speaker 3: should have played for a national championship, and if not
- 39:39Speaker 3: for them, we would have had even more angst towards
- 39:42Speaker 3: US than Florida State. But listen, I it would Paquel
- 39:48Speaker 3: vote this way on August twenty third. I can't say yes,
- 39:56Speaker 3: but let's just be honest. I mean, you look at
- 39:59Speaker 3: the beginning, and the top five makes sense until number five,
- 40:05Speaker 3: I think. But you know, Texas, there's a lot of
- 40:07Speaker 3: hype around the quarterback. Ohio State just won the national Championships.
- 40:11Speaker 3: They got to keep him right there, right, Penn State
- 40:13Speaker 3: Drew Aller, a lot of excitement around him, Cade Club
- 40:16Speaker 3: Nick a lot of excitement around him. But then the
- 40:19Speaker 3: quarterback stuff kind of disappears until South Carolina and LSU
- 40:24Speaker 3: because everybody else I guess Sam Levitt with the Arizona State.
- 40:28Speaker 3: But there's just not much rhyme or reason on this.
- 40:32Speaker 3: I mean, Texas is bringing losing what was it sixty
- 40:36Speaker 3: percent of their production from last year? Offensive line? You know,
- 40:41Speaker 3: you don't bring back offensive or defensive line.
- 40:43Speaker 4: You know, just in in.
- 40:45Speaker 3: Totality, Ohio State lost the damn kitchen, lost the farm,
- 40:50Speaker 3: lost the guest bedroom, they lost everything. So again this
- 40:55Speaker 3: is up for grabs, up for conversation. Now, you know
- 40:58Speaker 3: there's excitement going around and excitement going around Nebraska. Why
- 41:03Speaker 3: not throw them in Auburn? Did they find their quarterback?
- 41:05Speaker 3: I guess nobody puts two and two together there South Carolina.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Yet again, what have we done to show that we're
- 41:12Speaker 3: should be there. So in Tennessee, you lost your quarterback,
- 41:15Speaker 3: you replace them with, you know, a potential lesser guy.
- 41:19Speaker 3: You know, why do you have them right there?
- 41:21Speaker 4: Ole miss? Are they going to throw out their quarterback?
- 41:23Speaker 3: And then you on top of that, you lost your
- 41:25Speaker 3: best defensive player in Walter Nolan?
- 41:27Speaker 2: You know.
- 41:27Speaker 3: So it's there's there's so many questions right there. So
- 41:30Speaker 3: what does this mean? Does it say there's a bunch
- 41:33Speaker 3: of questions for each team? And I feel like in
- 41:36Speaker 3: the portal they addressed them. So I feel like those
- 41:38Speaker 3: questions are answered. Yeah, if you want to look at
- 41:41Speaker 3: that way, sure, go for it. Does that mean anything
- 41:44Speaker 3: for gain time on August twenty eighth, twenty ninth, you
- 41:47Speaker 3: know when season opens, No, it means nothing.
- 41:49Speaker 2: So, but I will.
- 41:52Speaker 4: Say this is yeah.
- 41:53Speaker 3: I mean, if you're just going to say in general,
- 41:56Speaker 3: like you know, stay the champ until you knocked off,
- 42:00Speaker 3: I think so. But I think when you when you
- 42:02Speaker 3: lose the farm, uh, that's that's hard. But so did
- 42:05Speaker 3: Texas and they're right there, so.
- 42:07Speaker 2: You're every every time.
- 42:09Speaker 1: And that's my point. If you're gonna do that, it
- 42:13Speaker 1: should be the defending champions. It's not like they're Robson.
- 42:16Speaker 1: They lost a lot of starters like Michigan did last year,
- 42:20Speaker 1: you know, going into last season after they won the Natty.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Totally get that, but Ohio State always loses a lot
- 42:25Speaker 1: of players. That is like a factory of teams, one
- 42:27Speaker 1: of the many factories in college football that just sens
- 42:30Speaker 1: dues to the league.
- 42:31Speaker 2: But it's wild. But that's why.
- 42:35Speaker 1: That's why I disagree on that part is they're ain't
- 42:40Speaker 1: a single reason why Ohio State should be number two,
- 42:43Speaker 1: Like there's no Logest careers argument. I think the Texas
- 42:45Speaker 1: argument's gonna be one arch Manning. Why are we doing this?
- 42:50Speaker 1: Why are we saying that only arch Manning is the
- 42:56Speaker 1: reason why they should be number one? Because the funny
- 42:58Speaker 1: thing is is when they play each other, we will
- 43:00Speaker 1: have an answer.
- 43:02Speaker 2: We won of the season. Yeah, and I expect that
- 43:06Speaker 2: Ohios defense to still be stout.
- 43:09Speaker 4: I think so too.
- 43:10Speaker 2: So still there exactly.
- 43:13Speaker 1: They still got a lot of dudes on that defense.
- 43:17Speaker 1: And their question is similar to texas As what is
- 43:20Speaker 1: the offense gonna look like? So I think because Texas
- 43:24Speaker 1: returns a lot of the key players that they need,
- 43:27Speaker 1: they've got one dude at every single position. Except for
- 43:30Speaker 1: interior defensive line coming back. I mean from Colin Simmons
- 43:34Speaker 1: to Anthony Hill to Malik Muhammad to Michael Tafi. So
- 43:40Speaker 1: you've got one at each level. For interior, Ohio State,
- 43:45Speaker 1: like you said, they got Caleb Downson. To be absolutely
- 43:47Speaker 1: honest about all you need in that secondary. That dude
- 43:49Speaker 1: just goes everywhere and they live in the edge. They've
- 43:53Speaker 1: always got edge players, They've always got interior guys.
- 43:57Speaker 2: They don't have to live in a portal for theirs, dudes.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Estion is going to be who's throwing the ball on
- 44:01Speaker 1: both sides of the ball and if they're going to
- 44:02Speaker 1: be able to compete.
- 44:03Speaker 2: But off of those two.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Clemson at number four is interesting to me because I
- 44:10Speaker 1: one hundred percent think Clemson should be third. Now, Penn
- 44:19Speaker 1: State has a great argument. They got both their running
- 44:21Speaker 1: backs back and their starting quarterback and Drew Aler, but
- 44:25Speaker 1: we've already seen the story of Drew Aller in the
- 44:27Speaker 1: way that he plays, it's not really all that great.
- 44:31Speaker 3: You can you can even take out Drew Aler's name
- 44:34Speaker 3: and just put Penn State QB.
- 44:36Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens. What happens with these guys.
- 44:39Speaker 3: They have super productive freshman years, that kind of you know,
- 44:44Speaker 3: eclipse expectations. You know, they throw for three thousand yards,
- 44:47Speaker 3: something that Arch Manning has never done in his entire life.
- 44:50Speaker 3: By the way, throw for three thousand yards very fair,
- 44:53Speaker 3: not four thousand, not three thousand. But you know, whoever
- 44:57Speaker 3: it ends up being at Penn State, it's the same thing.
- 45:00Speaker 3: You've productive freshman year, a couple of turnover issues, but
- 45:04Speaker 3: you know, just a grinder, couldn't beat any of the
- 45:06Speaker 3: big teams. But with you know, with confidence and you know, experience,
- 45:11Speaker 3: he's gonna get better. And then year two balls out,
- 45:14Speaker 3: still can't really pull off the big game. And then
- 45:17Speaker 3: year three or four, whatever it is, you know, here
- 45:19Speaker 3: comes the big Penn State and it never happens. And
- 45:23Speaker 3: this is why Sam Franklin ends up in on the
- 45:26Speaker 3: hot seat every three to four years, is because he
- 45:30Speaker 3: is senior quarterback.
- 45:31Speaker 4: Did not do it.
- 45:32Speaker 3: So he's gonna be in the hot seat going into
- 45:33Speaker 3: next year. And there's gonna be a new freshman kid
- 45:36Speaker 3: who comes in. He's gonna look really, really good. He's
- 45:39Speaker 3: gonna be more of a runner passing on necessas necessity,
- 45:43Speaker 3: they're gonna overachieve. They're not gonna be playing big games,
- 45:46Speaker 3: rinse wash, repeat, Jay, you can name the year.
- 45:48Speaker 1: I love that you called him Sam Franklin and not
- 45:51Speaker 1: James Franklin. That actually kind of warms hard about who
- 45:54Speaker 1: he is to all of us because it really.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Because that's because you're not wrong there.
- 45:59Speaker 1: That's kind of the feeling that we all have in
- 46:01Speaker 1: regards to a James Franklin type setup is that we
- 46:06Speaker 1: expect him to fumble the bag.
- 46:09Speaker 2: That's what it does best.
- 46:12Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of made the joke already, but
- 46:13Speaker 3: I'll say it louder for the back. If it's Aretha Franklin,
- 46:16Speaker 3: it doesn't mean a damn thing. Is if they followed
- 46:19Speaker 3: the same pattern over and over again, it's going to
- 46:22Speaker 3: be okay for you know, I don't know what it is.
- 46:24Speaker 3: It's you know, you look at Mike Tomlin in the NFL.
- 46:26Speaker 3: It's it's just that state is as long as you are,
- 46:30Speaker 3: you know, a hard working yeomans you know, just grind
- 46:32Speaker 3: it out and just never show quit. It does not
- 46:35Speaker 3: matter if we don't ever win a national championship. We're
- 46:38Speaker 3: gonna be happy with this team because we're hard workers
- 46:40Speaker 3: and we always have a chance. And that just kind
- 46:42Speaker 3: of feels the same about Penn State.
- 46:45Speaker 1: No, you you you are pretty Uh, you're pretty spot
- 46:51Speaker 1: on there, my friend.
- 46:51Speaker 2: That is a.
- 46:54Speaker 1: That is how I always felt about him. Oregon at
- 46:56Speaker 1: five is intriguing. Georgia should be higher as the defending
- 46:59Speaker 1: he champion. I feel like there should be more respect
- 47:02Speaker 1: on their name. Same thing with LSU bringing back their quarterback. Now,
- 47:06Speaker 1: the question I'm curious about is out of this his
- 47:08Speaker 1: top ten, who do you think are the two teams
- 47:10Speaker 1: that will fall out of it and out of the
- 47:12Speaker 1: top twenty five?
- 47:13Speaker 4: Out of the top twenty five?
- 47:15Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because the two teams always.
- 47:17Speaker 3: Do Okay, I don't really think anybody out of the
- 47:25Speaker 3: top twenty five, but I think teams that end up
- 47:28Speaker 3: towards the back of the back of the top twenty
- 47:30Speaker 3: five by the end of the year. I would go
- 47:33Speaker 3: with South Carolina MM and man, I'm just not buying
- 47:41Speaker 3: Oregon this year. Just not buy an Oregon. I think
- 47:44Speaker 3: that they're going to be starting the uh is it
- 47:48Speaker 3: the More kid?
- 47:49Speaker 4: What's what's his name? Freshman?
- 47:53Speaker 3: See part of Jackson Arreolds class. Dante More isn't he there?
- 47:57Speaker 2: A quarterback? And Oregon? Yeah, I think to Taymore is
- 47:59Speaker 2: going to be starting quarterback.
- 48:00Speaker 3: Let me see, yeah, so's gonna be a first time
- 48:03Speaker 3: starting quarterback. Dylan Gabriel really saved them a lot with
- 48:05Speaker 3: his efficiency and just letting those just crazy playmakers that
- 48:11Speaker 3: Oregon has, you know, in the slot, and you know
- 48:13Speaker 3: they line them up in the backfield.
- 48:14Speaker 4: That's what you want from your Oregon quarterback.
- 48:16Speaker 3: You don't need somebody to go out there and be
- 48:18Speaker 3: a Joey Harrington, you know, and toss the ball over
- 48:21Speaker 3: the place it is, get get the ball in the space.
- 48:24Speaker 3: That's when Orgon's always been the best is spread you out,
- 48:27Speaker 3: get the ball in space, make you make play after
- 48:29Speaker 3: play after play, and as you start scratching out to
- 48:32Speaker 3: those wide receivers, then all of a sudden they got
- 48:34Speaker 3: one of those speedy little sobs that come out of
- 48:36Speaker 3: the back and averages ten yards of carry every single
- 48:39Speaker 3: damn year.
- 48:40Speaker 2: They always do. It's always one of those. You like,
- 48:44Speaker 2: his name is.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Probably and he's his name is always going to be Franklin.
- 48:48Speaker 3: I feel like they've got a Franklin that they've got
- 48:50Speaker 3: a five to nine Franklin that runs a four to
- 48:52Speaker 3: one every single year.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Me look looking at their roster.
- 48:56Speaker 1: Now, okay, he may not be up there right now,
- 48:59Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna end up one showing up
- 49:01Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Yeah, there's not one now, but I
- 49:03Speaker 1: think one's gonna random popular. It's probably a true freshman
- 49:05Speaker 1: right now is just come on a roster and he's
- 49:07Speaker 1: going to become that. Like you said, the Franklin they do.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Really they do have Decoryan Moore, and I think he
- 49:14Speaker 3: is going to be a psycho.
- 49:16Speaker 4: Again.
- 49:17Speaker 3: It's it's organ season. Do you have their schedule upright
- 49:21Speaker 3: in front of you? Oregon season is going to come
- 49:22Speaker 3: down to Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan. I really don't
- 49:26Speaker 3: see Indiana having the year that they had last year,
- 49:29Speaker 3: which is why they're not even up here.
- 49:32Speaker 4: I don't see it.
- 49:33Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are saying Illinois is
- 49:35Speaker 3: the new Indiana.
- 49:37Speaker 4: They are.
- 49:37Speaker 1: They they're bringing back a lot of players, so I
- 49:41Speaker 1: totally understand why they're at fourteen because I think they're
- 49:43Speaker 1: bringing out the most returning starters, which you know, I
- 49:48Speaker 1: think that's also while we're nineteen, we were bringing back
- 49:50Speaker 1: some of the most returning production in the country. We're
- 49:54Speaker 1: still tenth in the country, and which I can't wait
- 49:56Speaker 1: till Bill Conley gives us that it's going to be
- 49:58Speaker 1: fun to dive into those numbers. But if I'm going
- 50:01Speaker 1: to pick two teams out of here, I really think
- 50:03Speaker 1: that it's gonna be South Carolina. I think I think
- 50:06Speaker 1: they're going to disappoint this year, and I'm probably going
- 50:11Speaker 1: with Texas A and M as well. They're returning a
- 50:12Speaker 1: lot of talent, but their biggest problem is going to
- 50:14Speaker 1: be for both of those things, we still need to
- 50:17Speaker 1: see if the quarterbacks can win games for them.
- 50:19Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 50:20Speaker 3: And they've got they've got that uh Michael Vick, you know,
- 50:27Speaker 3: light style quarterback, the guy who is a big time scrambler,
- 50:31Speaker 3: and it's just can he throw the ball effectively and
- 50:35Speaker 3: in crunch situations. Now, the only reason why I don't
- 50:38Speaker 3: have Elko, I mean is A and M there is
- 50:40Speaker 3: because Elko I am a big believer in Mike Elko.
- 50:43Speaker 3: I really do think that he But you know, Jay,
- 50:47Speaker 3: I'm also of the opinion that LSU either won't be
- 50:51Speaker 3: in the top twenty five or they're gonna win the
- 50:52Speaker 3: national championship this year, because that's typically how they do
- 50:55Speaker 3: in these years, is they either just go absolutely off
- 50:59Speaker 3: and you know, they they did you do it? You know,
- 51:02Speaker 3: you saw it with Joe Burrow's second year. You know,
- 51:05Speaker 3: it just happens. Happens all the time for them, and
- 51:08Speaker 3: I think this is the year that they got it
- 51:09Speaker 3: and it but a lot of their It's going to
- 51:11Speaker 3: be how how much can their defensive line progress, you know,
- 51:15Speaker 3: in the second year they have You know, they got
- 51:17Speaker 3: a decent haul kind of like we did, you know,
- 51:20Speaker 3: the year before. And so Notre Dame, which is not sure.
- 51:24Speaker 3: You know, I think Riley Leonard was a lot of
- 51:26Speaker 3: that team. Uh he did such a good job. And
- 51:28Speaker 3: who did they get transfer in? Because they got a
- 51:30Speaker 3: transfer quarterback?
- 51:31Speaker 4: Right?
- 51:32Speaker 2: Uh?
- 51:33Speaker 1: Notre Dame did pick up a transfer. Remember came on
- 51:38Speaker 1: the top of my head. I'm gonna go look real quick.
- 51:39Speaker 1: I'm just pulling up their roster in Tredame they got in.
- 51:46Speaker 4: Ugh.
- 51:48Speaker 3: No, Jimmy David Carr or Derek Carr is retiring from football.
- 51:52Speaker 4: He's not gonna go play there.
- 51:53Speaker 2: CJ. Carr is their starting quarterback. I have no clue
- 51:58Speaker 2: who that is. Uh, I know, he's a zero clue
- 52:02Speaker 2: who that is, sir, Like I have no clue who
- 52:05Speaker 2: that is.
- 52:07Speaker 3: No, And Notre Dame is Notre Dame, and I think
- 52:12Speaker 3: their schedule is going to be kind of like it
- 52:16Speaker 3: always is. It's going to be what does sc look like?
- 52:19Speaker 3: What are the been these teams that they're playing? You know,
- 52:21Speaker 3: what do those guys look like?
- 52:23Speaker 1: And in the shocking development, they did not bring in
- 52:25Speaker 1: a quarterback in the portal this year, so.
- 52:27Speaker 2: They're actually going to ride with their guy CJ. Carr.
- 52:31Speaker 3: Okay, well, tune in for more inaccurate news.
- 52:38Speaker 2: It's all right, all right, let's lok at the next one.
- 52:40Speaker 2: Let's go with Clatt.
- 52:43Speaker 1: Clatt's top twenty five. Oklahoma was in here at the
- 52:46Speaker 1: bottom at number twenty five. And of course, you know,
- 52:49Speaker 1: Clatt explains it in his video as to why but
- 52:55Speaker 1: Florida at thirteen seems high, Clemson at five seems low,
- 52:59Speaker 1: but Pence State it's his favorite team.
- 53:05Speaker 3: Why listen, you know I'm gonna come back to Notre
- 53:13Speaker 3: Dame because now I just pulled up their schedule. But
- 53:15Speaker 3: I've already given my thoughts on on the Penn State stuff,
- 53:19Speaker 3: like of all the teams that shown that they can
- 53:22Speaker 3: push through, like hell, even Michigan pushed through recently, Like why, like,
- 53:27Speaker 3: how do you again? It's been set up like this,
- 53:30Speaker 3: it's it's you know, fool me once, that fool me once,
- 53:32Speaker 3: fool me twice situation. But we've seen that like five times.
- 53:37Speaker 3: So but again he's got they got everybody's got Texas
- 53:40Speaker 3: right there too.
- 53:43Speaker 4: Notre Dame, Jay.
- 53:45Speaker 3: This is how their season starts off. If Notre Dame
- 53:48Speaker 3: has a good record, they're they They can name their
- 53:52Speaker 3: spot in the in the in the rankings. You start
- 53:55Speaker 3: out at Miami A and m at home, per Do
- 54:00Speaker 3: at home at Arkansas, Boise State at home, in c
- 54:06Speaker 3: State at home, USC at home at Boston College, Navy
- 54:09Speaker 3: at home, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Stanford. So I mean, if they
- 54:12Speaker 3: get through September, if they get October and they've got.
- 54:19Speaker 4: I mean, that's a top damn schedule. Their schedule, there's
- 54:21Speaker 4: not many.
- 54:22Speaker 3: I mean, like your weeks off are Syracuse and NC
- 54:25Speaker 3: State Stanford at the end of the season, but like
- 54:30Speaker 3: Notre Dame's not going to be there.
- 54:31Speaker 4: Notre Dame. This may be the year that they're not
- 54:33Speaker 4: in the top twenty five.
- 54:36Speaker 2: Who this could be that year. Now the question is
- 54:38Speaker 2: with Carr, he's on eleven finalist.
- 54:40Speaker 1: He did finish, He's a top one hundred player in
- 54:44Speaker 1: the nation six quarterback in his class. So twenty twenty
- 54:49Speaker 1: four he wasn't bad.
- 54:51Speaker 3: I agree, and I don't think his talent's going to
- 54:52Speaker 3: be where he falls short. I think it's the experience
- 54:54Speaker 3: in the way to manage the game. I mean, you
- 54:57Speaker 3: look at what Riley Leonard did last year. You know
- 55:00Speaker 3: the difference between Riley Leonard and Sam Hartman was just
- 55:03Speaker 3: the ability of not number one to stay healthy, but yep,
- 55:05Speaker 3: number two, to avoid the big catastrophic mistakes and just
- 55:09Speaker 3: take take take the things that are presented to you,
- 55:12Speaker 3: not leaving anything on the table. It's hard to ask
- 55:14Speaker 3: a freshmen to do that.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Now, this is kind of funny.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Went back and looked at that recruiting class, only two
- 55:22Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in that well, I say four four out
- 55:25Speaker 1: of the top ten quarterbacks are still on their roster
- 55:28Speaker 1: on the team that they committed to.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Two four seven.
- 55:31Speaker 1: Yeah, Julian saying, Who's no longer at Alabama? He's at
- 55:33Speaker 1: Ohio State. DJ Lagway still stays. I guess five, DJ Lagway,
- 55:38Speaker 1: Ryola Aaron Nolan is no longer at Ohio State. He's
- 55:42Speaker 1: at South Carolina. Luke Crowman Hall not at Florida State,
- 55:47Speaker 1: he is at Mississippi State, CJ. Carr Ethan Grukenmeyer, which
- 55:53Speaker 1: is Penn State's quarterback, backup quarterback, and then Jade and
- 55:58Speaker 1: Davis at Michigan, and then of course number six, I'm sorry,
- 56:02Speaker 1: the six of them.
- 56:03Speaker 2: Ryan.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Publici Puglisi, who is the quarterback at Georgia. So six
- 56:10Speaker 1: out of the top ten are still in their roster,
- 56:12Speaker 1: but only two three of the top two, of the
- 56:16Speaker 1: top five, of the three of the top six are
- 56:20Speaker 1: still at.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Their original schools. Fascinating, fascinating, fast nay ting.
- 56:28Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's there's there's a lot, and it's
- 56:30Speaker 3: going to continue to be this way because I think
- 56:33Speaker 3: the way that those guys are getting paid, they want
- 56:35Speaker 3: to come in, they want to play, they want to
- 56:37Speaker 3: go now. I won't kick now, but somebody brought up
- 56:40Speaker 3: in the chat, you know, I think Penn State probably
- 56:43Speaker 3: is getting a lot of bump from the Gym Knowles situation.
- 56:46Speaker 3: But was Penn State. Did Penn State lose games because
- 56:53Speaker 3: their defense? Because I've thought the game that they lost,
- 56:55Speaker 3: I mean, those close games, their defense is kind of
- 56:58Speaker 3: what kept them there. I think as usually it's not
- 57:01Speaker 3: usually the Penn State's defense that is the issue. It's
- 57:03Speaker 3: usually the inability to you know, to do the thing
- 57:08Speaker 3: in you know, one of those those phone booth games,
- 57:11Speaker 3: and for the quarterback to make plays in the end,
- 57:15Speaker 3: and you know, they usually I mean, I feel like
- 57:17Speaker 3: there's a Penn State receiver that gets drafted every two
- 57:19Speaker 3: or three years too. So it's like they've got the
- 57:20Speaker 3: good weapons, good running backs, you know, got good defense,
- 57:24Speaker 3: and it's just that quarterback, you know, at the when
- 57:27Speaker 3: it matters most. And I mean, I guess you can
- 57:29Speaker 3: say that with every team but Penn State. I'm just
- 57:32Speaker 3: going to have to see it before I believe it.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Jay, Yeah, me too. I am in the believe it
- 57:36Speaker 2: when I see it. Now. Oklahoma twenty five, how do
- 57:38Speaker 2: you feel about that?
- 57:42Speaker 3: I feel like Joel Klapp probably thought, I bet he
- 57:45Speaker 3: had Oklahoma and a couple of other teams at twenty five,
- 57:48Speaker 3: and he thought, Man, the backlash I'll get from Oklahoma
- 57:52Speaker 3: fans by not having them will be a thousand times
- 57:54Speaker 3: worse than anything I can get from any other team
- 57:57Speaker 3: at the spot, you know, nineteen twenty five, twenty it
- 58:01Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You want these guys hungry, You want these
- 58:03Speaker 3: guys believing that nobody is believing in them, and then
- 58:07Speaker 3: you know what you want to do is not what
- 58:08Speaker 3: happened two years ago. You want to see them once
- 58:11Speaker 3: they get on the rolling, they get and win a
- 58:14Speaker 3: big game, you know, after Texas. You know, we so
- 58:17Speaker 3: the game winning touchdown against Texas, and then what happened
- 58:20Speaker 3: We kind of lost focus and it was a big thing.
- 58:22Speaker 3: So that's what this team's going to need to do
- 58:24Speaker 3: this year is if you get on that winning streak,
- 58:26Speaker 3: it is how do you continue to grind and tune
- 58:28Speaker 3: every all the rat poison out and how do you
- 58:31Speaker 3: just continue to grind and keep things going. And so,
- 58:34Speaker 3: you know, I'm fine with Oklahoma at twenty five. I
- 58:36Speaker 3: know that people will always people will always.
- 58:39Speaker 2: Do the.
- 58:41Speaker 4: Remember two thousand and we started at number nineteen.
- 58:44Speaker 3: We started, you know whatever that was. That's kind of
- 58:46Speaker 3: the parallel that we always draw off. We are ranked
- 58:49Speaker 3: early in the season right here, but you know it's
- 58:52Speaker 3: going to be. It's going to be, Oklahoma is going
- 58:54Speaker 3: to be. I think the schedule is easier than it's
- 58:57Speaker 3: being dubbed as I really do. I think with the
- 59:03Speaker 3: new starting quarterbacks and new situations, you know, up and
- 59:06Speaker 3: down the entire schedule.
- 59:09Speaker 4: You really you really your.
- 59:11Speaker 3: Defense if you're good at defensive back, and if your
- 59:14Speaker 3: offensive line is good. I mean this team is a
- 59:18Speaker 3: top fifteen team.
- 59:20Speaker 2: No, No, that's very very fair and true. There, I'd
- 59:27Speaker 2: like the twenty five spot. I actually prefer.
- 59:30Speaker 4: That.
- 59:30Speaker 1: We still have a lot of questions that need to
- 59:32Speaker 1: be answered. Is our offensive line going to be at
- 59:36Speaker 1: where we need it to be, which I'm not concerned.
- 59:40Speaker 2: About, but some are.
- 59:42Speaker 1: Will are wide receivers be healthy enough to really compete?
- 59:47Speaker 1: Will Jeometier be able to walk in and continue to
- 59:49Speaker 1: do what he does, which I've heard a few people
- 59:51Speaker 1: talk about this, And the one thing that everyone is
- 59:53Speaker 1: excited most about Jeom Materier is that Jeom Matier walks
- 59:57Speaker 1: in with his offensive coordinator Benarbuckle, and and he knows
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: the offense.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: He can teach it. We think that was the probably
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: the biggest.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: Game changer of Dylan Gabriel coming in with Jeff Levy
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: was he could teach the offense to guys very quickly.
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: Now, the problem that year was everybody was learning both
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Just it's not a very good
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: recipe for success. But the second year in it, you
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: notice that every that it all changed. Yeah, so now
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: you'll have a situation where the quarterback is teaching everybody,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: but everybody on defense knows exactly what they're supposed to
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: be doing because all of them have been there.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: The old line, to me will be just fine.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: I'm already sold on the fact that now we have
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: two layers of offensive linemen that we will should be
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: okay with playing. You solve the product later in the season,
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: I get better. The thing that helped most of it
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: back was still the one, the component of being able
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: to throw the ball. We'll be better at both going
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: into the.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: C and Jay.
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: I think the puzzle pieces are better. I think that
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: you want to be a spot to where you're giving
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: Fasusi and Foja some good looks throughout the season and
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: maybe rotating them in. I don't think you want to
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: be in a spot where you have to turn to
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: them out of necessity. I think if they take something,
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: have at it. You know, we saw Kayden Green a
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: couple of years. A true freshman can come in and
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: make a difference, and I feel like that is the
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: uh that is that is what I believe in this year.
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: I also think this is there were so many times
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: we've I don't even spend too much someone this the
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: offensive line held up way more often than it looked.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: Now people want to go back to the South Carolina game,
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: and they want to go back to the second half
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: of the Ole Miss game, and that's what the whole
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: entire season boiled down to. I promise you Jomettier is
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: going to, you know, alleviate some.
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: Of those issues.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: Also that he has played, he knows where people are
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: supposed to be. If the receivers do what they're supposed
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: to do, He's going to find them. Whereas last year
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: you didn't know. I mean when you turned around as
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: a receiver, you had you know, you had a very
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: low chance that the ball was actually going to be
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: coming on the quarterback's hands or coming to you in
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: your general vicinity. And so I think that all changes
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: a little bit more this year with Matier and for
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: everybody wondering if you can translate cam War did Okay?
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: He did? I yea and yeah, yeah he didn't transfer
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: to the SEC, but he did.
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: Yeah he did. Really Okay, Yeah, we're where did he
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: where did he get drafted? Jay?
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: I don't know did he even get drafted? Ship are
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: we even talking about this?
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: Right? I mean you got to think the step up
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: of our buckle. You go, cam or not drafted at all? Right,
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: and that's here. Maybe he can slide into seventh round.
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: You know, three four quarterbacks later, we might have ourselves
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: a high round draft pick. Somebody's going to watch that
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: part of the clip and is going to lay into.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: Us, lay into us. All right. Lastly, the one.
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: That have the dumb one, here's your best one.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: Andy Staples. And I like Andy Staples a lot. This
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: is funny.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: He ain't no, no, no, no, Zius b. I'm not
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: a Ward hater. I love cam Ward. I'm just saying,
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: I mean, did he really get joke?
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: Get? Yeah, We're we're just we're kidding around, We're truly kidding.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: I think, yeah he was. He was the best quarterback
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: in the draft.
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: I I listen, I don't give a ship what happens
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: to that team at all, but I will be rooting
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: for cam Ward.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: I wan't care Ward to succeed while his team loses.
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Sure, why not.
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: I don't want him to be the calls of the losses,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: but I want the Titans to lose every game possible.
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: Well, the Titans are going to be Titans, right, They're
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: gonna be a nice little eight and eight style team,
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: nine and seven or whatever it is. However, may games
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: there are now nine, ten and nine.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: Whatever, but that's not an eight, eight to nine something
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: like that.
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: Yeah, But so.
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: It's gonna they're going to be like that, right, And
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: I think that he's going to ball out better than
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson did this last year. I think he is
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: going to have himself a good good year. Let's just
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: this though, Kim Ward did go number one, but this
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: might have been one of the worst quarterback draft classes
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: in a long term.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: We've had a bit and we've had in a bit.
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, I now I don't think that has
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: anything to do with cam Ward, but I still think
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: he's a top fifteen pick in any other year. But
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: you know that the Titans are a team that he
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: can go and he can put his head down and
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: if he's going to do what he says he does,
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: he's going to put his head down and he's going
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: to grind and he's going to earn the respect of
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: that locker room and he's going to try to start
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: leading them exactly.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: And so Andy Staples as mentioned here, I think this
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: is a similar situation as you stated for Joe Klatt.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: You know the numbers, he's right there at twenty five.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: You know, he decided that Iowa will be selected over Oklahoma,
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: which is number twenty six. And Andy Stables doesn't care
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: about the backlash from Oklahoma fans. He actually embraces it.
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: He's like, pull up.
- 1:05:08Speaker 4: He said, bring the traffic, bring.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: Bring bring the pain, bring, bring me all of hate
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: in English.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: He has zero issues with doing that. Not you know,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: I always, like I said, I like Andy Staples. I
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: respect him in the game, but I think it I
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: do think it's funny that he hit Oklahoma over the
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: head with the I'm gona ahead and throw y'all in
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: their last type deal.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: Well, you got a Louisville in Iowa and an Iowa
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: state right there, Like that's that's where you go.
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you know what's going on here.
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: But again, in Texas Tech, there's a lot of text
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: Tech love again kind of like kind of like the
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: Penn State. You're gonna have to show me because Texas Tech.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: I will take Texas, Notre Dame.
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: I'll take every single those teams in the head to
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: head matchup, and I just don't think TEXTA Tech has
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: the juice the athletes, and you're you know, we now
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: have seen it one year in full, full schedule, up
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: and down. We got Texas, We got Texas Tech in
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: the in the in the playoff. Jay, I would be
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: excited about that matchup.
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: I'm with you on that.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: But we're gonna say number one needs to be Ohio State.
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: They wanted the ring. Georgia won the SEC championship.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: They should be number one. Their defense is bringing back
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: a lot. But anyway, I do like that Clemson is
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: number three. I respect it.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: Illinois is getting a lot of love. I hope they
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: live up to it. I do think that South Carolina's fair.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Now out of this top teen, who do you think
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: are the two teams that is going to fall out?
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: Illinois and Florida? I mean that's it. Do you do
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: you count that?
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: Like? Here's the thing is, I think Bilma is a
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: great coach, I really do he. I just don't think
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: that he has a coaching philosophy that that allows for
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: this type of if this was the nineties, he's it.
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: I mean he reminds me of the old Oh God,
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: what's his name?
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: He was the head coach of A and M with
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: Jamal Tombs the beginning.
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: Of the Big twelve.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: Oh my god, what is his freaking name? Somebody helped
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: me out here, Mike not Mike Sherman before that RC
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: Slocum slo slom. Yeah, that's that's you know, he is
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: just like he's he is a he's a grinder. He's
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: got that Wisconsin power, power football, Dennis Francione him too,
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: just that whole Texas A and M era to where
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: it was big time defense, adequate quarterback in a good
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: running game, and I just don't know if it can
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: win championships in this day and age. Also, you know,
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: let me see here, I think you have to have
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: some dynamic offensive output. You either have to have yourself
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: some freaks of nature, some with the wide receiver spot,
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: or you just have to have, you know, a Diego
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: Pavia type of quarterback. You're a really good team.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm at is, you got to
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: have a Diego Pavia type that's gonna be able to
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: just take over and do everything themselves.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Alabama at number seven.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: Is very intriguing to me because I mean, clad had
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Alabama at number nine and paquel Did had them at eleven,
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: but Staples has them in the top ten above Georgia.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: Are we doing the well they beat them type deal?
- 1:08:37Speaker 4: Let's be honest.
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: Has there ever been a game that Alabama Georgia games
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: where you're like you can look at it and be like,
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: they're lucky that the time ran out when it did.
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: I really just think that one last.
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: Thing on Illinois, their schedule looks very manageable. You got
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: Western Illinois, Duke, Western, Michigan in Indiana, USC, Purdue, here's
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: the stretch, Ohio State, Washington, Rutgers, Maryland, Wisconsin, Northwestern.
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: They don't they don't have.
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: A very tough schedule. I mean, it's USC, Indiana, you
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: throw them in there. But the same thing as Washington
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: could be pretty surprising this year, but that might be
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: it for Illinois. So but Jay, I just man, the Alabama,
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: I'm I'm I don't know what to expect.
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: I think Alabama did what I thought they were going
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: to do this year. I thought that the the melding
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: of styles was going to become an issue at some point,
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: and we saw it did.
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: Yeah, you also see that those.
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: Those crunch time plays that Nick Saban never let beat him.
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: You saw them lose because of that a couple of times.
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: Now divorce got his own guy, He's got more of
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: a passing attack. Brian Williams is pretty decent at what
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: he does. Yeah, yeah, what do they? Yeah, what do they?
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: You know, what do they have coming back at running back?
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: Can they you know their offensive line? They lost some
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: big time offensive linemen, you know, a couple of a
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: couple of big guys. So I'm wondering, you know, you
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: still have I think they're they're they're left tackle. I
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: think is projected to be one of the top five picks.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: You're still going to have that three? Yeah, So you know,
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: he's a big generational guy. The next big l t
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: too hit. But I don't know what to expect out
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: of Alabama. It does does the board try his methodology?
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: And now this is his team and you know you
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: got you know they they didn't lose much at all
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: out of the portal, which is crazy. They kept a
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: lot of that talent there in Alabama. So we'll see
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: if if they struggle this year, it could be a
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: little bit of a free fall with with him, and
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: it might be year three. But if if you know,
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: if if he's able to run what he wants to
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: run and get out there and do some of the
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: stuff that he wants to do, which is more of
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: that passing attack. You know, Alabama gets to it looked
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: a little bit different, kind of like the early Mike
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: Leech sooners, you know, with when he came in and
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: you go from whatever we ran on offense prior to
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: stoops and then all of a sudden you were throwing
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: the spread in there. I think Alabama looks a little
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: bit more like they looked with Tua and all the
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: first round draft pick guys that.
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: I do agree with you on, because.
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: Grub is really going to bring back a lot of
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: what we saw at at.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: Washington.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: I agree with you there. That is what I expect
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: a lot more Washington in comparison. So yeah, I could
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: see Bamba actually being a lot. But they're gonna in
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: comparison the last season.
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: It's going to be for your starter and his first
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: year in the SEC, and it's going to be a
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: lot of it's gonna be different.
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: And I see he didn't look at it great when
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: he played against US. I'm just gonna.
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: Say when they had to bring him in because I
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: think Milro either his helmet got knocked off or he
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: got a little dinged up for a minute, they took
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: him out for like a couple of plays, and then
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: Simpson came in there and played, I don't see us,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, he's got yeah.
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: And you know, like I said, first year quarterback Debor
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: gets to run his system. Do we get to see
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: what does Dobor's system look like?
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: In the SEC?
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: I mean, just the same questions they are going to
- 1:12:23Speaker 3: be asked about Arbuckles should be about the Boor because
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: he did not run his system last year.
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: And if you if you think that Michael.
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: Pennix Junior and Jalen Milroe had a lot of parallel
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: film from their past years, that's not true. So we'll
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: we'll see and again at Washington he had a lot
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: of really, really good receivers. You know, with Pennix that
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: last year when they made a push, you got Ryan Williams,
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: who ups up with him? Who takes some pressure off
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: of Ryan Williams.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: That is the biggest question. Who's going to be that
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: player that's going to take most of the pressure off
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: of the back of a Ryan Williams and allow Ryan
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: Williams to be able to really freestyle as much as
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: you know you will he wants to.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, to.
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: Be told, we shall.
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: I think this season, this season baby so much fun.
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: If what's going to happen? Yeah, but you know, so
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: there's there's a lot. We still got a long time,
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: and as we saw last year, a lot can happen
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: between here and kickoff.
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: A ton's going to happen. That's the crazy part. A
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: ton's going to happen between you hearing kickoff. But all right,
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: let's wrap it up at a bowl and let's talk
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- 1:13:42Speaker 1: You've already hit the commercial breaks, so it didn't matter.
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: But best thing out there at Thunder Thunder get us
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: that dub close it out and Coop. I'm gonna say
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: this in the simplest of terms, I feel like Oklahoma
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: City needed that desperately, and say they need it desperately.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: They needed it to see what it's like.
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: Two, they need to see what it's like to g
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: really really close and in the clutch, because I mean,
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: look at it the first the first game, in the
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: third game, if they were locked in clutch wise like
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: this and not just gunning NonStop, they could have won
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: the game.
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: This could have been a siren or three.
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: One. Yeah, yeah, there is there's a lot that I
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: think that when you watch we saw the Steve Nash
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns do the same thing. We saw the Dallas
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: Mavericks for years, these potent offs that just just I
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: mean the Brooklyn Nets, same situation. You go in and
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: you just you run the regular season and then when
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: you come to the playoffs, all those plans. You know,
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: it's the Mike Tyson. Everybody's got to play until they
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: get punched in the mouth. Oklahoma City, if you consider
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: let's consider it for the sake of my argument here
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: at double digit wins as blowout wins and non double
- 1:15:12Speaker 3: digit wins. Oklahoma City was fourteen and fourteen on the
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: season because they had fifty four wins by ten points
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: or more. So there are fourteen and fourteen in games
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: where they didn't blow out the team right. I think
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: half of those were the Dan Mavericks. But I digress
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: is game one. You don't hit free throws, you Cruso
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: did the you know not once, not twice, but three
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: times fouled immediately, and it looked like the team didn't
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: know what to do in a close game.
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: They don't how to operate.
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: You know how many times you know Shay led the
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: league in scoring and didn't play a ton in the
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: fourth quarter this year, and I e you know these blowouts.
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: Today was a must win because it was a close game.
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: It was an ugly game. I mean, I think the
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: teams were combining to shoot under twenty percent from three.
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: Point range at one point.
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: Stinky Shay was efficient as he could be there. They
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: are really really making this team think through what they're
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: wanting to do instead of just get out and run.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: Nobody they do not want the Thunder to get out
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: and run, because what happens when the Thunder do that?
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: If you can get out and run, You see what
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: happened in game two. They also had Jokic out of
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: his dad mind in Game two and Game three, Jay,
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: I'm not gonna not gonna lie.
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: Game three was just the same thing. As Game one.
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: Again it was you not being able to do the
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: right thing and they still had a chance to win
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: that game with everybody just playing super efficiently from the
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: starting rotation. Aaron Gordon, it was it was crazy. Michael
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: Porter Junior was the only game I think so far
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: in the playoffs that he actually looked well in was
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: Game three. So today it was big number one. You
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: got to take it, you know, you got to even
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: things back up. Now it's the best of three series
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: and you get after it.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: It's what's most important.
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: You're right, and you like we said, it's it's it's
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: keeping the series out of that three to one deficit,
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: which is not impossible to come back from, but it's
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: not something that you want to willingly take on.
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: I think that right now.
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: I'm kind of maintaining still, like, you know, can you
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: go out and beat the thunder at home two times
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: if you're the you know, if you're the Nuggets, or
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: I guess just one in one. But I mean, you
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: got to get there. You got to get you you
- 1:17:47Speaker 3: got to come back home, and you got to put
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: yourself back up on the high side and put all
- 1:17:50Speaker 3: the pressure on the Nuggets to throw out everything. I
- 1:17:53Speaker 3: got to think that the fatigue is going to start
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: playing a little bit more of a part for this
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: Nugget team outside of Yokich because I somebody he's like
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: the Oogie Boogeyman or something like that, like he he
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: doesn't have energy.
- 1:18:04Speaker 4: It's just his energy levels one hundred percent all the time.
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at that point where we have to ask
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: the question is he going to be able to is he?
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: Is he? Are they gassed enough for okay, see to
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: just close them out? And I think that they're at
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: that point where they're pretty gassed. They looked at now.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: The other thing though, the one thing I will give
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: to them is that when they look gassed, they they
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: asked to still be hitting shots Like how like it's annoysments.
- 1:18:33Speaker 3: I will say, this is I, you know there throughout
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: twenty plus years of you know, being very very big
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: NBA guy. I feel the same way about Jokisch as
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: I felt about Tim Duncan. I want to hate the
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: guy so much, but he is the best at doing
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: what he does and there's a reason why he's won
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: three MVPs. And after watching this this series, this is
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: the first time that we've got to see.
- 1:18:58Speaker 4: Him over and over and over again.
- 1:18:59Speaker 3: It's not just one offs, you know, not even like
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: the two game turnaround situation we had earlier in the season.
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: But I respect the hell out of him and the
- 1:19:07Speaker 3: thunder are doing what you're supposed to do. Make everything
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: just a little bit harder for him, because you know,
- 1:19:14Speaker 3: he he when everything is so hard for him to do,
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: then he has to think. He has to look at
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: all options. He can't just be instinctive, and that's why
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: you're seeing I think his three point shooting has just
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: kind of gone a crap because, I mean he literally
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: has people hitting, touching, bumping into him all the time.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:19:32Speaker 4: Now that being said, he also.
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: Shooting freaking twelve fifteen free throws a game, and it
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: just blows my mind that this guy ends up at
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: the line so much. But anybody talking about the thunderneath
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: fouls to win, I mean, we're we're still nowhere near
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: what the Nuggets are getting at all.
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: Like we are in comparison, We're pretty darn low in
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: comparison when it comes to what they're doing.
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: It's time.
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: We're fouls a lot. We are a teen at foul.
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: We all know this. We are aggressive, Yeah, aggressive squad.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: That's how we play and we will continue to play
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: that way because that's kind of the style of basketball
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: we want to be known for.
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: It is the basketball defensive version of three yards in
- 1:20:15Speaker 3: a cloud of dust.
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: Is we want to be.
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: We want to make a thing much difficult, much more
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: difficult than it is on the normal basis for you
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: on offense, and you know, you can run Crusoe and
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: Wallace and lou Dort over and over and over again.
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: Every once in a while, Jay, I'll see Shay switch
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: on to Sube. I'm like, oh, oh wait, Shay's really
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: good at freaking defense too. It's you do not have
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: a weakness on defense on the Thunder team.
- 1:20:40Speaker 4: There's nobody that you can be like go after him.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: That is something that I am very happy that Mark
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: is the head coach for because that's kind of his thing.
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: He makes sure that we are we can we can.
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: He doesn't make them change the way they play. He's
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: just has to make to be smart about it. Which
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: still my favorite thing that he does is he tells them,
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: don't argue with the refs, let me handle it. Yeah,
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: and the players respect it. That's some power man, because
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: he's a grown man that like to complain, he gets
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: in the shut up.
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: Well, it's there's because right, I mean you when Shay
- 1:21:21Speaker 3: or Jay or Jada or you know Chet, when these
- 1:21:27Speaker 3: guys are making their offensive moves, they have Okay, if
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: this happens, this happens, If that happens, that happens. And
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: if they're going into contact, they've been you know, they've
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: been officiated a certain way all year long, and it's
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: it's hard to go, well, listen, if I do this,
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: if he gets a good body on me, they're going
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: to get a foul. You see Yoka the same thing,
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: and it's it's you know, the playoff refs have been
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: they've let them play at times, they've been inconsistent from
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: the fact of sometimes they'll let them play and sometimes
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: they call the tiki tak he fouls I've ever seen. Yeah,
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: and uh, but you got guys who know how to
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: draw contact on both sides of the floor, and they're
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: both I mean, all of them are good at it.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: Jokic might be the best one. I mean, Harden used
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: to have that mantle, but I think Jokic, if you
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: if you get your hand in the cookie jar, you're done.
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: He will he will capitalize.
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: And he's learned how to. He's he sees the foul
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: that's caught.
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: Against him, and then he'll go repeated against the competition
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: and be like, I dare you to call it?
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: Not call it? And then he jumped all of that day.
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: Well, And I think that him bitching to the refs
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: is probably the only part of his game that I
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: just wish that I wish he did it less, but
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: I mean I he also, I mean that's it is.
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: I guess when you grow up as a you know,
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: not really physically imposing person, you want to find every
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: single nook and cranny that you can take to your advantage.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: And he's got the best feet in the NBA for
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: a big man. Uh, you know he is he is.
- 1:23:02Speaker 3: You know, he's got the body type to be an
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: outside range guy, like a Vladi Divac type of a situation,
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: but then also be able to go down and bang around.
- 1:23:11Speaker 3: You know, you look at what's his name up there
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: in uh the Sacramento. He was on the thunder with
- 1:23:19Speaker 3: son of a former SA Bonus Bonus and our Vitas
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: sa Bonis. Uh demonis is not a guy who can
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: really get down and go take guys out on the
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: block who are bigger guys like a Rudy Gobert or
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: Nicola Jokic, Like he is a guy who doesn't have
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: that body type, so he can't. Now he gets in
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: there and mixes it up and he can rebound. But
- 1:23:41Speaker 3: Nicola Jokic, he's just big enough that he can move
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: you around. It doesn't matter if it's j Will, doesn't
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: matter if it's Hart or Hartenstein, as the ABC announcer
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: always like to always say, but whoever it is, Chet,
- 1:23:57Speaker 3: he is going to body you up and he's going
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: to move your butt.
- 1:23:59Speaker 4: You know, You've seen him do it to Blue Door.
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: You've seen him doing it to Shay, see him to
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: do it to Heart Andstein everybody, because he's got the
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: size to him.
- 1:24:06Speaker 4: Also, yeah, no, that's true.
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: You're not wrong.
- 1:24:09Speaker 4: There our chat went silent, it did.
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: Everybody left because it was all basketball top At this point,
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: I think we got it.
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: I'm still thunder and six. We are literally right there
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: at the finish line.
- 1:24:26Speaker 4: So I said seven.
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: At the beginning of the series, I thought, I thought
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: that the Thunder, we're going to have a middle gap.
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be a situation where we
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: might get up two oh, and then maybe lose two
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: in a row and then get into a you know,
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: a back and forth fight. But I will say this
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: is Jay, I have more anxiety watching the thunder right
- 1:24:49Speaker 3: now than I had watching OU during the season this year.
- 1:24:52Speaker 4: I don't know why.
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: Maybe it's just because I know what is on the line,
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: and this year, you know, for the football team, I
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: didn't think that that was an option. But I was
- 1:25:01Speaker 3: okay to lose a couple of games. But like with
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: the thunder Man, I just the anxiety has been ridiculous.
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: Has it been crippling?
- 1:25:09Speaker 4: No, not crippling. I will, I will. What was it happened?
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: Something happened during game three and I missed the end
- 1:25:15Speaker 3: of it. Oh, I was putting a little into bed
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: and he just he just took forever. And I had
- 1:25:21Speaker 3: it pause downstairs, and I looked at my phone and
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: see what time it was, and I saw the score
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: and I was like, com it. But I went back
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: and watched it even though and I was still frustrated.
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: Yeah, they're given a solid anxiety, so I totally understand
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: that I would have it too if I was.
- 1:25:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I just need them to go ahead and get
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: these ws.
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: Well, because I think the thing is is once you
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: get past Denver, I feel like that's the that's the
- 1:25:51Speaker 3: toughest matchup. And I think it's because of Jokic.
- 1:25:54Speaker 4: Yokic.
- 1:25:55Speaker 3: The Yokic factor is he is always going to be
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: the same, He will never not be who he is.
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: And if Jamal Murray had more consistency, and I hope
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: it happens next year when we don't play him, but
- 1:26:09Speaker 3: you know, he he's the key to everything because if
- 1:26:11Speaker 3: he is on that team is damn near unstoppable. And
- 1:26:15Speaker 3: if he's on like super saying, the could be any
- 1:26:19Speaker 3: team in you know, NBA history, But yeah, it's it's
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: it's it's stressful, and I think that it'll get easier
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: from here on out. I'd like to see a little
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: Tampa or I'd like to see the Timberwolves next. I
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: think that's gonna be another good series.
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: So much fun. And love play out basketball just because
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be fun. Yeah, always a good time.
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