Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Thair Camper on a Gladiator: 3,000 Miles Later
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- 0:00All right, so we are here with Chris.
- 0:02We're gonna kind of do
- 0:03an update with Chris.
- 0:05No interviews this week.
- 0:07We did have an interview scheduled
- 0:08that's gonna be rescheduled,
- 0:10but they called out on the interview day.
- 0:14So keep watching for that interview.
- 0:17I'm really interested in
- 0:19doing that interview, Chris.
- 0:20That's with Gatekeeper Off-Road.
- 0:23And they have some pretty cool products.
- 0:26Yeah, and you have some
- 0:27product on your 2021 Jeep
- 0:30Toxel Gladiator now, the knuckle lights,
- 0:32or they're on your
- 0:33steering knuckles, aren't they?
- 0:34Yeah, steering knuckles.
- 0:35Got that on there.
- 0:36I think that is really neat.
- 0:38You know how I am about lights,
- 0:40but this was a way to
- 0:42actually have the lights on there
- 0:44and have a good use for them.
- 0:47I like the idea of
- 0:49having the lights real low.
- 0:51And I think it's a wonderful opportunity
- 0:53for foggy situations, dusty situations,
- 0:56and I mean, if you live in
- 0:58California, the wildfires,
- 1:00you can actually see as
- 1:02you're trying to escape
- 1:03from the flames.
- 1:06I hope that doesn't, well, I
- 1:07guess if it was gonna happen,
- 1:08it would have already happened, right?
- 1:10Isn't the summertime
- 1:11thing for California?
- 1:12I believe so, yeah.
- 1:14Because it was a year,
- 1:15the horrible fires
- 1:16that destroyed most of LA,
- 1:17or at least the residential areas,
- 1:19I wanna say was a year plus ago.
- 1:21So yeah, we're just
- 1:22coming out over a year.
- 1:26So I've got amber lights, yellow lights.
- 1:29I don't wanna think if there's an actual
- 1:31difference in color,
- 1:32but then the other lights,
- 1:34because I've learned
- 1:35that especially off-road,
- 1:37it really makes the
- 1:39rocks and stuff stand out
- 1:41whenever you're driving off-road.
- 1:43It's almost like a 3D
- 1:44aspect of having those lights
- 1:46that are so bright, so low.
- 1:51You can really see like what's happening
- 1:53and you can really see like what's up close
- 1:54and get a feel for how
- 1:56tall those rocks are.
- 1:58So I haven't had this out on the rocks
- 2:01since I've added those lights,
- 2:02but it's a lot of fun to drive around in.
- 2:05And you know, like in the morning time,
- 2:07I mean, the sun may be up,
- 2:09but in the first part of the morning
- 2:11where it's kind of a little dark outside,
- 2:14I think it helps you
- 2:14stand out for other people
- 2:17to see that you're coming down the road,
- 2:20especially for those nut jobs
- 2:21that are pulling out of
- 2:22the side strip centers.
- 2:24Like they got their McDonald's,
- 2:26they're all excited
- 2:26about their McNuggets,
- 2:28not McNuggets,
- 2:29McSandwich or whatever it is,
- 2:31and they're not paying attention.
- 2:33I mean, it doesn't
- 2:33matter how big and red it is,
- 2:35you have to have lights on it to say,
- 2:38pay attention to
- 2:39(beep)
- 2:40Exactly.
- 2:41Yeah, so obviously you
- 2:42run them on the street
- 2:43and because they're below,
- 2:45it's my understanding in most states,
- 2:47if they're below the headlamp line
- 2:50and they're on, they're
- 2:51legal, is that correct?
- 2:52Obviously you're running on the street.
- 2:53Texas, yes.
- 2:54And they are the approved color.
- 2:57You can have amber or you
- 2:59can have white on the front.
- 3:01Now, I mean, blue or red,
- 3:03or that would be kind of a problem.
- 3:05And you know, it's interesting too,
- 3:06I believe the law is written
- 3:07where it says a direct view of the light.
- 3:10So if you have mood lighting or rock
- 3:14lights that are red,
- 3:16as long as people
- 3:16can't see the light itself,
- 3:19the thing generating
- 3:19the red light, it's legal.
- 3:22So you could, I could have,
- 3:24I don't have any red
- 3:25lights on for the rock lights,
- 3:26but I could turn those on.
- 3:28And it's the way I read
- 3:29it is they're white lights.
- 3:31So they are not directly
- 3:34visible front or rear or side.
- 3:36They should be legal
- 3:36for me to run those too.
- 3:38They are.
- 3:39And I do know I just had a
- 3:40conversation with Mike Mumbly,
- 3:44Mumbly's off-road, give him a shout out.
- 3:46He's a long time friend.
- 3:47His son has quite a few
- 3:49rock lights under his truck
- 3:51and he gets stopped all the time.
- 3:53Young younger guys,
- 3:54he's pushing his luck,
- 3:55but they always let them
- 3:56go because you're right.
- 3:57They're legal.
- 3:58They're not in line of sight.
- 4:00They're white.
- 4:00They're not red.
- 4:01They're not blue.
- 4:02They're not flashing.
- 4:03They're legal, but that
- 4:04won't prevent you necessarily
- 4:06according to Mike
- 4:07from getting pulled over.
- 4:09Oh yeah, because
- 4:10there's a lot of discretion.
- 4:12The cop might get in trouble,
- 4:13but you're still getting pulled over.
- 4:15Exactly.
- 4:17All right, so I started today off
- 4:20with a little information about Josh.
- 4:22We didn't have an
- 4:22episode last week with Josh,
- 4:24a flagship episode with Josh.
- 4:27And if you guys recall,
- 4:29Josh has an ailing mother
- 4:31that's going through chemotherapy.
- 4:33So I wasn't gonna ask him,
- 4:36I'll be recording this week.
- 4:38I'm completely leaving it
- 4:39up to him and his schedule,
- 4:41especially since he's
- 4:42working more than one job.
- 4:46But I reached out to him today.
- 4:49I wasn't sure if we were
- 4:50gonna record this week at all
- 4:52for the flagship.
- 4:53And I reached out and just
- 4:54asked him, how's it going?
- 4:56And I got a paragraph back.
- 5:00(laughing)
- 5:01Sorry to ask.
- 5:02No, no, not at all.
- 5:03I was serious when I asked.
- 5:06So I'll just relate some
- 5:09of the stuff about Josh.
- 5:10He says, I was
- 5:11actually going to text you.
- 5:13There is a bit of things going on.
- 5:17No, things aren't great right now.
- 5:20So of course there's some
- 5:22mom related information here,
- 5:24but she's being looked
- 5:27after by the medical staff.
- 5:29And Josh says he woke
- 5:31up with a bad abscess
- 5:33at his upper jaw on Sunday.
- 5:36And it ruptured last night.
- 5:38Google is saying I need
- 5:40to go to the ER right away.
- 5:42Life threatening, yada, yada.
- 5:47(laughing) So it's been about a
- 5:49year since my gallbladder
- 5:52left the chat room and I had
- 5:54to have the emergency surgery
- 5:56because I was going sepsis.
- 5:58So I was relating to him
- 6:00that Diane wasn't so bad.
- 6:02I mean, I was just like really sleepy.
- 6:05(laughing)
- 6:08Oh, which got him chuckling.
- 6:10So yeah, it seems like to me,
- 6:12Josh has gone through this before
- 6:14with something having
- 6:15to do with his teeth
- 6:16and an infection type thing.
- 6:18So I'm not quite sure what that is.
- 6:22I mean, for some reason
- 6:23I have very hard teeth.
- 6:26Oh, and my youngest son was
- 6:28thanking me the other day.
- 6:29He goes, I think I've got that
- 6:31same hard enamel teeth you do
- 6:33because I never have any teeth problems.
- 6:35And I just don't have to
- 6:37do anything to my teeth.
- 6:39Ever since I've got
- 6:40my permanent teeth in,
- 6:42I think I've had one surface cavity
- 6:46that they cleaned up a
- 6:48little bit or something.
- 6:49But so very lucky they're very lucky
- 6:51not having the abscess.
- 6:53Not so lucky with the gallbladder.
- 6:55But you know, this is
- 6:55the way things goes.
- 6:57Lucky in love, not
- 6:58lucky with gallbladders.
- 6:59(laughing)
- 7:01So anyway, I don't think we're gonna be
- 7:04recording this week.
- 7:05He could surprise me, but I don't think
- 7:07we're gonna be recording a flagship
- 7:09episode this week either.
- 7:10It doesn't mean we're
- 7:11gone or we're pod fading.
- 7:13It just means that life is
- 7:15going on and so on and so forth.
- 7:19All right, so that's
- 7:20what's going on with Josh.
- 7:22And I was gonna find out,
- 7:24I thought we'd get together and find out
- 7:26what's been going on with Chris.
- 7:28So Chris, you recently emceed,
- 7:31and this wasn't the
- 7:31first time you emceed.
- 7:33You recently emceed over for Forefest in
- 7:37Detroit, didn't you?
- 7:39Yes, just two weekends ago,
- 7:41the first or mid part of September.
- 7:44So the, I believe it was
- 7:45the fourth annual Forefest
- 7:46and I had the privilege to
- 7:48emceed for the third year
- 7:49in a row and was an all in all good day.
- 7:53Bit of rain, spitting rain all day,
- 7:54little cool, not too cold.
- 7:56So might've kept some people away,
- 7:58made the Jeeps extra muddy.
- 8:00And there was the Tom
- 8:02Zielinski, good friend of the show,
- 8:04who runs Forefest and Forefest events
- 8:06and Hollyoaks ORV Park had the national
- 8:10rock racing association.
- 8:11So the, I mean, they're not Jeeps,
- 8:14but they're the buggies and UTVs or ATVs.
- 8:17So they had the rock bouncers,
- 8:19which are the purpose built,
- 8:21and I learned from talking to the drivers
- 8:23and was able to have
- 8:25a couple up on stage,
- 8:26big block, big block
- 8:27forward, big block Chevy,
- 8:28purpose built buggies, solid
- 8:30axle rear, solid axle front,
- 8:33and they were just getting after it.
- 8:34So go to YouTube, look up,
- 8:37nationalrockracingassociation.com
- 8:40or go Forefest.
- 8:41I just saw someone posted a video today
- 8:43of the racing activities.
- 8:45So that was really neat to see.
- 8:46Again, it's not cheap and
- 8:47it's not slow and curious.
- 8:49It's kind of the, it
- 8:50is the fast and furious
- 8:51of the off-road community.
- 8:53And I had a great time out there,
- 8:57announced some of it.
- 8:58I was able to announce the awards
- 9:00and just an all in all good time.
- 9:02Unfortunately, just
- 9:03the rain put a damper,
- 9:05a literal and a
- 9:06figurative damper on the day,
- 9:07but saw a lot of muddy Jeeps,
- 9:09was really neat to see.
- 9:11And then Forefest has
- 9:13always been powered by Jeep
- 9:14and really neat to see mostly Jeeps,
- 9:17not a lot of Broncos,
- 9:19mostly Jeeps, a lot of JLs.
- 9:22Gladiators, JKs, but
- 9:25not a lot of Broncos,
- 9:26which warms my heart.
- 9:28So was there anybody that
- 9:31you were surprised to see
- 9:32out there at the Forefest?
- 9:33Any interactions that
- 9:35were something interesting
- 9:37to report on?
- 9:38Yeah, I got to meet a
- 9:40listener, a long time listener
- 9:41to learn Madram Mike.
- 9:42And he was the videographer
- 9:45for the National Rock Racing Association.
- 9:47He came over to me, been a
- 9:48listener since episode one.
- 9:50So that was really neat to meet him
- 9:52and to hand out some stickers.
- 9:54Also met Anastasia from
- 9:56a former Chick Chat host.
- 9:58Now she doesn't have a Jeep.
- 9:59Also met her husband
- 10:00who does have a Jeep.
- 10:01So Anastasia was out
- 10:03there and the Grenadier,
- 10:04the NEO Grenadier, which
- 10:06it's an off-road vehicle,
- 10:07Land Rover style type vehicles,
- 10:10but it was really neat to meet her.
- 10:12Really talked to her husband more.
- 10:13He's got a JL on 38s and tons.
- 10:16So good conversation
- 10:18with Anastasia's husband
- 10:20and good to see Mike.
- 10:22And good recognition folks
- 10:24had listened to the show.
- 10:26I recognized the Jeep Talk
- 10:27Show logos on my Gladiator
- 10:29and just some good fan interaction.
- 10:32But again, it was just
- 10:33a very muddy, rainy day.
- 10:36So people really weren't hanging out
- 10:38and farting around too much
- 10:40because it just wasn't great weather.
- 10:42Yeah, that's a shame.
- 10:43But I mean, that's
- 10:44the risk you always have
- 10:45for any event.
- 10:47Yes, especially an outdoor event.
- 10:48I think EJS had some flooding
- 10:52or at least some vigorous rain last year.
- 10:56I think I remember hearing about that
- 10:57from the Jeep Talk Show
- 10:59folks that were out there.
- 11:01So, you know, it's all
- 11:02part of the adventure, right?
- 11:04Absolutely.
- 11:05That's what it's all about.
- 11:06Get a little muddy, get a little dirty.
- 11:08So I know from talking with Anastasia,
- 11:12we did an interview.
- 11:14Don't remember, it was over a year ago.
- 11:17Did an interview.
- 11:17I remember her talking
- 11:18about her love for Jeeps.
- 11:20And, but she got this Grenadier.
- 11:24I think it was a family purchase
- 11:27and she's been driving that.
- 11:30I was surprised to hear from you
- 11:32when you were talking to her husband
- 11:34that if he made that, correct me on this,
- 11:37I think he made a comment that you or him
- 11:39would not fit so well in the Grenadier,
- 11:41which I was very surprised
- 11:43because that thing looks like a bus.
- 11:46It looks huge.
- 11:48I mean, it's perfect for her
- 11:49because I don't think
- 11:50she's much over five two.
- 11:52Maybe she's five four.
- 11:53Never met her in person.
- 11:55But seems like to be
- 11:57a lot of room for her.
- 11:59It is, I'm sure.
- 12:00And I sat in one, not at
- 12:02this four fest, but last year.
- 12:04And it's a European vehicle
- 12:07and the European vehicles, I believe,
- 12:09are built a little smaller.
- 12:10I would say it's at least
- 12:12the overall length of a JL,
- 12:14a four door JL.
- 12:16They do have a quarter master,
- 12:17which I believe is almost lengthwise
- 12:20identical to a Gladiator.
- 12:21But you're right, it
- 12:22doesn't have the interior space
- 12:25that a JL or Gladiator has.
- 12:28So yeah, it would be a
- 12:29little uncomfortable.
- 12:30Maybe they have some
- 12:31aftermarket parts or kits
- 12:33to move the seat back.
- 12:34Maybe not, but definitely
- 12:35a European style vehicle,
- 12:38if that makes sense.
- 12:39Was the physical outside?
- 12:40I mean, I've never seen one in person.
- 12:43But was the physical outside of it small?
- 12:46It seems like it's large.
- 12:48No, to your point, it's deceiving as
- 12:52large as it is outside.
- 12:53It's cramped inside for
- 12:56much over six foot two,
- 12:57like you or I or Anastasia's husband,
- 13:00we're about six, three, six, four,
- 13:03depending on which convenience store
- 13:04you're running out of.
- 13:05But yeah, it's deceiving.
- 13:08But it has a very tall,
- 13:10it's got a tall posture to it,
- 13:13probably the wrong word, like Land Rover.
- 13:15So it's got the skinny tires
- 13:17and just the tall roofline,
- 13:18I guess, instead of
- 13:19posture, tall roofline.
- 13:21And it's got great stop.
- 13:23I was teasing our
- 13:24friend, Chris from G-tops.
- 13:26It's got G-tops already in it,
- 13:28but they're glass and they open.
- 13:30So it gives a, even
- 13:32when you're inside of it,
- 13:33gives a much more wide open feel
- 13:35because you have the open,
- 13:37the windows that can open, you know,
- 13:39three inches over your
- 13:41head, driver passenger.
- 13:43You know, I'm glad you mentioned G-tops.
- 13:46They're not G-tops, it's part of the
- 13:48Ennio's Grenadier design.
- 13:50Correct, yes.
- 13:51But they're like G-tops.
- 13:53And it is really neat.
- 13:56You have a set of
- 13:57G-tops on your Gladiator.
- 13:59I've got a set of G-tops on my Gladiator.
- 14:01And it's just like having a sunroof.
- 14:05I think the last time I had anything
- 14:07that I could see out of
- 14:08above me was my 82 iRock Z
- 14:13that I bought used with the
- 14:15T-tops that you could take off.
- 14:17And that was so cool to
- 14:19be able to drive around
- 14:20and have that or to take
- 14:21them off and have it open.
- 14:23Much the same type of deal that you have
- 14:26with the ability to take
- 14:28the freedom panels off.
- 14:29And I guess it's after having the G-tops
- 14:33and talking to Chris
- 14:34over at G-tops so much
- 14:36that I just kind of shake my
- 14:38heads when I see clear lids
- 14:40or this 360, 365 single
- 14:45sheet of glass type thing.
- 14:48And I will say that the
- 14:49one, I think it's the 360,
- 14:52that's a really cool look.
- 14:53It's completely clear from one side
- 14:55all the way over to the other.
- 14:58My concern about it is
- 15:00that if you wanna do something
- 15:03like you do with freedom panels,
- 15:04just take them off, put them in the bag
- 15:06and drive around open air,
- 15:08you need doing that with the 360.
- 15:10I mean, you don't have to
- 15:12have the top off in your Jeep.
- 15:14You can just have that thing
- 15:15on there and leave it on there.
- 15:16But it really keeps you from
- 15:19being able to take that off
- 15:20in those rare days, especially down here,
- 15:24where it's fall weather or pre-winter
- 15:27and it's nice and chipper outside
- 15:29and driving just the
- 15:31smells and everything
- 15:32that you can experience with the top off,
- 15:34it makes it worth it.
- 15:36The G-tops for me, I don't
- 15:38know how you feel about it,
- 15:39but the G-tops for me
- 15:40means I can treat this
- 15:41as like a regular freedom panel.
- 15:43I can stick it in the
- 15:43bag, carry them with me,
- 15:46as long as I don't have a
- 15:47bunch of people with me,
- 15:48carry the freedom panels with me,
- 15:50it starts raining, put them back on,
- 15:51but I can still see through them.
- 15:53Yes, and then they're
- 15:54modified freedom panels.
- 15:56I absolutely agree.
- 15:58And it gives you plenty of
- 16:00light, plenty of visibility.
- 16:02The other thing, the
- 16:03365, and I don't know this,
- 16:05if they have a
- 16:06screen, I have also have a,
- 16:08my wife drives a 2025 Jeep Grand Cherokee
- 16:12with the glass roof and it's great,
- 16:14but when you forget to close the shade
- 16:17and it sits outside in the morning,
- 16:18especially on the weekend,
- 16:19maybe you're getting a little bit later,
- 16:21starting the day, it's
- 16:22quite warm under the glass.
- 16:23So that would be my concern
- 16:24as well with the 365 G-tops,
- 16:27comes with optional screens to put in,
- 16:31I like the way you did
- 16:32that, you're in sales.
- 16:33I like the way you did that,
- 16:35comes with optional screens.
- 16:39It doesn't come with
- 16:39it, they're optional.
- 16:41Optional, yes.
- 16:42But hopefully you
- 16:43slide that right through,
- 16:44you get the sale and go,
- 16:45hey, where's my screens?
- 16:46Oh, like I said, those are optional.
- 16:48Yeah, those are a little
- 16:50bit more, but no, I agree.
- 16:51And I enjoy the freedom,
- 16:52taking the freedom panels off
- 16:54for those days, like you mentioned,
- 16:55but you don't wanna travel too far,
- 16:57you don't wanna be
- 16:58without the freedom panels
- 16:59that are in the back seat or in my case,
- 17:01I throw them in the bed of gladiator.
- 17:03So you always have them
- 17:04with you, you can button it up.
- 17:05And my thing, I've always had anxiety
- 17:07when I had my JK in the freedom panels
- 17:09or having the top off, I just had anxiety
- 17:12and it's probably not justified
- 17:14if somebody crawling in
- 17:15there and doing something
- 17:16or an animal or a bird.
- 17:19Spiders.
- 17:20Yeah, something, I mean.
- 17:22I'm gonna be doing 75 miles an hour
- 17:24and a spider's gonna go, eee!
- 17:26Right in front of me.
- 17:30(laughing)
- 17:33Yeah, they're pretty cool.
- 17:35So I think it was 2025, my
- 17:38wife and I went out there
- 17:39and that was the first
- 17:40year that I had the G-tops.
- 17:44And when we were out
- 17:45there, and don't get me wrong,
- 17:47I loved the changing weather,
- 17:49in fact, on our way to EJS in New Mexico,
- 17:54I think it was New Mexico,
- 17:56we got through quite a bit of snow.
- 18:00I mean, it was for two
- 18:02native Southeast Texans,
- 18:05it was just so cool
- 18:07to see that much snow.
- 18:09And because of the
- 18:11G-tops, you could look above,
- 18:13you could look down, you look all around,
- 18:16but we were still in a
- 18:17nice warm environment
- 18:18with a heater on.
- 18:19And I know you guys are going,
- 18:21"Oh, boo, you're
- 18:22supposed to have the top off,
- 18:23"be getting wet or
- 18:25burned up or whatever."
- 18:27Yeah, that's fine, you peasants do that.
- 18:30I'm gonna use the clear tops.
- 18:33Absolutely, absolutely.
- 18:35I still wanna get that one put in
- 18:38for the rear part of the top.
- 18:42I don't know what you
- 18:43call it, the main cabin top,
- 18:44not the freedom panels,
- 18:46because he has a
- 18:47panoramic that goes in the back.
- 18:49I just like that.
- 18:50I just love those things.
- 18:51Ever since we, you
- 18:52actually set up an interview
- 18:53with Chris, that's how
- 18:54I found out about him.
- 18:56But I was nervous about
- 18:58having my freedom panels cut
- 19:01and the stuff put in there.
- 19:03I mean, you can, and this
- 19:05is like I've told Chris,
- 19:06it's difficult to, I
- 19:09mean, the price is great.
- 19:10The price is the same
- 19:11as the best flip top,
- 19:13that thing that you
- 19:14flip out of, by the way,
- 19:16that 360, 365, I think is around $1,200.
- 19:20The clear lids, which I
- 19:22personally would never touch,
- 19:23that thing looks like a nightingree.
- 19:25And they're all the same price.
- 19:28So the only one that I
- 19:31know that passes the test
- 19:33for impact resistant polymer and meets
- 19:37the automotive standard and also too,
- 19:41has the advantage of the
- 19:43still just being freedom panels
- 19:45where you can just take them off, but on.
- 19:47I mean, seeing more is always nice,
- 19:49but you gotta say something
- 19:51about the convenience of it,
- 19:52and still being able to
- 19:54use it as a record of Jeep.
- 19:55Anyway, very happy with it.
- 19:57Didn't mean to do a
- 19:58commercial for Chris and GTOPS,
- 20:00but it's one of those
- 20:01things that I think,
- 20:02I know I love and I
- 20:03think you love it too, Chris.
- 20:04Absolutely.
- 20:07It's one of those things though,
- 20:08that most people don't see,
- 20:10especially on a lifted Gladiator,
- 20:11because it's kind of up high.
- 20:13When they sit down, they
- 20:15go, oh, what's that light?
- 20:16Oh, that's neat.
- 20:19Yeah, but since I've
- 20:20looked at my Gladiator recently,
- 20:22it is more apparent
- 20:24when you open the door.
- 20:25Obviously, if you've got
- 20:26somebody getting in your Jeep,
- 20:27they're gonna see it eventually,
- 20:28but it is a lot more
- 20:29apparent when it's lifted
- 20:30and they're looking up or
- 20:31looking for the grab handle,
- 20:33because it's obviously
- 20:34taller to get in a lifted Jeep.
- 20:37So it draws more
- 20:39attention to it initially.
- 20:41Yeah, and as I was saying, out at EJS,
- 20:44we went through a little bit of snow,
- 20:47little bit of rain,
- 20:48little bit of sunshine,
- 20:50a little bit of, it was
- 20:51kind of cold, so cold weather,
- 20:54but it was just amazing
- 20:58with the view that we had.
- 20:59I mean, it was 180 side
- 21:02to side and vertically.
- 21:04So, and especially with
- 21:05those cliffs and stuff,
- 21:06as you're the rock
- 21:07formations that you're driving by
- 21:09that are several hundred feet
- 21:10high or a thousand feet high,
- 21:12you can just look up and look at them
- 21:13as you're driving along.
- 21:14You don't have to hang
- 21:15your head out the window
- 21:17and take anything off
- 21:18to be able to enjoy that.
- 21:22All right, so you have another MC event
- 21:27that you're gonna be doing
- 21:28this weekend, aren't you?
- 21:29Yeah, the Bowling Green
- 21:314x4 Fest, Bowling Green Ohio,
- 21:33recent Rachel, Rachel was
- 21:34a recent interview guest,
- 21:36she had on just a week or two ago.
- 21:37So the privilege to MC
- 21:39that event for the second year
- 21:40in a row, so it's one day, October 3rd,
- 21:43Saturday, October
- 21:443rd, Friday, October 2nd,
- 21:45they're doing a hype event
- 21:47at Thayer Chrysler Jeep Dodge
- 21:51in Bowling Green, Ohio,
- 21:52right down the street.
- 21:53And yeah, gonna be a mud pit,
- 21:56which was really neat last year.
- 21:58I'll get some video and
- 21:58some more content on that,
- 22:00but they have a purpose built mud pit,
- 22:02car crushing Friday
- 22:03night, balance blocks,
- 22:04and then the mud pit all day on Saturday.
- 22:07They'll also have the sled pole.
- 22:09So it's at the Wood County Fairgrounds
- 22:12in Bowling Green, Ohio,
- 22:13which I learned last year
- 22:15that is the site of the
- 22:17National Tractor Pole Association.
- 22:19And the end of August, every
- 22:21year from around the country,
- 22:23and I believe some parts of Canada,
- 22:25the professional tractor pole folks,
- 22:27and we've all seen them since the 70s,
- 22:30they have the tractors
- 22:32that have four or two
- 22:34or five or six engines.
- 22:36That's where the national championship is
- 22:38at the last weekend in August.
- 22:40So they use that same track.
- 22:44With grandstands on both sides,
- 22:47and you have the
- 22:48opportunity for a donation
- 22:49that all goes to charity to
- 22:52give your shot at pulling,
- 22:54seeing how far you can pull,
- 22:55seeing if you can get a full pull.
- 22:56And that's just pretty neat.
- 22:58I don't know that I'm
- 22:59gonna do it with my gladiator,
- 23:01but there were a couple of Jeeps
- 23:02that gave a pull at the sled.
- 23:04So that's going on for a
- 23:06couple hours on Saturday.
- 23:08Then we're gonna have stuff for the kids,
- 23:10and they're gonna have some kiddie poles
- 23:13with some pedal tractors and vendors.
- 23:16So just a good one day event.
- 23:18This year they've also added a
- 23:21concert at 7 p.m. on Saturday,
- 23:23and then a drone show that's
- 23:25gonna go off at nine o'clock
- 23:27on the third Saturday night.
- 23:28So just a good fun day.
- 23:30The weather looks
- 23:31about 50-50 rain or shine,
- 23:34maybe a little rain in the morning,
- 23:35which would obviously help the mud pit.
- 23:37So it's gonna be a fun day.
- 23:39Well, I'm sure they got
- 23:40a hose for the mud pit.
- 23:42The thing I thought was really cool
- 23:44is you can get out
- 23:45there in your XJ or your JK
- 23:47or your JL, GLU, and pull the tractor.
- 23:51And I think I had asked Rachel, I said,
- 23:53"So do you guys do
- 23:55something different with the sled?"
- 23:58So that, I mean,
- 23:59because they get out there
- 24:00with huge tractors and
- 24:02diesel trucks for the sled pull,
- 24:04and I can't imagine an XJ.
- 24:07Not saying it can't.
- 24:09I can't, not saying it will
- 24:10be drivable once it's done,
- 24:13but she said they adjust it.
- 24:15So I think that would be really cool
- 24:18to see an XJ do it a sled
- 24:19pull on a national track.
- 24:22Yes, and it is, I learned too, it is,
- 24:25they have different classes,
- 24:26and that's by weight of the vehicle.
- 24:27So weight of an XJ, weight of
- 24:30say a F-250 with a big diesel,
- 24:32and that's how they make the adjustment.
- 24:34I don't know what it is, but yeah,
- 24:36they're not out there to break it.
- 24:38There was a gentleman last year,
- 24:39I saw on a two-door JK that was a manual,
- 24:42and that was impressive.
- 24:44He got it a lot farther
- 24:45than anybody thought he would,
- 24:46and I thought the front wheels
- 24:47were gonna come off the ground.
- 24:48They didn't, but he was
- 24:50pulling it pretty good.
- 24:51He was in the mud pit
- 24:52later on in the afternoon,
- 24:54and he drove it home, presumably.
- 24:57So yeah, that's just neat to see,
- 24:59it need to be at that facility.
- 25:00It has seating for 5,000 people outside
- 25:05along either side of this track.
- 25:08Unfortunately, some family
- 25:10stuff got in the way this year,
- 25:11but really, if you're
- 25:13within a few hundred miles
- 25:15of Bowling Green, Ohio,
- 25:16it's just south of Toledo,
- 25:18I think at the end of August,
- 25:19that would be quite a party
- 25:20and quite an event to see,
- 25:22because again, they come in
- 25:23from all over the country.
- 25:25The Wood County
- 25:26Fairgrounds is a great facility.
- 25:28I'm also gonna be
- 25:29camping there Friday night
- 25:31in the Gladiator and Theracamper,
- 25:34and I was also told last year
- 25:37that it is the
- 25:37largest permanent campground
- 25:39adjacent to a
- 25:40professional motorsports venue,
- 25:42larger than NASCAR, so
- 25:44very, very large campground,
- 25:46which useless fact, but I
- 25:48thought was interesting.
- 25:50No, it's cool, especially if
- 25:51you don't wanna rent a hotel.
- 25:54Hotels are so expensive.
- 25:56So is it, was it, I should
- 25:58remember this, but I don't,
- 25:59was it BG?
- 26:00BG, I'm trying to remember the website.
- 26:04Is it BG4x4fest.com?
- 26:07Yes, that's correct, yes, BG4x4fest.com.
- 26:12Yep, so go out there and check it out
- 26:13and say hello to Chris.
- 26:15If you can, interrupt
- 26:17him while he's talking.
- 26:18Best of them.
- 26:20Okay, you mentioned camping,
- 26:23and I definitely wanted to talk to you
- 26:24about the Theracamper,
- 26:27and let's explain the Theracamper,
- 26:30because it sounds hoagie.
- 26:32A par, well, I mean, I guess
- 26:34if you got a name like par,
- 26:35it makes perfect sense.
- 26:38(laughing)
- 26:38Yes.
- 26:39Par, Thar, but it's like
- 26:42the air camper without the E.
- 26:44Yes.
- 26:45So he loves it.
- 26:47He kind of giggles, because we
- 26:48interviewed him too.
- 26:49He kind of giggles at
- 26:50how well it worked out,
- 26:51getting the tharacamper.com.
- 26:55And through par and the theracamper.com,
- 26:59we have a camper, it's
- 27:01an inflatable camper.
- 27:03No, it's not what you think,
- 27:04because I think most
- 27:05people think like me,
- 27:06they think it's like one
- 27:07of those inflatable dolls
- 27:08or something.
- 27:09There's no basic shape to it.
- 27:12It's just whatever
- 27:12the air holds in place.
- 27:14But this is different.
- 27:15It has built-in stuff
- 27:18in it between the walls,
- 27:19so it forms its shape.
- 27:21And I mean, it knows its shape,
- 27:23and then when you put air in it,
- 27:24it just kind of
- 27:25solidifies the whole thing.
- 27:26And Parr sent you a
- 27:29camper for your gladiator,
- 27:32a much better choice for you than me,
- 27:34because you go out and do stuff.
- 27:36Mine would be sitting in
- 27:37the back of the gladiator
- 27:38or in the garage.
- 27:40So, and you've been
- 27:41very impressed with this.
- 27:43I mean, you've done
- 27:43tent camping for a while,
- 27:46and this is your first
- 27:47time getting a little bit
- 27:50out of the bear harm's way.
- 27:53Yes, you have tent
- 27:54camp for my whole life,
- 27:55say for one trip to a race
- 27:59where we rented a proper motorhome,
- 28:02but that was a
- 28:03work-related thing many years ago.
- 28:05So I've tent camped for my
- 28:06life for over 25 years camping.
- 28:09And this is a camper, and
- 28:12it's an inflatable camper.
- 28:14Like you said, it's the stand-up
- 28:16paddleboard material
- 28:17or drop stitch technology.
- 28:20In fact, if you go to JeepTalkShow.com,
- 28:23search drops, drops stitch technology,
- 28:26and you'll find the
- 28:27interview that you did,
- 28:28Tony with Parr, the
- 28:30inventor and owner of their camper.
- 28:32And it becomes rigid, like you said,
- 28:35and it runs only four to
- 28:37five PSI in all of the chambers
- 28:39or six chambers, I believe.
- 28:41Well, you were running at 10 or 15
- 28:44when you first got it, weren't you?
- 28:46And you couldn't make it fit.
- 28:48Yes, read the
- 28:50directions, read the directions.
- 28:52You just have to wing it
- 28:53first, then read the directions
- 28:54so it doesn't work out.
- 28:56It didn't fit.
- 28:56So on the valve, just like a tire,
- 28:58maximum do not exceed pressure of,
- 29:01maximum pressure is.
- 29:02And it says 15 on the valve.
- 29:04So it was a lot bigger or more rigid,
- 29:07so it wouldn't quite fit
- 29:08in the bed at the gladiator.
- 29:09So after reading the
- 29:11directions for a moment,
- 29:12I figured that out and
- 29:14it's rigid at five PSI.
- 29:16So I run all the panels at five PSI.
- 29:19It can sleep three men.
- 29:22I think kids or maybe the
- 29:24wife would be a little cozier,
- 29:26but it is a fully, I love Parr's tagline,
- 29:31inflatable and interstatable camper.
- 29:34So you inflate it,
- 29:36install it, inflate it,
- 29:37strap it down to the bed and the top
- 29:39and go down the road with it.
- 29:41Yeah, that's a lot of
- 29:42people don't understand that.
- 29:43You've run across that with people
- 29:45that they don't
- 29:45understand that you air it up
- 29:47and then you drive wherever you're going.
- 29:49It's not something you're installing.
- 29:51It's not like a 10th you're putting up
- 29:53every time you go to a new place.
- 29:55Correct, and I had a
- 29:56woman at work at the office.
- 29:58So to clarify, I've done five nights in
- 30:00it so far since June
- 30:02and five nights of my sixth night
- 30:05will be at the Bowling
- 30:06Green, the four fasts
- 30:07and probably have about 3000 miles on it.
- 30:11I've left it on, it drive to work in it.
- 30:14I mean, you're not
- 30:14gonna go through the drive
- 30:15or the McDonald's drive through
- 30:17because it is quite tall
- 30:19over top, the gladiator.
- 30:20And like I mentioned
- 30:21before, I've got a bit of a lift
- 30:22and 35's on my gladiator.
- 30:24So I guess, it's about
- 30:26nine feet off the ground,
- 30:27maybe nine and a half
- 30:28feet at the top of it,
- 30:30over top the gladiator.
- 30:32So it's up there, but yeah, you drive
- 30:35down the road on it.
- 30:35You're not inflating it when
- 30:37you get to your destination.
- 30:38You put all your stuff
- 30:39right down the middle,
- 30:41your firewood, your
- 30:42chairs, your coolers, your boxes,
- 30:44whatever you take on your camping trip,
- 30:47you put it right down the middle.
- 30:48I've left, I used it last weekend.
- 30:51I'm obviously gonna use it this weekend.
- 30:53I left my sleeping mat,
- 30:54my sleeping pad, my pillow,
- 30:56some clothes, so it's ready to go.
- 30:58It's ready to go just
- 30:59like a real camper is.
- 31:01That's what I love about it.
- 31:03So that's really been different.
- 31:05And then for me, I did a last minute trip
- 31:08to a sprint car race this past weekend
- 31:11and everything was in there.
- 31:13I put a cooler with some
- 31:14waters and some food in the back
- 31:16and my buddy and I got to
- 31:17the race late, pulled up,
- 31:19went in, watched the race, race ran late.
- 31:21My point saying all that,
- 31:22we got back, it was late.
- 31:24I'm like, yeah, let's just crash.
- 31:26Crawled up inside,
- 31:27crashed, got up in the morning,
- 31:29had a little coffee, you ready to go?
- 31:31Put the cooler, put the
- 31:32chairs back in and you drive away.
- 31:34And for me, I say, yes.
- 31:36You're not doing a lot
- 31:37of work, you're tired.
- 31:38You just lay down, go to
- 31:39sleep, get up, drive away.
- 31:42It sounds like a perfect situation.
- 31:44Now the important question is,
- 31:46how does it sleep versus the tent?
- 31:49I would say about the same.
- 31:51It's a little more insulated than a tent
- 31:54because it's about two inches each.
- 31:57Wall is two inches wide.
- 31:58So you're gonna be a bit more insulated
- 32:00than a tent on the ground.
- 32:02But for me, sleeps very well.
- 32:05You can adjust the pressure.
- 32:06I also got the buddy bunk.
- 32:09So you can configure
- 32:10the inside of the camper
- 32:12and then you can go to theracamper.com.
- 32:14You can see how you can configure it.
- 32:16So basically you have
- 32:17two sides or two benches.
- 32:19And then you have a cab over portion
- 32:21that goes over the cab.
- 32:23And the first couple nights,
- 32:24my buddy slept over the cab with no issue
- 32:27and then got the buddy bunk.
- 32:28So there's two, down to two,
- 32:31you can get a buddy bunk
- 32:32for either or both sides
- 32:33of those benches, which
- 32:35extend the sleeping area,
- 32:36which makes it more comfortable.
- 32:38And that's what we've been doing now
- 32:40is just sleep on one side or the other.
- 32:42There's also a twin and a queen mattress
- 32:46that you can get to go side by side.
- 32:47And I've seen on the website,
- 32:49you'll see some folks,
- 32:50maybe they're
- 32:51sleeping with their partner,
- 32:52their wife, their husband,
- 32:53whoever it is, their kids.
- 32:54So they'll sleep side to side.
- 32:55So you've got a little
- 32:56more room side to side,
- 32:57but it wouldn't be something you do
- 32:59with one of your buddies,
- 33:01one of your drinking
- 33:01buddies or your fishing buddies.
- 33:05But it's your business teacher's own.
- 33:07But in all seriousness,
- 33:08so you can configure
- 33:09it a few different ways.
- 33:11And I've connected with some
- 33:12other users of Thayer Camper
- 33:14that they take their
- 33:15wife, their son and their dog,
- 33:17or they take their son, their dog
- 33:18and their fishing gear.
- 33:22So it's just endless
- 33:24ways to configure it.
- 33:25I'm really getting used to, like I said,
- 33:27coming 25 plus years in a tent.
- 33:29Now it's like, wow,
- 33:30you don't have to take
- 33:32stakes out of the ground
- 33:33and roll it up.
- 33:34You can leave your sleeping bag in place.
- 33:35It's not gonna go anywhere.
- 33:37You can leave your camp
- 33:38chair, your camp table,
- 33:40your box of firewood.
- 33:41You can leave it all
- 33:42there, which is great.
- 33:43And then everything's been
- 33:45in mind since last weekend.
- 33:46I'm gonna put some sandwiches and some
- 33:48waters in the cooler
- 33:49Friday morning when I go
- 33:51to work and I'm ready to go.
- 33:53But yeah, it's still,
- 33:55people still struggle with it.
- 33:58You inflate it when you get there.
- 33:59It's like, no, it's just like it is.
- 34:02Well, it makes sense.
- 34:02It's inflatable.
- 34:03So you'd figure that,
- 34:05and I'm sure they think of the idea
- 34:06of you driving down the
- 34:07highway at 70 miles an hour
- 34:08with this big, huge inflatable thing
- 34:11that you probably have to
- 34:13deflate it at least somewhat.
- 34:14And that's not the case at all.
- 34:16You set it up and then you just go and go
- 34:18until you're ready to
- 34:19take it off and store it.
- 34:21Yes, and it weighs total
- 34:23180 pounds, the camper itself.
- 34:25So it is not virtually
- 34:27no weight in the bed.
- 34:29It's not top heavy.
- 34:31I mean, some other folks say,
- 34:32oh, your gas mileage must be horrible.
- 34:34It's gone down about one and a half MPGs.
- 34:36I've calculated it.
- 34:37No, I've got it.
- 34:37It's just the wind.
- 34:38Yeah, it's just the wind break.
- 34:41But it's not going from 15 to five.
- 34:45And the only time you feel it
- 34:47is when you pass a semi truck
- 34:50with the tractor trailer.
- 34:52That's the only time you feel it.
- 34:54Oh, I'm sorry, before we
- 34:54get too far away from it,
- 34:55I wanted to ask you, you
- 34:57were talking about the tent
- 34:58or the car camper, the
- 35:02comfort is about the same.
- 35:03Do you have anything for
- 35:04the tent, a cot or anything?
- 35:07Or are you laying straight
- 35:09on the ground in the tent?
- 35:11I've done both.
- 35:11Recently in the last year,
- 35:13I've added a cot to my
- 35:15tent camping equipment.
- 35:17So now you don't have to have the cot.
- 35:19You can just lay in the, again,
- 35:21the convenience factor of
- 35:23this thing and it's ready to go.
- 35:24Oh, how long does it
- 35:25take you to air it up?
- 35:27It takes about 15 minutes, to air it up.
- 35:30It comes with a pump.
- 35:32It comes with an electric pump,
- 35:34as well as a hand pump,
- 35:36which works very well.
- 35:37I say 15 minutes in total,
- 35:39because you've got to get it in the
- 35:41gladiator or any truck,
- 35:42you put it to about two or
- 35:44three PSI to give it structure.
- 35:46Then you get it fitted,
- 35:47you get it strapped down,
- 35:48get it locked down with the straps,
- 35:50and then you take it to five PSI.
- 35:51So total half hour, if
- 35:56you're doing it by yourself,
- 35:57maybe a little bit more.
- 35:58But it's, yeah, and it's
- 35:59something that can be done
- 36:00and Parr has on his website.
- 36:02He does it himself.
- 36:03It just helps if you've
- 36:05got a buddy helping you out,
- 36:06just pulling the straps
- 36:08and makes it go along.
- 36:09But I'd say 15 minutes to inflate it.
- 36:12But you do need to inflate
- 36:13it to give it some structure
- 36:15before you tilt it up into the bed.
- 36:17Because when it's deflated,
- 36:19it's a big 180 pound mass
- 36:22of rubber, more or less.
- 36:24So it seems like you've mentioned this,
- 36:26correct me if I'm wrong,
- 36:27but I think that the air
- 36:29pump that comes with it,
- 36:30the electric air pump that comes with it,
- 36:33it's not 100% duty cycle.
- 36:35So you can only run it for a little bit,
- 36:37and then you gotta let it cool off
- 36:39and then continue running it.
- 36:40Is that correct?
- 36:42No, actually, I've heard duty cycle.
- 36:47It doesn't get real warm.
- 36:48It does not get real warm.
- 36:50Now, again, I made the
- 36:51mistake initially thinking
- 36:52I need to go to 15 PSI, and
- 36:54it was taking a long time.
- 36:56But depending on the
- 36:57vehicle, the Gladiator,
- 36:59the five PSI, I've messaged other people.
- 37:02They run between five and seven.
- 37:03I'd say no more than 10.
- 37:06I mean, it has structure at three PSI,
- 37:09and it doesn't sound
- 37:10like a lot, but it is.
- 37:12But the pump I've
- 37:13been very impressed with
- 37:15in deflating it, reinflating it.
- 37:17So I've initially put it
- 37:19on and fitted it, drove it,
- 37:21took it off.
- 37:23So I've had it on and off three times,
- 37:26just from trying it.
- 37:27And I took it off for a bit
- 37:29because I didn't have any travels.
- 37:31You do lose, obviously,
- 37:33the rear view out of the back
- 37:36of the Gladiator, the glass.
- 37:38And it is because of the lack of length
- 37:41and that of the Gladiator or
- 37:43the length of the Theracamper,
- 37:45your tailgate's down.
- 37:46So if you rely on a backup camera,
- 37:48which in my opinion, you shouldn't do,
- 37:53it's a bit long.
- 37:54So you've just got to
- 37:54pay a little more attention
- 37:55when you're pulling
- 37:56into a tight parking lot.
- 37:57And I back in a lot more places
- 38:00because you can throw
- 38:01your head out the back window
- 38:02and hug the line and back in.
- 38:04So just be aware of
- 38:06what's behind the Gladiator.
- 38:08And it's really no issue.
- 38:09But again, you're not
- 38:10going through the McDonald's.
- 38:10So my question about the air
- 38:12pump was that I was thinking
- 38:14that you might invest in a
- 38:16100% duty cycle air pump,
- 38:18but do you think that
- 38:19this air pump is adequate
- 38:21for just every day, I
- 38:23mean, weekend camping
- 38:25where you shouldn't
- 38:26have to worry about it.
- 38:27You mentioned the hand pump.
- 38:29I can imagine that would
- 38:30take a little while longer,
- 38:31but is there any
- 38:33reason to get a better pump?
- 38:35No, not in my experience, no.
- 38:37Though the pump--
- 38:38But you could have a pump for your tires
- 38:41and probably use that, right?
- 38:42So I mean, if you had a VIAIR system or
- 38:45something like that,
- 38:45you could use that to air up.
- 38:48I don't know because the opening,
- 38:51and if anybody's listening that has a
- 38:53standup paddle board,
- 38:54I would say it's probably
- 38:55half inch round with a locking.
- 38:57Oh really?
- 38:57Yeah, so you--
- 38:58So it's not a standard tire fitting.
- 39:01No, no, it is not.
- 39:03And then again, I
- 39:04learned the hard way of trying
- 39:05to inflate it to 15
- 39:07PSI took a lot of time,
- 39:08but it gets to five,
- 39:09six PSI very quickly.
- 39:12So the electric pump that comes with it,
- 39:14I've been very impressed with.
- 39:15And then I've used the hand pump as well.
- 39:19And when you're not trying to go much
- 39:21above five or six PSI,
- 39:23it gets there really quick.
- 39:26And I carry the pumps
- 39:29with me just in case,
- 39:31but the electric pump has a
- 39:33cigarette lighter adapter,
- 39:34and then it also has USB A connector.
- 39:37And I just carry it with me.
- 39:39I leave it on the floor of the gladiator.
- 39:40I have USB-A and USB-C ports in the back.
- 39:43I just plug it in.
- 39:44So it's always charged.
- 39:45It's always with me
- 39:47and you're good to go.
- 39:48So now the pumps, I mean it,
- 39:50again, I mentioned it's stand up
- 39:52paddleboard material
- 39:53so that the pump that comes with it
- 39:55or the pumps that come
- 39:56with it have been around
- 39:57a lot longer than their camper.
- 40:00But yeah, I don't.
- 40:01Oh, okay. That's interesting.
- 40:02Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 40:04And it's something I
- 40:05recall Parr mentioned
- 40:07when you interviewed him
- 40:07is that most paddleboards
- 40:09these days are inflatable,
- 40:11stand up paddleboards.
- 40:12And during COVID, going back many years,
- 40:15I got a couple of cheap
- 40:17plastic kayaks for my son and I,
- 40:19we're doing some fishing
- 40:20and just doing some different stuff.
- 40:22And that's when I saw these people
- 40:23would basically take a backpack out of
- 40:25the trunk of the car
- 40:26and five minutes later,
- 40:28they'd have this paddleboard
- 40:29and they'd be paddling
- 40:30around in the lake or the pond.
- 40:33So 200 years ago, you and
- 40:35your son would have been burned
- 40:36at the stake for being witches,
- 40:38carrying a boat or two
- 40:39boats around with you.
- 40:41Yes.
- 40:42So let me ask you this.
- 40:44And this is also a common
- 40:45question that people have
- 40:47about inflatable things.
- 40:48And if they haven't had
- 40:49the paddleboard thing,
- 40:50they probably don't know that.
- 40:51I think the paddleboards
- 40:52are made very, very well
- 40:54and don't have issues with leaks.
- 40:57But I could see that
- 40:58somebody would be concerned
- 40:59about leaks on the Thar camper.
- 41:02You've been running this since June
- 41:04or using it since June.
- 41:06Have you had any leaks?
- 41:07And if so, what'd you do?
- 41:09Yeah, I did find a, I
- 41:11was having a real slow leak
- 41:12and I was just getting
- 41:13some feedback from Parr.
- 41:15And I just found an
- 41:16abrasion on the side under the bed.
- 41:19I don't know what it is from,
- 41:21but it does come with
- 41:22a patch kit as well.
- 41:23Three tubes of glue, plenty of patch.
- 41:25And I just was able to patch that.
- 41:27So back in action.
- 41:29And again, it is inflatable.
- 41:31Some folks will say, I mean,
- 41:32you could take something off the road.
- 41:33I mean, people get flat tires every day,
- 41:36but it was in the
- 41:38lower portion in the bed.
- 41:39I did have it out at Holly Oaks,
- 41:42one of my initial trials
- 41:43and drove down some trails and scraped
- 41:45some trees, no issue.
- 41:47But no, they came with
- 41:48the included patch kit
- 41:50and that took about 15 minutes.
- 41:52And most of that was
- 41:53waiting for that to cure
- 41:55and it's back in action.
- 41:57So it does come with a patch kit.
- 41:59I mean, that is certainly a possibility
- 42:02versus a composite or
- 42:04fiberglass or whatever,
- 42:06a 10 or $15,000 camper is made out of.
- 42:10But I mean, but you
- 42:11gotta think about it though.
- 42:12Keep saying stand up paddle board.
- 42:14Also there's ribs, which rib
- 42:17boat was rigid, inflatable.
- 42:20You see them certainly in
- 42:22the armed forces uses them,
- 42:23the Coast Guard.
- 42:24I mean, I live in
- 42:25Michigan and the Great Lakes.
- 42:26We see them, the Coast Guard uses them,
- 42:28but it's basically an inflatable surround
- 42:31of a rigid floor for a speed boat.
- 42:35And it's the same material that their
- 42:37camper is made out of.
- 42:39So no concern with
- 42:42that going down the road
- 42:43or going down the trail.
- 42:45So you mentioned off-road.
- 42:46This probably is not
- 42:47something you'd want to stay inflated
- 42:50if you were taking
- 42:51your Gladiator off-road.
- 42:54No, and then that's not
- 42:57anything against their camper.
- 42:58Again, with the Gladiator,
- 43:00and if you look on theircamper.com,
- 43:01you'll see other trucks,
- 43:03the tailgate most likely,
- 43:05depending on bed size
- 43:06is gonna be flat or down.
- 43:08And the Gladiator is,
- 43:09as you know very well,
- 43:12the drawback and
- 43:12people say it's too long.
- 43:14It is a long vehicle.
- 43:15You're gonna scrape the tail of it.
- 43:18And I know you, I think you
- 43:19recently got another product
- 43:21to protect your hitch, your hitch there.
- 43:24So yeah, that would
- 43:26be a drawback off-road.
- 43:28I did post a short
- 43:29Instagram video at Mount Magna,
- 43:32at Holly Oaks, going up that.
- 43:35Went down a couple of hills.
- 43:36I don't know that
- 43:37there's any content about that.
- 43:39That'd be my biggest concern.
- 43:40Secondarily, it is quite large.
- 43:42It does look a little funny.
- 43:47It's huge compared to the Gladiator.
- 43:49I mean, it was built
- 43:50for a full-size pickup,
- 43:52but it does work for the Gladiator.
- 43:54But yeah, I mean, but it's nice
- 43:56that you have the same area,
- 43:58whether you have a mid-size
- 43:59truck or a full-size truck.
- 44:01So I would assume that it
- 44:03takes less than 15 minutes
- 44:05to deflate it.
- 44:06So if you were going to EJS,
- 44:10and you probably could
- 44:10wheel EJS with it inflating,
- 44:12because there's not a
- 44:13lot of tight spots at EJS.
- 44:16But let's say you go to EJS,
- 44:18and you have your
- 44:19camper right there with you.
- 44:21It's only 180 pounds.
- 44:22So you get there, maybe
- 44:24you get there in the evening,
- 44:26and the camper is already set up.
- 44:28You get in there, you're gonna sleep.
- 44:30Next morning, you get up, you deflate it,
- 44:32and then you just have to put something,
- 44:34some mechanism in
- 44:36there to keep it tied down.
- 44:38Like if you were off-road and
- 44:39you got to bounce it around,
- 44:40you had to go pick up
- 44:41your camper off the trail.
- 44:43But it fits completely in the
- 44:45bed of the Gladiator, right?
- 44:46I mean, what is deflated?
- 44:49I would say no, not in the Gladiator.
- 44:52Just because the Gladiator is
- 44:54obviously a smaller pickup bed
- 44:55than an F-150 or a
- 44:57Silverado or other full-size.
- 44:59I believe it would be, it
- 45:01would look like a mushroom.
- 45:03But what I was going to do
- 45:06before I had to leave my
- 45:08Gladiator with the dealer
- 45:09for some warranty work for three weeks
- 45:10is just simply remove it.
- 45:12It's, like I said, 15
- 45:13minutes to inflate it,
- 45:14a half hour total to get it in.
- 45:16So you would just leave it at camp?
- 45:18Yes, leave it at camp.
- 45:21And to remove it and install it.
- 45:24Again, I've done it a few times.
- 45:26Like I said, going down the road,
- 45:28all the chambers are at five PSI.
- 45:30You wanna give it a little structure.
- 45:32You don't want it to be too rigid,
- 45:33like I did the first time at 15 PSI.
- 45:36But you inflate the sides, you get it,
- 45:39basically the shape of it.
- 45:41You take the roof to five PSI,
- 45:43the front wall that goes
- 45:44over the cab to five PSI,
- 45:45the rear wall and door to five PSI,
- 45:48and it slides right in and out.
- 45:49So what I would like to
- 45:51do, and it's my intention,
- 45:53and life got in the
- 45:54way the past few years
- 45:55is to get to EJS, use
- 45:57it to go cross country,
- 45:59because it's about 20-ish
- 46:00hour ride for me, a little more.
- 46:02And then if necessary at EJS,
- 46:05just remove it when you go to the trail.
- 46:07It probably take five or 10 minutes,
- 46:09and then put your
- 46:10cooler, your camp gear in it,
- 46:13then just leave it there at camp.
- 46:15Yeah, you could strap it down.
- 46:16I mean, it does get quite windy
- 46:18at Moab from time to time.
- 46:21It'd be a shame if it was a
- 46:222,000 foot down off the mesa,
- 46:26and try to figure out how to get to it.
- 46:28Yeah, I'm sure it
- 46:29would survive just fine.
- 46:31Well, anyway, that's some
- 46:32interesting information.
- 46:33I wanted to go over this
- 46:34because it's a cool concept.
- 46:38I have a lot of questions
- 46:39about it, and you've used it,
- 46:41and I'm sure some of
- 46:42our viewers and listeners
- 46:45were curious as well.
- 46:46And we'll have more
- 46:47information on it in the future,
- 46:49but you just go over to thearcamper.com
- 46:52and check it out yourself.
- 46:54If whatever you call,
- 46:55if you call over there
- 46:56or contact somebody over there,
- 46:57make sure you tell
- 46:59them you heard about it
- 47:00on the Jeep Talk Show.
- 47:01All right, Chris, I
- 47:02wanted to go over a few things,
- 47:04that a few new things that
- 47:06we're doing on the Jeep Talk Show.
- 47:08I think first and foremost,
- 47:11the newest thing is movie night.
- 47:14So I'm sure that you guys
- 47:17have seen Mystery Science Theater 3000,
- 47:20where they would have a sci-fi show
- 47:22and a group of three individuals
- 47:25would be making comments on the show.
- 47:27It's pretty funny and
- 47:28it was fun to watch.
- 47:30I'm sure you've gone to see
- 47:32a movie with a friend or two,
- 47:34and they always want the
- 47:36smart ass comment guy to go,
- 47:40or a woman, I think
- 47:41it's more guys than women.
- 47:42They want the smart ass to go
- 47:45so that they can hear funny things
- 47:47being said during the movie.
- 47:49Well, that's kind of what our Jeep Talk
- 47:50Show movie night is.
- 47:53We have the round table,
- 47:54which you're probably
- 47:55aware of every Tuesday.
- 47:57The round table itself
- 47:58starts at 8 p.m. Central time,
- 48:00but the Zoom room,
- 48:03which we use to get together
- 48:04for the round table,
- 48:06starts up usually before,
- 48:08but at least by 7.30.
- 48:107.30 p.m. Central time,
- 48:12we are now running a movie,
- 48:14and we're picking YouTube
- 48:16videos that are about Jeeps.
- 48:19And what you do is you
- 48:20join the round table,
- 48:22the Zoom meeting, and then
- 48:23you go to jeeptalkshow.com,
- 48:25slash watch along, like in a browser,
- 48:28something different than Zoom.
- 48:29You leave the Zoom thing running,
- 48:31and then you go to the browser,
- 48:33and the host me presses play,
- 48:38and the video starts playing,
- 48:40and you see that same video that
- 48:42everybody else is watching.
- 48:44So it's not like, it's
- 48:46not that thing where you go,
- 48:47"Okay, everybody get
- 48:48ready, press play now."
- 48:51And somebody says,
- 48:52"Oh, I missed the button."
- 48:54And we do it again, you know,
- 48:55synchronize your
- 48:55watches like in World War II.
- 48:57So this is pretty cool
- 48:58because you see the same thing
- 49:00everybody else is watching.
- 49:02And keep in mind,
- 49:04there's no copyright here
- 49:05because it's playing
- 49:06directly to your computer,
- 49:08your phone, from YouTube.
- 49:10So it's individual streams from YouTube
- 49:13to everybody that's in the movie night.
- 49:16So that also means that
- 49:18if you wanted to watch
- 49:20you can just go after
- 49:22the movie night's over,
- 49:25you can go to
- 49:26jeeptalkshow.com, slash watch along,
- 49:28and see past movies,
- 49:31and hear the comments
- 49:33that we're all making
- 49:34during the movie.
- 49:36And there is individual
- 49:38volume for the movie aspect of it,
- 49:41or the Zoom room people aspect of it.
- 49:43So you can turn it up on the movie,
- 49:45turn it down on the movie,
- 49:46turn it up on the Zoom people,
- 49:48turn it down on the Zoom people.
- 49:50I think I've been really, really excited
- 49:52about how well this is working out.
- 49:54And Chris, I don't think
- 49:55I've mentioned this to anybody.
- 49:57I'm thinking that we might get guests on
- 50:00to join the round table
- 50:02whose video we're playing.
- 50:04And the- Great idea.
- 50:05Yeah, the first one
- 50:06comes to mind is Marvin
- 50:08for 24 hours, Helen back.
- 50:12He has some really cool
- 50:14videos that he puts up.
- 50:16We know Marvin, he's been
- 50:17on the show a few times.
- 50:18I interviewed him out at EJS in 2025.
- 50:22And I think it'd be fun to have Marvin on
- 50:25and hear some of the
- 50:26stuff from the background,
- 50:28the things that is not in the video.
- 50:31You know, director's
- 50:32cut type of perspective.
- 50:35Yeah, exactly.
- 50:36And so, and that's not just them.
- 50:39And keep in mind that when we have your
- 50:42video on movie night,
- 50:44however many people are
- 50:45watching it along at that time,
- 50:48I mean, it could be 10
- 50:49people, it could be 20,
- 50:50it could be a hundred.
- 50:51That's how many videos, I mean,
- 50:53that's how many downloads or views
- 50:55that you're getting
- 50:55on that YouTube video.
- 50:57So this is a great way for
- 50:59you to promote your video
- 51:01and get people watching it.
- 51:02I think it's gonna build over time
- 51:04because it's a lot of fun.
- 51:05Everybody's having a
- 51:06lot of fun watching it.
- 51:08And we watched a 1958 abandoned Jeep
- 51:13that was resurrected
- 51:15on this past Tuesday.
- 51:17And it got to be 8 p.m.
- 51:19The video was still going.
- 51:20And I said, "Do you guys
- 51:22want me to stop the movie?"
- 51:23And you can just use
- 51:24the round table as usual.
- 51:26And it says, I think it
- 51:27was Steve O that says,
- 51:28"No, I'm invested now.
- 51:29I wanna see what happens."
- 51:31(laughs)
- 51:32Staying up late, I'm gonna
- 51:33go and work early tomorrow.
- 51:34Going to work late,
- 51:35because I gotta see the whole thing.
- 51:37Well, we were waiting to
- 51:38see him start this thing.
- 51:39And there was no way in
- 51:40(beep)
- 51:41I mean, for example, one of
- 51:43the cylinders was kind of rusty.
- 51:45He honed it without
- 51:46taking the piston or rings out.
- 51:50So, and the
- 51:51(beep)
- 51:52thing started.
- 51:52But he was trying to
- 51:53start it with the old piston.
- 51:55I mean, with the old spark plugs.
- 51:57Wow.
- 51:58He finally invested in new spark plugs.
- 52:01He got one of those,
- 52:02what do you call those?
- 52:03Insect spray pumps,
- 52:05you know, the container.
- 52:06It has the pump thing,
- 52:07so you build up pressure.
- 52:09So you can spray them.
- 52:10Oh yeah, the lawn sprayer.
- 52:12Yeah, they spray the...
- 52:13You don't have to just use insect poison,
- 52:15but that's the way I look at it.
- 52:17So he put gas in that.
- 52:18So he put gas in that, pumped it up,
- 52:21and hooked it into the
- 52:22fuel line of the carburetor,
- 52:24because the fuel tank had a hole in it.
- 52:27He's driving, he got it started,
- 52:29and he's driving around with this.
- 52:31Wow.
- 52:32It was really, really cool.
- 52:34So we had a lot of fun.
- 52:35And I don't think
- 52:36anybody saw that twist coming.
- 52:39All right, so another thing that we have
- 52:42is JTS Flix.
- 52:45So we have a, this is website,
- 52:48it's not a program that you have to
- 52:50download and install.
- 52:51You just go to, and
- 52:53this is a bit confusing,
- 52:54I apologize for this,
- 52:55but if you go to
- 52:56jeeptalkshow.com slash watch,
- 52:59different from watch along,
- 53:01because that's the movie thing,
- 53:02jeeptalkshow.com slash watch,
- 53:05you get a Netflix style interface
- 53:07of all the Jeep Talk
- 53:09Show videos that we have up.
- 53:12Answer a few
- 53:13questions about what you like,
- 53:14what you dislike,
- 53:15about what you wanna see,
- 53:16what you don't wanna see,
- 53:17and it will present it in the screen.
- 53:19Like I said, it's Netflix,
- 53:21but it's all the Jeep Talk Show videos.
- 53:24So you can just go there.
- 53:26And I think the main
- 53:27advantage to the JTS Flix thing
- 53:29is it's really configured for work.
- 53:32So if you're in a job
- 53:34where you can watch videos,
- 53:37you can do JTS Flix,
- 53:40and whenever the video
- 53:41you start, it's done,
- 53:43it automatically starts another one.
- 53:46Not the same one, but another one.
- 53:48So if you're sitting in the
- 53:49office eight, nine hours a day,
- 53:51you can watch these videos.
- 53:53You can make it a picture in
- 53:54a picture that stays on top,
- 53:55and you can move it around
- 53:57to your screen or screens,
- 53:58wherever you wanna put it.
- 53:59So now you're listening,
- 54:01and maybe you're glancing up at the video
- 54:02whenever you want to see what's going on.
- 54:04I think it's amazing.
- 54:07And I'm throwing out these links to you.
- 54:09If you just go to jeeptalkshow.com,
- 54:12the menu at the top of the page,
- 54:14you'll see the watch and the movie night,
- 54:18and all those things are right there.
- 54:20So Chris, we're doing things.
- 54:23We're making
- 54:23modifications to the Jeep Talk Show,
- 54:25so we can make it easier for you.
- 54:28It's kind of like the R Camper.
- 54:29You have a convenience thing
- 54:31of having the camper right there.
- 54:32You just get in, get out.
- 54:34We want the same thing
- 54:35for the Jeep Talk Show.
- 54:35We wanna make it easy
- 54:36for you to review content,
- 54:39listen to it, and we
- 54:40haven't forgotten about you guys
- 54:42that listen to the show
- 54:43because the vast majority
- 54:45of our, I'll say viewers, listeners,
- 54:48are listening to the show through the
- 54:51various podcast means.
- 54:53Of course, if you go, yeah, well, duh,
- 54:55that's how I listen to the show.
- 54:57We're on YouTube as well.
- 54:59So you can see the video side of things
- 55:02for these episodes as
- 55:04well, if you care to do that.
- 55:05Of course, the JTS
- 55:07Flix is all audio video.
- 55:09You don't have to watch the video.
- 55:11It's there in case you wanna see it.
- 55:13Also to Spotify, I think
- 55:14you're still doing on Spotify.
- 55:16You can listen on the
- 55:17Spotify on your phone, most likely,
- 55:19within the app, and you can seamlessly,
- 55:21which is very
- 55:22impressive that Spotify does,
- 55:24move between audio and video.
- 55:26So maybe you're, don't do
- 55:27it while you're driving,
- 55:28but maybe you've got the auto feed and
- 55:29you're mowing the lawn
- 55:31or taking a run or
- 55:32whatever, riding the bike
- 55:34and you hear something
- 55:35and you hear something
- 55:36that's referenced, you wanna see it.
- 55:37You can, without
- 55:38missing a beat in the audio,
- 55:40turn your phone sideways.
- 55:41I haven't done in a while,
- 55:42but then you get the video right there
- 55:45and then you can watch the few minutes
- 55:47and maybe you gotta get back to your run,
- 55:48get back to mowing the lawn,
- 55:49and you can turn the audio,
- 55:50put it back in your pocket.
- 55:51So check out the Spotify app.
- 55:53That's what I listen to the show on.
- 55:54That's why I like the
- 55:55Spotify app and it's free.
- 55:58Jeep Talk Show is always free.
- 56:01So check out Spotify as
- 56:03well as Apple Podcasts
- 56:04I heard a great saying
- 56:05anywhere you find your finer podcast.
- 56:08So anywhere you find finer podcasts,
- 56:10you'll find the Jeep Talk Show.
- 56:12Yeah, very good.
- 56:14Well, that's it for the evening.
- 56:16Chris, was there anything
- 56:17that you wanted to throw in
- 56:18before we wrap up?
- 56:20No, thanks.
- 56:20Great to be on with you again.
- 56:22And yeah, come out to
- 56:23Bowling Green 4x4 Fest
- 56:25and come check it out.
- 56:28All right, guys, thanks a lot.
- 56:29Remember to check us out at
- 56:31jeeptalkshow.com slash contact
- 56:34to see all the ways
- 56:35that you can contact us.
- 56:37You can leave us a video voicemail.
- 56:39That's there on the contact page.
- 56:41We love those.
- 56:42Those are fun.
- 56:43That's where you can
- 56:44call in and see yourself
- 56:46on an episode of the Jeep Talk Show.
- 56:49And call in about anything you like.
- 56:51Funny is better.
- 56:54So until next week, have a great week
- 56:57and have fun in your Jeep.
- 56:59You're my friend.
- 57:00You're my new friend.
- 57:01(laughing)
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