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One Piece, 504 & 505 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me covering one piece episodes
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five oh four and five oh five to live up to the promise departures of
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their own and I want to see them Lufy's mournful cry. In these chapters,
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we are still getting a little bit of flashback, but for the most
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part, it seems like we're moving back into the present and it's a lot
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more agonizing after the flashbacks, to be honest. Welcome to spoil Me,
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Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much to
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Florian for commissioning this episode. This time it really is Florian, not Michael,
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So thank you Florian. Yeah. I think that I was a little
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taken aback actually after there being so much in the flashbacks, and I think
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just last episode I was saying like that I had expected the flashbacks to be
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shorter, for that to take up less time, and that there had been
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way more of a story there than I'd been expecting. In a similar vein,
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once we had like really gotten into it, I thought that would continue
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and was not ready for us to jump back into the present at this point.
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So it's kind of funny. I feel like I keep getting sort of
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Blindsided's too strong a word, but I just keep getting like the unexpected surprise.
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So yeah, let's let's start with five oh four to live up to
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the promise, because it is. This one is a really surprisingly like moving
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one. We start off with Ace as usual, just with his fucking you
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guys. He is so angry all the time. I don't know why he
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has to have this attitude, but lord almighty, he really does. And
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oh my god, you guys, I'm so sorry. Okay, full disclosure,
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y'all. You know how I put the episode on in the background so
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that I can refer to it when I'm recording. I don't know how I
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miss this, because like I didn't take my phone out while I was recording
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or while I was watching this episode. The only thing that I was doing
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was like petting Pippin who was sitting with me. And I don't know how
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I missed the fact that there's like a tiny Zoro here doing weightlifting. And
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I had a moment while I was recording just now where I saw this and
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I thought I had started the wrong episode because I completely missed it, and
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the boys who were talking about I bet he needs the biggest ship to hold
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his giant head. They're talking about Eva, you know, out on the
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ship with Dragon. I don't know how the fuck I missed the Zoro was
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here as a little kid. Is Zorro going to turn out to actually be
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like related to Louvi? Like? What is going on with Dragon being here?
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Where Zoro is? Uh? He? There's like this moment where on
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the ship Zoro or not Zoro? Sorry? Dragon is talking to Eva and
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just says sorry, and Eva says, goodness, is that someone get help?
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This doesn't look good. Let's prepare treatment, Roger and I don't know
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what they're referring to because Dragon doesn't look injured to me, and I don't
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know the fact that there's saying treatment makes me think like he contracted some sort
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of disease. I don't know. But whatever it was that he was doing,
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he went without Eva, who is resentful. And I love the fact
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that when Eva says, why didn't you take me? And Dragon replies because
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you would attract too much attention. Obviously, Eva's internal dialogue is could it
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be that I'm too fabulous? Which is honestly what I need to tell myself
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every time, like I am just too much for something. It's just I'm
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simply too fabulous. I'm so sorry. So yeah, this moment with Zorro,
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Why is Dragon here? And with Zorro on the same island they like
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they've left where Ace and Loofy were already right, this isn't the same place.
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I don't even know what to think here. How did I miss that?
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You guys? I'm so sorry. If you're listening like Jesus Christ,
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Natasha, apologies, I really was paying attention. I swear, I don't
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know how I missed it. I must have just been too enraptured in Pippins's
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adorable face, and I won't apologize for that. So we go from that
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little interlude back to Gray Terminal, and it's really funny, honestly to me,
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you guys, I couldn't help but laugh at this, because despite the
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burning of Gray Terminal being truly awful, I'm not trying to dismiss that at
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all. It was unconscionable. Everybody is right to be outraged. However,
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despite that, they very quickly have just a new influx of trash and a
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new influx of scavengers. So really, their whole goal here of getting rid
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of all of them just goes to shit like right away, and I just
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think that's very very funny. I mean, I'm sorry that is like all
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of that and all of the ill will that you brought upon yourselves and for
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what reason, what did you actually accomplish? Oh, there is something so
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embarrassing about that. So yeah, things are kind of back to normal,
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and we also see Loofy and Ace fighting, and there is this moment here,
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you guys, I have been an I'm kind of loath to take this
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back, but the scene is about Loofy and Ace coping with the fact that
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Sabo is gone, and the two of them, like Ace is just straight
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talking about talking as if Sabo is standing right there, and when he does,
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Loofy sort of picks up and does the same thing, and it's like,
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yeah, tell him. And then they both realize that what they're talking
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to is just like a lump of stone that happens to be around the right
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height, and that they're so used to Sabo being there out of the corner
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of their eye that they took it for granted it was him and talked to
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it. And they're brought up short realizing, you know, of course,
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that that is not a person. And I was so how to say this.
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I can't help but wonder how real this is? Like how much?
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How is it true that Sabo is really dead? Because the more I think
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about it, he was so close to shore that if he had died,
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or if he had if he hadn't died and were floating in the water,
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he would be able to swim to shore, and he the place he would
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naturally swim would be the island. They're right there. The only alternative that
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I could see is that he somehow got scooped up by the marines from the
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wreckage of his ship. And I don't I don't think if he were like
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a if he were actually a pirate, if they saw him that way,
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which they had to have done to fire on him the way that they did,
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I don't know that they would keep him prisoner or not, you know
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what I'm saying. And so now I'm starting to wonder if it really is
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that Sabo is dead. I just took it for granted, I'll be totally
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honest with you guys, that he was going to turn up eventually and be
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fine, and that it would be a very unexpected thing, but that he
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had managed to make his way in the world by himself, and I just
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the more that this sort of goes on the way that it does, the
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less certain I become that's how it's going to go. I don't know.
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I don't know whether I want for him to for that death to have been
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real or not, because you guys know that, like I appreciate there being
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genuine stakes, I think that I like Sabo enough that I would really prefer
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he weren't dead. So I'm really torn on this one, y'all. But
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I'm curious if anybody else out there when listening had the same reaction that I
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did, where you just assumed, of course he's still alive and he's still
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out there, because I just feel like, due to the track record of
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this show really not killing people off, usually if there's no body, there's
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no death. I absolutely took it for granted that he was still alive.
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But one of the when I say that, like, people don't die in
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this show for the most part, the only exceptions to that have been in
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flashbacks, and this has been a flashback, So maybe he is gone,
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which makes the whole thing like much sadder. So anyway, the two of
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them sort of get into an argument Lufy and Ace because they are just butting
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heads without the sort of middling influence of Sabo, who managed to be the
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peacekeeper a lot of the time. Lufy says something about how Sabo was way
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nicer than you, which Ace takes as are you saying I should have been
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the one who died, which, like, granted is not what Lufy said,
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but I can understand how he takes it to that place right away.
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And Lufy is like, well, I didn't say anything like that. I'm
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just saying that you can just like not be as mean to me, and
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Ace is just like, yeah, whatever, And the next scene is the
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two of them declaring separate kingdoms to Dedan with their little like it's They've got
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these stalls built in the yard with signs that look almost like a weird lemonade
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stand kind of vibe, and they are ignoring one another very studiously, to
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the point that in the next scene, when Lufy is about to fight a
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bear and he asks for Ace's help, Ace just straight up says, what
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the mighty king Loofy needs help and doesn't lift a finger. And then when
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Lufy attempts to fight this bear, and gets walloped with those claws. Ace
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is fucking surprised. I get it, he's a child, but the fact
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that he's like, oh my god, he told you that bear was like
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twenty five times his size, Sir, what does the matter with you?
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You have got to get over this anger. You've got to set it aside.
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And eventually he clearly does, but it's just like really difficult to watch
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in the moment. So yeah, he brings Lufy back to the cabin to
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Magra is the name of the guy with the mohawk. I will never remember
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his name. But he takes care of Lufy and says something like if that
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cut had been any deeper, he would probably have died on the spot.
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And Ace is flipping out, you know, he's sobbing, crying, and
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he says, it's all my fault. I knew better. Even if you're
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a captain, fighting alone doesn't make you any stronger. I'm still no good
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I'm still not good enough. I'm so weak. And this is what Lufy
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is saying. Like later in the present when we return to him, he
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is just like, I just I'm still so weak. So I think this
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moment is sort of the unifying moment for the two of them, the fact
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that they manage to get through this together, that Ace left him by himself
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fucked up, acknowledges that he fucked up and is prepared to try and work
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with Lufy, And I wish I think this is the issue for me when
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I say that, like, we come back to the present a little sooner
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than I had anticipated. I think I was hoping to get a little bit
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more time with the boys, watching them actually working together, because we mostly
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get to see them at odds, butting heads all the time. And then
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Ace has this kind of revelation, and then we jump ahead like five years
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and he is seventeen years old and Loofy is what is he at that point?
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Fourteen? I think, And they are like best pals at that point.
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And I just would have liked a montage or something of Ace actually figuring
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out how to encourage Loofy, how to work with him and develop the rubber
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abilities and make them work for him, rather than jumping immediately from him having
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a sort of breakdown to the two of them getting along amazingly and not having
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seen anything in between. I just I think that I was so taken aback
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at how angry Ace was throughout all of these flashbacks that I didn't expect we
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would spend so little time with Ace when he had begun to come to terms
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with his anger and direct it in a more oh it's the word, a
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productive place. I guess like I thought that I would get the reward of
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seeing the two of them working well together because I had suffered through aces bouts
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of anger and taking it out on Lufy. And I just feel like I
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didn't get the reward I wanted. I wanted to see the way that they
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eventually bonded and worked together over this I don't know. And it's the way
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that this eventually goes, So like I'm jumping back into the flashback. Machino
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has come to visit Ace, and she says, you want to know how
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to properly say thank you? And what's this about paying respects? And he
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says, as a pirate and is Lufy's big brother, I need to pay
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my respects to this Shanks guy. Lufy says, he owes the man his
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life, so it's the least I can do. This is like the closest
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that we get to the two of them working together amiably. Is this weird
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like learning to respect elders and be polite thing, And it's just such a
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departure from what their priorities had been that I feel like that's why it felt
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unsatisfying to me. But I suppose you could count this as them showing the
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two of them working together. I don't know, but Machino is looking at
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Ace, and when when he says that he wants to pay Shanks back,
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she gets a sort of expression and looks at him and then tilts her head
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and puts it on her hand. And I couldn't tell what I was supposed
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to read from that motion. I feel like it looks almost as like if
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he weren't a literal child, I think I would have taken this as her
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being like, oh, you're so dreamy, a sort of flirty kind of
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vibe. But I don't think that's it. So the way I'm taking it
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instead is sort of, oh my god, you're growing up. You're interested
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in like showing gratitude and what progress for you, You know what I'm saying.
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I don't know that that's what is supposed to be the takeaway here,
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So I'm really curious anybody listening if you feel like chiming in on the discord.
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Just it's a small moment, but I just was sort of curious if
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there was something that I was missing or is it the fact that he says
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that he's going to thank Shanks and is she sort of like hot for Shanks
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and the mention of him kind of makes her go huh, you know,
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like I really wasn't sure the interpretation of that little moment, and it's not
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important, it's just my curiosity. So anyway, uh, Machino winds up
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being the one that's sort of instructing them on how to do this for starters
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after a meal, and we get to see the two of them dine and
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dash again in like Upper the Uptown and then as they're dining and dashing,
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loofy and a say, oh god, hold on, we've got to pay
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our respects. They stop running from the chef and just bow and say thank
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you for the meal, sir, keep your thanks. Are you Brad's gonna
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pay me or what? And that is what it like cuts, It just
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immediately cuts from there. That shit killed me, you guys. The fact
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that they thank this guy, I kind of wanted him to be like,
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oh, that's kind of adorable, but I don't blame him as a business
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person. Like so, okay, you know what, guys, I forgot
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about the part where they fight the bear together. I'm seeing that now,
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So I've got to give credit for this because I was feeling like, come
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on, I want more of this, but I'm lying. We get them
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fighting some things, and it's not exactly what I was imagining was less than
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just fighting side by side and more Ace gassing Loofy up and learning how to
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encourage him in a more like guidance older brothery type of way. But I
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get what this is that this is supposed to sort of be that for the
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two of them. So I still maintain that I would have liked to see
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that simply because so little positive reinforcement has come off of Ace toward Loofy.
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But I feel like there was an effort made at least this like seeing you,
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guys when fucking Garb shows up and just like beats the shit out of
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them. Apparently. I know that this is part of the way media worked
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with like in the in the nineties early two thousands, especially with cartoons,
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and probably it's also like a cultural thing as well. But I have got
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to say out loud how troubling it is for me that all of the adults
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that care about kids in this series, like the men at least, tend
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to beat the shit out of those kids. Like I just feel like I
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understand that it's meant to be. They're tough love and getting them ready for
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the real but it's just it's so fucked up, and the fact that it's
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just been taken for granted, like I can't help but see as just really
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disturbing, you know. And this scene where he just shows up and like
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punches the hell out of them, in the context of knowing what happens later
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with Ace, and the fact that, like Garp doesn't do everything he could
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to save Ace, I can't help but feel a bit of a way about
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it, you know. So anyway, this is when we jump forward to
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in time and we have Ace getting into his little like skiff and saying goodbye
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to everybody. And I noted the fact that, like standing on the land,
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we don't see to Don and I was sort of like, where is
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she? Why didn't she come? And it turns out that she like stayed
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at the house and didn't want to go because I guess she was feeling like
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too intensely and didn't want to face it. And we have her smoking and
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just thinking back to when she was brought the baby. Ace the baby and
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her men come in and are like, believe it or not, he's gone,
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and she says, well, that's one less bratt to worry about,
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though I am sure Garb will give me hell for it. And one of
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them says, I've got a message for you from him, and she says,
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why should I carry? Probably just wants to tell me my feet smell
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or something. He said, thank you for taking care of me, and
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she just starts sobbing crying. I just I really liked this to don is
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a really really fun character. Like she's not a good caretaker. I would
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not say that, but I enjoy that she does her best. I really
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feel like she does her best, you know. So this is when we
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go to Loofy, who is practicing by himself at this point with the gum
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gum pistol, and it's really fun to watch him like finally beginning to get
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this down. I really wasn't ready for how satisfying it was going to feel
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to see him manage to finally nail this and Sabo is standing there like smiling
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at him, and I think the fact that Sabo keeps turning up as a
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sort of forced ghost, as if in Lufy's mind is what's making me think
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Sabo's genuinely dead. Like if he weren't gone, the two of them would
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be like imagine, like I feel like they'd be like what would Sabo say?
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But the show wouldn't depict him visually as a ghost the way that they
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are, and it just really out. I think he really is gone and
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I just wanted him to be around. Still sucks. So then we have
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Lufy getting the newspaper where Ace is mentioned and he's got a ship and crew
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and everything, and he says, oh, I'm so jealous, but he
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starts laughing and says I'm gonna do even better. And I just love seeing
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Lufy being happy for him. So then it says three years later, Loofy
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seventeen years old, and he goes up to the house and says, I'm
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leaving. You're not going to see me off, and de Don says,
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use your head. The mayor and Machino wouldn't mind us stopping by. But
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as for everyone else in Windmill Village, we'll probably scare the pants right off
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them. Don't make it awkward, just go already and lufy just for a
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minute. He looks sad, and then he's just like, all right,
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well by you guys, thanks for everything. I'm sure gonna miss you.
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And they all start crying as well, blushing what not. And one last
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thing, didan I still think mountain bandits are super lame, but you guys,
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you're great, And once again she begins sobbing crying. It's not enough
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to ruin my life. Now you've got to break my heart too. You're
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awful. I tell you all that you are good for nothing. Oh you
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guys, it's so good. I love her. She's such a goon.
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So then we get from the narration the edge of the Goa Kingdom. Why
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don't you take my old fishing boat instead, loofy. This thing is gonna
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sink as soon as you get out to sea. It's too small even for
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you. And he says, I want to start small, but I'll get
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a real big one soon, don't worry. And there's a lot of people
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out here cheering him on, a lot of people who are just like rooting
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for him, which I really, really liked, like I didn't expect all
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of these sort of random towns folk around here, you know. And he
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yells about how Sabo is like sort of looking down on him, like that's
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the way he's He's just like, I'm look at me, Sabo, you
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know. And it was really moving moment, unexpectedly, so he goes out
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and he immediately comes face to face with the fucking sea king that had threatened
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him all those years ago when he was with Shanks, and he uses his
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gungum pistol in sincerity for the first time and knocks the sea king out in
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a single punch, and everybody on the shore is just like, holy shit,
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and to Don gets all teary eyed and is just like, I'm so
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proud of him, and uh Loofy is talking to himself about how many people
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he wants for his crew and is thinking about ten, and it's just like,
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all right, let's get going. And that's the end of the episode,
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you guys, except for a brief, brief moment where we go back
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to the present. Lufy's optimism from that day is nowhere in sight, and
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we see him again sobbing, covered in bandages in the midst of this like
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clearing of trees that he's like uprooted and broken. And this is a real
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This one's like fucked up for me. He's sitting in front of uh,
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oh my god, I can't remember his name with the fishman, Oh my
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god, Jimbay Jimbei, and he says me, king of the Pirates,
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What a joke. I cannot tell you, guys, how shook I was
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hearing him say that. This entire city five hundred episodes. Granted I haven't
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watched every single one, but I've watched at least like four hundred and seventy
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five. This kid has been relentless and believing in himself, and then all
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of a sudden he's calling his dream a joke. I mean, shit is
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bad, real bad. Oh. This got me right in the heart,
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y'all, it really did. He says, look at me, I'm useless,
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and as he's saying this, there's like superimposed over his face the footage
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of Ace falling to the ground with a giant hole in his chest. Oh
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my god, it really got to me. I was not prepared, y'all
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for him to like just completely fall apart and to shows such a lack of
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faith in himself after all this time and everything that he has been through,
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and he's just yelling about how weak he is. So I just, you
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know, guys, this it's earned. I'll say that, like him having
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this sort of crisis of faith after every like all after the events of these
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last few episodes, in my opinion, it's exactly the right time for him
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to be feeling this way. I really think that this event was traumatic enough
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and a big enough deal, both to him and to the audience that this
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is when you want to have this sort of like what's it all for?
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Kind of moment from a character like him who has been so single minded and
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assured this whole time. But I just wasn't prepared for how upsetting it was
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going to be to hear those words come out of his mouth. It just
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sounds wrong. You know. He's just been the guy this entire time who
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has believed, and so for him to be not just like having a lack
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of faith, but to be like laughing at himself and not in a good
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way, mocking himself, it just is unfair. And I think we've all
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been here, you know, had moments like this where we've stepped back and
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sort of looked at the place we are in comparison to where we had thought
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we would be, and just have a moment of like, I cannot believe
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I ever thought it was going to be any different than it is right now
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in our darkest moments, when we're just like see, I said everything was
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going to fall apart, and I was fucking right, you know, But
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God, I just really hate this for him, because he earned so much
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more than this from himself, and I wish he was giving himself the credit
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he had built up anyway. All right, So we go to Garp here
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and he's fucking blowing up a bunch of pirate ships that are off the coast
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of this island and evidently just going the whole energy with Garp and the way
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that he is coming at them. As much as I understand that the are
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bad pirates, there's also a big part of me that kind of felt like,
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I, after everything, I don't want to see him blowing up pirates
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because I have feelings about him at this point, and I am pissed.
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So we come into the bar and Dedan is downing like yet another beer,
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and she is putting her glass down and asking for another one, and Machino
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is that her name is like, I think you've had enough, and de
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Done says something like so what. But then it's mentioned that Garp is here
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and she gets up and he comes into town. Everybody is talking to him
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about how like things with the pirates have gotten really bad, and he explains
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that I took out the ones that were coming heading this way, a bunch
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of blowhards, and to top it off, in addition to taking them down,
34:01
I'm also going to give you this because the Navy isn't gonna say it
34:07
out loud, but white Beard was really helping keep things like in check.
34:12
And he points to this huge sign that says security by Vice Admiral Garp,
34:19
and they're like, all right, yeah, that'll keep scare them off for
34:22
sure. I hope that's true. You know, it seems like we're meant
34:27
to believe that these signs do work. For the most part, I feel
34:30
like that sort of thing probably doesn't. But then this guy comes up to
34:35
him and says, there's one more problem. A bunch of Mountain bandits have
34:38
come into the village and taken over Machino's bar, and they refuse to leave.
34:44
And this is when Machino backs out and Da Don comes out, and
34:51
this for me was so satisfying. She says, how dare you show your
34:59
face here after what you've done? And she bashes him in the head with
35:06
her fucking mace and Garp tells his men to back off because of course they
35:14
start to step in to defend him, and he says she's a friend,
35:19
and she says, the hell I am. You were right there on that
35:23
battlefield with those poor boys, and you didn't do a damn thing to help
35:28
them. Why did you have me raise ace? Why did you have me
35:32
take care of them? If this was going to be how it ended?
35:38
And I got to tell you, guys, I fucking loved this. What
35:46
a real one asking the questions that need answers. I am just saying this
35:52
bitch is right, and I need her to say it. I was so
36:00
oh glad that she just decided to fucking get in his face over this,
36:05
because I can't let go of the fact. She even says, a little
36:13
bit later, you stood there and watched him die. You care more about
36:20
your damn job than your family. And then she just starts punching him repeatedly
36:27
in the face, calling him a heartless piece of crab. And that's honestly,
36:31
like, the main takeaway that I also had from that was that he
36:37
was more worried about losing his position with the Marines than he was about the
36:42
life of Ace. And I mean, I can't respect that. I absolutely
36:49
cannot. I don't know. I don't know if there's anything that can retroactively
36:57
be told to me that would change the way I feel about this situation,
37:04
you know what I'm saying, Like, I feel that the point I am
37:07
currently at with the way I feel about Garp and how let down I am,
37:15
I don't feel like there is going to be something that you can like
37:20
retcon where I'm like, all right, well, I guess I understand then,
37:23
And I may be wrong. Somebody, you know, may have come
37:27
up with a thing when I say somebody obviously am talking about ODA. But
37:35
it's just really hard for me to picture there being any sort of circumstance where
37:43
I understand the fact that he like just stayed his hand. There's so many
37:51
things that I imagine that he could say, like, you know, he
37:54
was he was grown, I wasn't meant to fight his battles anymore. He
38:00
wouldn't have wanted me to, Like, there's all kinds of things that you
38:02
could say, but I just won't accept them. I'll be perfectly honest,
38:07
I just don't think that I'm at a point where I would accept them.
38:13
So you know, maybe, uh, I'm underestimating Oda's creative genius and he'll
38:19
come up with something and I'll be like, God, damn it, he
38:21
figured one out. But from where I'm standing right now, I am just
38:24
so irritated with him, and I'm so glad that that Don just fucking calls
38:29
him out, because that was exactly what I was thinking when I saw her
38:35
face and the way she was crying. My exact reaction was like, Yeah,
38:40
I imagine that he like foisted these kids on you. You didn't even
38:45
really want to take them in or deal with them, but you did it
38:47
because you were being blackmailed basically. And then he has the chance to like
38:53
save one of their lives and he just doesn't do it. I would be
38:59
so pied. I just like, and you've grown to like really love them,
39:05
Oh my god, I hated it, And good for her. Eventually
39:10
Machino comes and like stands between the two of them, because to Don is
39:15
not letting up, and Machino says, how do you think he feels he's
39:20
their grandfather? He's suffering too. He was right there and he couldn't do
39:24
a thing, and I was like, couldn't he though, you know,
39:30
my immediate response is like I don't think that's true. And again, to
39:35
Don just says, you're wrong, and I was like, thank you,
39:40
Garp is suffering. No, the only one who's really suffering here is Loofy.
39:50
Damn it. I loved it. Don I love her. I love
39:55
her so much, just like, for the record, you know, I
40:00
enjoyed her a lot to begin with, but these episodes just made me a
40:06
fucking to Don stand for life, just absolutely the only person who has her
40:12
head on straight about this whole thing, you know. And then we have
40:16
Machino's eyes tearing up and her remembering this moment between her Ace and Lufy where
40:24
this is so funny, you guys. Ace is supposed to be thanking her
40:34
for these lessons and what he says, because she says, let's learn some
40:37
manners today, and he says thank you for the lesson, and Mufy's like,
40:42
hey, nice one, and Machino says, well, close says,
40:46
we haven't actually started. You should say thank you in advance, and Lufy
40:52
says, really, that was wrong. It sounded polite to me. That
40:57
may be true, but it's a special situation. Every detail has to be
41:00
perfect. After all. Ace wants to pay respects to a very impressive captain,
41:06
a friend of yours. So Ace, this is so funny, you
41:13
guys, I love this so much. As a pirate and big brother,
41:16
I've got to thank him for saving your life or we're both gonna look bad.
41:21
So she says, let's pretend Shanks is here with you right now.
41:23
What do you say? Hi? I'm Ace? Who the hell are you?
41:31
I know you're pirates, but I don't think you'd be impressed, So
41:36
then fancy meeting you here? She's boo, and then Lufy suggests trash talk,
41:45
Hey, Punk, what's your deal? Boo? Mister, what's your
41:50
deal? Can't he because he didn't and she says boo, and Lufy chimes
41:54
in because he didn't say punk. Oh my god, this was so much
42:00
fun. I really really enjoyed this. So eventually, Ass, I'm gonna
42:09
learn some manners if it kills me. And louviy over here is like totally
42:15
distracted over the fact that he has found an Anacondon nest and there are all
42:20
these eggs that they could eat, and she is accusing Lofy of distracting Ace,
42:25
and Luviy's like, I'm not distracting him. I just can't get these
42:29
eggs all by myself. Classic add Loofy. And when we come back to
42:34
the present, Machino is like just crying outright, and de Don says,
42:39
Louviy loved Ace more than anything in the world, and everyone around her is
42:47
also crying like the other bandits as well, watching this whole thing. Garb
42:53
throughout by the way, is just kneeling in front of her, bleeding,
43:00
and the mayor comes and is just like, what happened to Lufy? They
43:04
say he just went missing after the war ended, and Garp says, that's
43:08
true. A submarine carried him away. The admirals attacked and tried to stop
43:15
him from escaping, and afterwards they held a search but they couldn't find a
43:20
single trace of him. There was no shipwreck, so he's probably alive.
43:25
And the crowd is just like, oh good, somebody in the crowd,
43:32
what's up with this bandit? Why did garp let her punch him like that?
43:38
And Dedawn turns around and she says, Lufy's been a little more on
43:46
since the day I met him, But no matter what he does, I'm
43:51
always on his side. As much as I'm hurting, I know he's got
43:54
it worse and it breaks my heart and I just, you, guys,
44:05
this is just so good. She just stands there in the midst of everything
44:10
and yells, loofy, I know things are hard right now, but don't
44:15
you dare give up? And it's so prescient because that's exactly what he's on
44:21
the verge of doing. And I love the fact that she seems to have
44:23
like she understood that somehow. So then we go to the New World and
44:37
we see this amazing memorial that has been built for both Ace and white Beard,
44:47
and there is a massive group of people here paying their respects, lots
44:53
of flower petals fluttering about, And I have to say that as much as
44:59
I loved the there was a big part of me that felt really bad that
45:02
Lufy couldn't be here for this. I just and this is often the way
45:08
that the people who were closest to the person who died are still like in
45:16
such grief that they can't even attend the wake or funeral or memorial or whatever
45:22
it is that you decide to do. So I understand, and Lufy is
45:28
also a wanted man. I'm not sure how much he could be out here
45:32
anyway, but like I definitely felt like I wished he was here, And
45:40
it was such a peaceful and beautiful spot with so many people paying their respects
45:47
that I feel like Lufy would have been really gratified to see how many friends
45:52
Ace had made and the way that he was being remembered. And there's a
46:05
moment here where Shanks is talking about as for white Beard and Ace, I'm
46:12
sure you won't object to their friends taking care of the burial, and we
46:17
see Sengoku saying, let me take responsibility. This is like a little flashback.
46:22
So that's why these things are so sort of over the top, these
46:25
these memorials, gravestones, Shanks and I really liked this. Shanks is thinking
46:37
about Ace and is like he died like a true man, and honestly,
46:46
a part of me felt like that wasn't true. Ace died for pride.
46:55
He didn't die for a good reason. He died because he was trying to
47:00
make a point, and he could have walked away and this could have been
47:06
over, but he didn't decide to handle it that way, and I personally
47:10
feel like that actually makes him really immature. Still, I have a hard
47:16
time with the ways in which this show tries to demonstrate masculinity because it can
47:28
feel like we're all over the place a little bit. And that's sort of
47:31
the way I felt in this scene, because you know, the Ace.
47:37
Sorry, Shanks is talking about this as though he admires the way that Ace
47:45
went out, but then he talks about how Ace was a lot like his
47:52
father, because his father also was the type that like refused to back down,
47:57
refused to walk away from a fight, and was like too bold to
48:01
cry. And I wish that he had known that there's nothing wrong with walking
48:07
away and there's nothing wrong with crying. And so it was sort of confusing
48:13
for me because I think Shanks is right, but it also felt like he
48:21
was sort of proud of Ace, and I was like, I don't know,
48:25
Ace is. I understand that he died for something that he believed in,
48:31
but ultimately it was just pride, really, you know, it wasn't
48:39
I don't know I don't know, you guys, what do you think?
48:45
But yeah, he says eventually, there's no shame in backing down, and
48:51
there's no shame in tears. And uh, Shanks is probably the most well
49:00
balanced out of all the pirate captains, you know the fact when he says
49:05
like, as long as you can overcome it, and remembering the way that
49:09
he was when that pirate came into town and he didn't fight back the way
49:14
that Lufy wanted him to, and he was just like all he did was
49:16
poor beer on me. And it doesn't matter. Like Shanks is truly elevated
49:23
in a way that none of the other captains are. And it's a good
49:29
thing that Loofy had him as a mentor. And I wish that he were
49:34
like around more. I wish he were around right now. I wish he
49:37
had been around for Ace and that Ace got to meet him and have somebody
49:40
better to model his behavior after. So, coming back to the area in
49:49
the forest where Jimbey and Lufy are, Lufy is just beating his fist into
49:54
the ground, and Jimbay is like, you've got to stop this, dude.
49:58
You can't keep injuring yourself and Lufy says, it's my body, so
50:05
it's none of your business. And Jinbe says, what about Ace, who
50:09
sacrificed his body for your safety? What about that? And Loofy gets big
50:16
mad over that and is like, if you fucking say anything else, I
50:22
am going to crush you. And Jimba is like, you're welcome to try,
50:25
but in your current condition, that shit is not going to work.
50:30
And Loofy decides to throw a punch and Jimbae grabs his arm and just flips
50:37
him onto his back immediately. And you would think that it would be sort
50:44
of Loofy going all right, well, I guess that's not gonna work,
50:46
but it just is a moment the dust settles and Lufy is about to go
50:52
for it again. He is so full of rage here, and this is
50:58
when we get the flashback with Bay talking to Ace back in the cells,
51:04
and Ace is saying, back on Alabasta, I saw my brother for the
51:08
first time in three years. As soon as I saw his face, a
51:13
weight lifted from my heart and do you know why? And it sort of
51:17
pauses here, but what he winds up saying is it wasn't seeing that he
51:22
was safe. It was seeing that he had friends, you know, people
51:27
who had his back, and I really really liked that, you know,
51:31
seeing it's one thing to trust the person, but you got to know,
51:36
like one person can only do so much and defend themselves against so much.
51:42
But Jim Bay starts talking to Loofy in the moment he's like because Luvi goes
51:46
after him, and he finally has to hold Loofy by the throat against a
51:51
rock and be like, I get it. Everything seems bleak and dark right
51:57
now. And you had confidence that came from your relationship with him, and
52:00
now it's nothing but doubt everywhere you look. I understand. And we see
52:09
a sort of montage of some of Lufy's like worst losses, which is really
52:17
interesting. It's almost like he's having a bit of like a PTSD flashback,
52:22
you know, and it's all done like there are bubbles that are sort of
52:27
closing in on him. It's weird imagery, but in very extreme like color
52:34
gradients that make everything look crazy, and he's he comes back to himself and
52:44
Jim By says, as long as you are consumed by regret and guilt,
52:49
you will never find your way forward. Your pain may be great but you
52:52
mustn't let it devour you. There is yet joy be beyond your sorrows.
53:00
What's gone maybe gone, but you still have something left in this world to
53:06
treasure, don't you. And there's a long pause, and then all of
53:14
a sudden, Loofy opens his eyes and he realizes what Jimbei is saying.
53:22
And he begins to think about his crewmates and his friends and counting them on
53:30
each hand, and it's so sweet, you guys. He's like putting one
53:34
finger down for each one that he thinks of and the memory that he has
53:38
of each of them. First we have Zorro, who's doing weightlifting. Hey,
53:45
you want to screw around, go do it somewhere else. I'm trying
53:49
to build some muscle here. Then we go to Nami. Loofy, we've
53:57
got a big storm on the horizon. Make preparations quick. And as he's
54:02
counting down each of these and he is thinking remembering each of his friends,
54:10
one of the huge bubbles that's sort of like inching closer and almost consuming him
54:17
disappears in this weird, sort of like other space of trauma that's going on
54:24
in his head. It's I really really loved this you guys, like the
54:31
having it be his friends that he is able to sort of regroup for and
54:37
remember and prioritize, even if it's like his own life feels so bleak and
54:46
empty right now, there are people in it who matter still, and even
54:52
if just for their sakes, you know, I really really loved this.
54:55
It was so sweet and you see like the cracks forming in the sort of
55:02
shell that had developed around him, and all this light pouring in and each
55:07
of his friends saying his name and smiling at him, and it was just
55:13
so sweet. It was just adorable. It's interesting, though, because he's
55:19
got ten fingers. He's only got nine crewmates, and he had said that
55:23
he wanted ten in the flashback, so there's still room for one more.
55:29
And I really wonder who's gonna be that last one. But yeah, he
55:35
starts sobbing, crying and saying all of their names. They're still out there
55:40
waiting for me, and Jimmy says, now do you see? And Lucy
55:46
says, I have to get back on the ship no matter how long it
55:50
takes me. So I'm really excited. I'm wondering how this is gonna work,
55:59
Like, is he gonna have to sail around and find them. Is
56:02
there going to be a way that they just somehow like wind up at the
56:06
same place. That's going to be sort of kismet. I don't know,
56:10
because he's saying he wants to go back to Sabayoti because he thinks that they
56:14
will be there, but they are so far from SABAOUTI most of them.
56:17
I don't know how that would even happen, you know, Yeah, I
56:23
really don't know. Uh So Jimmy says, I don't have to worry anymore,
56:30
like in the present, remembering what Ace had said about Lufy having a
56:35
crew that he could depend on, and Lufy just starts saying, I miss
56:38
them. I miss my crew, and that is the end of the episode.
56:45
So this was just a really good couple episodes, guys. I really
56:47
liked these, and I enjoyed Lufy having an arc that was like all him
56:54
where we really didn't see everybody else. It was very focused in a way
56:59
that the others haven't been. But I am really ready for everybody to start
57:04
getting back together, So I'm looking forward to that. I'm a little undertime,
57:09
but only a couple of minutes, and I feel like I've said everything
57:12
I'm gonna so, I'm gonna wrap this up. Thank you Florien again for
57:15
commissioning this. Appreciate it, Thank you guys for joining me, and until
57:21
next time to the LU motherfuckers. That was an Unspoiled Network podcast.