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INTERVIEW: London Brown Talks ‘Raising Kanan;’ Marvin Thomas, 50 Cent, Comedy, Theater Background, Acting Career, Losing His Brother + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day up the Breakfast Club. You don't finish for
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  Speaker 1: y'all done.
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  Speaker 2: Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is j Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We
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  Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. Law La Roses here as well.
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  Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, Uncle Marvin.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, now London Brown welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, brothers and sisters.
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  Speaker 3: Jess has been dying for you to come up here.
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  Speaker 3: When I mean every moment, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Everything in life, everything you can be talking about, just
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  Speaker 4: regular stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And she brings up Uncle Marvin story and I really
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  Speaker 3: think she thinks it's real.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, how real is it to you?
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  Speaker 2: You know? But no, that's what that's what that's what
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  Speaker 2: people supposed to feel if we as actors are doing
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  Speaker 2: what we you know, what we should be doing, which
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  Speaker 2: is people should feel some sort of empathy for these characters.
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  Speaker 2: And uh so that was that was the goal anyway
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  Speaker 2: I wanted. I didn't want Uncle Marvin to be caricature
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  Speaker 2: on the show, and just the you know, just somebody
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  Speaker 2: you should feel you should feel like, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: see something within that person that's human, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: we connect to.
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  Speaker 1: And was going to die when you started this final season.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's question.
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  Speaker 3: That's what she wanted to know.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: Ask your question anyway, since he reacts, What was you
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  Speaker 4: gonna say? Did you know that Uncle Marvin's character was
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  Speaker 4: going to die?
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember because they were really good and
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  Speaker 2: not like they don't people think that we get all
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  Speaker 2: all the seasons and we just it's just a bowtload
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  Speaker 2: of scripts and we just know what's going on. We
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  Speaker 2: don't really know. So because of that at the time,
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of annoying for me because I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I want to know what's happening so I can start
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  Speaker 2: to play these things early. But because I didn't know,
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  Speaker 2: it forced me to just be extremely present because I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know, so it's just like, let me just like
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  Speaker 2: it so I don't. I can't. I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 2: if he shout out to Sasha pen the show run.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if he told me or not.
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  Speaker 2: He may have, but it's so much going on.
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  Speaker 1: You would have remembered that.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been I've been thinking about employment since the
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  Speaker 2: show starts, like an incredible tempt job like you work
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  Speaker 2: when you work, you know what I mean. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't trust, to be honest with you, don't trust none
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  Speaker 2: of this stuff. And I got it. All the stuff
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  Speaker 2: is God anyway, because I can't depend on everything. The
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  Speaker 2: business is fickle anyway, so you know, and then we
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  Speaker 2: had to write a strike COVID and all that. I
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  Speaker 2: can't be, you know, worrying about this stuff too much.
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  Speaker 4: But you played such a pivotal role, well, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as Uncle Marvin's character in the world of raising Canaan. Right,
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  Speaker 4: what did it mean to London Brown when Uncle Marvin
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  Speaker 4: did get killed and we had to see it in
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  Speaker 4: three different angles?
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  Speaker 2: Marvin in the church said, when I saw that, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, Spike Spike Lee, shout to
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  Speaker 2: Spike Lee, missus Spike Lee. He's good for that. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: he'll double back on a on a on a motion
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  Speaker 2: like that. But you know, it was just it was
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  Speaker 2: just interesting that the guys that I people send me
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  Speaker 2: like voice notes, you know, guys crying and we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about these some goons, so, you know, and the shout
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  Speaker 2: out to my shouts Big Mike on Chicago. He was
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  Speaker 2: telling me how they had he had some opposing Uh
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  Speaker 2: he had. He was watching the show with some ops
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  Speaker 2: and different people, but he was at that particular moment
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  Speaker 2: people you know, felt they still he cried, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but that's cool. I mean he's supposed to feel that.
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  Speaker 5: That's what Otherwise, why would might be watching the TV
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  Speaker 5: show with his ops.
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  Speaker 2: Because that together, right, that's exactly what he was. He
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  Speaker 2: was in the room. He did not necessarily his ops,
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  Speaker 2: but there were two opposing people that were in the
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  Speaker 2: same building. He was a watch part or something and
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  Speaker 2: so and he was talked me, said, hey, man, they
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  Speaker 2: the dude there. They're crying about Joe winning the little
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  Speaker 2: you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, kill you man.
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  Speaker 5: But Uncle Marvin boy looking your.
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  Speaker 6: Characters started to evolve though, because at first you was
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  Speaker 6: like like super like vile Uncle Moore, and then you
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  Speaker 6: started like having conversations with your daughter and we started
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  Speaker 6: feeling feelings and you were still eating snacks, but like
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  Speaker 6: we were always kind of trying to figure out what
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  Speaker 6: emotion and what side we were going to get from you.
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  Speaker 6: But it was like you were trying to evolve if
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  Speaker 6: it as a man, but you couldn't leave who you were.
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  Speaker 2: I think, But I think that's Uncle Marvia Is. I think, well,
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  Speaker 2: what I try to do is try to just layer
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  Speaker 2: him down as far as uh. He's not just one thing.
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  Speaker 2: So at one point he could be holding a bag
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  Speaker 2: of chips, he could be holding the gun, or he
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  Speaker 2: could be holding his daughter, and none of those things
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  Speaker 2: seem out of place because they all are him. So
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  Speaker 2: but most when you think, but most of us, we're
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  Speaker 2: not just one thing. We're not always one particular way.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes we wake up in the morning, we'll get a text,
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  Speaker 2: the text to through your whole energy off. But that's
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  Speaker 2: not to say that you're not being the real you
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  Speaker 2: when you show up for work. This is this is
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  Speaker 2: what version of you you got when you with your kids.
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  Speaker 2: That's another version. We are a astronomer things. So again,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to I just wanted him to read
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  Speaker 2: as a real person and not just some you know.
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  Speaker 2: And also I'm with some I'm with some juggingnuts like
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  Speaker 2: shout tot for Tina Miller, Tony Dan's a window pier.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with some hairy cute I'm with some some people
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna show up. So I'm not trying to get
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't. My main goal was not to get what
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  Speaker 2: I call lost in the sauce with the show, I
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  Speaker 2: already knew. I was like, Man, I ain't finna just
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  Speaker 2: I'm with some hitters. These these these folks get busy
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  Speaker 2: with the action. So I was like, man, let me
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  Speaker 2: stay employed. Man. And also when I'm acting, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: low key auditioning for the next project. I don't know who.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who won't sit back and watch this show.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to. I ain't even thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm this is for today, but also for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is watching out and told everybody Marvin.
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  Speaker 2: Good, I need more employment. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Also you also started in you said you have a
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  Speaker 4: background in theater.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, come to theater.
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  Speaker 4: So is that would like kick thing? Because I felt
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  Speaker 4: like the character development in the beginning, we do see
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  Speaker 4: Uncle Marvin as this, you know, this volatile character, right,
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  Speaker 4: you down with anything. You listen, you're keeping the family
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  Speaker 4: business going. You wanted the Thomases. You know you're the
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  Speaker 4: big brother, and then you know the relationship between you
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  Speaker 4: and your daughter is very tumultuous. And then you know
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  Speaker 4: you put your hands on it because nobody in the
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  Speaker 4: Thomas family actually really knows how to love with emotion.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all love differently. So that's why it hit so hard
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  Speaker 4: that last well, the second to last episode, you know,
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  Speaker 4: right after you whip Kana's ass, it was like your daughter
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  Speaker 4: knew right, Like you softened, like yeah, and then you
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  Speaker 4: always was working on yourself anyway, because remember the guy
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  Speaker 4: in the elevator. Yeah, you know, you could have killed
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  Speaker 4: old buddy, you know what I mean. But it was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I gotta have empathy for other people.
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  Speaker 4: You always were trying to work on yourself, and it
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  Speaker 4: seemed like although Rock was the brains, uncle Marvin was.
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  Speaker 4: He was the brains, He was the muscle, but he
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  Speaker 4: was the brains behind a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So when you say you're like I wanted to be
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  Speaker 4: a real person, did your background in theater kick in
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  Speaker 4: to make him more human although he was extremely flawed
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  Speaker 4: in the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what acting, well, what I think theater
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  Speaker 2: does is just helps to reinforce the tools. But as
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  Speaker 2: far as what I felt, you know, made Marvin real,
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  Speaker 2: that's just playing truth, you know, is playing these things
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  Speaker 2: for real, really listening in these imaginary circumstances and being
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  Speaker 2: extremely present, like it. That's why you know, it's always
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  Speaker 2: funny sometimes and I don't know, maybe I look back
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  Speaker 2: on this and may not feel this way, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: so when you get your actors they say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't watch myself. I count like if I think,
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  Speaker 2: if you're playing it for real, you you shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: seeing yourself. When I look at Marvel, I'm not looking
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  Speaker 2: at London. I'm looking at I'm looking at the guy
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  Speaker 2: who got these issues. I'm looking at the guy who's
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  Speaker 2: loyal to his family, who's trying to figure out how
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  Speaker 2: to repair the relationship with his daughter. He's going through therapy,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm glad they were able to highlight within the
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  Speaker 2: show and get that whole thing going. But I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: at Marvin as a as a real person. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: looking at Lundon with a flat top. That so, so
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  Speaker 2: my point is when I again, when I look back,
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  Speaker 2: uh at with with the show and again shout out
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  Speaker 2: to the writers. Man, I'm glad they trusted me, because
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  Speaker 2: use that's what happens. If the writers like you, they
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  Speaker 2: start to they start to build around you, and I
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  Speaker 2: could tell they start they start to learn my voice
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  Speaker 2: really well, and we was able to create this art.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what any store shut, any act that that's
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  Speaker 2: what we every no scene starts and finished, finishes the
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  Speaker 2: same way. So the cool thing about doing the series
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  Speaker 2: is that we have time to build like that. So
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  Speaker 2: because if you go back and people if they go
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  Speaker 2: back and watch season one and season five, we don't
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  Speaker 2: sound the same. We are all air but we all
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  Speaker 2: learn it together. But I'm just glad they kept me
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  Speaker 2: around long enough to, you know, to do that. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm always like again, I'm always interested in arcing it.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta gotta go somewhere. But that's why again, that's what
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  Speaker 2: we all change. And like I said, between therapy between
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  Speaker 2: because you know, there's a there's like seeing each season
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  Speaker 2: I think was different from Marvel and I think like
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  Speaker 2: by season three, I think there's a scene with Marvin
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  Speaker 2: has this, uh he's a male man and he takes
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  Speaker 2: one of the Italians out of something. That's when I
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  Speaker 2: felt like the streets embraced Marvin because in fact, I
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  Speaker 2: was living in Harlem. I'm a dude, said here, what's
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  Speaker 2: to do from the show, And I'm like, man, he said, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: now you get a pass. I'm like, how long have
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: you I been thinking of Robbie, you know, but that's
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  Speaker 2: the but the streets, that's when they embraced Marvin at
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  Speaker 2: that point. So that was cool, man, because people laugh
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  Speaker 2: with Marlon and crowded Marvin. And that's where'd you grow up?
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  Speaker 2: L A, l A, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: How long did it take you to get the New
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  Speaker 4: York accent down? Because you got it down?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Honestly, I started to a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I was. I I started, I started
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  Speaker 2: kind of entertaining the idea because I used to do
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  Speaker 2: this Denzel impersonation. So I had some ideas about a
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: little bit not what you know, what you can prove.
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  Speaker 2: So when I began to work on calling these things out,
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  Speaker 2: boom and so anyway, so I'm playing with, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the verbage of that and the vows of that. And
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: then of course is being around the culture. I was
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: outside all the time and shout also to Malcolm made
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  Speaker 2: were both from l A. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm glad people, you know, people they liked what
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  Speaker 2: we did, because you know, if we didn't do, if
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  Speaker 2: we didn't, if we weren't believable, they would they would.
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  Speaker 2: I would have heard it. I'm outside all, you're a
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  Speaker 2: comedian too, Like that's what I was telling just earlier.
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  Speaker 1: That's well she was asking me.
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  Speaker 5: She said, I didn't know you, but I'm like, we've
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  Speaker 5: interviewed London before, you're a you're a comedian.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Stand up, yeah, stand up. We did.
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  Speaker 4: Question you know what I already know about you. I've
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  Speaker 4: been on shows with you. Yes, we did. Barclays him
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  Speaker 4: and I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Think you no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Be in the middle of this.
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  Speaker 4: But I still always acknowledge him as London Brown. But
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  Speaker 4: he just played a very very you know character, just like, what.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean you get nervous?
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  Speaker 3: Nervous about being stuck as Marvin right, meaning we had
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  Speaker 3: a Mario up here and I was like, people look
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  Speaker 3: at you as Go so much.
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  Speaker 1: Does that bother you? As an actor like that, you'll
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  Speaker 1: be always nagging.
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  Speaker 3: Especially because people love Marvin or was so in Tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: so ghost that I'm not comparing.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think, okay, I think Ghosts is different
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  Speaker 6: because of he led the show so early on. But
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  Speaker 6: I think your character, by the time you got people
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  Speaker 6: of you, I feel like people really hanging on to
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  Speaker 6: and you passing away. I think it's different because Ghost
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  Speaker 6: let us comparing people know him as this.
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  Speaker 2: Are you nervous the same?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm like, first off, man, we gotta again,
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  Speaker 2: we gotta decide what we want to be bothered with
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  Speaker 2: the fact that people even know London or Marvin. I
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  Speaker 2: ain't tripping, you know what I mean? So I'm I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good with that because let's let's go back when
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  Speaker 2: I first did this with you guys. We're on the
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  Speaker 2: show called The Hustle. Nobody Nobody, oh.
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  Speaker 7: Ship was on that we did exactly we didn't see
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  Speaker 7: trying to show your dumb ass all of this.
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  Speaker 8: He was on ball as he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yo.
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  Speaker 4: I literally said, I said, you know, you act like
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  Speaker 4: you don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I was telling her, I know who you are. She
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  Speaker 5: was trying to tell me I didn't know you. I
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  Speaker 5: gotta know who London Brown is.
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  Speaker 1: But I forgot.
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  Speaker 5: We did the Hustle with Preddie gives and.
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  Speaker 2: But you know again, No, this is this is why
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  Speaker 2: we do. This is why that's what TV does.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck did I walk into you?
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  Speaker 2: No? I get it, but this is this is all
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: part of this, this journey of all of this which
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: is you know you're do an interview till you do
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: a show too, and people get a little more exposure
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  Speaker 2: different things. So I mean, I know this is early stage.
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  Speaker 2: So to your question, I'm not I'm I'm concerned about
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  Speaker 2: you know, because I'm not stuck to one idea. But
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  Speaker 2: if people remember me from marl and that's cool whatever,
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: you know, buy tickets, come out and Marvin all day, then.
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  Speaker 6: How's your audition has been now? Or like calls for
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  Speaker 6: other work following?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I get. I do a lot of
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: audition shots. I got, I got a good team, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm always I just turned turned in an audition like Monday.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing about it is because people say, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting calls. I'm getting calls, but some of these
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: calls are from people who just wrote their first script
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  Speaker 2: last week. Hey listen, I want you to I want
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: you to be a DJ. Right, be a DJ, but
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: you're also on your own chicken business. You be the lead.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I can't be doing that stuff. Bro,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: I gotta keep the moves, got to be progressive. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in the rush again. This is all God anyway,
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  Speaker 2: So I just I don't want nothing of that name
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 5: Well listen, that's interesting though, right, because you say you
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  Speaker 5: don't want to play the DJ, but you're a comedian
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  Speaker 5: who became famous playing somebody capable of killing people, right,
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  Speaker 5: So which London is closer to the real youth?
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  Speaker 1: And when that makes everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Laugh, you know, Marvin, Marvin and London, actually they aren't
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  Speaker 2: that far apart. I'm just like low Ki, a heel
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  Speaker 2: version of Marvin, like we're not. That's why it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have to go no acting bag from Marvin.
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  Speaker 2: That's just again just playing the truth. So but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of shit are you on?
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  Speaker 7: Bro?
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  Speaker 2: Listen in the past, the point is I just want
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  Speaker 2: you know again, I just wanted to play play it
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  Speaker 2: to the truth. Like I said, I lost my brother.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm also not the actor who sometimes their actors,
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  Speaker 2: their method is to recall things they lost their grandmother,
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  Speaker 2: and then they think about that and then they cry.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. Necessarily that's not how I work. I just
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: try to be extremely present. I don't know when I
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: even know I lost my brother in twenty fifteen. I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't thinking think. I wasn't thinking, oh I lost my brother.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Now let's try to conjure some tears, you know, because
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: when you sometimes you know, people ask if when you
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  Speaker 2: act and say, can you cry onright? Can you cry
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  Speaker 2: on Q? That's the that's the sign for them. But honestly,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: we don't go through life trying to cry. We actually
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: try not to cry. So it's not about crying. It's
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: not about trying to show these emotions. But we're trying
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: to fight back these emotions that we feel. And so
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: with Martin we should we I mean, we should feel
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: our feels. But now when it comes to Marmin and
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: these and these kinds of things, it wasn't hard to
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: connected that stuff like that. The writers were so good
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: with the story that it wasn't hard to just And
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: then again, I'm playing across some good actors. I can
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: look at Hally kidor she's gonna give me something, She's
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: gonna give me something, and people are all these actors
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: are showing up to deliver. So it ain't it's not
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: that difficult. I'm just I'm I'm right you President, I'm present.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Unless it was perfectly casted. It was perfectly casted.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Man shout shout the fifth, Miss Corney marking and everybody,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: thank you man.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: No how involved was fifth on set with Reason Kane,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: And I mean, I know.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: He showed up a few times. He showed we've had
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: some talks. He showed have a few times. He wasn't
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: like there every day because of course he got his
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: own thing he going got going on. But he showed
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: up a few times to just you know, see how
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: how what his money's doing. And I got it, you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: but he was cool. Shout out to fifth Man and.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: To see how Macay Curtis was getting the talk down
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: just like him, because like you said, season one, but
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: cock hurd Is wasn't talking like fifty. We talked more
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: like fifty than fifty.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: He go, he was doing this, he shout out to
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: that's a lot man. People don't understand like to carry
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: a show like that or like this is.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: A big show.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: He you know, he was always cool, always humble, man nice.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: That's the cool thing about the show is that everybody
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: it's good energy. Man. It wasn't like, you know, it
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: didn't get weird because sometimes get weird even and also
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I got a shout out to the writers again because
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: sometimes on the show, by the second third season of
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: writing get the writing starts tanking. With this show, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: felt personally that the writing just got better, it got strong,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and just got more of the plot twist. You never
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: knew what was going on. But so I'm just glad
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: to even be a part of the show Man.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: When people were used to do a little like battles
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: between y'all and like the other series, I mean the
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: other shows in the series, they would say that like
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: y'all show was because you come from theaterre Patina. Like y'all,
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: y'all's acting has always set out first, and then they
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: would talk about how, like Tariq Bryden, they would Michael
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Rainey or Johnny or Giano Johnny Johnny, they had to
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: develop into the characters and y'all would do some like
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: battles sometimes.
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: Not that they suck, but.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: People would talk about the two shows differently, and also
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: you guys would throw little shots at each other online playfully,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: so but it made people start having a conversation about
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: the acting across both shows and people. The acting was good,
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: but I think that people felt like from the beginning,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: like we grew with Michael Rainey as a lead of
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: from Power, we did like and he talks about that.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: But from You Guys show, I feel like Mikaile, we
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: had to grow with them. But I think a lot
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: of the older cast members from the rip You Guys
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: came out the gate where people were like damn, like
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: they acting acting well.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Again, I knew from the table read I was very
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: strategic about not getting lost. I say, man, I got
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to carve out my own land. And you can't really
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: say that. You can't say everybody watch for me. You can't.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: It has to show through the work. But I knew,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: excuse me, I knew that. Like I said, Petina, I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: knew she's gonna I knew who I was in the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: room with. I was like, man, I'm about to figure out.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I'm about to you know. Again with the I said, man,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: let me let me do this, because even with the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: even with Marvin Eden, that was just a surface idea.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody was focused on that. I'm like, man, that was
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: just the that was just the hook to get everybody's eyes.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: But I knew, I knew what I was gonna do.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Uh you know, as far as I knew, I had
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to go really get in the bag with this stuff.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Because again, we with some with some serious hitters. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: then also I don't know who's gonna be watching the show.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know who what producer, director, somebody late night,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: somebody's nephew say hey man, you know watch the show,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and he put on the show and he working on something.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know which Ryan Coole is
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: gonna be watching the show and looking. So I'm just
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: trying to again, even with the food thing, people think
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the food is just you know, Marvin just snacking. But
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: even then, like for example, when Marmon has a lollipop,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that's to say that revenge is sweet. Now the audience
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: don't know that, but I got to know that as
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: an actor, when I make these choices, they got to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: mean something. So nothing is just just because. But again,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to do the work so that when things,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you know, I can you know, manifest these other things.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: The chips getting salty on the streets. So wait a minute,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: so you started doing so you started doing that yourself.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: That's something that you em better than your own character.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna start eating.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I just want to again, just create another some things.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: What was gonna be interesting about Marvin when he's not
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: talking again, it's just another another way. And this comes
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to theater as well, just making like small business. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you can see these with actors who do if you
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: go back and you watch I think Taking three. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: think Forest Whittaker was in this one, and he's he
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: when you can see his character thinking he has a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: little rubber band on his hand, these a little small choices,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you know. Uh, you know, I don't smoke, but my
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that idea to smoke, that's something I've been practicing in
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the theater since forever. It's just one of those small props.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: But I don't smoke. But by the time it got
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to Marvin, you know, he's smooth, everything got to look.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I wanted Marven to be cool and smooth and just
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you know, collected, not you know, uh, just just I
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: just want him to just be I wanted him to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: be a guy that guys looked at me like, man,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that's he's cool. We we got his back, and then
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: also women look at him like man, I would I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: would hang out with him gun and all. You know
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So you think Marvin deserves to die?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I think I think that if with that lifestyle that
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: comes with that, that can be expected.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Even with a redemption arc.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Well even even with that, sometimes that's but that's how
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: life is. Sometimes it may not. It may have always
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: circle around. Because the only thing I could have thought
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: of us that if they didn't write him, if they
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: didn't write his death, then maybe he would have, you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: rolled off into the sunset with Juke boxing. Maybe been
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a different kind of dad. But I think how he
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: went out, I think it was a good storytelling. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: look how he did man, so shout out to him.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I loved it because I was very surprised. It's like
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I felt to come in and you were setting it up,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Marvin was setting it up for Juke to be okay,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: right when you go and you handed the past of
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: the briefcase of money, like make sure my daughter gets
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: this with this letter. But I was like, you know what,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I would have so much rather not that it matters,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: but would love to have seen him go to jail
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: right for killing the foster parents, and the little girl
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Juke becomes a cop, she gets her father out of jail,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: you know, some type of way, you know, but she's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: still live our life and become this minute that we
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: see in power later. But then it wouldn't have registered
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: for her to be that fucking gully in power. Her
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: father died by the hands of her cousin, who she
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: goes and return to kills his mom, and shit, do
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: you feel that this is my last power?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Question?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: But do you feel that vilified? You growned you right
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: and power? Her life is justified, like what she does,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: all her actions are justified because everything was taken away
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: from her. Painting took fucking everything away from this whole
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: fan everything and didn't give a and it's not care
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: at all. She she you know, he took both of
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: his mom's brothers, you know. And then Juke saw that like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: damn you hugging your mother at you had the nerve
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: to kill my fucking dad, you know what I mean?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: And I can't go hug him now. And then your
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: mother killed my fucking mom who didn't really, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: particularly want me, but she was where else was she
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: gonna go?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's what That's why Again, these writers I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, how they mapped this out and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: have these stories crossing, and I mean they just did
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a great job of just bringing it all together and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: tying it. They packaged it so well, and how they
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: did that because I'm telling you, people think that we
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: see the show early and we get it was new
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to us, like it was new to y'all. Like I said,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I did not know about Lulu's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: death in the first two minutes. I didn't know. So
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: when I'm watching it for the first time, and you
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: would think because we read the scripts, but they make
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: changes all they make change all the time, alternate endings
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and everything. So between between the writing changes, between the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: edits and we shoot out order, I don't know. Like
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Marven kind of had his own storyline in the middle
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of the show. So some days I didn't know what
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: was going on with Makai's because we ain't got no
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: scenes together. I don't know. So I mean it was
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: shout out to the writers, Man, did you watch Power?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I watched Power later, like a long time. I watched
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: it later as in recently, because again I didn't watch
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: it initially because at the time I was on Ballers,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and I remember hearing about Game of Thrones, Ballers and Power.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I want to be on Power badly. I was like, man,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that's a good I knew the hood watched Power, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I you know, but I was grateful for mine, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to watch it because I was like
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do it. So when I eventually no,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: no, no man, Mark, oh man, I haven't.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Just what Laurence said, she said, we grew with Trek
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: in his role once he took over on That is
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: what I said that the show we grew with Trek
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: is what I said.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: A strong actable. She's strong. You gelt like there's a
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: couple of carrist men. When you watch him again, you
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: feel something when you watch That's what. Also, when they
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: took him out, I said, ain't nobody say because as
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the as the face and as strong as he wasn't
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: as an actor, I definitely didn't get comfortable on raising
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: game people. He shout to Mark, I got, I ain't
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: met the brother yet. That brother got chops strong, right,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: then you better, you better ring get your egg game
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: with somebody like him, people like the teenagehot out to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Alan Noel on Nemesis. We started, we did the hustle together.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I remember, Yeah, Alna, some casts they get busy.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: A line is strong, is strong?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: That?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh huh, that's my guy. Actually spoke him a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: couple of days ago. Uh that some telling men. Some
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: people just got the got the thing. They got the chops.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: That brother got chops man. So shout out to Alana
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: weel he's that's another one. I'm telling you these these
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: are the next ones. First of all, Michael B. Jordans,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: they can't book for everything. First of all, he's in
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a whole the budget. Not that I'm in his pockets. Pause,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: but they got to it's going. They gotta make somebody else,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: got to get this work. And shout out to you know.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, we're here. We you know we're here.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And shout out to Liman.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Some JLP one boke up.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: You know, hey, I'm up trying. You gotta do it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It depends on what you want to do for me.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely all all of the stuff I'm trying to I mean,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: ain't gonna ain't gonna be nothing, and it ain't getting
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: them crazy. But you know, you try to do a
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: little ju like a rom com.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: You're trying to get all of.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: That, man, that that'd be fun. That'd be fun. Get
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to work the comedy in with the other stuff. So
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that's cool.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: You mentioned comedy in that. Just don't remember working with
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: you and Charlamage what do you prefer? You prefer standing
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: up or acting? And why do you stand up? With actors?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Move is so great?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You know what? Uh, well, they feed they feed each other,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: meaning like the acting allows for the exposure so that
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: people come back to the club or to the theaters.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Is what how that works. But the two different, the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: two different things I enjoy. I enjoy them for different things.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Like I enjoy drama because that's just a different uh
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: chop acting muscle to do stand up. But again, sometimes
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I think people think that stand up is easy because
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: it's fun. But that's a whole other time and all
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: of that's a whole other that's a whole other thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Like in fact, like it don't even take long to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: get out of rhythm. If you're not in the clubs enough,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you'll you'll you'll find your timing is just off. But
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: timing is good. The stand up stuff works well with
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the drama stuff because against about timing. But I like
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: them both.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Man, That's why I love drama so much.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love I love funny things through dramatic traumatic experiences.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Thet'll do it, that'll do man.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: How do you find time to stay on the road
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: and stay on these stages with you know, a flourish
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: and acting career.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: You know what, It's just one of those things when
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: you know, even when I was hereing you try to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: hit us from it's just of your lifestyle. I mean,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you know this. We try to get, you know, again
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to a city if I'm there. And that's one thing
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: TV does help with is it allows me to kind
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: of drop in on the spider man. Can I get
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a little time and and sometimes I don't. I don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: even need a lot of time. Just let me get
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: the let me try this new material out, Let me
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: just get on stage. Just something about staying on stage
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that you know, keeps keeps yourself active with it. So
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: but you know, bills is how I stay. Bills don't start.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: And if you you know, people borrow, they think that
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you on TV, they think they just a soon you
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: got money. I'm like, man, everybody, just my thing is
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: this speaking of that? This is the least my friends
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: can do. My friends, watch this. If you're gonna borrow
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: some money from me, I look there. If you're gonna
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: borrow some money from me, the least I need you
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to do is watch the show. That's the least you
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: can do. All my friends gonna borrow some money and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: then don't watch it up. I can tell because they
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you know, But also I could. I could tell because
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: but it's it's one of those things too. Sometimes your
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: friends don't see what's going they can't see the progression
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: because they're so close to you. So and I don't mind.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still quote unquote London. And then that's
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: cool because that keeps me in the very grounded space.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, well, you're gonna borrow some money, at
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: least watched the show.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: If I can't afford, that's what they borrow money.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: No, I don't, I don't. I ain't buying it. If
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: if they got money for we and they got money
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: for a haircut, you got, you got a little.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: That's why they borrow money from you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Man, that's not I can't be doing. It's no more.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not somebody ask you for ooh uh a few,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a few grand?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: What's a few? Three?
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: No? No, at least I'm the one I think this.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I think he asked me about seventy. No, no, I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: think ten grand. It's not a seven to seventy.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I hate no, no, no, I hate when a nigga asked
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: me for something they know they can't never pay me
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: much money in your life.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. My thing least okay, if you're
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: not gonna be Was it Florida? Was it for something good?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Or was it was it he was trying to.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: You know what. I think it might have been for
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: some good. But it's just the fact that first of all,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: we ain't never even some of these people, we've never
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: even had lunch before, right wow, So it's just like
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the unmitigated God to do that. I'm like the fact
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that you even went that high. Lets me know you've
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: been counting, You've been trying to count, Like, what what
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: makes you think ten ten grand is disrespectful? Seven grand?
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: I even ever sat down at lunch with you When
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: I'm asking about ten.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Thousand, and I haven't watched one full episode.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: Come on, I think Uncle Marvin is still making it
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: through the episode.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: That worth is two to four million, So yeah, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: man put the papers to the side, man.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Celebrity Network to four million.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: The weirdest part is when they ask for weird numbers
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: that you can't say, no, let me get one hundred
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: and forty two dollars.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: You know that people know better than this, but you
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: know that specific they might really need that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Let me get sixty three dollars and eighteen I just
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: started taking. I just started replying. Some times I just
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I don't even you know, and just keep it moving
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: because sometimes again I do help a lot of people
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: out and I will call people and I say, hey,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: maybe need something. If I can't help with the whole amount,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: maybe I could put a little something down on that
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: can help you with it. But you know, again, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you know, if you want to keep your heart in check,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you got to give anyway that don't necessarily need money,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: but you got to keep your heart in check by giving.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Now, talk to me about the London Brown Scholarship. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: think it's absolutely dope that you have a scholarship named
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: after you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm part of a shout out to doctor Teresa Price.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: NCRF a National College Resources Foundation. So me yo yo,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: cal Minchell DaVinci. We're all like ambassadors for the program.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: What we do basically we travel around and we're not
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: working and whatnot, and we help give our scholarships to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: help students get into HBCUs. And so we all do
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: our seminars and we try to just be you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: inspirational on that side, but also put some money. If
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: we can and help these students all, then we can
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: try to because sometimes a lot of people, man, they
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: first time, you know, first time going off to college.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: They they parents might be immigrants or something. They don't
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: come to no background of college and school or whatnot.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: But if we can help them and inspire them to
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: do so, and like I said, be a space for resources,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: and sometimes that might just mean even if it's not financial,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: it might be just because we give all a lot
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: of scholarships on the spot, some people get full rides.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: So if we can do that stuff and they can understand,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: just see it coming from somebody real regular declar from
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: South to LA. But they'd be like, man, you on
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the show again? The show is that that's the drawing.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: You know, TV is good for the influence. But now
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: got your attention. Let's talk about something more solid or
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: let's get to the thing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: We were talking about that this morning.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: What young Doug was talking about it, I think that's
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: what he was trying to say when he was saying,
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: how what was it you got to famous? You want
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: kids to be kids should be famous, get you in rooms.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: But I was saying that, no, you know, the work
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: gets you in those rooms, and you can become famous
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: from that work that you're already doing. Right, that's kind
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: of what you're saying as well.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because again, to be on TV is
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: if we're not gonna do anything with that. With that,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like what are we doing? It's the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: same thing like, And I don't know, maybe because maybe
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: because I'm not a billionaire yet, but I'm like, how like,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: how do we have billionaires and we still got we
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: got people homeless?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: But I don't understand that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Again, maybe because I'm not in that space ship, but
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, when people talk about not having enough, having
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: so much money they can't spend it all, how does
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: that work if you got Probably because you're not supposed
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to have that much anyway, That's all I get into
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: some mothers. But nonetheless, the whole idea is that don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: let me become a billionaire. I'm trying to. I'm looking
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: for people to help, you know, if I can do that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, let's just let's get it going.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you're you're proving that right, because what
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: you do with a million dollars is what you're.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Going to do with a billion. There you go. You know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I was going to ask you, do you have any kids?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I don't have any kids. You're hearing that roll yet,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you know what the thing about kids? Look, this is
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: what it really comes down to. It's rough by myself.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: So when I think about it, I'm like, man, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: got to split this money up a few ways. So,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but I love kids. That's why all my work has
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: always been with kids. Man. I got a lot of
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: respect for them, and I just I just think they're
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, the precious, you know. So whatever I can
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: do to help them more inspire than then that's what
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I'm on. Man. I love kids when I ain't got
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: nothing yet.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: What did Marvin teach you about forgiveness that London didn't
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: understand before playing?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I think just to to slow down and process. Meaning
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: sometimes you know, we judge our parents and then you
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: get older they be like, okay, that's why dad was
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: like this, I know our dad, And to stick around
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: because mom was tripping or mom my mom, give me
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: she was remember she told me early on, she said,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: London don't be talking on't share your business with everybody
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: because everybody ain't happy for you. Now, at the time,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't understand that. Now I'm like, ah, you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I get it. My mother's you know, she's very clandestine
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: and it's just you know, now looking forward, I realized
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: people ain't happy for you. So you just stopped, just
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: stopped sharing stuff, you know, and keep to myself. But anyway,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: that's to say that, I think when Marvin is one
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: of those things too, just slow down the process. On
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the show, Marvin's father, I think, committed suicide and there's
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: little things where we have to realize why is Marvin
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the way he is? Nobody no one's born a criminal.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: So that's why when you understand why people do what
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: they do, why they do what they do, and get
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to the psychology of these things, your judgment comes down
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: because you realize something led them to where they are
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and choices and circumstances. So with Marvin, part of that
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: too is just is bringing the judgment down because you
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: realize everybody got a story. Like again, Kanean didn't start
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: off as as the ol G Cane. He at one
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: point he was a kid. He didn't like the sight
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: of blood that was uh, you know traumatic for him.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And then you look up me and say, oh man,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: you look at Rock because I remember when the show
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: first dropped and was like go ahead, rock black Queen
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and all I'm like, Rock was manipulating this thing from
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the jump all the time. When you look at Kane
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and like, man for your moms to have you try
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: to you know, take your pops out. You know, all
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: of these things lead up to the Cannan that we
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: get to. And same thing with Marvin. You know, Marvin
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: had was he was was learning to grow as everyone
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: was watching. So uh as I am, so I'm learning
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: from that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: You know you mentioned losing your brother a couple of times, right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: they're playing a character like Marvin.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It's around the byt all that death. You know, the killing.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Did it ever become emotionally expensive for you?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You know, this last season was definitely you know what
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: happens is like upper back is like stress, but lower
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: back is like emotional stress. And I remember my back.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I did a lot of lower back pain the last season.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: It was like every day it was just it was emotional.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It was just you know that year I went to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: like twenty funerals in twenty twenty four, so the first
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: eight was between January and February. So I get these
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: calls all the time. Yeah, I get these calls all
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the time. So again it wasn't difficult to go there
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: with Marvin. The day before we started shooting Season five,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: grandmother had passed and I got a call about that,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and so all these things were just again it was
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I was very but when I lost my brother, because
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: before my brother, I remember hearing you guys talk about
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: this one time. I think it might have been with
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I think Tyrese was on here, but just talking about
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I grew up in the hood, so I was conditioned
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: not to cry. I thought something was medically wrong, but
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you don't realize that because you just function and you
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: just moving. But after I lost my brother, I became
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: way more empathetic and just the the good thing about
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: that was it made me just way more passionate and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: way more empathetic for people, and so I feel for people,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: you know, in a different way. But I didn't know
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: that until again, when I lost my brother, I was like, oh, shoot,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: this is that, you know. And as rough as that was,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: like I said, the cool thing about it was it
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: just it changed my heart in a good way, and
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: it just made me just care about people a lot more.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: So you probably thought when ty Reese was crying online
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: and she was like, what.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know what? Good thing? You know what?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Sometimes again it just depends on I can't. I can't
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you know, dictate when people feel whatever they feel. You know.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Fortunately we got stand up as, some therapy and different
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: things like that. We have people we tap in with.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: But you know, cool thing about acting is it allows
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: you to play these emotions and get get the feelings out,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I'm not a poet.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: If you he's a great actor too.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Come home, man. People want if people want to cry,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: but you do got to find in fact, I had
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: learned how to cry. I didn't even feel comfortable cry
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: by myself, you know, so even that, you know, it
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: was just when you grow up and you just don't.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: You don't even realize the conditions of by which you're
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: functioning under until something allows you to present them.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: How did you learn how to cry?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Basically, well, basically I didn't. I couldn't. I didn't cry
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: by myself, and so I found I found someone shoulder
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that I could cry on, you know, and things like that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Found someone's should.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the real thing, you know, because sometimes I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: remember that time. You know, people come up to you.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: And this is a sidebar too. Sometimes women be you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: they will try to be all the things for a guy.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And sometimes just because i'm your shoulder crying doesn't necessarily
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: mean that's your role for me. I mean I need
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: it for you. I need you to uh you cook,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that's what that's the that's the role I need for
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: you to be in my life is you cook. But
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: my mom's shoulder. That's the shoulder I feel safe with,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: you know, the crowd, because you.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Gotta find role other than cook.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: No, No, I do lots of things crazy, that's no
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: that that's what you present presents, you know, listen, but cook. No,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's what I'm saying. You gotta find because
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: because everybody, first of all, everybody not even built for
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: what they trying to assist you with. I'm like, you're
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: not You're not emotionally healthy to be dealing with my tears,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: so I can't be. I'm good you mess around. We
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: both be stressed talking to you. But but and again,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: sometimes you might just need it. You might need a
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: good old minute thirty I can cry it's not running,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: get it, get, get it off, boom and then you back.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So anyway, that's to say that again with Marvin, that's
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: why he was a guy who was able to tap
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: into that, you know. Uh it was Marvel just had
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a diment place in the last season. That's why he
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't snacking. Literally, I did an I did an interview
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and actually about a couple of weeks ago, and I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't outing crowd on camera per se. But there are
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of times just stepped away because it was
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it was kind of overwhelming, you know, which was this
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you know whatever this love is if you want to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: call it that, you can't really take all of it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like hate and I feel like hate
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: and love or bird from the same bag, Like I
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: feel like you can't.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Really get one without the other.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Hat is a usually confused advirus because there's no way
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: you're gonna sit around and critique somebody and talk about
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: somebody and steady the every you truly hate.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: It if you really had when he make time for that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: So it was just interesting, like I was doing these podcasts,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: and it was just again just lots of people, you know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: appreciating the work, and it just was it was just
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: a bit, it was too much a little bit. It
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: was kind of a weird thing. So I just was like,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I just wasn't ready for that. But you know, but again,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: people like you today and then tomorrow. You know, I
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: don't trust none of this, and so I'll give it
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to God anyway.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And that's what Especially if you keep regulating women to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the kitchen.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not regulating you women to the kitchen. I'm not
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: don't cur.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: How did you get started in comedy growing up in
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: south central l A.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Well, actually that transition wasn't too crazy because coming from
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: theater standard is like a one man act. Anyway. So
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I was teaching at the time and they had a
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: comedy show and I think one of the sister principal
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: somebody signed me up. I tried. I was like, oh man,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: this is I felt like I found my voice because
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of talented friends and I just
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: felt like, I said, man, I'm not this great singer.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not just great dance. So I'm not just great.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: What was my voice? I felt like I was like
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: cool Man stand up just was one thing I was
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: like felt it. It was therapeutic in that way, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: it was like cool Man found like I had someplace
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: to to be myself.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: The small like bits of like comedic relief that we
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: got from Marvin was that you talking to the writer's
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: room like, yo, I kind of want this or did
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: they see that for the character already?
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: And then you just fit what they saw.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I think they I think uh a lot like those
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: first few seasons shout Sasha pen Uh. They he let
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: me go and I was able to do a lot
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: of improvising, and I think what happens is the writers
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: start to learn your voice, and they started because Marvin
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: was not the comic relief. That's which makes it interesting,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: because they gave Marvin, the fans gave Marvin something like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: most you know, hilarious character for the series, and Marvin's
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: not the comic relief Marve. Marvin's not trying to be
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: funny at all. Marvin is just really living in truth.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: It is not the comic belief, but the comedy side
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: of me will show up because a lot of times,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff was just lunched showing up. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: was having a good time. So Martin was having a
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: good time. So I just you know, that's the thing
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: about being stand ups is that we get to sprinkle
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a little humor in there just to just to make
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: it charming enough for the drama where you still get
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the drama, but you know, a little a little funny
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: time in here and there will just lighten it up
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: and again creates another layer.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Well, he wasn't the comic relief to you, but you
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: definitely comic relief to me.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I appreciate this, you know.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Because it was such a serious show. It was a
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: lot of death left and right, a lot of crime,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: a lot of you know, adversity that them kids that
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: y'all were raising had to face ended up being just
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: like y'all and taking y'all out, you know. So you
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: definitely was.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: The comic relief. I appreciate that. I mean, again, the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: fact that people even kept up with the with the show,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that's that's cool.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I thought she was going somemash flow.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I knew one because that was that was
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the writer's Uh, that was the writer's wife, so I knew. Yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: they got married, so I knew that that's not in
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: But you couldn't at least have you know, man, he
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: was trying to give it to you.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I think he wasn't trying to take it. I think
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: that's what that was the cool part about that was.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: And I got to shout out to her, just creating
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: just enough of the audience didn't know. He's like, are
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: they trying to kick it or not? And again Rock
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: thought so, but Marvin, again, Marvin wasn't trying to Marven
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to hoghlight it all, marble, just being Marvin.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I think there was probably some somewhere in that space
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: where she probably probably liked Marvin, but I think she
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: also could appreciate the fact that he wasn't trying to
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: hit on her. He was just being Marvin. Marvin's just
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: just a fly guy.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Just funny.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Because that's when Rock saying that, she was like, everybody think,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: you know, Marvin just this this goofy, this funny guy, Like, yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: you're not funny. Your tragic.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Relief, I know, I know. And again we just we
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: looked up.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: What why are you looking close my face?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about what he said. I'm not gonna
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: let you steal my joy. You know, you know what,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: it's just I just again, I just I'm glad people
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: even just kept it. We looked up. You know, sometimes
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: you get you hope that you get some good writers, man,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: because it's a lot of projects. But we just luck
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: we had a good team of writers.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: But already the Power Universe was like, that's a big people.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: We are attached to those shows.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: So but that's not also bute, but the flip is
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: too because people are so attached. We all humbly respectfully,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: we're new faces to this thing. We're not, you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: it's like we ain't coming from nothing else so as
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: far as the universe. So it's like this audience, are
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: they gonna accept us as how they gonna work with us?
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: But that's what I mean by earlier.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: What I was maybe what I was trying to say
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: is that y'all came out the gate kicking, though, like
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: we didn't feel like, oh my god, we got to
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: learn to like these characters. We were like invested from
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: the early.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: That's more of an origin story, yeah.
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: But still like they're they're they're new actors.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: They're telling a story that we watched the latter part of.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Now they're taking us back to the beginning, so it
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: has to like fit a little bit.
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: Like to us.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like it was like, yeah, we knew the story,
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: but y'all were new to us still so but it
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: just fit like y'all felt like the characters that we
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: had been hearing about in Power and then also not
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: for enough, and we wanted to get an inside peak
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: of of what the beginning of Canaan's turning looked like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: Like I wanted to know why the hell is he
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: like that?
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Who the hell is you boxed this crazy bitch? Like
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: you know this is me watching Power years ago, you
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? And so I think y'all did
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: a great job.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Like I said, but again, we you just never know
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: sometimes the audience will connect to it or sometimes. So
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: we got five seasons out of it. So I'm glad
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: that because you know, I'm glad they was able to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: keep us, keep us for five season. That's cool.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: And that people, there's only one I never really connected
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: with Stop It for.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, because I like I like Tommy's Tommy.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I never connected.
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: Universe was on while Force was on too, Power Books.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: Because I was I was watching it, but maybe Power
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: Book two just didn't you think it overshadowed. I just
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: think that the fact that Tommy was still standing.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: After basically beating the whole Chicago. You got the mob,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: you got all these fuckers, and.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: You still got the same car.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Everybody like you would have been dead in real life,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: you know. But I just love Joseph's course so much
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: as an actual great director to maybe directed that like
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: two episodes.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's the episode there's a monologue that
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Marvis says, you know the kny uh, you can't even
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: see me, you can't climb it. However, got just episode. Man,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: he was real collaborative. Cool. But see cause he's an
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: active he understands the language of how to communicate to
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: get what it was he needed from us. So shout
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to him. Man, he's a cool dude. Man, shout to him.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: And this is my very last one. I promise you,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get you on out of here.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I let you know, this is the most question she's
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: ever asked ever, Power Like, you don't understand.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Shout to her for making that, for making that post
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: man people that was sent and taxing them that just like,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I really.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: But the conversation that you had with Rock, right that
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Marvin has with Rock and you say, I'm gonna ask
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: you some ship and I don't want you to get mad,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: and you basically was like was telling her like yo,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: you you never really even gave a fun about me
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: and live. Everything just always been about Canaan. Do you
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: really feel that that way, just as London being a
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: viewer as a viewer, not even you playing the characters,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Uncle Marvin? Do you feel that she was very selfish
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: to her brothers, the niggas that would do anything for her,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: who was trying to make her the proudest you were?
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Marvin is the oldest, correct, right, But like y'all still
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: worked for her, y'all were her everything, but she still
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: didn't value on to a higher level.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I think I think that, uh, I think there was
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: a lot. I think there was a lot of parts
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of Rock that was that was selfish and just making
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: sure she stayed above ground. But I do I do
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: think she loved her brothers. I do, But you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: at the same time, I think there wasn't enough time
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: for her to really feel she just she's she's functioning,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and getting through and even
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to the point where again she's she's protecting her son
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: so much. We was like, yo, that's why people talk
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: about man that. It was like they've been Defen's been
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: asking me for Marvin to beat down Kanaan, like early
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: when you go get him together, but the mom wasn't
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: with I was like, that's I'm gonna stay, Martin's gonna
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: stand his lamb. So when it when it came down,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: before that beat down, and I still I still don't
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: even know why she told them. They're parts of the show.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I'm telling I haven't watched the whole show. I'm still
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: finding out from fans of the show, Like I don't
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: know why she what made her tell Marvin that Caine
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and killed lou And like what was she looking for
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: him to do? I mean, I know she loved him,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: but I don't know what.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: She wanted you to do exactly what you did because
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: at this point, Yo, Caanan was cutting off at the knees.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: He had hooked up with Breeze, and Breeze was like, yo,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: like Yo, I'm about to kill your moms cause snaps
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: and pops before Juke took them out, was like there
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: they were the ones that were kind of playing puppet,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: you know, so you got to watch the show.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know what sub with you now, you know what,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: we shoot the show a year, you know, by the
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: time you guys say, it's already a year past. So
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking like I'm in the clubs. So I'm
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: not even you know, sometimes just moving. Are you working on?
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: What the hell Sunday with?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I will tell you being a club I'm on the
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: road just like him. But I just I don't know.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I did try to keep up with this particular season,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: but the other seasons I have not. I need okay,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: but I just again, it's just just a year. You know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: we're here removed from the show.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: So I'm just got London, I can tell I'm sorry
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: that you're a thinker. You observe a lot, and you're
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: a thinker. I don't mean anything. I just felt like
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: making that something I observed.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Trying to him. I trying to be why you said,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: Job he's been sitting over here on in your cheek
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: bones down.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: Here has nothing to do with him, everything to do
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: with you.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: What are you trying to say?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: My three favorite comedians London Us, Go.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: God, damn it.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Purchase Neil. I got Chappelle. Uh huh, pachise on Neil Chappelle.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go with some of you guys may
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: not know, but David Arnold. David Arnold, he passed away
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: a few years ago. He was he was just I mean,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: he was right. He's about to be out of here.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Anyway, shout out to David Arnold. Man, well, patrise Neil
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: and say Paul, I said Chappelle. I got the Paul
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Paul mooning somewhere. Just oh no, it's the truth, that's right,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Paul Mooney Man, ask you, thank you man. We appreciate
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing this with y'all. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, London appreciate you. Love you uncle,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: thank you anything ever quick. One last thing, man, you
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• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the thing about that what makes it dope is that
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: we talked to cast about not necessarily how we' they
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  Speaker 2: doing now, but how did they get there? How did
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  Speaker 2: you get to a million followers? How'd you sell out
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  Speaker 2: you know let me know so appreciate you guys. Thank you.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: London Brown's Breakfast Club, Good morning.
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: Every day.
• 54:45
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• 54:48
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