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Patriots Unfiltered 7/2: Reported Jahlani Tavai Extension and Offseason Hot Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: I hate it. Don't like any fruit.
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  Speaker 2: our one and only show this week, So be prepared.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to get it all in in this
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  Speaker 2: two hours. And sounds like you guys had a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good time while I was away last week. It was
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  Speaker 2: hard for it. It was hard without you. Where were
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  Speaker 2: you you were? Were you vacationing or vacationing. I was
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  Speaker 2: probably working harder last week than I do when I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: I was painting outside. This is setting up nicely for
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  Speaker 2: some home improvement. Well, we're gonna talk a little football.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry, because we did have a little breaking news
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  Speaker 2: that broke during Catch twenty two that Evan and Alex
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  Speaker 2: broke about Jelani Tavai. So we'll get into that, and
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  Speaker 2: I think the bigger discussion about a lot riding on
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  Speaker 2: this defense in order to keep our heads above water
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  Speaker 2: this season. So we'll talk about that. But it's Deuce,
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  Speaker 2: it's Tamaraw, it's Evan, it's Paul. We're here for the
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  Speaker 2: next two hours talking Patriots football in our temporary studio.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to look at the new studio. I'm
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  Speaker 2: very excited.
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  Speaker 5: Don't spoil it.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I'm not saying what it's going
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  Speaker 2: to look like, but I'm very excited. Is this the
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  Speaker 2: last show in here? Hopefully? Yeah? Could be. If all
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  Speaker 2: goes well, we'll be in our new digs on Tuesday. Wow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right? Exciting.
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  Speaker 3: So I have to miss the first show in the
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  Speaker 3: new studio that I'm on vacation. Next on vacation, me too.
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  Speaker 2: Same and you're at all three of you, so we
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  Speaker 2: might to push that back, you and Alex, You and Alex,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe we'll bring in somebody else. Maybe no socks.
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  Speaker 2: He no socks that Smith Smith. Oh wow, he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: wear socks. You got that one before.
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  Speaker 4: No, the dogs are always out for that.
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  Speaker 2: So here's no socks. When he wears shoes, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Wear socks like sneakers.
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  Speaker 2: No leather shoes, no socks, sneakers, socks, but when he
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  Speaker 2: dresses up, he doesn't wear socks. And he got that
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  Speaker 2: from his channel five days. Mike Lynch was the same way,
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  Speaker 2: so I think he was just copying Mike Channel five days.
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  Speaker 2: That goes way back. So that's the origin of no socks.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we call him that.
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  Speaker 4: I call him Mattie Appetizers.
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  Speaker 2: Mattie Appetizer. He is the appetizer king Maize.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, on the road, you don't out to dinner with
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  Speaker 4: with matt great time, but also you're about to order
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  Speaker 4: every appetizer on the.
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  Speaker 5: I don't hate it, honestly, I think the appet sometimes
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  Speaker 5: they're better than the actual entre.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, just give me a little of each.
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  Speaker 2: Where are my apps? Yeah? Love apps? All right, big,
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  Speaker 2: So let's get right into it. I guess you know
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  Speaker 2: Jilanni Devis. You know, the Celtics announced of being sold.
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  Speaker 2: They signed Tatum, but we're going to announce Johnie Devis.
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  Speaker 2: Hold my beer, Hold my beer.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I haven't seen the terms yet. You guys said
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  Speaker 7: three year deal.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty one million of max value for over three years.
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  Speaker 4: This is Reese, yeah, and Schefter fifteen million is the
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  Speaker 4: base value. Yeah, incentive package.
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  Speaker 2: So the Patriots haven't officially announced it, but when Reese
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  Speaker 2: puts it out there, you know it's it's accurate.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean I think you know, he's a guy
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  Speaker 7: that's he's really blossom the last couple of years. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: you know, just looking back at his stats last year,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, career year for him, you know,
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  Speaker 7: one hundred and ten total tackles. I mean, he was
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  Speaker 7: He's been a real productive player for them, And I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I think it's just that it shows Mayo wants to
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  Speaker 7: kind of keep what they have some you know, linebackers
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  Speaker 7: are the second level who can kind of play on
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  Speaker 7: the edge a little bit play inside. I mean, I
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  Speaker 7: think the conversation probably is people have been talking about
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  Speaker 7: wanting to get more mobile at linebacker, and this is
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  Speaker 7: probably an indication that they kind of like staying physical
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  Speaker 7: and versatile as opposed to you know, going more towards
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  Speaker 7: the end of the six one six, two two ten,
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  Speaker 7: you know, kind of a lighter linebacker style. So I
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  Speaker 7: think it's just an indication that that Mayo is is
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  Speaker 7: going to kind of keep what they did with Bentley
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  Speaker 7: and Tavai and you know, kind of rotating those edge
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  Speaker 7: guys a little bit and having him play in a
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  Speaker 7: couple of different spots. But I mean, I think personality wise,
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  Speaker 7: I think he's really come on here and you know,
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  Speaker 7: started to live up to his potential. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know about the money and how it all
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  Speaker 7: stacks up and all that, But last point is just
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  Speaker 7: that they've got a lot of free agents on defensive
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  Speaker 7: that next year, so I think they're solidifying a couple
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  Speaker 7: of things there. I mean, Bentley will be back to
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  Speaker 7: but you know, Judon Ouch, those are some big question
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  Speaker 7: marks too, So I think it's it's just part of
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  Speaker 7: kind of preparing for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, anything part I wouldn't disagree with anything Mike just said.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's been a solid player for them now
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  Speaker 3: for the last couple of seasons, and he's I think
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  Speaker 3: off off the field. I mean, I know that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: fans don't necessarily care about that, but I think he's
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  Speaker 3: one of the guys you want to reward. You want
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  Speaker 3: to keep guys like that in your program, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's important, probably was important for Mayo and Wolf
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  Speaker 3: to have a guy like that who does everything right.
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  Speaker 3: On and off the field, keep him in the fold,
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  Speaker 3: keep him happy. And you know, I think we've seen
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  Speaker 3: that trend of you know, we're working on over a
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  Speaker 3: dozen guys now, you know, sort of all together between
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  Speaker 3: guys that were resigned that we were actual free agents
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  Speaker 3: and now guys that have been extended. Is now you know,
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  Speaker 3: bar More Stevenson to buy you know, this Tugger you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, well he was actually a free agent, David
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  Speaker 3: and David Andrews another extension to Henry for another re signing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so like you're dealing with all of these guys, are
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's just say fifteen guys. That's what Mayow
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  Speaker 3: and Wolf wanted to do. They wanted to get guys
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  Speaker 3: that they knew and they felt comfortable with, and they
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  Speaker 3: wanted to retain them.
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  Speaker 2: So are these guys good enough? Are we Are we
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  Speaker 2: signing the familiar or signing guys who we really think
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  Speaker 2: can help us win football games? I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know, if I'm a Patriots coach and I'm laughing
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  Speaker 2: at what I just said, but you know, I'm comparing
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  Speaker 2: it to the rest of the league. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a good question.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we talked about some of this, some
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  Speaker 5: of it last Thursday with Remandre being re signed, It's like,
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  Speaker 5: did you really need to do that? Because I think
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  Speaker 5: we talked about how a lot of these running backs
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  Speaker 5: have just been rotating teams, Like, you really don't need
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  Speaker 5: to re sign Remandre. You can go find another one,
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  Speaker 5: you can draft another one.
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  Speaker 2: Does a young staff, you know, gravitate more towards signing
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  Speaker 2: the familiar guys that we know that know us. Now
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  Speaker 2: Alex van Pelt doesn't know these guys, but Gerard certainly does,
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  Speaker 2: and Elliott knows them, and you know, is that you know,
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  Speaker 2: is that not just convenient, but it you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: the familiar, It's it's something that we know who they are.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to be starting with new players and
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  Speaker 2: having you know, let's let's just go with what we know.
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  Speaker 7: I think there's a little bit of that, and I
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  Speaker 7: think that was the point that I kind of made
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  Speaker 7: on Remandre of you know, next year, you could just,
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  Speaker 7: as Tamara said, go into the musical chairs of the
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  Speaker 7: running backs and probably you know, pay someone similar and
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  Speaker 7: and maybe they're just trying to get ahead of that.
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  Speaker 7: On Tavai, I would just say he can play on
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  Speaker 7: my defense. Anytime there's a handful of guys him, Pepper's Barmore,
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  Speaker 7: you know, Gonzales that that. I just I think they're
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  Speaker 7: they're ballish their players, and you know, I like him.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's physical, So I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 7: I can see a little.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go back to Remondre because I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people had that same question. That's a running back.
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  Speaker 2: You know, now if it was Christian McCaffrey, you'd be no,
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  Speaker 2: no question right, Well he's a running back. Now, Remandre
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  Speaker 2: Stevenson isn't Christian McCaffrey. But this contractors of those kinds argument,
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  Speaker 2: but this contract is in Christian McCaffrey's either no but ken,
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  Speaker 2: but Ken. Remondre be a mini Christian McCaffrey in that
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  Speaker 2: he is a dual threat. He's a threat in the
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  Speaker 2: passing game and in the running. Can he be that player?
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  Speaker 7: I think a little bit, But I just I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I think McCaffrey is another level. He is and I'm
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  Speaker 7: not Hes got the explosiveness that I think that's what
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  Speaker 7: makes him so much more valuable. I think we have seen,
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  Speaker 7: you know, examples of kind of Remandre with surprising explosiveness
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  Speaker 7: and surprising kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of getaway ability. And that's kind of the pot not
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  Speaker 2: when you have a guy that could be a dual threat,
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  Speaker 2: does it make re signing him more sense than if
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  Speaker 2: he was just a running back? I think so.
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  Speaker 7: But the hard part for out of this question is
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  Speaker 7: that do you really want Remandre to be a three
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  Speaker 7: down running back? Do you want to run him into
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  Speaker 7: the ground. Do you want him to be the primary
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  Speaker 7: guy or do you think he's best served with a
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  Speaker 7: group of three guys where he can be an early
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  Speaker 7: down guy with some rotation and then there's a third
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  Speaker 7: down back.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's a potential three down player, doesn't mean he
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  Speaker 2: has to play three downs all of them. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: But the fact is he can be on the field
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  Speaker 2: in any situation and I think that increases his value
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  Speaker 2: as a running back a little bit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think Stevenson impacts the passing game much.
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  Speaker 3: He catches a lot of passes, he doesn't make any place.
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  Speaker 3: And we had when you were on vacation last week.
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  Speaker 3: I actually ran the numbers and there are five or
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  Speaker 3: six now the number is escaping me. Running backs over
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  Speaker 3: the last two years that caught more passes than Stevenson.
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  Speaker 3: There's only five or six. It's McCaffrey, Camara, Rashard White,
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  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon, Austin Eckler.
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  Speaker 2: I think those are the pretty good company.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, they all blow him away, they all blow They're
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  Speaker 3: all at least a yard more per reception. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: have the minimum of five touchdowns in that time. Remindro
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  Speaker 3: Stevenson has won. There's no comparison between the impact and
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  Speaker 3: the passing game between those guys and Stevenson. Stevenson catches
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  Speaker 3: passes and that's it. Okay, those guys catch passes.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe had those guys quarterback, would he have better production? No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. He's not explosive in space. I'm
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  Speaker 2: with Paul.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's more a guy that can play third
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  Speaker 7: down and ken fill in in that role, and I
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  Speaker 7: think that's what he's done the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 7: But it's not really I don't think he's best suited
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  Speaker 7: being a three down round. I think he's best served
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  Speaker 7: as an early down running back with a rotational piece
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  Speaker 7: with him that can kind of help him throughout the sea.
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  Speaker 3: I like the idea of Antonio Gibson in that role
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  Speaker 3: this year that they didn't have last year much better.
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  Speaker 3: And I also will say, in fairness, we didn't know
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  Speaker 3: the numbers on the contract when we talked about it
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  Speaker 3: last week. We do now. The contract's fine. We all
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  Speaker 3: said it last week. We said, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 3: going to be it was, you know, four years, thirty
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  Speaker 3: six million. We all assumed there's no way it's really
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  Speaker 3: thirty six million seventeen was the guarantee. We've seen the
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  Speaker 3: breakdown now, it's not a it's not a bad contract.
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  Speaker 2: For the team.
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  Speaker 3: It's very affordable numbers. His average annual value puts him
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  Speaker 3: sixth in the league among running backs, but he's I
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  Speaker 3: think it's like six million base salary and eight million
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  Speaker 3: base salary the last two years, two years that he's
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  Speaker 3: probably not going to see, you know, so it's very
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  Speaker 3: little in the way of upfront guaranteed money. So it's
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a fine contract. I think you made
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  Speaker 3: the point off the year, Freddy. They don't really have
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  Speaker 3: any running backs. Like it's kind of like Hunter Henry.
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  Speaker 3: You can love Hunter Henry as a player, well, you
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  Speaker 3: could hate him, didn't matter. They didn't have any tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: You had to retain him, and I kind of think
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  Speaker 3: they had to retain Stevenson too.
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  Speaker 4: So I just quick because everybody knows how I feel
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  Speaker 4: about Rimandre in the contract. Didn't love it, Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 4: but there's a difference between, Like, you know, he can
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  Speaker 4: still catch passes on first and second down, right, and
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that is an element that he will bring,
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  Speaker 4: is that he is at least a somewhat of a
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  Speaker 4: threat that if they want to spread it out or
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  Speaker 4: if they want to, you know, run him off play
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  Speaker 4: action and he's just a little check down over the
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  Speaker 4: middle of the deep options aren't open on first down,
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  Speaker 4: second down, he's going to be there.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Is he a dynamic third down running back? No, but
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  Speaker 4: there's still value that he brings into the passing game
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  Speaker 4: on first and second.
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  Speaker 2: Anything the Patriots can do to help them be a
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  Speaker 2: little bit less predictable on offense is a good thing.
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  Speaker 7: Right, It's not blunt and white where that was just hey,
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  Speaker 7: blunts out here, you know. So I think in Tevin's point,
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  Speaker 7: it does it does offer some you know, it's some
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  Speaker 7: concern with the defense that all right, this this could
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  Speaker 7: easily be a screen pass that they could easily spread us.
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  Speaker 4: Out and let him run around the talk about matchups
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  Speaker 4: all the time of like if you come out in
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  Speaker 4: a heavier package and they match you with bass, which
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  Speaker 4: doesn't happen very much anymore, but if they do match
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  Speaker 4: you with base, if then you go five wide into
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  Speaker 4: empty and now Remondre has got a linebacker on him somewhere,
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  Speaker 4: and now that's a matchup that you could potentially work.
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  Speaker 4: Like those types of things do you present themselves?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just say one last point, Fred is I mean,
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  Speaker 7: Fred Paul mentioned this, you know, the three year deals.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of three year deals.
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  Speaker 7: It just seems like Elliott Wolf, you know, and and
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  Speaker 7: when you talk about the Remondre deal too, I almost
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  Speaker 7: wonder if it's more about sending a message, you know,
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  Speaker 7: not so much given the contract, but sending the message
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  Speaker 7: of with somebody like Ramandre, who again you're reinforcing this
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  Speaker 7: is a guy that's been around and you know, we're
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  Speaker 7: gonna keep him around.
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  Speaker 2: And so I.
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  Speaker 7: Think they've done that a lot with with a few
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  Speaker 7: different guys and now with you know, Tavai as well.
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  Speaker 7: So I just I think that's the biggest impression for me,
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  Speaker 7: that message of three I.
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  Speaker 2: Know Elliott Wolf has said, you know, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day. These are going to be my decisions.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the final say he said that, But how much
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  Speaker 2: do you think these are drawed wishes, like, Hey, Elliott,
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  Speaker 2: I need my circle the Wagon guys. On defense, I
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  Speaker 2: need I need these guys signed figure it out.
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  Speaker 7: I mean I could see Mayo going about for Tavai.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I could you know, certainly the linebacker position.
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  Speaker 7: But I mean it's it's hard to say on offense
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  Speaker 7: because you know, Gerard Is admitted it's kind of Alex
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  Speaker 7: van Pelt's show, so it's hard to.
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  Speaker 2: Well it is. But I'm talking more locker room. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not talking about the field. I'm talking about the guys
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  Speaker 2: I want in my locker room, the self policing guys.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I remember, you know, Ernie Adams said it,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe even Dante said it. How did you know
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: when you had a good team, when the locker room
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: started policing itself? You know?
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah? And I think I do think you have to
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: worry about that too. When you're losing guys like Devin
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: mccorty two years ago, Slater last year, it's like, who
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: is taking that role of being the leader of this
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: locker room?
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Ye, and leaders you know, there needs to be more
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: than one.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I do, and that's why I agree with Mike about Tavai.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I think he's one of those kinds of guys and
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: you might not think of him as, you know, a
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: guy that's standing on a chair, you know, getting everybody
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: whooped into a frenzy. But I do think he's very
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: professional and very respected. David Andrews similar kind of thing
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: on offense.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Example, he's a hard had guy.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: He's he's going to come to work, he's gonna work hard,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: he's gonna do his job, you know.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: And I was at the combine.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: When we were at the combine, you're just talking to
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: people around the league as they say, you know, media people.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: You know, who's scribes, who do you like?
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: You know on the Patriots that doesn't get enough love.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: There's so many Jelani Devai answers, like of the people
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: that are like me that are are you know watching
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: film till wee hours of the night for no reason?
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: You know, so many.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: People watching the Patriot Conor McDermot uh and the Connor
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: mc Yeah. Jelanie Devais has talked about a lot as
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: being extremely underrated player on the Patriots defense obviously, you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: do slate it out well, wears a lot of different hats,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: can play on or off the line of scrimmage. But
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: then last year, you know, before it was a lot
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: of dirty work type stuff that doesn't show up in
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: the statute. Last year he added splash plays in there too,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: and it kind of took that next step as well.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Uh pff.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Not for everybody, but fourth ranked linebacker in the league
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: last year, off ball linebacker, you know, like true inside linebacker.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: I think I think you learned a little bit about
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: him last year too, with just how hard the season was,
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: and you know, the face that he put forward, the
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: effort that he put forward, and you know, he was
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: still one of those guys kind of bringing the intensity.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: So I've the best defensive material lineman in gotcha, We've
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: got the best off ball line Bill said that. I said,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: not not anybody else. And potentially you get the best
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: cornerbacks in Gonzales right out right elite elite. Yeah, they
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: won four games. Yeah, what happened.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And I I I get he's not He's not Fred Warner,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: all right, and induces right that you know, the stuff
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: in space and things like that still aren't a real
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: strength of his but he's improved a lot in space
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: and in coverage with his reads and his anticipation and
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: stuff like that to make up for the fact that
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: he's two hundred and fifty pounds playing you know, eight
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: nine yards off the line of scrimmage at times, but
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: really really solid player, like not going to.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Go crazy solid.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: But the contract doesn't go crazy. You know, I hate
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: the reminderary contract. I actually really like this, this deal.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I think to one of those contract a little less
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: now than you the breakdown, I would like it well
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: better than me to appreciate stubborness.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: But like Paul's this is what Paul said, I don't
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: care about a contract as as long as it doesn't
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: stop me from doing something else, and I don't think
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: this does. No, So like, what would you hate about.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Would you hate it less if he was producing a
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: thousand yards a season?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't like running backs? And how is he.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Receiving yards or like half and half if it was
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: like half rushing half receiving.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I just the biggest thing to me, And you're you're
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: all right about the fact that the contract doesn't prohibit
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: them from doing anything else in the future. That's fair,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: But I also think you need to evaluate is this
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: player worth the money that you're paying him, just in
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: a vacuum, like, is this guy gonna be worth it?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: And based off of what we know about running backs,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: he has two good years left.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: That would be my big fear, all right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I think you saw signs of him already showing the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: effects of the physical toll. It took two years ago,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: right when more numbers. Freddy Evan had these yards after
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: contact two years ago, fell by over a yard from
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: twenty two to twenty three. I don't think that's a coincident.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: That's not just because the offensive line struggled.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: No, But I the total ineptitude of the offense I
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: think affected everybody. Yeah, you know, offense is bad.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I mean there's no two ways about it. The offense
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: has been bad for two years.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It just is. I'm going to make a bold prediction
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Ramondre Stevenson will have a better year this year than
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: That's not that bold.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just That's why I kind of said it facetiously.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going on in a limb by
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: saying he's going to have better numbers and a better
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: year overall strategy course, of course.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: But that's a question I would tell you I'm not
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: sure of that average wise, Yeah, he missed whatever, what
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: was like the last six games something that. Yeah, Like,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: let's just say he plays all seventeen. Obviously his numbers
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: are going to be you know, his flat numbers, his totals, well.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Well, his averages.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: But I think he will be about what he was.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I think I think he kind of ague with Evan.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I think you've seen about what he marked my worst
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I just tape Evan.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: I'm kind of curious to dive into this a little
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: bit with you though, because I mean I like what
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: you say. I mean, you know, with like Saquon, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: some of the running back movement, we talk about that, Like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: do you think that that's all just bs? Like all
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: those teams are fooling themselves thinking that, like the Eagles
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: are gonna get a better version of Saquan or all
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: those guys kind of buying high on somebody who should
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: be on the back slope. I mean, you know what
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, do you extrapolate that to kind of the.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Rest There are definitely some arguments of like that it's
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: scheme dependent, right, So Saquon Barkley on the Giants was
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: the guy that everybody was game planning for every single week.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Now on the Eagles, he's gonna have Aj Brown on
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: one side, Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard, like there's gonna be
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: other weapons.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And a running thread at quarterback.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and a running thread at quarterback that there's gonna
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: be other weapons that maybe some of the attentions off
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: of him and his efficiency goes back up. The biggest
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: thing that we see with running backs in terms of production,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: outside of the lone exception right now currently being Christian McCaffrey,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: is that there's really no difference on a volume, you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: sort of stat metric level between Sakuon Barkley, Josh Jacobs,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you know, Aaron Jones, Romandre Stevenson, YadA, YadA, YadA, that
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: those guys are not adding anything to the table on
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: their own, whereas like, yes, they might be more productive
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: within the confines of an offense, because the Packers offense
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: is way better than the Patriots offense. But realistically, if
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you had put Ramondre Stevenson on last year's Packers offense
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: and Aaron Jones's role, he probably would have produced similar
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: numbers to what Aaron Jones produced, which is why this
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: offseason there's this musical chairs of like, oh, if you're
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: gonna take our guy, we'll just take your guy, because
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: they're all the same.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, maybe the Patriots
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: just wanted to stick with their own guy that they've
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: kind of been dealing with.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I'm fine with the contract and
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: the fact that they had no running backs. To Fred's point,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, if you could just snap
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: your fingers and.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Bringing somebody, you know, just bringing the guy. You know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: it's a good citizen. You know, there's intangibles that you're
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: not gonna get or you don't know that you're gonna
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: get with somebody from the outside. So I think it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a no harm hopefully contract hopefully no harm. Yeah. Yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And and you're getting a guy who I think is
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: really going to help the team, So let's do it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: And I think with Gibson being here too, that he
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: won't have so much of a load to carry by himself.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Not saying it didn't help him.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of times those loads happened
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: because of injuries. Yeah, that's the thing. That's always the thing.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I remember having discussions and old shows, Well they got
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: six guys at running back, how are they going to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: use them all? And people get hurt and they eventually
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: use them all.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: Well, that's what's concerning to me, just about having, you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: just two guys that are basically NFL proven players because
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: they always get hurt and at least in the past,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: you could say, you know, I think probably Hope is
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: running out for Kevin Harris, but you know, Pierre Woods
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: or Pierre Strong, sorry Peer Woods. Super Bowl forty two
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: was on the other night, which I ended up watching.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: That's a whole lot of story.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just on I just and like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and like it in all honesty.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: After the Brady night, I just feel like it's all
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: gravy and I'm like, this was great, Like, look at
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: this guy's going to eighteen and.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: One, you know, but.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: With some of these guys on the roster, I mean,
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: you know, Jamichael Hasty like is I mean, I don't
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: think it's hard to imagine that we're getting to a
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: point in October where like a big game out of
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: Jamichael Hasty tonight because Romandra got hurt or Gibson got hurt,
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: and you're quickly into this unproven depth and it's not
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: even like you have a couple of rookies to say, well,
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: you know, and then usually that's fool's gold anyway, I'll
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: just throw the rookie in. But still, at least you
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: you know, a couple years ago you had two young
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: running backs.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Have you gone? JJ Taylor? Yeah?
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: Right, I know, no, right, And even he got thrown
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: into things a little bit a couple of years ago.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hasty does have some experience too. And then this
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: is like the running back is the anti wide receiver
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: for the Patriots. The receivers they have, you know, a
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: couple of young guys that are promising, a couple of
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: veterans who've been around, a couple of veterans who are
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: looking to shake off disappointment, and then they have like
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: four or five like unknown like undrafted rookies, and like
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: they have everything. There's like twelve of them running back.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: There's nobody even like there's no even names on the roster.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: It's it's Stevens.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: There's like five I think there's five total, yeah, May six,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Fenwick In, Jennings, Terrell, jennings in, Deshaun Fenwick or the two.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: But I picked him nobody right now, but I picked
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: him as one of my my possible you know, undrafted
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: free agents. Because of that, I think there's opportunity. But
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: just the last usually you have, you know, four or
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: five guys you don't know anything about. Maybe one of
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: them will flash. They have literally two guys that you
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: don't know anything about.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: So I want to get into some NFL things too.
• 24:49
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• 25:01
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• 25:06
  Speaker 2: don't know. Fireworks, Yeah, we had them in our town
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Saturday night. Poor dog had a hard night.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Aren't the fireworks tonight here?
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: At Foxborough?
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you can catch fireworks after the Revs
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: tomorrow night.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And while you're here, it's easy to drink, it's easy
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to enjoy. But like the official beer sponsor Patriots, uh so,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little bit about we
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: were two weeks ago, we were talking about the quarterback
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: contracts and how they've kind of gone crazy. Why haven't
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys signed Dak Prescott yet, or you know, extend
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna defer to Evan that he's the DA guy.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. Are they waiting for something or
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: are they just have cold feet, Jerry Joe cold.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Feet Unless there's the only possible thing that I can
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: come up with is that they know something about Dak's
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: personality behind the scenes.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Whatever is he going to be out there next year?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Is he going to be available for a team next year.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's possible.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: I could see a Kirk Cousins type of thing happening
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: to Dak next year.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: There's nothing on the field, yeah, other than what Paul
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: will probably say about winning in.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: The playoffs, but there's not. I think that's a big thing.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: There's nothing on the film though about him as an
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: actual quarterback and the plays that he makes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Cadence though, that's that's kind of it that suggests he's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: not worth I expect him to sign. I expect too
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to sign, but I do think there's probably some cold
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: feet for Dallas.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but also, you can't I feel like you can't
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: use the winning in the playoffs thing, because what has
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence done that he got his contract.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: You know, because well he's younger. Dak already got that, right,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: he's Trevor's now this is his first contract after being
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: a rookie. You know, Dak has been out there longer.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You know, this is now his third count will be
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: his third cut.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: But also, I'm like, you're not going to get a
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: top four draft pick to draft a quarterback next year.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: And also we talked about last show that the quarterbacks
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: next year aren't even that great, so you might as
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: well just keep Dak.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But it's it's going to be a big money I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: think that will happen.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: I do.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I think that will happen.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But they're believe it or not, they're rolling the dice
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that if he can't get us over the hump when
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: he's missed games in the recent past, they've won with
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: a guy named Cooper Rush. So if that's all it
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: takes to just win without winning in the playoffs, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: we're not winning in the playoffs, why are we paying
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: him fifty five million a year.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: It's the top ten quarterback in the league.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I I sort of agree with you.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I would pay I would pay him the money because
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I think you can do a lot worse. But that
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: would be the augument on the other side. I'm trying
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to play a little debt to her. John I think
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: he does. I think you said yes with cold feet.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Do you think they're a fill in position away from
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: winning or is it all because of DAK they're winning.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's all because of the coach. Well, but
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that's honest. I think the coach is a problem.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: But last year, in that playoff game, DAK sucked and
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: they fell behind because DAK sucks, But the first half of.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: The yached on both sides of them.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, they absolutely did. See I That's what I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: was gonna say. You can't blame it on his supporting cast.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: They have enough play, they have enough players to but
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the coaching has been an issue.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: They did a really really good job schematically with that
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: offense last year. They especially the second half of the
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: season when they really started to take off. I'll give
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: McCarthy credit for the x's and o's, like, hey, they tried,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: they did some different things and they were able to
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: get the offense. But in game, you know, big games
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: like that, you know, when the chips are in the middle,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: like he just McCarthy just seems to get a little
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: bit of a Do.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: You think that Jerry Jones would be willing to keep
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Dak but switch the coach or do you think he's
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: just like Jerry Jones.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You know, everyone talks about him being you know this
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: this guy that you're always on the hot seat. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it takes him a long time to make change.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: But you know why that is, because why he surrounds
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: himself with bobo's. Well, yeah, that's if he wants the
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: bobo that's bowing at his feet. I agree, that's why
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: he doesn't fire.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: That's why. But this is it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: If they don't win a playoff game this year, there's
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: no way McCarthy, he's a lamb ducky your coach right now.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Do you think a guy like Bill is someone they
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: would go after you be like, okay, we're.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Bringing Bill for absolutely. I said it before, and I
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: don't know this for sure, but I think that they
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: made offers to him or showed their interest last year.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: And I think Bill because of his head coach, you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the fraternity of being in the head coach said you've
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: got a head coach, I'm not going to talk to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you until you don't have a head coach. I'm not
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: going to disrespect a fellow head coach by doing something
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: back door while he's still there. He'd never do anything
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: like that, no, listen, I think and I think Bill
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: has shown. Bill has shown there's certain areas where he
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: has a lot of principle uh, and I think this
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: is one of them. Like, I'm not going to disrespect
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: a head coach by doing something. If you want, if
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you're gonna fire him and you have a vacancy, I'd
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: be happy to talk. And so in the case where
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: next year, if they do get rid of them, I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: think the I think they would talk to Bill, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I think Bill would, especially if they're gonna resign Dak
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: because now it's like our windows open. We've got to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: do it now. Bill's not gonna be here for long term.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: We're we're signing this guy to be our head coach
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to win Now. I think it's the equivalent of bringing
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: in a high price free agent at wide receiver just
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to get you over the hump.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: It makes it makes a lot of sense to me,
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: And I mean, I find myself too, wondering how you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: various people in the league might view Bill after this
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: spring where you know, he kind of he came off
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: well in the roast, he came off well in Brady
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: and I you know, he's kind of making the rounds
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: Like I just I wonder if that's gonna have any
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: impact on kind of brushing aside alas.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Has a very good cheerleading squad.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know, we could go to so I know
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: you're making a joke, but I'm out there, but I
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: think you're naive if you think that's not going to
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: negatively impact him.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I think I think you're right, I think, but knowing
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: these owners and how the dogs that they are, maybe
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: not Paul, and they don't want it public. No, they
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: don't want it public. But that's public. Yeah, I know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I know, But like they can understand where Bill's coming from.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I'm not telling you.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not understand where you're coming from. I'm not telling
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you that these owners, particularly that one like thanks worse
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: of Bill BELLI I'm not sorry, But they think very
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: highly of the public perception I know, and they're fiercely
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: protective of that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I agree, and I don't think they want to bring
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: that in. Knowing we bring that in, who.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Knows, maybe this time next year they'll be married, and.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: You know, is that better or worse than what's going
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: on now?
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I can we bring it back to football because I'm
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: not I'm not touching now with a ten football. The
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: real question to Bill, to me is who's your offensive coordinator?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: And how involved are you going to be on that
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: side of the ball. If it's Josh with Dak, I'm in.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: But Josh is running the offense, oh yeah?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Like and Bill would have no problem with that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would think. I mean, by all accounts,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: multiple reports, you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Could have Dak Prescott Josh. Yeah, you know.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I just that's gotta be the first thing Bill does
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: his trade trade Mike apart. I didn't have a guy
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: with that much.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I just wonder how he put a staff together.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: I mean it was it was so small here, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: there's so few guys that he appears to trust. A
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: lot of guys have jobs now. How Like Josh is
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: an easy one, but does he really get the whole
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: band back together with Maddy p A lot.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Of his guys don't have to figure it out.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: His like six guys that don't have jobs right now,
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: that's his staff, like because he doesn't want to try
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: anybody new or anything like that does more with less.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: That was the rumor when he was on the coaching
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: carousel with the Falcons and stuff like, that was the
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Belichick All Pro staff. It was gonna be Bill Belichick
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: head coach, McDaniels, O C, Patricia d C, Joe Judge,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: special teams and they were going to bring the band
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: bat together.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But listen, and again, it's for when Now it's it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: a short term fix for Dallas.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I would just worry, and I love Josh,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: So if McDaniels is the answer, then maybe it's less worrisome.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: But you can't watch the Patriots offense till his last
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: couple of years here and not be a little bit
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: concerned about what he would do with that side of
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: the ball.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: So then Paul brought it up closer to home. Tua,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: what's the situation in Miami?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You know, I know that he
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: is a little antsy. There was a report I think
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Omark Kelly had it. I forget one of the Miami
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: guys just that that he had admitted that he's you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: it's something he wants TUA and he's a little antsy
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that that hasn't gotten much a little security. Yeah, so
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: he's playing on the fifty year option, which I understand,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: like Miami would say, she's that would be great because
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that's like basically half the going rate. But then you
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: run the risk of how does he play. Some guys
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: play lights out when they're in a contract year, So
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: some guys get completely freaked out by it. And I
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: don't think you want your quarterback with anything else on
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: his mind.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Especially with his injury. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I would give Yeah, that's the true for everybody. Last year,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: McDaniel needs to win. So if to Paul's point, if
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: to his head is in a outer space because of
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the contract situation, mcdan's.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Gonna get fired.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I expect that to happen. I expect him to both
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: both both Prescott and to I think we'll get their
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: extensions at some point, you know, I would say before
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the start of the season, maybe when camp opens or
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: around that time.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Bigger odds to lose their job McCarthy in Dallas or
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: McDaniel in Miami. McCarthy.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Ary McCarthy is Alex Corra right now, one year left
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: on his deal.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I agree with with Evan that you have another eleven
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: and six year and don't do anything down the stretch.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: McDaniel will feel some heat, but I don't think he's
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: gonna go. McCarthy can go, you know, eleven twelve wins
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: in the regular season. If he doesn't win a playoff game.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: He's out.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: He is gonna I mean, I think he's definitively gonna
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: be out. Andy's a lame duck as it is.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Right, there's so much talent on that team.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it's so weird to see two
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: teams with so much talent and not be able to
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: do anything with it. Where you're like over here at
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: the Patriots, you would kill to have some of those players.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Miami doesn't have nearly Dallas' talent, like on both sides
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: of the boat. Now they have like the high the
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: high flyers like Hill and Waddle are tremendous. They don't
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: have the kind of talent that that Dallas has, though
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: they don't have a Micah Parsons on defense, McCarthy, I'm
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: with Evan like, I think McCarthy's kind of a bozo.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: And he's a with all the stuff that we talk
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: about with Kyle Shanahan. It's like kind of in the
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: same category of just like managing the game, calling the game,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: like seeing in the big picture and not getting caught
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: up in your play sheet, like time management, like all
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. It's just I think he's a
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: good offensive mind, but I don't know if he's a
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: good head coach.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: The big thing that Miami has to do this year,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: whether they win ultimately in January or not, they have
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: to find a way to become more consistent at the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: end of the year. This is like two years in
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: a row now they've shot out like a cannon and
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: then peter to the finish line and weren't really ready
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: to play in the playoffs. Now, you can make an
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: excuse for them this past year and really extreme conditions
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: in Kansas City, but that doesn't excuse losing at home
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: in a Monday night game to Tennessee in December.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: That was a bad loss.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: They did not play as well down the stretch as
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: they did the first three months, and that's a trend.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And to Evan's point that gets attached to the coach
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and that puts him on the hot seat.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And it's a trend with.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of those types of coaches, with the offensive coaches,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: because all off season there in the lab coming up
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: with all this crazy stuff that they're gonna throw at defenses,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: and then you get into the second half of the
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: season and everybody starts to catch up. You know, you
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: put a lot of it on film, and now all
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, the defensive coaches get paid two. And
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: it used to happen with Andy Reid all the time.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: The greatest offense I ever saw for a whole season
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: was the Patriots and seven, and that happened. Even to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: that offense. It wasn't as productive down the stretch. It's
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: because it was the first three months.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: True.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just watched the World forty two again and
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: that can confirm, can confirm.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, but that you did.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: But they won a game like twenty to ten against
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: the Jets in December that year.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like Lawrence Moroni, all of a sudden.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: They you know, even in the playoff games, it was
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: like twenty one to thirteen or whatever it was against
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: San Diego twenty one to twelve. I think it was
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was a two score game, you know, like I know that,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: you know, you're like twenty one.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: That's not so bad. But they were scoring.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Thirty eight every game seven, right, you know they they
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: had like sort of lost two touchdowns of product off
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: of their their offense and down the stretch.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: You could just see when Eli came off that first drive, like.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: They never got into a rhythm. Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I kinda yell at him.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Why were you living this? There was nothing else on?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: What are we going to do? Watch the Celtics parade?
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's much happier.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Eight five five pass five hundred is the a stick
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and hotline. Eight five five pass five hundred web radio
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: at Patriots dot Com is the email address.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: So, Fred, are you interested in buying the Celtics at all?
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put in a h well, I think a
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: group together get an offer.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: No, you know, not owning the building is a big thing.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, but you could buy I remember the Crafts
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: were looking into Liverpool before John Henry uh bought it
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: in uh at the time. You know, first it was
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: building a new stadium was a big issue, and then
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: not having a salary cap in the e PL was
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: you know we're out. Yeah I remember that. Yeah, but
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, not owning your own statedium. Now
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: everyone says that like, oh, if you have the Celtics,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: you have to have you know, your own facility. But
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know the deal that the Celtics have with
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the Jacobs and Delaware North. I mean, it could be
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: such a sweetheart deal where they're not paying any rent
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and they're getting a piece of all revenue that comes
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: in during their games. I don't know that to be true,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: but if that is true, maybe maybe it sound like
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: a Jacobs thing and I think events of the thing
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that you yeah, right, but maybe they have a great
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: deal where it's not such a bad thing that they
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: don't own that facility. I don't know that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: But look at all the money we make on all
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: the you know, the concerts season and everything. I can't
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: imagine Jacobs is sharing that with.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I'm just talking about for our game,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: you know, Celtics games.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: They get to the Celtics games, they probably make some money,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: but yeah, there's so many laws. That's a huge amount
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: of revenue lost.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, are people saying that someone might buy the Celtics
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: and not play them at the Garden anymore and make
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: their own facility.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Well that might be. I didn't mean to call it
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the garden. I know it's not really the gen but
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that, you know, comparing the uh,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you know, the contracts that the Celtics are gonna have
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to pay by next year into twenty six compared to
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: this NFL salary cap. NFL salary caps like what to
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: sixty yeah, something like that, and the Celtics are gonna
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: pay paying close to half a billion dollars in salary
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: for twelve guys. That's crazy, right, So it's crazy. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: get it, it's eighty two games. But still, yeah, I think.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: One of the things not to go on the whole
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: thing about the selics. But I do find that, like
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: this part of it pretty fascinating because from a business standpoint,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Wick Rosspec is losing money because the roster is just
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: getting incredibly expensive. The Celtics are now going to be
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: a second Apron team starting next year, so the luxury
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: tax bill is going to be incredibly expensive. And Wick
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Rosspeck is not the richest man in the world, Like he's.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Got a lot of money liquidity.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not. He's not a billionaire, so he
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: doesn't have you know, Saudi money. He doesn't have you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Walmart money, Like, he doesn't have that kind of money.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So just realistically, and they don't know in the stadium,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: so there's no revenue stores from the stadium, So realistically,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: he can't afford the team anymore. In a long term, yeah, play,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: he can't afford the team anymore. So he doesn't really
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: have a choice. Like I think a lot of people
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: are like, oh, he's selling high. In five years, he's
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: gonna be bankrupt, but he can't afford it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Let's just say, I
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: know you can't have it, but let's just say an
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: n NBA team had every one of their players on
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: a max contract. Whatever that adds up to. Are we
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: saying that in the NBA, your TV revenue and all
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: the revenue that you get tickets and all that doesn't
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: pay for that, and that any NBA owner with a
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: high payroll has to dip into their own pocket.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying in the NBA for the
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: most part, But they're hoping that that's not the case
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. Right, they're hoping, so they have there
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: there's a new TV deal that's kicking in in like
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: a year or two that is supposed to be three
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: times with resemble an NFL style TV package. That's gonna
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: do what you're doing, you know you're saying in terms
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: of paying the contracts, but it's it's not the NFL,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: so it's not gonna be quite as much money. But
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: the bigger problem, like for the Celtics is that so
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: they don't own the stadium, so that's not a big
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: revenue source. And the regional sports networks like NBC Sports
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Boston are our creator, right, So for the NBA, really
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the only hope that they have to really make teams
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: super super profitable other than selling, is probably to go
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: to NFL style where it's like four stations have all
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: of the games and you just regionally you get we
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: get the Celtics because we're in Boston and you know whatever.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: So that being the case, why are the Celtics valued
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and I don't know where this comes from, end like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: five billion dollars that's NFL valuation. Why without you know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I can understand NFL valuations because it's stadium, it's TV revenue.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It's all that stuff that all you do is roll
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: out of that and you make that money if you're
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: an NFL owner. I get that valuation. Why are the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Celtics so high?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Well, they do have they do have a lot of
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: brand recognition, they have the iconic Yeah, okay, Celtics, it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: a it's a good question.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I think they actually a false valuation. I think it's low.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: And from listening to people talk about it, Daniel Daniel
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Dan whi's the sports Uh Dan Daniel Kaplan?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Is that his name?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, sports Business Journal Dan Dan Kaplan, that's his name, right. Yeah.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I heard him talking about that this morning a little
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: bit as I was driving in and he said he
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: felt like it. You know, it's hard to know these
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: things are there's a lot of estimating that goes into
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: these valuations. But if he had to guess, it's probably
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: a little low. But it's going to change because of
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: the stuff that Evan talked about with the aprons and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: the taxes. Not every team has guys that are on
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: these max deal, Like the max isn't the same for everybody,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Like Jason Tatum's MAX is higher than Jalen Brown's MAX
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: because of his all LAA and accolades in the past
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: when he when he got the accolades. That's why his
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I think he's like three fourteen and Jalen Brown's is
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: two eighty five. So and I know that sounds ridiculous, like, oh, well, well,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: j what's thirty million?
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: You know, But they're they're on the hook for six
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: hundred million, and that's guaranteed money. That ain't NFL money
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: where it's like in two years you can you can
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: offload the contract. Right, they are on the hook for
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: six hundred million dollars for two guys. I don't even
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: think Wick grossbec is worth six hundred million dollars by himself, right,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: So they're they're just in a situation where now to
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: own an NBA team, you're gonna have to have NFL
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: owner money.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: But I would also say that what are they gonna
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: pay Pritchick.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: They're gonna pay him in a strict sense of the
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: word what Evan said, probably about this year, I could
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: see a scenario that maybe they didn't make money. I'd
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: like to see the books before I accept that as gospel.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: But I and see that based on like the bump
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: in Jalen Brown's contract and the taxes. But for the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: greater part of twenty years, he made a lot of
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: money because they didn't have this kind of payroll for
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: the vast majority of that the Bridge Celtics, the little
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: engine that could that they would go into the Eastern
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Conference finals every year. They made a lot of money
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: on that team. They didn't have these guys on max contracts.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot more built up over
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: the twenty years or whatever fifteen years.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Something's happening, because a lot of happened, a lot of
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of owners are going for the lifeboats in
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: that league, especially Yeah, Mark Cuban. Yeah, a lot something's
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: brewing in the NBA where people business people.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Like and Mark Cuban are looking at Hi last out,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: the Wolves, the even Michael Jordan did the same thing
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: with with Charlotte.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: So this been.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I think there's like six NBA teams that in the
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: last couple of years.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Paul, did you not get any food? This is uncomfort.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Can't relation it right now. Just Fred's I mean, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: just want to know what Fred's gonna say. Wow, all right,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: say it anyway, I'll still throw you on I PSI no, no,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm always fair Fred's Foods here, so
• 46:10
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  Speaker 6: Let's check out a snippet from the latest episode of
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: The Patch from the Past with Brian Hoyer.
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: What was your first impression when you met tom You know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: I pretty much introduced myself in the weakest nerdiest form
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: and fashion when he came up, I said, mister Brady
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: Matt Castle. Because you know, it's an intimidating environment, right,
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: and this guy just came off three Super Bowls. You
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: don't know how to like Normally you go up and say, hey,
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: what's going on, man, Nice to meet you. I just
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: completely geeked out. Well with a mister Brady, He's like, hey, Bud,
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: don't call me that, call me Tommy. I was like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: he might have me cut tomorrow based on the fact
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: that he doesn't want to be in the room with
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: somebody like a but no, he was incredible from the jump.
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: I mean we got in there, and then soon thereafter,
• 48:15
  Speaker 10: as we started to get into the work outs that offseason,
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: he's noticed that, Look, I was one of those workout
• 48:21
  Speaker 10: warriors too. I like to go in there. I like
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: to work out, and he's like, hey, you want to
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: work out with me. So he kind of took me
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: under his wing at that point, and from that point
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: on for the next four years, we worked out every
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: day with each other. We were in every meeting. But
• 48:32
  Speaker 10: for me, it was just incredible to watch the professionalism
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: day in and day out, and his leadership. And it
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: was not just with his words, but it was with
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: his actions. It's how he took care of himself, it's
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: how he interacted with his teammates, how he treated one
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: guy because he thought he could get the most out
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: of this guy like Welker, for instance, he could yell
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: at him all day long and Welker would just continue
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: to go, you know. And then there's other guys that
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: maybe like a rainy Moss, that he'd sit there in
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: the locker her after practice and just have a general
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: discussion about stuff because he how how he approached people
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: was different based on their personality and the relationships. So
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: it was just a masterclass in being a professional quarterback.
• 49:13
  Speaker 10: And then to watch what he did week in and
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: week out was just astounding.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: So you get to be part of that room with
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: you know, the best that's ever done it, and you
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: also get to be coached by a guy who a
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: lot of people think is the best who's ever done it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: What do you remember about Bill specifically? But and I
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: know Matt and I tell talk about that story that
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I think you talked about in the Dynasty documentary about
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: him calling your mom.
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, right about being a dumb ass because I
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: missed the corner blitz that was my rookie year.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the last preseason game.
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: I didn't see the week corner blitz, which, hey, they
• 49:47
  Speaker 10: were pretty sneaky about it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: This guy's as well. But he definitely called me out
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: in the meeting the next day.
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: He's like, you know, Matt, let's make sure we go
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: through the fronts and check the corner blitz so I
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: don't have to call your mom and tell her hear
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: this is castle. We're sorry your son's in the hospital
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: because he's a dumb ass and from the whole team.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, yep, I deserve that one. But Bill,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Bill was.
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: He was incredible because he pushed you to limits that
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: you didn't know that you could go, and he got
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: the best out of each of his players.
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: But I always respected about Bill was he had you
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: better prepared for.
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: Any situation, situationally speaking, also just game readiness than I've
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: ever been around. And part of that was even on Tuesdays,
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: taking the time out of his day. On a Tuesday
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: or off day, we'd come in, we'd meet with him,
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: and you've probably heard the story. We sit down, go
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: through every personnel and their defensive back end, safeties, corner strengths, weaknesses,
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: summarize who they are, then even maybe a potential matchup
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: on linebackers, talk about the defensive coordinator and also his
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: lineage and where it came from. Then we'd watch film
• 50:49
  Speaker 10: on all these guys. So by the time you came
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: in on Wednesday, you're rolling. You understand why we're implementing
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: certain past schemes and concepts, who we're trying to attack on,
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: specific crowds who are trying to take advantage of And
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: so you just had this you had this confidence going
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: into game week understanding why we're doing certain things, and
• 51:09
  Speaker 10: there was never that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: Wait, what are we doing? And if there was, it
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: was answered right and so. And the other thing I.
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: Always appreciated about Bill was he he was always held
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: everybody to the same standard of accountability. It wasn't like
• 51:24
  Speaker 10: a if you're this guy and your big name, you're
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: you're off limits. And I've been around that that type
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: of program before too. No, it was look, if you're
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: Tom Brady or if you're a free agent, it doesn't matter.
• 51:36
  Speaker 10: If you've messed up, I'm gonna call you out. We're
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: gonna correct it here. It might not be something that
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: you know, everybody everybody's cup of tea like to sit
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: there and get it in the meeting room, but at
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: the same time it's set us level of expectation and
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: a standard for everyone.
• 51:52
  Speaker 11: Paul mentioned the room, Matt, and so your rookie year
• 51:54
  Speaker 11: is three time Super Bowl champ Tom Brady, right, Your
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: offensive coordinator who wasn't a coordinator by name is Josh McDaniels.
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: At that time, because Charlie had just right, Charlie.
• 52:04
  Speaker 11: Just like and ninety seven year old, not kinny, but
• 52:08
  Speaker 11: with the mullet, Doug Flutie.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Dougie, what was that quarterback room like that?
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: It was?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: It was wild.
• 52:14
  Speaker 10: Actually, when I first got here, there was five guys
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: on that depth chart. So they put up the depth
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: chart and I'm going, gosh, I got.
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: Some work to do.
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: It was Tom Brady, Rohan, Davy, Doug Fluteie, Chris Redman,
• 52:24
  Speaker 10: and then myself. I was like, man, these are a
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: lot of veterans and I am a low man on
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: this totem pole. But the cool part was as it
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: all worked out, you know, I was able to establish
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: some credibility there in preseason and make the team.
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: But then Doug was there. And Doug was hilarious because
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: Doug was forty one, right, he's forty one. He almost
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: had a daughter that was my age.
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: He would drive into the facility and have this huge
• 52:48
  Speaker 10: trans am with this eagle on the front of it,
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: like living in the eighties. Oh he's beautiful and he's
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: like a little kid though. He would talk about his heart.
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: He playing this hardball baseball league on the weekends. He'd
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: go down the fin way all the time, the shagg
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: balls with his glove. With his glove, I mean he
• 53:06
  Speaker 10: loved it, and so the stories were just unbelievable day
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: to day. And the only time that it really started
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: to see his age where when those night meetings hit
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: And sometimes you kind of look over and you're like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: is done nodding off right now?
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: I think he might be.
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: He's like, gosh, I feel you now. I'm forty two
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: and I'm sitting there. I can't believe he was still
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: playing at that time.
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: I remember this, and you're never going to remember this.
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: You remember the drills, but I remember doing a story
• 53:32
  Speaker 11: video story because I was intrigued. Who am I'm a moron?
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: But every game pregame, Castle and Flutie yep would do
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: this contest, an accuracy contest, where they'd be sitting there
• 53:43
  Speaker 11: and they'd try to hit the goalposts the crossbar.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that, and it was so cool.
• 53:48
  Speaker 11: To see you guys like really competitive, like, hey, these.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Might be the only throws are gonna get all.
• 53:53
  Speaker 11: We get really into it, and was it just it
• 53:56
  Speaker 11: was an accuracy test.
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: There was an accuracy test, so you tried to hit
• 53:59
  Speaker 10: the crossbar. We'd start the fifteen yard line. Go back
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: to twenty twenty five thirty. I think we might have
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: even got to about the forty is when we and
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: whoever whoever collectively hit the crossbar from all those spots
• 54:10
  Speaker 10: one and we do it before every game. It was
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: just a fun little ritual and it was something that
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: he just is like, hey, cast you, let's play, and
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: I was like.
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: All right, let's do it. And then it started to
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: become a tradition where we did on every pregame, we'd
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: go out there and throw.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: So most Patriots fans would probably say that the most
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: memorable thing that Fluti did was the game that he had,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: you know, the drop kit, right, Yeah, so that game
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: is really memorable for Matt and I also because you
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: played a big role on it at the end, right,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I did so that that finale against Miami, I'm trying.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I'm trying, guy.
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: You I can set it for you too.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: He can speak for himself too, but I just it was.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: You know, sort of playoff seating at play.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: And I know that Bill Belichick would never.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe intentionally not want to win the game, but it
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: certainly seemed we tied the game into like the last
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: minute or it was you took him and the two
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: point conversion to tie the game. Well, oh, yeah, see,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't remember Bam children No.
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: But the other thing is that I remember because I
• 55:09
  Speaker 11: was remember looking at the tape. Is the sideline tape
• 55:13
  Speaker 11: is they score immediately they bring the huddle over the
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: field and there's Bill and there's you know, Tom and
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: everything they're talking about. And it's like, yeah, it's obvious
• 55:23
  Speaker 11: that there's they want to talk about this, and it's
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: not like necessarily, what's the best player to score here?
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: No?
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: You know what the interesting part was was it was
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: a two point play that we had practiced. It was
• 55:34
  Speaker 10: it was a go on the outside and Bam was
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: supposed to set him up, stab inside and come out,
• 55:38
  Speaker 10: and it was a sprint out and they basically were
• 55:40
  Speaker 10: having a conversation.
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: You like this play.
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: I was like, let's go for it because we knew
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: that they were going to pressure us, right, because that
• 55:46
  Speaker 10: was Saban's mentality, and so it was more of a
• 55:49
  Speaker 10: movement play instead of sitting back there and having to
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: throw like a fade rout or something.
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: And he was my number one read and I'll tell
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: you what. I came out.
• 55:55
  Speaker 10: I saw him wide open, and my eyes got big,
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: and I sailed that ball and everybody still this day,
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: says coach Belichick. You know our seatings were going to true.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: Tell us the truth, throw it over his head. No,
• 56:05
  Speaker 10: he honestly called that play to score. I don't think
• 56:09
  Speaker 10: there was any part of him that did ever even
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: considered like, let's throw this away.
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: Hed never said that. To me.
• 56:16
  Speaker 11: That's a good soldier.
• 56:18
  Speaker 12: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes. Oh No,
• 56:23
  Speaker 12: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery.
• 56:26
  Speaker 12: Everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where
• 56:30
  Speaker 12: now mean's next for residential delivery only?
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: And now great moments in.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: History. But that's my point. But they didn't. I think
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Levy was caught the wave there. He had a great team,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: great person you know, great players. They were oh my
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: whoa sorry who. It was unnecessary one forever that came
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. They were. They were loaded. We'll get
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: that on post. Put that on post.
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: That's another great moment.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, dude, so are you hosting for the fourth of July? No,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're doing anything. Actually, Fred, If you are,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: there's always room for one more. When you snag sectional,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: snag a sectional, So I guess that's a sofa, right, Yeah, Yeah,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: there's always room for one more when you snag a
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: sectional during Bob's Discount Furniture for Fourth of July. So
• 57:31
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• 57:42
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• 57:46
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• 57:49
  Speaker 2: the Fourth with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: of the New England Patriots. I'm looking for outdoor cushions,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: so Bob, if you're listening, you help me out that
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: are completely waterproof. I mean just pressure washing them. Water
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't get out because the cushions I have, now you
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: have a heavy rain like we've had lately, and they
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: get full of water and you have to tilt them
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: upright and wait for the water to drain out and
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. I want one waterproof outdoor cushions. So
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I looked them up. They're expensive. They're like one hundred
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: and fifty to two hundred dollars per cushion, plus you
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: probably have to get them custom fit to your furniture,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: like furniture is pretty stand Yeah, but that's I need
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Bob hooked me up.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: I feel like with that though, I would pay that
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: much for it because I feel like it'd be right.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: But so I have a couch that has three cushions
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: and three backs. Then I have two chairs that have
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: a cushion in a back. Oh, so that's that's six nine, No,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: six eight ten. So I need ten cushions. A that's
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: over one thousand dollars and cushions. Do you have a cover?
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I have a cover. I have a cover, but I
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: don't put it on until after the summer is over.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I put it to take the cover on and off
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: every time it rains. I just wanted to put the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: cover on your furniture every night. It's like a ritual,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: like lowering the pretend this TJA bugle while you're doing it.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: It takes like literally thirty seconds. It's right out.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Is probably in the backyard because you probably haven't Yes,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: it's not in the front of an expansive like you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: probably in the acres. You probably have to take the
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: golf cart out to the furniture. I just have a
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: little deck off, you know, off the back, and there's
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: a sectional. Yeah, like a l Yeah, so the cover
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: just goes over it. It takes fifteen seconds. And if
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: it rains that night, I have my cushions.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Don't get I have a cover for everything. I have
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: a cover for the table.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: But I'm not doing that about a cushion box, just
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: a box for your cushions to store your cushion and
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: then they stay to a box.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: I said, it's ten cushions. Yeah, it's a lot of cushions.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: A lot of cushion for the shed. Eat a shed.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's where the stuff goes in the I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: would just rather haveave it all out in the winter too.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: No, I put covers over it. Yeah. See you got
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: to bring it inside and protect that. Bring one inside.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: All the furniture where am I gonna put it?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Evidently someone has a lot more furniture out there than like.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I said, I have a couch, cushions, I have two
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: big shares, and I have like a coffee table. I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: put it all goes away in the winter. I don't
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: want it exposed to the elements, right, prolonged the life
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like you're gaving all your stuff out
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: all year long. You should just pay the one hundred
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: But it's waterproof enough, I don't know. I mean you're
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: leading like all conditions right ice and like I have
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: this it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Should be like high bar table with barstools, you know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: and that when they get wet, it's it's tough because
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: the water you don't know, it's wet, you know, and
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden you sit down, like you have
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: to like dump it and all the waters out because
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: it's all that.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Wicker, you know, kind of too much. I don't know
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: what it's called a lot of wicker hate. You don't
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: like the wicker. You don't like the way. You don't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: know from where you're a would guy or metal. You're
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: a wood would so you're actual.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: So your Adirondack chairs, there's chairs are actually fully plastic.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: There's nothing less comfortable than an Adirondack chair.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: No, there's a good spot. There's nothing less comfortable to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: sit in now I know. And those get beat up
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: to and get up from. Yeah, like if you've had
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: a few, if you've had a few bud lights, you're
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: trying to get up from an adiron deck.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: It's oh, it's easy if you're drinking bud Light because
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: it's easy to drink, easy to enjoy, and easy to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: get out of an Adirondack chairs.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Another part of that, thank you Mike. All right, Fred
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: looked at me like, where are you going with this?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: I want to circle back to a conversation and actually
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: put Evan on blast. We didn't finish our July fourth
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: food conversation.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, screw out one. You know, Evan's anti fruit. Fred,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: he I heard that on the on the mix that
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Matt did. What do you mean you don't like fruit?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: Okay? First of all, I said this last week. We've
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: definitely had this conversation. We have definitely had this. You
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: w and I because we're you know, on the road.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: We talk about you know, right, what's for dinner?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Whatever? On strawberry hell no, yea, no, all fruit? All fruit.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: You're missing out on one of God's greatest gifts to us.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite fruit? What's your favorite sweet? Like like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: ice cream, cookie cake, pie, brownie?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know, probably I like them all. So it's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: kind of hard to you like sweet things.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, you like sweet things.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, but you said there was bad July fourth food.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I thought there are bad takes about July fourth.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: Oh so what's a bad take about July fourth food?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Hot dog not a sandwich? And if you think it's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: a sandwich.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I agree, But that's not a fourth of July take.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: That's just a yeah, it just comes out July.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden. I get see. I was with Samara.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought you had like very pacific jew's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: and don'ts for July food. Yeah, do you put out
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: a platter? No, I just don't make it have fruit
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So if you're having like a totally outdoor
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: thing with like a table with the food, it is
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: bad to like leave.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Food out there to get all your little screens, especially
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: if it's like any of your right put potato salad.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: You got about fifteen minutes, right, If you don't eat
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: it by then, it's gone.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Anything Mayo based or dairy based. Yeah, that's why you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: can have Italian subs. It's no mao, you know's yeah,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: it's ready to go. Just why it's the perfect sandwen
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: that's right. But when's the last time you had fruit? Oh?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: God, maybe like a couple of years ago.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Oh so what's that reason it wasn't like when I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: was funding.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: It's not like my my seafood take that. You can
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: yell at me the last.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Time your I tried some apple crisp, because, like I said,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: that's not really fruit.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's fruit and sugar. That's god.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: I just can't believe you into an apple or a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: peach or a pear, or.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Orange grapes like orange juice. It doesn't like watermelon and candalop.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't like that? Yeah, you don't like watermelon. I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: just think it's crazy that there's nothing better on the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: risk watermelon.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: Try to tell them you can make your breakfast a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: lot easier, but you just grab an apple, doesn't What are.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: You talking about? I'm not done perfect. So two years
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: ago you had some apple crisp, But that's not that's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: not a fair thing to judge fruit. But when's the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: last time you bit into a fresh, ripe piece of fruit?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Probably never?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you need to try that before you close
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: your mind to it. No, it's closed. Don't be closed mind. Literally,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: it's not as bad as you're more open minded to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the reminder steam it's in contract than you are fruit.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: That's not very I know.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: Do you drink smoothies ever? O, God, what that's like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: a bunch of fruit?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Do you like smoothies? Yeah?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Sure, see I love fruit, and I will have a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: smoothie from time to time.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: I don't love smooth very falling, very filling?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Are they very have a smoothie? Everybody? I don't know?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: I I also just have a I don't really like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: the I don't really like the big frozen drinks. Like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: me and Lane, we went to Paris than not real Paris,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: Vegas Paris and they give you like an Eiffel tower
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: full of like uh, strawberry dackery or something. But it's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: like frozen drink.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: That's different. I know it's different, but it's like next
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: week on vacation. I like making smoothies, but then you
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: have to clean up. You have to clean Yeah. I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: like a good smoothie, though the right day.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: There's nothing worse than Will Will and TJ making.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: So everybody keeps telling me.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: Like a bomb from the kitchen, you're missing out.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not because it's just like my I don't like it,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: so like my taste, Like you don't even know you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: like it, you haven't tried it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: I literally it's not as bad as it was when
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I was a kid. When I when I was a kid,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: I like would literally gag, like I get yeah, like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: it was that, like the smell.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Water is so good. I can't even fathom this taste.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Like some people don't like that grapes. I was a
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Brian college. I was a Brian college during training camp
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: when I developed an allergy to pitted fruit. And it's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: one of the saddest days of my life. How did
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: that happen? I don't know. I was eating a bullet
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: because back then we could eat with the players, so
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: we could go into the cap and take whatever we wanted.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: They had a whole fruit bar, so I would I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: would have a bowl of cherries. And I'm sitting back
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: at my desk in the classroom that we worked and
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, my mouth and my lips and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: my tongue started swelling up.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: That is so funny, the same thing, but the same
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: thing happened to me out that I just developed an
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: allergy to pitted fruits.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And I love cherries.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: I love plums. I love I have plum tree in
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: my backyard growing up. I love plums and I can't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: really eating like the pitted fruits of My throat gets
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: really itchy when when I eat it, so I try
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: to stay away from it. But but I think it's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: more the skin poll oranges, watermelon, cantalope, all of that stuff.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Oranges like they have like the people that to get
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: their peel and disgust.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: It's like the lobster of fruits. Too much.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: On the smell.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: He tweets, like an orange like it's a lobster. I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: even said too much work.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: He wouldn't even put like strawberries on top.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: But I wouldn't either because I don't really loves See
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: that's where I'll call on my team, Evan.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I don't like sweets with fruit, like, get the fruit
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: out of here. If I'm having.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: Apple pie, though.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: That's fruit.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of that is not fruit. A lot of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, like you know, the ala mode.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I like my pies, just the pie. I don't want
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: the ice cream, ice cream. Just just give me the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: apple pie. That's a vincent brisbee. Really he asked for
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: and asked they can put some ice cream. Give me
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: some of that apple pie adeuts, put some ice cream
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: on it. I'll a cart. Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: My controversial take would be pies in general, Like I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: don't really I don't I like cake, ice cream.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: Do you ever tried the apple pie with the cheese
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: on it?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: My dad wouldn't like that.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: My dad a big apple pie.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: That's to me, like an American. I don't really like
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: apple pie.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: You don't like apple pie? Ye, see that's that's the face.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I usually like pie. I'm okay with it.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: I'm not really a pie guy, though. Pie would be
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: in the bottom of like cookies, brownies that I would.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm kind of with you on the apple pie,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 7: but it's it's a quick fall off to that, like
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: and then I'm like like blueberry, and then then it
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: and then then where are we going?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Pumpkin? I like good pumpkin pie.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: It's all based on how much cream product I'm putting
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: on it, Like is there a bunch of whiped cream?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: That's not really what they're eating now. I don't like
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Boston Boston cream pie really pie. I know it's called
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: a pie, but that's the.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Only it's not really cream. It's custard. It's good though.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I like ace pots cake key lime pie every now
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: It's okay, But like I'm not getting a craving on
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: the weekend for like, hey, let's go for pie.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: I want would you go to July fourth side?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Uh? Like, obviously you get your Burger's dogs, potato salad
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: and and then salad. What's non meat category?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: Pasta salad, pasta salad, potatoes potatoes like mac salad I.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Can't get with. I don't like mayonnaise. The only problem
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: with corn in the cob is not really in season
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: in early July. Huh, it's a little messy. Yeah, it's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: so good though in like August, corn in the cob
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: is later in the I have a hard time eating
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: it too fresh corner of the cob.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, so are you a bad tooth?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Are you a mayo based pasta salad or oil based
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: pasta mayo?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Mao?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: I could go with either, Yeah, I could go, but
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: I think oil is better. Oil is better, I do.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I look fully to those conversations with Zoe again this
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: summer when he tells me to make it like a
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: baloney sandwich that I was like, well, who likes a
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: boloney sandwich?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I doesn't like a kid baloney and mustard, boney, cheese, mustard.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: All baloney is is a raw hot dog, right, nothing.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: I love baloney, not cook it. My mom used to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: being people. The kids still leave bolooney these days.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: Like I used that bloney sandwiches all the time when
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: I was a kid.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I like, I used to fry baloney. Yeah, it tastes
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: like a hot dog is good.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: That just gave me chills.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Preferred way to eat a hot dog boiled, steam lengthwise, grilled.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I think if you have the time and you're willing
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: to put the effort, grill is the way to go.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: Grilled or in the oven. Like if I'm not going
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: outside and put it on a baked bacon.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Baked hot hadntroversial takes.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's the closest thing the grilled I'm going
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: to get in my house if I.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Don't have Like so you broil it, yes, okay, so
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: not baked. You broil it, but you can put it
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: in a pan with butter and they come out good. Now, yeah,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: they come up great. And you put the bun in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: there too. Least I need pretty much any hot dog
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: like I like it.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: They're all it's all a special day. I'm like, oh
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: it's grilled today.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: You've already established it. Hot dogs raw. It tastes like
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Ballooney tastes like baloney.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: I did the same thing, Fred.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Alarm, Well they're not actually row Well, yeah, it's it's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: cooked meat.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: But lips and I feel like a lot of like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: they make them out of. It's a good great outdoors.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: You know what they may come out of. You need
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: to pass the hour here, shelter.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: It's all plasure, which means what the lips and a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 7: holes never touched the floor.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: It was blessed. It was blessed by a rabbi.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I feel like grilled is the best best
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: way for hot dogs. But if you go to like
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: a hot dog place, you know, like in New York
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: or something like that, they don't grill. It's usually in
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: the steamer.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: Right, they don't really do it anymore, but they used
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: to steam hot dogs and beers.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Have you ever, guys, have you ever had those?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: That's like if you go to to graze Papaya, they're
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: not grilling those hot dogs.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: I even do the five guys style where they slice
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: them in half and then on the hard top with
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: a little pressed, little crust.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Not bad mm hmmm.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: I think guys, sounds like they would have an elite
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: hot dog.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Ye all right, my wife gets him
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: every once in a while. From five guys eight five
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: five pass, they're excellent. Yeah, split down the middle eight
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: five five pass five hotline, web radio Patriots dot Com
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: as the email address. Let's get to some of these emails.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin, we're talking about maybe Bill going to Dallas,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: and he says, how much better than the other candidates
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: does Belichick have to be to make the owner okay
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: with having Patricia and Judge in the building.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 7: It's interesting. I mean, I I think Bill's going to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 7: get one more crack at it. I just think that,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 7: like Jerry Jones, it's the perfect example of somebody who just,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: you know it, all of a sudden becomes the whole
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: narrative of your team. And I think some team is
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: going to be willing to make that jump with you know, like,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: let's just what's the worst thing that can happen?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I kind of.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: Think that's the only option is McCarthy GM and head
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: coach coach Jerry's Do you think Bill would be okay
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: with not having control?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, at this point, says he would. I think after
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: a year he you know. I mean it probably would
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: if he went right into it would have been annoyed.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: But I think at this point it's like, just get
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: another chance and give you the team and just do
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: what you do, coach.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Get a good point, Mike.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: I think he probably has been humbled a little bit
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: by the fact that they weren't falling at his feet
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: to hire him.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's not it's not as big of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: a you know, it's not as daunting. You have less
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: time with the whole GM duties, more time with your
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: significant other. I don't know why it's okay to suddenly
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: do this.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: It's okay for him.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: She's very nice, great person. Seems to be a very
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: important part of his life. Was she a cheerleader though
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: with the Patriots? No, no, no, never. She's an old
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: soul Andrew in la He says, I'm from the future.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Two things I'd like to share with you. There's three
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: siblings that have a massive interest in fidelity investments, with
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: a combined net worth of fifty billion dollars. They're also
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: from Massachusetts, and they will be the next majority owner
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: of the Celtics. The Johnson Abigail Johnson. I don't know
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: if her dad's still but she's like, if not the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: most the wealthiest person mass she's like number two. So
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: the Johnson family is, but I don't I think they've
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: ever had any interest in sports. They've never had, you know,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: been in the talk of owning any team, So I'm
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: not sure that's their thing.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: You know, wouldn't that be the best if you were
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: super rich, wouldn't you just want to own a team
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 7: and just be annoying and if you're around the team constantly.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: But if you don't like sports, then no, you know
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: Wick is it from Worcester originally, but like same thing
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: as as mister Kraft. Like that's the dream, Like this
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: is your childhood team that you rooted for growing up
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: and now you own it. Like that's the coolest thing ever.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: Like that, that's like any sports fan. That's got to
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: be like the absolute pinnacle of sports fandom.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Could tailgate again, do whatever you want?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: Really go down into the gym, you know, you just
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: see that's my gym. I'm working out here too, guys.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, again, Like if you're a sports person, oh,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: it's it's the dream, you know, but not everyone is.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if the Johnsons are, Let's go
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: to the phones. Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad? Thanks
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: for holding on, Brad, Okay, he wasn't holding on. Matt
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: came all the way in here to get this thing going.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: How about Willem and Philam, Let's go Willem, what's up?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: What's up? Well, listen for it.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 13: I'm sorry.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: How you doing all right?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 13: Oh my god, I don't know what to say.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Hold on so long? You forgot?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 13: No, no, no, it's not that.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: No, it's just the team is.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 13: It's frustrates the hell out of me, you know, and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 13: just hand a lot of takes and stuff and things
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 13: don't make sense for me. I mean, maybe y'all can
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 13: clean the air for me on this one. I said
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 13: some things on Catch twin two. So now I'm gonna
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 13: bring this the pictures on filter face. You're right, Evan,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 13: Like you know, nobody wants to hear about far As
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 13: waiting for a vide receiver. I'm trying to be I'm
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 13: gonna try to keep this clean as possible because I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 13: really feel like Cussin's really bad. But I'm gonna try
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 13: to keep to keep this. I'm trying I'm gonna try
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 13: it for I know, because that's a lot of editing
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 13: for up there. All Right, So I mean we passed
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 13: up on Marvin Harrison, Junior, Roman D's A and Elik Neighbors. Yes,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 13: with common sense wise, yes we need a quarterback. I
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 13: get that we got Drake May done so now because
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 13: Ellien Wolf messed up with that third pick and when
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 13: got tackled. Instead of go ahead and go get what
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 13: Patrick Paul Wright did with the second pick, but you
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 13: go get Jim and Pope. Okay, I know y'all praising
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 13: Ellien Wolf like he did the greatest job in all season. Now,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 13: I don't think so. I don't especially in the off season.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 13: In terms of free agency. Yes, you brought back the court,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 13: you spend money, congratulations, but you did a horrible job
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 13: in terms of bringing in blue chit talent. The only
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 13: person that might stand out might be what Antonio Gibson. Okay,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 13: and here's another take for you too, while I'm at that. Okay,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 13: Evan wants to wait till twenty twenty five or twenty
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 13: twenty six or whenever to get a receiver. You do
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 13: have an owner named mister Kraft, right, he is getting
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 13: a h correct, yep, I don't think he. I don't
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 13: think he want to. I don't think he will even
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: improve of something night Dy, not that I know your
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 13: season ticket holders too, some of thee might be up
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 13: in the age too. I don't think they want to
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 13: wait till twenty twenty six, evan to get DK Metcalf
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 13: and then not to mention you talking about giving up
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 13: a first round pick, but then yet we need to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 13: tackle too, because Ellien will dropped the ball on that,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 13: because we have a tackle that they ain't played left
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 13: facles since high school? What are we doing?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 13: And it's just we in a five year rebuild? Right,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 13: it's five years now, okay, I mean we've been waiting long.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 13: When is the right time? You had DeAndre Hopkins in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 13: your facility, you let him go. You had a chance
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 13: to get a lot of receivers. There's a lot of
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 13: chance the patients could have got one building one.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: When is the right time? Fellas?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 13: When is the right time?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Ladies too?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 13: When is the right time?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Well? I think I think yeah, And thanks for the call, William.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I you know, did they get everybody that they could
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: have got in this offseason? Probably not? But I think
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: they're trying to be pragmatic about things and you know,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: maybe we dodged a bullet by not getting Calvin Ridley
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: or you know, I don't know, but the tackle one
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: is an issue. That's a big one. I think they
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: need to address that, and you know, if maybe they have,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: but it's.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think that the off season has been perceived
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: as being great or terrible. I don't really see a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: lot of people very passionately defending or criticizing what they've done.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have sort of talked
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: about how we did in the first forty five minutes
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: of the show today of you know, clearly it was
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: important for Mayo and Wolf to retain, you know, a
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: nucleus of guys that they were comfortable with and they
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: wanted to keep around to try to establish what they
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: want to do, their culture, you know, their leadership structure.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: But have you I mean, William made the point just
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: then in passing that you know, I know everybody's you know,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: applauding everything that Elliott Wolf has done. I haven't really
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: heard a lot of that. And to the flip side, was.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: The time that they a lot of people were on
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: the Elliott Wolf bandwagon.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get to that in the said Okay, But
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: on the flip side, we've gotten a couple of questions
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: in the mailbag this week. Why is everybody killing Elliott Wolf.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen any.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Of that either, right, No, I certainly haven't seen that.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: I haven't really seen a lot of criticism of all
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: of these moves. Now in a vacuum, you can say
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: I like this one, I like this one. I like
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: this one, Evan. I'm not really sure about the Ramadre Stevenson.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: You know, you know me.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: I've been a little bit critical of the Kendrick Bourne one,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: you know, as an example. But I haven't seen widespread
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: criticism of the offseason and Elliot Wolf in particular, have you, guys?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: No, And I mean, I guess the way I look
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: at it is stopping the bleeding. That felt like what
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: they had to do this offseason.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: They had to stop the bleeding from this team that
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: was going down the drain for the last couple of years.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 7: You had to re establish. Look, here's the handful of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 7: players that we like and that we think we can
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 7: work with. I just I and I understand Williams's point
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: because you can you go back to like, all right,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: is the rebuild been going on since twenty twenty, so
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: are we now in year five? I understand that frustration,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: but I just I think it was hard for them
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: to you know, we talked about it all off season.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: How are they going to thread the needle with a
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: left tackle, a number one wide receiver, a quarterback of
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: the future. Like it just it's overwhelming to try to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: think how they could have threaded that needle this offseason.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: It was a lot to ask. I mean, there was
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: a way a lot to do this offseason, and you
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: just you're not gonna get it all done.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: They needed to get one of them in free agency, Yeah,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: and they didn't. They picked they did pick whatever one. Well,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: they didn't get a left tackle in free agency. They
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: didn't they can they can get a guy who plays
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: left tackle. They didn't sign a left tackle. They signed
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: a right tackle, a backup one. At that I think
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: they were starting left tackles that were available, or you
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: could have said, no, no, no, we don't like Jonah
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Williams or Tyron Smith at this stage. We're going to
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: get one in the draft and made sure they Calvin
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Ridley or some other number one receiver. They chose neither,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: and I think that's my biggest criticism. But I'm not
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't kill them for it, And I think Mike's
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: point is very valid. Yeah, you can make an argument
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: if you wanted to say, technically, it's been since Brady
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: left in twenty nineteen, you've been rebuilding.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Yep, they don't care about that. This is their first year, right,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: this is year one of their rebuilds.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: They're not responsible for what's happened in the past. True,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: that's what I said, But Robert Kraft is no.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: But like Robert Kraft isn't making all the personnel decisions.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but like at some point the buck
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: stops there.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: Right, No, I get that, But I wouldn't necessarily put
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: it on ownership of why you're spinning your wheel but
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: on the field, and.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: I think that's why ownership made a change last But.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: You know that's just me, Fred. I'm more defensive inn
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: than you ten tend to be.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, but I think I think the owner realized
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: that we're not spinning our wheels, and that's why they
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: made a change.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: I would also argue with the like, it's been long
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: enough I mean they won the Super Bowl.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that it's not that long ago,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: like we're so spoiled here, Yeah, it's so spoiled. I
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: don't look at how long do we have to wait? Well,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: how long does you know Cleveland have to wait as
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: Right, I don't look at it. And you know, just
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: to talk William off the ledge a little bit, I
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: would just say, don't look at it as a five
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: year It's not five years. This is year one of
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: this regime. And I get it's frustrating that they haven't
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: won a playoff games since twenty eighteen. Regardless of if
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: that's spoiled or not. It's frustrating they haven't won a
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: playoff games since twenty eighteen. But we have to give
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: this regime a chance. And I do think it was.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Was it possible, if everything had gone right for them
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: and broke their way this offseason, that they could have
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: addressed quarterback, tackle, receiver and one off season? It was possible,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: but they would have had to have hit a home run,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: like they would have had land Ridley and drafted the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: right left tackle in the second round, and like it
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: all would have had to have gone their way, and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: so it would have been it was hard.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: I will say this, since Tom Brady left, the Patriots
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: have not underachieved. Okay, so they got that going for him.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: Would you have been happier if they signed Jonah Williams
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: and Calvin Ridley or made another, you know, another number
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: one receiver?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: If Ridley wasn't your guy, Like you know, there's been
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: guys available, you know what you know, Jerry Judy, I
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: think if you did that, I think would you feel
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: better about William william Definitely?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: What I'm wondering if it depends on what they still
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: did in the draft, Like I wouldn't have wanted those
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: guys to be the only thing.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Everything else is the same, everything else would be So they.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Still draft Polk and Baker, then yes, obviously, but I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: still would have wanted the young talent in the pipeline.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: Like if they had draft, if they had signed Calvin
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: Ridley and then said we don't need any more receivers,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: I would have been like whoa, whoa, whoa, Like what
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: are we doing? But if they had done everything else
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: the same and they had the same exact draft class,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: but you're just had Calvin Ridley on this team instead
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: of not having Calvin Ridley then not Yeah, obviously I
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: would take that.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: So with signing Calvin Ridley, would that have knock dropped
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: the ability to resign or extend all the people that
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: we've extended.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: It should?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they have like forty five minutes million in cat
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: space now right, Yeah.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: Depends on how much they would have had to be
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: one perspective, like in terms of cash, like maybe.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know cap space.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: Might Robert Kraft have a different answer to that, yes, right,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: But that's why I would say I would rather have
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: had a number one receiver and Ridley included because I
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: like Ridley, than resigning every guy they resigned, Like pick
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: a couple of those guys and say, we don't need
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: to keep Kendrick Bourne. I can give the money I
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: gave to Kenrick Bourne to help me put over the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: top to get Calvin Ridley.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: I think you probably would see these guys already gone.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know Kendrick Bourne probably, Yeah, But that's just
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: the example. Yeah, like that's any is he won obviously
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: because the guy's heard and all that, and.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: You know kJ Osborne wouldn't be here, Not that that's big.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, yeah, Tim writes in Paul, how is Romandre's
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: contract in the same neighborhood as Christian McCaffrey's. One average
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: is nineteen million a year?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: The other is he's six running backs? Yeah, but what's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: the game the average annual value? Yeah, well that's number one. Yeah,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: he's sixth. But you said they're in the same neighborhood.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: He's Yes, he's in the top, but that there's but
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: number six. There's thirty two starting running backs.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: He's six, I know, But what is the gap between
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: him and McCaffrey, Well, what's the.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Gap between him and the next guy? You said they're
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: in the same neighborhood running backs?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Are they?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: I was talking about McCaffrey, Ecklett, all those guys that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: you said, not bad company to be in. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: except he doesn't produce like them, right, But he's paid
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: in that neighborhood.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Is he? Yes, this guy says it's ten million dollars
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: less a year. One guy McCaffrey, Right, that's who we
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: were talking.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: I was talking about all of the guys who caught passes,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: all right, not just one one guy.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey's the best running back and because we should play
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: back the tape because that comment came after I said
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: I was comparing. I was talking about in general. So
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: if I misspoke, I misspoke.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: But I was talking about he's in the upper echelon
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: of running backs paid, he's in that neighborhood.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: That's where he is.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, Oh maybe I did. Maybe I'm guilty of moving
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: the goal post.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: I learned it from you. I learned it from you.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: I will if you want to play it back. And
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: I was talking, I wasn't talking specifically about McCaffrey, but maybe.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: That's I was. Maybe that's what came out, and Tim
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: thought so too.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: But good Tim, I would argue that he's not even
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: in a planet of Christian McCaffrey, and that the contracts
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: aren't that far apart, okay, like when one's one and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: one's six, Like that's not that big a gap to me.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: And there's no impact that Stevenson's never made the impact
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: on a game that McCaffrey has.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: Uh shutters and Manchester says, how do you think May
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: should be given time in the preseason first drives with
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: the ones? Or Brissett should get the first look? Should
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: May get a largest share of the reps to aid
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: his development. It's a great question.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see Jacoby at
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: all in the preseason, Like if we.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Just saw it, if we saw, I mean I would,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: I would, I would. I would play him, I mean
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: I would, I would. Yeah, Yeah, I kind of want to.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to know what I have in
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: him too. If I'm Alex van Pelt, you know, under
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: my offense, and then what do you do?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this on Catch twenty two.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: I think he probably gets more reps, but the best
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: time with the one I would say definitely in the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: first and third game.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 7: I feel like I would. I would really want to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 7: get a look at Drake May. And but I think
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 7: from my perspective, I think you got to see Jacoby
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 7: Brissett in the offense and just get a sense of
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: how it feels. I mean, even if it's just a
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: half with kind of the starters, you know, I don't
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 7: think you could go the whole time without giving Jacoby
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: Brissett an opportunity. But I want to see probably more
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 7: Drake May.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: But May has to play in all three games. Yeah,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: but I wonder I think that's a great question. Gets
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: the reps of the ones?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Who plays with the starters? Yeah, don't. I would have
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: guessed that, and the ones play.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett probably plays the second preseason game with the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: starters to start the game, and then Drake Bay probably
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: starts one and three, but with the two's.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: You know not that's probably yeah, right?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: So do you think it will just be split between
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: them too, and like Zappi just chills.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: Zappi is gonna chill. Joe Miller might.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 7: Get yeah, like fourth quarter, last couple of drives like Cunningham.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, unless they want to showcase Zappy, then I think,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: you know, third preseason game.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think we have time to be
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: showcasing anyone. We need to get this team ready to
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: play in preseason.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: But I feel like Zamply doesn't need to be showcased.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: If you're interested in him as a backup, go look
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: at last season.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: You're good.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: I feel like we have this conversation every year, like
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: you don't get any preparation for the season in preseason games.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: I think the joint practice two feeds into this, Like
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 7: how are the rep going to be divided up?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: And joined me, maybe that's better.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 7: That's where you maybe get a chance to give Drake
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 7: May some opportunities against their best defense.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: I'm still saying Drake May starts week one. Really, since
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: when have you been saying this? I've been saying it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: I've been saying it. Wow, people have been talking.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: I'm making an argument down making an argument in Cincinnati.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: So I was on with Tony last week and.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: They asked me about what I would do, and I said,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: if it were up to me, I would play in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Week one. I don't expect that to happen, but you
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: would have thought that. I said, like, if we're up
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: to me, you know, I put Hitler back in powers.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Like I got a tacked like what are you doing
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: put in the first first first game?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Does don't you think he needs to? Like No, I'm
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: saying like, if it were up to me, and I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: saw some like, right, what am I doing? Obviously I'm
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: not want to get ready to play if he's throwing
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: up on himself in practices, obviously not. But I'm putting
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: him in there assuming that he is. He has proven
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: in practices.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: This summer that he's our best quarterback, that he's going
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: to start week one.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: Obviously shown some development training camp, he hasn't gone out
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: there and fallen down.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 7: I just feel like, if you're watching games with Jacobe Brissette,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: you come out of it being like that was fine,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 7: but it doesn't really matter. Like you know, they beat it,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: they beat a team, they lose a team, it's well,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 7: all right, But Drake May's coming and that's going to
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 7: change everything anyway.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: So Freddie has me induced I like this. He's not
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: saying he would start in week one. He's saying he's
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: going would start. I don't think he has a chance
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: to if he comes.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: Out in the preseason though, and he kind of has
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: reverted back to his old ways. But work wise, would
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: you still start him or you're.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Like notions on the ground change, I'll change. But right
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: now I'm saying he's going to do what it takes
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: in preseason practice this summer to be the Week one starter.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: When you watch all the film, what was what was
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: the game that Drake May? Was it NC State that
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: he was terrible.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: Like terrible state and cles in towards the end of
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have that Drake May start Week one. Then
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette, I understand why. I really do. I think
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: that's the only way to develop.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: I just think that the best reaction, the reaction to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: to Paul on his shows that he was physically on
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: still his shows. Uh, it all depends on how you
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: felt about Drake May before the draft.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they think he's like this, but they listened to
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: two years project, Like, I don't think he's a project.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not like faulting them for that. But if
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: you're somebody like me that that Drake May was great
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: from the start, then I don't understand why it's such
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: an outlandish take to say that week one is a possibility.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: But if you're somebody that is listening to Orlovsky and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: he's telling you that the guy needs to sit for
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: two years, then you say week.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: One, they're going to be like, well, Fred, I'm Fred.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: Was Josh Allen listed as a project?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, significant project, but he started we started note one
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: But he started very early, did he?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 8: He was.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: I mean Josh Allen didn't even complete.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: He was all over the play.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you saw he's better than what you have. Well,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: his row talent was always and I.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Think you're gonna see that this summer and I don't
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: think it's just gonna be raw talent. I think it's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: going to be I would say that until too.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: Drake May's decision making and just like processing is probably
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: a little bit ahead of where Josh Allen's was coming
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: into the league, but they're similar.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: Also.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: I like what Paul mentioned last week where we talked
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: about c. J. Stroud, It's like when we saw him
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: in the preseason, you would have no idea that that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: to who he was going to be by the end
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: of the season. Like there were two totally different quarterbacks.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: Can't find out by playing them.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: Even in like the first game of the year, he
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: played pretty well, Like I didn't. I wasn't very impressed
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: with what I saw, and that again, it just shows
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: you how little those preseason games matter.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked overmatched.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I threw a pick I think first play of
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: the game right to Jalen Mills.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: First, it was the first series anyway, if it wasn't
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: the first play, and he just looked like he was
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: running around and I don't everything looked really fast for him.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: And then he plays the first game against one of
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: the best teams in football and was more than competitive.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to this, So I'm just asking.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: I think we've talked about it before, so maybe I
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: should know the answer. How many high first round quarterback
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: picks didn't start in Week one that didn't have a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: playoff quarterback already on the roster, like an Alex Smith
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: or an Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, we I'd have to go back and look
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: at at week one. It's like, off the top of
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: my head, Year one starter I can probably remember.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: But I'm not saying they started right away, because you know,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Year one starter that could be halfway through.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Well, just looking at this year, Chicago has already declared
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams the starter. Washington has already declared Jade o'
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: daniel Jayden Daniels the starter.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the first two picks.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like, I don't know why this is generally
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: how they do that, but everybody does it because they
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: see that some of these like whatever you want to say,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: sixty first round quarterbacks fail, yeah, seventy nine, whatever number
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: you want to Most of these.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: Guys fail, all right, fail fast, but fail fast.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: I just I don't look at it as a cause
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: and effect, Like I don't look at it as he
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: failed because he started Week one as the two overall pick.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think that's the case.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's because of that. And I've heard
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: enough arguments from the other guys that do play that
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: tell you the immense experience they gained that they could
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: not get by sitting right.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the argument is always is the roster ready for
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: the quarterback?
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: Like so if Zach Wilson or you know, just it's
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: an easy example. But like Sam Darnold had a lot
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: of footwork issues coming into the league. If they didn't
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: have hadn't thrown him into an offense that was terrible,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: and they waited a year and built up the offense
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: with another offseason and another draft and all that kind
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: of stuff and started stacking together you know, personnel, Would
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold have been a better player. I tend to
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: think that's a Darnold just wasn't going to.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Be the guy he's going to be.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, and that's it. But like some people would
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: believe that they developed him incorrectly because they threw him.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: To the Wolves.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I had, you know, a part of this
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: with Tony and I like arguing with Tony because he's
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: like me, he's just going to keep on, He's going
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: to keep going at it and never necessarily relents. But
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: he's like, you know, like a guy like Zach Wilson,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: same team, right, you know, you don't think he was hurt.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: By playing right away. I go, that's funny.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: All I ever hear you tell me Tony about Zach
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: Wilson is he's a moron. So that's his fault that
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: he played right away because he's a moron, or maybe
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: because he makes bad decisions.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: It didn't work right, And whether he played in week
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: five or next year, he's still a moron.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: Like if he's a moron in year three without ever playing,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: he's still a moron according.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: To you, the duck.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: I just feel like it's so easy to sit back
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: and say you ruined him when it doesn't work. Blame
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: the coaches, don't blame the player, you know.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: And I get it. Quarterback is a different position. It's
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: it's unique among kind of all positions in sports. But
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: is there any other position in any sport where you
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: say it's better to not play than to play in
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: order to get better. It's better to not play. The
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: miners right, but they're playing.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's right, Like I don't understand what that sports,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: but that's ample. But that's an example of what he's
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: talking about. Like, even if you like take it to
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: like a high school level, you get like a young
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: kid who's good enough to be on varsity, but he's
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: not gonna play.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: What do they do? They send him to JV so
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: he plays every day. You don't sit him on.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: You don't like say, well, he's really gonna learn as
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: a freshman sitting and watching all the varsity games more
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: than he would be playing in the JV games. Well,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: that's what they basically do to these quarterbacks.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: They don't do it a lot, but I feel like
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: that's gonna happen to Brownie. Like Brownie's not ready, but
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: he doesn't need to be sitting.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: On the bench.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: He's not ready because he's probably correct, but I feel
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: like they're they're gonna make it playing the gi Yeah
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Because ideas you're playing. Yeah.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: My favorite line on that was Rich Paul the day
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: of the draft imploring all the teams not to draft
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: him because he's just going to go to Australia.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: Got it thanks to see uh good hey, mate, Like,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: there was.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: No chance that anybody other than the Lakers was going
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: to draft him. And I don't care about the nepotism.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: You could do whatever you want. That's your team. You've
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: sold your soul to Lebron. He's hired the last however
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: many coaches. What's the difference, Like, I don't care about that,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: But just don't tell me that it was a pick
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: that you made because of the player.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: He's the best player available. Yeah, hey, Mike, this is
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: from Eric in Mike el Paso. They're filming a Wes
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Anderson movie here with Leonardo DiCaprio and Benecio del Toro.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: Anything to look for that may be cool behind the scenes,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: like setups and stuff like that. Sure, Yeah, I.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 7: Mean go try to be an extra, maybe make a
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 7: make a day rate, get some free lunch.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: My roommate did that and they were filming a spencer
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: for hire on Boylson Street and he got to be
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: an extra. Yeah, yeah, got it. Well play.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 7: Paul's got the best stories about being extraving left feel
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 7: the dreams that I would just say though, and I
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: said this to all these guys, know it, Like I
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 7: find being on set tedious and my numbing. So I
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 7: I if you want to go and watch them, like
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: shoot the same scenes six times and relight it and.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a long day. It's a long process.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: Not for me. Alex in New York, my son literally
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: gags if you put any fruit in his mouth. And
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: while I love fruit, I just don't understand it. Allergies
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: to pitted fruit are because they grow on trees. If
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: you have allergies to trees, you have allergies to things
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: that grow on trees. I have the same issue. I
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: used to get itchy when I ate pitted fruit and
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: have had allergy shots for trees and I'm no longer allergic.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: Givem that a shot. On the earlier note about Roman Drake,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: are they putting too many eggs in one basket? Keeping
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: the running back room so lean? If Mandri gets hurt,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: then it's just Gibson And who do you anticipate us
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: picking up another running back before the season, perhaps during
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: camp after cutdowns? I think, so there's a lot out there.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: That's the thing again.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: So I have something that was just sent to me
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: from Bett online. You can have a little fun here.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: Late in the show, they have the opening twenty twenty
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: four NFL quarterback Stats.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, so they take like.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers regular season passing yards over under thirty seven
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: hundred and a half. Oh, wokay, so they interestingly, I
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: think they list Drake May, not Jacoby Brissett. So what
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: do you think they have listed for the regular season
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: passing yards over under total for Drake May?
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: Twenty six hundred, fifteen hundred.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: That's going to say nineteen hundred, okay.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Thirty one hundred and a half. It's had a lot
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Today's NFL. No, but obviously he's going to play three
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: quarters season.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Regular season passing touchdowns twelve ten, seventeen, twenty, fifteen and
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: a half, fifteen and a half, interceptions.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Fifteen and twelve twelve. Oh, we got it, twelve and
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: a half. Those are the numbers. Wow, those are the numbers,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: and they are undisputed. I mean, but it's that that
• 1:41:26
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• 1:41:31
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• 1:41:33
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• 1:41:36
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• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: What's the R for? I do not know. That's some
• 1:41:40
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• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: Few teams have situations clouded by who exactly will be
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: the start of those teams are Denver, Las Vegas, Minnesota,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: New England and Pittsburgh.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: All right, used to be a big sponsor over at
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: Clinnis Denver.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: Do you really think that's going to be a competition.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they don't have a quarterback? Yeah? Who who
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: is be anybody?
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: I mean it could be the new guy did it
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: could be Stitty b Nicks, bon Nicks Wilson. I think
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: it could be any I think it could be any
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: of those three.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: He's like thirty.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Pat Nagawam like that. He is the only way to
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: make slash eat hot dogs, grill or nothing. Brand is
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: Nathan's all beef. I do not like Nathan's really Nathan's.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: Nathan's like the regular like.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: They're good to Yeah, we had Pearl.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Pearl pretty good. It'll never hears Pearl pretty good. I
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  Speaker 2: used to know that family like Kim is good, like
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Bullpark Franks really really good.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: Nathan.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Nathan's. I love Nathan's.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 7: You don't like Nathan's like, yeah, I don't know to crispy,
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  Speaker 7: like a good crack like the skin.
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  Speaker 2: No, you want to know the role is New Style
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  Speaker 2: split top Now, dude, people know what New England outside
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: of New England. We mean by New England hot dog roll.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: So a regular hot dog roll is has is brown
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: on the outside, right, it's got crushed. But a New
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: England one is white on the outside, like they take
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: the crust off. Oh that's only a New England that. Yeah,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: it's a New England cut. I did not know that.
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  Speaker 3: I do like those better. Yeah, I don't like the
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: ones that I have. The brown yeah, yeah, like the
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: heel of bread.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 7: The roles in Germany were awesome, remember the hot dog
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 7: role where it was like a real baked role.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't like that. Did I have a hot
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: too much bread? Too much bread?
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 7: You were doing your TV show and we were wandering
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 7: and you guys dish dog.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: Whether it's a hamburger or the bread, the bread is
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: just to hold it together.
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  Speaker 4: All I know is that Teas and I like found
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: a spot on the last day before the game to
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: get some street meat. My goodness was good. I forget
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: what they called it, but.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't. It wasn't bad. It was like it was
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: like it's like a big flattened piece of fried chicken.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: I mean it was like chicken. Couple of schnitzel.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: It sounds like something special, but it's like, what did
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 7: you think it was?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know not It's just a giant fried chicken,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: so I knew what it was.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: It came as an advertised yeah juice.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: The toppings for the hot dog, according to Patrick, is
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Weber's champagne, dill, mustard, wickles, sweet relish and red onions
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: or brown mustard and sour crat. I go with brown mustard,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: round mustard and salad.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: You big on and like that, like to that. It
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: has to be very specific that brand, this style.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: But Golden's brown, golden brown mustard, mustard and sour krowd.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: I like mustard and onions, very basic.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: Ketchum and mustard, ketch them and.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Mustard on the hot dogs. People will say, catch, it's
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: not bad. Ketch him on the hot dog? Pretty good.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of people say t J every every hot
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: dog three year old ketch I go, when are you
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: gonna him? Every time it's what are you gonna grow
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: out of that?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: And I feel like Fred when I do it, like
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: what are you gonna grow out of that?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: What's on your hamburger?
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: Cheese? And then it depends like if it's if there's
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: lettuce in mayo on it and in tomato, then I
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: have mayo. But if there's not, maybe I'll put some ketchup.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: On it, mustard ketchup on barbecue. But sometimes I love
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: barbecue sauce.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: I like to taste the hamburger and the cheese without
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: a condiment first, just to see if they need a condiment,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: because sometimes the hamburger is so good you don't want
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: to ruin it with condiments.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: That's true. There's something about a grilled there's something about
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: a grilled hamburger cheeseburger.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: It just throw a couple of Thursday. Hey, tomorrow's the day, right, Wait,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Thursday Thursday? It Well, I can't have a hamburger tonight
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: and then have another one. And there's too many hamburgers.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: Craig and Charlotte. I wonder if that's the Craig that
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: we know. We haven't seen him in a long time.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: Remember Craig Charlie figures in South Carolina? Oh? Is he
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: in South Carolina? Pauley's Island? Right? Okay, I don't want
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: to criticize too much before we see the product in
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: the field. But something rattling around my mind. Wolf Slash
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: Mayo have emphasized the importance of getting the right people
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: in the building, but they had a little trouble getting
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: their first choice in a few things reported top o
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: c option Nick Kaylee wanted too much money. Feels like
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: they missed out on a number of top assistant coach targets,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: missed out on Calvin Ridley, unable to trade back into
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: the first for presumable wide receiver target. Maybe some of
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: this is speculation, and I'm sure this happens every year,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: but we likely didn't hear about it under Belichick. But
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: do you have any concern about Wolf and Mayo's ability
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: to execute on their vision? Well, I think they needed
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: so many things not yet.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I just I like that they were aggressive,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 7: you know, but I think the team's going to have
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 7: to win and they're going to have to show that
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 7: they're building something here before they can, you know, get
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: over those humps. I mean, I don't know about the
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: trade and backup stuff. I do like the point though
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 7: about you kind of know everything that's going on now,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 7: so you know, I think there are probably a lot
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 7: of that kind of stuff that we weren't even aware
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 7: with with the pre previous regime.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: But I think it just it comes back to draft.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: Well, win some games, start to build something, people see
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 7: what's going on here, You're gonna start to attract.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: Out of all those things.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: The only thing I could see you knowing about is
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: if they were trying to trade back into the first
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: that tended to trickle out those that kind of stuff.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: But if they were like interviewing three offensive coordinator candidates
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: and they didn't get the one they wanted, I don't
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: think we'd know that if Bill was was.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 7: Nick Hilly the better option than Alex van Pelt young.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: They thought he was, Like it really doesn't matter, yes
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: or no, it matters, that's what they wanted.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say I do like the a VP
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: option in regards to molding Drake Men because he's worked
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: with so many other quarterbacks and so he has that experience.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think That's what I was kind of
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: getting at.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 7: Was you know, I mean, I think there's that argument
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: should certainly be made and Nick Keley it's a little
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 7: bit like he's never done this.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: I think you can make a strong argument that Nick
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: Keley has never done it. So you want a young
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: guy who's never done it or an old guy who's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: never done it right. I think I would probably side
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: with the experience.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: And who played the position in the pro level. True,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: Brad and Amanda claim to be ASSI lip readers. Oh nice,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: and they say, we've been watching you all live on
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: mute in the background the whole show. There are two
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: things we can't figure out. One, your drink bottle sizes
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: enough with the imperial system already. What does that mean?
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: They're not leaders?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know, it's not These are fluid ouncers, three
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 7: hundred and fifty five milli leaders.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: And then to Paul, what was Fred moving the goalposts?
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: About this time we saw the hand motion of them moving.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: I was actually moving the goalpost.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: This time Fred was pointing out that I was moving
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: the goal post. I mistakenly said that Remindrie Stevenson's contract
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: was in the neighborhood of Christian McCaffrey, when in fact
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: I really meant he's in the top six of running backs,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: so he's in the neighborhood of the highest paid running backs,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: but not specifically McCaffrey.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm the one that moved the goal keeping it
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: on mute. Please read and challenge you to answer creatively.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, like, how do we answer that? Creator?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: So I moved the goal post again, and I want
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: to do this creatively?
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: Where are they from the Australia Australia? So it's like this,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: all right, yeah, did we do that? I don't think
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: so he got you got a bit well. I don't
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: know if I agree with this. Anthony says Evan. Try
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: some melon or candle wrapped in proscudo. It's awesome, is it.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to tell you right now. I'm not
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 4: going to try.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: It. I just.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: May be enough of a cover for the fruit taste
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: to make it palatable. In my opinion, it's fantastic. So
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: if you killing the taste, and.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 6: Why even you're not, you're just making juicy meat.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: Please keep I'm sorry.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 6: What a melon ball with persudo wrapped around it? You
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 6: take a bite out of that, you're just eating juicy meat.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: He actually repeated it that in the street meat. I
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: think we're going into places where you know anyway, keep
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: trade or kill. Fourth of July activity trade kill Fourth
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: of July activities, fireworks kill water activities and drinking? Oh,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: drinking keep water activities? What is it? Kill? Fireworks? Trade? Oh?
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: I would. I would.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: I guess I would trade the water activities. Okay, I
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: have no use for I am not a fireworks guy.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not anymore either. I've grown up. I've seen it.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: Tell me you like advance in like fireworks technology, Like
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: I feel like I.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Saw something about that at some point in my life.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: I don't even know. I can't pinpoint. They started being
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: able to make like shapes like things like that, which
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: were cool, but now we have been evolved any further
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: from there.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: So it's like I've seen this brillion I did something.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: One of the communities in our area did something with
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: like AI. Yeah, generated and supposedly, you know, they lost
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: me at it's you know, better for the environment, no sense,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: but I guess it was a decent show.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: But like I'm I'm with I'm with you guys, I've
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: seen it all. I'm not I think. Yeah, what do
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: you like to say, Disney fireworks, I'm not here for that.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not here here for that.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 6: Disneyworks said, Disney fireworks, you can't beat them, no matter
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 6: what age.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: I've been in that park on the fourth of July. Yeah,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: they happen every night. It's great. The Elethetic. You kind
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: of end the night with the fireworks. It's great for kids,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely great for kids. Now here's a Disney tip, your tip.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: If you're in the Magic Kingdom and when they're doing
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: the fireworks, that's when you go and do your rides
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: because everyone's gathered, and that's when you go do your
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: rides like that. Probably chess. I'm here today to make this.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: The only thing missing on Splash Mountain was a sniff uh.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: Anthony also says you gotta see if Hardy can hook
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: you up with some Google Vienna's for the fourth the
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: best hot dog in the world. What does Hardy get.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: He got the hook of Tari doesn't like us any
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 7: Hey man, you want some hot dogs, He's not got
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 7: what you need.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 6: You gotta have Rhode Island hot dogs called Soggy's. Yeah,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: they're like the hot dogs with a little crunch to.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: Them, bit like that juicy meat you were talking. I'm
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: gonna have to talk to someone in the Mayor's office
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: about that. I don't like that at all, Soggy's. Let's see,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: let me see what you did there. We'll finish up
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: with Barton Poland, who has and evan criticism we can't.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: We like to end every show with someone. The guy
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: from Poland's always going to you, Evan. It's just the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: same guy. But yeah, he like.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: Listens and reads religiously. I appreciate it.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: He says. I gotta I gotta say. Evan had one
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: of the worst sports takes over the weekend. Oh oh,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: the moment you implemented replay into sports. You have to
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: agree with the calls being called right down to a millimeter.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: Offside in football. Soccer is offside even by a toenail
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: case closed, same with a touchdown in American football. You
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: cannot bring subjective judgment to an objective decision. If you
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: have var instant replay, you have to break it down
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: to millimeters if you like, if you like it or not.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: And please stop with the bs that the call has
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: to be obvious. Okay, so tell me when the call
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: becomes obvious enough to overturn. People love to preach beautiful
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: slogans about the fairness of the game, et cetera. But
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: when you ask them how they would change the rules,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: they go awfully quiet.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I have a whole thing about this that's
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: going to take more than three minutes. But The biggest
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: thing here is that I have the rules that are
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: in place, Like he's misunderstanding my point. The rules that
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: are in place, with the rules like now you have
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: to follow the rules, like they have the uh you know,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: assisted off sides and over euros, and like the rule
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: is is that that's what you go by. So I'm
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: not saying don't follow the letter of the rule. I'm
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: just telling you that I think it has ruined the
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: sport because now I've watched a ton of international soccer
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: over the last couple of weeks, and I cannot tell
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: you how many goals I have seen come back because
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: VAR ten minutes later has decided that it's offside, right, Okay.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 4: But my point is is that there was a call
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: in the Germany. I forget who they were playing, but
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: is Germany's game, And when I tell you that it
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: was a toenail, it was literally offside by a toenail, okay,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: And they took back a goal because the VAR technology
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: said that he was offside. And I just feel like
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: it ruins like the sport because it's just like you
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: celebrate a goal, you think you have a goal. Obviously,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: goals are rare in soccer, and then they bring it
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: back because the guy the technology is telling you that
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: he's offside by a millimeter, and it's like, not only
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: did it ruin the moment of the game, I know,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: but like you're offside. But my point is is that
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: if the naked eye like my so, what would be
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: my answer? Right? Everybody says is, well, what would you
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: be your answer? The answer is is that you have
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: a replay official like the NFL does, like most sports do.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: If it's not obvious by the naked eye that he's offside.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: There should be a time limit. Then you go with
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: the call in the sea, there should be a time
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: limit by which they make a decision. I go with that.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: My one thing that I would say about the emailer
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: is and I don't know. I'm I'm not going to
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: relate this to European soccer because I don't know the answer.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: But in the US, the leagues that have replay, the
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: word obvious is part of the rule. Yes, it's supposed
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: to be an obvious error, right, clear incontrovertible evidence. You know,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: like anybody watching in a bar would all come to
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: the same conclusion. It's not adjudicated like that. People just like,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: like David's point, it's like a millimeter off side when
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: you have to go back and forth and back. If
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: you have to go back and sides are ridiculous, then
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: go with the call. It's supposed to be clear and obvious.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: But think but the people who say get rid of replay,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: that's just as nuts because did you see the play
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: in baseball happened like a couple of weeks ago where
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: guy sliding into second and his helmet fell off and
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: the guy tagged the helmet. So the call on the
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: field was he was out, But they looked at the
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: replay and his helmet was not was off and he
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: tagged the helmet. He was clearly safe. So it was
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious. It was obvious that wouldn't have been Like but.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: I'm saying if they did it like that, I don't
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: think people would keep playing degree. Yeah, but when they're
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: breaking down frame by frame.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: It's so blurry you can't even see because they've zoomed
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: in a hundred times into the frame and you're looking
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: at it and you're like, you think the puck isn't
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: in this.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there was another play. I'll watch
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of Red Sox. But I think Hamilton was,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: you know, scraping his toe to do a double play
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: second bay, and like if you looked at the third
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: ban at third base angle, it looked like his foot
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: was off. If you looked at the other angle, it
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: looked like he scraped it. Now, the call in the
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: field was the guy was safe. You had to stick
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: with safe. You have two angles that you couldn't tell.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: You got to go with the call in the field,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: you know. And they have a strict time limit I
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: believe in baseball where they have to make and that's
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: I'm all for that. Yeah, it just me too.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: My point isn't tune for the way the soccer rule
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: is written. You have to do it the way it's
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: written now. But my whole point is is just that
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: I can I've seen half a dozen goals come back
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: because of the VAAR technology, and they they deem it up,
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  Speaker 4: they deem it off side, and it just in that
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: sport where you wait for a goal and you could
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: go to the whole freaking game without them scoring, and
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: then they finally put one in the back of the
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  Speaker 4: net and then a guy's toenail is offside. It not
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 4: only did it ruin the moment in the game. But
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  Speaker 4: Germany went through in a game that they probably should
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  Speaker 4: have lost.
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  Speaker 2: Well, England had one of those. They ended up winning
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  Speaker 2: the game, but they were they were behind, won nothing,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: and they had the goal and it was just the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: tip of his cleat was off side. Was that scored twice? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: They scored twice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean and then last night, you
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: know the USA Soccer contributions to so it.
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  Speaker 2: Just it's a mess.
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  Speaker 4: The replay is a mess, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Just take soccer. But I think I love the var
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: the way they do it, like they do it in
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  Speaker 2: three dimensional.
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  Speaker 4: So only something to the problem is is that only
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: some UH high confederations have the budget for that. So
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  Speaker 4: they have that in Euros but they don't have that
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  Speaker 4: copa yeah and copa. So that's not why the US lost.
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  Speaker 2: But all right, that's going to be it for this
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