Latest / Contractor Business Builder Podcast / Estimating Mastery: Build Templates Once, Reuse Forever
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- 0:00Still building every estimate from scratch or just copying
- 0:04past projects? You do not need to do this.
- 0:07This one reusable template makes your bits faster, cleaner, and
- 0:11way more accurate. I'm gonna walk you through how
- 0:14it works and how it's changed the game for many contractors
- 0:17just like you. Alright, you've taken a big step
- 0:19forward in building out an amazing estimating system.
- 0:22This. Getting your first template or
- 0:25templates installed in your estimating system is going to be
- 0:27a game changer. As I mentioned, it just really
- 0:30saves so much time, makes things so much easier.
- 0:33So to get your first template in place, you want it to be your
- 0:37biggest type of project that you do.
- 0:39So if you do new home builds, you want it to be a, you know, a
- 0:42large luxury project with all the bells and whistles.
- 0:45If you're a renovator, maybe it's a full home remodel or
- 0:48whatever it may be, but you want to have the, the template be a
- 0:51really big template because it's easy to delete stuff out of the
- 0:55template, then to, you know, add pieces in and have something too
- 0:58basic and then have to always add more stuff in as you go
- 1:01through. And that's, so pick a big
- 1:03project and that's what you want your first template on.
- 1:05Then pull whatever large project you may have had in the past.
- 1:09You use that as a starting point.
- 1:10So pull, pull up past project and, and just you'll be
- 1:13modifying that to create your first template.
- 1:15And if you want to get something that's already built out at a
- 1:19very high level, you can get the template that we use.
- 1:22We've got a full home build estimating template with all the
- 1:25line items sold, phased out and in order with cost codes and all
- 1:29the, you know, everything's in there.
- 1:31Check out the links in the description.
- 1:33Go go grab our free template for estimating.
- 1:36It'll get you your first template in place within
- 1:39seconds. And you can upload it to any
- 1:41project management software or using a spreadsheet, however you
- 1:44want to use it. So that'll get your, that's the
- 1:46first thing is get that first template in place and figure out
- 1:49what it's going to be. Second one is your structure.
- 1:51So you've got your template, now you need to structure it and you
- 1:54wanna be very thoughtful about how the pieces are coming
- 1:57together, not just for you having to run through this or if
- 2:00you're gonna, you know, hand this off one day to another
- 2:02estimator or if you have an estimator already, but also how
- 2:05your clients going to view it. Because really you're preparing
- 2:07this estimate for your client. So it needs to make sense to
- 2:10them and it needs to have a good structure to it.
- 2:14So the way to get this in place is first of all, consistency.
- 2:17And you're doing that by having the template, but there's
- 2:20whatever structure you pick, it needs to be consistent.
- 2:22Second thing is chronological. So I like to have chronological
- 2:25estimates. You know, we start with
- 2:26preconstruction and then you're going to move into, you know,
- 2:29your site work demo, if you're doing demo foundation framing,
- 2:33so on and so forth. 88OZ start to finish and and final handover
- 2:37to the client. Chronological.
- 2:39It just, it makes sense when you're running through a project
- 2:41like that. And that's the way that I like
- 2:42to see it. There are other ways you could
- 2:44do it by like rooms. If you're doing a remodel and
- 2:47you know, they want a kitchen and then they wanna do a sunroom
- 2:50or something, you could maybe break it out.
- 2:51But generally speaking, even with inside that structure,
- 2:54you're gonna, you're your smaller structure is gonna be
- 2:56chronological beyond that, in those big chronological steps I
- 3:00mentioned, you'll divide it into either divisions by like Costco,
- 3:04which I'm going to get to in a second, or phases of the
- 3:07project. So if you've got, you know,
- 3:08certain phases that are happening in the project, those
- 3:10would be like the big blocks. Then within that you've got your
- 3:13divisions, framing, finishing, electrical, plumbing,
- 3:16mechanical, whatever, right? Those are your kind of
- 3:18divisions. And then with inside that you
- 3:20usually have a similar structure as far as like first you list, I
- 3:24like to list labour and then materials and then equipment,
- 3:27you know, inside that division. But pick what makes sense to you
- 3:31and just keep it consistent throughout the, the template
- 3:34that you're that you're creating here, right #3 is cost codes.
- 3:37Even if you're not planning on getting into cost codes and like
- 3:40coding everything and doing job costing right now because it's,
- 3:43you know, a big, it's a big thing to take on and get into
- 3:46place. But if you're building out a
- 3:48template, you may as well get Costcos in place so that later
- 3:51on you can always refer back to these estimates that you're
- 3:54doing. It helps keeps things more
- 3:55structured. Typically speaking, if you're
- 3:57using project management software, they already have
- 3:59these codes in there, hopefully, or you can load them in.
- 4:02Reach out to us if you need help with any of this or
- 4:05extracurricular type of stuff to to get done in your business.
- 4:08Again, links in the description. So once you have those Costcos
- 4:11in place, you need to pretty much delete a bunch of stuff off
- 4:15the list. So you wanna simplify your cost
- 4:17code structure. You definitely don't need all of
- 4:19them. And when you're going through
- 4:20them, you're like, oh, I might use that, I might use that.
- 4:22Don't worry about it. You can always add more later.
- 4:25But essentially the big thing is you're kind of divisions.
- 4:27You should have maybe a labour and a materials and that's
- 4:31probably about it per division. Maybe equipment, you might break
- 4:34it down to subcontractors, but typically speaking, you only
- 4:37need 20 to 30 Costcos to get started as, as a general
- 4:41contractor. And that's probably enough.
- 4:43You don't need extra ones, even though it might feel good to be
- 4:46more detailed with it. The cost codes aren't about
- 4:49getting detailed with the scope of work.
- 4:51It's about doing job costing later.
- 4:53And you don't need to know job costing down to the plywood
- 4:56sheet or the nail or, or anything as specific as that.
- 4:59You you really just need the big division.
- 5:01Do we go over on framing materials, you know, or were we
- 5:04under, were we over on framing labour under right.
- 5:06That's that's the kind of things that you need and the cost goes,
- 5:09you don't need to know all the little, you know, minor details
- 5:12that that you can get with all these different Costcos.
- 5:15So making sense so far. Alright, moving on to #4 is
- 5:19pricing. So pricing super essentially
- 5:23essential important to get on a template.
- 5:26And you may be thinking that I want a template that just has
- 5:30all the pricing in there. So I can just, you know, do my
- 5:33takeoffs, throw my numbers in and just, you know, have it all
- 5:36done within very short period of time.
- 5:38That is great. And you can kind of get partway
- 5:41there, But I would suggest not putting in too much detailed
- 5:45pricing because prices will change and it'll get outdated
- 5:48overtime. So things like labour pricing,
- 5:51any kind of like really standard kind of stuff if you can, if you
- 5:54have a project management platform that has dynamic
- 5:57pricing, so it's always pulling from your cost database or from
- 6:01live pricing from suppliers and things like that.
- 6:04Fantastic. Put your pricing in there.
- 6:06It's pulling in live pricing. You know what's going to be
- 6:08accurate typically speaking. I know a lot of the time this
- 6:10isn't typically possible. And if it's not, then just be a
- 6:14little bit limited with the pricing so that whoever is
- 6:17running these, even if it's yourself, you kind of force
- 6:20yourself to go and check the pricing as needed or check the
- 6:23cost database to make sure the pricing is accurate.
- 6:26I also like to put in pricing as like a rough or you know,
- 6:29standard type pricing. So things like per plumbing
- 6:32fixture for labour, that kind of pricing, you put it in there or
- 6:36electrical per display pot light, whatever you want to call
- 6:39it, things like that, where it's a very sort of standard price.
- 6:43And then have something later. I'm going to talk about notes
- 6:45and disclaimers, but have something in there so that
- 6:47people are realize that, you know, this may not be the final
- 6:50price or whatever it may be. As I mentioned, if you want to
- 6:53know how like kind of we don't have like super amounts of
- 6:56pricing because it's going to vary by, you know, state,
- 6:58location, all this stuff, but check out the, the estimating
- 7:01templates we have in the description.
- 7:03It's a great basis. It's going to save you tons of
- 7:05hours getting this first template set up.
- 7:07And because it's a full home build template, you can pair it
- 7:10down to whatever essentially you need.
- 7:12And it's already got the structure.
- 7:14If you're doing remodels, even if you're doing commercial
- 7:16projects, you'll take a lot from that to then turn into a
- 7:19commercial project type template.
- 7:21Alright, moving on to a point #5 and getting amazing templates
- 7:24set up. And this is notes.
- 7:26So you're going to need notes. You're going to need some sort
- 7:28of description. And this is the one of the most
- 7:30time saving things because you don't need to be typing in, you
- 7:33know, all these descriptions for different parts of the projects.
- 7:36There should be some basic descriptions are there, and the
- 7:39kind of things you want to be thinking as as far as
- 7:41descriptions go is any sort of calculations.
- 7:44So if you have a certain type of calculation that needs to get
- 7:48done, let's say for putting in insulation or whatever it may
- 7:52be, put the calculation in the internal notes.
- 7:55So usually you got an internal note and then you've got a
- 7:58description. So description the client's
- 7:59going to see that internal notes is just for internal people who
- 8:02are running the estimate. But any kind of calculations are
- 8:04super handy in there when you've got to run them a bunch of times
- 8:07or so that people know how to calculate that part of the
- 8:12project, especially for people starting out new.
- 8:14If you're training someone to estimate and they're putting in
- 8:17like how do I calculate framing labour for this, you know,
- 8:21remodel or whatever, right? So in that internal note you can
- 8:24put in there, this is how you would calculate it.
- 8:26We've got, you know, typically a crew of this many people and you
- 8:28wanna times it by this and make sure you're counting for set up
- 8:31and takedown and clean up at the end of the day and how many days
- 8:33is going to take. And if it lands on 1/2 day, make
- 8:36it a full day or whatever, right?
- 8:37So put your internal notes in there for sure.
- 8:39And then have any risks in the description as well.
- 8:42So things like excavation, you never know kind of how much fuel
- 8:45you're going to possibly need or you may run into stuff
- 8:47underground make you, if you haven't done any sort of, you
- 8:50know, geotech engineering yet or anything like that, put in the
- 8:53description risk factor until you know this time or this may
- 8:57change, whatever it may be. If you're running like a
- 9:00iterative estimating process where you've got like a rough
- 9:03budget that you give to the client, which I highly suggest
- 9:06you gonna give them kind of quick and fast numbers.
- 9:09And that's what you want in your template.
- 9:11So you can just plug and play a lot of your takeoffs or, or just
- 9:14counts and stuff like that, send it over to the client and it's
- 9:17like pretty detailed. And then from there you run, you
- 9:19turn into a preconstruction agreement.
- 9:21And then you sort of do a detailed where you're getting
- 9:24quotes from suppliers, you're doing selections, you're
- 9:26getting, you know, putting out for tender bids with
- 9:28subcontractors and, and that kind of stuff.
- 9:31But essentially have good notes and have that all in the
- 9:34document so that every estimate is the same.
- 9:37We're not the point number six here.
- 9:40That is protection. So at the end of the day, you
- 9:43wanna make sure every proposal that goes out, every budget that
- 9:46you send is protected and that you are protected as a business.
- 9:50So have this in your template. You should have like a templated
- 9:53cover photo and and proposal. And I talked about proposals and
- 9:56other videos. Not gonna go over here, but it's
- 9:58actually for protection. You wanna mention the terms of
- 10:01the the estimate, the proposal have whatever you want to call
- 10:04it. So how long is it good for what
- 10:07you know, standards and and different things Are you using
- 10:09and mention all the terms then you want inclusion.
- 10:12So what doesn't included labour materials, the warranty, all
- 10:16this kind of stuff, right. So have a list of inclusions.
- 10:19And then one of the most important parts is exclusions.
- 10:22You need the client to be very clear what's included, what's
- 10:25not included in the estimate. So that's not coming up later
- 10:28when you get into the project and they're saying like, well,
- 10:30you didn't write anything about this.
- 10:32I was assuming that it was included.
- 10:34And now it's kind of like you're, you're at odds and you
- 10:36know, who's gonna foot the bill for this thing that that wasn't
- 10:39discussed or wasn't, it wasn't specified in in the estimate.
- 10:42So exclusions can be things like permits if you're not including
- 10:45permit pricing, it could be city, you know, hookups and, and
- 10:49upgrades, things like that. Whole number of things could go
- 10:52in here and kind of remediation for asbestos or environmental
- 10:56concerns, whatever it may be, right?
- 10:58You wanna have a pretty good list.
- 11:00You'll have a contract later that's gonna be more built out,
- 11:03but you should have all your bases covered in the estimate
- 11:06and have that in your template. Alright, moving on to point #7
- 11:09here. This is the big one.
- 11:10This is how do we make it better, right?
- 11:12This first one you're gonna get in place is going to be great.
- 11:14It's gonna save a bunch of time, but it's, it's probably going to
- 11:16be, you know, 8080% to where it should be, right.
- 11:19So as far as improvement, every time you run an estimate, you
- 11:23should always be thinking in the back of your mind if something
- 11:26on the estimate on the template when you're making an estimate
- 11:29is out or should be worded differently.
- 11:31If you're changing something on the estimate before it goes to
- 11:34the client, things like should I be changing this on the
- 11:36template? Is this a change that should
- 11:37happen for every future estimate that we're putting out?
- 11:40If it is, take the 5-10 minutes to go back to your template and
- 11:44modify your template so that every time you're running an
- 11:47estimate, you can improve your template and slowly it'll, it'll
- 11:50upgrade overtime and really be an amazing asset to your
- 11:55company. Another thing is we've talked
- 11:56about getting, you know, that one big template, massive
- 11:59template for the biggest project that you have.
- 12:01You can now, let's say you've done a new home build and that's
- 12:05your, your big template and your standard, but you also do
- 12:07remodels and someone wants, you know, their whole first floor of
- 12:10their house remodeled or they want their kitchen remodeled.
- 12:13Well, you're gonna have to build that estimate.
- 12:14So now take that template and create kitchen template.
- 12:18So take out all the things that dark to do with kitchens and
- 12:21pair it down and, and create a kitchen template and then use
- 12:24that template to estimate that project for the client.
- 12:27Yes, it's, it's a little bit more work, but the next time
- 12:29someone ask, can you do a kitchen estimate for me?
- 12:32No problem. You've got it sitting on the
- 12:34shelf. Now you take that kitchen
- 12:35estimate and you just run your kitchen template and you just
- 12:38run with it to to create the estimate.
- 12:40And I would say any project that you consider you may do a couple
- 12:44of during a year, you probably want a pretty good build
- 12:47template fork. And then finally do price
- 12:50checks. I would create a reoccurring
- 12:51task maybe every three months or so and just kind of revisit the
- 12:55template and do a price check or the prices are accurate.
- 12:58How we raise our labour rates. Have we, you know, does the cost
- 13:01of lumber now 10% higher or 5% or whatever?
- 13:04And then just kind of make sure you're always updating the
- 13:06numbers and checking them every three months so that you're not
- 13:09stuck with old pricing and, you know, not being profitable.
- 13:12So now that you know how to create amazing templates for the
- 13:15next step is to check out this other video kind of guy coming
- 13:18up next. This is a series of, you know,
- 13:20estimating mastery on doing takeoffs.
- 13:22So how do you do high level, quick, accurate, great takeoffs
- 13:25using takeoff software and what software to use?
- 13:28Go check out this other video now.