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Genocide and Beyond: A Conversation with Omer Bartov & Penny Green

For weeks, hundreds of international law and genocide experts have been warning that the situation in Gaza is approaching or has become an active genocide, a conclusion very vociferously rejected by Israel and its allies. Today on Speaking Out of Place, we are joined by state crime expert Penny Green and Holocaust historian Omar Bartov to discuss the applicability of the term genocide, the history of its framing, and ways of moving beyond genocidal dynamics.

We also talk about how the term has circulated far beyond legal circles and taken on a particular affective power in the popular…

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