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It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake puts it down.
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The kick is on the way and dock m the bell good one?
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How the hell that one home? How one? They were a party one
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not party way? Incredible? Why not combat by my bell? Jacksonville's perfect
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record on the line right here, quick kicking, look excited? Touchdown Kyle
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Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable. They puttied william Who's hats to full back and
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he scores a touchdown. It's wealthier to face tackle. What's good? Folks,
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muggles, mud bloods, people of Middle Earth. To another episode of Disguised
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you listen to this show on. I'm your host Anthony Prohaska. Find me
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on Twitter at pro Underscore Underscore ant. In this episode of Disguised Coverage,
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I am joined by one of my favorite guests, recurring guests as well,
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whoever grace the stage with me here on disguised coverage, and we're going to
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dive into the x's and o's, the scheme, the structure of the Buffalo
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Bills versus New England Patriots coming up here in week seven teen, a game
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that is very pivotal for the Buffalo Bills in terms of potentially pushing still for
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the AFC East title, but also with the opportunity to clinch a playoff spot
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this week, but also just in general because everyone hates the Patriots, and
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the Patriots beat the Bills earlier in the year, and it's still a real
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sore spot and a bad loss on the docket, and we're going to dive
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into again all the bones and the structure and schematics of that that piece in
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this game. I hope you folks had a good holiday, whatever holiday you
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celebrate, whatever you do, if you travel, if you stay home,
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whatever you eat, whatever you do, whatever you drink. I hope everybody
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had a very fun Christmas time, a very good holiday with I guess I
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was gonna say a couple more things, but I'm just too excited. So
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without further ado, let's bring up my guest at this time again recurring guest
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on the show, mister Taylor, Kyle's of the Beat now for Patriots on
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CLNS. Taylor, you are, like I said, one of my favorite
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people. You're extremely knowledgeable. I texted you earlier this week just you know,
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giving you some praise for how good you're doing over there, you know,
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being a beat guy now and how you've started to assent, but being
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one of the few beat people out there that knows ball, you know,
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Like again, that's why you're here. Like scheme structure, you break down
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tape, you watch the All twenty two. I love how you ask questions
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to the players, and when they give you answers, you then go into
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the tape to those specific plays that you ask questions about and then tie it
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together, like you'll ask somebody a question and then post it on Twitter and
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then go to that play they were talking about and you'll post that play and
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quote tweet your original question and answer from the player. Like it's just you
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give tremendous insight into the Patriots obviously, but football in general. So I
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appreciate the hal idea. I love the work that you do. I also
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think you're pretty decent as a person, So thank you for taking the time
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at Welcome to the show. Thank you, buddy. I always appreciate coming
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on seeing what background you have. I love the best of this. Happy
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holidays, everybody, best to you and yours. But yeah, man,
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I mean football, Listen. It's not an easy sport to follow or really
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to like understand the nitty gritty O. People ask me, you know,
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how do I learn more about football? And I'm saying, if you want
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my experience, it's just watch, watch it till your eyes believe, because
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that's really all it is. It's just recognition at some point, just picking
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up on stuff, and you know, as often as I can, just
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kind of lend that to the people and you know, make it a little
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easier because people just don't have time. That's also I was lucky enough to
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fall up with the sport in middle school, high school, college, and
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I you know, not advisable, but you know, football, football was
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the main thing. You know, school that was nice, but football was
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priority. So yeah, man, I mean, thank you, I appreciate
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that, but football is a great sport. Just trying to spread the love
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as much as I can and happy to be on What wait, real quick,
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how furious would Bise fans be if not only did the Patriots beat them
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again and possibly knock them out of the playoffs, if they lost to two
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different Patriots quarterbacks who most people consider to be backup caliber players in one season.
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What would he would? It would be absolutely terrible, Like it was
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already It was already bad enough, like losing in Week seven to this to
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the Patriots team that every dude we talked about it, like on the show
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when you came on that week, Like that Patriots offense still, this Patriots
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offense, even though it's changed a bit, was arguably the worst in the
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NFL. And they put up twenty nine points on the Bills, and it's
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like, oh, we're down by three with like a couple of minutes left,
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that's cool, just running right, take it right down the field and
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score and beat it. Like it was a demoralizing loss to a team that
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has been the nemesis of the Bills for the majority of the past I don't
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know, like twenty years something like that. Actually, yeah, literally like
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twenty one, twenty two years. Then on top of that, of course,
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Week seven was Belichick's like three hundredth win. So knowing all of that
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happened in Week seven, then to lose, to lose any game right now
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down the stretch for the Bills would be catastrophic for the fans, because they
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eat each game is so important towards the playoff push. The division hopes are
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hanging by a thread, but then the playoff push in general. But to
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know that like they lost would be a problem enough, but then to know
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that they lost to the Pats would hurt even more. To know that they
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lost to Bailey Zappi and the Pats, knowing that they also lost to Mac
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Jones and the Pats, just especially with like where the Pats are, like
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it's not even like, oh, well you lost to Bailey Zappi and the
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Pats, but like that defense is humming, like it's judeon and it's from
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last year, and Doug or sick and you know, Christian Gonzalez is still
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healthy and he's ascended and all of these things. Like no, like the
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Pats defense is still very good in many aspects. We're going to talk about
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it, but it would be any loss would be bad. Losing to the
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Pats would be worse losing to this Pats team. Dude, it just brutal,
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like it would be a it. I can't I don't even know if
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I can put into words like how bad it would be for people, even
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for myself, like objectivity like reigned supreme with me going back and looking at
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stuff from like week seven, I'm just so I'm frustrated right now. One
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is like a fan of two, just as it's like a watcher of football
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schematically, I'm just so furious, Like I just still don't know how Week
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seven happened. So if they lost again, jettison all the all twenty two
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into the sun, like I'm moving to like a remote island in like one
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New Guinea where they've never heard of football, And I'm out well mean to
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be fair this time around. I think Bill's fans and Patriots fans are gonna
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be rooting for a loss because Patriots fans are trying to get back into the
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top three, top fours, so at least we're on the same team this
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time. I will be on the fence because I love seeing how happy those
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guys were after lasting's game, because they really do work their asses off and
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they deserve to get a win, but you know, at the same time,
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if they lose, I'm not gonna be broken up about it because I
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would love to get a guy like Hala Williams, Drake Maye, Jaydon Daniels,
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whoever it is in that AFC eas to compete with some of these guys.
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Of course, it would be like the year that like the Pats have
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a shot at like a top pick. There's all these like really good QB
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prospects for people and just like loaded dudes up top, like, oh yeah,
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well cool Patriots. Actually I do want to ask you about that though,
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Like what is what has this season been like for you? So you
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you started as a Patriots fan, but now you cover them from like a
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ball knowing perspective, what's this season been like? This is very much like
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uncharted territory for the Patriots, but also like for you and both your fandom
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and covering the team, like they've never been a team that's like oh,
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like I guess in the Belichick era, like once Brady and everything happened.
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Like they've never been a team that's been like all top five pick even really
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like top ten, Like, let alone, what this season has been?
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Who they are? What they are Belichick is here, rumors of him like
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going they don't have an answer at quarterback, like dudes are getting hurt,
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they lack firepower in certain areas, Like what is everything? Like is there
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one thing that sticks out in your mind or you just have like a general
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blanket thought or statement when it comes to what this season has been for the
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past. Because also just from my perspective, like I didn't believe in mac
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Jones and a bunch of the offense, but I thought between how good their
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defense was and is granted injuries, but how good defense wasn't is plus Bill
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O'Brien coming back, I thought this team would be fine enough to hover around
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five hundred, if not a couple like wins better than that the majority of
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years. So to see where they are, I'm surprised, But I'm also
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like not a fan and I want to watch them burn. So just what
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is it all like for you knowing this team, watching them on tape every
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week and then also having the fan piece involved, like, cause it's just
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been a it's just been a very unprecedented season, Like with how bad it's
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been, that's what it's been. Unprecedented. Man, It's it's it's kind
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of been a growing experience every week. The middle of the season got to
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hit that low where they were losing consistently and you're like, all right,
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we know what to expect. And then they came out of the bye week
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like things were bad, but it was like, all right, what is
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going on? Like the defense is not allowing touchdowns or like not allowing these
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teams score ten points and the offense is somehow finding ways to lose. I
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think what's I think it's like they're the only team has been frustrating. Like
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there's been points where I've been like disappointed this season and like not happy.
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That was like this is actually more unjust like this is messed up that the
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defense is doing all this putting their bodies on the line, falling out and
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you are actively hur like I mean Mack was doing it before. But it
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was just like there's been two chunks of the season the blowouts to Dallas and
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the Saints, and then that three week stretch where it was like I think
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it was the Colts, the Chargers and the Giants where it was just like
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they can't score Chargers six six nothing. Game was just like dude, yeah,
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your face, I was rooting for a loss and was still like this
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is pathetic, and I'm like this think it's hard to watch, So like
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that's what it is, man like, it's it's been a roller coaster.
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There was the middle, and then there was like the oh they're like,
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you know, they're pretty solid. Then oh god, it's really bad,
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and then all right they're bad, we get it, and then oh my
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god, the defense is doing, well what are we doing? And then
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it's coming back up and you know you're starting to see, oh there's something
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here against all odds, like they're not playing great teams now, and no
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one's gonna pretend they are, Like even the Chiefs for having Patrick Mahomes having
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spags and all the good things that defense is doing, like it still wasn't
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the Chiefs that you know and that you fear. And to be fair,
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like again, the defense made a fight like that. It's an incredible I
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think almost every point the defense has allowed, not all, but the vast
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majority of the points allowed have been on offensive turnovers or something where the offense
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started in their own in opposing territory, so like they're starting with their backs
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against the wall constantly. The first possession they had last week they were backed
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up against the red zone and ended up actually getting a stop. So if
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you talk about like why it's happening, it's one I've been talking for a
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while already. But Bill O'Brien, one, you do a good job.
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So I'm down and the people down to this new two. You're talking about
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all of the pain points for the Patriots, which I'm sure every Bills fan
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listening to this is like, it's all for the content. Man, just
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take my pain and use it to fuel your your enjoyment. But yeah,
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man, I mean so I said Bill O'Brien, The two Bills are just
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really annoying to have to talk about when you're like flowing scream stream of consciousness.
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Bill Belichick has built what it was basically in the net dolphense like injuries
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played a massive part. Like they have lost, almost lost or had significant
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injuries to all of their best players except for David Andrews. Knock on Wood
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like Trent Brown super banged up. He's been rotating with backups like for weeks
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now because he got rolled up on against the Dolphins. Mike and One who
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in close strange started late, were banged up finally found a rhythm. Close
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Strange gets has an ACA. All right, I'm sorry, I don't know.
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If this ACL is a knee injury, then he already had one,
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so he's out for the season. Ramander Stevenson got you know, rolled up
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on hurt his ankle. We're probably not gonna see any more of him.
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Kendrick Borne, their best receiver, went out against the Dolphins like it's just
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been actually, no, I'm sorry. Trent Brown got hurt against the Bills.
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So like literally since the last time you played the Patriots, Trent Brown
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has not been healthy and it's shown in his play. And he was their
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best offensive player for most of the season or the beginning of the season.
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So offense has been ravaged by injury. But they didn't have the talent or
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depth to really be competitive to overcome that when they were facing more stiff competition
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and the defense has been doing its best. You know, they tried to
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replace Christian Gonzalds with J. C. Jackson. That didn't work out.
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He was giving up like an explosive player two every week, whether it was
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a buster, just a blown assignment. He now is done for the season
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due to mental health issues. We you know, obviously wish him the best.
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It's that's much bigger than the game. But yeah, I mean it's
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been tough, but they've really gotten it together. Their pass rush has gotten
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better. Christian Barmore is playing like an all pro Pro Bowl level since like
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Week six, he's really been falling. Devon got Chab been like the best
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nos tackle in football, Anthony Jennings emerging as an elite run defender, Jabro
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Peppers became a starter, and he's been one of the best safeties in the
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league. I really think he's been playing at a Pro Bowl caliber level.
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It didn't play last week, but like really it's been Jealani Tavai another breakout
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guy at linebacker, and Jabro Peppers. Every week one of both of those
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guys is involved in a turnover. Like I'm not exact rating, I'm serious.
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It is wild to watch, like every week it's a joke, but
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it's consistently one or the other. Who's you know, somewhere in the ballpark.
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So the defense has been doing its best. They've really, like,
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you know, they've really stood up in the face of adversity, especially the
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one defense've been the best in the NFL and the offense to it's credit with
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ZAPPI I think because he isn't as beaten and battered as Mac Jones and has
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more confidence. That's kind of shown, and he's been attacking downfield. He's
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been looking better in the pocket than that did. Short accuracy is super inconsistent.
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Decision making is all over the place a little bit because he's too fast
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sometimes and he's too slow, you know, turnover worthy play. At least
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won a game. But you're seeing week by week he is getting better,
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which is, you know, pretty exciting because last week I really thought he
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played flat out good football for most of the games. So yeah, it's
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it's been a wild season, but I do think that this will be a
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more competitive game than a lot of Bills fans probably expect. Baby Zappy definitely
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adds some juice and electricity to the offense. Get it because Zappy that electric.
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Oh God, I ride over my head and I hear the member,
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I hear these funds every day. That's bad. I got to be on
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the point. Get better. We got a question for you from the chat,
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Carl. Carl's pretty much here every week. Carl, appreciate the heuti
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you for being here. Again, thank you very much for the super chat
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and also the question here for Taylor and Taylor this is something I've seen.
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What was I doing was on Talking Football with Bobby Scanner, the work they
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do for John Boy Media, and we're just talking about like the Belichick Chargers
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rumors, and I've seen it reported on social media, different spots. I've
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talked about with people in real life. Do you see and so the question
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directly from Carl Taylor, do you see Bill Belichick going to the Chargers?
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I guess also this specific piece and then add a little extra if you do
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have anything like do you think like is this his last season? Is there
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something that swings the pendulum one way or another? I guess let's add a
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little you know what, what do you see in the future for Bill Belichick?
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Yeah, so, actually just wrote about this on c Ons Media.
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I think that the Belichick the coach, has absolutely earned another season. I
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think that there have been iffy decisions, you know, like some of the
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game management stuff hasn't been on point, although like frankly, my brain hasn't
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registered it as much because I kind of am riding for him to lose because
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you're because you're broken and dead inside. It's team tank at this point,
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Like honestly, it's it's just I'm just like, yeah, go ahead,
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like take your time during the two minutes five. Welcome to watching the drought
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era Buffalo Bills where it's like week nine and you're like, just please lose
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out so we can get a top four pick, please. Like, Yeah,
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it's a it's a strange place to be, man, But yeah,
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I think Belichick the coaches aren't it Again. His defense has been outstanding,
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the special teams haven't been great, and the offense hasn't been great, But
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those are also two sections of the team that he usually puts on someone else.
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Now. The offensive think Bill O'Brien has done a solid job. He
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is as innovative as you'd like. He isn't really adopting as many of the
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more modern principles to create space that a lot of offenses are using. But
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you know, he's back in the NFL. It's his first season. I'm
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hoping that maybe next season they'll incorporate more of those. Also, route spacing
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has been off theirs. I feel like a third down or two a game
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where guys are way too close and I'm like, I don't know where you
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expect the quarterback to throw because all the defenders are in the same area.
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But I mean, like you could do a lot worse an NFL offensive coordinator.
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And I really do think more often than not he's scheming opportunities and they're
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not being taken advantage of. But Belichick, the GM needs to get his
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keys taken away like he's drunk and he's been. That's the comment that just
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came in from Spin. He said they can keep Belichick as a head coach,
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just fire him as the jam. Literally, that's what it is,
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because offensively, I think he lost the plot years ago. It's been the
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same thing for a long time, where like their offensive picks have not really
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panned out in a long time. He got Tomorroo Douglas. He's a six
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round pick, so I'm not giving you a lot of credit for that.
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Cole Strange was really starting to play much better. I will say that he
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was coming back from his injury Post five, was playing the best football of
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his career. Then gets hurt, which really sucks. But even still,
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you can very much debate him being a first round pick. You can one
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way or the other. But I think at this point, it's fair to
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say it's a topic that Warren's discussion and his other offensive draft picks have really
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panned out either, And this has been a long term thing and it's a
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big reason. Or the talent acquisitions like he got Hunter Henry. He's been
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super reliable, solid player for them since he got here. But he's not
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He should not be one of the guys taking up some of the most caps
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based on your entire team. And that's that same offseason was the John new
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Smith deal. And even even you saying like nos, I always hate throwing
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too much shade at like players because it's extremely hard to make it in the
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NFL, let alone survive for multiple years. But like you were right on
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off the injuries earlier and you were, like Kendrick Bouran their best receiver,
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like Kendrick Bourne should not be your best receiver on an NFL football team,
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Like, no disrespect to Kendrick Bourne, even though I really still don't like
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Kendrick Bourne. After it was, oh, the wild card game where the
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Bill has just rocked the Pats a couple of years ago, two but he
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was one of the only people who showed up. Yes, but he scored
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when the Bills were up like thirty and he like mean mugged the camera and
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flexed. I was like, bro, it's the third quarter and you're down
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like thirty something. What are you doing again? To your point, like
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that talent acquisition piece just through the draft and through free agency something that it
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always felt like when and maybe Brady glossed over some of it is I know
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something that people immediately say, But in the Brady Belichick era, the pipeline
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was always sound like and it wasn't just offensively like they were finding guys to
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consistently rotate through on both sides of the ball. And yeah, maybe they
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weren't getting all pros regularly, but they would get these consistent B minus to
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B plus dudes from out of nowhere all the time. And now you're not
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getting that plus like your higher end resource investment pieces in the draft or from
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a financial perspective, also, we're not hitting and that's just sucking the life
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out of everything. And a lot of that is also the talent development.
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Like you have to think Shad o'sha was the receivers coach for a long time.
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I think he's offense coordinator is an offense coordinator somewhere right now. He's
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had success and he's gone other places, and he's a respected coach in the
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league. It was a very good receivers coach for New England responsible probably develops
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like Kettelman, you know, just you know, coaching up guys like Ammon
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Dole, like the receivers, Like you said, they weren't household names,
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but they were good players in that system. Now, one thing about the
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Patriots offensive I feel like gets lost sometimes is that they had Gronkowski for a
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lot of that time point one of the most dynamic football players of all time.
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So I like to put that in there, like, let's not forget
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it's not like they were going out there with like no. One. Gronk
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was a huge difference maker. But then they also had guys like James White,
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who is one of the greatest receiving backtball time. So you know,
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that's how you control the middle of the field. Then you have Julian Edelman,
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you have Wes Welker, he had Danny Ammadole, like they always had
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three guys who could still control the middle of the field. You're actually good
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offensive line. And Dante Scarnaccia, one of the best ever Dante Scarnekia,
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Like, that's the thing. They Their offensive line has been injured, both
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through injuries and just inconsistent. Play has been all over the place since like
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around Brady's last season, and a big part of that is Scarnekia not being
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there. Like they've gone through that Adrian clam last year. They had Matt
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Patricia, who's also the offensive coordinator coaching the offensive line like He's been a
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lot of turnover at that spot over the past few years. And when you
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have scar you can take a guy who is a high school wrestler and played
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one year of collegiate football and turn him into a guy who can start like
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three games for you. That's fine. Most people can't do that. Great
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offensive line coaches don't lead where they are because they are immensely valuable assets.
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And our scene is basically co head coaches in terms of the amount of responsibility
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that you're given and how highly revered you are. So one. The offensive
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line has been a mess for a while, and it's because I don't think
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the development has been there. Also, the talent acquisition has not been there.
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They just don't invest in offensive tackles for some reason, since they drafted
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Isaiah Win and then receivers Troy Brown like bless his heart, Patriots legend as
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a player. They have not been able to develop receivers well, and it
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is mind blowing, Like the town hasn't been great, but still like tomorrow,
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Douglas is coming along, but the struggles he's had throughout the season were
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like immense where he's running some of the most basic routes and taking extra steps,
22:00
taking forever to get his eyes around like Taekwon. Thornton's telling me he
22:03
has freedom in his route and I'm like, you didn't have an offensive line.
22:07
What do you mean you have freedom in your routes for who? Like
22:11
you're fast? Be fast doesn't mean you have to take four seconds to look
22:14
at the quarterback, like you know, it's been that. So it's been
22:19
it's been poor acquisition. It's just all over the place. But yeah,
22:22
man, I don't even remember what the question was, but I mean a
22:26
big part, I mean it's been the development of these players as well.
22:27
The acquisition has not been great, especially in the veterans, but the people
22:32
they draft are just not panning out. And again part of that is because
22:34
they're reaching, but also part of that is because you're not getting the best
22:37
out of the guys that you got. We haven't even gotten a single one
22:40
of the matchups yet. Oh my god, No, you're everything you said
22:44
is on point, Like I just I just feel your emotions so much because
22:51
this is just like this is what every this is what every Bill's conversation was
22:56
like from like a really in the early parts of the drought with Bledsoe,
23:00
there were some like positive moments for the Bills, but really since like I
23:04
don't know, like two thousand and six through like twenty eighteen, like this
23:08
was like every single comp like year conversation like here, just like we don't
23:12
draft anyone that works, Like we get good guys and they leave the free
23:15
agency the free agent acquisition suck. We spent too much money on this guy,
23:19
this didn't work, Like it's just all bad. And then like it's
23:22
all it takes is like that one, like it's just one little question and
23:27
it just spawns this like avenue of responses because you just have so much frustration
23:33
that's built up. I have never answered like a, so, what's going
23:37
on with the Patriots in less than five minutes, Like I don't know how
23:41
I black out and then I come back to it, I'm like, I'm
23:45
out of breath. I feel like I've been going for quite some time.
23:48
But yeah, man, it's it's it's been. It's uh. And the
23:49
worst thing is you say, like all the good free agents leave us,
23:52
our good free agents, want to say, and they kick them out Joe
23:56
Tooney in to Tooby Myers, Like, imagine what this team would look like
24:00
with Joe Toney and Jacoby Myers. Like, at the very least, they're
24:03
like a probably a solid team. You could have had both those guys.
24:07
They wanted to stay and you were like, nah, I don't feel like
24:10
paying you. And then they go somewhere else and have success. So that's
24:11
smart. Another one of the really frustrating parts is that the guys who woul
24:15
do like they ran Brady out of town because they couldn't get him any weapons.
24:19
Like the guys that everybody loves don't want to go anywhere, but you
24:23
run them out because you don't pay them and treat them like crap. I
24:27
love it. I feel you, bro, It's for you. I can
24:32
take. I'm supposed to be like winding down for the night. I'm a
24:36
rild I could run a marathon. It's after nine and nine the East Coast.
24:40
We're supposed to be winding down and just calming all the dude, like
24:45
I have won, I feel you, but those moves too. I love
24:48
that you brun up the Tuney and Jacoby Myers piece, because I really just
24:53
Joe Toney is the type of guy that like, and I'm not saying the
24:56
Patriots aren't a good organization, but that's the type of dude, Like good
25:00
organization does not let get away, let alone the Patriots, who like their
25:03
foundation on offense has been good old line play for forever, like even going
25:07
back to the early Brady years with like Matt Light and like everything you had
25:11
on the O line. You just had these solid guys like from bookend to
25:14
bookend, and then Toony gets away. The Jacoby Myers one really pissed me
25:18
off. I love Jacoby Myers. I wanted him to go to the Bills,
25:22
but I knew he was gonna get priced out, and he signs with
25:26
the Raiders for the exact contract you gave Juju Smith Schuster, Like, so
25:30
you basically say you'd rather pay Juju Smith Schuster then you would Jacoby Myers like
25:36
say, it's not and we're not even talking like, h well, you
25:40
know, Juju took a mill less or two, like not even some negligible
25:42
difference. They got the exact same deal, same term, same overall monetary
25:45
value, same aav may have been broken down individually from like maybe different from
25:49
like a year's standpoint and how the cash is foil, but you gave Juju
25:53
Smith Schuster the same deal the Raiders gave Jacoby Myers. And I'm taking Jacoby
25:59
Myers ten out of ten times, especially given what Juju showed last year and
26:03
the issues that he's had from injury perspective and how that may be limiting him.
26:07
But I just thought Jacobe, like when he got away from the Pats
26:10
and then I saw what he signed for, I was like, oh,
26:14
that's especially with what Christian Kirk and Zay Jones got the year before. I
26:19
was like, well, the receiver market's broken, so I thought Myers was
26:22
going to cash in big time, and when he didn't, I was like,
26:25
Okay, maybe the market's resetting. But then the immediate thought that came
26:27
back in my head was wow, like the Pats could have afforded him,
26:30
and then they gave Juji to the same deal like a day or two later,
26:33
literally, and I just I did not get to j Kobe said that
26:37
like he wanted to come back, and they were just like they didn't make
26:41
any effort. They basically let him walk. And I'm gonna I'm not gonna
26:45
lie. I was one of the people who understood at the time. Now
26:49
I'm thinking that this is the same Juju they just won a Super Bowl,
26:52
who just led a super Bowl winning team in receiving yards. And also one
26:56
thing, and I'm guilty of this with Tuney and Myers, Like I've learned.
26:59
My lesson is that sometimes consistency gets boring and it's like you know exactly
27:03
what you're getting out of Jacoby, but I'm thinking, like, Okay,
27:04
Juju, he's better after the catch. He can make those, like he
27:07
had plenty of body catches. He was an exit a lot of the time
27:11
off for KC, so he had some work on the boundary, Like was
27:14
he creating a lot of separation. No, but you know Jacoby, he
27:17
is a separator. But at the same time he gave you kind of that
27:19
like he's still a big body and he can work when you get him.
27:22
You know, scheme touches, so I figure, okay, in the slot
27:26
role, you know, he'll be a chain mover. Who can you know,
27:27
break a crappy tackle and go for a big game, which Yakobe doesn't
27:32
really do. So I'm saying, okay, you're probably gonna get the same
27:33
average. And like their numbers weren't that dissimilar. That's the thing, Like
27:37
I was backing it up with film and numbers where it's like they're not super
27:41
dissimilar. They just get their yards and production in different ways. But yeah,
27:45
man, I won't. Juju's knee was still busted from the AMC Championship
27:52
game, which when they signed. When he signed, I was expecting,
27:55
Okay, he must have been medically clear. He's fine. He doesn't play
27:57
in OTAs he he takes a while to come and playing training camp and like
28:02
isn't a full participant. And it's like, all right, well why did
28:06
you let Kobe walk? If Juju is here and he's on one knee,
28:11
Like what are we doing here? Because you're thinking it's probably gonna take him
28:14
months to get back to full strength. And he's old, like relatively he's
28:18
older, he's young, but he has a lot of tread on his tires.
28:19
He already has injuries, so I'm thinking, Okay, if he's medically
28:22
cleared, fine, but if he's banged up, then what are you thinking,
28:26
especially because he has to learn like it's relatively new system, like you
28:29
know for Jakobe, it's just different iterations. It's a lot of the same
28:32
stuff. But yeah, man, I talked myself into it free agency.
28:34
We all do it, like you know, there are some people who are
28:37
more disciplined than me who understand, like, no, this is bad right
28:40
now, I see it. You're gonna you'll you'll figure it out later.
28:44
I'm learning. It's a process, but yeah, man, it's uh,
28:47
it was. It was a bad move at the time that I convinced myself
28:51
was fine. And Juju had one good game against the Steelers. He hasn't
28:55
played since, so that's that. And it was his only literally his only
28:59
good game as a Patriot. And then he disappeared because he has an agglutory
29:02
which is significant. I'm not gonna act like you know, he disappeared because
29:04
he didn't want to play, Like, dude was limping bad like on TV
29:08
and on video you could see squawking like this, So you know, I
29:12
don't want to give him any crap to that, but didn't make sense then
29:17
if you were smarter than me, and it makes even less sense now.
29:21
Yeah, It's just been one of those years for the Pats where it seems
29:22
like everything that can go wrong will and or has gone wrong. And they're
29:30
sitting there right now. I mean sitting here at four and eleven with the
29:33
fourth pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, and you know you talked
29:37
about you're already looking at potential quarterback options and you know, high resource guys
29:41
at that top of the draft. It's just been, yeah, a weird
29:45
position to see the Pats being in. And I was really looking forward to
29:49
the overall competition when I thought the AFC East would be this year. Obviously,
29:53
Rogers goes down in Week one, so that just derails everything the Jets
29:56
were gonna be. But I really I thought, again, injuries have played
30:00
such a role with this Patriots team, and I don't want to act like
30:03
they were going to be, you know, some fourteen and three team if
30:06
they stayed healthy, but I thought they would fight for a playoff spot.
30:08
I thought they would if you would have told me the Pats would have finished
30:11
this year and been like ten and seven, nine and eight, Like if
30:15
everything fell right and they could be eleven and six, I'd be like,
30:18
Okay, I could potentially buy that, like I could be talked into that.
30:19
And so just to see, yeah, how many things have gone wrong
30:22
and it's like, like we said, it's it's unprecedented territory. And I
30:26
think that's what makes the Week seven loss for the Bills to the Patriots that
30:30
much more upsetting for the fan base, because the Patriots are sitting here at
30:36
four and eleven and one of those wins came against the Buffalo Bills, and
30:40
we say, and if if the Pats win again and have five wins on
30:44
the year and two of them came against the Bills, it will just I
30:48
do not want to be around for like the aftermath and the fires of that.
30:52
It would just be chaos. But especially if they say Belichick's job,
30:56
that would be hysterical. Missgaglands played off keep Belichick in the division just to
31:03
give Josh Allence a headaches. Dude, it's making like the hair on the
31:06
back of my neck like stand up. It's like frustrating me to even think
31:07
about it, let alone like acknowledge it. And but again, that's like
31:11
the spot that we're in where both teams are in, and I think that's
31:15
like a nice little segue to really get in the meat of this episode.
31:18
We always get so sidetracked with just like general good top bike ball conversation,
31:22
but it's especially with a weak or a team like this where just how many
31:27
again, how many things have gone wrong for the Patriots juxtaposed with what they've
31:32
been traditionally as an organization, Like it's a fun not even fun in like
31:34
a shout and frout type of way, where like, oh, it's fun
31:37
to talk about how bad the Patriots are, but from like a case study
31:38
standpoint, it's a very interesting like topic. Let alone the go forward because
31:44
there's so much rot in a lot of ways that you have to cut out
31:48
and improve to get this team to stack. Like again, there are some
31:52
core pieces like I think Kyle Duggar is a stud I love, I really
31:55
feel I I mean again, I don't want the Patriots to win anything.
31:57
Ever, I was so bummed Wing Gonzales went down like I loved his tape
32:01
at Oregon, and I was so pumped to watch him playing this defense.
32:04
I thought it was such a perfect fit. He like again highlighting, like
32:07
we have this all these little micro cosins and examples of anything that you know
32:12
can and will go wrong, has for the past this year. But even
32:15
though they are sitting there at four wins, one of those wins is coming
32:17
against the Buffalo Bills, another potential one could be looming on the horizon and
32:22
Taylor, that is where we get to the crux of the episode, the
32:23
meat of the episode. As we go inside week seventeen between the Buffalo Bills
32:27
and the New England Patriots, and we each give our top three matchups that
32:30
will go far in terms of deciding who wins this game, how and why.
32:35
For those playing at home, whatever matchup pieces you have, feel free
32:37
to throw them up into the chat. I'm gonna start everything conversation wise as
32:42
we go through, and then once we say our goodbyes to Taylor, we'll
32:45
go back and do some live chat conversation topics as we close out the episode,
32:49
so that's always a fun piece. Also, as Taylor and I each
32:51
give our answers, for those playing at home, feel free to say how
32:53
much they're awesome. Feel free to chastise them and tell us how terrible we
32:58
are. Whatever, you both throw it up into the line chat. The
33:00
world is your oyster tailor you are the guest. You can start with whichever
33:05
one you want, your most important or the one you like the least,
33:07
or the one that annoys you the most, whatever criteria you decide. Do
33:12
you know in order to make this decision, it's up to you. The
33:14
floor is yours. What do you got first? I'm gonna go with something
33:16
positive from a Pats side so that I can, you know, get some
33:20
good juju flown on my end. I got Christian Barmore versus really the interior
33:23
for the Bills, but specifically Osire's Torrance because he like whooped your boy a
33:29
few times when these teams last met. Now, like, I like those
33:32
sirens, Torrance. I've said that on this network before. I am a
33:36
fan. But at the same time, Christian Barmore is really starting to live
33:40
up to his potential, which was already immense. Today Gerard May was talking
33:45
about him, Who's their de facto defensive coordinator? Yes, and he was
33:49
saying, yeah, we already knew that Barmore was a great pass rusher,
33:53
like incredible effort, like beyond the sides and the explosiveness and all the physical
33:59
tools, Like he has everything that you want in a really great interior lineman.
34:04
But on top of it, like the effort's incredible. The way he
34:06
would Shane Bose together, like it was just it looked like second nature.
34:08
When he was in college where it was like the whole crux was that he
34:12
didn't have a ton of playing time and you weren't really sure. I think
34:14
it was like something he kind of flamed out or something at one point in
34:16
the year, but whatever, Yeah, you saw it a little bit like
34:20
in that he was like from a talent guy, was one of those like
34:22
easy, top five, top ten pick kind of guys, and then he
34:24
fell a little bit because of the concerns that he had and it was one
34:29
of those like, oh, of course the Patriots got him and he's going
34:30
to turn into a stud and he's he's had Like even just from what I've
34:34
seen from in watching the Pats obviously don't watch them anywhere near as much as
34:37
you do. He flashes for me all the time. He does something where
34:40
I'm like, oh, like he's so good, and like I remember seeing
34:44
him in college and thought he could translate. And it makes sense that he's
34:47
being talked about in that way because he has everything you want and he's putting
34:51
it together more consistently. Now he's got like true dominating type of play on
34:55
the interior in this era that we're ushering in of like truly dominant interior players
35:00
that exist with like Aaron Donald and Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons and like those
35:04
guys in the world like Barmore and Quinn Williams. Barmore can be talked about
35:08
in that tier if he continues on this trajectory. Sorry, go ahead,
35:12
exactly. No, no, no, I mean no. I like hearing
35:14
from other perspectives because the thing is, everybody that I talked to about Barmore,
35:17
like you know, Film with Friends, You're gonna be on this week,
35:20
you were on last time we did this. Anybody I have on and
35:22
I bring up Barbore, They're like, dude, he's a beast, He's
35:24
a monster. It's not just And I was like, I've been saying he
35:29
deserves some he's been playing at an all brow pro caliber level, and obviously,
35:34
like you said, interior defensive line is a loaded position. I am
35:37
not saying he's going to be voted at all. Prole he had justin Nadebuike.
35:39
He's fall in the season, Aaron Donald obviously. Then you got Chris
35:43
Jones, the Forest Buckner, like so many Quinn Williams, Like you can
35:47
forget how many elite defensive tackles there are so literally, it's who's your flavor
35:52
when you like, you know, do you like stats? Are you really
35:54
looking at the film and seeing downed it down? Because frankly, like you're
35:58
talking about Chris Jones, Chris Jones doesn't make a huge impact against the run
36:01
unless you're coming right at him. Like if you run away from him,
36:05
he's not really gonna do a whole lot. Now you throw a double team
36:07
his way, he doesn't want it. Like if he's not getting like quick
36:09
gap penetration right off the snap, he's not really going to be a factor
36:13
in the run. And that's where Barmore for me is stiff at Oliver also
36:16
in the chat like yes, I'm literally I'm on the bills chat and I
36:20
didn't mention ed Oliver like that's what I'm talking about. There's a lot what
36:22
separates Barmore for me, is that even on the plays where he's not producing
36:27
one, Like you look at even like a wins without pressure pff track send,
36:31
it's a beaten defender. Stat he's third in the NFL, which means
36:35
that he's winning even if he's not getting pressure. And then he's also like
36:38
I think right now he's top three in sacks because he just said three against
36:42
the Broncos against like some a solid guard in Quinn minus. I honestly still
36:45
don't on and say his last name nice got it, But no, like
36:51
he's he's the numbers are there. But also he's standing up to double teams
36:54
like you'll see like him get a really good rib shot on a double and
36:59
he'll move and come right back in place. Like he's really really disciplined.
37:04
I think he's missed one tackle this season or something like that. Like he's
37:07
not missing tackles. He's gap sound. He's not shooting up field very often
37:10
because the Patriots are a gap sound type of scheme, so he's two gapping
37:14
or he's just controlling guys, reading where the ball is. And it's textbook,
37:19
and that's what all the coaches are saying about him, is like it's
37:21
the consistency. It's the health that's a big thing, is that he was
37:24
healthy even in the off season, so he really attacked it and that's what's
37:28
helped him. Because that's what I was saying. Drawd Mayo was like,
37:30
we already knew he was a great pass rusher. What's surprised and he said
37:32
this, what surprised us or me was how he is as a run defender
37:37
this year. Because you see snap after snap, like his technique is good.
37:40
His pad level is low, it's like six' five, so that's
37:43
not easy for him. He's getting under guys pads, you know, he's
37:45
extending like it's consistently good. And then defense that emphasizes discipline, sometimes even
37:52
rushing off the edge because they like their three man rushes world will drop the
37:54
edges kind of flood coverage and just try to be like all right, like
37:58
we just are going to force you to check it down. I could go
38:00
on for him for a long time, but really it's between the discipline and
38:02
the production, the consistency. He's been a monster. And I single out
38:07
c Iris Torrance because when he's a rookie, that's a huge red flag.
38:10
I don't care who you are, and when you're Quinton Nelson, like,
38:13
you're probably going to struggle against an all pro caliber talent. And beyond that,
38:16
I think he gave it to everybody. I think even tackles on the
38:20
Bills lines, so it's he's not the only one. I just think the
38:22
Barbore is going to be a handful for anybody who lines up against him.
38:25
Yeah, and you know, also, I think putting him in and I
38:30
know people in the chat immediately with the season that ed Oliver is having and
38:31
everybody's like, oh, ed Oliver, at Oliver. I also I skipped
38:36
over at Oliver and naming like dudes like that because I just see ed Oliver
38:38
as a especially in the conversation relation to Barmore, I just see them as
38:44
different players. Like Barmore is listed at six five, three hundred and fifteen
38:47
pounds and ed Oliver is not that from a size in front perspective, and
38:52
they play the game differently given like their size and frame instructor not to say
38:55
that again one is bad or one is worse or anything like that, but
38:59
they're just like a different type of player. And yeah, Barmore's sitting there,
39:01
oh, a top twenty in past rush productivity and that win percentage piece.
39:07
From an interior perspective, I think he's also actually wait, I mean
39:09
he's also eleventh in stop percentage against the run, So just what he's done,
39:15
and then also considering what he's doing on the line given the injury to
39:20
Judon and then Uce not being what Uce was last year where he was number
39:23
one in the entire NFL, and pass rush productivity last year, with what
39:27
he was doing off the edge, like, combined with the inconsistency they've had
39:30
on the back end, Like it's not like Barmore is doing well and it's
39:34
oh yeah, well he plays on this line with so and so and so
39:37
and so and so and so. No, Like it's been a team that's
39:39
consistently been in a state of flux. Yeah. Absolutely, Like it's been
39:43
a team that has had to withstand a multitude of injuries, again, even
39:47
just defensively, even if we focus on just one side of the ball,
39:51
injuries consistently throughout all levels of the defense throughout the majority of the year.
39:54
And he's been one of the constants sitting there, playing in all fifteen games
39:58
and week in and week out, being a force. And I also forgot
40:01
too just how far he fell. He was taken in the second round.
40:06
I totally spaced on that. I felt it was like more like middle of
40:09
the first or still in the first, because he was he was just talked
40:14
about so highly and so highly regarded, like he was one of those dudes
40:16
who dominated when he was at Bama. And then I remember like all the
40:20
concerns that people had and the quote unquote red flags and he just fell and
40:23
fell and fell. But I did not remember that he dropped out of the
40:27
first round completely and dropped of the second. Yeah, he's and he's flashed
40:30
a bunch in matchups against the Bills, like Judon usually gets the attention for
40:36
like Bills fans like, oh, we gotta worry about Judon. And I
40:37
think Ouch started to get some recognition last year as well. But Barmore,
40:40
like you said, Barmore has been a dude who was consistently won on the
40:44
interior and especially considering his size and the pace that he plays with. With
40:49
that size, he can give Mitch Moore's problems at center if he wants to
40:52
line up directly over the center, if you want to shade or again you're
40:54
matching him up against a rookie. Let's see what he got, Let's see
40:57
what he or he what he has put him up against kind govern and see
41:00
what he can do with his size and his athleticism. Like it presents some
41:02
fun matchup pieces on the inside. I like that. I like that.
41:07
I don't know where to start now, you know I'll start. I'll start,
41:13
I know, right, I'll start with I always rank everything evenly for
41:15
the most part, and I'm I and I never know how to title things.
41:19
I'll start with to continue this conversation regarding the Pats defense and bar Moore,
41:23
I'll start with that side of the ball and what I got. So
41:25
my first piece I'll go with here, and again I'm horrible with titling things.
41:30
What Buffalo Bill's run game do we see in this game? That's what
41:34
I'm gonna start with here. So versus Dallas. A couple of weeks ago,
41:37
we saw the Bill spam the hell out of their tackle rap play,
41:40
their dark concept, and it's been one of their core concepts all year.
41:45
Dart duo and mid zone are their bread and butter, their go tos.
41:49
They'll rotate them a bit, but that tackle rap dark play if it's everything
41:52
they do. You get Dion Dawkins on the movie, you gets Spencer Brown
41:53
on the move. You take advantage of their athleticism, like you allow Cyrus
41:58
Torrants to pinn his strength and his mauling ability, Like that is what you
42:01
want. So the Bills spam the hell out of that against Dallas versus the
42:05
Chargers. That wasn't working. Chargers were getting penetration and pushed on the interior.
42:09
They're winning on that front side, tackle pull side and closing down that
42:13
gap, something the Jets have done at times against the Bills, something that
42:16
other teams have done to slow down that concept. When I say all that
42:20
to say, I'm still baffled that Dallas did nothing to adjust to that in
42:24
that game against the Bills, I don't know. Like, for as much
42:28
as the talk was the Bill's run game and how successful it was, I
42:31
thought equally, if not more so, the conversation should have been, how
42:35
did Dallas not adjust at all? They just kept willingly letting the same thing
42:38
happen. And at most they'd be like, well, we'll take the front
42:42
side edge player and we'll try and squeeze down on the inside. It's like
42:45
cool. Then They're just gonna bounce it on the outside. They're like,
42:46
okay, okay, okay, well we'll box it in and force it.
42:50
Okay, Cook's gonna cut inside and gouge you for fifteen Like you're not doing
42:52
anything. You're still losing. You have one man for two gaps. You
42:55
are going to lose. It's not happening, But I digress. So versus
43:00
the Chargers, that concept wasn't working for the Bills, so the Bills went
43:04
to their mid zone runs. They dressed it up with some jet motions,
43:06
specifically with Trent Sherfield spammed the hell out of that. It really started to
43:09
help their run game and turn things around. And like I mentioned, we've
43:13
also seen them lean on duo at certain points this year. So overall,
43:15
the first part like what concept do we see versus the Pats, how much
43:20
of it do we see? What else gets sprinkled in, and can they
43:23
be successful in which concept and how much versus the Chargers. In Week sixteen
43:29
for the Buffalo Bills, they were twenty six in EPA per attempt for running
43:32
back carries only at negative point two five EPA per attempt. Horrible, even
43:38
more so considering it's a point two seven drop in EPA per attempt For where
43:44
the Bills are on the year, The Bill's running back run game is fourth
43:47
in the NFL right now in EPA per attempt at point zero two. They
43:51
have been one of the best running back run games in the NFL the entire
43:55
year. Philly has kind of ebbed and flowed a bit. Baltimore's been there,
43:59
Miami me has been wild with a chain and moster a chain has some
44:04
crazy I actually might pull them up because they're just nuts. Like a chan
44:07
is just crushing yards per attempt and EPA per attempt brown everybody out of the
44:10
water. Like, So that's influence in Miami's room. But Buffalo has been
44:14
consistently like a top four run team from an EPA per attempt perspective all year,
44:19
like, and I always like to put in the running back pieces because
44:22
if you don't, everyone's like, oh, well, Josh Allen scrambles,
44:24
Josh Allen designed runs. It's like, no, forget that. Just the
44:29
combination of James Cook and Latavious Murray and then Ty Johnson and what he's been
44:32
recently. Leonard Fournette played this last game, but I think if Johnson's healthy
44:37
and his shoulders all right, he goes back in again. The Bills have
44:39
had a successful running back run game, but against the Chargers, like I
44:43
said, twenty six then epa per attempt versus being fourth overall on the year.
44:47
I think it's no coincidence that we saw a sluggish and often disjointed Buffalo
44:52
Bill's offense versus the Chargers, and not coincidentally the run game not being a
44:57
good part for them in that game. The run game is a sign magnificant
45:00
easy button for the Bills offense and more importantly for Josh Allen. Josh Allen
45:05
was off his game against the Chargers, and the run game wasn't present enough
45:08
from a successful standpoint to carry the workload. And I think again that's why
45:14
it was such a fight, and it was such a drag out effort from
45:16
the offense because Allen was off and then more importantly, the run game wasn't
45:21
working. And I've said it for several years. I usually working in somehow
45:24
into some matchup piece depending on what the week to week looks like, but
45:28
it's always been too much just to place the offense onto Josh allen shoulders and
45:31
expect him to carry everything completely. You need a pivot, you need a
45:36
secondary pitch. And that's just in general, but especially given the play style
45:42
of Josh Allen, his high variants yin and yang pendulum swinging positively and negatively
45:47
aspect of Josh Allen, and then especially even more this year where he's been
45:52
prone to poor decision making, inaccuracy and reads and all of that isn't exclusive
45:58
to his time under Ken. Dorsey again argers game first throw of the game.
46:00
He dirts it to Stefan Diggs. The first third down of the first
46:04
drive, he misses the Tavius Murray wide open. Granted, Murray's releasing out
46:07
of the backfield needs a checkdown piece, but Allen doesn't even register him.
46:12
It doesn't even see him. He struggled at points this year with his hot
46:14
reads and reading pressure and all that kind of stuff. We've seen more of
46:17
the yin and yang of Josh Allen this year and it's been more costly than
46:22
it has been in previous years. And tying that in with the run game
46:25
piece, Bills have nine wins on the year. Six of their nine wins
46:30
have come when they've had a positive EPA per attempt for running back carries.
46:34
Conversely, they've had six games with a negative EPA per attempt for running back
46:38
carries and they've lost three out of those six games, and the three they
46:42
won where they had a negative EPA per attempt for running back carries, those
46:46
three games were against the Jets, the Buccaneers, and the Chargers, so
46:51
not exactly the three best teams, although Tampa Bay is an awful and also
46:53
those games had games where the game script helped them not be punished for not
47:00
being able to run. They did a great job with their RPO game against
47:02
Tampa. The Jets game, they had a ton of explosive UH plays in
47:07
the Pats well, not a ton of explosive plays in the past, but
47:08
a couple explosive plays in the past. And you're playing against that Jets offense
47:13
where they were just giving the ball back to the Bill's offense over and over
47:15
and over. And then the Chargers not great as well. So that's a
47:19
Bill's offense piece and how important it is to them. And also, like
47:21
you talked about earlier, the Pats defense is very very good against the run.
47:24
Their second in DVA against the run this year and their first in EPA
47:30
per rush allowed at negative zero point two to one. The Falcons are second
47:36
at negative zero point one five. So that's a significant gap between the Pats
47:40
at first. Don't raise your eyebrows with negative that's a significant gap between the
47:45
Pats at one and literally everybody else. Also, fun fact, carries in
47:50
general, not just running back carries. The Bill's lowest EPA per attempt on
47:53
the ground this year came against the Patriots in Week seven at negative zero point
47:59
one point nine. That includes surprising because they couldn't tackle for a damn in
48:02
that game. So I saw that too, and I was kind of like
48:06
e But again, that's including Josh Allen run scrambles everything. Oh yeah,
48:10
Josh Allen wasn't runing that well, I remember that. But even if you're
48:13
doing just running back carries only, the Bills had an EPAY per attempt in
48:15
that game of negative zero point zero nine, which was their fifth lowest on
48:20
the year. The Bills offense struggles from a ease perspective when they are unable
48:27
to run the football with their running backs. It opens up so much,
48:30
I think from a schematic perspective. I've said at a bunch on the show
48:34
and it's known at this point like if you can run the ball, it's
48:36
easier. It opens up the RPO game, it opens up the play action
48:38
game. No, you don't need a good run game to have a good
48:42
play action game. Yes, it does help, so on and so forth,
48:44
all of those pieces, like the ease that it affords the offense.
48:46
But I also think it's just able to calm and relax Josh Allen. It
48:51
makes him feel like the world isn't on his shoulders. He doesn't feel like
48:53
he has to do everything himself. We know at this point Josh Allen presses
48:59
when he feels like things need to get done. That's how he plays in
49:01
general. And if he makes a mistake, he presses further. And usually
49:06
when he presses further, it doesn't work out. Usually things get worse and
49:09
we get this negative snowball effect that happens with Josh Allen and this Bill's offense.
49:14
The run game one is tremendous. Again, it's been a top four
49:17
unit all year. They've got some variety. They have something to hang their
49:21
hat on. They can go zone, they can go gap, They've got
49:24
a good rotation of running backs. People know what their roles are and what
49:28
they need to do. I think this run game is a legitimate piece of
49:31
the offense and needs to be going forward just because it's awesome to be able
49:35
to pass the ball and run the ball. It gives you a true pivot,
49:37
but also even more important for this team given the nature of Josh Allen,
49:42
the nature of how he's played this year and the struggles we've seen for
49:45
him, and then again going up against the Pats in this game where they
49:49
are very good against the run. So if you can't run the ball against
49:52
the Pats, and we've seen the Bills struggle offense, and then when they
49:54
haven't been able to run the ball, that potentially works into the Patriots defense
49:59
favor. Yeah. I think the only way they're gonna have a lot of
50:01
successes if they can get outside, because you're not running inside against gotchab bar
50:07
More Bentley to Viy Lawrence s guy, Like that's just not happening. They're
50:10
Bill to stop the run in the spine like you're not. Yeah, you're
50:14
not divertically displacing them on the interior. You're not gonna win that matchup,
50:17
or at least you're not gonna win that consistently right, what you can do.
50:22
If you're gonna attack to the middle, it's gonna be with that wide
50:23
zone where you get Bentley and to Vay going sideways and maybe you get an
50:28
alley where you pin them. But even then, like it's still hard to
50:30
get past the first level, Like that's you know, you got to handle
50:35
them first. So if they do run inside, I think it's gonna be,
50:37
you know, any success is going to come on that wide zone where
50:39
you try to create the horizontal displacement because you're probably not moving them off the
50:43
ball, and if you do, you're not going to get ahole lot after
50:45
it. If you could get outside, like if James Cook can manipulate them
50:50
to slow down a little bit as he's getting outside the tackles and get that
50:52
one step we've seen, he can explode. I haven't studied how I haven't
50:57
studied the last game yet extensively, most going off memory, but I feel
51:00
like when Cook had success, it was when he did get outside because he's
51:04
just so fast, Like when you get to that point. The Patriots aren't
51:07
built, so they're built to pin you inside. They do a great job
51:10
that, like Anthony Jennings He usually doesn't even let guys get outside because he
51:14
has this play where he and then one of the safeties will be down in
51:16
the slot no blitz, so Jennings crashes inside, so the back has to
51:22
make a decision quick and they can't get outside. If they get past him,
51:24
they're probably not getting past duggar peppers when they're coming off the edge,
51:28
so it's hard to even get there. But if you do and you can
51:31
get you know, usually a double team on the edge will be enough to
51:35
kind of just get that crease and get your athlenson going. So if they
51:37
get anything, I don't think it's gonna be with the duo or gaff.
51:42
I don't think it's gonna be any of that. I think it's gonna be
51:43
manipulating by going side to side and just trying to win a battle of athleticism
51:47
to get into space. I think that's a fair point. And like that's
51:50
where you like I want James Cook in space against Tavai and in space against
51:54
Bentley, like that is advantage Cook. I don't want James Cook banging in
51:59
the eight gap with Jawan Bentley coming downhill and like being hemmed into those areas
52:04
and again, that's an aspect where the bills for a Chargers front that got
52:08
pushed around a bunch this year. They were again I even gotten fully through.
52:14
Christmas week has been absolute hell. But that like I mean, I
52:17
want to see I can get through the table when I get through that all
52:20
twenty two piece fully Like they were just squeezing gaps on the interior, which
52:22
is why the bill went to their mid zone pieces, because they were like,
52:25
Okay, we can use our athleticism, we can take advantage of them
52:29
trying to get upfield in a hurry. And then Cook is just very much
52:31
like water. He's so fluid when they run those zone runs. He'll go
52:36
wherever and do whatever. And that's where the success came. But again they
52:39
had to pivot to that late second quarter and then into the second half because
52:45
they were trying dart early on and just wasn't working. Wasn't working, wasn't
52:49
working. Bring the cat up on the screen. Bring I love cats.
52:52
Bring the cat up on the screen. She just ran away. She's she's
53:00
adorable though if she gets close, I'll try. She's just the cutest little
53:02
All I saw was like the little speck of white from her face and then
53:07
I saw the tail and I was like, oh, that happens all the
53:10
time. She'll just jump up and I try to just be normal and then
53:15
just just see like a little That's all I saw was the tail come up,
53:16
like she was like, don't ignore me, acknowledge my presence. I
53:20
like that. I like it. She's the boss. So I mean cats,
53:22
you know, they're little furry assassins that capture our heart and then figure
53:25
out ways to try and kill us in our sleep. So I'm all about
53:28
it. But yeah, this piece, yea, yeah, I look what
53:31
you were literally like, okay, I'll show and she was like no,
53:34
and I was like she heard me. It's like she heard Yeah. I
53:37
don't want I don't want to be a camera. You don't want to like
53:38
social media being acknowledge. Uh. Yeah, I'm interested to see that piece
53:43
because it and it's also just from a bare bones aspect like the Bills run
53:46
game good, Pat's Rundy good, like two good units going up against one
53:52
another, like story you do. And then especially with how back banged up
53:55
they are on the back end, like we were talking about the Pat's owners
54:00
later or earlier offline, which I know you're going to talk about in a
54:01
bit too as well, like that should be advantage Bills, but then like
54:06
the Pats know that that's advantage Bills, but then they also know what they
54:08
can do against the run, and just I think that that run game piece
54:12
starts the chest match in this game. But then again I usually think that
54:15
every week, because how you fit the run determines how you play coverage on
54:17
the back end and what you can do from a numbers perspective. Thus,
54:20
what you can do from a coverage perspective. Man, very excited. I'm
54:23
very nervous for this game, as I am for everything, but I'm also
54:25
very excited. The floor is yours once again, mister Taylor Kyles. What
54:29
is your second point that you've got for Bills first Pats in Week seventeen.
54:32
Yeah, so it's gonna be I don't you know. Steph has been quiet
54:36
lately, but I mean against this matchup, like this is where you'd probably
54:38
expect if there's gonna be a turnaround, it's going to be this week.
54:43
Jonathan Jones has been in and out of the lineup. He's just been banged
54:45
up all season. He's doing his best. He's an older guy, super
54:50
solid player when he's in there, but I think he missed the entire second
54:52
half or something last week, so you know, he's just really been been
54:57
out of sorts. Miles Briant's been solid in the slot on he made some
55:00
plays for him at times. But Phill's fans also understanding Miles Bryant has his
55:04
limitations. He has. I will say he's gotten smarter, he's gotten a
55:07
little bit faster. You still don't love him in one on one matchups against
55:10
man, but he's so good and understanding leverage and spacing and depth and things
55:15
like that that you know he's okay. But the point is outside, the
55:19
Patriots have Alex Austin, who some Bills fans will be familiar with. We
55:22
talked about it. He's a guy where you know, physically nothing allows you.
55:27
He's not super fast, he's not super big, but he's got decent
55:30
size. You know, he's long enough where he could be competitive. He
55:32
actually almost had an interception against Pittsburgh because Mitch threw it out behind his receiver
55:37
and he almost capitalized dropped it, but you know that was a cool flash
55:40
had one miscommunication against the Broncos where Marvin Mims kind of broke off a crosser
55:46
and took off downfield, the kind of thing you see, you know,
55:49
the fields do all the time. And Alex Austin saw Russ scramble bit upfield
55:53
and that was all it took. And then Marvin Mims was alone, which
55:57
one event like forty yards downfield, fifty yards downfield. So Alex Sawston outside
56:00
and then Sewn Wade. So Sean Wade, you know, if you watch
56:04
college football, you know him from Ohio State. He was great in the
56:06
slot. They moved him outside, didn't work as draft stock, plummeted,
56:08
got drafted by the Ravens late, and then wound up getting traded to the
56:12
Patriots before he even played at snapper Baltimore outside of the preseason. So he
56:17
has been okay, Like he hasn't given up that's the thing about the pass.
56:21
They don't give up a lot of deep shots. Like They've been very
56:23
disciplined in that regard, and especially considering it's been just like a rotation of
56:28
guys. J C. Jackson is no longer active or his season's done due
56:31
to mental health reasons. We wish him the best, hope he's doing well.
56:35
But he was, you know, giving up explosive plays. At least
56:37
once every week there was some kind of coverage bust and they're still pretty good
56:39
against the deep ball. So that said, you know, that's the whole
56:44
plan against Josh Allen is get the f back. But you know, Sean
56:46
Wade is also a guy who tackling's been an issue for him throughout the season.
56:51
He allowed a touchdown last week because they have pats were in zero.
56:53
He tried to jump a hitch or a curl and instead of you know,
56:58
usually you'll see a corner sit on it when you know the ball's gonna come
57:00
out bast you just wait for the ball and get out of the hand,
57:04
he attack it. He tried to backpedal and then attack, and that just
57:07
usually puts you a step behind. He was just barely missed it. Misses
57:10
on the interception, wiffs on the tackle, touchdown. So these guys don't
57:15
let a lot of things get over their head. But at the same time,
57:17
Alex Austen like, if you're going, you know, if Gabe Davis
57:21
wants to have his one adyr catch a game, you know it's probably gonna
57:23
be there if he just bodies somebody up. Although again they are competitive,
57:28
and then Steph like step is Steph, and you're talking about Sean Wade and
57:30
Alex Sauston, who the common fan has no idea who they are. So
57:34
that is a mismatch. So if the Bills are gonna have a shot,
57:37
I think they're gonna find a way to expose those guys on the outside.
57:38
Miles Bryant not so much. He may give up a big play or two,
57:42
but he's not the kind of guy that is the reason that you lose
57:45
a game. But really it's the tackling and just the inexperience of the pats
57:47
on outside in terms of guys who started a lot seeing a lot of high
57:52
quality football. I just think that's a huge mismatch in their favor of the
57:54
Bills, you know, and that ties in with uh one of the points
58:00
I'm about to bring up now from your so, Gabe Davis has been a
58:04
very Before I get to my point, Gave Davis has been a very like
58:06
polarizing player for Bills fans. Everybody jumped down to the Gabe Davis' awesome bandwagon
58:12
after the performance against the Chiefs in the thirteen Seconds game four tuddies just balling
58:16
out in that game and then he said inconsistent play. And I forget who
58:20
the tweet was from during the Chargers game, but somebody, I think it
58:24
was somebody from barstool said something like once a month like Gabe Davis is the
58:29
best receiver in the world or something like that. And you know, Josh
58:31
Allen threw for two hundred and thirty seven yards against the Chargers. Gabe Davis
58:34
had one hundred and thirty of that and he just makes go ahead. I
58:37
was I just have a quick joke. I should have inenterrupted you anyway.
58:40
You Randy Malls game against the Cowboys where he just went off on Thanksgiving because
58:44
he's like, yeah, screw you should have drafted me. That's gave Davis
58:46
like once a month is it'll be like five catches, two hundred and ten
58:51
yards, two touchdowns, and then he nothing for days. It's it's hilarious.
58:57
I'm sorry that was not a good enough joke to interrupt you for,
59:00
but I like it and it's funny too. I think, Oh, I
59:02
think I saw. I think somebody also posted like some like highlight of like
59:08
it was like it was like a fifty second like Randy Moss clip and I
59:12
think the caption was like it was a meme and it was like Gabe Davis
59:15
once a month that was falling out against everybody, pulling down all these catches,
59:19
Like, but that's how that's how he plays at times. And I
59:22
mean before this game against the Chargers, three out of his four games he
59:27
had under or three out of the past four games he had no catches,
59:30
no yards, and then he had the literally dude literally and then had one
59:36
big blow up game, you know, balled out against Philly. But three
59:37
out of the four he's done absolutely nothing with Joe Brady. From your outside
59:42
perspective, what is your thought on Gabe Davis when you think of him as
59:46
a wide receiver? Like, what is he to you as a person who
59:51
consumes a lot of tape not just for the past, but like league wide.
59:54
Do you think he's a true wide receiver too? Do you think he
59:59
like he's tear wide receiver too? Is he not? Like however you choose
1:00:02
to label him, whatever you choose to say, like, what is Gabe
1:00:06
Davis to you? From an outside perspective? Gave Davis is to the Patriots,
1:00:09
They're like in general, he kind of reminds me of Jalen Waddle to
1:00:12
what he is in the Patriots. We're like super talented player and he puts
1:00:15
up good numbers, but against the Pats, it's like he won't do much
1:00:19
of anything. They're super quiet. But then you'll have like one catch where
1:00:22
Jalen Wildlife feel like at least has one catch for like fifty yards against the
1:00:27
Pats, but you don't hear from him the rest of the game, and
1:00:29
it's like, Okay, I'm not really scared of him, but I know
1:00:32
he's probably gonna have a big play, but he's also not gonna be the
1:00:35
reason you lose. That's how I see Gave Davis is like I'm not going
1:00:37
to the matchup like oh, Goby, why to worry about Gabe Davis.
1:00:40
But it's like, Okay, if he has like a bomb thrown at him
1:00:43
and he catches it and like triple coverage or something for a touchdown, like
1:00:46
yeah, okay, sure that happens. But he's not like Steph because the
1:00:51
consistency has never been there. Like for me, a guy is someone where
1:00:54
it's like week in week out, like your production is there, and I
1:00:58
see that you are someone that the team has to think about a game plan
1:01:00
around game. Davis is more like play your technique. If you are fundamentally
1:01:05
sound, you should be fine. But like every once in a while,
1:01:07
he's gonna make a play on you because he's he's super talented. That's what
1:01:12
he is. Like I do on think he's a guy, but I think
1:01:14
he's a threat where just don't sleep on him might burn yet. But again
1:01:19
I'm not. I'm not losing sleep fair. I think it's a fair assessment.
1:01:22
So I'm gonna I'm gonna peeback off your point because it ties into one
1:01:24
of my points here. So I labeled this one what does Bill Belichick take
1:01:30
away? And I started with that and how it ties into your you know,
1:01:34
one of your points starting with Stefan Diggs. Like we've seen Bill Belichick
1:01:37
give special attention to Stefan Diggs pretty regularly in each games against the pass.
1:01:42
Like sometimes it's just your typical like inside out bracket coverage. Sometimes he's rolling
1:01:45
the safety that way, so you'll go with a good old one double.
1:01:49
Like we've seen him give attention to Stefan dis We've also seen him give a
1:01:52
special attention to Cole Beasley at times when Beasley was at his site double on
1:01:55
him from the slot, but we know Belichick has done that in the past.
1:01:59
I'm trying to take Steffan Diggs. We've seen teams take away Stefan Diggs
1:02:04
recently for the Bills and since Joe Brady took over his offensive coordinator. And
1:02:08
I also want to put this out as a disclaimer, like what I'm about
1:02:12
to say is not an indictment on or of Joe Brady. I'm not saying
1:02:16
Joe Brady sucks. I'm not saying Joe Brady doesn't know how to use Steffan
1:02:20
Diggs. I'm not saying anything. I'm just using the Joe Brady time takeaway
1:02:23
because it's been it's been a good sample size the most recent five games so
1:02:28
since Joe Brady has taken over as offensive coordinator, and so those games would
1:02:31
be against the Jets, against the Eagles, against the Chiefs, against the
1:02:35
Cowboys, and against the Chargers. Those five games, Stefan Diggs has twenty
1:02:39
three catches for two hundred and two yards. That's an average of four point
1:02:44
six receptions per game and forty point four yards per game. Again, significantly
1:02:52
black not good whatsoever. Teams are playing him withinside leverage. Their multitude of
1:02:58
things. They're playing him withinside leverage. They're clouding his side. They're playing
1:03:01
extreme with their split field safety splits. There's a clip and it's not even
1:03:07
like the balls on that hash like balls kind of middle of the field against
1:03:09
the Chiefs. And Chiefs run Cover two and you know what safety depth is
1:03:14
supposed to be in alignment in Cover two and Justin Reid, so Digs is
1:03:19
to the bottom of the field. Snead takes inside leverage and forces Digs outside.
1:03:23
Justin Reid is over the top. He's the split field safety to the
1:03:27
bottom. He's outside the numbers. He's between the numbers and the sideline,
1:03:31
like playing over the top of Digs exactly. That's how extreme. But again,
1:03:36
Spags has always been really good at limiting Digs, except for like Diggs
1:03:39
had one blow up game against the Chiefs. He's pretty much been limited in
1:03:43
every game for the Bills against the Chiefs. But that's how Spags thrown his
1:03:45
way. The Eagles have a rep where the Eagles. The Eagles are playing
1:03:51
Cover three. Bayered is one of the deep safeties. They take him right
1:03:55
off rip they so he comes down it's basically cover three sky, so he's
1:04:00
gonna play the flat. Instead of spinning him down or having him kind of
1:04:04
hang out and then cover the flat, they put him on digs and have
1:04:09
him jam Steffan digs at the line and then dropped in the flat like so
1:04:14
any type anything like sometimes and then you got other teams that are okay,
1:04:16
cool, We're literally gonna play man coverage inside outside or your man coverage,
1:04:19
or we're capping you over the top whatever. Like teams are giving Steffan digs
1:04:24
that attention, and you guess what I'm saying, Yeah, I'll give you
1:04:27
one the Pats did last year when they played in Julette. It was one
1:04:30
of my favorite coverages they ran all year. It was just crazy disguise where
1:04:33
like so first they shift the front so they had like one type of defensive
1:04:38
front and then rotated to something else. It's like leave down. I think
1:04:41
it was a long yarded situation so super unconventional that you're just like, okay,
1:04:45
crap, that was a weird looking now this is a weird like and
1:04:46
I'm not totally sure what to do adjust to that. Then they had like
1:04:50
the I think Miles Bryant was it a slot dropped into like a deep path.
1:04:55
Then they had invert to the other side, and then they had like
1:05:00
Jabrill Pepper's jamming against like Jefon thinks is outside the numbers. Bill Pepper follows
1:05:04
him just because he's the most physical guy all the defensive backs, jams digs,
1:05:10
and then passes him off to the cornerback who's playing the deep half like
1:05:14
it was. I'm like, I don't usually see Belichick just pull out like
1:05:17
all this stops to be like I'm gonna break your brain and I'm going to
1:05:21
show you right now, like yeah, I'm taking away everything you like to
1:05:25
do something about it. So to that point, like we can see some
1:05:28
wild stuff that Belichick is truly like no digs, not today, no thank
1:05:31
you. And so I'm wondering that's a such a great point because he's thrown
1:05:38
like conventional and non conventional looks in order to limit Stefon Diggs, like we
1:05:42
all know, like the euphemism or phrase or whatever. At this point,
1:05:45
like Bill Belichick always takes away like your best thing or whatever he thinks your
1:05:49
best thing is. He wants to put one hand behind your back and make
1:05:53
you fight with the other like if you're right handed, he wants to make
1:05:55
you fight left handed, and so on and so forth. But with what
1:05:58
teams have done, like Stefan Diggs is struggling from a production standpoint recently,
1:06:02
and it's not like it's really not like teams are doing anything super complicated where
1:06:08
you're like, wow, that's beautiful schematically, it's just literal things like they
1:06:12
know he's probably gonna run a slant or run a dig, or run a
1:06:15
basic or a drag, and they're just like, nope, we're gonna play
1:06:17
with inside leverage and make you work really hard to get open or make Allen
1:06:21
not look your ways. He's never had like a super complicated routree, Like
1:06:26
it's not really a Tyreek hill where he's in motion all the time and you
1:06:29
know he's got like it's usually yeah, he's in the slot and you know
1:06:31
he's probably gonna run a stick or like mesh or something like that. He's
1:06:34
outside, and when you're outside, you already your route tree is like based
1:06:39
on the formation, there's only like a handful of things you can even run.
1:06:41
So, I mean that does make sense. It's one of those things
1:06:43
that I think made dig so dominant was that he wasn't trying to trick you,
1:06:46
Like the scheme is very straightforward, but you can't stop him anyway.
1:06:50
So it's interesting that now maybe people were just catching up and being like,
1:06:54
all right, well maybe we just played in the tendencies. But I don't
1:06:56
know. I haven't gotten the study digs yet. So it's still fascinating because
1:07:00
I mean, he's just such a dominant guy that I've never seen a single
1:07:02
defensive back shut him down. It's usually just an off game like Allan's not
1:07:06
hitting him or something like that. So let's but again, this is the
1:07:10
comeback opportunity if he's going to have one anytime soon. And that's the like,
1:07:14
that's the thing too, like teams will be like, oh, we're
1:07:15
not gonna let you run the slam. We know you want to run the
1:07:17
slam, and he'll still be able to get open to a degree because he's
1:07:20
so good and so precise, and but teams have either taken him away or
1:07:27
made Allen come off him because of their initial look on the snap. And
1:07:30
again that's completely fine. Like if teams are going to invest that much effort
1:07:33
in stopping Stefan Diggs, cool that just means that's exactly why you have Stefon
1:07:39
Diggs cool. So go to Dalton kin k, go to Gabe Davis,
1:07:41
go to Dawson Knox, go to Khalil Security, use the run game like
1:07:44
whatever. Like that isn't bad in and of itself. It's bad if they
1:07:47
take Digs away and you're sluggish and things aren't working out like they have Bennett
1:07:51
Spurts this year. But I'm interested to see with the success teams have had
1:07:57
recently in taking Digs away. Again, it's not anything over convoluted or schematically
1:08:00
like brilliant. Does Belichick still view digs as the primary thing that has to
1:08:08
be taken away? One? That's my first question? Or two? Does
1:08:11
he think he can take him away more simplistically than he has in the past
1:08:16
and therefore be able to divert other resources towards stopping another thing that he values?
1:08:23
For example, does he think, listen, if we just play with
1:08:26
inside shade and technique a little bit and inside leverage, we can take away
1:08:31
sixty five seventy percent of what digs is gonna do. And if we just
1:08:34
do that, that allows me to add more bodies to the run and trying
1:08:38
to stop the run game or do something else, Like, I'm wondering his
1:08:42
resource allocation with this game, because also to your point, Joe Brady hasn't
1:08:46
really done much in trying to move Digs around. He's not sending him in
1:08:49
these motions, He's not really doing things to kind of alleviate some of the
1:08:55
quote unquote predictability or known quantity from Stefan Diggs. So will Belichick aim to
1:09:00
take Digs away as the number one? Will he be able to do it
1:09:04
in a more simplistic way so we can put resources towards something else. Does
1:09:08
he have another top game? Again? Maybe he thinks no, like I
1:09:11
can do this pretty easily, or that's not even my number one, it's
1:09:14
my number two now and I want to take away the run. I'm interested
1:09:17
to see what he wants to take away how he does it. Also,
1:09:21
time then into just with what it's been for Josh Allen, Like in recent
1:09:25
years, Allen and the Bills offense has been very successful against the Patriots defense
1:09:28
and very successful against Bill Belichick, which is a surprising piece. But just
1:09:31
what Digs is is super intriguing to me right now. And then how like
1:09:35
what Belichick might have to do to take him away isn't really too crazy?
1:09:41
And also to kind of put some perspectives so that again those recent five games
1:09:45
for Digs under Brady, that first game was against the Jets, so from
1:09:48
week eleven, So from week eleven through right now, there are one hundred
1:09:54
and seventeen players that have at least twenty targets, not just receivers, so
1:09:58
this is running backs, receivers, tight ends, anybody who has a target.
1:10:00
One hundred and seventeen players that have at least twenty targets. Do you
1:10:05
want to guess where Stefan Diggs is in terms of EPA per target since week
1:10:11
eleven one ten, ninety seventh at negative not that close, you're close,
1:10:18
You're thirteen off. So he's at ninety seventh. Well, I'm tied for
1:10:24
ninety seventh at negative zero point one nine four. Perspective for Bills fans,
1:10:29
Gabe Davis is thirtieth at positive point three to five. So Gabe Davis is
1:10:35
at point three to five. Stefon Diggs is at negative zero point one point
1:10:41
nine. Gabe Davis's thirtieth. Stefon Diggs is ninety seventh, ninety seventh out
1:10:45
of one hundred and seventeen players since week eleven in EPA per target. That
1:10:51
is where that that's how bad Stefan Diggs has been and the company that he's
1:10:57
in in that area. Let's go around here. Garrett Wilson is there,
1:11:01
but we know just how crazy things have been for that Jets offense. But
1:11:06
a lot of it is running back base because dudes are getting the ball checked
1:11:09
down to him. Guys get tackled. So Tony Pollard's there, Vjon Robinson
1:11:13
is there, Devon a Shane Jalen Warren, Dalton Kinkaid is one hundred and
1:11:16
second, Marquise Brown, Justin Watson, Robert Woods, Josh Jwns, Jonathan
1:11:23
Mingo to Mario Douglas, Darnell Mooney. That's the company of Wick. Shout
1:11:28
out to the Pats. That's the company that Stefon Diggs has been keeping from
1:11:31
an EPA per target perspective since week eleven, and again not the end of
1:11:34
the world. Like since week eleven, the Bills have those five games.
1:11:39
The Bills are four and one in those games, and they probably still should
1:11:42
have won that Philly game if Gabe Davis and Allen don't have that miscommunication in
1:11:45
ot that was more Josh Allen's fault than gave Davis's fault. That's what I'm
1:11:47
gonna say. I'm not going to get into it too much. Now,
1:11:49
they easily could be five to zero and you're sitting there talking about their best
1:11:55
player on offense aside from Josh Allen, one of the premier players in the
1:11:59
NFL, being horribly unproductive, and they still could be sitting here at five
1:12:03
and zero, but they're there at four and one. So again, it's
1:12:05
been a problem, but not enough to deter them from winning football games.
1:12:10
Has it made them struggle a bit? Yes, which is why I think
1:12:13
it's interesting in terms of how much does Belichick want to push that button or
1:12:16
does he not, and in which way and form and fashion like. I
1:12:19
think it's a real interesting piece because again it ties into that chest piece matchup.
1:12:25
I can see Belichick just being like, like we talked through all this,
1:12:28
it's like yeah, Like I can see somebody's sitting the like in advance
1:12:30
being like, yeah, I mean they're not really throwing things to the ball.
1:12:33
He's not getting numbers, and he's like, I don't care whatever the
1:12:38
stuff on dis right, We're gonna we're going the NFL. Damn, I
1:12:44
do a really good Belichick impression. You do a really good Belichick. Key
1:12:48
with the Belichick is you have to be like, what did he say?
1:12:51
What's he saying? And then you have to like volume up. Yeah,
1:12:55
dude, Durdon's training camp real quick, clear tangent. This man will go
1:12:59
up to the po to him, take the mic, drop it below his
1:13:02
head, then stick it down to his chest and then mumble and like it's
1:13:08
it's You're like standing right there and you're like, what is he saying something?
1:13:14
Are you looking around at the other beat guys, like what is this?
1:13:15
Normal? No? Literally, I learned my lesson. I misreported something
1:13:19
like I think like two months in the training camp because like impletely mishard what
1:13:24
he said, and then I go on Twitter, I'm like, oh,
1:13:26
he said not, And then he'll phrase stuff even like sometimes he said he
1:13:30
did not come to practice, and I'm like, why would you do that?
1:13:35
Why would you pause for that one if you've already started writing he did?
1:13:39
And then you're like, wait a minute, he didn't. He didn't,
1:13:41
he didn't come to he didn't come to practice, or he did?
1:13:44
Whoa? That was a silly tangent thing. Yeah, like no, genuinely,
1:13:47
he wants to make sure you have no idea what he's saying. But
1:13:50
yeah, I think early downs they're gonna throw everything at Josh Allen. They're
1:13:55
not gonna play like you know. Maybe you'll see like thirty five forty percent
1:13:59
cover three, then like twenty five percent cover one, or however the game
1:14:02
goes. But for the most part, I think he's gonna try to show
1:14:04
a lot of two high looks to discourage throws to Digs and then force you
1:14:09
to say, like, yeah, we can run the ball. Then he'll
1:14:11
drop a safety. But I think that Diggs is the priority, even with
1:14:14
all the success they're having against the run, Like this is an elite run
1:14:16
defense. So you say, I like my guys better than your guys.
1:14:20
I'm not selling out to stop the run. I'm selling out stuff steff On
1:14:23
Diggs. He'll kill me a lot faster if we let him pop off.
1:14:26
Then James Cook will. So I think it's still gonna be Digs is the
1:14:30
priority. But on early downs, you still take the run very seriously.
1:14:34
Certain situations. I think, of course, you'll know you'll see extra bodies
1:14:36
in the box you'll see like three sky where there's no rotation, it's just
1:14:40
a loaded box. But for the most part, I think they are going
1:14:43
to prioritize digs like easily and everybody else. Everybody else is there. Like
1:14:46
I said, Gave Davis is a talented player. Doesn't scare you because he's
1:14:49
not a guy where you're like, oh, he's gonna catch five six balls
1:14:53
on his like eight balls. He's not gonna catch that many, and if
1:14:56
he does, they're not usually all gonna be that same type of like deep
1:15:00
or something like that as long as you're playing sound coverage. So yeah,
1:15:01
I think it's it's the big show featuring James Cook and obviously Josh Allen's legs
1:15:06
and all that, like he is the you know, force multiplier. But
1:15:10
in terms of outside skill players. I love that point though, because it
1:15:14
again it ties into my first point of the run game, because if the
1:15:17
Pats are like, no, we're good stopping your run with like seven or
1:15:20
even like six at times, so we can we can do that and also
1:15:26
have resources to take digs away, so good luck like figuring something else out,
1:15:30
and also we're probably gonna do some The Pats did something really nice that
1:15:34
I liked in the first game and actually was driving me nuts on Twitter.
1:15:38
I showed so many like clips and plays of like past stuff and people will
1:15:42
be like, people would screenshot it and be like, I can't believe Alan
1:15:45
didn't run here, Why wasn't he running? And they'd screenshot like the wider
1:15:49
and I'd be like, the reason he didn't run is because the Patriots were
1:15:53
baiting him. Because if you waited another quarter of a second and took the
1:15:57
screenshot that edges are looping back inside like they were baiting Alan to run.
1:16:01
It was like the nice little those little mental games that they like to play
1:16:04
with Alan, and so all of it like tying in together. Yeah,
1:16:08
I'm interested. I'm again, I'm extremely nervous, but also interested to see
1:16:11
that little matchup piece. All right, Taylor, your last point, what
1:16:15
do you got Bills Ross Pats matchup piece number three that will decide this game.
1:16:19
So this is gonna be the Patriots offensive line versus the Bills front.
1:16:23
Con mccopp belcoms's two position groups, but the Patriots offensive line is decimated,
1:16:28
so their best player is Trent Brown. He got rolled up on the last
1:16:31
time he played the bills. I think I mentioned that earlier in the show.
1:16:34
But yeah, he's been hurt for a very long time. Hasn't been
1:16:38
able to play a full game at full strength since then. Was part of
1:16:41
a rotation with the Darian Lowe last week, the Darien Lowe. Such a
1:16:44
nice guy, such a nice guy. And that's where I'll leave it.
1:16:48
You're gonna say when you lead with that, that's like being somebody like,
1:16:51
oh, like Timmy's got a new girlfriend and they're like, oh, what's
1:16:54
she like you? My man? She's so funny. Yes, she's hilarious
1:16:59
man all but let's not ask any more questions. That's the It's the exact
1:17:03
same thing, where like a really great guy, but you know, football
1:17:08
is not his strength at this point in his career. Col Strange on injur
1:17:13
deserve because he had a knee injury. So now he had Antonio Maffi who
1:17:15
should not be playing. He cannot sustain blocks, he's got slow foot speed.
1:17:19
Another guy who's a solid dude, great story. Used to be a
1:17:23
nose tackle, chip turned him into a He had some of my favorite clips
1:17:28
coming into like draft season because he would just bearmall dudes. But I was
1:17:30
not expecting him to be seeing starting reps at any point as a rookie.
1:17:35
He just he was a fourth round pick. Yeah, a little bit early,
1:17:44
but I mean the thing is, you like the fiscal tools, like
1:17:45
he seemed like an easy plugin for Mike and Wendu you know, down the
1:17:48
road. But like his hands, man, he it feels like he's blocking
1:17:53
like this all the time. We're just like sliding off and it's like,
1:17:57
grab them. What are you doing? Use your fingers, pomps. You
1:18:00
are not a cat. It's wild just watching how we just sliding over and
1:18:05
it's like you're allowed to grab them. This is not beach football, Like
1:18:10
you're good, but he can't sustain a block. David Andrews is doing his
1:18:13
best out there. The guy's like thirty three, thirty four years old.
1:18:15
Wiley Vett played every snap like just got the award for the good guy above
1:18:20
the beat. Reporters like David Andrews is awesome. We love him, but
1:18:24
still he came into the league where his athletic skill set wasn't great. He
1:18:27
was athletic, but he was undersized and you know, not a great athlete.
1:18:30
And now he's older, smarts are all there, but you know he'll
1:18:33
lose if if he's out matching one on one or if you get him on
1:18:35
a stunt. Right guard. H he's a right guard. So city has
1:18:43
been okay, but I mean he's a rookie. Also, you got two
1:18:45
rookie starting inside. He's still learning. There's a lot of mental mistakes on
1:18:48
his tape. And then miken Wanu, who's really good, like good all
1:18:51
around offensive lineman, but he's a guard. He is somehouse arriving at right
1:18:57
tackle because he's got great athletes, is three hundred and fifty pound, but
1:19:00
you saw him stuggle last week. You know if he has to line up
1:19:02
against like a Bond Miller consistently or something like that. I don't know his
1:19:05
status. How is he is he let's not talk about him, okay.
1:19:10
Also for yeah, he's a he's a I don't want to like rile up
1:19:14
the chat or anybody, but he's just I didn't expect much from him this
1:19:18
year. He's thirty thirty four in this season, second time he's torn that
1:19:24
ACL, so it's a it's another ACL tear and in need that he's already
1:19:27
torn the ACL. He's thirty four, there's already a lot of miles on
1:19:30
the targets. I wasn't expecting much from him this year, and it usually
1:19:32
you have also had that general rule of thumb that usually it's that second year
1:19:36
back from the injury where you see guys start to regain some of their form.
1:19:40
I think the reason he's under such a microscope is the injury to Deikwon
1:19:44
Jones and Trey White and Matt Mulano and all the injuries that have happened defensively
1:19:48
have made it priority for other guys to have to step up. And then
1:19:54
Greg Russeau was banged up for a little bit. Ajpanessa has been banged up,
1:19:57
so like the edge grouping has been messed up a little bit. But
1:20:00
he's very much a shell of his former self. There's no He's been good
1:20:04
at compressing the pocket at times, like walking a tackle back into the backfield
1:20:09
with some speed to power, getting two hands into the chest or a long
1:20:12
arm and driving things back, but there's just no burst. There's no juice
1:20:15
to his game. I don't know if it's I don't know if it's something
1:20:19
that'll that can be regained with a full off season that isn't built upon rehabbing
1:20:24
that knee. Like he gets a regular offseason this year, we'll see what
1:20:27
he can do or this coming off season. But right now, he does
1:20:30
not pose any sort of threat whatsoever. This will be clipped after he has
1:20:33
like a three sack game against the Patriots, and I'll be proven wrong,
1:20:36
but right now, he's I hate being super negative because again, these guys
1:20:43
are in the NFL and he got banged up. But he's pretty non existent.
1:20:45
Like you might see some kind of flash, but that flash is like
1:20:49
pocket compression. Like he's he's pretty non existent and ineffective. And I actually
1:20:54
think that now that I remember it. This the Bills game was the first
1:20:57
game that in when he switched to tackle full time, and then he did
1:21:00
have two or three wins against him, where like I don't think you got
1:21:03
a pressure, but he beat him pretty fast and again like anybody, and
1:21:09
in that only three plays or something like that, it was like he barely
1:21:11
played. Bro. Yeah, I would say I looked it up earlier and
1:21:14
I'm grabbing it right now. In that game, Yeah, von Miller had
1:21:16
six snaps in that game against From a pass rush perspective, yeah, there
1:21:23
you go. Yep. So like he barely played. But yeah, that's
1:21:25
the offensive line. Not great, bob uh. Your best player is at
1:21:28
center and at right tackle, and then you got rookies at both guard spots
1:21:30
and Venerian low good guy at left tackling. So not good. But worse
1:21:36
than that is that Bailey's appy. You know, I really do think he
1:21:40
had his best game like of his career last week, where he was like
1:21:43
slinging it down field. He completed all five of his deep attempts, was
1:21:45
buying time in the pocket, moving around like he he is night and day.
1:21:49
Different than what you saw for Mac Jones, where Mac just had been
1:21:53
beaten up so much and had so little faith in his receivers that you saw
1:21:58
he was just taking all the easy stuff. It's the Bills that was his
1:22:00
best game of the season. But still, like Bailey, Zappi is playing
1:22:04
at a higher level. Still, defenses don't respect him so on early downs,
1:22:10
especially the Pats are under center, They're just a blitzing like crazy.
1:22:13
And usually the Patriots have success against the Bills because they handle that blitz scheme
1:22:17
pretty well. In all the aggressiveness the backs of patient and exploit lanes,
1:22:21
and usually when the line has chemistry and they are in sync. It's much
1:22:25
easier to pass those things off because you know how everybody around you is going
1:22:28
to do it. You see it, you react, you know, you
1:22:30
trust the guys around you. It's fine. But when you have rookies inside
1:22:32
who are still learning, you see every week that they're not picking it up
1:22:36
in time. They're having to think faster because everything's coming at them and people
1:22:40
are firing downhill. They don't have time to get to the second level.
1:22:44
Plus they're just not making their basic blocks anyway. So the run game has
1:22:46
been non existing against two of the worst run defenses in the NFL. So
1:22:49
I don't think they're going to be able to run, which is just going
1:22:51
to make it even harder from the past block, which they can barely do
1:22:54
as it is, So that's going to be a massive factor. I think
1:22:57
Bailey's going to try to get the ball out of his hands on time and
1:22:59
avoid the push. But I also think that he's gonna have to work some
1:23:02
magic because it's not going to be pretty big there. You know, I'm
1:23:08
like so wary of getting lured into this trap again, where the last time
1:23:12
we were just talking about how bad the Patriots offense was and then they just
1:23:15
came in and just played really good football like against the Bills, and it
1:23:21
just, oh, I'm so wary of getting cont in this trap, but
1:23:25
alas I am going to get can in the trap. I'm gonna piggyback on
1:23:28
your Pats offense, point and tight and with just kind of like overall like
1:23:32
higher ant of thoughts than bringing into the offensive line. So again, still
1:23:35
having nightmares about that Week seven performance. I want to put into perspective the
1:23:40
Patriots offensive performance in Week seven against the Bills versus what they are on the
1:23:45
year. Okay, okay, here we are. So on the year,
1:23:49
the Patriots offense thirtieth in EPA per play week seven against the Bills, third
1:23:56
in EPA per play on the year, twenty seventh in success week seven against
1:24:00
the Bills, second in success rate, twenty seventh in pass success rate on
1:24:05
the year, sixth in passing success rate in week seven, fourteenth rushing success
1:24:12
rate on the year, second rushing success rate in Week seven. They scored
1:24:16
twenty nine points against the Bills in Week seven, their highest point production all
1:24:23
year. On the year, they are averaging fourteen point one points per game,
1:24:28
which is last in the league, so they doubled their points per game
1:24:31
in that Week seven performance against the Bills. They also had three hundred and
1:24:35
sixty four yards, which is way more than their average of two hundred and
1:24:40
eighty five point five on the year, which is twenty eighth. Also again
1:24:45
quarterback, this time will be Bailey's Appy, but in Week seven mac Jones
1:24:49
had a passer rating of one twenty six point seven. His passer rating on
1:24:55
the year seventy seven point zero, almost fifty full points higher in Week seven
1:25:03
than his yearly average. His second highest passer rating of the year came in
1:25:08
Week one against the Eagles. It was ninety one point three, so almost
1:25:13
a full so over thirty points difference between the first and second. The numbers
1:25:16
for the Pats offense and mac Jones aren't even in the same realm or friggin
1:25:21
universe. Like it's I go ahead, I can't even speak, I will
1:25:27
say though, So that was Max's only one hundred passer rating of one hundred
1:25:30
or higher. Zappie's had two. So he said two of the three games
1:25:34
of Pats have had with one hundred or plus passer rating, and that was
1:25:39
in two of the past three weeks. So again I think he also has
1:25:43
more deep completions in four starts or like in the time he's played that then
1:25:46
that had all season. I think he has eight deep completions and that got
1:25:49
like three. So again this is even expect them to be carbon copies of
1:25:55
each other. But you saw a version of Mac that just like was not
1:25:58
what he you know, what anybody I think really expecting to be. Although
1:26:00
again that was his best performance. He played some good ball. But Zappi
1:26:04
is like not the same guy in the pocket. He looks much different.
1:26:08
He's much more aggressive. Like you saw mac O doubtfuild the pop a couple
1:26:13
times, like you're gonna see I think, what did Max take like three
1:26:15
year something like that shots against the Bills. You probably see like five or
1:26:18
six from Zapi. So that was a good stapo from you. So Mac
1:26:23
Jones on the year, who's played obviously way more games than Bailey's Appy,
1:26:28
he has six completions above twenty yards Bailey's Appy in his short time here playing
1:26:33
for the Pats this year, he already has eight. Bailey's Appy is eight
1:26:38
of twenty above twenty. Mac Jones is six of thirty one bad. Yeah,
1:26:45
and Bailey's appy is more like to your point, like on rhythm work
1:26:48
the intermediate and underneath. But as he's been getting more comfortable, he's starting
1:26:51
to get to the deeper parts of the progressions and working through. And I'm
1:26:55
also interested to see how that works with what the Pats offense does against the
1:27:00
Bills. We in that Week seven game Pats against the Bills. Granted again
1:27:02
it was mac Jones. Mac Jones' time to throw in that game was two
1:27:06
point two seconds. Now on the air, he's like two two five two
1:27:11
six, so it's in the similar realm. Two point two seconds is lightning
1:27:15
quick. You had no chance to do anything as a pass rush. And
1:27:18
the reason that bro that's it and then hope you knock it down. And
1:27:23
the reason he was able to be in that two point two realm consistently and
1:27:27
be in such rhythm the Bills were doing. The marriage between pass rushing coverage
1:27:30
was non existent in that game and mac Jones was just working the quick short
1:27:35
throws underneath. He was able to just do wherever he was hitting the seams
1:27:39
he was hitting it lived in between the numbers and in the middle field was
1:27:43
able to just dissect the Bills. He worked his progressions, but he really
1:27:46
didn't even have to go past his first or second read. Majority of the
1:27:48
time, it was snap one, two ball out, snap one two,
1:27:53
three ball out. That was it. And this Bill's defense is different than
1:27:57
it was back then. I think they were still very very much reeling from
1:28:00
the injuries that they had had. Trey White went out three weeks before,
1:28:03
Matt Mlano and Daikwon Jones both went out two weeks before, and Oliver didn't
1:28:09
play in that Week seven game against the Patriots. There was no Rasoul Douglass
1:28:13
at the time. He was traded for later, So it's a different team
1:28:15
from a roster perspective. But I also think they've course corrected a bit and
1:28:18
have more of a semblance of identity now than they did in that Week seven
1:28:24
game, just because they were still reeling from the injuries, both on the
1:28:27
field and from the impact mentally, knowing like, yo, these dudes are
1:28:30
really good players, They're very important. These are our brothers. They're done
1:28:33
for the year. Like potentially this sucks like it was emotional, it was
1:28:35
physical manifested on the field. We'll see how the week progresses. For the
1:28:40
current injuries they have, But my overall point here is just keeping the Patriots
1:28:45
offense in check. And similar to your to talking about the old line,
1:28:49
I thought that even with that Oliver out and Daikwon Jones being out, I
1:28:51
thought the Bills had the advantage holistically with their defense versus the Pats offense.
1:28:58
The only thing you couldn't let the pay do in Week seven just loo Romandre
1:29:02
Stevenson is sick. Just don't let him get Rimandre Stevenson going. And that's
1:29:06
what the Patriots did in the first drive. It was literally, ah,
1:29:09
your smirk, I just want to punch you right in the mouth. Like
1:29:11
it was just Remondre Stevenson, like down the throat, down the throat,
1:29:15
down the throat. He got going, he got going. They worked it
1:29:17
into the play action game rhythm for Mac Jones. It was literally like there
1:29:21
were two things you couldn't do. The first one was the biggest, just
1:29:25
don't let them run the ball effectively. They let them do that. And
1:29:28
then the second one, just don't let mac Jones get in rhythm, which
1:29:30
is super easy to do because Mac Jones sucks and they let him get into
1:29:34
rhythm. So I'm just it's arguably my most important point here, just because
1:29:40
their offense is still really bad and it was really bad before, and I'm
1:29:44
just still very wary of being like, oh, well, they have the
1:29:46
advantage, they should be good to go. But they had the advantage in
1:29:48
week seven even though they were reeling a little bit, and the Pats made
1:29:53
it look not that way, and I'm nervous and scared, and that's where
1:29:57
my head is at. Wait did we even get to yours? I know
1:30:00
we love our tangents. Was that all just on the offensive line defensive line?
1:30:05
No? That was my point in general, is just keeping the Pats
1:30:08
offense in check, but it ties you down the point of like the Pats
1:30:12
offense is so wounded and banged up, but like they also weren't great in
1:30:15
week seven, and they also weren't a threat in week seven, Like they're
1:30:18
kind of not a threat now, but like Bailey's appy is better than mac
1:30:21
Jones right now. But then their offensive line is banged up worse, and
1:30:25
then the weapons are worse because there's no remind there's all these like things where
1:30:28
it's like, oh, well, this should be like hands up or like
1:30:30
thumbs up for the Bills, but it should have been in week seven as
1:30:33
well, and so I'm just like, I feel like, yeah, I'm
1:30:36
half in, half out. I'm scared and worried. Three things to watch
1:30:40
out for. This is like Bailey's appy shots DeVante Parker one on one.
1:30:45
If he has one on one, he's gonna try to hit him on a
1:30:46
deep all. Honestly, I thought Zvante Parker couldn't do it anymore. He's
1:30:50
actually been doing it pretty consistently because Zappi keeps saying that every week, like
1:30:54
I like my guys better than your guys. I don't know where the hell
1:30:57
he got that from, but it's actually been working tight ends in the red
1:31:00
zone, like Hunter Henry, I think I had a touchdown in like three
1:31:02
straight games or something like that, and then Mike ish Sicky I believed he
1:31:05
was gonna have one. Casuter Henry was out lo and behold he has a
1:31:09
touchdown and then uh Zeke Elliott on a little pick. Plays in the red
1:31:14
zone. Those are like the bread and butter. That's where a lot of
1:31:16
their you know, scores, the big plays have come from it. Shots
1:31:19
at DeVante Parker, there's some stuff underneath the pop. Douglas a little bit
1:31:23
of crossings, crossing routes, and then it's gonna be the red zone tight
1:31:28
ends and the running backs. That's what you gotta watch out for, and
1:31:30
we'll see what it brings. Again, they had the advantage of week seven.
1:31:33
I know this is a different both teams are different teams at this point
1:31:36
right now, but the advantage still looms for the Bills like it did in
1:31:39
week seven, and we'll see what happens, what it brings. Mister Taylor
1:31:42
Kyle's we went extremely long here. I didn't even really realize the time.
1:31:47
It's late. You gotta go take care of your cat. I'm sure she's
1:31:50
grilling the hell out of you, like offscreen, like why are you still
1:31:53
doing this? But she grab her bring the camera out. No, you're,
1:31:59
like I said in the intro, bringing you on like you are one
1:32:01
of my favorite people that I've ever had on the show. It's part of
1:32:03
the reason I continue to bring it back. And yeah, I just enjoy
1:32:06
you, know how you see the game and your knowledge of it and then
1:32:09
who you are as a person. You know, we DM, but we
1:32:12
also have each other's phone numbers and we text and do all that good stuff.
1:32:14
You are tremendous. The floor is yours before you dip. Tell everybody
1:32:17
who you are, what you do, where they can find your work,
1:32:19
anything and everything, and the floor is yours to you know wax poetically appreciate
1:32:25
you, buddy, football wise, human being wise, one of the best.
1:32:28
Thank you for having me on as always. You're gonna be on my
1:32:31
show on Patriots CLS YouTube channel. We're gonna do film with friends on Thursday.
1:32:35
Should be at seven o'clock, so tune in for that. And then
1:32:38
yeah, you can find me at t Kyles thirty nine right there. That's
1:32:41
where I'm on Twitter. And then CLS media dot com is where you can
1:32:45
find my written work. If you're curious about what the hell the Patriots are
1:32:47
doing with the rest of the season. I just did an article talking about
1:32:49
Belichick's future, whether Bailey Sappy might be the answer quarterback. It's a little
1:32:55
more of interesting in my conversation than you might think. And then I'm sure
1:32:58
you don't care about the Patriots drafts up, but if you are, there's
1:33:00
a little segment on no, no, but everybody should because nobody. If
1:33:03
you're a Bills fan, you should not want the Patriots to get better.
1:33:05
Therefore, you should try and figure out what they're going to do and hope
1:33:09
that it does not come to fruition. Continue always think died. I knew
1:33:14
it. I was trying to get him out before is uh he lost connection
1:33:17
and died. But that is mister Taylor Kyles. I appreciate the hell out
1:33:21
of him as always for joining me here on the show. As Nicholas said,
1:33:27
uh in the comments there prohant dude crush. Where is it? Yeah,
1:33:32
I would say, But as Spinn says and has a lot of do
1:33:35
CHRISTI yeah, I've got a lot of dudes who I brought on the show
1:33:38
who I think it's it's also again it makes sense like the people I bring
1:33:42
on the show like I'm genuine fans of their work. Like I don't bring
1:33:45
anybody on the show just to kind of like you know, be a warm
1:33:49
body or fill a spot. Like if I don't think there's someone that can
1:33:53
bring genuine value to the show, I'm not going to bring him on the
1:33:58
show. Like the reason I bring them on is because I value their content.
1:34:00
I would never bring somebody on just again just to be like a warm
1:34:03
body if I'm not valuing their work, Like, I'm not going to bring
1:34:06
them on just to spew stuff to you guys. So the people who I
1:34:11
bring on, I'm genuine fans of. I follow them legitimately, follow them,
1:34:14
you know, for their content, for what they do. And Taylor
1:34:16
is absolutely one of those dudes. And I think I was also too,
1:34:19
Like what I mentioned about Taylor, Like, you know, the way he
1:34:24
breaks down the game. He's a big All twenty two dude. He's a
1:34:26
tape and film kind of guy, and I think that's why I gravitate towards
1:34:29
his work. Like Taylor is one of those follows where, yeah, he's
1:34:31
doing a lot of Patriots stuff, but the things he's talking about are scheme
1:34:36
and structure. So yes, it's through a Patriots lens, but you're still
1:34:41
getting to learn certain coverages and certain aspects and certain pieces and certain rush calls
1:34:45
and certain fronts and all that kind of stuff. So he's a follow again
1:34:49
that gives you insight into the Patriots, which I think everybody should do because
1:34:53
if you are a Bills fan, you need to stay up on every other
1:34:55
team. Oh, let's bring him up, Taylor, can you see?
1:34:57
Can you hear? Oh? I think we can't hear you. I can't
1:35:02
hear you. Oh oh, I was gonna bring it back and say bye.
1:35:05
I was cool letting you ride off. I can't hear you. Yeah,
1:35:09
you want to finishing okay, Yeah, I didn't want to leave like
1:35:11
that. My bad. I was trying to be sneaky with my dying battery.
1:35:15
But you know here I am. But yeah, no, thank you
1:35:16
all, you all. I love this community so much. You guys are
1:35:18
awesome. But yeah, I don't know where I even finished off. But
1:35:23
at Tea Cows thirty nine on Twitter, US media dot Com. I'm gonna
1:35:27
have, like I said, the article, and then I'm gonna have a
1:35:29
Bill's Patriots preview with three key matchups and then Patriots C and S where I
1:35:32
will have filmed with Friends with Anthony later this week. I appreciate you coming
1:35:36
back from the dead to say you're goodbyes. I appreciate you. Go uh
1:35:40
yeah, go charge the battery, get some sleep, whatever you gotta do.
1:35:43
I'll text you after this. I appreciate the hell out of you,
1:35:45
and yeah, godspeed, its buddy, thank you, not everybody. Yeah,
1:35:50
but he's truly uh, I love because even that just the the kindness
1:35:54
and the genuineness to recharge and reconnect the stuff to come back and say goodbye.
1:35:58
Yeah, dude is good stuff. Oh that's funny. I like this
1:36:00
from Spitches at Me. We get to start the show all over. I'm
1:36:03
fine with that. I don't think I have another hour and a half in
1:36:05
me. I'm still very much. I'm reeling from Christmas. I have a
1:36:12
lot of family and friends, as does the wife, and so we were
1:36:15
we call it seven Chris Christmases because we have so many Christmases with different friends
1:36:19
and family and groupings. I'm reeling like I'm on the struggle bus right now
1:36:23
with how sleep being tired. I am so I don't have anything to start
1:36:25
it over. But I like the joke and I appreciate that spin. Yeah,
1:36:28
Taylor's awesome again. Check out his content everything he does. I always
1:36:30
think it's important to get insight into your opponents, so you know who and
1:36:33
what they are, so you're prepped on a matchup. That way, you
1:36:35
don't come into a game thinking you know wrong on either side. You don't
1:36:40
get too high, you don't get too low. He's one of those dudes
1:36:43
that provides objective analysis on the Patriots, but also he will help you learn
1:36:46
football at the same time. It's very much a model that I gravitate towards.
1:36:49
And that's the type of content again selfishly like I try to provide that
1:36:53
as well. Like everything I do is, you know, majority of it
1:36:55
is through a buffalo Bill's lens, except for draft prospects stuff. I just
1:36:58
break down a lot of players individually from an evaluation standpoint, but I always
1:37:01
try to to you know, content I provide is Bill stuff, but it's
1:37:04
through an overall like football landscape, so that you know you're seeing stuff on
1:37:09
the bills, but you're also learning about coverages and rush techniques and what a
1:37:12
good rush looks like, and what a bad disc looks like, what a
1:37:15
good route is, what good technique is for this, and so on and
1:37:17
so forth, the scheme, individual structure, individual evaluation, all that stuff.
1:37:21
And he's very much in that book. GI him a follow He's fantastic.
1:37:25
Ralph says, do you take the trees with you on your travels?
1:37:27
No? Do not. The trees They are cemented figuratively in this room.
1:37:33
But that's funny. I like where your heads that I like where your head's
1:37:35
at. T Dobb says and crunches the numbers like the guy in the Beautiful
1:37:41
mid movie. That's funny. I wish his mind is absolutely tremendous. I
1:37:44
use the numbers just to kind of put things in perspective. I'm very much
1:37:46
like a film first kind of guy, you know, both with this show
1:37:48
and then obviously with the film room with Eric Turner on Wednesdays. I trust
1:37:55
the tape and I trust the eyes more than I do the numbers, But
1:37:58
the numbers are important in putting the holistic picture together. The numbers kind of
1:38:04
put into perspective what you're seeing, and I think being able to quantify what
1:38:10
you're seeing is important. Or you can work backwards and start with the numbers
1:38:15
and then when you're watching on tape know kind of where you want to start
1:38:18
and where you want to look for and what you want to do. So
1:38:21
I think the numbers are always going to be super important, but I use
1:38:26
them in the auxiliary or support piece to the film aspect, which guides me
1:38:30
in almost anything and everything I do. But yeah, major thank you to
1:38:31
mister Taylor Kyle's any questions, thoughts, commons, concerns, anything you folks
1:38:35
got for this game, coming up against the Pats, coming out of the
1:38:40
Chargers game, anything and everything that is on your mind, start to throw
1:38:43
it up into the chat. I've started some things as Taylor and I were
1:38:45
going on a while ago, but anything you guys got or girls got,
1:38:48
feel free to throw it up into the chat. Right now. I want
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this comment from Dobbs says and has a suitcase tree where he travels. I
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like that. I wish I had that, like just a separate a separate
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suitcase for the tree or found like a like a compactable tree that I can
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like break down and like like it just to a fit in my fist and
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I can put it in my bag and then like expand it and open it
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room or anything and everything like that. That's funny. I like that.
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Well done, Well done. I appreciate you, Richard, Thank you very
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much. Yeah, it's been uh. Richard says, it's a pop up
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tree exactly. You're just like it just it just unfolds and just expands like
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a tent, like a tent for camping, but instead of a tent,
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it's a tree. I like that. I like that a lot. Steve
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saying the Bills are absolutely blessed that the Ravens have so much on the line
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when they play Miami this week. Huge for US late in season. Yeah,
1:41:00
I think that's a fair statement and fair to have some eyes on that
1:41:03
game, which I know everybody does. I really thought or think that Miami
1:41:09
would lose one of these two games against Dallas. I see that comment Richard
1:41:15
that you just put in there. That's very funny. Well done. I
1:41:17
really thought Miami would lose to Dallas or Baltimore. I hate to use one
1:41:21
example or one thing, is you know, being well, if they would
1:41:25
have had this, you know, it would have changed a complete complexion of
1:41:28
the game, or Dallas would have won. Like Dallas fumbling on the goal
1:41:30
line to start that game. Man, it's just annoying knowing they lost by
1:41:34
two, knowing they should have had at least three in that scenario. But
1:41:39
again, it was so earlier in the game, and god knows what avenues
1:41:42
or branches or offshoots would have happened after that point if Dallas scores there.
1:41:45
But yeah, I really thought Miami would lose one of these two games against
1:41:48
Dallas and Baltimore. They obviously won against Dallas and they go up against Baltimore,
1:41:53
who I've said it on this show for the past several years and other
1:41:57
shows as well. I thought that Baltimore Ravens, even with you know,
1:42:01
even when they had Greg Roman Asueroc, I always thought the Ravens were one
1:42:06
of the best teams in football. These past couple of years, they just
1:42:09
have not been healthy ever ever, ever, and even this year they've been
1:42:12
banged up a whole bunch. The offensive line has been banged up, They've
1:42:15
been banged up in the secondary, like the receivers get banged up. It
1:42:17
seems like they can just never stay healthy. And even last year being down
1:42:21
a bunch of dudes, including Lamar Jackson, they probably should have beaten the
1:42:27
Cincinnati Bengals in Cincinnati in that wild card round. You know, Tyler Huntley
1:42:30
gets stopped at the one yard line on a huge run and then I think
1:42:33
literally the next play later is that fumble and Sam Hubbard takes it back for
1:42:36
a touchdown. Like the Cincinnati Bengals team, they went to the AFC Championship
1:42:41
and could have went to the Super Bowl again like a backup quarterback. Led
1:42:44
Ravens team with a ton of other injuries went into their house and should have
1:42:47
won that game. Like this Ravens team is a quality unit. You know,
1:42:51
as Richard says right now in the comments, that d for the Ravens
1:42:54
look pretty good. Yeah, they've got a unit led by Mike McDonald who
1:43:00
coaches them in a way to be whatever they need to be in order to
1:43:03
beat their opponent. And the reason they're able to do that defensively is because
1:43:09
of the versatility they have on the back end, like they are a group
1:43:13
actually not even on the back end really overall, but they're a group defensively
1:43:15
that has the versatility to kind of be whoever they need to be in order
1:43:20
to beat you. Like They've got guys that can rush, and those same
1:43:23
guys that can rush can also drop. They're stout enough against the rum,
1:43:27
but they're also athletic enough to drop into coverage. You've got guys like Kyle
1:43:30
Hamilton who can play deep, who can play as an apex, who can
1:43:32
play in the box. Marcus Williams is back there, like Gino Stone is
1:43:35
playing out of his mind and getting picks. Marlon Humphrey is a really good
1:43:39
corner who can also apparently now flex back into the inside as like a nickel
1:43:43
corner. Like you're getting tons of good play from Brandon Stevens. Gino Stone
1:43:46
led the NFL in interceptions at one point, along with like Derom Plan and
1:43:49
then Rokwan Smith is that star there, the straw that stirs the drink on
1:43:54
the inside as the guy who gets everybody right. One of the best linebackers
1:43:57
in football, but also allows Patrick Queen, the other starting linebacker to just
1:44:02
do what he does best, which has come forward and play like a heat
1:44:05
seeking missile as a blitzer or against the run. They're stout in the middle.
1:44:09
They're a really good defensive unit overall, but then offensively too. Yeah,
1:44:13
Like, even though they've lost Mark Andrews and the receiving consistency hasn't been
1:44:16
there, and they've lost running backs, and their offensive line has been banged
1:44:20
up, and they're learning under a first year offensive coordinator, so everybody's playing
1:44:24
in this system for the first time, and it's a drastically different system than
1:44:28
it was under Greg Roman. This team continues to trudge along, and I
1:44:32
think, you know, looking past this game from Miami, I think Baltimore
1:44:35
is the most complete team in the NFL. I think the Bills were in
1:44:40
that conversation or probably leading it before all the injuries happened defensively, even with
1:44:45
you know, the quote unquote struggles earlier in the year offensively. But I
1:44:47
think the Ravens are the most complete team in football. And I hope they
1:44:50
play like at this Sunday against Miami. And like you said, Steve,
1:44:54
there is a lot on the line for Baltimore if they lose to Miami.
1:44:57
They'll have the same record and thus will be behind Miami from a head to
1:45:01
head standpoint in Miami would leapfrog them for the number one seed in the AFC,
1:45:05
which means Miami would win the division, but would also still be playing
1:45:10
hard against the Bills in Week eighteen trying to wrap up that number one seed.
1:45:13
So it's all hands on deck rooting for the Ravens. And I thought
1:45:15
Miami would lose at least one of these games. I honestly thought they'd lose
1:45:18
both. I thought they would lose the Dallas and I thought they lose to
1:45:20
Baltimore. But every Bills fan needs to be a Ravens fan. This upcoming
1:45:25
Sunday, Hopefully Baltimore takes care of business, and I really think they can.
1:45:28
Again, I think they're one of the best teams in football, and
1:45:32
again not just in the AFC but in football in general. They're a quality
1:45:35
unit. But Bill's got to take care of business first against the Patriots.
1:45:38
We'll see what happens. I like this from Aid in AFC North should just
1:45:44
be renamed the AFC Defense at this point. I like that that's fair.
1:45:47
Oh, as Spinn says, Yeah, Wattle being out is a huge hit
1:45:50
for Miami against Baltimore. Is Jalen Wattle officially out or is it just looking
1:45:58
like he's not going to play? Googling it right now? If anybody knows
1:46:00
the answer already, feel free, Okay, I'll say yeah. I think
1:46:03
Mike mccannon just said, yeah, high ankle injury. It's gonna it's gonna
1:46:09
be tricky to be optimistic about, or it's tricky, but he's optimistic about
1:46:13
his prospect. It sounds like Wattle's not gonna play. He's been banged up
1:46:15
all year, ankle stuff, a lot of lower body injury stuff for him,
1:46:19
like ankle, foot, like knee kind of stuff. I know Hill
1:46:23
has had his share as well, but Wattle's been banged up since like literally
1:46:26
like week one, I think all year and just has not been right.
1:46:28
But yeah, that will be a huge hit if he's unable to go.
1:46:30
So much of what they do we know at this point, the passing windows
1:46:34
and the spacing and the leverage and so much of that is created offensively.
1:46:40
Because of the speed that Wattle has Hill has devan a chain is still a
1:46:44
huge threat. I should look up or what's the number I've tweeted it out
1:46:48
before, but the numbers that Devon a Chain is putting up as a running
1:46:53
back, and and that's even with time missed again limits his opportunities, but
1:46:57
also kind of gives him, oh the opper tunity to take advantage from sample
1:47:00
size davon a Chain amongst sixty one qualifying running backs, he's first in EPA
1:47:05
per carry at point three four. This was going into this past week first
1:47:09
in EPA per carry at point three four. Kyraen Williams of the Rams was
1:47:13
second at point one two. So the difference in EPA per carry between a
1:47:16
Chain and Kyron Williams is the same as the difference between kyra and Williams and
1:47:20
Ceh at thirty nine. So we'll see if Miami just leans into the run
1:47:25
a little bit more with moster and with a Chain. But again there to
1:47:29
the point, Baltimore players were a good run defense and they're still in the
1:47:32
middle of Matta Bouquet is having a really good year and again having Queen and
1:47:35
what he's able to do coming forward and the rest of that group up front,
1:47:39
they're a real quality unit on that side of the ball. So you
1:47:41
know, all hands on deck rooting for the Baltimore Ravens and obviously cheering out
1:47:44
the Buffalo Bills in terms of how they stack up against New New England Patriots.
1:47:47
I'm gonna throw the tootles, folks banner up here before anybody starts to
1:47:51
dip. If you are thinking about that, please, if you have not
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already, please please please, And they could drop a Leke on this video.
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It goes a sincerely long way towards helping myself in the entire team to
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track and trend in front of more eyes and ears. So if you're watching
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this video live right now before you leave, please please please think you drop
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Alke. It goes a long way. If you're watching later and post live,
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that's cool too. Please drop Alke on this video. Again, it
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goes a long way to tell myself and they can tell your team. I
1:48:15
want to thank everybody for tuning in live to this episode. Pretty good turnout
1:48:17
and pretty good attendance. Day after Christmas. I didn't know where everybody's heads
1:48:23
would be at, especially especially with a not deflating win against the Chargers,
1:48:28
but one that uh I could see kind of being in a little bit mad
1:48:31
for a lot of people. And then you go into the holiday weekends,
1:48:33
so I didn't know what the turnout would look like tonight, but it's pleasantly
1:48:36
surprised. So thank you folks for tuning in. Everybody who rode with me
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So whether it's an awesome time or a not so great time, I
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1:50:42
I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for the
1:50:45
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1:50:51
So thank you very much for that. I hope you and your family and
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one another, take care one another. Oh that's awesome, Carl, Thank
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you so much. Carl throwing up another super chat there saying here's another super
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chat just to wish you happy holidays and a happy new year. Aunt.
1:51:08
Thanks for all that you do for us. Your content is always great.
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That's that's super awesome. I that's super great. I sincerely appreciate that you
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kind of got a little bit of lost for words there, so I appreciate
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the hellure for that. Thank you very much, Carl one just for being
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here pretty much every single week. Also tune into the film room as well,
1:51:25
like I'm pretty sure like it. Just I appreciate your consistent you know,
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support and being here. But then the super chats as well, like
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that's that's pretty awesome. Think you so much of that. That that made
1:51:32
my night. Thank you very much, Carl. That's awesome. Hope you,
1:51:36
Carl and everybody, Hope you and your family and friends and loved ones
1:51:40
are all doing well and staying safe. Be kind to one another, take
1:51:44
care of one another. If you are going to the Bills game this weekend,
1:51:47
have a good time. Tailgate hard, be loud, be rowdy,
1:51:51
make it difficult for mister Bailey's appy and the Pats offense and the Pats defense
1:51:55
to do anything. You know, do whatever you can you can try and
1:51:58
help the Bills and shout loud and do all that good stuff. Have a
1:52:00
good time tailgating. If you tailgate, if you don't, whatever, that's
1:52:03
cool too. Drive safe, travel safe, drink responsibly, have a good
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time at the game if you are going. If not, you're staying at
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home, cool enjoy the warm confines of your home. Either way, I
1:52:15
hope you and your family and friends and loved ones are all doing well and
1:52:17
staying safe. Be kind to one another, take care of one another.
1:52:21
I will see you next Tuesday for another episode of the skui's Coverage Live nine
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some structural pieces, some individual player pieces coming out of that Chargers game again
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in that Film Room episode live every well, the Film Room is live every
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of Disguised Coverage. Be well, take care of one another, godspeed,
1:53:13
and as always go Bills