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The Magic Fact-Off! #226 · The Magic Guys

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  They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 226 of The Magic Guys.
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  Hey, that was fun. I'm Josh Nolbedo and to my left we have Nick Kaye and beneath me is...
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  What's up, y'all? Doug Conn's back.
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  Right on. He's back. We're all back in the building, separate buildings,
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  but same place, same fun place.
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  And this is the podcast where we interview guests. We talk about our lives as
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  professional magicians and share shenanigans.
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  And today, in a moment, we're going to test your knowledge on magic,
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  whether things are true or if they're illusion.
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  Anyway, we have a speak pipe as well to start today off. We really appreciate
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  them coming in so constantly now.
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  And so we wanted to start off with some words from our viewers.
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  Today is our friend and fellow magician, Mark Brown.
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  I see what you're up to. I had a fun moment recently. I was performing for a
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  group and there's this one lady who was just not being impressed by anything.
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  So I said, all right, I'll do one more thing and then I'll leave this group.
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  And so since she wasn't impressed, I wanted to do something where it looked
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  like I got it wrong and then switch for the right card. And so she picks the
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  card, I lose it, I find the wrong card. I say, what was your card?
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  Well, she tried to mess me up and lie to me, but she lied with the card in my hand.
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  And so I turned around the card and everyone kind of clapped a little,
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  but she looks very confused. And I waited for her to start talking as soon as she did.
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  I did the switch. She said, that wasn't even my card.
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  I said, what was your card? And she said, it was actually the two of hearts.
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  I blew on the card and turned it around and her brain just melted.
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  She said some nice things. And afterwards, her friend came up to me and said,
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  I've known her for 18 years and you're the first human I've heard her compliment.
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  So that was a fun moment where all the stars were aligned.
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  Yeah, thank you, Mark. Got him.
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  Fun haters, gotta love them. Yeah. They're the best moments when you use the
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  heckler's heckleness against them.
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  And it just makes a beautiful moment of magic.
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  That's where the miracles happen. So it's good foresight that he did that and
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  then changed it back to the original one so they could double heckle and then worked against them.
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  Beautiful. Beautiful.
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  Well, I mean, we must have, if we really thought about it, there must be countless
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  stories of moments like that, right? But.
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  Well, getting the card right is a pretty good hit. You know,
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  when she miscalls the card and it happens to be the one you're holding,
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  that's a pretty good win.
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  You know what spins me out is when you meet people when they,
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  like, say you're using a force to do a revelation, right? And the card's like the Ace of Spades.
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  And then you grab a card and they go like, is that your card?
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  Like, you know, find the Ace of Spades, grab the card. He goes,
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  is that the ace of spades? I go, no, it's the king of spades.
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  I go, cool, show everyone.
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  And like, why would you hold a smoking gun? Like, you're such a Muppet.
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  Like, you're such a Muppet. Everyone looks at that and be like,
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  like, I don't understand what they think the outcome's going to be.
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  Like, oh, that's really funny. He miscalled the card. It's like,
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  oh, what a dickhead. He can't recognize a card. Like, I don't know.
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  There's, yeah. I mean, people will sometimes honestly forget or say the wrong one.
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  No, no, no, no. let me be very clear
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  okay like they have one objection find the
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  ace of spades they grab any card they want they
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  take the card they look at the card they know it's
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  the card and they say something else and then you go we'll show everyone it's
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  like why would you say that if you're holding a smoking gun it's just so dumb
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  so dumb yeah i mean you're right it it literally happened at the theater of
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  magic with with uh sean mergaard i posted the clip about it like last week,
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  and he's doing really great technical serious
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  magic pretty much and the guy and so a card appears between the two jokers and
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  he's like and what was your card and the guy says a card that's wrong and he's
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  like oh right okay well i'm sorry i have to go manual and look through in the
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  deck and then halfway through the guy's like well maybe i lied and he's like what,
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  Oh, what was your card?
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  And then, cause what he'd done is miss shown a different card between the jokers
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  so that it could change into his card, but he named a different card.
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  So now the audience thinks, oh, right. He's really messed it up.
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  And the heckler also thinks he's messed him up proper.
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  Admits it because it's just carried on now he's like
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  oh no it's actually the you know nine of hearts and then
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  sean reveals oh let's continue and
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  then shows it's now turned into what seems like a changed new
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  card it's great yeah what what i've what i've been doing
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  just in reference to this is that like like when i do my cut
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  in the box effect what i do is i break up the revelation in three
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  parts i find this is a weird thing but
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  if i find it i like if i just sort of look under the box go oh
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  was your card the four hearts no well what was it uh
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  that's something you can get from people of this
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  elk this let's call it dickhead realm what i do now is i go was your card a
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  four so that's something they don't because they're only telling a half truth
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  i find that i don't get the pushback anymore and so what i say is i go was your
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  card a four yes was it a heart Yes. Was it the four of hearts?
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  Yes. Are you going to clap? Oh, and then everyone claps.
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  So I just find, because if they're going to be a dickhead, they can only be
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  a dickhead for a small portion of the revelation.
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  Because if you say something like, is it a four? And they go, maybe.
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  I go, I need an answer on that, man. Like you can push back on that.
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  And I go, you know, because you can ask the group at that point.
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  I go, you don't remember? Guys, was it a four? Say yes.
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  Was it a heart? So you can kind of defer. So if you have like one revelation, it's like shoot or kill.
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  But when you build up the revelation, I just find they don't push back as much.
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  Take that idea and play with it. See if it works for your friends.
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  Money in the bank, buddy. What a great tip.
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  Yeah. We're all growing today thanks to Nick K. Yeah.
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  Doug, what's happening in your world? We accidentally asked you right at the
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  end of an episode last time with trick supply and the move and what's happening
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  in Vegas. You should ask me that question again next week, because what's happening
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  in my world has been chaos.
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  You know, my wife's been ill. We had a week in the hospital with some pretty bad crap.
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  And yeah, she has diverticulitis. So she had a flare-up. It affected her kidneys.
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  And they were scared for her, so they kept her there for a few days.
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  And yeah, so business has not been business as usual.
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  And I would be lying if I told you all the things I know about our new business.
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  It's a public location. So we have trick supply. It's staying the same.
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  Everything you know, if you know about Trick Supply, that's business as usual.
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  But if you come to Las Vegas Premium Outlet Malls,
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  you might see our kiosk in the mall. So let's talk more about that next week,
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  huh? Sorry to have a short answer to that question.
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  No, that's great. You know what? I love that because you heard it here,
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  folks. Doug will be here next week. Let's go.
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  All right, sick. I'm game to get into this trivia.
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  I purposely didn't look over the list, so I don't actually know the answers.
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  But Nick, what's it called when you're controlling the game?
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  By game master yes game master sweet
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  nick is our game master today
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  that's right friends so what i've
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  done is i've compiled nearly 50 true
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  or false questions and i always enjoy when
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  we're talking on the show and we're fooling around and we're
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  discussing things of knowledge and i think the learning things in
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  magic is kind of exciting and i thought what's a fun way to learn let's play
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  a game of true or false in which i will be
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  giving you facts and you guys in the comments
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  and playing at home or driving to work listening to
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  the podcast can play along and you can say whether you think these are true
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  or false friends are we ready to begin all right because we have heaps of these
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  so let's start with the first one houdini well here we go true or false houdini
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  once worked as a spy for the U.S. government.
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  That's deep. That's really niche in particular. I've never heard that in any
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  history I've been reading, so I feel like it might be false. Doug, what do you think?
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  I feel like that's speculative.
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  It's maybe true.
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  And I'm going to say false. I'm going to say it's Hollywooded that that's what
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  he did due to the Adrian Brody biography.
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  Adrian Brody played Houdini and they made
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  it seem like he was deeply involved with all of
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  it but I think that's all Hollywood BS false the audience is about 80% on true
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  and 20% false well audience on the box Adonis you guys correct that is true
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  there was evidence he provided intelligence while touring Europe well done.
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  What evidence I want to see the evidence Where's the smoking gun?
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  Well, stay tuned for episode 227. I'll ask Trump when I come to visit.
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  Question number two. Here we go. That's a good move.
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  True or false. Di Vernon was known as the man who fooled Houdini. It's an easy one.
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  I think that's true. Is that true? Were they different timelines?
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  Yeah, self-proclaimed. Let
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  me do some burn and hating while I'm answering this question. It's true.
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  Everyone's saying, oh, it's half-half right now. Oh, no, mostly are saying true.
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  It is 100% true. It is something that he proclaimed to the day he was laid to
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  rest, like that he never let anyone forget it.
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  Here's a question. do you know what trick he proclaimed to fool him with?
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  Ooh. Question. I believe it was something as simple as like an ambitious card.
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  That's correct. Yes. Yeah, he used a double backer, which at the time were rare,
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  and he would do a second from the top and then do a double and deal a top cleanly.
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  So because the double backer was not prevalent in the day.
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  Imagine he smoked the kgb expert spy
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  cia guy himself yeah what
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  it what a time to be alive where the double backer
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  is like the cutting edge technology and
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  card magic staggering oh my god what
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  yeah assuming vernon was not lying
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  damn well i don't know vernon's still
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  a hero i literally have him on my wall here and not in that kind of
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  like funny gimmicked card coming out of the pocket way like he's
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  just up there as one of my heroes so yeah next question
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  which is all which is also where nick's bed is as well that's
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  true right above his bed yeah he literally and a
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  funny thing is like he looks down in my bedroom and he's and it's it's that
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  famous photograph where he's holding the cigarette and he's looking like this
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  like side eye so he's kind of just peeking around the corner watching me slay
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  on the mattress it's pretty funny yeah okay so he's seen my ass so many times.
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  He's like, you're fast. Love magic, guys.
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  Okay, next question. David Copperfield legally changed his name to Copperfield
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  after the Dickens novel, True or False?
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  I have to go to Doug for that one. I don't know. I'm hesitant to speak quickly.
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  I want the chat to have words on the subject. Okay.
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  I'm wondering if that, I mean, that had to be his inspiration,
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  obviously, the book. Did he legally change his name? Probably.
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  Here's a fun side story. We had a Tarbell 7 that he autographed David Kotkin,
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  which is where he published his first trick.
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  Tarbell 7, it's a trick with a pen and a prediction. David Kotkin,
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  Volume 7. He's in there. That's his real name.
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  Friends, the chat is a little divided, but the answer is true.
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  His real name is David Seth Kotkin.
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  But he did legally change it to Copperfield. Do you think he has his own private Facebook?
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  And is it like David Kotkin? Or is it like a random name?
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  Or does he not have one? I don't imagine he concerns himself with such matters. I mean, yeah.
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  You don't reckon he's on any socials? Like even to, you know, chat to Kenner?
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  It would be mediated. there's probably there's probably
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  some secret rich guy chat app you know
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  like rich book or something and
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  it's only just it's like it's like like this
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  heavily encrypted type thing where you can send nudes and no one's ever going
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  to see them yeah that he's one degree of separation from me the boss wolfgang
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  the proprietor at trick supply is like yeah david called me yesterday at 11
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  30 i had to answer the phone he's asking to get this new trick he's such a nerd wow.
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  That's cool yeah it is cool and I'm like you know if you ever need me to drive
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  some stuff to David's just say the word I'll be happy to make that delivery
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  or if you need any run throughs of how the effect works you know yeah he's looking
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  for that new portal with the jumbo card it's called vacuum or something like that yeah vacuum yeah,
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  where does he live in Vegas is it doesn't he live like on two floors of a building
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  somewhere like is he in the MGM M.
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  Because I remember some years ago that he he's got his own private swing pool
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  on this particular building and the swing pool leaked and gallons and thousands
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  of gallons of water actually leaked and went through the floor and the floors
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  below and everything like it was nuts.
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  So the insurance bill was insane, but I digress. Let's move on to some more
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  questions. We've got a ton to get through. So true or false.
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  There is a magic trick so dangerous it is banned in 37 countries. True or false.
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  Let's go chat what do we got i mean
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  we know the bullet catch is banned in australia because we
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  can't fire weapons what other
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  what other like banned effects do we know of that might
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  actually be the thing that makes this true i can't imagine
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  magic tricks are banned at all i was going to say false but now that you say
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  that i would imagine most realistic countries don't allow their public to wield
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  fire art all right so josh josh is going with true doug is going with false
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  and the audience is pretty 50-50 saying that it's the bullet catch,
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  and the truth is, it is false.
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  Although some tricks, like the bullet catch, are heavily discouraged.
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  Not banned, but discouraged. And that makes a lot of sense.
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  Indeed. I feel like the real Russian roulette should be banned, like a real spike.
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  It just, every great I've watched has
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  impaled their hand at some point absolutely yeah
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  why do we know true or false the cups
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  and balls is over 2 000 years old this is an easy one yeah that's true let's
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  let's keep going i don't believe that's actually true well it's true because
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  its depictions date back to ancient egypt and rome.
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  Or that's pictures of people eating soup that magicians would like to think it's a magic trick.
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  I'm playing devil's advocate here. I just don't think Cups and Balls was refined
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  entertainment 2,000 years ago.
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  I'm not a historian. I'm just, I'm guessing.
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  I'm going to go with Adonis on this one and say that it's true-ish.
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  It also would be risky to do any magic back then, right?
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  2,000 years ago, you're doing magic. you better be like careful
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  or you'll be executed or which a religion
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  will see some better documentation maybe
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  maybe i need to like do some more diligence but i'm
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  wondering why would a magician do that 2 000 years ago what
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  train of thought would lead someone to think that having a bunch of objects
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  would make a good magic trick it'd be more likely they would make they would
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  make food appear or you know something you know supernatural as opposed to manipulating
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  It's like juggling, I guess. Maybe.
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  Possibly. All right. Next question. True or false, Penn and Teller have been
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  performing together since they were 10 years old. I think that's false.
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  Correct. That is false. They met as adults through a mutual friend who thought
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  they'd hate each other. Sounds about right.
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  Okay. Number seven. In Japan, there is a magician who performs only for monkeys. True or false?
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  What? In a modern age, that could be true. Like, but probably not.
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  That sounds made up. Nibido?
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  To do with monkeys, I'm going to say that's got to be, I think that's false.
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  Ronnie said it best, we're all monkeys. That's true. That's true.
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  The answer is false. As far as we know, there is no one out there performing
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  in this very niche market just for monkeys. Let's go. No.
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  Can I also, I just quickly asked our new leader of the world,
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  ChatGBT, about the origins of cups and balls.
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  So what it is saying is that one of the earliest ancient things of it is like 2500 BCE in Egypt.
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  And they're saying that there's a wall painting found in the tomb of Didi,
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  one of the first magicians recorded.
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  I think we did an episode on that, right? We did a history lesson on Didi, yes.
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  Depicts a version of cups and balls that scholars
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  debate whether it was actually the trick we know today but
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  it strongly resembles it which is what doug's saying
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  and then they're also saying in india and china there are versions of the trick
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  that also existed in ancient india and china where magicians used bowls and
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  then seeds or stones in their street performances yeah that makes sense but
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  what is ancient china though is it you know.
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  500 AD? Or is it before that?
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  Well, just to circle back to the question, the question was,
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  is that, is it over 2000 years old? That's my point.
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  Is ancient China 1000 AD? Or is ancient China 100 AD? Or is it earlier than that?
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  Yeah, true. I mean, what I can tell you is that, you know, a retention vanish
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  of a seed must have been fire back in the day.
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  Like, if you can do that, that's like, you would win fism if
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  it was invented here's a curiosity is the cups and balls described
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  in the discovery of witchcraft which was penned in
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  like the 1500s and i would suggest that
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  the cups and balls is not clearly depicted in that book
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  that maybe there's not a clear path there is
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  only two tricks depicted in that book yeah and
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  i don't recall one was a trick with a
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  knife yeah and other i don't believe
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  was actually the cups and balls but but beheading
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  a beheading an object and restoring it or causing injury
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  and restoring the injury that would be a trick that they
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  would have performed in ancient times i would
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  suggest if the oldest trick in the book was around that that probably would
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  have been mentioned in that volume again i'm not an expert but i guess i'm one
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  of those scholars debating right now if i get my hands on the book again i'll
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  let you know because i did actually physically get to play with that book when
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  i when i hung with teller at his house so.
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  Phenomenal but i got to see one at david's museum oh yeah right what a what a flex behind glass,
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  hell yeah okay next question so yeah this is gonna go i think this is timing's
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  working out really well with this so let's keep pressing on the classic trick
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  soaring a woman in half was invented by a magician named P.T. Selbit.
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  True or false? I'm just going to flex a little and say I know it's true because
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  I saw the same damn thing at David's museum.
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  That is correct. It's very true. Here is the P.T. Selbit sawing in half.
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  In fact, it premiered in 1921. So that is a very true fact. And now you'll learn something, kids.
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  Okay. That's funny. So what was his name? P.T. Selbit. S-E-L-B-I-T. Selbit.
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  Yeah he must be pissed now that so many people have been copying
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  his act i don't know man it'd be pretty cool to have a legacy imagine
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  everyone started copying having a beard and being bald we'd be
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  the most popular guys josh you and i it's great
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  when you go to david's place and he shows you that one he shows you
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  the six ripoffs right next to it and how it kind of got you know grew to what
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  it is and of course his version with the saws in there yeah that's pretty cool
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  okay next question chris angel once levitated over the Grand Canyon, true or false?
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  I mean, he actually did it, or there was a video of him doing it.
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  He actually did it. Well, it would have been in a Mind Freak special if he was doing it.
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  I feel like that is the kind of thing Chris Angel would do.
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  The chat is saying true so far. Everyone's saying true.
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  David Copperfield levitated over the Grand Canyon. The best Chris Angel ever
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  did was over the Luxor, which was pretty cool. David Copperfield did the worst
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  levitation ever when he pretended that was a thing. Yeah, well. It was a disaster.
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  Friends, Doug, you are correct. Chris Angel did not.
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  He actually levitated between two buildings in Las Vegas, one being over the
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  Luxor, correct? So, yes.
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  Yeah. You want a bad time? Go look up floating over the Grand Canyon.
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  I was going to stay at the Lux, because I'm going up early to Magic Live to
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  sort of have a bit of a reset before the convention begins.
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  But i'm actually going to state the excelsior because i think it's a bit more
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  ridiculous and i think it'll be more fun so that's for excalibur is what i meant
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  to say yeah but it's right next,
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  exactly yeah yeah so this is an interesting one i found this question and here
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  it is true or false there is a magic convention called abra corn dabra held in iowa true or false,
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  Josh, where's the Jeopardy thing? Do you have that on the soundboard?
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  Is that a thing in Australia?
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  Yeah.
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  That's true. They do it every year. Abacorn Dabra. It's a thing.
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  Well, Mox is true. Dennis is true.
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  Dragoteer says this is false on the box.
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  Nick, Dragoteer should know better.
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  Yeah, the answer is true. It is a real thing.
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  Magicians are that corny what and why is
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  it called corn dabra well i guess iowa is known
• 23:35
  for growing corn and maize i believe like
• 23:38
  it's yeah is is that where
• 23:40
  i think the williamson lives out there in iowa doesn't he
• 23:43
  david's from uh ohio ohio
• 23:47
  about the same but not really close gotcha gotcha
• 23:50
  true or false friends the guinness
• 23:54
  book of world records for the most tricks performed underwater
• 23:57
  there is a guinness world record for most
• 24:00
  magic tricks performed underwater is that true or false i hope this is true
• 24:07
  i've not personally been made aware of it but if there and if there isn't i
• 24:12
  think someone should attack that it's what a cool video that would be i just
• 24:17
  instantly think of content I'm like,
• 24:18
  that's a great content to do magic tricks underwater, but that's a challenge.
• 24:25
  I'm curious, like, would you do it underwater as in like, you just put your
• 24:28
  hands in a fish tank and just do like matrix a whole bunch?
• 24:31
  That's not as cool. Or do you actually like fully submerge, like full aqua dump style?
• 24:37
  I think so. I think you've got to be right. I mean, to be honest,
• 24:41
  people won't know that any of us three are actually underwater.
• 24:44
  Because normally what gives you away is that your hair is waving around like
• 24:48
  this. That's true. When you're underwater.
• 24:51
  So, I would say false.
• 24:54
  Too niche-y, not enough really tricks to break a record. If it is a record,
• 24:59
  it's probably like eight tricks. What are you going to do underwater?
• 25:03
  The answer is true. And it was set by Martin Rees in 2021.
• 25:10
  What? Correct.
• 25:13
  Damn. we gotta we gotta find that video
• 25:16
  yeah now we'll get this is a quick quick fire
• 25:19
  now here we go true or false all magic how
• 25:22
  many tricks was it do you have that number didn't say didn't say no it was probably
• 25:27
  eight eight eight or nine i'm done i ended this record and i crushed it all
• 25:32
  in the same day nine tricks it was actually like four tricks but there was a
• 25:37
  lot of patter beat it if you can, Magi.
• 25:40
  I'll see you in Abra Corn Dabra.
• 25:42
  Imagine the pattern of just like blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub.
• 25:48
  And it's like, was your car the blah, blah, blah, blah? I'm like, yes.
• 25:54
  Did you say it was Martin Reese? Is that the guy you talked about?
• 25:57
  Correct. So he did, in under three minutes, he did 20 tricks in the UK on 18th of November.
• 26:04
  Someone can beat that for sure. Yeah.
• 26:07
  That sounds easily beatable. An oxygen tank has. Oh, and then,
• 26:11
  sorry, my mistake. And then there was an updated record.
• 26:15
  Someone beat it. A 13-year-old. Oh, come on.
• 26:19
  Avery Emerson Fisher in under three minutes did, in 2023, did 38 tricks.
• 26:26
  That's what I'm talking about. Damn, let's go.
• 26:30
  Holy crap. Why is that not a viral video around the world?
• 26:35
  That's crazy. That should be a fism category now. It's established.
• 26:39
  It will be. With all the new characters. By the way, that's happening right
• 26:43
  now. So, fingers crossed. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 26:47
  All right. Sorry, rapid fire time. That's right. Okay. So true or false,
• 26:52
  all magicians are legally required to join a magic society.
• 26:57
  Well, if I was a part of one, I believe that it's going to be false.
• 27:01
  If that's true, I'm in trouble. I've been a rebel my whole life.
• 27:05
  Well, friend. Never had a card. Not once.
• 27:08
  You are not breaking the lore because it is false. So that's fine.
• 27:13
  Give America a few months. Maybe Trump will make it a requirement if we all have to join the IBM.
• 27:18
  Oh, man. Okay. True or false, there is a type of magic performed entirely with shadows.
• 27:26
  A type of magic there is a type of
• 27:29
  magic performed entirely with shadows is
• 27:33
  it called boring no i'm kidding i don't know no i don't i obviously there's
• 27:40
  a wrap this i'm gonna say it's false because i've never heard of like that genre
• 27:44
  specifically what about tobias darstall and thank you well i know there's shadow
• 27:49
  magic and it's beautiful but i've never heard of it like Like a particular,
• 27:52
  like if I go to Penguin Magic, there's not a name of a type of column.
• 27:56
  If you go to Magic Ink, you could buy How to Do Shadography.
• 28:02
  And you know what? With that knowledge, Doug, you are correct.
• 28:08
  Shadography or shadow plays, it's called. It's silhouettes being used for magic.
• 28:14
  Silhouettes magic. Taking the finger and holding the finger and yeah. Yeah.
• 28:17
  That freaked me out, by the way. And people, the video I put up recently,
• 28:21
  you saw that one, right, Nick?
• 28:22
  Yeah, you bet. Like 50 million views or something.
• 28:25
  And the guy can hold on to the guy's shadow as he lets go. And his shadow stays
• 28:31
  there until he lets go. And then the guy's hand.
• 28:33
  And I've seen that guy do that clip, that effect in a few places.
• 28:36
  Some people say it's edited, but still like we know of methods,
• 28:41
  really convoluted methods that could make it happen.
• 28:43
  So it's still insane. So I hope it's true.
• 28:47
  Okay silhouette magic i stand corrected yep true or false you can't join the
• 28:55
  magic circle unless another magician sponsors you true or false,
• 29:02
  This is in the UK that we're talking about? Magic circles in many places.
• 29:06
  Oh. Oh. We have a magic circle here too.
• 29:09
  Yeah, right. Mm-hmm. All I know about the UK is that you have to audition into a performance.
• 29:16
  So maybe that's true. You would think it's actually more than one.
• 29:20
  I think you might need two or even three magicians, if I remember correctly.
• 29:25
  So I say true. You need to have that sponsor. The answer is true.
• 29:32
  Yep. So you have to have a sponsor and then you have to pass an audition or exam.
• 29:38
  Oddly enough, that is an anal exam. It's renal. So that's how they do it at the Magic Circle.
• 29:43
  Although, hang on, we got Yev in the chat, who was our guest last week,
• 29:48
  and he's calling false and he is a member, I believe.
• 29:52
  So maybe he had special privileges
• 29:56
  getting through and that's tainted your
• 29:59
  experience yeah i mean
• 30:02
  like it was so damn good they're like no we don't need any recommendations
• 30:05
  we subscribe to your patreon already and come
• 30:08
  on through well most things of this nature do need a second
• 30:11
  so because that's some that's like an accountability buddy when you
• 30:14
  got someone vouching for you you know and that's i don't
• 30:17
  know i'm not gonna say gangster but it is just like the the way that
• 30:20
  things work in these club mentalities so yeah keep that.
• 30:23
  In mind by the way quick side quest here doug
• 30:26
  maybe you haven't had the pleasure of interacting with yev
• 30:29
  yet but he have you seen some of
• 30:31
  the knuckle busting flourishes of his on
• 30:34
  the internet he taught some he taught
• 30:38
  some to us on the pod so you
• 30:41
  can jump straight to that chapter but bro like
• 30:44
  he can he can fan a deck of cards a card
• 30:47
  shoots out you catch it it's insane look i've
• 30:51
  been i've been self-absorbed the last week with stupid things
• 30:54
  no no understandably but it's yeah
• 30:57
  it's worth checking out and he's he's jumped back in the chat saying
• 31:00
  josh is right yeah so they must have just especially let
• 31:04
  him through but you still regular muggles
• 31:07
  wanting to be magicians i think need to be unless you do fancy card flourishes
• 31:12
  like yeah what's up yeah i'm sorry i missed you but i'll check out your episode
• 31:15
  soon yeah okay let's let's circle back to this is an easy one if you're a fan
• 31:21
  true or false david blaine once held his breath for over no.
• 31:30
  David blaine once held his breath for over 17 minutes true or false,
• 31:36
  That's just wild. I'm pretty sure that's the number that he went for the time he did it.
• 31:42
  But that's just crazy. Isn't that crazy?
• 31:46
  Depends if it's true or not. Yeah. I think he accomplished this with oxygen assistance.
• 31:53
  I think he eventually did do it, but maybe not au naturel.
• 31:57
  I remember watching because he gave a talk on it, on his progress,
• 32:01
  and he tried to cheat it, tried to do it with extra oxygenated water,
• 32:05
  but it was like too impossible to actually inhale and
• 32:09
  then he was like damn it i i may as well just try and do it for real
• 32:12
  and if if i don't know if anyone here
• 32:15
  has bought david blaine's masterclass like
• 32:18
  his magic masterclass but within that
• 32:20
  he actually goes through his teaching of holding your breath and he and he does
• 32:26
  it with i think he does it with ozzy wind maybe doug mckenty's in there and
• 32:30
  another guy and you actually see them be able to hold their breath for five
• 32:35
  minutes And they've never done it before through his breathing techniques and repetition.
• 32:40
  And so the guy's right into it. I'm going to say it's true, but we won't know
• 32:45
  the truth until... I think 12 minutes is the limit, I think.
• 32:48
  Well, Ronnie actually nailed it in the chat. And the answer is true.
• 32:53
  He held his breath for a total of 17 minutes and four seconds. What do you do?
• 33:00
  And he did a, I believe it was a TED talk that he actually spoke about it on,
• 33:05
  which was phenomenal the whole experience and
• 33:08
  he had a couple of attempts with it because they originally they wanted to make
• 33:11
  it like a spectacular where you know like when you're holding your breath you
• 33:14
  want to hold your body in a certain position they wanted him to be kind of like
• 33:16
  in a star thing where his arms were stretched out and that puts more strain
• 33:20
  on the body like it was kind of a very unfair thing so the fact that he was
• 33:23
  able to do it was insane so on to the next one Now,
• 33:28
  true or false, the term sleight of hand comes from a Scandinavian phrase,
• 33:39
  which means hand deception.
• 33:42
  So, Scandinavia is claiming the term sleight of hand? Correct.
• 33:48
  And the term means hand deception.
• 33:53
  Bum, bum, bum. I have an answer. Go ahead.
• 33:57
  I would attribute the term from the French word leisure domain,
• 34:02
  which means quickness of hand.
• 34:05
  Good theory. Good theory. Anyone else?
• 34:09
  The chat is coming in with false. Okay. This is going to blow your mind. The answer is true.
• 34:18
  It derived from an old Norse word, meaning sly or clever.
• 34:23
  What the? We've got to do some research on that. That's crazy.
• 34:28
  I've done my diligence, bud. I heard it was Didi in the Egyptian tombs,
• 34:33
  calling it leisure de seas.
• 34:37
  Ooh, fancy. That's my theory. I'm making
• 34:40
  up theories to go with the other bullshit they made up for the egyptians okay
• 34:46
  true or false a magician once performed
• 34:49
  a trick that involved escaping from a giant microwave how
• 34:54
  long could a person survive in a microwave like real
• 34:57
  talk like if you had a life-size one look how
• 35:00
  many people go out through deceptive stairs before
• 35:03
  the trick even happens does nathan burton do
• 35:06
  that in his comedy magic show mm-hmm it's
• 35:10
  my final true Nathan Burton okay Josh I got no idea I'm saying what Doug's saying
• 35:17
  he's saying true and I'm guessing I'm to guess sounds true says Adonis and the
• 35:24
  answer is false although it's probably a pretty great idea.
• 35:33
  Not a real Michael A probably not here's an interesting one true or false magic
• 35:41
  is banned in Saudi Arabia true or false,
• 35:47
  I think that's false I think
• 35:51
  DMC has like a regular parlor show in
• 35:54
  Saudi Arabia yeah false why would
• 35:56
  you ban magic that's stupid well in some
• 36:00
  religions it is considered witchcraft and
• 36:04
  can lead to harsh penalties which is why the answer is true no real what yeah
• 36:13
  no it's banned and from someone who actually toured and went to qatar.
• 36:23
  Like it was very interesting to see how they received it.
• 36:27
  And all of the press conferences we did leading into it were saying, this is not witchcraft.
• 36:31
  This is just ingenuity. We want to share with you guys.
• 36:35
  And the first people to ever go there and perform magic were actually Adam and
• 36:40
  Selena Murby from Perth, Australia.
• 36:43
  They were the first people to ever perform magic in that country. Wow.
• 36:47
  And I was on that tour. So now it's not banned or that was an exception?
• 36:52
  That was qatar so i
• 36:56
  love how they just leave out dd from the whole freaking
• 37:00
  like there was no performance of magic there then
• 37:03
  is savi arabia near egypt and
• 37:06
  the pyramids is that near on my geography i
• 37:08
  don't know enough stuff but yeah it's
• 37:12
  fascinating nonetheless so next one
• 37:15
  here we go friends true or false the magic castle in hollywood is haunted by
• 37:22
  the ghost of a failed card magician fuck that's dark man why so specific yeah a failed card magician.
• 37:35
  Well this one's kind of hard no well i'll show you is this invisible oma she's
• 37:41
  just pissed so She plays piano every night.
• 37:43
  Well, this is the thing. There's a half truth there. And this is why I need
• 37:48
  a final answer. So is it true or false?
• 37:51
  False. I say false. False, Doug. Nibito.
• 37:55
  I don't see why the Magic Castle would allow a failed card magician ghost to stay in the castle.
• 38:00
  They would never have been approved. So I'm going to say false.
• 38:05
  Okay, look. Well, the castle is allegedly haunted.
• 38:10
  That is true.
• 38:12
  But is it haunted by magician who failed in card magic? The answer is false.
• 38:17
  It is not a magician, but it is haunted by a pianist.
• 38:21
  If you ever go to the castle, you will see the ghost play any song.
• 38:24
  You can go up to it and say, I want you to play Anarchy Burger by the Vandals.
• 38:28
  And it will. It's fantastic.
• 38:30
  So keep that in mind. It's really special.
• 38:33
  Next question. True or false, there is a magic trick that uses a trained goldfish.
• 38:40
  No but you have to teach and perform it within 8 seconds no don't don't change
• 38:47
  it don't change the spec it's not what I've made no no it is there is a magic
• 38:51
  trick that uses a train goldfish true or false of course.
• 38:56
  I'm going to go with false. That seems, it's probably true. I don't know.
• 38:59
  Maybe something to do with the light. You train them to follow the, I'll go true.
• 39:03
  We'll split it up here. All right. The chat's a little divided on this one as
• 39:06
  well, but the answer is true.
• 39:09
  It is true. In fact, animals have been used for many a tricks,
• 39:13
  not including goldfish, mice, rabbits, birds, and even a scorpion.
• 39:20
  And what's the, did it give you any knowledge on what this goldfish effect is?
• 39:24
  It is tricky, but it has been done.
• 39:26
  Oh come on you can't leave us hanging in like that yes okay bonus rounds let's
• 39:32
  keep going harry blackstone senior once used live elephants in his stage show true or false,
• 39:40
  i would say he did that i think it's true true says doug nabito sorry i was
• 39:45
  kind of looking trying to look
• 39:46
  up this goldfish yeah not looking up harry blackstone information at all.
• 39:54
  No i didn't hear the question i'm sorry because
• 39:57
  i was trying to look at the last senior harry blackstone senior
• 40:00
  once used live elephants in his stage show
• 40:03
  true or false i'll go true i mean it sounds pretty
• 40:06
  epic for that true from false from doug true i
• 40:10
  say true i'll both say true the answer is false
• 40:14
  he did use livestock such as doug uh
• 40:17
  doves and and rabbits but never elephants that was
• 40:20
  more a houdini and barnum wheelhouse so
• 40:23
  that's the answer to that one so next one mark man can you imagine having an
• 40:28
  elephant in your repertoire oh my man imagine feeding it like the cost involved
• 40:34
  to feed it alone would be insane clean up the cleanup alone i mean josh shovels
• 40:40
  like horse poop all the time imagine something that is.
• 40:45
  I've shoveled many a horse poop Even for a pony They just poop so much I've
• 40:50
  got a quick update on the goldfish If you guys want to hear it,
• 40:53
  Go on. Goldfish. So goldfish can be trained despite the myth,
• 40:59
  like I said, that they have a three-second memory.
• 41:01
  They can actually have excellent long-term memory and can learn complex behaviors
• 41:06
  such as swimming through hoops, pushing a ball into a goal, recognizing shapes or colors,
• 41:14
  swimming to a target on command, follow a pointer or finger.
• 41:19
  They can fetch floating objects. they can ring a bell to receive food and they
• 41:26
  can also listen to the magic guys podcast let's go.
• 41:31
  I mean that's not really a skill that's just you know you put the the speaker
• 41:35
  up to their tank but that's pretty cool i mean you know they recognize when
• 41:39
  they see floating food okay it's time to eat so i guess if you put the time
• 41:43
  in you could train one for your magic effect just pretty dope okay Next one.
• 41:50
  True or false, Darren Brown once correctly predicted the results of the National Lottery on live TV.
• 41:59
  Oh, yes, that's right. I remember there was a lot of controversy about the idea of this happening.
• 42:06
  And it was like, he had a cool idea of how he wanted to end it.
• 42:11
  But he had to change the ending I think because they would be too upset if he
• 42:17
  could prove that he could actually do it.
• 42:20
  Alex Lamb says true. Rusty says true. Ronnie says Darren Brown has done everything.
• 42:26
  Doug, what's your answer? I say true. Yeah, I think it's true.
• 42:31
  The answer is true. In 2009, he predicted the UK lottery numbers though the
• 42:38
  method is still debated and possibly but possibly involved some video trickery.
• 42:45
  Doug, do you remember the controversy on it?
• 42:50
  I remember Darren Brown talked about it somewhere, and he wanted to do an ending
• 42:55
  where he showed how they rigged the lottery or something, but they wouldn't
• 42:59
  allow that, so they had to change the ending to being like,
• 43:02
  oh, when a mass of people make the decision, it's normally true,
• 43:06
  and they had to change it to be more like that.
• 43:09
  News to me, I don't remember that at all. Well, maybe I'll do a little history
• 43:15
  lesson at some point, but let's go into the next one.
• 43:17
  This one is kind of a tricky one. So here we go. True or false,
• 43:20
  the famous bullet catch has killed at least 15 magicians.
• 43:27
  True or false?
• 43:29
  It might be true. It's definitely a problem.
• 43:34
  It's a problem with smoking. Definitely a problem.
• 43:37
  See the thing is anything that can go wrong in
• 43:40
  your show you do enough shows and everything will go wrong at some point and
• 43:44
  if it's something dangerous well there is a book on this there's a book i believe
• 43:48
  it was the book yes the book it's 13 have died so that was about 50 years ago
• 43:55
  and i would imagine two have died since because magicians are idiots i'm going to say true.
• 44:00
  Well which by the way it was a pleasure seeing the
• 44:03
  gun that killed chun wing su and david copperfields museum
• 44:06
  wow it's in there what well
• 44:10
  adonis allegedly gutbuster mike
• 44:13
  false alex false seth false the answer
• 44:17
  is true and it is literally one of the most
• 44:20
  dangerous tricks in history with multiple recorded deaths
• 44:23
  so over 15 yeah because
• 44:26
  the problem was back in the day they might sneak
• 44:29
  out the bullet but some idiot could chuck in a
• 44:32
  button or some other small projectile yep that's
• 44:36
  still going to fire out with all the gunpowder and stuff that they've loaded
• 44:39
  up in their old old school guns yeah i
• 44:42
  we we can't even do it here not even with a
• 44:45
  paintball gun here in in in oz and so i'm trying to do it with a with a golf
• 44:49
  ball which tobias has agreed to help me with now so you're probably going to
• 44:53
  see it in the next year or so so we'll see how that goes next doug Henning ran
• 45:01
  for political office in Canada, true or false?
• 45:05
  I don't know that knowledge. Although he's a pretty whimsical guy.
• 45:09
  Mm-hmm. I could see him running Canada.
• 45:13
  I know that knowledge, and if I'm not mistaken, he ran for one of the highest offices in the land.
• 45:18
  He was like going for leader of parliament. Yeah.
• 45:22
  When the hell do you know that, Doug? I know, right? Doug's like an encyclopedia. God damn.
• 45:27
  Doug, the answer is that's correct. True. He ran for Parliament under the National Law Party. Wow.
• 45:35
  The Doug Chondropedia. Yeah. But that's also my era, you know?
• 45:41
  Like, you guys probably know more shit from this era than I do because,
• 45:44
  you know. Maybe. Maybe. I'm not as hit, maybe.
• 45:47
  You guys say names all the time. Like, I don't know. So, you know.
• 45:50
  Can I ask Doug just quickly in the US is it like are people in public trying
• 45:55
  to hide who they like if they like the president or not because I've heard stories
• 46:00
  of people like having to hide,
• 46:03
  shut the fuck up no we're not doing that we're not doing that shut the fuck
• 46:06
  up no shut the fuck up no no no because I'm not getting stuck at customs because
• 46:10
  of this conversation shut the fuck up we're not talking about that no we're
• 46:13
  not no no no if I go through customs and people see this fucking footage,
• 46:17
  we're not talking about we're not talking about our opinions on any kind of
• 46:22
  government thing i'm just saying the people is true.
• 46:29
  Yeah true or false that's hilarious that's hilarious
• 46:33
  okay cool i think it's safe to generally assume
• 46:36
  the worst for this country right now everyone's telling
• 46:38
  me to bring a burner phone to get through customs i'm just
• 46:42
  like i got nothing to hide you know what's interesting when i
• 46:44
  when i when i did my online the ester thing
• 46:47
  like basically like the visa thing it asks you to
• 46:51
  link it asks you to link like your social media
• 46:54
  and stuff it says optional so of course i don't
• 46:56
  but it's like asking for your social media it's
• 47:00
  like what are your parents you know you know details like
• 47:03
  it's like way more in depth than the last time
• 47:06
  i had to it's like it's getting crazy it's
• 47:11
  already crazy just don't but next question yeah yeah all right keep going good
• 47:16
  stuff okay let me get back to that fucking thing here we go usa is number one
• 47:23
  okay yes okay the invisible deck the invisible deck was created by di vernon true or false,
• 47:32
  look at doug already trying to not have a stroke here and you say that he knows
• 47:36
  it's not true he knows exactly who created it.
• 47:40
  It's burley knoll's ultra mental deck di vernon altered
• 47:43
  it to be the brainwave deck later in his life but ultra
• 47:46
  mental burling hole that's not what that's not
• 47:49
  a knowledge i have the knowledge eddie fields and don allen popularized it as
• 47:54
  the invisible deck but it's burling holes ultra mental deck that uses their
• 47:58
  presentation it was popularized by don allen marketed by joe berg but vernon
• 48:04
  was known for the more sleight of hand classic so that is a false statement correct doug,
• 48:09
  Yeah, Vernon had Brainwave, which introduced a different colored bat to the
• 48:14
  same prediction concept.
• 48:15
  So he had some hands in the game. But if you look up Ultra Mental deck,
• 48:20
  you'll find Merling Hole, and it's very much the invisible deck. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:25
  True or false, Cardini performed a full act wearing gloves.
• 48:31
  Glove work is pretty insane for card magic because I feel like you lose touch of your feelings.
• 48:40
  But I have seen this video, so it's true.
• 48:44
  Yeah, maybe not the full act, but it is true. Yep, that is true.
• 48:48
  And he still crushed it. And it was a nice way to be able to do back palms,
• 48:51
  having white gloves with white borders on a back palm. Do you know why he did that?
• 48:55
  To my knowledge, it was because he would practice his card magic while in the
• 49:00
  trenches during the World War, and he was wearing gloves to keep his hands warm
• 49:03
  in the cold. and so he just got used to performing with gloves. Yep.
• 49:07
  Damn. I like history.
• 49:10
  True or false, there is a secret room in the Magic Castle that no magician is allowed to enter.
• 49:19
  Only one? There is a secret room. A.
• 49:24
  One. But no magician is allowed to enter that. And it's called? The good bathroom.
• 49:30
  Yeah. It's called the shower.
• 49:33
  The shower. The shower. The deodorant closet. My God.
• 49:39
  Far out. Yeah, that sounds false. I don't think, that doesn't make sense.
• 49:44
  How would you have a room at the Magic Castle? Magicians can't go in.
• 49:47
  Look, looking at the chat, Mark Brown, and on the box, it's unanimous. It is false.
• 49:53
  It is false. Like, there is nothing of that nature in there. Now, next question.
• 49:58
  True or false, there's a magic shop on every continent, including Antarctica. Hmm.
• 50:06
  Antarctica.
• 50:10
  My mentor Cellini saying there should only be four magic shops,
• 50:13
  one on each corner of the globe.
• 50:16
  It should be that way, right? Where it's not so, you know, dispensable.
• 50:21
  Yeah. I don't think there'd be one in Antarctica, but maybe I think it's false.
• 50:26
  I don't, I don't think that's true.
• 50:28
  You got countries like Saudi Arabia don't even want us there.
• 50:32
  Yep. Yep. It is unanimous. Even Rusty said that penguins can't do magic,
• 50:36
  although there is a penguin magic store, which is very funny.
• 50:38
  And the answer is false. We barely have a magic store here in Australia.
• 50:42
  There is one left in Sydney run by our good friend Clement Kwok.
• 50:46
  Shout out to Clement, man.
• 50:47
  Thanks for keeping the bricks and mortar. Now, true or false,
• 50:51
  the word abracadabra was once used as a healing charm.
• 50:57
  I'm sure someone did that.
• 51:00
  Because what does abracadabra mean? I summon? Is that what it means? I summon?
• 51:07
  Isn't it like something to do with I speak it into existence or something as
• 51:14
  I say someone knows yeah something like that there's about 10 minutes worth
• 51:18
  of questions and we have 6 minutes left in the show so I would,
• 51:22
  false I create as I speak that sounds like what I remember seeing final answer.
• 51:29
  I'm going to say someone's done that but I don't think that's how it's going
• 51:33
  come on buddy we're running out of time I'll go true The answer is true.
• 51:37
  In ancient times, people wore it as an amulet to ward off disease and misfortune. So pretty cool.
• 51:43
  There you go. Do you think it's possible for us to start our own magic word
• 51:49
  and make it into history where people just reference that as a magic word?
• 51:54
  I've been trying to coin the phrase swagic where you mix your swag with magic.
• 52:00
  Love it. yeah like because my
• 52:03
  my suits are so gaffed it's like my swagic room
• 52:06
  you want to have your swag being magic
• 52:09
  yeah it's real skibbity bro that's not neat at all that's fine magic okay a
• 52:15
  magician once vanished the statue of liberty true or false really yeah the cover
• 52:22
  filled it on tv in 1983 i I was born in 84 for reference. So here we go.
• 52:28
  I saw that special live on television. We have 10...
• 52:35
  No go ahead you saw it oh i
• 52:38
  watched a live yeah yeah just flashback to
• 52:41
  how did people talk about
• 52:44
  it back then because twitter like you know social media people couldn't
• 52:47
  just blast about it i mean what i was 10 who was i talking to my buddy jimmy
• 52:52
  on the corner i don't know what they were talking about but you know i know
• 52:55
  that this was a pretty big deal for sure it was like you know epic event and
• 53:00
  it was before he started doing dumb stuff like floating across the Grand Canyon.
• 53:07
  His reputation was still solid.
• 53:12
  Okay, we have 10 more questions to go. Let's bring her home.
• 53:15
  David floating across the Grand Canyon.
• 53:24
  Yeah, yeah. That's a funny one, I know.
• 53:28
  Yeah he just like doing the whole like like he was just being very he maintains
• 53:32
  this pose for three minutes yeah yeah i'm with you because he's so concentrated
• 53:38
  you know yeah no but everything back then was like filmed in 480p so you could
• 53:42
  just like you could have like the worst teeth in the world it wouldn't matter
• 53:45
  because you're not being seen in 4k you know what i mean,
• 53:48
  you know it's just i just see what in your imagination does the rat but he opened
• 53:53
  that with the Andre Cole levitation where you levitate forward through encircled
• 53:58
  things. And that is cool.
• 53:59
  Like, that's cool. You see him start cool and end cool, but the middle, ugh.
• 54:05
  Instead of swagic, it was tragic. Yeah. Stragic magic.
• 54:11
  Nice. Okay. Nice. I try to make the last 10 difficult ones, all right?
• 54:16
  So we'll get to the bottom 10 and we'll wrap it up, but here we go.
• 54:20
  A magician in Germany patented A method to levitate cats for stage performance, true or false?
• 54:30
  The time I say false, that's weird. No one can do that.
• 54:34
  False. Okay. It was a false. Yeah.
• 54:38
  Okay. David Blaine once tried to live inside of a snow globe for a week,
• 54:45
  but they pulled him out because he was developing fosbite.
• 54:49
  It's part of a stunt in a cold place. I'm going to say that's false because
• 54:52
  David Blaine ain't no pussy. He would have done it.
• 54:55
  I mean, he was in Times Square encased in glass for a week. Nah,
• 55:00
  but talking like it was a globe, snow globe. That sounds made up. False.
• 55:06
  And the chat says, Rusty says it rings a bell.
• 55:10
  The answer is false. He did not try to.
• 55:13
  He did get buried in ice, but he didn't do the snow globe thing.
• 55:17
  My boy Blaine ain't giving up for no frostbite. You know what I'm saying? He didn't die.
• 55:23
  But yeah, mixed. Dragoteer said, yep, he did do it in a block of ice. That is correct.
• 55:27
  But let's circle back to this one now here. there is a secret handshake there's
• 55:32
  a secret handshake required to enter the magic circle,
• 55:38
  headquarters in london true or false i think it's false handshake is a bit.
• 55:50
  We're talking about like mason type society one of the oldest communities ever in magic,
• 56:00
  i'm saying true but uh what
• 56:03
  are you trying to do nick like sway us to the right
• 56:06
  answer putting it out there well where's your unbiased game
• 56:09
  master quality here like are you sure about that and
• 56:12
  then we're gonna be like i changed my answer he's gonna be like no it was false
• 56:15
  yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna say false although there should be one a universal
• 56:19
  one for magicians but i'm gonna say it's false alex says goofy enough giving
• 56:24
  that's goofy enough to have magicians take that seriously that's true mike says
• 56:28
  that we should bring secret handshakes back and the answer to that one is,
• 56:33
  false it's false yeah you don't have to know a secret handshake okay see okay
• 56:37
  houdini once had to cancel a show because a rabbit bit his thumb during rehearsal
• 56:45
  and the injury made it so he was unable to perform true or false.
• 56:51
  Digging in the deep end for these last ones, huh? What is this?
• 56:56
  Yeah, I'm going to say false again. False. False.
• 57:00
  And the chat says nothing, but the answer is false. Correct.
• 57:08
  Okay, here we go. Pendulet.
• 57:12
  Pendulet secretly collects magic-themed Pez dispensers and actually owns several
• 57:18
  hundreds of these. True or false?
• 57:23
  I mean if magic is there that many well this person you can also have them made,
• 57:30
  nah it's got to be false i think it's
• 57:33
  true i'm going true on this one true on this one weird enough
• 57:36
  to do that it does sound something that he
• 57:39
  would be weird enough to do the answer to it is actually false
• 57:42
  but i thought that would be
• 57:45
  half sounded half true as well and i made that up so
• 57:48
  i was thinking after i said true i'm like ken doesn't like
• 57:51
  magic enough to do that my bad yeah but it's the type of thing that he would
• 57:55
  do almost as a mocking sort of notion so i kind of appreciate that he would
• 57:59
  do something like that take the piss in the true nature of pen jillette this
• 58:03
  is my dd pez exactly you know this is my telepez yeah.
• 58:12
  Okay true or false there was once a magician who used nothing but potatoes in his act,
• 58:20
  That could be true. It doesn't sound like he was very successful,
• 58:23
  but I'm going to say it could be true.
• 58:26
  Yeah, it could be. I don't think so. Going fast doesn't make any sense.
• 58:32
  My friend Prady McCullum does a really good cups and bowls.
• 58:36
  He's an Irishman and wears a kilt when he performs and he does cups and bowls
• 58:40
  and produces nine different sized potatoes in his act.
• 58:44
  It's not his entire act. So the answer is false.
• 58:49
  So hang on i think all of those have been false that you've been doing in this
• 58:52
  last 10 by the way maybe that's what i'm saying he's in the deep end right we
• 58:56
  could have ended this episode with 10 questions ago and not be running late
• 58:59
  right now i have to think about it like even mark brown says good point you
• 59:02
  could do like bill bill and potato you can do cups and potato you can do,
• 59:07
  you know so many different multiplying potatoes potatoes across potatoes across yeah potatoes,
• 59:16
  Did Taylor speak to you about his potato effect he's working on as well?
• 59:21
  Because he's working on a potato effect, literally, for his show.
• 59:25
  I don't think he told me about it. Sweet. I probably am not meant to say it
• 59:30
  publicly, so every magician hears about the same idea.
• 59:34
  Take that potato, squeeze it into a real potato, you know?
• 59:39
  What kinds of stuff you could do with that? I'll tell you it off there.
• 59:42
  Yeah copperfield's team once
• 59:45
  lost the statue of liberty replica that was used for rehearsing the original
• 59:52
  effect so they had a replica of it to emulate the way that it was actually done
• 59:58
  and that replica is now missing true or false,
• 1:00:04
  I'm over here envisioning the world's record for most potato tricks performed
• 1:00:08
  by a magician underwater.
• 1:00:11
  So I'm going to be going for that record.
• 1:00:14
  Wow. That's so niche. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. False is my answer for that.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah, I'll go false. I got no idea. What is that?
• 1:00:23
  Yeah. He actually never used the replica or anything. They just made the room. Oh, come on, man.
• 1:00:28
  Why are you just giving us all these false? All right. Bring it home.
• 1:00:30
  Give us something juicy, man. What's the last fact?
• 1:00:32
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. A magician in the 1920s was arrested
• 1:00:37
  for levitating in front of a courthouse.
• 1:00:41
  And the charge was causing a public panic.
• 1:00:45
  True or false in the 1920s. It would have also been during the Spanish flu era
• 1:00:51
  as well. So it would have been.
• 1:00:54
  Let's just go through. One of them has to be true. Come on.
• 1:00:57
  I don't think so. I would say based on when the floating lady was developed,
• 1:01:02
  that illusion wasn't popular or even possible to do outdoors. False.
• 1:01:08
  False. God. All right. Thanks for watching, guys. We're going to see you next week.
• 1:01:14
  No one's been arrested for fucking limiting someone. Okay. There's two more
• 1:01:19
  left. Here we go. Oh, come on. All right.
• 1:01:21
  Let's do it. There is a trick known only by three living magicians,
• 1:01:27
  and it's been passed down by handshake every 25 years.
• 1:01:32
  I won't say what the trick is. False. And what's the last question?
• 1:01:40
  Doug? Yeah, I'm a Josh on this one. It's false. What's the last one?
• 1:01:44
  All right, it's false. Okay, great. And the last one's false too,
• 1:01:46
  but let's hear it anyway.
• 1:01:48
  Or did I switch it just to psych you out? Here it is.
• 1:01:53
  Term. If this last one's false, by the way, I swear to God,
• 1:02:00
  some bullshit. Fucking five extra minutes for false.
• 1:02:04
  It could be true. I'm just saying. It better be true. What is it?
• 1:02:07
  It could be. I don't know. Look, I liked it.
• 1:02:09
  I bring this, that may lull you into like the false reality that I've created.
• 1:02:13
  Here's what we're going to do.
• 1:02:14
  We're going to, you're going to say it. We're going to talk about it.
• 1:02:18
  And then when all you're going to say is true or false, and then we end the podcast.
• 1:02:22
  Okay. Well, you got to give your answer first. Here we'll see what's up.
• 1:02:26
  Jack, get ready. Here we go. The term. I just named it Orbead.
• 1:02:32
  That's hilarious. I'm just losing it. Okay. All right. What is it?
• 1:02:37
  Here with the final word.
• 1:02:40
  Okay. Here we go. The term close up magic originated from magicians sneaking into poker games.
• 1:02:51
  And showing tricks to hustling and hustling players norbido why are we still
• 1:02:58
  on the air jesus i know what a ball i'm so sorry guys it's false good night everybody,
• 1:03:07
  thanks for listening it's time for us.
• 1:03:09
  Music.