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First responders. Military. Hospital staff. All front-line workers MUST LISTEN. · Aired Out

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  Speaker 1: I have so much that has to be said. I
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  Speaker 1: have so many things that I want to share. Good
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  Speaker 1: things and some things that aren't really all that great
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  Speaker 1: in the news. You are probably aware of most of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I shouldn't assume otherwise, but man, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: to be said about what's going on in this crazy
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  Speaker 1: world of ours. And I'm going to try to chip
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  Speaker 1: away at it here over the next couple of days. Friday,
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  Speaker 1: G's going to be in here, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: attempt to do that. We're going to try really hard
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  Speaker 1: to get you caught up and to process some of
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  Speaker 1: what we're hearing. Oh, man. It's a lot. It really is.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to get to it. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to it. It is Wednesday. We're looking at 55
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  Speaker 1: degrees right now. 55 in the Granite City with clouds
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  Speaker 1: and much, much needed rain showers. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: happy about the rain. I don't know if you are,
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  Speaker 1: but I am. The river is totally dried up in
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  Speaker 1: my backyard. I mean, there's a little bit of water
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  Speaker 1: going through, but we need the rain badly. 55, we
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  Speaker 1: got rain coming today, 70 degrees for the daytime high.
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  Speaker 1: Rain tonight, 64. I don't know what's going to shake
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  Speaker 1: out with Courier Park today with the live music and
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  Speaker 1: the food trucks and the farmer's market. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll be watching the Berry Partnership to see if
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  Speaker 1: they put the kibosh on it. And I'll share it
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  Speaker 1: with you. But you should be doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Pay attention. Watch. Rain, again, 64 tonight. And then tomorrow, Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: clouds and sun and around 78 degrees. Happy Wednesday. Happy
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  Speaker 1: hump day. Deb Phillips with us on the line right
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  Speaker 1: now from the world. Good morning, Deb.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, J.D.
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  Speaker 1: How the heck are you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
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  Speaker 2: Doing great today.
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  Speaker 1: You off to a good start?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we are.
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  Speaker 1: What do we expect?
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  Speaker 2: Papers are here.
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  Speaker 3: We're sending them out.
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  Speaker 1: What are we looking forward to today?
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  Speaker 2: As always, in Central Vermont, we have a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: We have the schedule for the annual Tonbridge World's Fair.
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  Speaker 2: It's September 17th through the 20th. And we also have
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  Speaker 2: the schedule for the Plainfield Old Home Days on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: September 12th. We have the Granite Festival. Coming up on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: September 19th. A nice, nice add on that. And plus
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  Speaker 2: the Berry Opera House is starting their season. And it's
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  Speaker 2: with the Robert Cray Band on September 19th.
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  Speaker 1: And the last time that he performed at the Opera House,
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  Speaker 1: everybody was begging him to come back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he is back. Yeah. Definitely back.
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  Speaker 1: He likes coming to Vermont, Robert Cray.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I hear he's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you can think of, Deb?
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  Speaker 2: We do have a page honoring 9-11 25 years later,
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  Speaker 2: which is hard to imagine that it's been 25 years,
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  Speaker 2: but it definitely has been.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we have the AR Market in Barry is celebrating
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  Speaker 2: turning six years old. Wow. They're going to have 20%
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  Speaker 2: off storewide on Saturday, September 12th.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing. You said six years?
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  Speaker 2: That's what it says.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: It's turning six.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful little market. Definitely worth the time to go and
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  Speaker 2: do some shopping.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say. Everybody and anybody listening
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  Speaker 1: loves the World Newspaper. We love getting that weekly copy
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  Speaker 1: fresh in our hands, whether it's the crossword puzzles, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's just reading the old bits or reading what's happening
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  Speaker 1: under the Golden Dome. You guys are doing a great
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  Speaker 1: job covering all that stuff, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just amazing for such a small community how
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  Speaker 2: much we have going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Deb, thank you ever so much. VT-World.com. I think if
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  Speaker 1: you want to get the digital version, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Good stuff. Thank you, Deb.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Deb Phillips right there live on Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: mornings from the world. Just a little brief snapshot of
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. But do pick up a fresh copy today.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look and read about everything that's happening. Wednesdays,
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  Speaker 1: we try. to have.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm going to back that up. I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: going to say we try. We have been very successful
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  Speaker 1: in having impactful conversations on Wednesdays. Real conversations that really matter.
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  Speaker 1: And they have touched many, many lives. I am so blessed...
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  Speaker 1: to have been introduced to Tom Murphy a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago. It was a chance thing. I'm so glad
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  Speaker 1: that the, as he often says, that the planets aligned
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  Speaker 1: and that I was able to meet him. And not
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  Speaker 1: just Tom, but his network, his friends, the members, the
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  Speaker 1: family members, team members, of course, yes, but more family
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  Speaker 1: members of Sweethearts and Heroes. Beyond Rick Yarish. And to
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  Speaker 1: have brought these guys consistently over the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: years on the air, devoting our time together every Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: has been massive for me. Personally, I have left many
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  Speaker 1: Wednesdays with a head that is just swirling with thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: The last two Wednesdays, I've left the air and gone
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  Speaker 1: out and sat in my truck before I've even put
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  Speaker 1: it in gear and had a pen in my hand,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm still taking notes. even though we're off the air.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. This guy right here, look at him. He's
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  Speaker 1: nodding his head already. Mike Starner. Good morning, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, JD. Thanks for having me. It's good to
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  Speaker 4: be with you and your listeners, viewers, uh, on this
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  Speaker 4: beautiful Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: You know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't you, Mike?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: You know, um, Tom Murphy and his gang of folks
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  Speaker 4: that go out there and help us all kind of
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  Speaker 4: think about things differently.
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  Speaker 3: Man, they're in the right place at the right time.
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  Speaker 4: And it's kind of an organic thing, which is a
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  Speaker 4: little different than some of the things we experience when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to this topic. You know, if you listen
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  Speaker 4: to his story, which I know your listeners have in
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  Speaker 4: the past, you know, it starts off with his own.
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  Speaker 4: personal experiences and, and getting involved with school age kids
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  Speaker 4: and then getting in with military folks and now working
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  Speaker 4: in the, in the trades and, and, you know, that
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  Speaker 4: path just laid out before him in a very organic way.
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  Speaker 4: And it's the relationships that he builds, the way he
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  Speaker 4: approaches things and you're, you're dead on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he is something else. Mike, you. are the
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  Speaker 1: Director of Outside Line Safety for the National Electrical Contractors Association.
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  Speaker 1: As you like to put it, the safety man for NECA.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So NECA is a trade association. We represent the electrical
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  Speaker 4: construction industry. We have chapters around the country. We have
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  Speaker 4: what we consider to be inside chapters, sort of your
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  Speaker 4: industrial commercial electricians. And then we have our outside, which is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the line contractors, the folks that work on
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  Speaker 4: utility systems.
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  Speaker 3: My role in safety is targeted to that outside line group.
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  Speaker 4: And so, you know, I try to develop resources and
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  Speaker 4: perform advocacy and work on policy that, helps electrical contractors
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  Speaker 4: be successful. And, you know, we think about safety and
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  Speaker 4: we think about, you know, occupational health and safety, things
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  Speaker 4: that hurt you in the workplace.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, we've expanded that.
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  Speaker 4: And there's been a sort of a journey that we've
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  Speaker 4: gone on as an industry to think about workers in
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  Speaker 4: their totality more than just, you know, when they're turning
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  Speaker 4: a wrench, you know, how's their mind, body and spirit
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  Speaker 4: on these work in these workplaces, too, because it has
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  Speaker 4: an impact.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, who do you report to? Who is your boss,
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  Speaker 1: your supervisor, your superior?
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  Speaker 4: I work for a great man named Jeff Fagan. Jeff
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  Speaker 4: Fagan is NECA's chief operating officer. And that's one of
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  Speaker 4: the advantages of my role is, you know, I report
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  Speaker 4: directly to the top of the house. Of course, we
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  Speaker 4: have a CEO, David Long, who is a champion of
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  Speaker 4: in our industry for all things that help our contractors
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  Speaker 4: be successful.
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  Speaker 3: But he's got a soft spot for.
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  Speaker 4: The human element, you know, helping people be the best
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  Speaker 4: they can be. And with Jeff as our chief operating officer,
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  Speaker 4: really helping to give us some flexibility and identifying things
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  Speaker 4: that are going to make a big difference out there.
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  Speaker 4: And so I couldn't be luckier to have sort of
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  Speaker 4: that support structure above me. And then, of course, we
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  Speaker 4: have a great team that surrounds us. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: have a partner, Wes Wheeler, who's our are inside safety.
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  Speaker 4: So if I'm outside safety, he's inside safety. And we
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  Speaker 4: work collaboratively, collaboratively on things that are general safety and health,
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  Speaker 4: but we're all tuned into this topic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do these guys, do these gentlemen say to you, Mike, listen,
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  Speaker 1: we need you to take this beyond just another corporate
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  Speaker 1: safety initiative. We really need you to dig a little deeper,
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  Speaker 1: get more involved, or is that just something that you've
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  Speaker 1: just kind of inherently done?
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  Speaker 4: It's both, you know, we have, we have marching orders
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  Speaker 4: that this is a, this is a priority for our
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  Speaker 4: industry to, to get out in front of this thing. We've,
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  Speaker 4: we've sat on the sidelines for way too long. You know,
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  Speaker 4: one of the sensitivities around mental health is that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of set aside for, for HR to
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  Speaker 4: deal with, you know, protecting people, employee privacy, limiting liability,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the exposure the company might have to getting
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  Speaker 4: too ahead of their skis when it comes to personal
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  Speaker 4: issues that employees might be having. And we've made a
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  Speaker 4: conscious decision at NECA that, you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: push past that, you know, that stigma, that restriction to
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  Speaker 4: sort of isolate one part of the worker versus another
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  Speaker 4: part of the worker, that just doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: And if we're going to have any impact, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's a mission of ours to go after it.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you know, people that are in safety generally gravitate
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  Speaker 4: to safety because they love people, you know, I'm that
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  Speaker 4: way too. And so, you know, just in my day-to-day
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  Speaker 4: activities and trying to learn more about people and connect
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  Speaker 4: with people in a way that helps them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: take advantage of their full potential. That's something I've always
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  Speaker 4: kind of had inside me. But this gives me some
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  Speaker 4: direction and something that I can work on. And, and honestly, I,
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  Speaker 4: When we first started having these conversations, there wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: ton of resources out there. There wasn't a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people having these tough conversations in a way that were impactful.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of awareness stuff like, hey, if you're
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  Speaker 4: feeling down, call the employee assistance number and we'll get
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  Speaker 4: you connected to professionals, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But that doesn't really have the impact of what we
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  Speaker 3: see with the Sweethearts and Heroes program.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we put a call out to anyone who
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  Speaker 1: owns a business, anyone who manages employees anyone who has
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  Speaker 1: a staff to look after, even on a real small level,
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  Speaker 1: even if you have one or two or three or
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  Speaker 1: five employees, being aware of mental health and how your
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  Speaker 1: team is doing is one thing, but taking real action
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  Speaker 1: and real preventative action is a whole other thing. And
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  Speaker 1: that involves, for many of us, Mike, stepping out, outside
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  Speaker 1: of a comfort zone and having these conversations that are
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  Speaker 1: not often easy to have and not natural for us
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  Speaker 1: to have. But you guys, I mean, the IBEWs everywhere
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  Speaker 1: are really starting to wake up to this, man.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And that's one of the success stories that I'm really
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  Speaker 4: happy to talk about is, you know, this is one
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  Speaker 4: of those topics where labor and management get together. And
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  Speaker 4: we were pretty unified in the approach and the importance
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  Speaker 4: of it. And so, you know, one of the advantages,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I'm biased, but, you know, one of
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  Speaker 4: the advantages of the NECA-IBW relationship is you have partners
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  Speaker 4: to address some of these issues and you have scale.
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  Speaker 4: So at the national level, you have NECA. which represents
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  Speaker 4: the employers. And then you have the international office that
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  Speaker 4: represents all the entirety of the IBEW membership. But then
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  Speaker 4: we have local players. We have the local unions who
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  Speaker 4: represent their members locally. And then we have our local chapters.
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  Speaker 4: And so there's a local interaction that takes place too.
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  Speaker 4: So this is not just strategically, we're on the same page.
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  Speaker 4: This is on the tactical level, getting these resources, having
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  Speaker 4: these conversations, you know, setting up meetings, you know, making
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  Speaker 4: sure employees have what they need so they can attend
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  Speaker 4: these meetings, making it a priority, you know, and having,
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  Speaker 4: you know, union leadership say, this is something that's important
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  Speaker 4: for our members. And also the contractor saying, hey, this
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  Speaker 4: is something that we want to invest in. That's truly
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  Speaker 4: been a success story.
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  Speaker 3: And you're right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we have a lot of reach, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we represent close to 60% of the market that's out there.
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  Speaker 4: So the lion's share of electrical work that's performed out
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  Speaker 4: there is performed by by union electricians and, and, and
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  Speaker 4: supported by, you know, Nika contractors. So we're proud to
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  Speaker 4: say that, and we can have an influence on the industry, uh,
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  Speaker 4: in a way that that's meaningful and not just, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 4: using a catchphrase or, or, or cute banner.
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  Speaker 1: Here we are, uh, September suicide awareness month. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to certainly don't need to remind you of that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about the fifth wire here
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  Speaker 1: in just a second here and your description of it. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Tom was telling me that he went down
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  Speaker 1: and met with a large, large number of linemen. Had
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  Speaker 1: circle group meetings, face-to-face meetings. And then when he left,
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  Speaker 1: it was quiet for a little while, but one phone
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  Speaker 1: call came in to him. And it was you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What was that all about?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, like when I started out, you know,
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  Speaker 4: his success story is because of who he is and
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  Speaker 4: the people who he surrounds himself and what's important to him.
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  Speaker 4: And if you ever go watch Tom, he'll tell you
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  Speaker 4: his whole story, how this happened.
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  Speaker 3: The breadcrumb trail, how it all developed over time.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, I, in my role, I support our
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  Speaker 4: contractors and many of our contractors will have safety and
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  Speaker 4: health days where they bring employees in and they, and
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  Speaker 4: they have safety topics, sort of a stand down.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, let's reset. Let's talk about safety and health.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, I attended one of these events is
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  Speaker 4: North line utilities up in Syracuse area.
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  Speaker 3: They had at the.
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  Speaker 4: 1249 local union, 1249 is training facility there. They had
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  Speaker 4: a really cool stand down. I've participated in a couple
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  Speaker 4: of times, but this is the first time running into Tom. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I kind of got prepped as people who
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  Speaker 4: know Tom will, will help prep others to, to, to
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  Speaker 4: meet Tom, you know, so you don't go in cold.
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  Speaker 4: Cause Tom is high energy and he doesn't, and he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't ease into it. You're getting all the time right away.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And so I met, I met Tom at an opening
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  Speaker 4: reception and here he comes, you know, big burly guy.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the cauliflower ear. He's got the free hug
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  Speaker 4: shirt on. He's got his painted nails and he's, 100%
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  Speaker 4: right in your face right away.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you? What do you do?
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  Speaker 4: What's your family? And I was like, wow, what is
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  Speaker 4: this guy all about? Well, the next day we had
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  Speaker 4: the actual event and you mentioned the circles and, you know,
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  Speaker 4: one of the, one of the really the magical things
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  Speaker 4: about what Tom's doing is it taps into this.
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  Speaker 3: Sort of primal way that human beings connect with each other.
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  Speaker 4: And, and so he does this circle where he gets
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  Speaker 4: folks around in a circle, like you might imagine being
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  Speaker 4: around a campfire. And then you have to remember that
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  Speaker 4: we're dealing with linemen, right? So these are linemen, linemen
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  Speaker 4: are all type a personalities you know they gravitate to
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  Speaker 4: this trade because they're risk takers that they're you know
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  Speaker 4: do things that ordinary people don't necessarily want to do
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  Speaker 4: so you get kind of like an outlaw element a
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  Speaker 4: little ruggedness a little bit of you know hey you
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  Speaker 4: know don't tell me what to do kind of personalities
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  Speaker 4: and so we try to get these guys in and
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  Speaker 4: have a meaningful session and so you know tom had
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  Speaker 4: this classroom environment he brought everybody in he set the
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  Speaker 4: ground rules he says as soon as we shut this
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  Speaker 4: door you know this is going to be candid conversation.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to talk about issues. You know, you don't
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  Speaker 4: have to participate, but you can't just sit and watch. Um, and, and,
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  Speaker 4: and so, you know, you really got people's mind tuned
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  Speaker 4: in and here comes one guy late to the meeting,
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  Speaker 4: opens the door, walks in like a, you know like
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  Speaker 4: a grouchy old cowboy slams the door shut and tom
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  Speaker 4: says oh i like you come sit next to me
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  Speaker 4: oh shit so tom brought him next to him uh
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  Speaker 4: and you know at the first he was arms crossed
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  Speaker 4: he's grouchy he doesn't want to be there he thinks
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  Speaker 4: it's all stupid and man by the time the circle
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  Speaker 4: was done by the time tom was done working his
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  Speaker 4: magic this guy had opened up and was telling us things,
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  Speaker 4: very intimate things about his life and, and things that
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  Speaker 4: he was struggling with and things that he's overcome.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And that's when I knew I said, this is different. Yeah.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: This is different because it, it cracks through, it cracks
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: through a veneer and it's very thick in our trade.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: And it gets people to open up in a way which,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: which made a hundred percent sense to me. If we
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: can get people to open up and connect with each other,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: everything else that we want to do is so much easier. So,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I went home and simmered on it for
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: a little bit, and, of course, we have a safety
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: conference that we do each year, and we always look
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: for impactful speakers.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: And I said, I don't have to think about this one.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I said, we're going to bring Tom in, do his
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: general session that he does, you know, the ignition, as
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: they call it, and get everybody hyped up about what
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: they want to do. And then we'll do some circles
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: just to give people a flavor for it, and then
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: the rest is history.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Isn't that something else? You know, look at this. We
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: got Chad Altheiser. who's tuned in right now. Listen, say hello.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Did you have a chance to see him on the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: air with me a couple of weeks ago?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I did. Yep. And I just met him recently.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: We just had an event at our American line builders chapter,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to get Tom more and more exposure,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: not that he needs it because it's catching on wildfire now,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: but we want to make sure that we have more exposure.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And I met Chad and, and I got to hear
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: him present his story to a group of our folks
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and man, what a great dude he is.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and tougher than nails. And here's the thing,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and we all know this. I'm not saying anything that's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: new here. Whether it's Chad, whether it's Rick, these guys are,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: they're badasses. I mean, for real, what they've done. Just
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: in the military alone, badasses, tougher than nails. And these
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: are guys just like linemen who understand that when it's showtime,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it's showtime.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what else is going on. It
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's raining, sleeting, snowing, windy, dark. It's showtime,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and you all need to suck it up, put the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: boots on, and we need to go into action. There
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: are people that rely on us. Some of them are
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: standing right next to us, and many of them, most
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: of them, are not. But there's no time for bullshit.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It's action time. So whatever it is that's crawling around
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: inside your head, renting space, distracting you, bothering you, any
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: weight that you're carrying, you got to shake that shit
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: off right now, Mike.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he promotes that. He doesn't sugarcoat it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: He says, look, when it's time to do what we
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: got to do, push that stuff down, figure out what
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: we need to do next.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Let's get this over with.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: But but when we but when we have a chance
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: to debrief and when we have a chance to kind
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: of open up a little bit and relax, then then
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: we need to let the we need to let that
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: dragon out, because if not, it just sits in there
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: and stews and stews and stews.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that Chad's story is
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: so great.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: He talks about all the adversity and and how through
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: time you had to. you know, put these layers of
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: defenses over top of something that was down deep inside
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: that he never was really able to get out.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: But once he started to recognize.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: That and reflect a little bit, have the support system
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: around him to help, you know, foster those kinds of conversations,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: then you can do a lot of great things. And,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you know, you talked about, you know, the nature of
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: these guys, you know, Rick and his story and Chad
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and Tom, everybody comes to the story, gives them a
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: lot of credibility. And that's the key, right? That's the
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: cost of admission that gets you into the room. But
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: what the magic really is that when our guys start
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to see them open up about their personal struggles and
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: their stories, then it becomes relatable in a way that's
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: not just about credibility. It's not just, okay, I'm going
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: to listen to you. It's about, man, I'm experiencing the
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: same stuff or something very, very similar. And then guys
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: can let go of that stigma.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I've heard you say the word connection a couple of times,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: but man– you just said it relatable, the R word. Um,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you know, what I hang, like I try to hang
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: my hat on here at aired out is, is, is
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: one of those ours. It's, it's relatable, real, raw, relevant, relatable.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: If you can't be relatable on some level, even humor.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, we, I, We joke around a lot here
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: on the air. But some of what we're joking around
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: about is relatable stuff that happens in real life at home,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: in your family environment. But, man, it's like you've got
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to connect with people from the standpoint of relatability. It's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: almost everything.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's, you know, these guys are judicious with the
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: trust that they give out. And so you have to
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: earn the trust. You have to kind of get it
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: right away. Uh, because once they, they give you the
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: sniff test and they think if you're just give them
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: a tagline or something out of the.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Company brochure, Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. You've lost them.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: And so if you can build trust and then, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: then they can relate to what your, your, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: your story and say, Hey, this is something that's very
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: similar to my issue or my struggle or, or my
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: challenge or, or somebody that I know, uh, then you
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: can have the real conversation. Then you can start to
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: have discussions about things. Okay, what are we going to
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: do next?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Wynton Buddington just dropped a line here in the comments
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: live here saying, everyone has a struggle we know nothing about.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And literally, the word everyone.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a true statement, right?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Would you agree? 100%. You describe the Fifth Wire program
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: as something that is somewhat of a solution-based initiative. What
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is the Fifth Wire program in your reality, your definition
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of it?
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I think it's a structured program that gives clear direction
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: on what we're trying to do.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And it's a map, right?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: And so one of the great things about Tom, whether
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: he's doing a general session or if he's doing some
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: of this Fifth Wire work, is one thing builds on
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: top of the next thing. So you have to get
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: people prepared for what's coming next. And the structure of
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the program really lends itself to that. So, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: it has a couple of different versions. There's an apprentice
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: version that that's really been catching on like.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Wildfire with our local unions.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: And then there's a contractor version that we're promoting with
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: our contractors, something that they can bring in house.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And then there's different tiers.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: You know, you can have like the full fledged, give me,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: give me everything you got Tom Cadillac option. And that's
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: where it's a fully facilitated program. You know, based, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: time-based structure to it. You know, we have, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the introduction where they really kind of get people pumped
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: about what this is all about and get people connected
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: because you got to get them with the hook so
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: that they're ready for the next thing. And then once
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: you get these people emotionally invested, then you can start
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: really working on them.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: So there's a facilitator training.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: There's all kinds of things that you can take and
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: sort of kind of train the trainer, and you can
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: expand this out further in your organization. So we talk
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: about awareness a lot, you know, and Tom makes the
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: joke about the not, you know, the coins that have
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: numbers on them or, or the bumper sticker that says, hey,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: you need help call somebody and, and, and as good
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: as important as those things are to raise awareness, not
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: something you can really do something with, right?
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: It makes you feel good that you that you put
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: them out on the table.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: It makes you feel good that maybe somebody has a
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: sticker on their hard hat, but is it really actionable?
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: The Fifth Wire program is an actionable plan. So if
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: you're looking for like, what can I do? And you're
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: kind of pulling at straws and you're saying, okay, well,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping that out of this plethora of options that
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I have that are centered around total worker health, mental health,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: suicide prevention, opioid addiction, out of all these things that
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: are out there, I'm just hoping that one of these
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: things works. You don't have to hope with this program.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: This program is tried and true. There's testimonials that, I mean,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: we could go over them over and over and over.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: We could spend two or three of your podcasts talking
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: about just testimonials. People said, hey, I sat through your session.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: We applied it locally. I actually saved somebody's life. They
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: called me up. They were in a precarious situation. We
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: talked through it. They were able to connect with each
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: other like a human being. Yeah, which is which is
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: what we're after. See, that's one of the other things here, JD.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: This finds its way into the workplace, but it's really
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: a broader issue, right?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: It's a societal issue. It's a generational issue.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: There's all kinds of things that are bubbling out there
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: in the ether that just find their way into the workplace.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: And so the question is, what can you do in
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the workplace first to eliminate stressors that add to it?
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: And what can you do to build that sort of
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: connection and purpose? So people have a release and this
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: program helps you do that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: You know, I I'm, I'm sitting here, I'm, I'm listening
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to you. I'm thinking about first responders, you know, here
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: we are, um, head first into the anniversary of September 11th.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I think of, of just all the, the first responders
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: then that, um, didn't have to think twice about responding, reacting,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: knowing that they were running into the situation that they
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: may not be able to, and frankly, probably wouldn't be
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: running out of first responders everywhere, man. And you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: The thing is, though, Mike, you know, the other side
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: of this is that, and maybe this is stigma. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I want to hear what Wynton
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and Chad have to say, too, and anyone. But it's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like there's this notion of, hey, man, you joined the military. Hey, man,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you're a paramedic. hey, you're a fireman. You signed up
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: for this. This is what you wanted. There's really not
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a whole hell of a lot of time or space
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to be talking about the effects that this industry or
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that this career that you've chosen has had on you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: or is having on you. There's just not a lot
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: of time for that, man. You signed up for this.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You know what you've got to do. Now you got
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And we see that reflected in the numbers, right?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: And so these high risk industries or these high risk environments,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: they have higher numbers of suicides.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And, you know, why is it?
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if anybody really has the answer,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: but you could make the assumption. It makes sense that,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: you know, just exactly what you said. There's a high
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: demand to be at your best, to respond without asking questions,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: you know, leave your feelings off to the side.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: And we never give them a chance to purge, unload
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: that stuff.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: And whether that's, whether that's the Marines, you know, busting
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: through the front line to go and do something on
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: the battlefield, or whether it's a lineman who's responding to
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: a hurricane or working, you know, many of these guys
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: work hundreds of miles from home. They're, they're, they're on
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: a big project. They live on the East coast or
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: out on the West coast. Cause that's where the big
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: project is. They're living in a man camp, which is
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: just a big trailer park for, for guys that are
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: working away from home. You know, they, They tend to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: pair up in these trailers so that they have some comradery,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: but you know, what are they doing? Are they taking
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: care of their health? Are they, you know, they're working
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: 16 hours or more a day.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Uh, they get home.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Do they, do they go to the gym? Do they
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: eat healthy meals? Are they getting to bed early? Probably not.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And then what's going on at home. You got, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: financial issues building, you know, mama's got a problem. The
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: washing machine broke, the kids got recital and she's worried
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: about where dad is.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: There's things build up. And so it's layers, layers, and layers.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: And if you don't have a system in place, an intentional,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: that's what I would say. What you do in this area,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: you have to be intentional about. You can't just leave
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: it to chance. You can't just say, well, if I
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: have a chance to talk to somebody and see how
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: they're doing, I'm going to do it. You have to
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: be very intentional. So that's my leadership message here is
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: if you have a responsibility for the people that are
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: around you, even if they don't directly report to you,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: it's a coming upon all of us to help create
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: the environment where people can purge, as you put it,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and get more.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Relief in their life.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: So it's not just always being smacked in the face
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: every day. You have some way of releasing that burden
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: onto somebody else. And that's really the human connection piece, right?
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: That's part of Tom's message is, you know, thousands of
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: years of human connection and tribal influence and working together
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to solve problems and identifying what our biggest danger is
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: and what's the solution and capitalizing on the collective strengths
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: of your tribe and figuring it out together. That's what
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: our society has kind of forgotten a little bit. And
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: certainly in the workplace, we're not leveraging that as much
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: as we should either.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: During the circle meetings that you've had with Tom, Have
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you– I think I know the answer to this, but
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask it anyways. Have you felt the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: energy of, whoa, we're out of the comfort zone here?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: What is this all about? What are we doing? What
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Holy crap. People just kind
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of squirming and wanting to get the hell out of there?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you seen that? I've experienced it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean– Um, so I've been through a few
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: circles myself and, you know, you kind of got an
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: idea of where he's going with it, right? He's getting
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: everybody ready. He's going to start off with soft, softball questions.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: He kind of facilitates a discussion. You go around the horn.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: People can offer up something where they can choose not to.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Everybody wants to participate generally, right? Most, most people don't
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: want to be that grouchy lineman I was telling you about.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Most of them want to participate somehow, some way. So
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: they're thinking about, okay, how am I going to respond
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: to this question that he's asking without making myself too vulnerable.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I don't look like a goofball. So that's what I
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: think most people's anxiety is around. How open can I be?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: So they give, you know, like when they give you
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: a job interview, they say, tell me something about yourself
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: that that's not so great. And you always try to,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: you always try to use a strength as a weakness.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I just worked too hard.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That's terrible.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's, that's what guys start to do when
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: they first go off, right. As it starts going right.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: But then here's the magic. You can't control it. It
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: has a life of its own. By the time you
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: get two or three in, people say, you know what,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I'm going to share a little bit more. I'm going
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: to share a little bit more. And then when somebody
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: else recognizes somebody else is being vulnerable, then they're vulnerable.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: And then by the time it gets to you, man,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: something you were thinking about saying it was very safe,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: you just come out and say it, man, whatever that
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: deep down thing is, and you start to cry. And
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: you start to look across the room and other people
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: are looking at you in a way that's not judging, but.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: They're like, I hear you, brother.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Man, it's magical. And you really can't talk about it
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: like me and you talking about it here.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: You have to be in the room and you have
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: to open.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Your heart in that room for you to really understand
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: what it is.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I keep telling Tom, he's not listening to me. But
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I keep telling him, I'm like, dude, we need to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: get like IBEW heavy hitters and Sweethearts and Heroes family
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to sit in one gargantuan circle. And maybe live stream
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Maybe.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that might break the time-space continuum. Because I'm telling you,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you get 20 guys in a room, it's about.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: All you can take.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I know, man. I know. You know, Tom asked me,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of years ago, I think
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it was, to come up and sit in a circle
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of high school students in Peru, New York.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. two and a half hour, three
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: hour drive, something like that. It was my first circle
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: group with Tom. And I'll tell you, I've said this
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: before in the air, but I'll say it again. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: don't remember my three hour drive home. I don't remember it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I stopped that. Stop lights. I
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: was so consumed with what I had heard from these
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: teenagers was unbelievable. And I was just so filled with
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: so many follow-up questions that I wasn't allowed to. ask
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: because you were forced to listen, Mike.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, man. How tough that is. Yeah.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: And you know what, you know, I've been there too.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: And that's why I said it has a light. It
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: takes a life of its own. You don't have to honestly,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: you don't have to promote this program other than making
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: sure people have access to it. Cause once, once they participate,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: they're going to have the same experience you had now,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: you know, it's even tougher. I can imagine listening to
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: the kids and all the baggage that these young people
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: are carrying. It's just, that's heartbreaking. You know, my wife
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: works in an elementary school and she's a support room
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: assistant and her job is to, you know, work with
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: these kids that have trouble, you know, managing the behavior and, and,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: and their emotions and things. And, And, you know, it's
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: heartbreaking just to hear the things that come to the surface.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: That you can't help but see.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine what that's like to hear from these
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: kids the things that they don't share or they don't
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: want you to see.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Comments coming in. Simple, action-based, life-saving. Everything can
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: be hard. Everyone has a different threshold for hard, and
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: everyone feels pressure somewhere in their lives, whether it's at
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: work or at home. Wynton just dropped a comment here saying,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the magic and power of Circle is learning other stories
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and seeing the connections to your experience. This is what
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: builds hope.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, empathy.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Empathy.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: This is tremendous stuff. I, you know, speaking on behalf
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of Sweethearts and Heroes, I'm so glad. that you took
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the initiative to pick up the phone and, and contact
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Tom and say, well, might need to have you back
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: or let's do something more together.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Well, and you know what, you know, yeah, it's, it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: a good thing for me to have as a, as
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: an offering for our members.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: It's a good thing for us to do collectively to help.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Do something to make it, to make a difference. But
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: most importantly, Tom is my friend. And so, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I have a lifelong relationship now with a man who's
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: out there who's, who just is the right person at
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: the right time with the right message.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: His heart is so big.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: And here's something I don't think everybody talks about Tom
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: and his, his high energy and his, you know, stature and, and,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: you know, some of the aggressiveness in his, in his approach.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: But he's pretty learned on, you know, the behavioral science, right?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: If you listen to him talk about, you know, the
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: actual academic side of how human beings tick and the
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: philosophy that's out there and the site, he'll cite philosophers
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: and he'll tell stories.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: That, I mean, he's deep, brother. He's not just a
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: beautiful face.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: No. Or big muscles.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: It is literally impossible to put that guy in a box.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's unique.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally and figuratively. But yeah, man, he's top brass.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: And by the way, that's what he refers to you
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: as top brass. You're doing a great job, Mike. I mean,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: it's so much more than a job. And I hope. Respectfully.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that those gentlemen that you mentioned earlier are aware of
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: what you're doing for Nika. It's massive. It's not big. It's,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it's massive and it's totally essential.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a collective effort, right?
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: The things that you're doing JD to amplify the message,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: everything that we're doing to try to, you know, promote
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: it and get it more broadly available to folks. It's
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: all of us rowing in the same direction together.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Thanks for coming on, Mike. I appreciate it
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: so much. You're doing yeoman's work. You and the rest
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of the team with Sweethearts and Heroes. I hope to
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: meet you someday. It would be great if we did
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: this big circle-a-thon at some point.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Just a phone call away, my friend.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Thank you so much, Mike.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Have a great day, everybody.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: You got it. Let them get back to work. Yeah, wow. Incredible.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about, man.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It's impactful stuff like this that really, really makes a difference.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: If this is something that resonates with you, whether you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: own a business, have a couple of employees, as I
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: said earlier, or whether you're managing a huge staff. And frankly,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter what kind of business it is.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Because your employees, whoever they are, are carrying some form
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: of weight. And your job, I think, as a business owner,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: as a manager, is to not just make sure that
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the numbers are in at the end of the month,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and that your customers are happy, but that your employees
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: are as happy as they can be, and that you
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: are connected to them on a level that is beyond
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that cashier checkout line, or whatever it is that they do.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Great stuff this morning. Sweethearts and heroes. Every single Wednesday.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know that we... What have we missed?
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: One?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Two?
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Out of the last couple of years, Wednesdays, I look
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: forward to them all week long. Thank you, Mike Starner,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Director of Outside Line Safety for NECA, National Electrical... Contractors Association,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: who's connected with us just outside of Baltimore this morning.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Great stuff. Chatting with Deb Phillips this morning, leading off
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: your Wednesday morning, who was saying that in today's world,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: newspaper is the complete schedule for the Tunbridge World's Fair.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: So grab a copy of The World when you see
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: it today. It is actually on the move right now.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: It hit newsstands everywhere. But it's also being hand-delivered by
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: folks on foot right now. And my copy will be
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: showing up here at the studio any second. I can't
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: wait to see the Tunbridge World's Fair schedule. This is
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the time of year where you're like, ooh, ooh, got
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to do that. Ooh, got to do that before it
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: gets any later. Man, there's a lot of stuff that's
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: happening here. And I'm just glancing at the calendar. Hillsborough
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: County Agricultural Fair. over in New Hampshire is going on.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: We got Tunbridge. That's happening right now, by the way. Uh, well,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. Hold on. Starts on Friday, runs through
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the 13th Hillsboro. I'm talking about. And then on the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: 17th is the kickoff to the Tunbridge world's fair. How
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: many years is it now? A hundred and what now?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I should know. I don't. I admit it. It's one 30,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: one 50, something like that. It's, Long-ass time. Got to
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: go get some corn at the Tunbridge World's Fair. With
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: regard to the weather forecast, concerts in the park every Wednesday.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Not sure if this one will fly tonight. Earthbound Spirits
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Trio scheduled to perform Courier Park tonight, I think around
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: five 30 or so it's supposed to be raining. It's
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I'm looking out the window here on North main street,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: not raining yet, uh, but it's coming. And if you
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: take a glance at your weather app, you'll probably see
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the green and maybe some yellows, but it's coming. Um,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: so I'm, you know, I don't think they've put the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: kibosh on it yet, but don't be surprised. Um, But
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: it's always a good time. Concerts in the park at
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Courier Park, the farmer's market, the food trucks. Hopefully, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't look promising, but hopefully we'll be able to
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: get it in. Native Tongue, by the way, next Wednesday,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the 16th. And there's a few more. We got Seth
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and Sophie on the 23rd. We got the Messengers on
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the 30th. I think that'll be the final one.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Is tomorrow run what you brung, Becky? At Thunder Road. Boy,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: how about Gray and Corliss, though? What a weekend it was.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Labor Day Classic. Upper Valley, speaking of cars, Upper Valley
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Cars and Coffee has their, I just did their Under
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the Lights night at the Powerhouse Mall in West Leb,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and it was incredible. Last Friday night, unbelievable. Chris will
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: tell us. But I think it was right around 300 cars.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: It was insane. Insane. Under the lights. Loved it. Every
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: second of it. Make sure to follow Upper Valley Cars
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and Coffee on Facebook. But they've got another car show
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday. And I think there's two more.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I think there's this one. And then the last one
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: will be in October. But Powerhouse Mall down in West
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Leb is where it is. Thank you, Becky. Run what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you brung. I want to know, Becky, if you've ever
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: thought about running what you're bringing. What else is happening?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Grand Point North on the 18th, taking over the Burlington waterfront.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Until the 20th, three days of live music. Grace Potter,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Jackson Brown. Jackson, by the way, is going to be
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: performing with his full band on Saturday the 19th. Amazing.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: VIP tickets available for every day of the festival. But yeah,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Portugal the Man also going to be playing. It's going
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to be crazy. Could be awesome. I know there's some
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: pretty heavy stuff that is going on in Barrie. Right
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: here in our little city. Attempted murder. Just one of
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the headlines. Um Yeah, there's some pretty heavy stuff that's
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: going on. And I know that. I've seen it on Facebook,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: just like you have. I've shared some of it. There's
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: also some great things going on. And Deb Phillips from
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: The World was just listing off some of Stuff going
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: on at the Granite Museum. There's things going on for
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the family. Berry City Elementary School last night did an
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: amazing thing for our community. Outdoors, bringing our community together,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: bringing kids together, having some fun. There's a lot of
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: great stuff that's going on. I encourage you. to look
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: beyond the crap. There's always going to be crap. No
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: matter what town you live in, and I don't give
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a damn if it's Shelburne or Burlington or Montpelier, there's
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: always going to be heavy stuff. There's always going to
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: be things that are going to happen in your community
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: where you're going to be thinking, oh my God, I
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: can't believe that's happening right here where I live in
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: my backyard. But find the good stuff, man. A lot
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of what I've been reading lately on Barry City resident
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: chat Barry Vermont resident chat. My general consensus of it
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: is that there's still just a lot of people walking
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: around with a lot of I guess to sum it up,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: just a lot of anger. And Kind of defaulting to that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: And I get it. I get it. But damn, it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: like we all need to just take a deep breath.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just getting a message here about the... flock cameras.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And the concern here in Barry about them, what they are.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: And I know that it's not just Billy, but there's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: many that are looking for straight answers. and have concerns
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: about surveillance cameras. And I know that so many of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: us have real questions about flock. One of the messages
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: that I have received, a private message, is something that
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: made me stop, think. And then I forced myself to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: rethink and to try to look at this from a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: little higher altitude. How I feel about flock cameras. So
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: What I did with that was I picked up the
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: phone and I called our police chief here in Barrie City,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Brad Vail. And we had a rather candid conversation. Short,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: but right to the point. And I said, look, you know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I have my questions and I've just fired off a few.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: but the community also has questions. There's a lot of misinformation.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of reaction that is coming out of
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: our community where it's emotional reaction. You know, And I'm
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: looking at Billy's post here. Flock cameras. Who authorized it?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: When was it approved? Who paid for it? When was
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: it installed? When and how was the public notified? I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: think that you're going to be very surprised when you
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: hear the answers to these questions that I'm going to
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: ask tomorrow morning, right here, on aired out, to our
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: police chief. I think he'll be surprised. And I was like,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Chief, real transparency needs to be put out here.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: We need to, like, communicate with a lot of people.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Because there are so many keyboard warriors on some of
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: these resident chat pages. And there's so much emotional reaction
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: to stuff. It's not just Berry City. I know that.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: But man, it's like, the record needs to be set
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: straight here. Like, what is the deal so that we
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: can just Stop with the hypothetical hyperbole. and just get
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: down to the nitty gritty here? Let's just sift through
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: all the bullshit and tell it like it is. What
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: is the deal? And it's not just the flock cameras.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: It's security cameras. Surveillance cameras. I don't need to tell
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: you that if you go to New York City and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: you pick your nose as you're walking down the street,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: you're being watched. You already know that. And I also
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: know that this ain't New York City. This is Barry, Vermont.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: So get your questions and your comments prepared now. This
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: is your heads up. for tomorrow morning. And let's thank
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: our chief before he even comes in here tomorrow for
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: coming in here, for agreeing to do that. I look
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: forward to the conversation. A little bit of nip in
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the air. Not bad. Air conditioner is going to be
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: coming out pretty soon at my house. Haven't yet. They're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: still in there. And we're going to be closing things
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: up here pretty soon. Which is a huge bummer for me.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Because I love the heat. I love the summer. And
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I know that this is bottleneck time. This is the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: time of year. Oh, my God. The Halloween decorations. And
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: we got to get this.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: And the.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Tunbridge World's Fair is coming up. And blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Got to get grandma's baking recipes out. Are we ready
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: for the snow? Who's going to plow our driveway this year?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: When is the first frost going to kill all the tomatoes?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: If you are in a situation where you're not overly
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: thrilled about where you live. Maybe you're renting. Maybe you're
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: couch surfing. Maybe you're thinking about selling what you have,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: whatever that may be, and possibly, possibly upgrading to something bigger. Better, cleaner, newer,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: more spacious, more land, less land, whatever. If you are
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: looking for a new home or even remotely thinking about
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: it and you're worried about timing, well, it's too late now.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: It's already September. I guess we're stuck here for the winter.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I say think again. And obviously, I want to talk
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: about Fecto Homes. I say, yeah, think again. Give them
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: a call. Don't freak out. Don't give up. You want
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: a new single-wide or double-wide or manufactured home? Their inventory
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: is constantly changing. It's constantly growing. There's a reason why
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Fecto Homes is your total housing From financing to land, packages,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: inventory that is priced to move that's right there on
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Route 302. Stop in. You can make an appointment to
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: have a tour of any of the homes over there,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: but you don't need an appointment. You can stop in
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: any time. During business hours, everything's unlocked. And the lights
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: are on. Just walk right in. I know it's kind
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: of weird. It feels like you're walking into somebody's home.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: But you want to get on their website, have a look,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: and then stop in. You want a follow-up question? Walk
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: right into the main office there and chat with someone
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: or shoot them an email. Info at FectoHomes.com. It doesn't
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: hurt to ask. Find out what kind of deals are
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: going on, what kind of incentives exist that you may
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: not be aware of. Fecto homes.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Zach, for the comment about my hat. I don't
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: wear this one often enough. Is it my favorite band?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: You bet your ass. Have a beautiful rest of your day.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I hope it's a positive one. I know I got
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: some catching up to do with you. Had the doctor's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: appointment yesterday for the new shoulder. The other shoulder. Janie,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I thought you already had a shoulder done.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Yes!
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Yes! getting the other one done. All shiny steel, titanium,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell. I don't care. But I know that Dr.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Macy knows what he's doing with new shoulders. Don't care.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Put a little bit of plastic in there. Recycle bottles.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit as long as we can
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: get rid of the arthritis. So that it's easier for
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: me in the bathroom to put on my coat and
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: my shirt without screaming in agony. That's all I care about. So, yeah,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: the new shoulder is going in sometime. I don't know.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Not September. They're saying maybe November at this point. So
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I'll be down for a while. All hopped up on narcotics.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Trying to push through the pain. Such a wimp.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But I'll fill you in on the gory details of that.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Appointment yesterday. I'm joking. Come on. G is going to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: be in here on Friday. And I know that Friday
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: is September 11th. I'm well aware of it. And I
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  Speaker 1: have given some great thought to what to do on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: There's two options. I can either completely devote the airwaves...
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  Speaker 1: to September 11th with all of the pictures and the
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  Speaker 1: video and the audio of everything to do with September 11th,
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  Speaker 1: which is really heavy stuff. Or I can say it's
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  Speaker 1: been 25 years. People know where to see that. They
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  Speaker 1: know where to find that. If they want to hear that,
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  Speaker 1: experience that, relive that. They know where to go. The
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  Speaker 1: other option would be to, of course, talk about it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm going to talk about where I
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  Speaker 1: was on September 11th. I would like to, on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: hear where you were. And then move through that and
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  Speaker 1: beyond that and share a laugh and kick off the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the two options. I ask you what you
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  Speaker 1: would like. And I'll do either one on Friday. Thanks, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you.
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  Speaker 3: And yes.
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  Speaker 1: Just like Becky just said, have a great day. And
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  Speaker 1: I think she literally means that. And great is a
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  Speaker 1: subjective word. But keep your eyes open. Find the good.
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  Speaker 1: Find the positive. Stay well. We'll see you tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Vale. We're talking flock cameras tomorrow. Right here. Where
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  Speaker 1: you are now. Central Vermont's podcast aired out.