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Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor - Ohio Political Shenanigans · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: 829 here on a Friday morning and a happy one
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Speaker 1: to you. Always enjoy talking to Jack Windsor. You can
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Speaker 1: find him online throughout the week at theohiopressnetwork.com. I also
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Speaker 1: note that there on his website, you can get the
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Speaker 1: Ohio Press Network Weekly Wrap-Up. They send you the stories
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Speaker 1: for the week in your inbox. And, of course, the
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Speaker 1: 1803 Report, you can get the latest radio appearances, podcasts,
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Speaker 1: and commentary in your inbox as well, like this segment. Right,
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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor?
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, man. Happy Friday.
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday.
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Speaker 2: Hey, absolutely. You're right, Brian. Honor to be here. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for choosing me. I appreciate it. All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, why don't you introduce to my listening audience, and
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Speaker 1: I got to sadly admit to me as well, the
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Speaker 1: saga going on with Ishmael Mohamed. Not real hip to
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Speaker 1: this Ohio State representative. I haven't necessarily crossed his name.
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Speaker 1: If I did, I don't remember reading about him, but
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Speaker 1: something involving $ 90, 000. Jack Windsor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'll tell you kind of how we saw this.
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Speaker 2: the gap in financing, how the math isn't mathing. There's
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Speaker 2: a house, there's a residency question now. So I'll try
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Speaker 2: to hit these at the high levels. And then why
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Speaker 2: in the world does this matter to Cincinnati listeners? And
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Speaker 2: I'll get to that. But Ishmael Muhammad is a state
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Speaker 2: rep out of Columbus District 3. They call that the
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Speaker 2: Northland area here. And December 2024, his campaign files a report.
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Speaker 2: By the way, he's an officeholder and seeking his third term,
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Speaker 2: I believe. And His December 2024 campaign report shows $ 97, 000
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Speaker 2: on hand. Okay. The next report his campaign files shows
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Speaker 2: $ 3, 408. 11 on hand. So there's a difference there between $ 93, 729. 71.
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Speaker 2: And the filings don't account for that amount. And there's
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Speaker 2: no report in between. And These are his committee's own numbers,
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Speaker 2: by the way, filed with the Secretary of State. Anybody
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Speaker 2: can pull them. And the gap, the 2025 annual report
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Speaker 2: was due at the end of January. It did not
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Speaker 2: get filed until June 23rd of this year. So if
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Speaker 2: my understanding of timelines are correct, that's five months late.
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Speaker 2: And there's a pre-primary report that's due. Candidates are supposed
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Speaker 2: to file that. The idea is that people can see
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Speaker 2: into their finances who's backing this person, right? The pre-primary
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Speaker 2: report got filed that same day. So keep in mind,
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Speaker 2: that's June 23rd. The primary was May 5th. So voters
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Speaker 2: in that district voted with no disclosures at all. And
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Speaker 2: when the reports finally showed up, that's where the red
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Speaker 2: flag goes up. And the pre-primary report does not reconcile.
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Speaker 2: They brought $ 0 forward, Brian. $ 1, 000 they show coming in,
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Speaker 2: $ 2, 500 going out. So somehow they got upside down $ 1, 500.
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Speaker 2: And the report before it closed was at $ 108. 11. And
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Speaker 2: the next one starts at zero. So the numbers don't work.
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Speaker 2: And you go, okay, where did that $ 93, 729 go? Well,
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Speaker 2: we don't know yet. Now, let me tell you how
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Speaker 2: it gets even a little bit more topsy-turvy. October 2025,
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Speaker 2: in the middle of that reporting gap, Muhammad buys a
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Speaker 2: house in Delaware County. Keep in mind, Franklin County and
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Speaker 2: then Delaware County is above it. He buys a house
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Speaker 2: for $ 587, 000, $ 528, 300 mortgage, $ 58, 700 down in cash. I'm surprised
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Speaker 2: it wasn't $ 90, 000. What's that? I'm surprised the down wasn't $ 90, 000, Jack. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you're getting there, right?
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no.
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Speaker 2: You're... And so that's on the conveyance form at Delaware
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Speaker 2: County Auditor's Office. On the form, he answered yes under
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Speaker 2: penalty of perjury to whether the property will be the
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Speaker 2: owner's principal resident by January 1. His district's in Franklin County,
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Speaker 2: but his paperwork says his primary residence is in Delaware County.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, it's a $ 587, 000 home. And here's
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Speaker 2: what I'm not saying. I'm not saying the campaign money
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Speaker 2: bought the house. I can't say it, won't say it.
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Speaker 2: But the records show a sequence of $ 93, 729. 71 unaccounted for,
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Speaker 2: a $ 58, 700 cash payment during that reporting gap, and late
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Speaker 2: filings that don't reconcile. So that's why there is a
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Speaker 2: complaint in front of the Secretary of State. His opponent
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Speaker 2: in this race, Bernadine Kennedy Kent, former lawmaker who was
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Speaker 2: a Democrat, is now a Republican, is running against him,
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Speaker 2: and has filed this complaint after she discovered, wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: there's a significant gap here in reporting. So why does
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Speaker 2: this matter to people in Cincinnati? Well, because he votes
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Speaker 2: on the state budget, on Medicaid, and he's one of
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Speaker 2: 99 people that make decisions on behalf of all Ohioans.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of people have questions. Where's the $ 93, 000?
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Speaker 2: How did you afford a half a million dollar house
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Speaker 2: at a 70 some thousand dollar salary as a lawmaker?
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just a lot that needs to be asked.
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Speaker 2: I've posed those questions, or actually, in the process of
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Speaker 2: posing those questions to Ishmael Muhammad. And I've given him
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Speaker 2: until I believe it's Tuesday at five o'clock to respond.
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Speaker 1: And I expect your expectations are low on him actually
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Speaker 1: responding to you, Jack.
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Speaker 2: Extremely low. I don't know if they could be lower. Actually,
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Speaker 2: believing the Browns are going to the Super Bowl might
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Speaker 2: be a smidge lower than believing that Ishmael Muhammad will
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Speaker 2: respond by Tuesday at five.
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Speaker 1: Well played on that one. But real quickly here, I'm
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Speaker 1: wildly curious and burning to ask this question. I wrote
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Speaker 1: it down. As soon as you said it, he hadn't
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Speaker 1: timely filed his financial disclosures in advance of the primary.
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Speaker 1: Is there a penalty for that, Jack? I mean, does
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Speaker 1: anything befall a candidate who doesn't properly follow the rules?
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Speaker 2: That is a great question, and I'm going to fall
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Speaker 2: on my sword and tell you a couple of things. Well,
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Speaker 2: the direct answer is I don't know. And the reason
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Speaker 2: I don't know is, if you'll remember, there used to
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Speaker 2: be the Ohio Election Commission. That went away recently. And
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Speaker 2: now the auditing of campaign finance stuff is really under
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Speaker 2: the roof of the Ohio Secretary of State's office. They
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Speaker 2: have an investigatory unit. I'm not quite sure if all
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Speaker 2: of the rules that applied with the Ohio Election Commission
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Speaker 2: have fully rolled over to that investigative unit. But I
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Speaker 2: also know in the past, the Secretary of State has
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Speaker 2: tried to work with candidates. That used to be the messaging, right?
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Speaker 2: Like we're not trying to gotcha with everybody. Sometimes it's
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Speaker 2: hard to understand how this works and what needs to
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Speaker 2: be done. So oftentimes they've tried to work with people
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Speaker 2: until they can't. So I'm not quite sure exactly what
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Speaker 2: the letter of the law rule is, but you have
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Speaker 2: timelines and report requirements for a reason, and it is
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Speaker 2: written either into the Ohio Revised Code or it is
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Speaker 2: required by an opinion rendered by the current Secretary of State,
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Speaker 2: and that has authority. Not quite sure where the complaint
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Speaker 2: is in its process, but we're going to be working
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Speaker 2: with the Secretary of State's office to try to figure
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Speaker 2: all those things out.
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Speaker 1: Well, I would say that's pretty damn critical information going
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Speaker 1: into a primary that voters should have had in advance, Jack.
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Speaker 1: And is that why we have deadlines? Well, I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you're on it. Listen, maybe at minimum this will become
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Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for other politicians who try to play
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Speaker 1: fast and loose with deadlines. So get to the bottom
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Speaker 1: of it. I know you will. Theohiopressnetwork.com is where you'll
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Speaker 1: find Jack. And we're going to bring Jack back to
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Speaker 1: talk about, well... If you read it on the Internet,
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Speaker 1: it's true. I know Abraham Lincoln said that. Does that
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Speaker 1: also hold for bot posts that media would rely on
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Speaker 1: to assert as fact? You know the answer to that question.
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Speaker 1: Jack's going to dive into that topic coming up next.
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Speaker 2: Stick around. 55KRC.
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Speaker 1: The Ohio Press Network.com. That's where you'll find Jack Windsor
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Speaker 1: and the reporting that he puts up on his website
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Speaker 1: and all the information there that he brings to our attention.
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Speaker 1: That's a fascinating story you talked about with Ismail Mohamed.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out what's going on with that.
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Speaker 1: Let us pivot over. Tiffin, Ohio. There's a Tiffin, Ohio
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Speaker 1: progressive blog, Jack.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Great site, man. They love me over there.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean, for those of you who don't know, I
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Speaker 2: am everything that all the political operatives would want you
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Speaker 2: to think that I am so that you don't listen
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Speaker 2: to me. and believe a word that comes out of
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Speaker 2: my mouth. Right. That is the end game.
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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as bad press, Jack. You know,
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Speaker 1: people will listen to you merely because the Ohio progressive
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Speaker 1: blog has mentioned your name.
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Speaker 2: You know, I, I say it this way, a little
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Speaker 2: tongue in cheek. When they throw a grenade at a
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Speaker 2: guy telling the truth, fair-minded people go, Hmm, I don't
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Speaker 2: think the guy they threw the grenade at is the problem.
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Speaker 2: I think they have a problem with the truth. Um,
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress. So it's a site called tiffinohio.net.
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Speaker 2: Looks like a local paper in Seneca County, right? If
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Speaker 2: you're unsuspecting. Their terms of service, though, say that they're
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Speaker 2: operated in Illinois, headquartered in Chicago. They're for profit and
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Speaker 2: their donation page tells you it's not tax deductible if
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Speaker 2: you contribute, right? So for profit. And on their homepage,
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Speaker 2: it says they're a pro-democracy newsroom. And you go, well,
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Speaker 2: that sounds good. Oh, with progressive commentary. Okay, interesting. But
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Speaker 2: they're an out-of-state for-profit, really dressed up as Ohio local news.
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Speaker 2: At least the label's honest, if you take the time
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Speaker 2: to read the fine print. So now, why does this matter?
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Speaker 2: A couple of things. I want to talk about their bylines,
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Speaker 2: their pipeline, their index, their founder, and the robocalls, if
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Speaker 2: I have time. But here's what I'll tell you. They
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Speaker 2: use AI. And it appears I have had lived experience
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Speaker 2: with a bot pretending to be a reporter. I've been
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Speaker 2: reached out to by a guy by the name of
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Speaker 2: Dave Miller. His bio says he's a journalist based in
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Speaker 2: Northwest Ohio. I asked for a phone call just to
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Speaker 2: verify that. Wouldn't do it. And then I asked three
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Speaker 2: separate times in writing, Dave, are you a human or
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Speaker 2: are you software? Uh, no answer. And then that's a giveaway. Yeah. Right.
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Speaker 2: And then you look at their, their pipeline. Um, here's
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Speaker 2: how this works. I'm talking about, I'm going to put
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Speaker 2: this under the banner of Democrat operative machine, right? Sure.
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Speaker 2: So it Couple of examples. Number one, we talked about
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Speaker 2: this before, but here's how it works. August 13th, a
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Speaker 2: sub stack piece attacking Vivek Ramaswamy goes out and it's
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Speaker 2: from a progressive blogger. And then it's picked up by
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Speaker 2: tiffinohio.net three separate times. Then it's a press release on
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Speaker 2: Amy Acton's campaign website. Then the Democrat Governors Association puts
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Speaker 2: it into a TV ad pretending it's a legitimate news article,
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Speaker 2: airing it all over Ohio, including Cincinnati. So It goes
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Speaker 2: like this, blog to site to the campaign to your TV.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I've chronicled all of that. It's
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Speaker 2: all saved. And it's not just them writing. Their front
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Speaker 2: page now carries bylines from the Ohio Capital Journal and
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Speaker 2: other states news reporters, states newsroom reporters. So they kind
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Speaker 2: of have this progressive ecosystem in full bloom. But here's
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Speaker 2: what's interesting. I just tried to do a cursory count
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Speaker 2: and quickly I was able to come up with 176
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Speaker 2: stories tagging Vivek Ramaswamy, 118 Gary Click. He's the two-county
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Speaker 2: state rep there. He's got more stories than a sitting U.S. senator,
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Speaker 2: John Husted at 92, 36 stories about Max Miller, 19
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Speaker 2: about Rodney Creech. And by the way, those are all Republicans.
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Speaker 2: And they're not good stories. Oh, and by the way,
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Speaker 2: yours truly has been written about three times because apparently
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Speaker 2: I'm doing something that really has triggered their AI bots.
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Speaker 2: The founder of this site, registered Democrat in Seneca County,
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Speaker 2: Marion Starr reported that in 2020, worked for Sherrod Brown's campaign,
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Speaker 2: the Ohio Democratic Party, Obama's reelection. His company's portfolio carries
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Speaker 2: both the Seneca County Democrat Party site and this tiffinohio.net site.
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Speaker 2: So you have all of that to say you have this,
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Speaker 2: what appears to be a local newsroom is really part
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Speaker 2: of this Democrat operative network of propaganda purveyors that's my
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Speaker 2: opinion i think.
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Speaker 1: That's legitimate but let me just extrapolate from that and
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Speaker 1: i've warned about this all the time and i think
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Speaker 1: maybe some people are rolling their eyes in disbelief or
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Speaker 1: think i'm some kind of loon job the foes we
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Speaker 1: have out in the world like for example the chinese
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Speaker 1: communist party do the same damn thing i mean this
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Speaker 1: is what they are about.
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Speaker 2: And and if there's any doubt i i'm not going
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Speaker 2: to play it today i've still got to compile and
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Speaker 2: edit some things they're doing robocalls now, or at least
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Speaker 2: robocalls are being done in their name. So, um, their
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Speaker 2: AI voices, one called me last night, identified itself as
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Speaker 2: a reporter with tiffinohio.net called itself Jennifer biggest, burliest Jennifer
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Speaker 2: I've ever heard because it was a voice deeper than mine.
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Speaker 1: Um, but it was a box WNBA. Yeah. Oh, there
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Speaker 1: it is.
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Speaker 2: Yes. It's, it's, it's, uh, Ennis, uh, cancer freedom. That's
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Speaker 2: who it was. Uh, So a bot with a male
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Speaker 2: voice and then other calls claiming to be citizens telling
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Speaker 2: me I need to pay for my crimes. Right. So
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Speaker 2: I'm getting these bot calls now. But what I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to do is I'm not going to tell you Tiffin, Ohio,
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Speaker 2: place the calls because the voice claims that it's a reporter.
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Speaker 2: But that that leaves me with two possibilities. Either the
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Speaker 2: outlet is robo calling a reporter who covers them or
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Speaker 2: somebody is impersonating their newsroom. Either way, Brian, that's a story.
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Speaker 2: So I'm reaching out to TiffinOhio.net to ask them. Are
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Speaker 2: you employing these AI bots and do you have a
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Speaker 2: dude named Jennifer or is this somebody impersonating you? And
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Speaker 2: I'll let you know. Now, here's the other part. I
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Speaker 2: need to add this in because it's important. I believe
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Speaker 2: that these folks are coordinating when you look at Sherrod
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Speaker 2: Brown's sharing their information, Amy Acton. So the bigger picture,
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Speaker 2: I put questions out in writing to Acton, to Pepper,
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Speaker 2: to Sherrod Brown and to the outlet itself. And the
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Speaker 2: question is, do you fund, coordinate with or support one
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Speaker 2: another in this 2026 election cycle? None of them have answered, Brian.
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Speaker 2: Not one has denied it.
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Speaker 1: Silence is most notably deafening on that, Jack Windsor. And
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Speaker 1: we all know what that means. It's kind of like
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Speaker 1: Fauci taking the fifth, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to give him until Tuesday at
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Speaker 2: five to answer all of them again. So, you know,
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Speaker 2: here's where it stands. Coverage is running in one direction
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Speaker 2: on that site. AI calls claiming to be their newsroom
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Speaker 2: for Democrat operations that won't answer yes or no. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, people talk about this machine all the time.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to share this with you today because I
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Speaker 2: wanted to show you the parts.
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Speaker 1: This is real and it's happening right here. And it
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Speaker 1: starts in a little place called Tiffin and he's documented it.
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Speaker 1: That's what he does. And I guess you have revealed,
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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, something that I don't ever do, which is
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Speaker 1: you answer phone calls from numbers you don't recognize.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get on that road.
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Speaker 2: It's, como esta? Hola, como esta? And they have no
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Speaker 2: idea what to do. And then they start, you know,
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Speaker 2: AI getting angry at me, and it was kind of fun.
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Speaker 2: But the recordings are great. I'll send you some.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should. I think I would enjoy hearing what
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Speaker 1: you went through. And, again, I will avoid the entire
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Speaker 1: process just by not picking up the phone. One more
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Speaker 1: with Jack Windsor. John Huston and the Data Center's 847
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Speaker 1: and 55KRC talk station.
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Speaker 2: 55KRC. Listen up, team.
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Speaker 1: It is 8.51. It is Friday at 8.51. One more
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Speaker 1: segment here with Jack Windsor from the OhioPressNetwork.com. Pivoting over,
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Speaker 1: it's all the rage these days to, well, demonize artificial
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Speaker 1: intelligence data centers. And I'm of the mind, and I've
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Speaker 1: even mentioned it this morning earlier, as I have quite
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Speaker 1: a few times, Jack. I really don't think this has
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Speaker 1: anything to do with power, water, or noise. I think
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Speaker 1: it has to do with people's overall fear of artificial
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Speaker 1: intelligence generally. You can deal with the power, noise, and
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Speaker 1: water issues frequently. With all the technology we have these days,
15:55
Speaker 1: maybe small modular reactors are the solution. But if a
15:59
Speaker 1: company can generate its own power, alleviating the concerns about
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Speaker 1: increased power costs, and of course, insulation can handle the noise.
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Speaker 1: And if you don't need all the water they're worried about,
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Speaker 1: what's left? It's fear of AI and it's out of
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Speaker 1: the bottle. The genie is we have to deal with it.
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Speaker 1: We need to control it. So what's going on with
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Speaker 1: the Houston race and how's it impacting that race?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, great question. I stumbled upon a poll, an
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Speaker 2: internal poll. Someone shared with me, and I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to leak the source, but there's a poll that had
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Speaker 2: Al-Qaeda's approval at 18%, data centers at 15%. So that's
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Speaker 2: the issue you're dealing with here. You have a terror
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Speaker 2: cell group with higher support than data centers. And so
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Speaker 2: it really is, what do they call it? Radioactive. It's
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Speaker 2: a radioactive political issue. But right now, Sherrod Brown and
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Speaker 2: the Democrats are really trying to frame this up as
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Speaker 2: Republicans want this. Republicans treat businesses well at the expense
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Speaker 2: of citizens, and this is their fault. What's really intriguing
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Speaker 2: to me about that, and we can kind of talk
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Speaker 2: about the specifics of the race if you want. What's
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Speaker 2: intriguing to me about that, Brian, is that Sherrod Brown
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Speaker 2: is actually the veteran I get that John Husted is
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Speaker 2: the senator. I mean, he's been there long enough to
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Speaker 2: find the bathrooms, essentially. And so, you know, he's two
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Speaker 2: years in and Sherrod Brown is acting like he never
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Speaker 2: celebrated data centers being built in Ohio and wasn't part
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Speaker 2: of the, you know, political leadership over the past three decades,
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Speaker 2: two decades, one decade when these things totally prospered. So
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit weird to me. And really, politics
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Speaker 2: is about optics and messaging.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And Right now, the Democrats seem to have the lever there.
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Speaker 1: Well, those who study the history of, well, political candidates
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Speaker 1: can find in revealing quotes and revealing support for something
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Speaker 1: they claim never to have been supported. You got woke one.
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Speaker 1: We don't believe in that stuff anymore. We're here out
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Speaker 1: front telling you that that's the old days. We're just
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Speaker 1: joking around.
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Speaker 2: Nonsense.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a bunch of crap. You're just
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Speaker 1: adjusting your political posture for the moment in time, dealing
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Speaker 1: with the flavor of the moment in terms of constituents' attitudes.
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Speaker 1: But you are on record, are you not?
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Speaker 2: You are. And, you know, Sherrod Brown was celebrating data
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Speaker 2: centers when they started popping up. And right now, you know,
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Speaker 2: we talked about this last week. According to Fox's poll,
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Speaker 2: he has an eight point lead, 51 percent favorability. And
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Speaker 2: Husted is at 43 percent with 53 percent unfavorable. So
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Speaker 2: he's upside down. And the number that matters is 11
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Speaker 2: percent of Republicans say that they're voting for Brown. That
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Speaker 2: is that's the deal.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Brian. And listen, I People know my striping.
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Speaker 2: I don't pretend to be something I'm not. I'm actually
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Speaker 2: not a hardcore conservative. I'm probably more a libertarian. I
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Speaker 2: don't get how you can look at a guy who's
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Speaker 2: done nothing but try to build big government and think
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Speaker 2: that if you're a Republican, that's the guy that you
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Speaker 2: want to go with. I don't understand that thinking.
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Speaker 1: I don't either. Again, I keep going, don't throw away
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Speaker 1: the good for the sake of the perfect. You don't
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Speaker 1: have a perfect candidate literally anywhere, including, of course, Sherrod
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Speaker 1: Brown with all his warts. Where is the messaging? Where
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Speaker 1: is the the campaign ads? Where are rather the campaign ads?
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Speaker 1: Where's the television by on pointing out these obvious problems
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Speaker 1: that the chair Brown has to the extent people would
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Speaker 1: bring them up to the America or to the Ohio voters? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be the tail of
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Speaker 2: the tape. Right. It's going to come down to turnout
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Speaker 2: here in Ohio. I think Vivek's in a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a better position if I'm just being totally candid
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Speaker 2: with you than John Husted. Husted can still win this thing.
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Speaker 2: But it's going to mean that Republicans get out of
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Speaker 2: their chair. And here's the other important part. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, once we get past Labor Day, people kind
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Speaker 2: of start tuning in. And Sherrod Brown, listen, Democrats need this.
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Speaker 2: They need this seat. They're going to spend their I mean,
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Speaker 2: you're seeing the political machine here in Ohio. There's a
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Speaker 2: reason this is going on right now. They're going to
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Speaker 2: throw everything into this race. And so Husted, I think,
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Speaker 2: is being strategic with respect to ads, going to have
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Speaker 2: a smaller budget and everything that he does is going
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Speaker 2: to need to land. And so I think once we
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Speaker 2: get past Labor Day, you're going to see some very strategic,
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Speaker 2: well-placed ads designed to get people out to the polls
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Speaker 2: and designed to remind them who Sherrod Brown is. This
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Speaker 2: is a guy who went to an Ivy League school
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Speaker 2: and majored in Russian studies and has just told you
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Speaker 2: about class warfare for five decades and how the billionaires
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Speaker 2: are bad and how he's going to fight for the
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Speaker 2: working man. And you're like, well, you've been at it
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Speaker 2: 50 years, Sherrod. How much longer do you need? No
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Speaker 2: question about it.
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Speaker 1: Jack Wins, always appreciate having you on the show on
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Speaker 1: a Friday, closing out the week on a positive note,
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Speaker 1: at least information-wise. TheOhioPressNetwork.com, bookmark the site and follow what
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Speaker 1: Jack has to report and the articles he posts on
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Speaker 1: the site. Jack, we'll do this again next Friday. Hope
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Speaker 1: you have a fantastic weekend, a week between now and then.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, have a great weekend, you and Joe. God bless you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Take care, brother. 856, Tech Friday with Dave Hatter.