Synthetic Relationships, FTW

AI for Founders with Ryan Estes · Apr 28, 2026 · 1h 2m · transcript

Rebecca Liao spent her career advising the most powerful people in the world. Clinton's campaign. Biden's transition. The Pentagon's policy halls. And then one day she realized something brutal: she didn't want to give advice anymore. She wanted to build.

Now she's running Saga AI Labs, a company quietly rewiring how brands acquire customers. Forget influencer budgets. Forget CPM. Forget cold email. Rebecca's team is training character agents (think Mario, think the Trivia Crack mascot Willie) to slide into your DMs, hold real conversations, and convert at rates that make traditional UA look…