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Phase Two · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner podcast.
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  Along with my partner, Brian Siegler, I am Curtis Wilson.
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  We are part of the college shuttle network.
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  In this episode, as always is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy
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  Counts down at Counts Family Pharmacy Three O 1 S Main St.,
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  Blacksburg, VA Counts Family Pharmacy your friendly
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  neighborhood pharmacy buddy. What's up, man?
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  Man, I'm tired dude. I'm just going just straight up
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  saying I'm tired right now. You got the grind before the
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  cruise you. Hit the hit before the cruise
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  works and doing doing a training at work this week man like right
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  up to the last second before the cruise getting everything ready
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  for the cruise. Birthday parties, kid, my kids
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  birthday party, neighbors kids birthday party, baseball.
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  I know you got stuff going on too.
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  Yeah, man, it's, it's been a busy week.
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  Been a bit busy last few weeks trying to get some, some stuff
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  checked off at work, trying to get some, you know, busy with
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  the sun's got, you know, sports going on now.
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  We're we're kind of ramping up for, you know, spring ball now.
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  So it's, you know, we, we've had some other side discussions and
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  stuff like that on, on that topic.
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  So I mean, it's been a, it's been a busy time.
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  Excited to finally get back together here on Air.
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  Air it out a little bit. Air it out back, back to the
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  back to the dynamic. Duo yeah, we are.
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  We are missing Tally tonight. He's got a lot going on in on
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  his plate too, so. Baseball kids.
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  Work we, we, we couldn't get a night where all of us could get
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  on. So we, we're like, if we don't
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  pull the trigger now, we're might not, might not get another
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  one in before before the spring game.
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  So 100. Percent.
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  Here we are. Yeah, Shelton on hiatus.
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  Hiatus. Our our buddy coach Robbie
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  Compton heading to Chalk Talk in less than 48 hours.
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  We might have to convince him to come on when we get back.
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  I think so. Josh, what am I sipping on
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  tonight? Tonight I am sipping on Scotch.
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  You know what Scotch it is, right Ron?
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  In the bar downstairs. Is it the blended?
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  No. No, no, it's the Kirkland.
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  It is Costco Scotch, all right. For those who may live in South
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  Carolina or Maryland, go to Costco, get you a bottle, the
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  black Label Kirkland Scotch. My, my neighbor Andrew down the
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  street recommended it years ago. Basically it's a Johnnie Walker
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  Black and it's like 50 bucks for a handle.
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  We drink it. Brian's had it.
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  He knows it's good. Oh yeah.
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  You know we're. Hey, it's it's it's cheap, but
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  it's. Not cheap.
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  It's it's it's. Cheap for what it is.
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  There you go. It's cheap for what it is
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  exactly and by the way, Brian, the vodka we had last summer.
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  Yep, what 12 bucks for a handle and it was legitimately a hyper
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  in yes, we'd love for Scotts go to sponsor our show Josh.
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  I would, I would love that they could come right along with
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  Jeremy, you know? That's right.
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  I mean, you know, give me a free membership and a hot dog anytime
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  I want it. Even though it's only $1.50,
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  I'll, I'll save that buck 50 and we'll.
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  Call them, they could. They could get probably
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  everybody in this program, they gave us all one definitely.
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  We can definitely pull the trigger.
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  Yeah. Is there is there like a like a
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  Costco black card or something that I can get?
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  Exactly. Yeah, but like Brian said, we're
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  doing this tonight because we needed to punch it before we we
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  are not here next week. We likely are going to be able
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  to do a spring show. Literally.
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  We're going to be hanging out on a cruise all week together.
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  We're probably going to be writing the show line by line.
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  And the the GoPro is coming with me, so I might, I might sprinkle
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  in some some some live footage next week next.
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  Time we watch. I don't know if we need that.
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  Man depends, depends on what it's going to be and, and, and
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  what we say and what we do. We'll see if we'll see if it's
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  quality. We'll see if it's, you know, I
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  mean, we're not, we're not necessarily safe for work here.
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  But you know, it's a cruise. So I mean, she can get wild.
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  Yeah, 50 is cheap for a handle, Robbie, but let's break it down.
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  What are we doing tonight? Well, we had not truly talked
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  about the complete makeup of the staff.
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  We had French on just the just a couple weeks ago to go through
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  kind of the new scheme, what we were expecting.
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  But we never had that chance to talk about what does new, new
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  staff look like. We talked about some of the
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  hires here and there, but what are our takes on it?
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  And we wanted to break into that tonight.
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  Then we wanted to break into obviously what came out a little
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  earlier this week with basically the new roster, the new height
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  weight measurements, seeing all that.
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  We've also seen some tapes shout out Kobe, Andy, David put them
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  out there, some takes from what's going on inside practice.
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  Couple things that piqued our interest.
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  But we're going to unload just quite a few things tonight.
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  And Brian, let's let's just start over all with the staff
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  changes. I want to start on defense
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  because that's the first one we did.
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  Everybody knows we've hired Sam Cephas as the defensive
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  coordinator. As of right now, what is it
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  March 25th? March 26th. 2025 year of our
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  Lord, this is how the staff shakes out and stance.
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  Keithus does not have a position pilot.
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  He is defensive coordinator. What we expect to be a walking
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  around defensive coordinator. Now let's go real quick and just
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  hit the rest of the staff and talk about some things.
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  JC Price still here, associate head coach, defensive line
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  coach. Derek Jones, Cheetah still at
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  corners. Pearson Prelude, still the
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  safeties coach. Sean Quinn is now the outside
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  linebackers coach. Xavier ADBX to the Z Call him X,
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  however you refer. He is now the inside linebacker
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  coach with the two new hires. Jerry Wilson, who came up from
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  Georgia Southern, I believe he was Georgia Southern.
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  I have to pull my notes on him real quick.
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  Who played under Sam Cifcas as a defensive lineman down at
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  Wofford is the edges coach. Brian Whitehead, a coach defense
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  with Steve Kiss down at Wofford is the Nichols coach.
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  And obviously if you look at the chart there are a plethora of
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  just defensive assistants laying all around.
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  You know JGW safeties you're looking at the vault Smith
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  cornerbacks, Jensen Johnson junior D line.
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  So a plethora of assistant coaches on here.
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  Brian, I want to ask you this first.
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  When everything finally came down, I think me and you've been
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  speculating, were you shocked that there were no additional
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  movement on the defensive staff? Everybody who was here, with the
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  exception of Chris Marv, is still here.
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  I think so if I'm, if I'm circling a spot on the field
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  that I'm surprised that this person still is coaching that
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  unit given what we know about Cephas, given what we know about
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  what he's bringing to a table from a role that the safeties
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  play in the defense. I was expecting someone
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  different at that spot. And that's not to say that
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  Pearson can't get it done, but I think a combination of, you
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  know, having less prior experience, not being the best
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  unit last year, doing something different with the safety unit
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  this year. I thought that was going to be a
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  prime time to him transition back into more of a not
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  necessarily off the field roll, but a more behind the scenes
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  role in this in the staff. And we didn't see it.
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  And and that's not to say it's something to be, you know, to
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  Josh's point here, something to be concerned about.
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  I'm interested to see, you know, Sam is going to be a walk around
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  DC, but is he going to spend a, a, a healthy majority of that
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  time working with the safeties? And I know he's a guy that he's
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  coached linebackers, he's coached safeties.
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  I mean, he's got the he's got the understanding, I think to,
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  you know, inform those position groups to to a healthy degree.
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  But that's definitely the probably the most interesting
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  position because I think it's the one we expected to see
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  movement in. And when you look at a guy like
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  Jerry Wilson, who is coming in to coach edges, played edge, but
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  also was a primarily a, a safeties coach during his his
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  coaching tenure. I think that's where we saw is
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  he, is he the guy or is he going to be kind of another guy in
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  that room? And, and ultimately that's
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  that's not where it went. It's really interesting because
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  The thing is a lot of people are saying, well, you feel perceived
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  because it's not his staff, but then you start looking around
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  and well, AI don't think he would have let JC Price go.
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  I'm I'm just going to be for real.
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  In my opinion, there are three guys he would not have let go on
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  the staff. JC Price is one of them,
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  Xavier's one of them, and Quinn's one of them.
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  If you had told me Cheetah was let go or Pearson moved to a
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  different role, I would not have been shot.
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  But I kind of sit here back and think about it.
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  We're at a day and age where this can be done.
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  Because let's think about it. We now can do unlimited coaches,
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  right? You have unlimited amount of
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  coaches. So if you're going to be
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  transitioning, why go ahead and RIP everything out when likely
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  what you could do is make it a one to two year transition?
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  Think. Think about that.
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  What's up Will? What's going on, Will?
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  But think about that, Brian. You're trying to make everything
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  smooth. Guys like Bam trying to learn
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  the team if you get everybody in place.
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  And again, X being with the linebackers last year, getting
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  to know the players quicker, getting to know their
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  attributes, getting to know their weaknesses, their
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  strengths. He's not relying on all new
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  eyes, even in the safeties room, right, even the corner room.
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  So I think that's why this was done.
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  I'm going to have a question in a little while concerning
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  recruiting. Let's see is edge not really
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  outside linebacker now? And well, that's the question,
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  Robbie that we're going to probably be asking up to the
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  spring game is like, for example, is there going to be a
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  could there be, Brian, you go back to what we talked about
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  with French and just kind of looking at it yourself, could
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  edges be guys playing the five tech not playing outside that
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  and that's more outside linebacker responsibility if we
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  go to a three man front. I mean, I know we're going to
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  get to it, but the stuff we've we've seen, I'm I'm seeing a
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  whole lot of kind of 24 fronts, 2 down, 4 linebacker.
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  You know, you got you got an edge.
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  It's that that stand up that's really almost like a you play in
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  a lot of ways, like a three man front outside linebacker.
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  It's it's going to be interesting to see, I mean,
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  Prize said. It's going to be a multiple
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  defense. I expect to be a multiple
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  defense. You know, you've got you got a
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  lot of positional, I think fluidity there because you're
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  going to have guys that are playing the edge that are going
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  to you kind of be lining up in different positions depending on
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  what the what the front call is, whether it's more of a, you
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  know, odd front for in those nickel packages.
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  But I think remains to be seen and how that impacts, you know,
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  who's coming off the field more than likely a defensive lineman
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  in that case, But you know, maybe not.
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  We'll, I guess we'll see as as things progress and we start to
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  get some more tape on what. Yeah.
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  What what, what defense is there in alignment in outside of base,
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  which seems to be a a 245 alignment if from everything
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  we've seen so far. Yeah.
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  The other thing, and I don't know if this was a shot, but.
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  I, I I. I think it's a big vote of
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  confidence that Xavier is moved to an inside linebacker role.
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  That is his position. That is the position he played
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  in College in the NFL as the position he's coached.
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  I, I, I think in a lot of people say, well, that could be pride
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  pushing it. I do believe that if Seekest did
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  not believe he could coach position, I think he would have
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  said he needs to say assistant and we would have seen Quinn
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  move over. I, I think that might have been
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  my biggest shock was he is the inside linebacker coach.
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  He is going to be coaching. Woodson is going to be Woodson
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  Keller platter ball and I know I'm missing a couple guys names
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  right now at the top of my head, but he is going to be those
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  primary guys coaches and I like that because it's it's basically
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  two guys and sometimes one if we go to a three high look.
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  Yeah, let me ask this. So we got and I mean, I know I
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  think the even in in the new like meeting rooms, like they've
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  got the positions on there, but now we got these like different
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  position groups, right. So we got Quinn is outside
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  linebacker, X is inside linebacker.
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  Are they running a linebacker media session together?
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  Are they splitting that up? I'm, I'm trying to think about
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  when, when you're having a, a film session with your group,
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  are we looking at, at, at splitting that out into a
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  smaller group? Or are we looking at Quinn and X
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  are going to be in that room pretty much running the
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  linebacker group as a combination.
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  They've got these titles attached to them, but they for
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  for better or worse, are the linebacker and Co linebacker or
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  assistant linebacker coach or whatever the hell you want to
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  call it here. Those two are the are coaching
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  the linebackers and then you know, you've got jury with
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  edges. I'm guessing he's going to be in
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  there with JC, but maybe not. Is he going to be in there with
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  Quinn and XII? Think that's that's where my
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  head goes when I'm looking at this.
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  Like I think it's pretty safe to say, you know, you're going to
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  put Whitehead in there with with Pearson.
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  I think there's a there's a good amount of overlap there in terms
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  of what you're looking at on tape.
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  Obviously, you know, Nichols going to have some, you know,
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  some cornerback responsibilities as well and you know, a lot, a
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  lot of coverage related aspects, but it's, it's really going to
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  be like having an extra safety and and that's really where you
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  know, where where it makes sense for me.
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  But I, I'm interested from a just, you know, schematically
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  how this is going to be handled because I'm not sure exactly
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  what I feel like the roles have been defined well here, but I
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  just don't know because because of how much positional
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  flexibility there is. I, I, I'm not sure exactly how,
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  how they're planning on, you know, dividing up those, those
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  smaller group off the field coaching sessions.
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  Well, yeah, because like you said, edges could be in the loud
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  JC, but or could outside linebacker edges in defensive
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  line be all in the same room together?
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  And if Zach's going to have his group together and then you're
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  going to have Quinn and Jerry Wilson, you know, with their
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  groups together. And is it going to be a mix and
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  match depending on what the the specific install is for that
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  week? Exactly.
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  But then think about this. You go to this.
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  Whatever it is. Well, you go to the three high
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  safety look, and I know you're going to you, you, you correct
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  me on this, but there are times the a certain position, the
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  certain safety that is the closer to the box and you and
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  you seen the alignment. It's almost like they're an
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  outside linebacker, right? They're almost playing that the
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  old star position, the old whip position.
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  Could they be going in the linebacker room doing cross
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  training because of where they're aligned?
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  It's like they're not really doing safety stuff.
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  It's they're doing, it's the combination of doing linebacker
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  and safety responsibility, right?
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  Are they going to go in there? Could we have rooms overlapping
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  a ton? Yeah.
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  And I mean, we had some of that in the system last year, but I
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  think the the lines have been blurred a lot more, not only
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  with the way they're handling the staff, the way that we have
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  recruited, especially in the portal this last year as well.
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  There's a lot of a lot of position fluidity.
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  I know, you know, Coach Prize always preached having
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  positional fluidity and being able to play at multiple
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  positions and, and things of that nature.
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  And I think it, it's not so much that this guy can be this and
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  this. I think we we have a lot of guys
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  that it works in our favor for them to be kind of hybrids
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  because there's certain positions that at least if not
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  historically, certainly recently that we've had trouble
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  recruiting. Yes.
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  And I think this gives us a little bit of an advantage from
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  that standpoint because we can bring in highly rated tweeners
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  all fucking day. Yes, we can.
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  We've struggled at bringing in the true Mike.
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  We, we, we've struggled at bringing in that true nose that
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  can be dominant. Yeah.
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  We've struggled at bringing in a a safety that can really bring
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  the damn hammer. Yeah.
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  While still being able to cover and, and this gives us, you
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  know, some of that flexibility I think to to kind of fit fill in
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  those gaps a little bit. So that that is kind of what got
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  to happen. And I mean, we're going to talk
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  about that in a few minutes, but let's get back to what you were
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  mentioning in a few minutes ago from the alignments videos we've
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  seen. And again, these are short
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  clips. It's not everything.
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  And it's what effectively the coaching staff wants the media
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  and the public to see in your head right now what we're going
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  to see not only spring game, but about six months from now.
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  If I actually take that back five months from now, because
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  it's basically April, are we looking at A24 front?
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  Yeah, I mean it, I think that's going to be your base package is
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  going to be a 24. Where could could you tell in
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  that one clip? I think Colby had it.
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  Where are the defensive lineman? What techniques are they?
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  From what you could see, and I know it was that weird side
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  angle, but what technique were they at?
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  I mean, it looked like a three and probably, probably A1 or
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  A2I, more than likely A2I. I'd have to look at the clip
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  again to confirm. But I don't think a ton is going
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  to change at least in the base alignment from what we were
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  doing last year On the inside. I think, I think everything is
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  going to get interesting is how are those, how are those 22
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  edges are going? How are they going to be
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  deployed? And then when you, when you
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  switch up the the front to an odd front, what does that look
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  like? Curtis, are you talking because
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  you're on mute? I'm running my mouth like crazy
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  over here. What I was going to say is what
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  I was saying is with the interior defensive line, you
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  know, we've always had that one attacking, usually quick twitch.
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  That's the neatest people's last year acting upfield.
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  Do you think we see a difference this year or do you think it's
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  more of we're going to see the same with there may be times
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  where it's not attacking because from what French told us, from
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  what we've seen, is that defensive line is to eat up
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  blockers to stop guys getting to the second level so the
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  linebackers and safeties can pounce.
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  I'm interested to see what it's going to look like, you know,
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  based based on what he was saying in the tape he watched
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  and, and on most of the tape he was watching was odd front as
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  the base. So we're we're kind of in
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  uncharted territory where I don't know if it's going to be
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  kind of a blend of kind of what Seifkis has done in other spots
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  and what JC and others on this line have taught historically
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  and kind of a a blend of that. Or if there's going to be, yeah,
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  very much Seifka's footprint across the whole thing out the
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  gate here. From what Seifkas has said it,
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  it sounds like he's going to be very adaptable not only to the
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  strengths of the roster, but also the strengths of the staff.
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  Yes, he he did say that with the Damon down with the Roanoke
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  time. So the only thing we can do is
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  we can now sit and watch. Obviously, you know, having
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  someone going to these clinics, you know, we'll be definitely
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  picking his brain and then, you know, we're we're right around
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  the corner from the spring game and seeing it in person.
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  So it will be interesting. Right.
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  Let's look to the offensive side of the ball.
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  We're going, we're going. We're going to touch on that
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  here in a little bit, Josh. Yeah, we will be touching on
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  that when it comes to looking at some gains.
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  But let's talk about the offense.
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  Obviously Philip Montgomery offensive coordinator currently
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  as of today March 26th, not titled with a specific specific
• 25:17
  room. Matt Moore obviously offensive
• 25:19
  line fine tale minds the assistant head coach, wide
• 25:22
  receivers. Brooks still the running back.
• 25:25
  Brian Crist is now the Co quarterback coach.
• 25:27
  I think it was the assistant quarterback coach.
• 25:30
  Brent Davis getting moved to tight end.
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  Stu Holt, now officially the special teams coordinator as an
• 25:37
  offensive assistant. Again, boatload of assistants,
• 25:41
  including Montgomery's son Cannon, who's going to be an
• 25:45
  assistant running backs coach. And let's talk about the staff
• 25:53
  for a second. First, I think this is what we
• 25:57
  expected. Probably.
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  Maybe even if Tyler Bowen had stayed.
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  Yeah, I think this this is kind of where things were moving
• 26:08
  regardless of who the ultimate offensive coordinator was going
• 26:11
  to be. I think you've set yourself up
• 26:15
  in a better spot with Montgomery because So I'll say two things
• 26:20
  here. When you look at Chris title,
• 26:25
  he's still Co quarterback coach. So while Phillip Montgomery does
• 26:31
  not have a official position attached to his name, he is the
• 26:37
  de facto quarterback coach here. Because, I mean, otherwise you
• 26:42
  would call Chris the quarterback coach just like they called X
• 26:46
  the inside linebacker coach or, you know what, whatever.
• 26:48
  On the other side of the ball, he would have been given some
• 26:51
  sort of full, full range of that title.
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  Yes. So that's denoting that
• 26:57
  Montgomery is if, if not going to be exclusively in the
• 27:01
  quarterback room, is going to be primarily in the quarterback
• 27:04
  room. Yeah, 100% on that.
• 27:08
  And what what about the Stu Holt move do you like now, huh?
• 27:14
  We I mean I was calling for it all last.
• 27:16
  Year, so we we call it last year, but they did it.
• 27:19
  Yeah, they did. It they did it.
• 27:20
  They did it and now effectively Virginia Tech in some essence
• 27:25
  has a pseudo NFL model. Yeah.
• 27:30
  And I think, you know, when you look at, when you look at
• 27:32
  Montgomery's scheme, Brent Davis at tight end makes a lot of
• 27:38
  sense here because there's not going to be a ton of tight end
• 27:42
  usage in the passing game. It's going to be a lot more
• 27:46
  blocking focused. So Chris, Chris having that
• 27:49
  title, I think is going to be I think a good thing for the tight
• 27:53
  end production standpoint from A at least from a run game
• 27:57
  perspective. And I think that's that's, you
• 28:02
  know, potentially good news for wide receivers as well, because
• 28:04
  there's going to be more opportunities for them to get
• 28:07
  involved in the passing game. All right.
• 28:11
  No, let me flip to that. What do you think this offense
• 28:14
  is going to look like right now? Like is this going to be I?
• 28:20
  I don't think this is full Baylor 2011.
• 28:24
  Let's just go with that. But where do you think it's
• 28:27
  landing? Because and everybody keeps
• 28:29
  screaming Auburn, Auburn, Auburn.
• 28:30
  But as Tally told us, he won't run in his offense at all.
• 28:34
  Yeah. I mean, I think it's going to be
• 28:37
  a version of what we saw at Baylor.
• 28:39
  I think it's going to be there's going to be some tweaks to that.
• 28:43
  I think the thing that stood out to me and I mean it was
• 28:46
  reflected some at least let let let's talk about this.
• 28:49
  When we when we talk about Auburn, I don't think I think
• 28:52
  that the fingerprints of I think the fingerprints were not his on
• 29:05
  the offense from a scheme standpoint.
• 29:08
  But when we look at the pace of play and I think he's talked
• 29:12
  about this, he's like, you know, I know that sometimes you got to
• 29:17
  have a first and a second gear. You can't go, you know, you
• 29:22
  can't be in fourth and 5th the whole game.
• 29:25
  Sometimes you got to have you got to be in first and second.
• 29:27
  You got to throttle it down. You got to be able to understand
• 29:31
  the situation of the game and, and react to that.
• 29:35
  And if you look at the splits on the number of plays at Auburn,
• 29:40
  he's still above, way above the NFL average, but it was his
• 29:45
  lowest, you know, per play average of his career.
• 29:50
  I think that is indicative of probably what we're going to see
• 29:54
  here. Again, you're you're still
• 29:55
  talking about someone else's fingerprints being on the
• 29:58
  offense from a scheme standpoint.
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  And that probably hindered the output.
• 30:02
  But I think from a pace of play standpoint, you can expect
• 30:07
  something similar from Auburn's side of the coin there, but a
• 30:11
  lot more from a schematic standpoint of what we saw at
• 30:16
  Baylor. I got you, got you, got you.
• 30:21
  Let's put this guy up here because it has done a while
• 30:24
  Jason, since SWVA has checked in.
• 30:27
  Hope you guys are doing well down there and I don't know, put
• 30:31
  this up for Robbie. I do.
• 30:33
  You aren't correct in that sense, but could I know God's
• 30:39
  nails? Not your perfect split out wide
• 30:41
  tight end, but he does have a decent set of hands, so maybe
• 30:45
  he's still involved in other aspects.
• 30:48
  Let me ask this, Brian, I think I mentioned this maybe six weeks
• 30:51
  ago, but you've been watching more tape.
• 30:53
  What excites you most about like the concepts of what you, I
• 31:01
  mean, you've, you've you've looked at Baylor, you've looked
• 31:02
  at Tulsa. I'm not sure if you've got Josh
• 31:05
  mentioning, talking about looking at the Birmingham UFL
• 31:08
  stuff. But when you see this and know
• 31:11
  some of the players we have, you know, you got, you know, guys
• 31:13
  like Donovan Green, Aiden Green, you've got Cam Selden coming and
• 31:18
  we'll talk about him a little bit later as well.
• 31:20
  He was mentioned in one of prize pressors pressors this week.
• 31:26
  What excites you most? About Like when you see that and
• 31:29
  you start picking like, man, that, that's this, that's this.
• 31:33
  You start connecting all the dots.
• 31:34
  What excites you most? I mean honestly, you just
• 31:38
  mentioned his name. Cam Selden excites me and I
• 31:40
  think looking at what what he could be in this offense excites
• 31:48
  me. Having that gadget style player
• 31:53
  got in the slot that much like Jay Lane plays it like a running
• 31:57
  back because I mean, Selden was a fucking running back and and
• 32:01
  Lane had that mentality of a running back mentality from the
• 32:04
  slot receiver position. And this is this is a scheme
• 32:08
  that I think is going to get the slot a lot more involved than I
• 32:11
  think we saw last year. When we look back to, to kind of
• 32:15
  2023 compared to 2024, you know, we saw Jay Lane line up outside
• 32:21
  a whole lot more in 2023 and that's where he made his hay.
• 32:26
  And I think some of the, just the scheme and the, and the, and
• 32:32
  the calls kind of limited, you know what we were looking at.
• 32:37
  So I think Lane's production was limited.
• 32:40
  I think in Monty's system, the the slot receiver is going to
• 32:44
  have a big opportunity to eat and do a lot of things in space
• 32:48
  and and have that running back mentality, but still less of
• 32:52
  that stuff that is behind the line of scrimmage, which we saw
• 32:56
  a ton of in Tyler Bowen system. So you're not going to see the
• 32:59
  jet sweeps, you're not going to see those as many screens to the
• 33:02
  slot, but you will see the ball quickly in the slots, hands
• 33:07
  three to five yards, 3 to 8 yards down, down field and let
• 33:11
  him do what he does best. Perfect, Brian.
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  And again, we look more forward to just seeing the tape as we
• 33:18
  start getting it. All right, let's kind of get
• 33:20
  ready to close this segment out and and all y'all listening out
• 33:25
  there putting on the comments in the chat.
• 33:27
  We appreciate that as always. So you tell me because the way
• 33:32
  it looks, we've got an NFL style system, coordinators likely not
• 33:35
  going to recruit Brett Pry and which 10 assistants are you
• 33:40
  putting on the road? And if y'all want to put in the
• 33:42
  chat your 10, go for it. So, Brian, I'll give you the
• 33:45
  floor first. All right, so you got Pry, you
• 33:48
  got JC, you got Cheetah. I think Quinn, obviously, he's
• 33:54
  the road dog man. He's the road dog breaking
• 33:57
  bread, hokey style. He's got it.
• 33:58
  He's got to be on the road and you know that.
• 34:04
  Then it comes down to are you sending Pearson, you send an XI
• 34:09
  think I think I'm sending X on the on the off, on the defensive
• 34:15
  side of the ball, you know, flipping it over to offense,
• 34:18
  obviously Fontelle, Matt Moore, Elijah Brooks.
• 34:26
  And so it kind of comes down to. You you you only name 4 on
• 34:30
  defense Brian you technically get.
• 34:32
  Plus pry plus pry. No, no, no, Pratt, you get.
• 34:36
  It's 11 total. 11 total. 11 total.
• 34:42
  Yeah. Yeah, it makes yeah.
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  Do I want to send Gimme Wilson? OK.
• 34:55
  And other side of the ball, I think that that makes it pretty
• 34:58
  easy. I mean Fontelle, Matt, Elijah,
• 35:02
  Crist and and and Brent. All right, I am on board with
• 35:08
  you completely on the offense. I think Stew Holt will get to
• 35:10
  just hang out, scheme special teams up all week, help out
• 35:16
  Montgomery as the assistant defense.
• 35:19
  I'm one different. I think Prelude's going to stay
• 35:22
  one more year because I think it's going to be the transition
• 35:24
  year. And again, prize always talking
• 35:27
  about let's build the relationship.
• 35:29
  I don't think they'll just pull Pearson off for this class,
• 35:34
  maybe not even next class, but they're going to start working
• 35:38
  in maybe Wilson, maybe Wyatt. I don't know their backgrounds
• 35:43
  well enough. I know the ages.
• 35:45
  Wilson is a significantly younger guy, so that usually
• 35:50
  always transitions to you feel like more relatability to the
• 35:54
  players on the road. But I think Pearson's going to
• 35:58
  stay there this year. And The funny thing is that
• 36:02
  question has not been asked, and I thought someone would have
• 36:05
  asked it at least once. We hired Monty.
• 36:09
  Now, by all means, could Montgomery be a road recruiter?
• 36:12
  Yeah, he could. And they leave Brian, Chris at
• 36:15
  home. But I think the focus this year
• 36:18
  is we've got to get the scheme right.
• 36:20
  We've got to get the players right on campus.
• 36:23
  Why not keep your coordinators off the road during the
• 36:26
  weekdays? Not worrying about the
• 36:28
  recruiting trail, just focusing on that.
• 36:30
  So. And I know that that's been a
• 36:33
  model that a lot of big schools have kind of moved towards is
• 36:37
  kind of moving away from a full time recruiting coordinator and
• 36:41
  more to I'm the scheme guru. I'm the closer because I'm the
• 36:46
  guy that can best illustrate how players will fit into a scheme
• 36:53
  and where they could shine, where you can highlight their
• 36:56
  talents, things of that nature. But that's not necessarily the
• 37:00
  guy that you need in the living room.
• 37:01
  That's a guy that, you know, once you get a guy, he's on
• 37:05
  campus, you know, he, he, you know, you go see him at a camp,
• 37:08
  you know, whatever it may be, you can kind of close the deal
• 37:11
  there. But I'm excited about to just to
• 37:16
  see how. And, and I'm with you, Curtis,
• 37:20
  because I'm, I'm, I'm shocked that the question hadn't been
• 37:23
  asked yet because I feel like that's a, a big piece of the
• 37:26
  puzzle that, you know, we just don't know yet.
• 37:29
  And I mean, and it took a while for the staff to shake out.
• 37:32
  So I don't know if it's something that's going to come
• 37:34
  in due time or, or what. But again, I'm shocked it hasn't
• 37:38
  really been a question that was at the forefront of folks mind
• 37:41
  when they were talking to Pride. Yeah, and again, I think some
• 37:44
  people look at it just so much, like right on top of what are
• 37:48
  they going to do while they're here?
• 37:49
  And it's like, well, there's a bigger game and I don't know,
• 37:52
  high school is not what it was, you know, even five years ago
• 37:55
  with the portal. But you still, even with the
• 37:58
  portal visits, there is still a chance to go in home or go to
• 38:02
  other schools. Effectively, if you're not one
• 38:06
  of the staff members that are been assigned to the road
• 38:09
  recruiting, the only place you can recruit is an on campus in
• 38:11
  Blacksburg. You cannot recruit elsewhere.
• 38:14
  So throw this up here, Robbie, right, kind of in line with us,
• 38:22
  with me, I should say. But it's going to be interesting
• 38:25
  to see how that goes and and do you, do you like to structure
• 38:27
  overall it seems like you do. Yeah, I mean, there, there's,
• 38:32
  there's a little bit of nebulous there between like Quinn and
• 38:38
  Wilson as far as and, and maybe even Whitehead as far as who's
• 38:42
  coaching what like, you know, and, and we've kind of talked
• 38:47
  about that a little bit already tonight.
• 38:49
  But I think from an overall structure standpoint, I think, I
• 38:53
  think it's a good staff. I think they, they tweaked what
• 38:56
  they needed to tweak. I, I, I'm the only thing I'm,
• 38:59
  you know, concerned about, I think is going to be do we have
• 39:04
  the guys on staff now that can get the safeties where they need
• 39:08
  to be in those three high looks? Yep, 100% right.
• 39:14
  So there that is kind of taking a we have been 10,000 feet kind
• 39:18
  of getting more on what this staff looks like for this
• 39:23
  upcoming season. Again, so many things to shake
• 39:26
  out between now and August and that first came down in Atlanta.
• 39:30
  So it is going to be interesting to see.
• 39:32
  So let's keep moving and let's get to the roster updates where
• 39:36
  I mean, it's it's that time of year, right, Brian, height,
• 39:38
  weight, height, weight. Look, what's the New Jersey
• 39:41
  numbers whose body looks different when you see them in
• 39:43
  pictures? So we're going to go through
• 39:46
  that. We're going to do it just a
• 39:46
  little bit different and we're going to kind of go through the
• 39:52
  guys who were here before and we're going to then talk about
• 39:57
  the transfers in general coming in and kind of what they're
• 40:00
  looking like. But Brian, let's talk about the
• 40:02
  guys who were here before. Let's start with the cornerback
• 40:04
  room. As you kind of look through the
• 40:05
  big list there of the guys returning, who jumps off the
• 40:09
  page to you. Seeing Dante Lovett hit that two
• 40:13
  bill Mark definitely had jumped out at me pretty quick.
• 40:18
  Yeah, he was 190 last year. So a full 10 LB gain.
• 40:21
  And what do you think that just says about his body type now and
• 40:26
  what you saw in the field and now him within extra pounds?
• 40:31
  I mean, I think it's identifying, you know, a
• 40:33
  weakness that may he may have had in addressing that.
• 40:36
  I think, you know, he's a guy that I think needed a little bit
• 40:41
  of extra, extra muscle, especially in those, you know,
• 40:45
  press situations. I think he's going to be asked
• 40:48
  to do a little bit more tackling and seek this system versus MARV
• 40:57
  system. So I think there it's a
• 40:59
  combination of those things. Knowing he had to get his body
• 41:01
  right for that, and knowing that just from a pure coverage
• 41:04
  standpoint, yeah, he he could probably use a little bit more
• 41:07
  strength, you know, handling guys up front.
• 41:12
  Yeah, it's true. Then again, he was 190 last
• 41:14
  year. You know who jumped out of me?
• 41:16
  Besides, I love it. Who's that?
• 41:18
  Thomas Williams went from 180 to 190 or 189, but again, 10 lbs
• 41:24
  up, he saw significant action last year out there.
• 41:28
  So I, I like the look of that. Josh Clark, I'd I'd like to see
• 41:35
  him get a little bit more. 185 is not bad.
• 41:39
  But again, as we talked before we join tonight.
• 41:43
  And Brian, how much weight did you lose during the season, give
• 41:47
  or take? Usually about 8 to 10 lbs so.
• 41:53
  That's one reason when you look about where a guy's starting
• 41:56
  from, why is it important? Well, in in your and you're not
• 41:59
  losing just weight, you're losing muscle because of how
• 42:03
  hard you're working, how hard you're playing, how much you're
• 42:06
  practicing. So I wish I would have seen Josh
• 42:10
  Clark up to 190, but that is what it is.
• 42:14
  I will say this, I don't know if this jumped out at me, but it
• 42:17
  was just kind of like Deloach, Deloach give in the words of
• 42:22
  Tally, get that man some food, get him steak, get him some
• 42:26
  chicken, give him give him anything you can get some weight
• 42:31
  on DeMar Jamario Deloach because I mean, he has talent in.
• 42:38
  Yeah. 165 you ain't you ain't playing much.
• 42:41
  Yeah. I mean, I think he's going to
• 42:43
  need, he's going to need to see about another 10 lbs before you
• 42:45
  start working him into the rotation there.
• 42:48
  He needs at least be up there in in in Christian Williams range
• 42:52
  there. I know it probably is it isn't
• 42:55
  much difference with with Williams there at six one versus
• 43:00
  Deloach at 5-10. But as far as frame is
• 43:04
  concerned. But yeah, you'd like to see him
• 43:07
  at least be up there in that one 175 range before you start
• 43:11
  trying to work him in pretty, pretty heavily there.
• 43:14
  And I mean, looking at this, this unit, I mean, we went from
• 43:17
  a very senior and junior laden unit to, you know, a lot, a lot,
• 43:25
  a lot of red shirts, sophomores, freshmen, a couple juniors, you
• 43:32
  know, no, no senior leadership in that room.
• 43:34
  I think that's going to be, that's going to be a big, a big
• 43:38
  role that I think Dante Lovett is going to have to step into as
• 43:42
  being the leader of that unit from a both a experience
• 43:46
  standpoint and just a, a, a seniority standpoint as well.
• 43:50
  Yeah, 100%. So there's the cornerback room.
• 43:53
  I, this is always the fun room. There are two fun rooms to do
• 43:56
  when you're doing 3 technically, because I consider linebacker.
• 44:00
  But let's look at defensive line room.
• 44:02
  Brian, let's let's go down there.
• 44:04
  And you know, this came out a few days ago.
• 44:06
  You looked at it, you digested it, but of the guys on the
• 44:10
  defensive line, whether inside or out, when you started
• 44:14
  looking, where did you go? Whoa, whoa.
• 44:22
  You know, I mean, I went a couple different places.
• 44:29
  Emmett Laws is the one that jumped out to me in the most.
• 44:34
  Thank you. And you know, I, I, I, I feel,
• 44:37
  you know, we've, we've had two position groups.
• 44:39
  I've got 2 Damatha kids in my list.
• 44:42
  I'm, I'm not, I'm not just like, you know, going after all the
• 44:44
  Damatha kids here. But hey, sometimes in the
• 44:49
  brakes. No doubt man, he he came in like
• 44:53
  280 last year. He was too.
• 44:55
  It's more impressive that when he ended high school when he was
• 44:58
  like 260-5270 and he's damn near 295 now.
• 45:04
  A he eats and I think I saw one of the videos from it.
• 45:08
  It ain't all fat. Oh no.
• 45:11
  It ain't all fat. So that was really good to see
• 45:16
  with him. I'm I'm, I'm going to stay
• 45:19
  inside. Christian Evans coming in six to
• 45:24
  290 already as a true freshman, as a he should be, in the words
• 45:28
  of Tally, he should be going to his senior prom and he is
• 45:31
  practicing on a football field at Virginia Tech.
• 45:35
  And he's got a chip. Because if you all remember, we
• 45:39
  kept talking about it, remember he, he basically won the Under
• 45:42
  Armour games up in Maryland, did not get any love from anybody.
• 45:46
  And he comes in as an absolute unit already.
• 45:50
  I I don't know if he'll play this year, but he ain't far from
• 45:54
  it. Let's talk about a couple other
• 45:56
  guys real quick too, Curtis. Let's start with James Jankum.
• 46:03
  So two things came out of this. Everybody hates his number and
• 46:08
  he is firmly in the defensive line group, meaning, you know,
• 46:11
  he's likely going to be playing edge in this system, right.
• 46:14
  So I think we've learned, we've learned those two things from
• 46:20
  from this roster is seeing his number, hating it and
• 46:23
  understanding he's going to be that edge position and not not
• 46:28
  that not some sort of linebacker role that he played at his
• 46:31
  previous stop. So.
• 46:32
  No, no, no, definitely, definitely edge with that.
• 46:36
  Speaking of edges, I I love seeing burgers put on good
• 46:39
  weight. I love seeing Abby put on the
• 46:42
  good weight because they're going to need it this year.
• 46:45
  Ace and Stevens as well. Let's talk about your boy,
• 46:50
  Jasari Priester. So, you know, everybody
• 46:56
  questioned why did they go get this kid from down at Hampton?
• 47:01
  And it was like, because there were rumors, what, 65 to 6-8?
• 47:06
  Basically nobody had him over 300 lbs.
• 47:10
  It was like, oh he's like 27280. And I first thought we heard,
• 47:14
  you know, that's OK he's young, get him in the weight room. 6 to
• 47:20
  high 312 lbs. That's a big boy.
• 47:24
  That is a that that may be maybe maybe height wise to weight
• 47:30
  wise. I'm trying to go back and I'm
• 47:34
  going to look at the mole ones here that might be one of the
• 47:38
  bigger and and y'all out there that can shake my memory.
• 47:41
  That might be one of the biggest.
• 47:50
  He might be one. It's.
• 47:51
  Certainly the tallest to girth ratio defensive lineman we've
• 47:55
  had. Ever.
• 47:58
  Now, And, and it's funny, like you see him at that weight, you
• 48:01
  got a guy like Andrew Hanchuck coming over playing offensive
• 48:03
  line, same height and 30 lbs lighter.
• 48:08
  That's that's, that's to be, that's wild.
• 48:11
  And I mean, it sounds like the guy can move pretty well too.
• 48:15
  I don't know if he's still moving at 312, like he was
• 48:18
  moving at, you know, the two 8290 range that they had him at
• 48:23
  coming over. But yeah, I mean, that's that's
• 48:27
  about 20 lbs heavier than I was expecting him to come in at so.
• 48:32
  So it's, it's kind of wild and I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm trying
• 48:35
  to go to the archives here. And I mean, we'll, we'll take
• 48:38
  the grain of salt that, you know, these are the official
• 48:41
  heights and weights. I'm, I'm sure this is not a
• 48:45
  1000% accurate height and weight.
• 48:49
  Listen, but I mean, this, this is what's being put out there.
• 48:51
  This is what's being put in the program.
• 48:53
  So. All right, you know who it was.
• 48:57
  Who's that? Settle was pretty close to that.
• 48:59
  Settle's like 63, like 3-15 and we know what Tim did.
• 49:05
  Tim was for the three years he was here, he was unbelievable.
• 49:09
  But that is a lot of man. And if we're talking about we
• 49:12
  need A1 or A0, if he can get the right leverage you, you might
• 49:17
  have your nose to go true with the true three man front.
• 49:22
  Let's hit a couple other guys here on the defensive line 1 and
• 49:28
  I don't know if I'm underwhelmed, but Arias Nash
• 49:34
  under 280 lbs. I know he's a three tech.
• 49:37
  I know that's not his game, but did you want to see a little
• 49:42
  more from him or do you feel like you know what that he
• 49:44
  played that at D2. He played against Alabama at
• 49:48
  that with Mercer. He he cut through those guys or
• 49:51
  is or do you feel like he's got his role?
• 49:54
  He's not. He doesn't need to gain weight.
• 49:55
  This is his role. So I, I, I want to see how we're
• 50:00
  deploying him, you know, is, is he going to be a frontline
• 50:07
  player in every formation that we have?
• 50:11
  If he if he's going to be that four eye and kind of move, you
• 50:15
  know, potentially a little bit wider when we go into an odd
• 50:19
  front, then you know, I think that's going to be plenty
• 50:23
  sufficient in most cases. Yeah, there might be a couple a
• 50:28
  couple teams that are, you know, power run focus that might have
• 50:33
  a little something to say about that.
• 50:35
  But for most, most of our roster is is more spread oriented and
• 50:42
  and less smashed mouth. I don't think he's going to have
• 50:46
  a problem playing the four eye at that.
• 50:52
  Got it, got it. All right, Anybody else on the
• 50:56
  defensive line, I mean, you got bail like 61235, but I mean
• 51:00
  we've seen undersized defensive lineman and edge guys before.
• 51:03
  So that's not a like. Yeah, that's still not, that's
• 51:06
  still not super undersized. Obviously John comes probably a
• 51:08
  little bit a little bit heavier there.
• 51:10
  He's at 258 playing it, you know, a little bit taller there.
• 51:14
  But I think those probably are going to be your, your, your two
• 51:18
  primary edge guys with. Stevens Abbey and Burgos.
• 51:25
  Exactly. Those guys are going to be
• 51:26
  mixing in there. I'm sure.
• 51:27
  I'm sure Burgos is going to get kind of that first, you know,
• 51:30
  first run along with with Bell and Jonka as far as like who's
• 51:34
  going to be first guys out there and then the other guys are
• 51:39
  going to going to kind of be fighting for the for the second
• 51:42
  unit. 100% So again, again, I think overall in a good spot,
• 51:48
  defensive line was there is nothing like jumping up that
• 51:51
  scares me. That says, OK, we are
• 51:55
  significantly undersized here. This is going to be a problem
• 51:58
  for power run teams. So we'll roll on linebacker
• 52:02
  room. Linebacker room is always a
• 52:03
  weird one. We're skipping kickers.
• 52:08
  You mean go kickers? Let's see.
• 52:11
  No, I don't. Kallo lost a pound.
• 52:13
  All right. There.
• 52:15
  We go He went from 200 to 199. He had a he had a goal, got more
• 52:20
  toned. That's right, That's right.
• 52:22
  It was cut season. Yeah, linebacker room, obviously
• 52:26
  the way it's looking, Woodson, Keller's probably going to be
• 52:28
  given the jobs. Woodson up a little bit from
• 52:32
  last year, Keller about the same.
• 52:34
  But to me, let's look. So fast, my friend.
• 52:37
  What's that? I like Woodson blocked in there.
• 52:42
  We'll we'll see about Keller. Hey, where is it?
• 52:45
  Hold on, wait a second. There was a good one in the chat
• 52:49
  a little while ago. Got to find it.
• 52:52
  Got to find it. That's a good one, Josh.
• 53:01
  That's a good one. Well, let's be realistic.
• 53:06
  I don't think they're going to be putting Jordan Bay with what?
• 53:08
  What happened? He's obviously, he's obviously
• 53:12
  in the doghouse right now, But Jordan Bass, I mean, dude, he's
• 53:18
  205. I don't think he can play him at
• 53:22
  the linebacker position this year.
• 53:24
  Now, luckily, he's a true junior, so you have a red shirt
• 53:28
  to burn. So that's the question is do do
• 53:32
  you, do you end up throwing a red shirt on him?
• 53:36
  Is a guy like Caleb Spencer going to work in there?
• 53:40
  Yeah. There, there's talk of him
• 53:41
  moving to Mike. There's talk of him, you know,
• 53:44
  kind of playing both of the linebacker positions there.
• 53:47
  It you know, it sounds like he's moving fully away from. *.
• 53:52
  A star safety type role. This is going to very much be a
• 53:57
  linebacker position for him. So I'm curious to see how that
• 54:02
  shakes out. Obviously we know Gabe Williams
• 54:04
  working back from injury. You know, numbers there don't
• 54:09
  shock me too much because he wasn't able to do anything this
• 54:12
  offseason. No, not, no chance to gain.
• 54:16
  So Clatterbaugh coming in at 62243 is, is is nice and what
• 54:21
  you like to see? Well, as long as it ain't fat,
• 54:23
  but you know 243, you can trim 10 lbs of that.
• 54:26
  Nice. Brian, you, you said something
• 54:28
  else. McDonald Brothers man.
• 54:31
  Tough to believe, right? Yeah, we got the McDonnell
• 54:35
  brothers are now red shirt juniors, sorry, red shirt
• 54:38
  seniors. And it seems like like just so
• 54:41
  when we when we started this, this whole this whole shebang,
• 54:45
  you know, they they that was their that was their class, that
• 54:49
  that was their recruiting class coming out.
• 54:51
  So it's kind of it's wild that in in the ride so far, we've,
• 54:58
  you know, we, we've lived through the McDonald cycle and
• 55:02
  we're, we're about to, you know, fully cycle through the McDonald
• 55:05
  twins. So shout out to them, shout out
• 55:08
  to them. Not really seeing the field that
• 55:10
  much last year. I don't know.
• 55:11
  You know, that was a, that was a big shift from from 23 to 24
• 55:15
  with, you know, them kind of being very, very heavy in the
• 55:19
  rotation, you know, especially, you know, looking at which one
• 55:26
  is it. Jayden.
• 55:29
  Jayden's a linebacker. Jayden.
• 55:31
  Yeah. Jayden.
• 55:32
  Jayden had the heavy rotation at linebacker, yeah.
• 55:36
  So it was funny seeing him kind of really fall out of favor in
• 55:42
  that. Rotation, yeah.
• 55:44
  So, you know, linebacker room, some good games.
• 55:48
  I mean, I think over the last few years we had not seen
• 55:50
  anything. Nobody deficient.
• 55:52
  And I mean, I think with Jordan Bass right now with everything
• 55:55
  going on, hold on, you can't say that Josh until he plays depends
• 56:02
  on what he is. And you know what, there were
• 56:06
  times the last two years defense would have been a hell of a lot
• 56:09
  better with a Dax type who would have been getting to the right
• 56:13
  spot, would have prevented a lot of big ass touchdowns.
• 56:17
  Even if it would have been maybe a second late, at least
• 56:21
  something would have happened. I always say that.
• 56:25
  All right, Brian, anything on the long snappers as we move
• 56:29
  down here? No.
• 56:30
  OK, the big one offensive line, I know.
• 56:38
  You know, again, do you take them with a grain of salt?
• 56:42
  Yes. But you know, when they put
• 56:45
  somebody like Brody at 67332, I don't think he's 285 at all.
• 56:52
  And just looking at some pictures, he ain't 285.
• 56:54
  What? So what are the what are the
• 56:55
  gains for Brody? What was he last year?
• 56:57
  Brody Gaines would have been. Got to find the name.
• 57:04
  Got to find the name. Only 5 lbs.
• 57:12
  He was 327 last year. OK, All right.
• 57:15
  So I mean progress. Progress getting bigger, getting
• 57:19
  stronger, hopefully. I like, I like seeing Tomas
• 57:22
  Remat come in at 66317. I, I think if not initially,
• 57:30
  maybe eventually he's going to be, you know, your, your, your,
• 57:35
  your left tackle. Yeah, he could, he could end up
• 57:38
  slide into guard. He played guard a lot at West
• 57:40
  Virginia. He's a swing guy that can play
• 57:43
  both positions. You know, when I when I look at
• 57:48
  the tape, I like Johnny Garrett a whole lot more right tackle
• 57:51
  than I do left tackle. Oh, 100%.
• 57:55
  So if, if that's, if that's what we're operating under, then I'm
• 58:02
  hoping that Remack can pull out a yeah, a, a starting role there
• 58:08
  at left tackle, but. Well, that's that's.
• 58:10
  Good. You know, in in you're looking
• 58:12
  at this group. I still feel better even losing
• 58:17
  2 guys that we thought would would be starters on this.
• 58:21
  I still feel better about with what we got in the portal,
• 58:26
  better about this unit overall than I felt about last.
• 58:29
  Year's unit 100%. We did lose.
• 58:33
  There's not a glaring hole. The The glaring hole is not
• 58:38
  there anymore. We know who the glaring hole is.
• 58:42
  We don't need to say his name. The glaring hole is not there
• 58:45
  anymore. No.
• 58:46
  But the question is can someone fill that glaring hole and not
• 58:50
  become the glaring hole? And I think overall would just
• 58:54
  again with the majority of these guys would not.
• 58:58
  I'm sure we're saying glaring, not glory, glaring coal.
• 59:02
  Who put glory? I said.
• 59:03
  Glare, I said. Glory.
• 59:05
  All right. But I think overall, you just
• 59:08
  look at the the room in general, it's it's built.
• 59:12
  It's you're not sitting out here.
• 59:14
  Again. There were just, I felt like for
• 59:16
  years it was just like, we are so fucking undersized.
• 59:20
  Yeah, this isn't even funny. But I don't feel that way
• 59:23
  anymore. And I think when we come back in
• 59:26
  a couple weeks, Brian, definitely we want to hammer
• 59:30
  what we think the best and the most optimal line is going to
• 59:36
  be. Yeah, Staller, it's huge.
• 59:39
  Now, how quick can he take a step?
• 59:42
  Because physical wise, he is a monster with decent feet, right?
• 59:48
  Brian Carter Staller had decent feet.
• 59:51
  He's not. He's not tripping over himself
• 59:53
  yet, but I. Mean so he looked a lot.
• 59:56
  So thinking about big guys that are coming out, he looked a
• 59:59
  whole lot better than Brody did coming out.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, yeah, and there was a reason he was a little bit
• 1:00:04
  higher rated. All righty, let's go to the
• 1:00:07
  quarterback room because you you like you, you texted me this
• 1:00:11
  like right off the bat. You like look at that, Curtis,
• 1:00:14
  and I'm like pulling it up. What was it, Brian?
• 1:00:16
  What did you text me that day? I.
• 1:00:18
  Mean we got we we got pop over 2 bills.
• 1:00:23
  At 5:11. At 2:00. 11-2 Bills, baby.
• 1:00:28
  You know, if if the concern is about his his frame, he's
• 1:00:33
  starting to fill that out a little bit.
• 1:00:34
  He is doing what we said he needed to do.
• 1:00:39
  He had to do that. He had to fill out.
• 1:00:41
  He could not stick in that 185 to 190 range with how any of
• 1:00:46
  these offenses are going to go in with what he has to do.
• 1:00:50
  And, and you love seeing it because it tells you from my
• 1:00:54
  aspect is he knew it. He knew he needed to get gains.
• 1:00:57
  He needed to get strong in the weight room.
• 1:00:58
  You need to put on those pounds and he did it, which to me says
• 1:01:03
  there's that work ethic there. He wants it.
• 1:01:06
  He effectively is the backup quarterback.
• 1:01:09
  There is no if ands or buts about it.
• 1:01:11
  So we'll see how it goes. We'll see how he looks in
• 1:01:14
  spring. Other than the quarterback room,
• 1:01:19
  I think brand coming in really big, really big.
• 1:01:23
  I I if you get to go to the spring game, see if you can get
• 1:01:26
  12 and 18 near each other and try to snap a picture of it.
• 1:01:29
  Brian between OK, here's base guys being classified as
• 1:01:33
  6211951210 probably be a little difference up in here.
• 1:01:39
  Yeah. And I mean, you know, when when
• 1:01:43
  we talked about it, we were comparing Ryan and Brand.
• 1:01:46
  I mean, we kind of said, OK, well, Ryan is definitely like a
• 1:01:51
  bigger, taller pop coming out, right.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah, like that. That's kind of just looking at
• 1:01:56
  the way they played, looking at everything a little bit more
• 1:01:59
  polished, maybe throwing the ball than than Pop was initially
• 1:02:01
  coming out. But you know, very similar style
• 1:02:06
  and, and overall frame. If not, you know, looking at the
• 1:02:13
  the the weight itself. But yeah, Ajaj is a big dude
• 1:02:18
  coming in 62210. I mean, you can see him very
• 1:02:23
  much in the same mold of of Kyron as far as how if, if, if
• 1:02:27
  he fills out some more being in that 220-5230, you know, Kyron
• 1:02:31
  up at at 2:35 on his own right there.
• 1:02:34
  So you can see him definitely filling out to that level as he
• 1:02:38
  kind of progresses through his career.
• 1:02:40
  Yep, 100 percent, 100%. All right, let's go down to
• 1:02:44
  running backs, a room that is absolutely banged up right now.
• 1:02:47
  We know Overton's out for the spring.
• 1:02:50
  We know the kid from Bowling Green won't be down until
• 1:02:53
  summer. I think actually, I think that's
• 1:02:56
  as silly as it sounds like I'm OK with that because the his
• 1:03:00
  style and how he ran last year. Like I don't think he needs
• 1:03:04
  spring. Just just get him into fall camp
• 1:03:06
  and then turn him loose during the season.
• 1:03:08
  But. Well, the thing that sucks is
• 1:03:11
  not getting him in the I think the the weight program with the
• 1:03:14
  team is the bigger loss than necessarily the spring practice.
• 1:03:19
  True, but I mean, let me let me do a little something here.
• 1:03:22
  Let let me let me pivot back that in a second.
• 1:03:24
  But take a look there, Brian, and just look at the running
• 1:03:29
  backroom. I mean, does anything worry you?
• 1:03:34
  Like it seems like everybody's at a good weight.
• 1:03:37
  You got Coney, Mason, Bennett, Hawkins along with the kid from
• 1:03:42
  Bowling Green coming out. Does anything anything stand out
• 1:03:48
  to you? I wasn't expecting to see
• 1:03:53
  Hawkins at 2:19. Yeah, 10 LB gain from where he
• 1:03:58
  was at D2 last year. Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  So I, I think that's, you know, that bodes well for his
• 1:04:03
  transition to this level, you know, playing at 511, still
• 1:04:10
  being more of a, you know, pass catching threat than I think
• 1:04:13
  we'll see from Terry and Stewart when he comes in.
• 1:04:17
  So I'm excited to see what he's doing.
• 1:04:19
  He's apparently probably going to get a a decent amount of run
• 1:04:22
  in the in the spring I would imagine with everyone banged up.
• 1:04:27
  Well, well, Coney, well, you know, you heard the thing about
• 1:04:29
  Coney being out there grinding through and I'm assuming if he's
• 1:04:33
  practiced what he's practicing, I'm assuming Nick's for Coney,
• 1:04:38
  but he will be important. By the way, Stewart 5 down to 20
• 1:04:43
  last year Bowling Green. So I, I think, I think again, I
• 1:04:48
  think he's fine. I mean, you know, why isn't he
• 1:04:50
  here? I think the, the story is he's
• 1:04:53
  got a class, he's got a complete.
• 1:04:57
  But again, I nothing has jumped out.
• 1:05:01
  And I think we've said that a couple times, right?
• 1:05:03
  And we've got a couple more rooms just to kind of overall
• 1:05:05
  look at. But nothing jumps out as saying,
• 1:05:11
  are we significantly worse than where we were last year.
• 1:05:15
  And in some areas like offensive line, probably better than we
• 1:05:20
  were last year. Linebacker room with the
• 1:05:24
  emergence of Caleb Woodson, probably a little bit better
• 1:05:27
  than we were last year. So.
• 1:05:29
  I mean, looking at offensive line, like we don't have anyone
• 1:05:33
  that I think is as good as chaplain, but I think no, in
• 1:05:37
  aggregate we're a lot better. The the the worst current and
• 1:05:42
  offensive lineman that's going to get playing time is better
• 1:05:45
  than what we had last year. Yep.
• 1:05:47
  Robbie hit up about Mason. I was going to mention that
• 1:05:50
  before we rolled on, but Tyler Mason from down in Mount Airy,
• 1:05:55
  NC, both up 200, came in at 198. So he is down with that kind of
• 1:06:01
  the level. Like OK, you can play a full
• 1:06:03
  season if we need you. Your body is ready for it.
• 1:06:08
  Safety room I think is going to be, we can look at them.
• 1:06:11
  I think literally, Brian, if we look at everybody that's in the
• 1:06:15
  safety room, their heights, weights, it's all fine, fine.
• 1:06:21
  Safety is going to be more interesting to probably talk
• 1:06:23
  about in a couple weeks where we're going to try to throw
• 1:06:28
  darts at where people are going to play.
• 1:06:30
  And then when we actually see the game, because as you look
• 1:06:33
  through that, I mean, you know, shortest guy's 511, lightest
• 1:06:37
  guy's 185 at safeties, heaviest guys two O 5.
• 1:06:46
  And the guy that's 185 is kind of a guy that played a lot of
• 1:06:50
  nickel in corner. So makes sense, right?
• 1:06:53
  Yeah. Again, I think that room, once
• 1:06:57
  we see probably Brian, as you're sitting live at Lane, you know,
• 1:07:01
  writing your numbers out, figuring out where Koval is,
• 1:07:03
  where's Flowers is, where's Ellis, where's Cash, that's kind
• 1:07:08
  of going to be the interesting piece because of those four guys
• 1:07:12
  that came in. Flowers does have one year of
• 1:07:15
  eligibility left. Is that going to go as a, is
• 1:07:20
  that going to be a deterrent factor of who plays where?
• 1:07:24
  We don't know. We feel very confident about
• 1:07:26
  Reddish. We'll talk about that in a few
• 1:07:28
  weeks. Tight end room?
• 1:07:35
  Yeah, Yep, they're there. Everybody stayed healthy.
• 1:07:41
  Everybody stayed healthy. You know, we're not really
• 1:07:45
  adding anyone to the room in theory.
• 1:07:50
  So this room kind of is mostly stagnant.
• 1:07:56
  You know, I think you feel really good about Benji.
• 1:07:59
  You feel pretty good about HSG and Zeke.
• 1:08:05
  I think everybody else is a big question mark and I don't think
• 1:08:09
  they need to be anything more than that this year.
• 1:08:11
  I think that's going to be the guys that you're leaning on in
• 1:08:15
  this offense this year. 100% All right, last position group here
• 1:08:18
  before we wrap up the night. That's the wide receiver group.
• 1:08:22
  And and let's just you talked about what he can be used in
• 1:08:26
  man, if he ain't built like Devo Samuel was when he was down in
• 1:08:30
  South Carolina. Give me some.
• 1:08:31
  Give me some stats on Cam Selden.
• 1:08:34
  Brian, All right, Cam Selden. Let's find Cam Selden.
• 1:08:40
  He is 6/1, 2:11, 61211. Again, we talked about the
• 1:08:49
  running back bills. We just kind of came from that
• 1:08:51
  area and you and you hear that and you're like, all right,
• 1:08:53
  yeah. That that that's a running back
• 1:08:56
  and that's a wide receiver that's going to be playing like
• 1:08:58
  a running back. And I'm interested to see see
• 1:09:05
  him in action because he's the guy that I think excited me the
• 1:09:07
  most. Even though he's a guy that I
• 1:09:09
  think there's still a lot of question marks on because of the
• 1:09:11
  position change that you know, it's it's going to it's going to
• 1:09:17
  be it's going to be interesting to see how we deploy him.
• 1:09:21
  Is he going to be a guy that's going to do some stuff out of
• 1:09:25
  the backfield occasionally? Probably.
• 1:09:26
  But I think he's really going to be that guy that you want to get
• 1:09:30
  the ball in their hands in that you know that like I said
• 1:09:33
  earlier, that 3 to 8 yard range and just let them be a be a guy
• 1:09:37
  in space. Well, first of all, Devo Samuel
• 1:09:40
  senior year 6 foot 210. That's, and if you look at him
• 1:09:45
  it the, the build is there. I think Brian, what excites me
• 1:09:49
  about Selden so much again and looking at some of Montgomery's
• 1:09:53
  game film, it's those 3 yard drags, it's those flat routes.
• 1:09:59
  Because his build you're if, if you were going to say, you know,
• 1:10:07
  we're going to put a corner back on him, it will have to be your
• 1:10:09
  best tackling corner. It will have to be your most
• 1:10:12
  physical corner, but there are going to be some corners, in my
• 1:10:16
  opinion, that are not going to tackle him.
• 1:10:19
  I just believe that they're not going to be able to tackle him.
• 1:10:22
  And then it becomes there's your nightmare mismatch.
• 1:10:24
  You know what, we're going to throw the safety on.
• 1:10:26
  We're going to put a linebacker on.
• 1:10:27
  And OK, we know he was where he came out in high school.
• 1:10:33
  He was an athlete. He was an elite athlete.
• 1:10:36
  It's why he got so highly recruited.
• 1:10:38
  It's why he got there because he does have that explosion.
• 1:10:42
  It just it just pops. And if they deploy him right,
• 1:10:46
  especially having Donovan Green, you know, kind of that elder
• 1:10:50
  statesman who is kind of the route technician.
• 1:10:53
  And then the way Aiden Green is explained with his explosion.
• 1:10:55
  If not, not even counting some of the other guys on here like
• 1:10:59
  Chan's, you know, Brooke Keelan. Excuse me?
• 1:11:03
  Don't get in trouble with anybody.
• 1:11:04
  Keelan Adams. Yeah, I ain't crazy.
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  There is a chance I meet his Mama one day.
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  I don't want to get popped up. That's right.
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  That's right. You got, you got to keep it,
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  right. Yeah.
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  And and it's going to be I'm I'm excited to see what how Keelan
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  and Chan's work into this rotation.
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  I mean, obviously know Aiden is kind of the established guy
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  here. From a just experience with this
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  group perspective, we know Donovan Green is bringing
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  probably the most overall experience to the room, you
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  know, new, new due to this team. But we we have kind of the law
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  firm of Green and green out there.
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  Wide receiver. I'm going to be I'm I'm going to
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  have to make a poster or something like that at some
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  point when we when we go to a game this year for that one.
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  I'm I'm interested. I I think that this wide
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  receiver room, I think I think this is we're we're kind of
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  looking at the same thing that we were talking about in the
• 1:12:06
  offensive line room. You know, once everybody gets
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  healthy is that, you know, in aggregate, I think this wide
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  receiver room could be better than the group we had last year,
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  even if you don't have the highest of highs that you had
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  with the Jalen Lane. Yeah, so.
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  It's a it's interesting. I think overall from that game
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  perspective, nothing stands out. You don't feel like we're
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  undersized anywhere. You don't feel like we're going
• 1:12:41
  to give up physicality anywhere. So not only shout out to what's
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  going on with Ferg, but also with the prior staff getting us
• 1:12:52
  back on track. So again, these Galt who went to
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  Marshall, he may not have had everything locked down, but as
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  far as getting guys to optimal weights, getting them to optimal
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  strength, I think he got us there.
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  I think it's the other piece, the.
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  Conditioning piece was where things kind of fell off the.
• 1:13:14
  Exactly, exactly. And and to me, you think about
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  Jared Ferguson playing fullback. He was the prototypical fullback
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  build and he had the endurance. So yeah, Brian, let's hit these
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  real quick. Basketball seasons effectively
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  over for the Hokies with the women losing earlier this week.
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  Men obviously didn't even make a tournament portal going crazy.
• 1:13:40
  And then I didn't read all going.
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  Legit crazy like three times the entries compared to last year.
• 1:13:45
  Sane insanity and obviously the Hokies on a better footing or
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  NIL this year. The Whit Babcock statement that
• 1:13:53
  I read from Andy Bitter just made me go.
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  Which one? Which one?
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  The the one about we didn't really anticipate the basketball
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  market to be like that. What did you think it was going
• 1:14:04
  to be? Everybody's going to spend
• 1:14:07
  $100,000 a player. They took took a shot at the at
• 1:14:10
  the folks on on Twitter as well. Like are you get your news from
• 1:14:13
  Twitter If you think that we stole money from basketball to
• 1:14:17
  give it to football, I, I heard that places that weren't
• 1:14:23
  Twitter, I'll just say that much and we'll move along.
• 1:14:28
  I don't think we stole. I think funds were allocated
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  differently. Because you misread the room.
• 1:14:35
  Yeah, look at Jim. Jim, we had heard from you all
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  night. And Jim, it's a banger at the
• 1:14:40
  end. 70% fire. So I mean it sounds like of of
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  the due allocation 75% is going to football.
• 1:14:48
  Yep. So it's it's basically mirroring
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  the percentages that the settlement were in terms of the
• 1:14:54
  yearly allocation from the the general fund.
• 1:14:59
  So. Yeah, 75% to football, was it.
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  15% to men's basketball is it? Am I right?
• 1:15:07
  That sounds right. I'd I'd have to pull it up
• 1:15:10
  again. I was looking at the bidder
• 1:15:12
  tweet earlier. Well, that, that's, that's over
• 1:15:15
  3 million just for basketball, not counting probably some other
• 1:15:18
  things, not counting house settlement stuff.
• 1:15:21
  I'm assuming basketball's probably going to be what, five
• 1:15:23
  and a half, 6 1/2 donate. I'm and I'm talking guys who are
• 1:15:27
  going to be giving money towards NIL specifically for foot for
• 1:15:30
  basketball. Some a direct, yeah.
• 1:15:32
  Direct, yeah. Direct and you should be able to
• 1:15:35
  put a decent Ross together and, and if some are going to go
• 1:15:37
  crazy, absolutely some are going to go absolutely crazy and, and
• 1:15:44
  that is what it is. But with $6 million to fund a
• 1:15:48
  basketball team of 12, you should be able to get a couple
• 1:15:53
  really good players. Just don't go after guys that
• 1:15:57
  you know, could potentially be fully suspended for, you know.
• 1:16:02
  Betting on games that's better vetting, please.
• 1:16:06
  Better betting, please. I think we've.
• 1:16:08
  Had what, three years in a row where we've had a player, a
• 1:16:12
  guard, a, a, a probably starting guard that played minimal or
• 1:16:20
  none for this basketball team, that's three years in a row.
• 1:16:26
  And I mean, you can say what you want to say is that the
• 1:16:29
  difference between a 13 and 19 team and a 19 and 13 team?
• 1:16:33
  Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. But you you never know.
• 1:16:38
  One last piece before we close it up.
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  Wrestling finishes 11th at the nationals.
• 1:16:44
  I only saw the I I never saw they never replayed it and I
• 1:16:48
  never a chance to see it. But from everyone that I've seen
• 1:16:54
  Twitter speaking with a couple other people, Caleb Pinson got
• 1:16:57
  completely robbed because his takedown was a takedown.
• 1:17:01
  And even though the brick was thrown, it should have never
• 1:17:04
  been overturned to begin with. It should have been 31 and he
• 1:17:08
  should be a two time national champion.
• 1:17:11
  So but wrestling was younger this year.
• 1:17:16
  You know, Caleb's back next year, Eddie Ventriska's back
• 1:17:19
  next year, Mcdougal's back next year.
• 1:17:21
  He got like a Jimmy Mullen who's going to be back next year.
• 1:17:25
  I'll be interested to see wrestling next year because
• 1:17:29
  where they finished this year, it was supposed to be a down
• 1:17:32
  year. It was, you know, you don't use
• 1:17:35
  it. You don't lose a guy like
• 1:17:36
  Michael Lewis and a few of the other guys from the last few
• 1:17:39
  years and have a lot of young guys come on.
• 1:17:41
  But I, I, I think the potential's there.
• 1:17:46
  And I'm not saying national championship, I'm not crazy, but
• 1:17:48
  I think to get individual national championships is the
• 1:17:51
  possibility is there. And I think to get back in the
• 1:17:53
  top five is definitely a possibility.
• 1:17:57
  I mean, I could go through the points, but I, I do think, and
• 1:18:01
  if anybody knows the exact way, I think if Caleb had won, we
• 1:18:03
  probably would have been like 7th, not 11th in the final
• 1:18:07
  standings just because of the difference between that for the
• 1:18:11
  1st and 2nd. Quote me if I'm wrong, but
• 1:18:15
  anything else you need to unload man before we hop off here.
• 1:18:18
  No, I'm glad we got that, that, that bitter stuff in there.
• 1:18:21
  Well, on, on, on wit because that, that's something that I
• 1:18:27
  saw pop through just before we, we, we punched it and we hadn't
• 1:18:30
  really talked about really diving into that, but I'm glad
• 1:18:33
  we got there because. I'm glad we got a shot in just.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:18:38
  Because I haven't had a chance to read it all.
• 1:18:39
  I've been busy as hell this afternoon.
• 1:18:42
  I know you. You were sitting at a tennis
• 1:18:44
  match for 3 1/2 hours. He did 3 1/2 hours.
• 1:18:48
  He did. Well he did.
• 1:18:50
  It was about three. It was about 3 hours.
• 1:18:52
  Yeah, just sitting there, sitting there.
• 1:18:54
  So it's all good supporting our kids.
• 1:18:57
  All right. Anything breaking on the
• 1:19:00
  Twittersphere? Not much, man.
• 1:19:04
  I think, I think we're we're good and there's a lot of a lot
• 1:19:07
  of discussion around the 70% below Clemson thing.
• 1:19:12
  I know, I know, Jim threw that that in there that I think that
• 1:19:15
  was the thing that is stood out to folks the most is that we
• 1:19:19
  were that fucking far behind Clemson in NIL for basketball.
• 1:19:25
  Just shows you this, this is what I'll say.
• 1:19:30
  And if you can agree or disagree, there are certain
• 1:19:35
  people that are in athletic departments in this era, they're
• 1:19:40
  never going to be a DS. And then there are certain
• 1:19:43
  people that are. And you at Virginia Tech, you've
• 1:19:47
  got to find the person who understands that concept better
• 1:19:50
  than anybody when the next hire is made, because in my opinion,
• 1:19:54
  the next hire is probably going to be made within the next 24
• 1:19:58
  months. And I think, I think it's two
• 1:20:01
  fronts too, because I think you got to you got to have somebody
• 1:20:04
  that is not only well attuned with what NIL is, but I think
• 1:20:09
  you need to have somebody that's a little bit more that does a
• 1:20:13
  better job with engaging the alumni and the donor base.
• 1:20:20
  Better than Wit in the sports that count, I think.
• 1:20:26
  I think Wit does a pretty good job in in some areas, but I
• 1:20:29
  think his personality doesn't always inspire confidence and I
• 1:20:38
  think that can trickle down into other areas.
• 1:20:42
  Not just OK fans. Fans don't like him because he's
• 1:20:45
  bristly or he, he, he doesn't not the most personal person
• 1:20:50
  when you, when you have a, an interview style with him.
• 1:20:54
  I think he's a lot. He seems to be more relaxed in a
• 1:20:57
  conversational tone, but he doesn't do well in kind of a, if
• 1:21:03
  the format is, is, is more formal.
• 1:21:05
  He, his personality gets lost somewhere in the shuffle there.
• 1:21:08
  And I, I think, you know, that that can turn some folks off a
• 1:21:13
  lot of times too. So, yeah, there's, there's a lot
• 1:21:16
  of things that I think we could point to and say, you know,
• 1:21:20
  some, some of this was already endemic here at Virginia Tech
• 1:21:24
  before that. And then some of that is Wit has
• 1:21:27
  his fingers all over it. Yep, and you can't do that.
• 1:21:32
  You cannot do that. So with that being said, let's
• 1:21:36
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