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Keeping you up to date with the latest on Savannah Gunthrie's Mom · Johnjay & Rich On Demand

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  Speaker 1: This is one of the biggest news stories in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and it's in our hometown of Tucson, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a crazy story.
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  Speaker 2: But here's a little clip of the latest.
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  Speaker 3: I think we received your message and we understand.
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  Speaker 2: We beg you now to return our mother to us
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  Speaker 2: so that.
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  Speaker 1: We can celebrate with her. This is the only way
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  Speaker 1: we will have peace.
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  Speaker 4: This is very valuable to us, and.
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  Speaker 2: We will pay all right.
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  Speaker 1: That's a Savannah Guthrie and she's talking about her mom
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  Speaker 1: who was kidnapped. And I met Tracy on social media
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram, and she's a former CIA officer, FBI special
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  Speaker 1: agent and I've been watching all her posts and they
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  Speaker 1: are so interesting. Good morning, Tracy, you're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, is there anything new in this case that we
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  Speaker 1: since you know it's seven p fifty two in the
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  Speaker 1: morning here, is there anything new that we haven't got into.
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  Speaker 5: Or that you think not that I know of, other
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  Speaker 5: than obviously searching the septic tank behind Nancy guthrie To
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  Speaker 5: home and then that search after the video is made
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  Speaker 5: of Annie Guthrie's home. But as of today, there's nothing
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  Speaker 5: new this morning.
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  Speaker 4: When you listen to what she's saying. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 4: get a sense of it. I know you can't speculate,
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  Speaker 4: but tell me what you're hearing. When she says, to
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  Speaker 4: celebrate our mom, we will pay, I'm wondering do they
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  Speaker 4: think she's alive or are they sing we'll pay just
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  Speaker 4: to get the body back or the resolution of whatever's
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  Speaker 4: happening here.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously I can't speculate as to whether she's
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  Speaker 5: alive or if she has passed, but I think that
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  Speaker 5: they have clearly resolved their selves to resolving this right
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  Speaker 5: that they will do anything to resolve it. So whether
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  Speaker 5: it is getting their mom back alive, which is what
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  Speaker 5: we all want for them, or whether it is getting
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  Speaker 5: her body back so that they can, you know, respect
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  Speaker 5: and love on that, I think either one is at play.
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  Speaker 5: We don't know whether or not they have received proof
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  Speaker 5: of life, and ultimately the decision to pay lies with
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  Speaker 5: the family, not with the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: When you see that last video, do you think in
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  Speaker 1: your expertise that there was some hidden communication?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I think that, first of all, Savannah
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  Speaker 5: Guthrie is reading, you know from it looks like a
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  Speaker 5: paper that's on the floor but in every video that
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  Speaker 5: they have made, they have read with a paper. There's
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  Speaker 5: no question in my mind that the FBI is helping them.
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  Speaker 5: I guess craft these videos and carefully word them, and
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  Speaker 5: I think they are wording them to address whatever is
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  Speaker 5: being alluded to in these ransom notes. So using the
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  Speaker 5: phrase this is valuable to us, right, That's not something
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  Speaker 5: that a lot of people readily use in the course
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  Speaker 5: of their conversation, you know, so that you know, we
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  Speaker 5: can celebrate with her. I don't know that that's something
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  Speaker 5: calmon that people use. I think it is all very
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  Speaker 5: contrived by the FBI. That's that's what they do, and
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  Speaker 5: that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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  Speaker 4: It seems weird to me, like of it doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: add up. In fact, I was hearing this morning that
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  Speaker 4: kidnapping victims like zero point zero zero zero eight percent
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  Speaker 4: of the time they're over eighty years old. So that
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  Speaker 4: strikes me as odd that you don't normally kid people
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  Speaker 4: for kidnap people for ransom. And then I feel like
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  Speaker 4: the details of them, like searching the septic system doesn't
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  Speaker 4: add up for me either. What could they be looking for?
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  Speaker 5: Well, so can I adjust the second part? First, that's okay.
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  Speaker 5: The second part, in my opinion, every inch of her home,
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  Speaker 5: whether they had tips or not, should have been searched
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  Speaker 5: immediately prior. So the fact that a subject tank, in
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  Speaker 5: my opinion, is being searched five six days later is
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  Speaker 5: not good. I believe all of that should have been
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  Speaker 5: done regardless, because if you don't have the person back,
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  Speaker 5: you need to operate under the auspices that a clue
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  Speaker 5: could be at the home. And so I am confused
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  Speaker 5: to why they went back so late to search that.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that is sort of part of the
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  Speaker 5: issue is that the scene was compromised early on right,
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  Speaker 5: and the sheriff he states that he shouldn't have done that,
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  Speaker 5: but I think some of those things definitely compromise the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: You see, the sheriff was in the news because he
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  Speaker 2: went to the U A basketball game.
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what I feel like, not the best look,
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  Speaker 2: not the best look. But also I mean he could
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  Speaker 2: he could have. He's got to have some.
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  Speaker 1: Free times, he's got people working on it. And plus
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  Speaker 1: you their number one, you a So it's a great
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  Speaker 1: was a great game.
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  Speaker 4: Listen my husband, Oh hey, you didn't answer the first
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  Speaker 4: part of My question was that it's it's unusual for
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  Speaker 4: somebody of that age. I apologize that's okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's very unusual. Typically when we see kidnappings, and
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  Speaker 5: I hate to say this because it's it's awful, they
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  Speaker 5: are to right or teens, and a lot of that
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  Speaker 5: is it's familial right custody issues, those kinds of things.
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  Speaker 5: Children running away. Typically elderly we do not see its.
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  Speaker 5: Elderly do disappear. It is because of mental incapacitation, those
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  Speaker 5: kinds of things. That's much more normal. I guess part
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  Speaker 5: of the problem with elderly is it becomes a burden
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  Speaker 5: almost to the kidnapper, right, keeping them alive, giving them medication,
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  Speaker 5: those kinds of things. So that's another reason why it's
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  Speaker 5: also quite rare.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I saw a headline, this says the FBI. What's
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  Speaker 2: the headline exactly? Cow.
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  Speaker 3: It was a former FBI top official that says he
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  Speaker 3: doubts whether Nancy Guthrie's disappearance was actually a kidnapping. He
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  Speaker 3: said he was really skeptical of it. It was a
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  Speaker 3: former FBI Assistant director Chris Swecker, said.
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  Speaker 5: That, yes, I am not someone who's going to make
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  Speaker 5: speculations on that at all. I won't. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: very unfair to the family to be doing something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. So when you're you were with
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  Speaker 2: the FBI for how long?
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  Speaker 5: A couple of years and.
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  Speaker 1: Then also the CIA. Yes, so do you have jackets
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  Speaker 1: for both? Like on the back of the CIA and FBI.
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  Speaker 5: So it's c I A. No, we don't wear jackets.
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  Speaker 5: That's not how it works or typically undercover and that yes,
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  Speaker 5: So that would be a huge problem where.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, would I be in the CIA if I
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  Speaker 4: was wearing a CIA?
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  Speaker 5: Correct?
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  Speaker 2: Were you undercover on any cases that we would know?
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  Speaker 5: I was not undercover, but I worked the tie into
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  Speaker 5: mat case, which was the very first economic fpionage case
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  Speaker 5: ever tried here in the US.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, well, your Instagram is I mean, the stuff you
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  Speaker 1: post on there is incredible?
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  Speaker 2: Can we give it out on the air? Do you
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  Speaker 2: want to keep that.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it's the Unexpected Spy.
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  Speaker 2: Unexpected Spies or Instagram? And you have a book too, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: We will also called the Unexpected Spy. I forget about that's.
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  Speaker 4: How often do your friends ask you to check out
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  Speaker 4: dates before they go on them?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that I've ever received that before. Mostly
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  Speaker 5: it would be about teachers, you know, our children's teachers, coaches,
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  Speaker 5: those kinds of things.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tracy, thank you for jumping on here with us,
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  Speaker 2: really really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. There you go, the unexpected spy