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Fictitious Bands Wildcard: Slither (2006) · Fumbling Through Film

• 0:00
  Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe, here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners, are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.
• 0:11
  Yeah, I don't, I don't like to be too warm either. I don't, I don't cuddle with my wife because I get too warm.
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  Terry.
• 0:16
  It'll be fine. Maybe one day one of us will get infected with the worm and we can just all assimilate.
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  Derek.
• 0:21
  Oh, it wants to be part of this where it could take any form and still get it all with Elizabeth Banks.
• 0:26
  And the power twins, Zapp and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort dedicated to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time.
• 0:35
  This week we watch the 2006 alien monster movie Slither.
• 0:38
  This is Fumbling Through Film.
• 0:42
  Where is the Mr. Pibb? I told your secretary to pack Mr. Pibb. It's the only Coke I like. Goddamn Brenda's exploding like a water balloon. The worm's driving my friends around like they're goddamn skin cars. People are spitting acid at me, turning into cottage cheese. And now there's no fucking goddamn Mr. Pibb! Jesus Christ, Jack, let me get right on it.
• 1:10
  Hello and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, genre-defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film, the only show that I guarantee dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies. However, however, these aren't just any movies. Could be.
• 1:31
  No,
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  they are.
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  No, I'm preemptively just saying no.
• 1:36
  No, you can't preemptively say no because I haven't said anything. What if I agreed this week? These aren't just any movies. They're the ones we've either missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting, which goddamn it is any movie.
• 1:50
  Well, I think we'll talk about it.
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  Oh God. My name is Derek and I am a fumbler. Uh, pessimist number one joining me here in the Fumble Dome is the Prime Minister of Fumbling and Film, Keith.
• 2:05
  I said I was optimistic.
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  Oh, I thought you said you were pessimistic.
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  No, I'm optimistic that these are any film I'm—
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  That optimist that's joining me here in the Fumble Dome is the one and only Prime Minister of Fumbling and Film, Keith.
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  Yeah, I'm a pessimist.
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  Uh, you can't do that
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  to me. Well,
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  gotta rewind again.
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  This son of a bitch sitting here with me in the Fumble Dome is the only Prime Minister fumbling at film. Keith.
• 2:33
  Hey, what's up, KG? Fumbler extraordinaire. And, um, I like Dr Pepper over Mr Pibb.
• 2:41
  Oh, okay.
• 2:43
  Hot take.
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  Pretty hot take.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, that other Pepper in the room.
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  Yeah,
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  he's a Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry.
• 2:55
  That's right. They call me the, uh, the Pepper of Men.
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  23 flavors.
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  The Pepper of Men.
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  You know, so I've always got that spicy take.
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  Spicy take. Not sweet pepper, he's a hot pepper.
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  Oh no. Well,
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  yeah, and a hot stepper.
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  And a hot stepper. Oh, true.
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  Yeah. He's a lyrical gangster murderer.
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  Thank you, Derek.
• 3:24
  Yeah,
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  yeah, exactly. Murderer. Yeah, that's my theme song. Oh boy, nice. We're only like a few minutes in and I've probably just chased off everybody effectively from the show.
• 3:40
  That's okay.
• 3:42
  Keith the sound bitch and I just sang Hot Stepper.
• 3:45
  I mean, if they stuck with us past Lone Wolf McQuade, um, then I think they're gonna be all right with that.
• 3:49
  What if we got somebody new listening? They're like, what is this garbage? But you're still here. Wait, let me tell you what we do. Every week we watch a movie, but not just any movie. One of us for the month chooses a theme, a genre, guiding light, some sort of thing that we must adhere to. We each choose movies that adhere to that thing, and then on the 4th week We really fumble. We spin the Wheel of Doom, we get a movie that was inspired by our conversations, and we watched a random movie. This month's theme was a Keith theme, and he chose—
• 4:25
  I chose, uh, fictitious musical acts.
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  Fictitious musical acts, otherwise known as bands. And the movie has to be based—
• 4:33
  Bands or individual singers. I mean, that could be as well.
• 4:37
  Yeah, you're right. You're right, some sort of fictitious, uh, musical thing, right? That's the focus of the movie. Can't just be the Cantina Band from Star Wars unless there was a side movie about the Cantina Band from Star Wars. There you go.
• 4:53
  Very good. Why hasn't somebody done that yet?
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  What about— was Max Rebo—
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  Max Rebo the movie? Oh, Walk Softly: The Max Rebo Story.
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  We learned like Max Rebo is like a, a Jedi after all, but he's just like hidden out being the, uh, the leader of the
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  band. He uses Force talents for music.
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  Oh my God.
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  Yes. Oh yeah. He's like just tricking everyone with his Force mind tricks to like—
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  To think he's good.
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  Yeah. Explain
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  that. I was, no, I was thinking like the other members of the band really can't play any instruments, but he can do them all. And he just has to use the Force to make it seem like, uh, he's a very powerful Jedi.
• 5:32
  Well, who's that the singer then that's with him with the long elephant trunk and the long spear?
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  Is she a Jedi too? Probably.
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  That's but that's she's not in the original one, right?
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  There's
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  no way she no she was she was just a Muppet though.
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  There's no way she could sing like that without the power of like Force voice.
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  I think in the the the digital ones there was the like that half animal half Dr. Teeth guy where he's like yeah yes.
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  Yes,
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  that was obviously a digital addition.
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  I remember watching that, like the, the whatever, the special cut or whatever, the whatever, the one where he added all the CGI stuff into it for Return of the Jedi, and I was like disgusted. I was like, what is this?
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  It's disgusting. You're right,
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  the CGI does not fit in at all with this old movie. Come on, like, just don't. Just leave it. It's fine. Why is this necessary? This big tooth monster. The singer.
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  We didn't need to see Jabba the Hutt get stepped on by Han Solo. We didn't need that.
• 6:29
  Nope. Oh, that was in the first one. Yeah, when they— yeah, yeah, Jabba the Hutt was actually just a little Scottish man.
• 6:37
  Oh yeah, yeah, before he transformed into a worm-like creature.
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  Worm, like it's Dune.
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  Who knows, it could be like Dune, or maybe Slither-like.
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  Yeah,
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  well anyway, Keith chose
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  Eddie and the Cruisers.
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  The Cruisers. Then Terry chose
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  Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story.
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  Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story. Then I chose Pop Star: Never Stop Never Stopping. Then we spun the wheel and Keith's streak of 1 was destroyed, and I'm back on top, baby.
• 7:09
  I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous.
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  And I chose Slither on the wheel. What, what got us to Slither? I can't remember.
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  Um, Pam from The Office.
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  Pam from The Office.
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  Yep.
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  Dewey Cox. Uh,
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  yep. And she was in Slither, and we watched Slither. Now, before we do a deep dive into Slither, before we talk about our viewing of Slither, what was our history with Slither? I had never seen it before. I knew of it, never seen it.
• 7:36
  Same, same boat.
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  I own it on Blu-ray, and I watched it back in college. This last time I watched it Wow. Many years ago. Yep. Many.
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  How many years?
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  Many. We'll say, I think it was 20.
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  I was like, that's a, that's a bold-faced lie.
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  Not 20. Not 20, but less than 20. We'll say that it was less than 20. Okay. I can't, I couldn't tell you the exact year, but it's probably been—
• 7:57
  I like that we just throw many out there.
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  It's many. Yeah.
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  Many, many years. Keith, are you gonna give us the 25 movies from Rolling Stone? The, the 25 best movie bands, whatever they are?
• 8:11
  Sure, absolutely. I can do that.
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  Oh my God.
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  I know you wanted me to bring it back up, uh, after we got done going through them. That way I didn't spoil anything after the first round.
• 8:20
  Yes,
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  exactly. Exactly.
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  Can I guess what number 1 is? And don't tell me if I'm right or wrong. We'll just do the countdown.
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  I want to guess too. I want to guess too.
• 8:27
  Number 1 has to be the Blues Brothers, right?
• 8:28
  Nope. Number 1, I bet Spinal Tap.
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  Oh, number 2 is Blues Brothers. Okay, go ahead.
• 8:34
  That's a good strong 1 and 2.
• 8:36
  Those were 2 that were on my list, but I've seen them both.
• 8:39
  Yeah, I've never seen Spinal Tap. I
• 8:43
  actually was. Spinal Tap 2 just came out.
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  I was actually worried that it was going to come up from one of you two picking it, and I was happy I didn't have to see it.
• 8:51
  You don't want to see it?
• 8:52
  You were happy that you didn't have to see Spinal Tap?
• 8:53
  Yeah, I don't want to see it.
• 8:55
  Huh. Wow.
• 8:57
  Okay. Sing Street.
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  What?
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  Number 25? Yeah, from the movie Sing Street.
• 9:02
  Oh, true. Okay.
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  It's a 1980s pop version of The Commitments.
• 9:07
  Okay.
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  When did this list get made?
• 9:10
  2020.
• 9:11
  Okay. So it's relatively recent. Last 5 years. Okay. Go
• 9:14
  ahead. Yeah. And I can't think of any like really—
• 9:16
  So no K-pop even hunters.
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  We'll just say it's been many years since it came out.
• 9:20
  Yeah. Okay. Marvin Berry and the Starlighters from Back to the Future.
• 9:24
  Okay.
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  That's one of the top fictitious bands of a band that showed up for 5 minutes.
• 9:29
  That's what they put on here.
• 9:31
  Yeah. All right. Rolling Stone.
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  I mean, there's iconic scene. So give it to them, I guess.
• 9:35
  I guess.
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  Um, Steel Dragon from Rockstar, Mark Wahlberg's, uh, band.
• 9:40
  I never seen it.
• 9:41
  Sure, it's a—
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  it's an '80s metal band that he's in.
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  Oh, I'm intrigued.
• 9:45
  Yeah, the Weird Sisters from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.
• 9:49
  There was a band in that movie?
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  I don't remember that either.
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  Oh, you know what, it was from the Christmas ball.
• 9:56
  Oh, okay.
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  And they're dancing around. I couldn't— I couldn't tell you what they sound like, what they look like, or what they're saying.
• 10:02
  Yeah, nobody cares. I'll be honest, I'm glad I never read this list before because I'm not liking it so far. Number 21, uh, The Carrie Nations from Beyond Valley of the Dolls.
• 10:12
  I never saw
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  it. No, I don't know that either.
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  From 1970.
• 10:16
  Yeah.
• 10:17
  Uh, it's a, uh, Russ Meyer sexploitation film.
• 10:21
  Oh wow.
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  Um, oh, The Ain't Rights from The Green Room.
• 10:25
  Oh, okay, that's a good movie. Okay, how about that?
• 10:29
  From the movie called Green Room.
• 10:30
  I don't know.
• 10:31
  That would have been a good pick. That would have been a good pick.
• 10:33
  Dang. Yeah, that's, uh, that's a really good movie with, um,
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  Patrick Stewart.
• 10:38
  Yeah, Patrick Stewart in a role you're not ready for him to be.
• 10:41
  No, I've never seen that. Yeah. Okay.
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  All right. Uh, Citizen Dick from the movie Singles.
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  Okay. Never saw
• 10:49
  it. It's a grunge band, fictitious grunge band thing. Eddie and the Cruisers was number 18.
• 10:56
  Wow. Yes.
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  I remember this is where it came in. It's like, oh, there's 17 better.
• 11:00
  And at number 17 was the movie I almost picked for this, and that was, uh, the Wonders from That Thing You Do.
• 11:06
  Oh, that was on my list too.
• 11:08
  Yeah, the, uh, the Oneeters. I almost picked that one there. Uh, oh, uh, Sex Bob-omb from Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. That's a good one.
• 11:20
  That's a big one. Yeah, I've crossed my mind, but I didn't pick it.
• 11:23
  Uh, Maxwell Demon and Venus in Furs from Velvet Goldmine.
• 11:29
  Never saw it.
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  That I don't know.
• 11:30
  I, I've— it's a Ziggy Stardust type band. Um, I've never seen the movie, so.
• 11:36
  Okay.
• 11:37
  Uh, oh, here's another one that was on my list. CB4. Chris Rock's, uh—
• 11:44
  What number is that?
• 11:45
  14.
• 11:46
  So CB4 is for— CB4 is like a parody of NWA?
• 11:51
  Yeah, it's, uh, MC Gusto, Stabmaster Arson, and Dead Mike.
• 11:55
  That movie is not very good though.
• 11:56
  That's why I didn't want to rewatch it.
• 11:59
  Yeah.
• 12:00
  Uh, oh, the Soggy Bottom Boys from O Brother, Where Art Thou?
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  Oh, hot dog.
• 12:05
  Yeah, I like that one.
• 12:06
  Yeah, but they're not the main focus of that movie, unfortunately. Otherwise, that'd be a good choice.
• 12:11
  Yeah. Um, this also— this is not the main focus of the movie. It's just kind of a running thing throughout this movie. Um, Sonic Death Monkey in High Fidelity.
• 12:19
  Okay.
• 12:21
  And that's where Jack Black eventually comes on, does a very good version of Let's Get It On by Marvin Gaye. Um, but he keeps changing the name. It's, um, Sonic Death Monkey, Kathleen Turner Overdrive, and he eventually is Barry Jive and the Uptown Five. Is the name— that's the final name of the band that he sells.
• 12:37
  Yeah, I saw that movie once a long time ago and I don't remember it.
• 12:41
  That movie is fantastic. Uh, the book is amazing. The TV show that they did of it as well It's also very good.
• 12:48
  Yeah,
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  wow.
• 12:48
  All right,
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  it's got Zoë Kravitz in it, so it's got to be good.
• 12:51
  Yeah, I guess.
• 12:53
  Uh, the Barden Bells from Pitch Perfect.
• 12:55
  Oh
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  yeah,
• 12:56
  okay.
• 12:58
  Uh, Jim and Gene from Inside, uh, Llewyn Davis. Yeah, I've not seen that one.
• 13:03
  I believe that's a Coen Brothers movie, if I'm not mistaken.
• 13:06
  It is
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  correct,
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  and I want to see it. And I— that's because it's got, uh, Poe Dameron Moon Knight did it. I can't think of his name.
• 13:15
  He's a great actor. I can't think of it.
• 13:17
  Yeah, uh, Duke Leto from, uh, Dune.
• 13:20
  Yeah, the guy from, um, Deus
• 13:23
  Ex Machina.
• 13:24
  Yes, I was gonna say the robot movie.
• 13:25
  Oh yeah, that's a very good movie too. I like that.
• 13:28
  He's so good in that too.
• 13:30
  Yeah, yeah, Oscar Isaac. Yeah, that's his name.
• 13:32
  Oh, you know what, I, I probably could have scrolled up a little bit higher and looked at what
• 13:38
  it was.
• 13:38
  Um, all right, uh, School of Rock. Uh, the kids from the movie School of Rock.
• 13:42
  Okay.
• 13:43
  I did think about picking that. I didn't know.
• 13:44
  Oh, oh. Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem.
• 13:47
  Okay. For the Muppets. Fair.
• 13:49
  Yep. Uh, The Commitments. Uh, it's an Irish music band from, um, 1991 called the movie called The Commitments.
• 13:57
  I don't remember that one at all.
• 13:59
  Mm-hmm. Figrin Dan and the Modal Nodes from Star Wars.
• 14:05
  The Modal Nodes. Okay.
• 14:06
  Uh-huh.
• 14:07
  That's the name of the cantina band.
• 14:09
  That's their name?
• 14:10
  What's their name again?
• 14:12
  Figrin Da'an. It's D apostrophe A-N. Okay. The Mortal Notes.
• 14:17
  The Mortal Notes.
• 14:19
  Okay. No, I don't like that name. It's better as Cantina Band.
• 14:21
  I like Cantina Band. I never knew that ever.
• 14:24
  Is Max Rebo above them? Because if they are, then I'm gonna be upset.
• 14:27
  That's— he's part of that band, isn't he?
• 14:31
  No, Max Rebo was the Jabba the Hutt band.
• 14:33
  Wait, no, I think Max Rebo might be the leader of the Cantina Band.
• 14:36
  Oh, I don't think so.
• 14:37
  I'd be looking up Max Rebo.
• 14:40
  Uh, the folksman from A Mighty Wind.
• 14:42
  Max Rebo is the blue elephant guy.
• 14:45
  You're right, you're right. He's that little keyboard guy.
• 14:49
  Okay. Yeah,
• 14:50
  well, then you're right, you're right. Sorry about that. Should have doubted you, Dirk.
• 14:55
  Yeah, we'll never do it again. Um, the folksman from A Mighty Wind. Uh-huh.
• 15:01
  That was number 4. Cross my mind too. Okay, good.
• 15:03
  Number four, Hedwig, Hedwig and the Angry Inch.
• 15:06
  I've heard, I've heard that movie's really good, and I've never seen it.
• 15:10
  Yeah, I've never seen that one either. Stillwater from Almost Famous.
• 15:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:16
  The Blues Brothers.
• 15:16
  They're in the main focus of the band though. Go ahead.
• 15:18
  No, they're not. No, it's uh, and then number two is the Blues Brothers, and number one is Spinal Tap.
• 15:24
  Woo! We nailed it.
• 15:25
  Wow, you guys really good with this. Wow.
• 15:28
  We got two out of the twenty-five.
• 15:30
  Well, I mean, no, I didn't think you guys were gonna call out like all twenty, but you guys got. The top 2. Nice job.
• 15:36
  I feel like I knew maybe 20% of what you talked about on this.
• 15:39
  Yeah.
• 15:40
  And Blues Brothers, I'm gonna tell you what, was almost a hard yes for me this month because I really love that movie.
• 15:47
  I almost—
• 15:48
  Made it.
• 15:50
  Terry, have you seen the Blues Brothers?
• 15:51
  I haven't seen it. That's why I was like, I should probably— maybe I'll—
• 15:53
  Oh, you've never seen the Blues Brothers?
• 15:55
  Yeah, I haven't.
• 15:56
  Wow. Now I feel bad that I didn't choose it because Yeah, that, that is a— that's a very good movie.
• 16:04
  Yeah, that movie came out on my 5th birthday.
• 16:07
  Oh yeah, nice.
• 16:10
  Congratulations.
• 16:11
  Yeah,
• 16:13
  you're only 5 years older than the Blues Brothers. And it has an amazing practical just demolition car chase scene that— it's so cool, it's so good.
• 16:25
  Yeah.
• 16:26
  Like when you realize that, like, oh, this is made in the '70s or 1980, and they had to do this all with like real cars and stunt drivers, and it's insanity. It's so good.
• 16:36
  It opens in the town I was born in.
• 16:40
  It does? Wait, really? On your birthday? It was on your birthday and it opens in the town you were born in?
• 16:45
  Yes, it does.
• 16:47
  That's impressive.
• 16:47
  What town? What are the Elgin?
• 16:50
  They open from Joliet.
• 16:52
  Oh, they sure do. I was born in that town too. I forgot because the prison. Yep.
• 16:57
  I'm surprised the the what is that band? The Wild Stallions aren't on there from the Bill and Ted.
• 17:04
  Yeah, you're right. They should be in there for sure.
• 17:08
  I almost picked the second Bill and Ted movie because that's my favorite
• 17:11
  one.
• 17:12
  Haven't seen the second one yet.
• 17:13
  You've never seen the second one? Oh no, you're missing out. I like that better than the first one.
• 17:17
  Really? Well, I haven't seen the first one in a long time, so I. Don't know.
• 17:21
  I watched the first one, uh, a few years ago when they came back and did that— the third. Yeah, one that they came back.
• 17:27
  Oh, there's 3?
• 17:28
  Yeah, they relatively recent, like a couple years ago.
• 17:31
  Oh, uh, Bill and Ted Face the Music.
• 17:33
  I thought the new one was the second one. I didn't realize there was this one in between those 2.
• 17:36
  No, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.
• 17:38
  Oh wow, where they, where they meet death.
• 17:41
  Oh, don't spoil it, Keith.
• 17:42
  I didn't think it was a spoiler. I thought it was the whole It's
• 17:46
  very good.
• 17:47
  I've only seen one. I guess that's 2 and 3 of the trilogy. That could have been a trilogy pick then. I had—
• 17:52
  it could have been a trilogy. Shoot. Yeah,
• 17:54
  I would have missed opportunity. Instead I picked Rebirth of Mothra 3.
• 17:58
  Well, we've, we've established you're the big swinger here, so
• 18:02
  yeah.
• 18:05
  All right, so those were the top 25, and we kind of all hinted about things we wanted to pick. Yeah,
• 18:09
  yeah,
• 18:10
  I almost picked Eddie and the Cruisers 2 just because I had the double disc Blu-ray pack.
• 18:15
  I kind of wish you would have, and then I— but I would have goddamned you the whole time because I would have had to buy a separate— any of the Cruisers 2.
• 18:22
  You would have wished you would have bought that. You wish you would have bought that double pack.
• 18:26
  I'm here, I'm teaching Derek a lesson. I'm picking any of your Cruisers 2 because I got the DVD.
• 18:31
  Because I was bragging it out. Oh, I got the double disc here. And you're like, I don't need the double disc, you only need the DVD. Oh, it's like I bought my—
• 18:39
  I bought my 3-pack of DVDs, each with 4 movies on them for Slither, that I thought would come in special packaging and did not. They were just all shrink-wrapped together,
• 18:48
  just loose DVD.
• 18:50
  We now— we now know all of Derek's themes are going to come from the other 11 movies.
• 18:54
  We're gonna go through each one of these DVDs, damn it.
• 18:56
  Oh my God.
• 18:57
  Yeah,
• 18:57
  but before we do that, I'm gonna take you closer to Slither than you could have ever imagined going. Oh God, man, with another patent-pending Fumbler's Deep Dive. Slither. This sumbitch came out on March 31st, 2006. Comedy, horror, sci-fi. Check, check, check, all 3. A small town is taken over by an alien plague, turning residents into zombies and all forms of mutant monsters. Succinct, and I like it.
• 19:27
  Yes, I like that too.
• 19:29
  Gets a 6.5 on IMDb and an 87% Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 19:35
  Wow. Okay.
• 19:36
  Made on a $15 million budget. I like that, it's small. Opened to $3.88 mil, not a ton. Had a $7.8 mil domestic run with a global box office of $12.8.
• 19:49
  Oh,
• 19:50
  it released that same weekend alongside Ice Age 2: The Meltdown, ATL, and this one's for Keith, Lucky Number Slevin.
• 19:57
  Oh, that's too bad this isn't one of those things where we can pick that movie again because that's come up quite a few times.
• 20:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:04
  Uh, I will also say I've seen ATL. It actually is a very good movie as well.
• 20:07
  I've never seen it. I heard of it.
• 20:10
  Never seen it. Ice Age 2, that little squirrel's pretty hilarious.
• 20:12
  Oh God, you can't get enough of that squirrel.
• 20:14
  He's not a squirrel, I don't think. Uh, I think— Of course he is. No, he's got a separate name. They said he couldn't be a squirrel for some reason. I forget what it is, but I hate those. I hate those movies.
• 20:24
  You hate the Ice Age movies?
• 20:26
  I do too.
• 20:26
  Yeah.
• 20:27
  Yeah. What the heck?
• 20:28
  I hate them.
• 20:29
  Yeah, those and the Hotel Transylvania series. Like, Just despise both of them.
• 20:32
  Even like the first one?
• 20:34
  Yeah.
• 20:35
  Wow. Okay,
• 20:36
  well,
• 20:38
  Slither is rated R and comes in at a very succinct 1 hour and 35 minutes.
• 20:43
  Nice, like that.
• 20:44
  Written and directed by James Gunn, the pride of St. Louis, Missouri.
• 20:48
  Like that as well.
• 20:49
  He has 38 writing credits going back to 1996, including Tromeo and Juliet, Scooby-Doo and Scooby-Doo 2, Dawn of the Dead, Zack Snyder's best movie.
• 21:01
  Uh,
• 21:01
  no,
• 21:02
  no,
• 21:02
  no, it's not.
• 21:04
  What's his best movie then? It's not that Dave Al movie.
• 21:06
  Yes, it is.
• 21:08
  What's Zack Snyder's best movie, Terry?
• 21:11
  Guardians of the Galaxy.
• 21:12
  Probably Man of Steel, I think.
• 21:14
  I— no, I don't. Uh, he also wrote, uh, the Guardians of the Galaxy movies and holiday special. He wrote The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, Superman, Creature Commandos.
• 21:25
  Yes.
• 21:26
  He has 19 directing credits going back to 1997. Slither is his first feature, but he directed all the superhero stuff he wrote that I mentioned earlier. In 2010, he wrote and directed a movie called Super.
• 21:38
  Oh yeah.
• 21:40
  After his wife falls under the influence of a drug dealer, an everyday guy transforms himself into Crimson Bolt, a superhero with the best intentions but lacking in heroic skills.
• 21:51
  I forgot about that movie.
• 21:53
  Stars Rainn Wilson, Elliot Page, Liv Tyler, Kevin Bacon, Michael Rooker, Nathan Fillion, Sean Gunn, and Linda Cardellini.
• 22:01
  Wow, that's a lot of people in there.
• 22:03
  Seems like a lot of names that show up every time he does stuff.
• 22:06
  Yes, particularly Michael Rooker, Nathan Fillion, and Sean Gunn.
• 22:11
  Those 3 always show up.
• 22:12
  Yeah, Sean Gunn was in this one too, and it cracked me up when I spotted him.
• 22:16
  So So this is what I'm loving so far about like James Gunn taking over the, the DC, uh, movie universe. That's different from Kevin Feige running the Marvel one. Kevin Feige's not writing any of this stuff.
• 22:32
  No.
• 22:33
  James Gunn is sitting there basically going through and basically like handling almost everything.
• 22:38
  He's laying all the foundation.
• 22:40
  Yes. And I understand he's not gonna— like, he won't be writing like Wonder Woman movie, and I don't think he's— he didn't write Supergirl, but, but like all the other main stuff, like Creature Commandos was really good, uh, Peacemaker is very good.
• 22:56
  Yep.
• 22:56
  Uh, Superman and, and everything that they're putting together, and, and he is much more hands-on with the actual writing of it as well, which I think is, is great because he is very unlike Zack Snyder, who tried to do it and said, I don't care about comic books. Like, James Gunn is
• 23:11
  James Gunn's
• 23:11
  kind of— His thing. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:13
  He— what I like about him is he does a good job of, um, he appreciates the weird characters, which I always kind of like those kind of like lesser-known characters too. And I feel like he really gravitates towards like these people, these things that people don't— never heard of before, but then he like makes them interesting and cool, you know, and then introduces them to the world. Like, yeah, check these guys out.
• 23:32
  Nobody had an idea who Guardians of the Galaxy were. Exactly. Yeah, boom, here you go.
• 23:37
  Or Creature Commandos or Peacemaker.
• 23:39
  Mr. Terrific. Like, I mean, Mr. Terrific's maybe a little more popular, but probably not that much.
• 23:44
  Yeah, not much. And, and the thing is, he does— he's not afraid of the fact that it's comic books.
• 23:50
  Yes.
• 23:50
  In fact, he embraces comic books. I just, I love— I just love the way he goes about things. Whether you like him or you don't, I don't care. I really enjoyed him.
• 23:58
  And he writes that natural conversation type thing.
• 24:01
  He's very good at
• 24:02
  it. Yes, it's true.
• 24:03
  This movie stars a person I enjoy very much, Nathan Fillion, as Bill Pardee. He has 114 acting credits going back to 1993, including things like Saving Private Ryan, Dracula 2001.
• 24:19
  Oh,
• 24:19
  60 episodes of Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place.
• 24:22
  Really?
• 24:23
  The only 14 episodes of Firefly and the follow-up movie Serenity. He was Cactoid Jim on a couple episodes of Thrilling Adventure Hour podcast during the Sparks, Nevada, Marshall on Mars segments.
• 24:36
  Okay,
• 24:37
  enjoy those.
• 24:37
  Those are very good.
• 24:39
  Terry, if you have time, look up Thrilling Adventure Hour and just listen to them. They're amazing.
• 24:45
  Okay.
• 24:47
  He's been some variation of a Green Lantern and a bunch of stuff, and most recently Guy Gardner and Superman.
• 24:52
  Yes.
• 24:52
  But in 2017, he did the voice of Shojun in a stop-motion and puppet-based movie called Yama-san: March of the Hollows. An automated girl and tortoise warrior journey with a band of outlaws on an incredible quest. Their one hope is to find a legendary relic to defeat a sinister mechanized army and save the creatures of their world. Stars Nathan Fillion, Malcolm McDowell, Whoopi Goldberg, George Takei, and others. The executive producer is Heather Henson, the daughter of Jim Henson.
• 25:26
  Oh, nice.
• 25:27
  And I'd never heard of this thing. I watched the trailer. It looks cool.
• 25:31
  It sounds awesome.
• 25:33
  Sounds interesting. Yeah.
• 25:34
  It looks cool. Yeah, it's like puppets and stop-motion animation, kind of Muppety, kind of not. I, I don't know how to explain other than that. I don't know if it's good, but it looks really interesting and I may have to watch it.
• 25:46
  Sounds cool to me. Yeah, I like the idea of it.
• 25:49
  This movie also stars Elizabeth Banks as Starla Grant. She has 99 acting credits going back to 1998. She's the chef to the Wet Hot American Summer movies, Spider-Man 1 and 2, Fred Claus, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, a movie which I hate.
• 26:06
  Oh, I need to rewatch that one. I, I remember liking it a lot.
• 26:11
  It's on the rewatch list.
• 26:11
  16 episodes of Scrubs. She played Effie Trinket in The Hunger Games movies. She's Wyldstyle in The Lego Movies. But in 2002, she played Lucy in Catch Me If You Can. Barely 17 yet, Frank is a skilled forger who has passed as a doctor, lawyer, and pilot. FBI agent Carl becomes obsessed with tracking down the con man who only revels in the pursuit. Directed by Steven Spielberg, starring DiCaprio, Tom Hanks, and Christopher Walken. Do enjoy this movie.
• 26:42
  I've never seen it. There's a new one coming out, right? Pretty soon.
• 26:46
  Is there? I have no idea.
• 26:48
  Oh wait, no, I'm thinking of, uh, the Now You See Me.
• 26:51
  Oh, Now You See Me,
• 26:52
  Now You Don't. Very different, very different movies. Yes,
• 26:57
  Catch Me If You Can is really good. I do like that movie quite a bit.
• 27:00
  Okay.
• 27:01
  Yeah, it's, it's a very well done movie and, and it's loosely based on a true story.
• 27:06
  Yeah, I, I do believe that DiCaprio plays a real-life con man character who was— who did that. Yes. I don't know if the rest is fictionalized.
• 27:18
  I forget what his name is, uh, but yeah, yeah, he's very—
• 27:20
  Break something or other.
• 27:21
  Yeah, he's very good in that. I just watched that a couple years, uh, back because I hadn't seen it in a while, right? I threw it on and I was like, oh, this holds up very well.
• 27:31
  Back when I had like, um, cable and stuff, it would pop on and I just watched like 30 minutes here and there because it'd be on like TBS or TNT all the time.
• 27:40
  Oh, nice.
• 27:42
  Now we've gone over Michael Rooker in the past, so I'm gonna— yeah, I'm gonna skip over Michael Rooker a little bit. Deep dive on a on a bit— on a real bit part, but Lloyd Kaufman plays Sad Drunk in this movie.
• 27:56
  He was in this?
• 27:57
  Yes. Now Lloyd Kaufman, he wanted to work on Broadway when he was younger, but got into filmmaking at Yale. He helped on movies like Rocky and Saturday Night Fever. He eventually formed a studio called 15th Street Films with friends Frank Vitale and Oliver Stone. They made a few movies, but their biggest movie in scope was called Schwartz the Brave Detective. AKA Big Gus, What's the Fuss? And it was a huge flop, and 15th Street Films was ruined. After that, to make a quick buck, he made a movie called The Divine Obsession in 1976 with his friend from Yale, Michael Hertz, and they together formed Troma Studios. He's got 446 acting credits. I'm not gonna touch on those.
• 28:43
  Holy cow.
• 28:44
  He's got 146 producing credits with things like Squeeze Play, which was a sexy softball movie that was like, was requested of him thanks to the—
• 28:56
  That wasn't requested of him.
• 28:57
  The Divine Obsession was like a sexy horror movie, and somebody said, we want a sexy movie but about softball.
• 29:04
  Oh,
• 29:05
  they like the— yeah, what he did there.
• 29:08
  So yeah, produced Mother's Day, Zombie Island Massacre, The Toxic Adventures of—
• 29:14
  Sexy movie about a zombie island.
• 29:16
  Yep.
• 29:17
  By request.
• 29:18
  He produced Monster in the Closet, Class of Nuke 'Em High, Decapitated— not decapitated, Decampitated—
• 29:26
  oh,
• 29:27
  Terror Farmer, Mr. Bricks: A Heavy Metal Murder Musical.
• 29:32
  That's a
• 29:32
  bunch of Dolphin Man videos. Like
• 29:35
  Dolphin Man, I
• 29:35
  don't know what it is, but Dolphin Man Battles the Sex Lobsters and Dolphin Man versus Turkey Man.
• 29:41
  Oh yeah, I do want to know what that is. Turkey Man versus Dolphin Man.
• 29:45
  But in 1990, he produced Sergeant Kabuki Man NYPD.
• 29:50
  Oh God.
• 29:51
  A streetwise New York police officer transforms into the world's most unusual Superman hero— your superhuman hero. The film follows Sergeant Detective Harry Griswold, the clumsy NYPD cop investigating a string of murders involving kabuki actors. While attending an amateur kabuki play, Harry witnesses thugs gun down the entire cast. In the ensuing gunfight, Harry is forcibly kissed by one of the dying actors, unknowingly becoming blessed with the powers of Kabuki. I love Lloyd Kaufman. I love Troma. Are they good? Not particularly, but some of them are bangers. I think the Toxic Avenger, even though Terry doesn't like it, is—
• 30:32
  Yeah, I just was recently watching those. I've watched the first 3 Toxic Avengers so far. Not my favorite, but Kabuki Man does show up in the second one.
• 30:40
  Yeah, and Kabuki— have you seen Kabuki Man, Terry?
• 30:44
  No, no, I had piqued my interest, but I'm not sure after the Toxic Avengers if I should.
• 30:48
  I've seen it a very long time ago, and I was probably under some influence, so I do not remember it well, but I do remember laughing quite a bit.
• 30:56
  Okay, maybe I'll check it out.
• 30:58
  Here are some Slither fun facts. I got a handful of them here.
• 31:04
  Okay,
• 31:04
  this first one's kind of long, so bear with me here. Jenna Fischer, who was married to James Gunn at the time—
• 31:10
  Oh really?
• 31:11
  Okay.
• 31:11
  Was not originally part of the cast. The actor in her role begged to be— begged to be released from his contract because he had an offer to shoot a pilot. So Gunn said, all right, be gone. You don't want to be here. I'd rather have people that want to be here. Go do what you got to do. So Gunn swapped the character's gender and gave her a few more lines because it's his wife. And by the time the movie was released, Fischer had become immensely popular because of The Office. So she was the one who went on The Tonight Show the night before the film opened. Not Fillion, not Gunn, not Michael Rooker— Jenna Fischer, who plays a very bit role in the movie.
• 31:52
  Uh, who, who was the person that she replaced? Oh,
• 31:57
  did say
• 31:57
  it's probably like a DiCaprio or something.
• 32:02
  Yeah, probably. I got a pilot I gotta shoot, it's DiCaprio in 2006.
• 32:08
  I got something big coming up. I really— this could be make or break me.
• 32:13
  This could be my thing right here. All right, in the opening scene, as they pan down the street, you can see RJ McCready's funeral home. RJ McCready is the name of the mayor and was the name of Kurt Russell's character in The Thing.
• 32:28
  Oh,
• 32:29
  Russell ended up working with James Gunn 11 years later on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
• 32:33
  Yes, that's true.
• 32:35
  Those are things I enjoy, those sorts of things.
• 32:37
  Also looks like it's not a funeral home anymore. Yeah, this is a very— this is a very weird town that they're in, by the way.
• 32:43
  Wheelie, it is. Yes. Uh, Michael Rooker dislocated his shoulder while filming the scene where he attacks Star-Lord and grows that floppy arm.
• 32:51
  Oh yeah,
• 32:53
  it was a long shooting day with multiple setups, and he didn't tell anyone until the shot was, was in the can. Until he dislocated his shoulder and kept doing that over and over again.
• 33:02
  So that's like a practical effect, that long wiggly arm.
• 33:05
  I know, I did the deep dive before I watched the movie, and I was waiting for it. I'm like, boy, he could have had a floppy arm and you wouldn't even know. The original title of this film was called Wiggle.
• 33:17
  No, that's bad. Yeah.
• 33:19
  Which reminds me of the Australian kids group, The Wiggles.
• 33:22
  The Wiggles?
• 33:24
  Yes. But producers requested it be called— it be changed to Slither because it sounded more threatening.
• 33:29
  It does sound a lot more threatening.
• 33:31
  It does.
• 33:31
  Yes. Than Wiggle? Yes. Ready, steady, wiggle. Fruit salad.
• 33:38
  Yummy, yummy.
• 33:40
  Wow.
• 33:41
  Hot potato. Yep.
• 33:43
  Have you seen the YouTube video of The Wiggles where they— I can't remember what song they covered, but it was like a— it's like a channel, I think, where they just bring on random bands to cover other songs, and they brought The Wiggles on, and it was an amazing cover that they did.
• 33:55
  I can't— I unironically love The Wiggles because I had kids and I watched so many Wiggles, and I loved them. I thought they were great.
• 34:04
  That might have been, um, this Australian show called Like A Version. Yeah, bring people on to do covers. I think they— I think they brought The Wiggles on to do something. I forget what song they did.
• 34:14
  It's a great cover.
• 34:15
  I hope it was awesome. I was like, War Pigs or something like that.
• 34:19
  It was something kind of like psychedelic-y kind of thing.
• 34:20
  Oh, awesome. Yeah, love The Wiggles. Starla teaches at Earl Bassett Community School, a reference to the character played by Fred Ward in Tremors.
• 34:32
  Oh, okay.
• 34:33
  In the script Brenda is the niece of Randy Flagg. Randall Flagg is the bad guy in several Stephen King novels, including The Stand.
• 34:43
  Yes, Randall Flagg, iconic. The walking dude himself.
• 34:47
  The scene where the monstrous Grant slithers across the field unaware that he's surrounded by cops was created practically and manipulated by multiple puppeteers who were then digitally erased.
• 34:58
  Nice.
• 34:59
  Love practical effects.
• 35:01
  Oh yeah.
• 35:02
  And then The last fun fact: the question about the film that James Gunn gets most is people inquiring as to who sings the song at the very end. It's called "Baby, I Love You" by the Yahoo's or the Yayhoos, one of the two.
• 35:17
  It's like a real band, I guess.
• 35:20
  Yep. Yes. It's people who didn't have closed caption on apparently.
• 35:26
  This movie does have a lot of music in it, and it was. could tell it's very James Gunn-y because music as like a— it's like a backdrop for the action going on and stuff like that. It's very well done in this movie too.
• 35:39
  And there's a band in it for a few seconds.
• 35:41
  Yes, and I like that band. I don't know who that country band was about going and finding $20 or whatever it was.
• 35:49
  Yes, it's a good song. I kind of liked it.
• 35:51
  Yeah, I like how they're all line dancing to it and they're kind of singing along. I'm like, I don't know what this song is, but I like it.
• 35:57
  I hope it was original.
• 35:59
  Yeah. All right, we gotta do it. I guess I got dangerously close to Slither.
• 36:03
  Oh God, I thought those worms were gonna crawl up on me.
• 36:07
  Just don't let them get in your mouth. That's the big thing.
• 36:09
  Not, not close enough to actually kind of like melt into, into it, but we got close.
• 36:14
  We got within spitting distance, which is not good.
• 36:16
  Yeah, we didn't— we weren't able to assimilate with the giant blob that is— what's his name— Carl.
• 36:21
  Yeah, unfortunately. Maybe, you know, it'll be fine. Maybe one day one of us will get infected with the worm and we can just all assimilate. Infected with the worm. I think that'd be fun. It was like one podcast, we're all just really like in sync. We're all just talking as if we're one.
• 36:38
  We're doing— Terry, we're doing that already without— without any— we don't need worms.
• 36:43
  Okay, okay.
• 36:44
  They can't hurt.
• 36:47
  Just the mail one. If I get a couple worms here, I'll just mail them to you guys so we can all just—
• 36:51
  oh, if I get a slimy box in the mail with worms, when you take it to the post office, does this have anything dangerous in it?
• 36:57
  Oh no, no, no.
• 37:00
  It's just the box is bouncing around on the counter.
• 37:05
  Just just make sure that thing stays taped up. All right.
• 37:08
  Yeah. Please do not open it.
• 37:10
  Yeah.
• 37:11
  Why is it soaking through on the bottom?
• 37:13
  It just says like do not bend photos inside or something on the top.
• 37:18
  Yeah. He said he sent it media mail.
• 37:20
  Yeah. Fragile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:22
  He sent a worm media mail.
• 37:24
  Yeah.
• 37:24
  Do you know? Do you know the post office? will on occasion, like, if they suspect it's not media, open it up.
• 37:32
  What?
• 37:33
  And then if it's not media, then it gets sent back to you and you're like fined.
• 37:37
  Oh no. So you think they'll suspect that they put a worm in the media mail?
• 37:42
  If you put a worm in media mail, they may open up that worm, but then they're not going to catch you because that worm's going to like implant in their brain.
• 37:49
  But then that's the problem is that the worm, that's one worm gone. How am I going to, how many worms can I get? That's the—
• 37:54
  you know, but also we know it's not gonna get to Derek on time. Oh, it will attack somebody else.
• 38:01
  That worm will starve to death before he gets there.
• 38:03
  Either that or like the city of Milwaukee will be destroyed by a worm.
• 38:07
  I might as well just hand deliver the worm.
• 38:12
  Yeah, especially— I'm Mr. McFeely from Mr. Rogers Special Delivery. Delivering a worm.
• 38:21
  Wow, that'd be great
• 38:24
  delivery. That would be awesome. All right, let's talk about Slither.
• 38:29
  Yes,
• 38:29
  I, I don't want to jump the gun. I really enjoyed this movie.
• 38:32
  Jump the gun? Yes,
• 38:35
  I wasn't even going for the pun, but I really did enjoy this movie quite a bit.
• 38:39
  I'm right, right on.
• 38:41
  It has a lot of the things I really enjoy, including practical effects, quality sound and Foley.
• 38:48
  Yes.
• 38:49
  Goopy gore.
• 38:51
  So slimy.
• 38:52
  Yeah,
• 38:54
  it's a, it's a little of everything, a little bit of everything in this movie. Yeah, I feel like, which is nice. It's funny, it's kind of creepy body horror, but like it's got like that, it keeps that kind of like playful vibe the whole time, which is nice.
• 39:06
  Oh, so it's also got like, it's got something that makes me like visually turn away from the screen for a minute or two because it's just disgusting, but at the same time I'm like, this is also a pretty well, uh, cool, well-done movie.
• 39:20
  So one of the fun facts I didn't put on there, but I'm gonna drop for you now, uh, Nathan Fillion was told by James Gunn, we're making a funny movie, but it's not a comedy.
• 39:30
  Yes.
• 39:32
  And then he's— and then Nathan Fillion, once he heard that, he understood his character. And, and he has a line that I, I guffawed. I know it's like, uh, my good— my good-natured humor is really being challenged right now, or something.
• 39:47
  My easygoing nature is being—
• 39:49
  yeah, my easygoing ego nature is really being challenged right now.
• 39:51
  I really like that thing.
• 39:52
  I— it was a terrific line and it made me guffaw. I really enjoyed it.
• 39:57
  Yes, it's a, it's a great— I think James Gunn's very good at that, that vibe, you know, like the just the— he's— all his movies kind of have that funny tone to them, like, so there's no comedies,
• 40:09
  but
• 40:09
  they're funny, right? Yes. And, and this is like, it's fun to see him do it in a horror film because, you know, I'm more used to his like superhero stuff now, obviously, but like It's fun to see him blend that with the horror, and like, he does a good job at both, which is pretty impressive.
• 40:22
  He's able to keep the tension going up, and like, he can drop those in and they don't, they don't mess with it that much. They kind of maybe just ease it back a little bit because he knows he's about to ramp it back up again.
• 40:34
  And another thing I really appreciate about James Gunn movie creation is he understands he's working in a medium. where he can do pretty much anything he wants.
• 40:46
  Yes.
• 40:47
  And he does that, and he does it within the narrative, and it doesn't ruin anything. Like, uh, when Michael Rooker gets the worm shot into his gut and they do that like weird like, uh, X-ray side cut of him, and the— that was really cool.
• 41:04
  Like Mortal Kombat style.
• 41:06
  Yes.
• 41:07
  Yeah.
• 41:07
  So,
• 41:07
  so everyone can actually understand what's happening here.
• 41:10
  Yeah. Like, you don't have to guess, like, oh, the worm must have gone to his brain. I saw the worm go into his brain.
• 41:15
  It's a great visual way to show it. Yeah, exactly.
• 41:18
  Or like the fact that like, you know, this thing lands here and stuff like that, and he is able to then give you a quick full background of the thing by, uh, so when the, the one gets into that girl's mouth and she's trying to pull it out, and he's able to quickly like give you this quick almost like world building.
• 41:37
  Yep.
• 41:37
  In a matter of like 10 seconds. of just quick images of letting you know what else has been going on. I thought that was really good that we got this like cool deep kind of like almost deep dive. We got very close.
• 41:48
  Oh
• 41:49
  yeah, very close.
• 41:50
  Yeah, that lady did get probably just about as close.
• 41:52
  Dangerously close. Yeah, yeah, as close as you can get.
• 41:55
  Just about as close as we did. Yeah,
• 41:57
  well, it's cool because then at the end she's, you know, you know, she's able to let, uh, Nathan Fillion's character know that, well, you need both those things in you to—
• 42:06
  and you know what, what part of the movie that was when the worm went in her mouth?
• 42:11
  Oh my God, what was that?
• 42:13
  Right at the— like, it was almost exactly at the middle of the movie.
• 42:17
  That's when everything changes.
• 42:18
  It did again. It was very well done.
• 42:22
  I almost think we should name this podcast, uh, The Midpoint.
• 42:25
  That could be like our sister show. We'll spin off.
• 42:29
  Yeah,
• 42:30
  The Midpoint. We only talk about the midpoint of each movie.
• 42:35
  No, we talk about the midpoint of the, of the episode that we, that we did.
• 42:38
  Oh,
• 42:39
  here's the middle of the movie. Sometimes it's the end of the deep dive because some of y'all talk.
• 42:45
  What?
• 42:46
  Some of, some of us might want to talk about 25 top movies like early on.
• 42:51
  Well, that, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:54
  All right. So go ahead, Terry.
• 42:56
  I have a— I'm wondering, so we're talking about the flashback that she has with like seeing the worm's like life cycle, I guess.
• 43:04
  Yeah.
• 43:04
  Um, what's interesting is she doesn't just get that, she gets Michael Rooker's perspective as well.
• 43:09
  Yes.
• 43:09
  I'm wondering if that's something new with the worm, or if that's like, like Michael Rooker's like personality is also strong that it's like competing with the worm. Because as we watch the movie, it's very much like the worm's taking over and doing its thing, but there's a strong presence of Michael Rooker still in the worm. It didn't take him over completely, and I don't know if that's normal for the worm or if that's something like it's never been to a planet like this where the— because on the planet we see, it's like rats or whatever looking at, you know. Yeah. I'm not sure if they're even sentient here. I'm wondering if it's something— it's like something different because it's, you know, a human being. They're sentient, they have a higher brain function. And like the way at the end when they're talking, she's like kind of talking to Michael Rooker, but I also feel like she's talking to the worm, saying like how lonely you are, you know, you're out there all alone. And it really seems like it's being moved. I'm like, I'm wondering if this is like a new experience for the worm or not. You know what I mean? Like, if it's like—
• 44:06
  And I don't think it's tied in just to Michael Rooker, cuz that girl gets trapped in the car and her family comes down. They're like, come on, it's family fun day. They're just like continuing their—
• 44:14
  That's true. That's true.
• 44:15
  Their whole conversation. So I think it's more just the fact that like, it's, it's able to infect humans who then it can like take over and like, it's actually got a voice to speak with and stuff like that. As opposed to whatever, like the weird rat things and all that. It was kind of, you know, rolling through their planet quickly.
• 44:32
  What if this alien being's only goal— because it's a very solitary creature that goes from planet to planet destroying them— its only goal is to find some form of connection so it doesn't have to be alone for the rest of its life?
• 44:52
  Maybe.
• 44:53
  And when it doesn't find it, it's like, well, fuck this. It just destroys the planet and it gets to Earth. And yeah, it's destroying a lot of things, but I mean, that's just how it operates, right? That's its biology. That's how it— that's how it functions.
• 45:05
  Yeah,
• 45:05
  but now it's found some way to communicate in a connection because it really got into getting down with Elizabeth Banks.
• 45:14
  Yeah, it's probably the first time it's ever done something like that.
• 45:17
  Yeah, and it's just like, whoa, I'm loving this shit.
• 45:21
  And so I'm not blaming it. I'm not blaming it at all.
• 45:24
  Yeah. So now it wants to be part of this where,
• 45:27
  yeah,
• 45:27
  it could take any form and still get it on with Elizabeth Banks.
• 45:31
  Yeah. And it's, it's going about the whole thing of like, it decides it doesn't just want to, I guess, impregnate her with the, the extra worms. It goes and finds that other girl.
• 45:42
  Yeah. It wants her to be normal. Yeah.
• 45:45
  Yes.
• 45:45
  I think it— I don't know if it actually wants her to be normal, but it wants to wait until it's fully ready for her to like be brought into the fold at some point in time. And by the way, this is now— so we also watched The Faculty like several months back.
• 45:59
  Uh-huh.
• 46:00
  Um, this is a much better version of the hive mind thing.
• 46:03
  Oh gosh, yes.
• 46:04
  That first scene when they— when, um, the guy Wally gets up and he's like, hey sugar plum, and like starts talking, and, and you realize that it's, it's still the main—
• 46:13
  Kind of sounds like Michael Rooker a little bit. Like, he did a really good Michael Rooker impersonation.
• 46:18
  And, and then the next person over starts talking, like the conversation just keeps bouncing from each one of them.
• 46:25
  Yeah,
• 46:26
  I really enjoyed that, and I thought that was a really cool way to like do the whole thing. And then, but towards the end, like you get like, it's just really like when there's just like little heads that are sticking out from the main mass of the thing and they're all just like each taking it. Oh
• 46:41
  God,
• 46:42
  one of those heads was Sean Gunn. I don't know if you noticed it.
• 46:45
  He was— oh, he was one of the heads.
• 46:47
  He was one of the people getting sucked into the blob, and it made me laugh when I saw him.
• 46:50
  Have you guys ever seen the movie Society?
• 46:53
  No.
• 46:54
  It has very strong Society vibes. Body horror where people— the flesh is like melding into each other, they're stretching out and looking all crazy. Like, I hadn't seen— when I watched this movie the first time, Slither, I had not seen Society. But now watching it again post-Society, I'm like, wow, I wonder if Shane was gonna have seen that movie and was like, I think I'm gonna do a little bit of that in this, because Society is very like It's disgusting, like the stuff that it does in it. Like, the practical effects in there are just so good. You would love the goopiness, Derek. It's so nasty. Um, and this is like pulling from that, like that vibe, I feel like, quite a bit, which I like. I think that's cool.
• 47:33
  I, I— the, the one scene where the one guy kind of just like walks over and strips down, just lays into the thing and just starts— yes, like melting into it and becoming one with it. I was like, oh, that's No, that's not for me. No.
• 47:47
  I bet it's nice and warm in there though.
• 47:49
  And anytime those, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't like to be too warm either.
• 47:54
  Oh, okay. I
• 47:55
  don't, I don't cuddle with my wife cuz I get too warm. Uh, I would not wanna do that. Also the, uh, man, the, those weird tentacle things when they would come out of him, uh, outta Michael Rooker, just, oh Lord.
• 48:07
  Oh, when he split that one yokel cop in half.
• 48:12
  in Twain.
• 48:12
  Yeah, in the middle of that field, I was like, oh, that was well done because it was like very subtle. And then it's like,
• 48:19
  I mean, yeah, at first you think you just slapped him, but then it's like, oh no, you got—
• 48:23
  I think I thought at first that like maybe he like, we were gonna see like, you know, part of his head slide off or something like that. Um, instead it's just like straight down the middle, but he was
• 48:31
  bisected.
• 48:33
  Like the whole, um, the whole like sexual nature of the those 2 like things coming out of his chest. I just— especially, especially the one when he's trying to get Nathan Fillion at the end and they keep showing all the different like heads that are attached and they're all like, ah, like— and I'm like, oh, this is so just nasty.
• 48:54
  It has a very sexual like undertone with the stat, you know, you're like penetrating them and like injecting and then, I don't know, not necessarily impregnated but they're like chained, you know. Yeah, I guess they're kind of impregnated. I don't really know how it works But yeah, they, uh, it's very disturbing.
• 49:09
  So whoever, I think whoever he's, because he's just like unloading like little worms fully into those and then they just want to eat meat all day long.
• 49:16
  Well, he's got like different like classes. There's like the, the eating class who like get big, big, big, and then they explode with worms. And then he's got the people who he just injects to become the worms, then infect the others who become, I guess, like a soldier ants or whatever, if you wanted to consider it like that. And then they are running around. Just capturing people and stuff, spitting on them.
• 49:39
  Because like when she shoots Wally in the head and the worm pops right out of his brain, like it— you know, you've got the ones that are going and affecting the brain, but then he has the other ones that basically he's just making them into, you know, just little incubators basically for what looked like pieces of meat. Actually, also the— when you got to see the worms up close, they looked like little sentient steaks.
• 50:03
  Yes,
• 50:03
  yes. Oh, that one dropping into the water while the lady— while the girl was taking a bath. I was like, oh, that's gross.
• 50:09
  Yeah, yeah. I think the scene that made me laugh the most was when, um, because the mayor in this movie— this is from the opening clip— the guy is demanding the Mr. Pibb. He's so annoying. He's so angry. Like, even the first time we see the mayor is him yelling at some guy, get the fuck out
• 50:22
  of the
• 50:22
  way! He's like stopped in the road and he's yelling at him.
• 50:26
  Then the lady's just like, morning, mayor.
• 50:28
  Yeah. And then, um, the ending where he's like been infected and he's one of these people who needs to eat meat because he's gonna eventually give birth to all these worms. He goes to Nathan Fillion, he's like, kill me! And Nathan Fillion does not hesitate for a second. He just shoots him right in the head and keeps moving. Yeah, because he can't stand him.
• 50:45
  Because he can't stand him at all. Nobody really can stand the mayor.
• 50:48
  Yeah, yeah, I thought that was hilarious.
• 50:50
  The, the mayor being that despicable of a human being and then getting his comeuppance at the end was good.
• 50:57
  Yep.
• 50:57
  The massive thing of like all the worms like going and attacking that one household, and it's just like everywhere she turns there's more and more of them coming at her. It's— it reminded me of like in, uh, Alien: Romulus when the— that one part where all the, the head, uh, the, the facehuggers all break out and start chasing them.
• 51:15
  Yeah, yeah.
• 51:15
  There's just so much tension because you're like, oh my God, there's no way she's gonna be able to avoid these things forever.
• 51:20
  Yeah, but then she gets in the car and I'm like, well they're not going to be able to break in, and they can't. And then they're— then they're— and here, here's something I really, really, really, really appreciated about this movie as a horror movie. It wasn't afraid— and I know people have problems with this— with animals and pets being killed, but it wasn't afraid of that. And I— there, here's another deep dive fact I didn't put in there. James Gunn has really shied away from like practical gross scenes, and he had a problem with this movie because the, the dog scene made him sick. Oh, which I understand, being a dog lover and all that kind of stuff, right? But in the movie, he didn't shy away from it.
• 52:01
  It's the main plot point.
• 52:02
  It's the main plot point. The deer, the coyote, the, the— all these animals being destroyed, fine. But he also didn't shy away from kids.
• 52:13
  No. Yeah,
• 52:14
  getting wormed in this movie. And that was one of the creepier moments,
• 52:20
  that the 2 little sisters—
• 52:21
  like, being a father of 2 young daughters, like, yeah, just imagining that, you know. It's like, oh God bless America. That is, uh, that's not— but he didn't shy away from it. That's like, see, you know when movies, like, you feel it like they're going and then they just kind of ease back from something because they're afraid to, like, be too offensive.
• 52:41
  They don't want to lose anybody, so we better—
• 52:43
  yeah, they probably got a note where it's like, oh, this is too much, you know? Like, this, this movie doesn't like lose anything by doing that. It's better by doing those things. It makes it way scarier.
• 52:55
  Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean, I hate seeing— it makes me sad when I see, you know, animals hurt in movies, but that's the point. Sure, that's the point of it.
• 53:02
  Like, I mean, you also got— you also have to let Nathan Fillion save that girl from the deer.
• 53:06
  Yes, well, exactly.
• 53:09
  Yes, Nathan Fillion definitely saved that woman, not the other way around.
• 53:13
  So I don't know if it's like this where y'all are at, because I know, Keith, you're down in Deep South, and Terry, you're down in South, but up here, up here in Wisconsin, we're all about shooting stuff, particularly deer. And but Nathan Fillion's, uh, perspective of like, I just don't get the point. Yeah, it's very much me.
• 53:36
  Yeah, he's like, who would want to shoot a cute little deer?
• 53:38
  I'm not going to begrudge y'all from doing what you like to do. I just don't get it. And that's how I am. And then he gets that crazy, crazy fucked up deer to attack him.
• 53:47
  The most horrifying deer.
• 53:48
  He's like, I'm gonna have to kill this deer now.
• 53:50
  How did that deer even get in there?
• 53:52
  I don't know, but it was awesome.
• 53:54
  It is funny because at the beginning, there's the line he says, like, I just would never— can't imagine shooting a poor little deer. And it was like he gets jumped by this horrible thing.
• 54:02
  And he's not the one that kills it.
• 54:05
  Well, yeah, depending on who tells the story. Yeah.
• 54:08
  Yes, exactly.
• 54:08
  I, I do like that part as well. He's like, thank you, but just so you know, I'll be telling people something else.
• 54:15
  And then one more thing I really enjoyed is they made a big deal of it when they're getting all armed up to go out and find Carl at the next farm over. The, the one dude's like, what about this grenade from the so-and-sos that we're gonna blow up something? And it's like, nah, it's too much. And then he gets the grenade at the end and then it, it doesn't— it, it's not the, uh, thing that saves the day. I really like
• 54:39
  that they still used it, but it wasn't— yeah, it did not pan out the way they thought.
• 54:43
  Yeah, it got tossed in the pool and blew up the pool.
• 54:45
  Honestly, it wasn't as big of an explosion as I expected.
• 54:48
  No, so it probably wouldn't have taken the thing out very much.
• 54:50
  Well, I don't know, it was underneath that— I mean, that was a fancy nice pool. It was probably like 10 feet deep there, so true, a lot of water on
• 54:55
  top of that.
• 54:57
  Grenade.
• 54:57
  I did like that, the grenade. Yeah, just immediately just like not gonna work. Yeah,
• 55:02
  like, oh, here's the grenade, it's gonna save the day. Nope, propane. Oh, Hank Hill probably loved this one.
• 55:07
  Yeah.
• 55:08
  Oh God, he'd probably be sad they wasted all that propane though.
• 55:10
  Or, or his narrow urethra became— what? Grew 2 inches or 2 sizes larger like the Grinch's heart. And as he, you know, got like how the worm said to
• 55:27
  fit that thing in there.
• 55:29
  Yeah.
• 55:31
  No, that's because at first I was just like, that's not gonna fit. And then it did. I was like, oh, okay. I don't know if that's how it works. Hank Hill's urethra is not getting bigger when he sees propane.
• 55:42
  Oh yes, it is.
• 55:42
  It's like the Grinch's heart. That's all I'm saying.
• 55:46
  It grew 3 sizes that day.
• 55:48
  Yeah, that's Hank Hill's urethra grew when he saw propane is the hero.
• 55:53
  Big open mouth grin on that thing. Yeah. All right. That's an interesting image.
• 56:03
  It's
• 56:04
  just like the Grinch. Makes sense. It does.
• 56:09
  Bobby, Bobby, let me tell you about propane.
• 56:12
  Yep.
• 56:12
  Be careful, Bobby. If you see any propane, you might need to be careful.
• 56:16
  Your urethra. And I imagine that's got to be hereditary. So poor Bobby.
• 56:20
  Oh, he's definitely got that that gene.
• 56:22
  That seems that seems like that seems like that seems like every other generation.
• 56:26
  Oh, you think it skips generations?
• 56:27
  Maybe. Yeah,
• 56:28
  yeah, yeah. Bobby, he probably never told Bobby, and then Bobby's son's gonna be having these weird issues. Wow.
• 56:36
  All right. Did we do it?
• 56:39
  I think so.
• 56:40
  Did we get through Slither? Was there anything else we need to talk about?
• 56:44
  A lot more.
• 56:44
  This movie was just. Oh, I don't like using the, the term fun for movies.
• 56:49
  Yeah,
• 56:50
  because it's like, it doesn't— it's like movie watching, like I enjoy it, but it doesn't evoke fun, right? Like fun is like riding a roller coaster.
• 56:59
  It's like entertainment.
• 57:00
  Yeah, but it's like this movie was just hit all the right notes for me and I really enjoyed it.
• 57:06
  It has that specific vibe of like comedy and horror that I kind of really enjoy with Like stuff like Evil Dead, or like even the newer Evil Deads, they're a lot more horror-focused, but they still have that kind of over-the-top vibe a lot of times. I just really like when horror movies do that because it's a nice contrast from like the really intense stuff, and then there's, oh, I can laugh about it a little bit, you know? Like, that's nice. That's nice.
• 57:28
  Also, the, uh, and that's the other thing is, so like, you know, they got these worms going everywhere, like, oh man, this is just gonna take over everywhere. Well, as soon as they kill the main thing, like, the whole thing's done. Like, boom. But also, that town is just a bunch of dead people.
• 57:40
  Yes. How do you explain that?
• 57:44
  Yeah, I love that they come out and just corpses all over the place. It's like, well, that hospital— that town is 10 miles down the road. It's got a hospital with a green steeple. Let's go there. I like that. Oh, and Terry, before we move on, I had to look up Society. You know who the star of Society is?
• 58:02
  Oh, I can't remember who.
• 58:04
  A person by the name of Billy Warlock.
• 58:07
  Oh, his name's amazing.
• 58:09
  Yes, Bill Warlock.
• 58:12
  I wish my last name was Warlock.
• 58:15
  Me too. I wish your last name was Warlock as well.
• 58:18
  Terry Warlock. We could just go with that from now on. That'd be nice.
• 58:22
  All right, what do we think of Slither?
• 58:27
  Uh, the wheels made up for a lot of bad, bad activity.
• 58:31
  Man, the wheel hit hard this month. I like it.
• 58:33
  Yeah, it did good. I would say I agree. I like Slither. It's a good movie. It held up. I liked it last time I watched it. I liked it this time I watched it. Sean Gunn— or not Sean, well, James Gunn specifically— is a very talented man, and he does a good job. A unique voice that carries between genres, which I like.
• 58:48
  He does have a small cameo as well in the movie himself.
• 58:51
  Isn't he that teacher?
• 58:52
  Yep, he's the teacher there that Michael Rooker got all angry about.
• 58:56
  Yeah, that's good. It's a good movie, I think.
• 58:58
  Agreed. I really enjoyed it. Loved it quite a bit. This is, this is like a top-tier movie we watched, I think.
• 59:04
  Wow.
• 59:05
  Is it a great movie? No. But did I enjoy the shit out of it? I did.
• 59:10
  Yes. I wouldn't— yeah, I wouldn't call it top tier, but it's definitely good. It's very good.
• 59:15
  It's very— it's one of the better movies we've watched.
• 59:17
  It reminds me of like Alligator. We all like really enjoyed it.
• 59:21
  Yes,
• 59:21
  it's not a great movie, but it hit and This movie is way better than
• 59:25
  Alligator,
• 59:25
  but it hit a lot of like— but Alligator also hit off like a lot, a lot of the checkboxes of things that we really all enjoy. And, and again, it's just not a great— not like the world's greatest movie, but like perfect for us.
• 59:39
  It's kind of like, yeah, Xander Cage Returns or whatever.
• 59:42
  All right, what did the— what did the— what did the internet think?
• 59:45
  What's that?
• 59:46
  I was saying, what did the internet think? I was moving on. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good thing. Comment.
• 59:51
  Well, we know what we thought. What did the internet have to say? On April 11th, 2006, Poodle-11 had this to say. The best monster B-movie in years. If you're a fan of B-movie monsters or like a generous dose of humor with your horror, Slither is just the ticket. The story is fairly basic as monster movies go, but what makes this film really special is the clever script, the good acting, especially from Nathan Fillion and Michael Rooker, and the fan-freaking-tastic special effects. It's definitely not a film for the weak of stomach. It does actually earn the R rating. It's true. But for those who can gut it out, forgive the pun, it's a fun-filled roller coaster ride of comedy, horror, and great tributes to classics in the genre too. The film is totally worth seeing and is completely worth spending the money to see it in the theaters. That it hasn't done more business than it has is almost criminal. I'd hate to see this instant classic go ignored in the venue it's best suited to. 2 found it helpful, 2 not so much. 10 out of 10.
• 1:01:05
  I think you would have to find a theater that, like, was really gonna have the type of crowd that you wanted to go see this movie with.
• 1:01:14
  Yeah,
• 1:01:15
  for it to work out is like—
• 1:01:16
  yeah, you didn't think people that like— yeah, get it.
• 1:01:19
  I think this, this movie is played at my local independent theater for Halloween last year. They have always had like a bunch of horror movies, and then I think last October they had a— they, they, they did Slither.
• 1:01:30
  That'd be worth going to see. I'd go see it.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah, yeah, I wish I would have.
• 1:01:34
  You missed the boat, Terry.
• 1:01:35
  I know. Well, And someday I'll find out how to go back in time and I'll fix all my mistakes.
• 1:01:40
  One day.
• 1:01:40
  Especially that mistake.
• 1:01:42
  Well, until that day comes. Not to be outdone, Time Lord Crisp had this to say. Absolutely not worth the good review on this site.
• 1:01:55
  Okay.
• 1:01:56
  I read the positive reviews for this film on this site, in parentheses, prior to going to the movie, and I was not impressed at all after viewing.
• 1:02:06
  Hmm.
• 1:02:06
  I think the alien worms have turned you all into zombies. Are you all friends? I agree this movie is decent homage to the genre, but what we really need is a good new horror film and not another parody. Hmm. Hollywood keeps making bad movies because people go and see them. Well, people did not go see this one. The sheer number of positive reviews for this film on this site are proof that you will swallow anything, dot dot dot dot.
• 1:02:43
  Even worms?
• 1:02:44
  Including alien worm ripoff movies formerly called Night of the Creeps, which was also annoying almost twenty years ago.
• 1:02:55
  Wow!
• 1:02:56
  This is the state of the world, I suppose. Thumbs down. I'm guessing that all these folks avidly watching those dreadful Sci-Fi Channel original films, which this picture is most like than anything else. 4 found it helpful.
• 1:03:18
  Wow.
• 1:03:18
  10, not so much. 1 out of 10.
• 1:03:21
  This is not Sci-Fi Channel original film quality.
• 1:03:25
  Not at all. Not at all.
• 1:03:27
  Way better.
• 1:03:28
  Way better. I agree. I really enjoyed this movie.
• 1:03:31
  It was a good pick. It was a good pick.
• 1:03:34
  Thank you, wheel.
• 1:03:36
  Yep, the wheel knows what's best.
• 1:03:38
  And thank you, Jenna Fischer, for being in Dewey Cox.
• 1:03:41
  Yes. And thank you, Derek, for picking it.
• 1:03:44
  I think— you know what, I've been doing this— we've been doing this show for how many? This is the 40th episode. 41st episode? No, 40th episode. Finally, somebody said thank you.
• 1:03:55
  You know what? You're welcome.
• 1:04:00
  I'm like, I'm like the President of the United States. Thank me, goddamn it.
• 1:04:04
  Yeah, I just want recognition for everything.
• 1:04:06
  I want recognition for all the things I do.
• 1:04:08
  And you do a lot, Derek.
• 1:04:10
  Ah, goddamn it. You're right, Terry. All right. You know what else is right?
• 1:04:14
  What?
• 1:04:15
  Terry. And he is going to— well, wait, we can't do that yet. We got housekeeping. We got, we got note. Keith loves his bookkeeping and ranking.
• 1:04:26
  That's true.
• 1:04:27
  Those are things that he— I've known Keith for a long time. He really enjoys ranking things and keeping notes about the rankings.
• 1:04:35
  I do. Even, even, even, even I have to occasionally go through and go through a bunch of different notebooks to find all the, the notes I put on our rankings so I could put them into a little spreadsheet for us.
• 1:04:46
  Oh, oh, and there's a spreadsheet involved?
• 1:04:48
  Yeah, a spreadsheet. Oh, that's amazing.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, I put, I put everything onto one spreadsheet, but I had to like look through a bunch of different notebooks. notebooks because I couldn't remember where I put all of the things. Oh my goodness, there are— there was at least one episode I had to go back and listen to like the last few minutes of because I couldn't remember what we did.
• 1:05:04
  Our numbers increased by one. Yeah.
• 1:05:07
  All right, all right. So, uh, we've got Eddie and the Cruisers, we've got Dewey Cox, we've got Popstar, and we have Slither.
• 1:05:14
  Yes. Uh, I'm ready, I'm ready to go.
• 1:05:17
  Fire away, Derek.
• 1:05:18
  Slither is number one for
• 1:05:20
  Okay, all right, let's get picked.
• 1:05:21
  The next one is tough. It's like a, it's like a neck-and-neck race, but I'm going— and this is strictly due to personal preference of songs— Popstar, Never Stop Never Stopping, and then Dewey Cox. The biggest part about Dewey Cox is I just didn't laugh like I wanted to.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah,
• 1:05:36
  Popstar, I did laugh quite a bit. And then Eddie and the Cruisers, I— which I liked enough, it just was the 4th in this, in this running, that's all.
• 1:05:45
  Yeah. I'm, I'm gonna agree with you. I'm Slither number 1 for me. Uh, I'm gonna go Dewey Cox number 2 because I did laugh quite a bit at it. Number 3 is Eddie and the Cruisers, and, uh, number 4 is Popstar Never Stops Hopping.
• 1:05:58
  For me, I think I'm gonna go Dewey Cox as number 1. I think that was my favorite we watched. And then I would go Slither, and then, hmm, I think I might go Eddie and the Cruisers next, and then Popstar.
• 1:06:11
  You guys have clearly not been singing the Bin Laden song all week.
• 1:06:14
  I have not. Unfortunately, I have not.
• 1:06:17
  No,
• 1:06:17
  but all good movies, I feel like, in this series. Not perfect, some of them, but I think all decent.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, there was a single movie I was mad that I watched.
• 1:06:25
  Yep, which is always a good sign of a category.
• 1:06:28
  I agree, I agree. It's— yeah, speaking of categories.
• 1:06:31
  Exactly. Yeah, we got a good category.
• 1:06:33
  Category, and that is falling squarely on the shoulders of Terry.
• 1:06:38
  Oh. Yes, indeed it is. And we're getting very close to, uh, Halloween.
• 1:06:44
  We are dangerously close.
• 1:06:46
  October is around when these— this episode will come out, so I figured let's do something Halloween related.
• 1:06:52
  Which I think it's perfect that we wrapped up with Slither on this one. Kind of, kind of
• 1:06:56
  kicks us right into Halloween season. Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Yes. So this is going to be a little different than we usually do. Let me just share my screen.
• 1:07:07
  Is it still gonna— is it still gonna—
• 1:07:08
  You're gonna share your screen? Oh my God, this is like unprecedented.
• 1:07:11
  Oh, like, is this still gonna allow for any movie?
• 1:07:13
  There's choices involved. This is my— the idea— before I share my screen, the idea is basically, you know, when you go to a house and do trick-or-treat, you never know what you're gonna get exactly, but at least you can choose the house.
• 1:07:25
  Yes.
• 1:07:26
  Could be big full-size candy bars, could be, uh, 2 nickels wrapped in foil.
• 1:07:31
  Everybody close your eyes and I'll tell you when to open them.
• 1:07:34
  Eyes are closed.
• 1:07:35
  Let's know when we can open them.
• 1:07:36
  All right, you can open them.
• 1:07:37
  Finally, if you film trick-or-treat.
• 1:07:39
  Okay, there's a spooky skeleton face pumpkin. All right,
• 1:07:44
  so here
• 1:07:46
  is Terry's got a deck for this. Great.
• 1:07:49
  Oh my gosh,
• 1:07:51
  what you're choosing for this week is your genre. I've hand-selected several films in each genre. There's 12 genres. And you're going to pick a genre, and then we're going to use the Wheel of Doom to decide what movie is picked for you.
• 1:08:07
  Oh my goodness, this is the wildest thing I've ever heard.
• 1:08:13
  So, all
• 1:08:14
  right, all
• 1:08:14
  right.
• 1:08:16
  First genre, ghosts.
• 1:08:17
  Ghosts, okay.
• 1:08:18
  Second genre, possession.
• 1:08:20
  All right.
• 1:08:21
  Third genre, zombies.
• 1:08:23
  I can't believe I'm watching a PowerPoint.
• 1:08:25
  Fourth genre, slashers.
• 1:08:27
  Uh-huh.
• 1:08:29
  5th genre, Christmas.
• 1:08:30
  Okay, weird.
• 1:08:31
  6th genre, sci-fi.
• 1:08:33
  Uh-huh.
• 1:08:34
  7th genre, based off literature. I made a typo, based of literature. Okay. Didn't do any spell check on this. Uh, next genre, J-horror.
• 1:08:43
  Oh, J-horror! Oh my gosh, Terry.
• 1:08:45
  Next is werewolves.
• 1:08:47
  Interesting.
• 1:08:48
  Then vampire.
• 1:08:50
  Uh-huh.
• 1:08:50
  Australia.
• 1:08:53
  And
• 1:08:54
  finally, public domain.
• 1:08:57
  Public domain. Now the, the movies are in public domain?
• 1:09:00
  Yes.
• 1:09:01
  Well, or I mean, like Winnie the Pooh movie.
• 1:09:04
  It could mean maybe both. Okay, fun surprise.
• 1:09:08
  All right, so I got— I guess I gotta pull up the Wheel of Doom here, don't I?
• 1:09:13
  Yes, yes. And so, you know, it's un— I, you know, I'm supposed to be the first one, and I thought it was unfair that since I hand-selected all the movies So what I did is I picked my genre already, but I had a guy, one of my guys, pick 3 movies in the genre. So I have no idea what he picked.
• 1:09:34
  How do you not know? Is it a sealed envelope?
• 1:09:38
  I shared this PowerPoint with him and I told him to fill out the 3 movies. Oh my goodness. And I have not looked at 'em since he's told me he's done it. So I don't have any idea.
• 1:09:47
  Okay. What, so what genre did you pick?
• 1:09:49
  I wanted to go something classic, something simple. I went slashers.
• 1:09:52
  Okay.
• 1:09:52
  Okay.
• 1:09:53
  So I have no idea. Like I said, I have no idea what's about to come.
• 1:09:56
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:09:57
  For this one, the rest I have, I picked everything. And you know, to be fair, once again, I picked stuff I have seen, some stuff that was recommended via the internet. And yeah, anyways, but so slashers, I have no idea. Here we go.
• 1:10:09
  I like that we might need a whole extra episode just for this.
• 1:10:11
  Haunt from 2019.
• 1:10:13
  Never heard of it.
• 1:10:14
  I don't know what that is, but okay. I'm excited to potentially watch it. Alice, Sweet Alice from 1976. I think I've actually may have seen this before. I have no idea what that is either. And then finally, Chopping Mall, 1986. Okay, interesting.
• 1:10:32
  I think— okay, I know what we're all probably rooting for here.
• 1:10:35
  So that's our 3 movies right there.
• 1:10:37
  Terry, this is amazing.
• 1:10:39
  Thank you. I put a lot of thought into this.
• 1:10:41
  All right, so I've taken Haunt, Alice, Sweet Alice, and Chopping Mall and put them on the Wheel of Doom. I've doubled them up a few times just so it's not 3 big blocks. There's a 1 in 3 chance. All right, here we go. I'm gonna hit the wheel. Here we go.
• 1:11:01
  Alice Sweet Alice.
• 1:11:03
  Alice Sweet Alice.
• 1:11:04
  Interesting. Okay, I think I've seen this, but I don't know that for sure. So actually, you know what? I think I'm thinking of the movie Let's Scare Jessica to Death. I think that's the movie I'm thinking of. So I have not seen this. I'm pretty sure
• 1:11:16
  I'd never even heard of it. What year is it from?
• 1:11:18
  1976, I believe.
• 1:11:20
  It's old. It's a slasher too, huh?
• 1:11:22
  I guess so.
• 1:11:23
  Wow. All right, Alice, this is gonna be a weird month.
• 1:11:28
  Indeed. Yes, yes. But I thought it'd be fun. I tried— I wanted to do something with a little like risk, a little danger.
• 1:11:35
  There's danger associated with it. And Terry, you're gonna have to give me the list because I choose next. I need—
• 1:11:40
  Yes, I'll send the list in our Messenger.
• 1:11:44
  Now, can I, can I choose slashers as well?
• 1:11:48
  Oh, hmm. I had a— I had picked 3 other slasher movies before I was like, you know what, that may not be fair.
• 1:11:54
  I'm not gonna pick that, but I'm just— if I did, would Alice Sweet Alice be off the list and just be Haunted Chopping Mall?
• 1:11:59
  I think the idea is once the, the genre has been picked, it can no longer be picked.
• 1:12:05
  All right, I like that. Okay, wow, wow, my mind is blown.
• 1:12:12
  No,
• 1:12:13
  I'm gonna be up all night thinking about stuff now.
• 1:12:15
  This is the same guy who's my Giallo guy, so I'm—
• 1:12:18
  oh, is your Giallo guy coming up with this?
• 1:12:20
  Mm-hmm. Shout out to Dan if he listens. He's one of my friends from The Screening Room, an old podcast I did.
• 1:12:27
  All right.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah, shout out to him for helping me out, giving me some slasher movies.
• 1:12:30
  If you survive this night, nothing will scare you again.
• 1:12:34
  Wow. All right, that's good news.
• 1:12:36
  Yeah, thank you.
• 1:12:37
  I'll be a man without fear, Daredevil style, walking around.
• 1:12:45
  Blinded. Well, we did it. We got through it all. We only have one thing left to do, and that's to end this the way we end everything.
• 1:13:12
  Too bad your chances are slim.
• 1:13:37
  He's not too easily scared.
• 1:13:39
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