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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, what's up.
- 0:00Speaker 2: This is DJ pro Style, and this is Pennydellas and
- 0:03Speaker 2: this is Teach Me Something, brought to you by Berkeley College.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome back to
- 0:11Speaker 1: teach Me Something.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Yes with Penny Della.
- 0:15Speaker 1: And DJ Prostyle, presented by Berkeley College.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Of course, no other no last.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Two thousand college and twenty.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Six twenty twenty six. Did you make your vision board?
- 0:26Speaker 1: I did not make a vision board yet because I
- 0:27Speaker 1: knew we were going to have the special guest today
- 0:29Speaker 1: that was going to explain to me exactly how I
- 0:31Speaker 1: should do a vision board.
- 0:32Speaker 2: I love this. Should we break up the magazines and
- 0:34Speaker 2: the scissors and all the crafties?
- 0:35Speaker 1: I want to do my vision board correctly?
- 0:37Speaker 2: I love it. It's going to be fun. We are
- 0:42Speaker 2: so excited to have this guest with us today. We
- 0:45Speaker 2: have Global Strategist Board of Trustee member for Berkeley College.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Also Berkeley College International Studies alumna. She just her accolades,
- 0:59Speaker 2: SPAN would be here for days. She's also the president
- 1:03Speaker 2: of the New York Africa Chamber of Commerce. Let's give
- 1:07Speaker 2: a round of applause Global Studs, bootsy Mazco and Building.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I feel like in the presence
- 1:17Speaker 3: of greatness new Year, this is going to be a
- 1:26Speaker 3: great year for this show. I've been inspired by you
- 1:30Speaker 3: all DJ pro Style. It's an honor to be on
- 1:33Speaker 3: your show, Penny, as always, it's great to be and
- 1:38Speaker 3: you know it's been a long time coming.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Thanks for having me here. So I'm like amongst living legends.
- 1:45Speaker 2: You know, I feel so special. But let's let's speak
- 1:49Speaker 2: about the origins of your story. You came to the
- 1:52Speaker 2: US as an international scholar and you wanted to expand
- 1:57Speaker 2: on your education, and your journey began at Berkeley College
- 2:01Speaker 2: with education and in the workforce on Wall Street, and
- 2:07Speaker 2: it evolved into global development and entrepreneurship. What was if
- 2:12Speaker 2: you could define that moment where you decided to pivot
- 2:16Speaker 2: toward purpose driven leadership.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Wow.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Yes, I did come here as an international students many
- 2:27Speaker 3: moons ago. This is my twenty sixth Yeah. I believe
- 2:30Speaker 3: in the US so glimbia along of it in any
- 2:33Speaker 3: place in the world, and Berkeley was very kind to me.
- 2:37Speaker 2: I was.
- 2:40Speaker 3: BBA management and had a minor in marketing and having
- 2:48Speaker 3: started off on Wall Street, I mean thanks to our
- 2:51Speaker 3: internship program. I worked on Wall Street, Smith Bonney, which
- 2:55Speaker 3: was Poto's City group, and there was a top intern
- 2:59Speaker 3: there while I was there, and unfortunately I came out
- 3:02Speaker 3: of I graduated at the time when there was a
- 3:04Speaker 3: hiring freeze. But like I say, it's always important for
- 3:09Speaker 3: people to leave a mark wherever you go. Because the
- 3:13Speaker 3: administrator of Smith Bond was like, we don't have an
- 3:16Speaker 3: opening here. I opened to any department of city and
- 3:22Speaker 3: I was like, yes, so there was an opening at
- 3:25Speaker 3: City Bank. But let me move back a little bit. Yes,
- 3:29Speaker 3: the person who opened the door was a receptionist who
- 3:31Speaker 3: I used to say good morning to every day. She's
- 3:35Speaker 3: the one who spoke to the administrator, so you never know,
- 3:38Speaker 3: never know, I will open that door for you.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Amazing and so she.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Spoke to the head of HR for the entire city group,
- 3:45Speaker 3: and then I was hired at an assistant manager level.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Unfortunately just before around the time of my graduation. Before
- 3:53Speaker 3: my graduation walk, but after I'd learned about my results,
- 3:56Speaker 3: my dad passed away suddenly and he was my north star,
- 4:00Speaker 3: and so I became a workaholic during that time to
- 4:04Speaker 3: deal with the to cope with the loss, and then
- 4:07Speaker 3: I founded fashion Indeed, with my business partner at the time,
- 4:12Speaker 3: Daniel Santiago and who was also a Berkeley student, and
- 4:17Speaker 3: it became one of the first fashion blogs and Time
- 4:21Speaker 3: Out New York named it one of the top three
- 4:23Speaker 3: blogs in New York. And then this moped into one
- 4:27Speaker 3: of the first fashion technology companies. As a result of that,
- 4:31Speaker 3: we were like I was volunteering at the un while
- 4:35Speaker 3: in college, I was volunteering with different organizations like even
- 4:39Speaker 3: Susan G. Coleman. How about we pair our company with
- 4:44Speaker 3: these nonprofits like Fashion and Delivers Food in Kids in Distress, Communities,
- 4:51Speaker 3: Action against Hunger, And then we created campaigns for Action
- 4:55Speaker 3: against Hunger, pairing fifteen celebrity chefs with fifteen fashion designers
- 5:01Speaker 3: to create one of kind chef jackets for auction. So
- 5:04Speaker 3: that's we said, let's do good by and get good
- 5:12Speaker 3: so we you and then they in turn marketed us.
- 5:16Speaker 3: So that's how we went viral, and we had at
- 5:19Speaker 3: a peak around two thousand ands five, two thousand and six,
- 5:22Speaker 3: we had about a million viewers on our websites a month.
- 5:27Speaker 3: So those are the things that it was. You know,
- 5:30Speaker 3: when they say during crisis, may be there may be opportunities.
- 5:35Speaker 3: That's a classic example of what happened in my case.
- 5:39Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's beautiful, seeing a gap and saying we
- 5:42Speaker 2: can fill this gap, and then taking passion and meeting
- 5:45Speaker 2: with purpose. That's beautiful, Thank.
- 5:48Speaker 3: You, and just working with others, just like, let's build together,
- 5:51Speaker 3: you know, working together, that's.
- 5:52Speaker 1: What it's all about. That's what it's all about.
- 5:55Speaker 2: I love that it's it's network.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And networking is so important, right we tell you and
- 6:00Speaker 1: everyone who's been obviously on this show, and even people
- 6:03Speaker 1: we talked on the side, I always says, it's so
- 6:05Speaker 1: so much of becoming successful has to do with relationships,
- 6:09Speaker 1: who you know and networking. And just like you said,
- 6:12Speaker 1: like the receptionists open the door for you, and look
- 6:15Speaker 1: where you have never known, who's going to give you
- 6:18Speaker 1: the opportunity. Actually you won't believe it.
- 6:20Speaker 3: It's also at such an event because of I read
- 6:24Speaker 3: a book Never Eat Alone by Keith Ferrazi early on,
- 6:28Speaker 3: and it was building relationships one moment at a time.
- 6:31Speaker 3: And I don't know, when you network, don't just collect cards,
- 6:36Speaker 3: but lean into what that person is about, because you
- 6:40Speaker 3: never know. You might go to this volunteer in particular,
- 6:43Speaker 3: maybe say an organization that deals with autism. You find
- 6:47Speaker 3: maybe a billionaire whose child has autism, but you lean
- 6:50Speaker 3: into what he's passionate about, and they might lean into
- 6:54Speaker 3: you and they will give you that opening. And those
- 6:57Speaker 3: have been opportunities that I've found myself in, you know
- 7:01Speaker 3: whereby you find yourself in rooms that you not have
- 7:04Speaker 3: met some very powerful and influential people, but because of
- 7:08Speaker 3: you're connected to what their passion is, they lean into
- 7:12Speaker 3: you and they seek you rather than what then you
- 7:14Speaker 3: seeking them. Like someone once said, what you seek is
- 7:18Speaker 3: seeking you.
- 7:21Speaker 2: That's a good one. I will say from personal experience
- 7:25Speaker 2: being in rooms where Boozy has brought me into. No
- 7:29Speaker 2: one works a room like she does. By the end
- 7:32Speaker 2: of the night, you're all of a sudden at the
- 7:35Speaker 2: un with Jaguar doing all of these things, and you're like,
- 7:39Speaker 2: how did I get to this room? And she always says,
- 7:41Speaker 2: walk with me and trust it and you'll see by
- 7:45Speaker 2: the end of the night. But you know, I always say,
- 7:46Speaker 2: you know you're the plug and we joke around because
- 7:49Speaker 2: your network is so vast, But you do lead by
- 7:52Speaker 2: example in how to network, how to work the room,
- 7:56Speaker 2: how to be intentional with the relationships that you build
- 7:59Speaker 2: and We've had the privilege of working together different events
- 8:03Speaker 2: and productions like with CNN and book launches and your
- 8:06Speaker 2: vision Board events, which has been great. But representation at
- 8:10Speaker 2: the table has always been very ecocentric when I shadow
- 8:15Speaker 2: you and see you work the room. So as the
- 8:19Speaker 2: president of the New York Africa Chamber of Commerce, you
- 8:24Speaker 2: help bridge Africa and global markets. So what opportunities do
- 8:28Speaker 2: you see emerging that excites you the most about that representation?
- 8:34Speaker 3: Oh well, Penny, I want to meet that person. But
- 8:39Speaker 3: I must say Penny is also a very special person.
- 8:42Speaker 3: I must say, because she also thinks intentionally about people.
- 8:47Speaker 3: She's not transactional, and sometimes I think a lot of
- 8:50Speaker 3: people miss the mark by being so transactional. When they
- 8:53Speaker 3: meet people, they want to close a deal right there,
- 8:56Speaker 3: connect with people for lean in, look at them, show interest,
- 9:01Speaker 3: not me, me, me, myself and I because that's a
- 9:03Speaker 3: turn off. But when you lean into people, they also
- 9:08Speaker 3: get well because people also want people to genuinely get
- 9:12Speaker 3: to know them, as opposed to what can you give
- 9:15Speaker 3: me or what or looking desperate you understand? So I
- 9:19Speaker 3: believe it's that type of thing of connecting and then
- 9:23Speaker 3: focusing on excellence. I think all of us has an
- 9:27Speaker 3: element of excellence in us. Be good at what you
- 9:30Speaker 3: do when identify your strengths, your weaknesses and work on those.
- 9:39Speaker 3: And guess what when people start seeing when you move
- 9:42Speaker 3: in excellence, people want to be associated with excellence. If
- 9:46Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not saying that that doesn't mean
- 9:50Speaker 3: you could make mistakes here and there, but strive for excellence.
- 9:55Speaker 3: And that said, because people will want to bring you
- 9:57Speaker 3: into their circles, work with you, and that kind of thing.
- 9:59Speaker 3: And so for me, what this representation means for me,
- 10:03Speaker 3: I've always been like, whenever I work with people, I'm
- 10:06Speaker 3: looking for who are the creme de la creme or
- 10:09Speaker 3: who want to learn? Or who am I going to
- 10:12Speaker 3: learn from? It's mutual and we'll grow together. Yes, And
- 10:19Speaker 3: so that for me is more core and I find
- 10:22Speaker 3: that That's why I'm like, wait a minute, Africa. I'm
- 10:25Speaker 3: from Africa originally, I'm American as well, so it's only
- 10:31Speaker 3: natural for me to say, you know what, why can't
- 10:34Speaker 3: the continent of Africa, especially given that it has a
- 10:37Speaker 3: young population of I think of the population in twenty
- 10:42Speaker 3: fifty will be African, And I'm like, why can't we
- 10:46Speaker 3: as Americans do business with the continent of Africa and
- 10:50Speaker 3: open markets for Africa businesses into the US as well
- 10:54Speaker 3: as US businesses and the continent. For me, it's a
- 10:58Speaker 3: no brainer. Having lived in New York for twenty six years,
- 11:02Speaker 3: New York is an epicentral finance and so for me,
- 11:07Speaker 3: it's what encourages me to look for these business opportunities
- 11:11Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, we have to
- 11:16Speaker 3: we have to think about what's sustainable.
- 11:21Speaker 1: That's awesome. I can just sit down and listen to No,
- 11:24Speaker 1: it's beautiful.
- 11:26Speaker 2: No, it's beautiful. And the fact that you give back
- 11:29Speaker 2: through the chamber, through your own global strategy connections, and
- 11:32Speaker 2: you give back to Berkeley College, your alma mater, and
- 11:36Speaker 2: you do experiential learning events. And we went last year
- 11:39Speaker 2: to NASDAK and took a group of students there. Shout out,
- 11:44Speaker 2: shout out to the NASDAC team and it's a Fat
- 11:48Speaker 2: Joe's team, Fat Joe and Richie over there. They mentored
- 11:51Speaker 2: our students. It was a fun day. JB. Young shout
- 11:55Speaker 2: out to him. So it's what continues to empower you
- 11:58Speaker 2: to do that, to be able to bring our next
- 12:01Speaker 2: generations into these spaces.
- 12:03Speaker 3: So what good is it for me to be the
- 12:05Speaker 3: only one in certain spaces and the last to be
- 12:08Speaker 3: in those spaces. I'm big on the intergenerational dialogue and
- 12:15Speaker 3: contributing to the next generation. So if I identify talent,
- 12:21Speaker 3: why don't I bring the more the merria bring them up.
- 12:26Speaker 3: I've been also, people have opened doors for me, So
- 12:29Speaker 3: why can't I open doors for people who are exciting
- 12:31Speaker 3: on All they need is an opportunity and they need access.
- 12:36Speaker 3: So for me, it's it's it's it encourages me when
- 12:40Speaker 3: I see those types of young people who show that
- 12:43Speaker 3: effort to go the extra mile, and so I want
- 12:45Speaker 3: to grow with such people. It brings me peace and happiness.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Beautiful has brought me along.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I've never I've never been. I know there's there's a word, right,
- 12:58Speaker 1: there's a phrase like gatekeepers.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Right.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Yeah, people who will get into a certain position of
- 13:02Speaker 1: power and then they don't want anybody to come up.
- 13:04Speaker 1: They feel threatened a lot of times by people either
- 13:07Speaker 1: taking their position or whatever the case is. And I've
- 13:09Speaker 1: always been that person who always tries to open the
- 13:12Speaker 1: door for other people and help them, like in the
- 13:14Speaker 1: music industry, get them, whether it's on the radio, or
- 13:17Speaker 1: into clubs or anything in my and obviously in my
- 13:19Speaker 1: lane that I could help people out with, or even
- 13:21Speaker 1: sitting down and having great conversations with a lot of
- 13:23Speaker 1: people when we used to have interns, they just random.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Even talking to them. I see you that personality. I mean,
- 13:29Speaker 3: I saw you during at Berkeley talking to the students,
- 13:33Speaker 3: and for me that was really inspiring because and.
- 13:37Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you up, I find myself as
- 13:38Speaker 1: I've gotten older, being that person who who could, who
- 13:43Speaker 1: gives it a lot of advice and even sometimes at
- 13:45Speaker 1: the end of conversations, I think of myself like, wow,
- 13:47Speaker 1: that's really good advice I wish I had I was
- 13:51Speaker 1: coming up, and no, I do like at the end
- 13:53Speaker 1: of a lot of even nightclubs I do and stuff.
- 13:55Speaker 1: At the end, I'll find myself in a group of
- 13:58Speaker 1: people just talking and we're talking about music and nightlife
- 14:01Speaker 1: and the radio and this and that, and they're always
- 14:03Speaker 1: asking me questions. I'm giving just honest advice and things
- 14:07Speaker 1: and just trying to always from my perspective, help better
- 14:11Speaker 1: people with what I think. You know, everyone has to
- 14:13Speaker 1: make their own decisions right in life, but what I
- 14:16Speaker 1: think is better for life, and even with my close friends,
- 14:21Speaker 1: I'm always giving advice. I'm like that, Like I've become
- 14:23Speaker 1: like the bro yeah advise And it's funny because and
- 14:27Speaker 1: it's something that and this is the perfect moment to
- 14:29Speaker 1: bring it up. You know, people are always there's always
- 14:31Speaker 1: been this saying, right like, oh you are who with
- 14:34Speaker 1: the people? You know, the people you surround yourself with
- 14:36Speaker 1: are only as far as you could get and blah
- 14:38Speaker 1: blah blah. And if you don't surround yourself, yeah, if
- 14:41Speaker 1: you don't surround yourself with people at a higher level
- 14:43Speaker 1: than you, you're not going to get to a higher level.
- 14:45Speaker 1: And there's some there's truth in that to a certain extent,
- 14:48Speaker 1: you could surround yourself with the wrong people who bring
- 14:50Speaker 1: you down. Right, But then sometimes you have to be
- 14:52Speaker 1: the person in your circle that's the one helping bring
- 14:55Speaker 1: people up also, right, So like if I always just
- 14:58Speaker 1: if I don't want to be around people that, let's
- 15:00Speaker 1: just say, can't do nothing for me. Right, So if
- 15:03Speaker 1: somebody parasitic people, there's people who only want to be
- 15:05Speaker 1: around people who they think could do something to help
- 15:08Speaker 1: better them or get them to you know, And I
- 15:10Speaker 1: don't agree in that either. I agree And sometimes you
- 15:12Speaker 1: have to be the person to help better the people
- 15:14Speaker 1: that are that are with you, you know, and be
- 15:16Speaker 1: that person that can help them get up or get
- 15:19Speaker 1: to the next level. So it's it's about it. No,
- 15:24Speaker 1: I totally.
- 15:24Speaker 3: I think you brought it up the best way possible
- 15:27Speaker 3: because sometimes people I think the gatekeeping situation has been
- 15:31Speaker 3: as a result of some people being burnt. But then,
- 15:34Speaker 3: of course, like you said, use discretion, of course, use
- 15:39Speaker 3: wisdom to see, you know, a discernment because somebody, especially
- 15:43Speaker 3: you start grooming people from when they're younger and coaching them,
- 15:48Speaker 3: and then you start seeing that, oh, make wait a minute,
- 15:52Speaker 3: this person is willing to learn, and then this person
- 15:56Speaker 3: is not there. Yeah, and then this person then you
- 15:58Speaker 3: also learn, you know, what you don't have. As you
- 16:01Speaker 3: get older, you don't have the time to just bring
- 16:04Speaker 3: everybody along. You begin to pour into those who are
- 16:08Speaker 3: intentional about you, who care about your goals as well,
- 16:11Speaker 3: because why should you wait. It's like having three lifelines, right,
- 16:16Speaker 3: or two lifelines. You can give one to somebody who
- 16:19Speaker 3: you want to just help, and then the other one
- 16:22Speaker 3: you pour into somebody who also has poured into you.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I think you have to wait, Oh yeah, definitely, it's
- 16:31Speaker 1: a balance.
- 16:32Speaker 2: So Angie Martinez did an episode on her podcast and
- 16:38Speaker 2: she was talking about the gifts that we have and
- 16:42Speaker 2: what's the point of having a gift if you don't
- 16:44Speaker 2: share it and you don't give forward. So it's about that, right,
- 16:48Speaker 2: It's the give and take, like you guys are saying.
- 16:50Speaker 2: But it's really about mentorship and being able to provide
- 16:53Speaker 2: to the next generation, and that's building legacy. That's the
- 16:55Speaker 2: point of what we do and why.
- 16:57Speaker 3: We do it, and including sponsorship because sometimes people don't
- 17:00Speaker 3: realize there's a difference between wntorship and sponsorship. Sponsorship is
- 17:04Speaker 3: also speaking about people in rooms they're not you know,
- 17:08Speaker 3: and then helping them grow, helping them to get that
- 17:12Speaker 3: next level.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I'm just like so many games.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these questions too. We have and
- 17:21Speaker 1: you know if you touched any of these, but talking
- 17:23Speaker 1: about platforms and building things, building platforms for change. You
- 17:27Speaker 1: founded Fashion Indie, led the Africa Future Summit, and created
- 17:32Speaker 1: the Reset platform during the pandemic, right, So what compels
- 17:36Speaker 1: you to build in moments of uncertain uncertainty? And you
- 17:39Speaker 1: talked about it earlier about when your father unfortunately passed
- 17:41Speaker 1: away and how you really dug into work and focused
- 17:45Speaker 1: is during times of let's say crisis or something or
- 17:48Speaker 1: hard times in your life. Is when you really get busy.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Is working harder something that takes you away from having
- 17:55Speaker 1: to think about anything.
- 17:56Speaker 3: You know, It's so funny you brought me to a
- 17:57Speaker 3: different dimension as well right now, because I think for
- 18:01Speaker 3: me everything also comes from God, and I think in
- 18:05Speaker 3: those moments, it's also when I lean into God more
- 18:09Speaker 3: like I felt like during the pandemic there was a
- 18:13Speaker 3: hopelessness that was going what people don't realize. I was
- 18:17Speaker 3: even a contact tracer during COVID and there's at one
- 18:21Speaker 3: point I was calling and you're hearing emergency vehicles coming
- 18:26Speaker 3: to pick up somebody, or you're calling somebody. You're calling
- 18:31Speaker 3: a nine one one to come and help that person
- 18:34Speaker 3: because they're crisis. And then I lived in Huntington, I
- 18:38Speaker 3: mean in Melville, which is in the city which is
- 18:40Speaker 3: in Huntington, in Long Island, which at the peak of
- 18:43Speaker 3: the pandemic, we had the highest death toll in the world,
- 18:48Speaker 3: whereby even wards were I mean cafeterias were converted into wards.
- 18:54Speaker 3: So I just kept on doing this, like I was
- 18:57Speaker 3: doing something on Facebook just encouraging peop would have because
- 19:00Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a minute, are you telling me even
- 19:03Speaker 3: though though they are death tolds, they are no people surviving.
- 19:06Speaker 3: So I decided to flip fit and think about what
- 19:09Speaker 3: about the survivors? And so with RESAT at the time,
- 19:13Speaker 3: it was how are leader's pivoting in this time of crisis?
- 19:18Speaker 3: That was an example of that moment. Then with Fashion India,
- 19:23Speaker 3: as I said, death made me and my dad's death
- 19:27Speaker 3: made me lean into keeping busy into not because I'm like,
- 19:33Speaker 3: would my.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Dad be happy if I.
- 19:37Speaker 3: I lost it? If I if I no longer accomplish
- 19:41Speaker 3: the goals I set out to do, I think I
- 19:45Speaker 3: need to channel that sadness into something positive. So for me,
- 19:51Speaker 3: that was that moment night.
- 19:52Speaker 2: But again God helped me get through this. It's tough
- 19:58Speaker 2: losing a parent, and especially when you're young, and he
- 20:02Speaker 2: was young.
- 20:02Speaker 3: He six days nine days after his fifty sixth birthday.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Is someone who was never ill.
- 20:08Speaker 2: You know, wow, yeah, my dad was fifty three. It
- 20:11Speaker 2: was right after his birthday. Well, yes, when you lose
- 20:14Speaker 2: a parent young, it's a lot of those times, those
- 20:17Speaker 2: pivotal moments where you would typically ask I was a
- 20:20Speaker 2: daddy's girl, me too. Yeah, So you typically have these sorry, mom,
- 20:25Speaker 2: you have these these moments where you wish you could
- 20:27Speaker 2: ask for advice or guidance, or you consistently ask yourself
- 20:31Speaker 2: would they be proud? Would they be happy of what
- 20:35Speaker 2: I'm doing or where I'm going? So those moments I
- 20:39Speaker 2: have found, and we've spoken about this offline, that those
- 20:43Speaker 2: moments is where you do push yourself and you say,
- 20:47Speaker 2: I'm just going to go full force ahead.
- 20:48Speaker 3: Exactly what have thought? If I how would he have
- 20:53Speaker 3: wanted me to handle this type of situation? You know,
- 20:57Speaker 3: And for people who don't have parents, maybe that's it
- 21:00Speaker 3: might be that's person you look up to, right who
- 21:04Speaker 3: guides you and that kind of thing. And when they're
- 21:06Speaker 3: not around, what would they have? What would they would
- 21:10Speaker 3: they want you to see you spiral in the wrong
- 21:12Speaker 3: direction or get back on track and it will be
- 21:17Speaker 3: all right.
- 21:19Speaker 2: I love that. It's all about having a vision and
- 21:22Speaker 2: sticking to it, which brings us to your book creating
- 21:27Speaker 2: the life of your dreams, which you have. You know,
- 21:32Speaker 2: you you set things out and you accomplish them. So
- 21:36Speaker 2: talk to us about how do you go from global
- 21:39Speaker 2: strategists and banking on representation and ensuring that your people
- 21:47Speaker 2: are in these spaces to now being a best selling
- 21:50Speaker 2: author with your book, which your book launch was phenomenal
- 21:55Speaker 2: in the city of course, yeah, thank you, thank you.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Oh and you helped sets it up so very instrumental
- 22:01Speaker 3: in that. What some people did not know. That's the
- 22:07Speaker 3: past five years were so tough for me because I
- 22:09Speaker 3: was going through a divorce as well. But in the
- 22:12Speaker 3: same time I had to Fortunately I had an amazing
- 22:14Speaker 3: culture helped me compartmentalize. And I remember this vision board
- 22:25Speaker 3: situation was just started as a hobby and I was
- 22:30Speaker 3: getting testimonials and I'm like, huh, what are you talking about? Oh,
- 22:35Speaker 3: thank you so much, this and this, I lost sixty pounds.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I got my dream job.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Oh I was able to.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Increase my pay by three times. Such things right, And
- 22:51Speaker 3: then in twenty twenty I had in January, I had
- 22:55Speaker 3: a vision Board event virtually and we had ten thousand
- 22:59Speaker 3: views on faceboo book. And so eventually I think my
- 23:03Speaker 3: coach just gave me something to do. It's like, I
- 23:05Speaker 3: need you to do an event on this and this
- 23:07Speaker 3: time in October twenty twenty three. Then I'm like, on
- 23:13Speaker 3: what I was like, no, you figured it out. Then
- 23:16Speaker 3: the next thing, my sister sends me something a vision
- 23:19Speaker 3: board from many from some years back, and then I
- 23:24Speaker 3: told him. I was like, oh, that's what you're going
- 23:27Speaker 3: to your vision body event on. It's like, so the
- 23:29Speaker 3: first vision board event, how many put did you have?
- 23:32Speaker 3: Forty second on?
- 23:33Speaker 2: How many?
- 23:33Speaker 3: Said about sixty? Then how many did you have virtually?
- 23:38Speaker 3: I said, oh about over one hundred? Did you monitor?
- 23:41Speaker 3: I said no, It's like, well that's what it's going
- 23:43Speaker 3: to be. Just gave me is like.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Figure it out.
- 23:47Speaker 3: So I sold out and I was like, how is
- 23:51Speaker 3: that even possible? Then someone from Berkeley College, Randigomans came
- 23:55Speaker 3: and she was like, you should do one at Berkeley
- 23:58Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my goodness, but that's less than
- 24:00Speaker 3: a month away. This is yes. Then people are like please,
- 24:04Speaker 3: can you please do one because I supposed to do
- 24:06Speaker 3: it virtually. They're like, nope, can we do it hybrid?
- 24:09Speaker 3: Then I learned from convening the Africa Future Summit. I
- 24:12Speaker 3: used to do virtual summits, especially during COVID and then online,
- 24:17Speaker 3: so I learned how the master the art of virtual
- 24:20Speaker 3: events as well as in person events. Oh well, it
- 24:25Speaker 3: was the first one, we had about one hundred and
- 24:28Speaker 3: I mean forty people in person and seventy people online.
- 24:32Speaker 3: The second one we had seven people, seventy people in
- 24:36Speaker 3: person and over one hundred and thirty and online, and
- 24:41Speaker 3: we had people calling in from India, from Botswana, from
- 24:45Speaker 3: different places. Now people are now we're way ahead in
- 24:49Speaker 3: the planning, and everybody's asking are we having it? And
- 24:52Speaker 3: I'm thinking about having different people with different networks and
- 24:56Speaker 3: platforms facilitating the online version.
- 24:59Speaker 2: So it's can it can scale that way? That's amazing,
- 25:02Speaker 2: you know. So see, you make a business out of entrepreneurship.
- 25:10Speaker 3: Manifested going to Davos seven years in using a vision
- 25:13Speaker 3: board and so for me, the vision board was just
- 25:16Speaker 3: symbolic of strategic planning. And I found myself doing like
- 25:21Speaker 3: giving advice to students in work during the work study program.
- 25:27Speaker 3: And then I found myself even the y w C
- 25:30Speaker 3: A before even the book. And then I'm like, wait
- 25:33Speaker 3: a minute, I'm conducting these workshops. Then my coaches that
- 25:37Speaker 3: you have to write a book on this, because then
- 25:39Speaker 3: he was like, we talked about brainstormed it on it,
- 25:42Speaker 3: and we discovered that all the vision board books that
- 25:45Speaker 3: existed were craft books, but this would be a business
- 25:51Speaker 3: book because I was giving advice to individuals, teams, and organizations.
- 25:57Speaker 3: And then I thought about it from some of the
- 25:59Speaker 3: stuff I'd been doing. I'm like, wait a minute. Companies
- 26:03Speaker 3: such as Walnut used to have fifty year vision plans,
- 26:08Speaker 3: I mean strategic plans, but with the advent of Amazon,
- 26:14Speaker 3: we've had to shift and make them shorter, and even
- 26:19Speaker 3: sometimes it's not just years, but month to month, or
- 26:26Speaker 3: even day to day, or even second to second. The
- 26:31Speaker 3: world is fast evolving, so are you able to adapt
- 26:36Speaker 3: to the changes? Are you able to pivot? Are able
- 26:39Speaker 3: to remove some things that are not working? You have
- 26:44Speaker 3: to be, you know, and then read the room and
- 26:48Speaker 3: lean into other people get advice. So I found I
- 26:52Speaker 3: was cutting with the vision boards. I was the book,
- 26:57Speaker 3: the vision board book. It's not a vision board book.
- 26:59Speaker 3: It's more the vision board was just a symbol in
- 27:03Speaker 3: the book to show writing down things, because my dad
- 27:06Speaker 3: used to say, when you write down something, you're least
- 27:09Speaker 3: likely to forget it. But I used to procrastinate. So
- 27:13Speaker 3: I was like, okay, wait a minute. With the vision board,
- 27:16Speaker 3: I'll see it and then remember that it's my doing board.
- 27:20Speaker 3: I have to accomplish these things that have forgotten instead
- 27:25Speaker 3: of having because I'm not one of those people who
- 27:27Speaker 3: remember to keep one book and have it for the
- 27:29Speaker 3: entire year, You'll find me with twenty books through the year.
- 27:33Speaker 3: So that was a good way of helping. But some
- 27:36Speaker 3: very organized people could use of pinterest even do it online.
- 27:43Speaker 3: They could use a book to write down their goal
- 27:46Speaker 3: part or their planner. Some people are very good at
- 27:49Speaker 3: using a genders so it's just to talk. It's about
- 27:54Speaker 3: color code everything exactly. My sister is that person. For me,
- 27:59Speaker 3: I do it in an interesting way, but I forget
- 28:02Speaker 3: I'm very macro, and then that also helps me become
- 28:06Speaker 3: micro because I'm like, wait a minute, I have to
- 28:08Speaker 3: get back on this, or it helps me with delegating.
- 28:13Speaker 2: I love it. So when is your next event?
- 28:17Speaker 3: January twenty fourth at Berkeley College. It's coming up and
- 28:22Speaker 3: you're welcome to come to it, and we need it, Yes,
- 28:25Speaker 3: you need to vision.
- 28:26Speaker 2: And it's exited the Berkeley College campus in Midtown.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Midtown on three East, exactly.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Right down the black right down the block the block,
- 28:35Speaker 1: and we.
- 28:36Speaker 3: Have amazing panels from I think. Also one of those
- 28:40Speaker 3: speakers is a co founded global citizen as well. Nice,
- 28:45Speaker 3: so yeah, and then we have someone who's a VC
- 28:48Speaker 3: also speaking, and then we have someone health and nutrition,
- 28:53Speaker 3: and then someone in financial services, so it's a nice panel.
- 28:58Speaker 3: And then we'll have like a I'll just for facilitate
- 29:00Speaker 3: the vision board thing where you can always print out
- 29:04Speaker 3: things you want to I will always say you could
- 29:07Speaker 3: choose for vision board one O one, choose about five
- 29:10Speaker 3: things you want to do. That is maybe family, that
- 29:16Speaker 3: is career, work, a spiritual health and wellness, and then
- 29:22Speaker 3: you can always break out and make it as sophisticated
- 29:28Speaker 3: as you want. But then that would let me give
- 29:31Speaker 3: an example, say, for instance, with a podcast, how many
- 29:34Speaker 3: viewers do you want to have for this year the
- 29:37Speaker 3: end of the year, and what's what's what does growth
- 29:40Speaker 3: look like for Yes, you can do a vision board
- 29:44Speaker 3: for the podcast. Yes, and how can you get to
- 29:48Speaker 3: that point? And what's what what do you want the
- 29:51Speaker 3: impact and action to be?
- 29:52Speaker 1: And that's the most important thing I think of a
- 29:54Speaker 1: vision board. Also that you have to understand it's not
- 29:57Speaker 1: just saying hey, I want to do this, this and
- 30:00Speaker 1: this and then not doing anything to accompany. They're not
- 30:03Speaker 1: just gonna come to you because they're on a vision board.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:07Speaker 1: The vision board is not a wish list. That's something
- 30:09Speaker 1: that you're gonna wake up and God's gonna be like
- 30:11Speaker 1: here you go. It's just a reminder of don't forget
- 30:15Speaker 1: to work on this, you know, it's a reminder. So
- 30:18Speaker 1: it's funny. We hate we don't have a vision board.
- 30:19Speaker 1: But for Christmas we bought this new calendar. Yeah, that
- 30:22Speaker 1: is awesome because with our kids' schedule, with mine and
- 30:25Speaker 1: my wife schedule, and it's just chaotic. So we had
- 30:29Speaker 1: like this, We have a section in our house that's
- 30:31Speaker 1: just for the calendar. So we have like this calendar.
- 30:33Speaker 1: We have like all these things Pinto and DA So
- 30:36Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen that calendar.
- 30:37Speaker 1: So now they have these huge yeah, the digital I
- 30:41Speaker 1: bought the Big twenty seven. It is amazing. It is
- 30:45Speaker 1: cooler than that, right, and it is it it's a
- 30:49Speaker 1: well four well one's about to turn eight, so I
- 30:52Speaker 1: would say four eight and nine right. So but with
- 30:56Speaker 1: their sports now they're all in sports and activities in
- 30:59Speaker 1: school and play there and playee. We keep our because
- 31:01Speaker 1: really active and then we're very active, me and my wife.
- 31:03Speaker 1: So with all of that going on we found ourselves
- 31:07Speaker 1: like so many papers stuff because there's so many kids
- 31:09Speaker 1: going on birthday part and these kids have twenty friends
- 31:11Speaker 1: of each birthday. Our life is really life every weekend,
- 31:16Speaker 1: oh no, every they live a life. Our kids. Every
- 31:19Speaker 1: single weekend is something because there's sports and then there's birthdays,
- 31:22Speaker 1: and then there's events, and then there's it goes on
- 31:25Speaker 1: and on. So with that something on there. Going back
- 31:28Speaker 1: to the calendar is it's like it has its own
- 31:30Speaker 1: built in area where you could put reminder vision boards
- 31:33Speaker 1: stuff that and you.
- 31:35Speaker 3: Could put even do a vision board with good kids.
- 31:37Speaker 3: I said, doing vision boards with my kids because I
- 31:39Speaker 3: have a sixteen year old and boarding I'm going to
- 31:41Speaker 3: do and I have a they said to about six seven,
- 31:45Speaker 3: and then my second one is fourteen and then the
- 31:47Speaker 3: youngest of seven. So yeah, I have one who's in
- 31:49Speaker 3: your same age group.
- 31:52Speaker 1: We're going to do vision boards. That's years at my house.
- 31:55Speaker 3: That's awesome, welcome to come to the vision board.
- 31:58Speaker 1: We'll bring them. We'll bring them. Well, we dat kind
- 32:00Speaker 1: of a vision for it is we put so so
- 32:03Speaker 1: one thing the calendar has it has tasks so and
- 32:05Speaker 1: you can and they'll win prizes. Basically right, you have ever.
- 32:08Speaker 1: So after they do certain things, they get to click
- 32:11Speaker 1: it and they get a star and at the end
- 32:12Speaker 1: of the month, whoever has the most such So now
- 32:14Speaker 1: it's competition. It's just these kids have never I mean
- 32:17Speaker 1: they wake they're waking up, brushing their teeth, fixing their bed,
- 32:19Speaker 1: cleaning their rooms, they're doing everything. These kids are coming
- 32:22Speaker 1: you get up, They're running the room. Hey, I made
- 32:25Speaker 1: breakfast today. So how many stars like it? Like it's
- 32:27Speaker 1: a competition. I I'm like, I'm talking about so what
- 32:31Speaker 1: are they wins?
- 32:34Speaker 2: Medieval times?
- 32:35Speaker 1: Why did I get any of these stars?
- 32:37Speaker 2: Now we got Well for us, it was like, this
- 32:39Speaker 2: is your job.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Yeah, for us, it was you're gonna get punished.
- 32:42Speaker 2: If you don't do this school, clean your room. That
- 32:44Speaker 2: is your job. This has been great, This has been great, Boosy.
- 32:48Speaker 2: We always wrap the same way.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Pro you want to, no, you get I mean, this
- 32:52Speaker 1: is this is you, This is your thing. In one word, yeah, okay,
- 32:56Speaker 1: well you know what we do here at teach me something.
- 33:00Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've seen it. At the end of
- 33:02Speaker 1: each and every episode is we ask, in one word,
- 33:05Speaker 1: what do you want your legacy to be?
- 33:11Speaker 2: We only ask the tough questions here.
- 33:15Speaker 1: She has so many different things that.
- 33:16Speaker 3: I know ecosystem Builder'll take it.
- 33:22Speaker 1: We'll take it, hyphen ecosystem builders. I don't think anyone
- 33:28Speaker 1: else is ever going to use that one.
- 33:29Speaker 2: No, and it is you. I want Hunter persent you.
- 33:34Speaker 2: And we wouldn't end this episode in any other way
- 33:36Speaker 2: but laughing it out, Boosy.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Thank you so much for thanks so much. Would love
- 33:41Speaker 1: to have you, and congratulations on everything.
- 33:43Speaker 3: Thank you so much on congratulations, and we are happy
- 33:47Speaker 3: New Year, the happy New Year, a masterclass.
- 33:50Speaker 2: The first guests to you are you are first guess
- 33:53Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six?
- 33:55Speaker 1: Oh oh well, thank you, we love Thank you so much.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Start working on this vision board.
- 34:03Speaker 2: All right, let's start. Thanks for tuning in.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Everyone will bring our vision board.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for tuning in. Tune in every Wednesday wherever
- 34:12Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and on Sundays on w o
- 34:15Speaker 2: R seven ten. This is Teach Me Something, presented by
- 34:19Speaker 2: Berkeley College.
- 34:20Speaker 1: So you see you next time.
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