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- 0:00Speaker 1: We'll live like and gentlemen, welcome to chaos. Let the
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- 0:25Speaker 3: Now we've got a long time. We're the action never stopped.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Are you writing this stuff? This is chuck in the morning.
- 0:34Speaker 1: People are beyond Let's go, let's get the game off. Hey,
- 0:51Speaker 1: great morning to you. Welcome in here on this Thursday.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Oh even the audio sounds crisper when you are in studio.
- 0:58Speaker 1: That sounds more live. Welcome to the radio show here
- 1:02Speaker 1: on this Thursday. It is great to have you with us.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And yes, I do like going to the Virginia Mason
- 1:07Speaker 1: Athletics Center. It's a nice experience, but it's so another
- 1:12Speaker 1: thing to be in the dark and the cold talking
- 1:15Speaker 1: to grass. I love the comfort of the studio and
- 1:20Speaker 1: I am happy to be here in studio today with
- 1:24Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan. And it is great to have you aboard
- 1:27Speaker 1: with us as well. A little surprised, I thought we
- 1:30Speaker 1: were out there all week. I was just told earlier
- 1:32Speaker 1: in the day that we were out there all week.
- 1:34Speaker 1: But here we are in studio today and ready to
- 1:38Speaker 1: deliver four hours of just radio dynamite here on this Thursday.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Good morning, Ashley, Good morning.
- 1:45Speaker 4: I thought to myself, Yeah, do I need to I know?
- 1:49Speaker 4: Am I am?
- 1:49Speaker 1: I awake?
- 1:50Speaker 3: I know?
- 1:51Speaker 4: Is that Chuck?
- 1:51Speaker 1: I know?
- 1:52Speaker 4: Is he really here?
- 1:53Speaker 1: Looks like I'm getting younger with every day, doesn't it.
- 1:55Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.
- 1:58Speaker 1: I can read your face.
- 1:59Speaker 4: He looked younger and more vibrant. Right is he Benjamin
- 2:04Speaker 4: buttoning right in front of my eyes?
- 2:06Speaker 1: You know what I told you that I bought that
- 2:09Speaker 1: one dumbbell and walking home from targeting, I've worked out
- 2:13Speaker 1: with that thing two nights in a row. Wow, so
- 2:17Speaker 1: probably look pretty.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Yeah, super buff?
- 2:20Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, that's what happens with a twenty minute workout
- 2:24Speaker 1: with one twenty pound dumbbelt.
- 2:26Speaker 4: Good for you. Each side of your body got ten
- 2:29Speaker 4: minutes of a workout.
- 2:30Speaker 1: It can turn around like that.
- 2:31Speaker 4: Just like see. So all of you who are putting
- 2:34Speaker 4: off getting back in shape, Chuck right here proof exactly
- 2:38Speaker 4: you can do it very quickly that in forty.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Eight hours you can go from looking like an old, haggard,
- 2:43Speaker 1: tired man to looking like the next Zach Effron.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Basically my thoughts exactly, that's probably a bad example since
- 2:53Speaker 4: he's now a steroid out. Well, that's true, like normal
- 2:58Speaker 4: Zach Effron. Yeah, before went to do that movie with
- 3:01Speaker 4: all the roids, I.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Was gonna do the Frankenstein guy, but I couldn't think
- 3:04Speaker 1: of his name. Jacob l Ron or Jacob Lordy, Lordy.
- 3:07Speaker 4: That guy is a dream boat.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Yeah, take two. Okay, in forty eight hours with dumbbell
- 3:14Speaker 1: one dumbbell, you can go from looking like an old, tired,
- 3:17Speaker 1: haggard man. Yeah, and within forty eight hours you can
- 3:21Speaker 1: look like Jacob ALRDI. Wow, yeah, Jack, Yeah, You're welcome America.
- 3:27Speaker 1: And now I feel confident to be on YouTube.
- 3:30Speaker 4: Thank goodness, because our listeners have really not loved staring
- 3:34Speaker 4: at the KJR logo for.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Is that what's happened? I just didn't even they shut
- 3:38Speaker 1: it down. No, was it impossible to take it out
- 3:41Speaker 1: to the working on it.
- 3:43Speaker 4: But it's got to get somehow connected. Like I know
- 3:45Speaker 4: you have your laptop and it's got a camera on it,
- 3:47Speaker 4: but it's got to get connected to something here and
- 3:49Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Well, it wouldn't work yesterday, No, because your laptop. My
- 3:53Speaker 1: laptop was well, basically the world's largest paper weight. All right, well,
- 3:59Speaker 1: great to have you with us. It's terrific to be
- 4:01Speaker 1: it really is. I don't know how softies out a
- 4:04Speaker 1: lot on remote with Dick, and I don't know if
- 4:06Speaker 1: they like it that way, prefer it that way. I
- 4:09Speaker 1: personally do not as fun as it is to be
- 4:11Speaker 1: out at training camp. I just for radio purposes. I
- 4:15Speaker 1: just this is. This is good for me. I've got
- 4:18Speaker 1: I got a different kind of energy here today. So
- 4:21Speaker 1: great to have you with us, and uh, we've got
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- 4:41Speaker 1: tell you what's on tap here in a little bit.
- 4:43Speaker 1: But we start with the Mariners and I don't know
- 4:46Speaker 1: if I was planning you know, twelve hours ago. I
- 4:48Speaker 1: don't know if that was going to be my plan
- 4:50Speaker 1: for the first segment because we've got some other things
- 4:52Speaker 1: going on here that I think are worth mentioning here today.
- 4:56Speaker 1: But last night was it was a nice win, really
- 4:59Speaker 1: nice win. I think our old friend Bucky and his
- 5:02Speaker 1: glossary of terms even called it a big win last night.
- 5:04Speaker 1: He did, which was may not have registered with other people,
- 5:08Speaker 1: but that registers with Ashley and I Yeah, I was like.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Wow, I see you, Wow, I see you.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Big Bay wins, big win guy throwing out big wins,
- 5:16Speaker 1: drop big wins. Yeah, early August and already we're dealing
- 5:20Speaker 1: in big win territories.
- 5:21Speaker 4: Can agree more though, because that would have been a
- 5:22Speaker 4: massive loss.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, And to have won it
- 5:27Speaker 1: the way that you want it, you know, it did
- 5:30Speaker 1: feel a little extra special. And what I mean by
- 5:34Speaker 1: that is there were some things that happened that we
- 5:37Speaker 1: just have not seen happen this year. We saw the
- 5:41Speaker 1: defense bail out Brian wu early in the game, outfield
- 5:46Speaker 1: defense from two guys. Let's face, it have not been
- 5:50Speaker 1: good defensively this year. Dom Canzone is probably never going
- 5:53Speaker 1: to be great defensively. He was great defensively last night.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Randy or Rose Arena was spectacular last night, hustling everywhere,
- 6:03Speaker 1: and he has all the ability to do it. I'm
- 6:05Speaker 1: not sure it's ever gonna be in dom to be
- 6:08Speaker 1: a great defender. Certainly a better one, a good one,
- 6:11Speaker 1: but Randy Rose Arena, it just all comes down to
- 6:15Speaker 1: what mindset he's in that night. Because he has the
- 6:19Speaker 1: athletic ability and the strength that he can climb walls,
- 6:23Speaker 1: he can track down fly balls. I don't know why
- 6:26Speaker 1: he's so inaccurate with his throwing arm, but he wasn't
- 6:29Speaker 1: last night, and so that bailed Brian out of that
- 6:33Speaker 1: one inning that normally blows up in his face, or
- 6:37Speaker 1: at least it has on the road, not at home,
- 6:39Speaker 1: and it bailed him out of that inning. And you
- 6:41Speaker 1: could see the emotions. You could see how appreciative he
- 6:44Speaker 1: was of it as he was coming off the field,
- 6:48Speaker 1: actually in the moment. Then as he was coming off
- 6:50Speaker 1: the field, he stood there and waited for those two
- 6:52Speaker 1: guys to come run by him. And then when he
- 6:55Speaker 1: got out of the inning and the seventh that just emotional,
- 7:00Speaker 1: just release where he yelled into his gun and we
- 7:02Speaker 1: yelled into his glove and we've seen him do that before,
- 7:05Speaker 1: but maybe not to that degree. So you get the
- 7:09Speaker 1: great outfield defense from two unlikely characters, you get the
- 7:13Speaker 1: seven innings of shutout baseball from your starting pitcher, and then,
- 7:17Speaker 1: after fourteen innings of shutout baseball offensively, when you're supposed
- 7:22Speaker 1: to be new and improved, Julio Rodriguez just went up
- 7:25Speaker 1: there with savage intent and he swung at the first pitch.
- 7:29Speaker 1: He was looking for it away and he just crushed
- 7:32Speaker 1: it to right field, and that went up. He went
- 7:36Speaker 1: up three to nothing at that point in the contest.
- 7:39Speaker 1: And yet here we sit this morning, and I'm going
- 7:43Speaker 1: to entertain this this morning. I'm going to entertain this
- 7:45Speaker 1: this morning, and we have people saying that it was
- 7:49Speaker 1: the brawl that has sparked the team and is gonna
- 7:53Speaker 1: unleash hell and fury on the rest of Major League Baseball.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I hope you're true. I hope that's true. I hope
- 8:02Speaker 1: you're right. I hope that whatever happened in the Gabespire
- 8:06Speaker 1: Cal Raleigh DeJesus Torres brawl last night, that it sparks
- 8:11Speaker 1: off forty game winning streak. And because I'll take anything,
- 8:16Speaker 1: whatever that might be hell, I'll take hey rally monkeys
- 8:21Speaker 1: have been given the credit for World Series appearances on heads,
- 8:25Speaker 1: shoes on heads, rats on ice. Yeah, we've had all
- 8:29Speaker 1: sorts of things. My goodness, I'll believe anything if I
- 8:33Speaker 1: I saw it with my own ice. You're not gonna
- 8:35Speaker 1: believe this, But I saw it with my own eyes.
- 8:37Speaker 1: A team that historically has struggled to pack the house
- 8:41Speaker 1: on weekdays was four games under five hundred going into
- 8:45Speaker 1: a game against the Detroit Tigers, coming off one of
- 8:47Speaker 1: their most flaccid performances of the entire year, a year
- 8:51Speaker 1: filled with underachievement, and because of the power of a
- 8:55Speaker 1: rookie card of a deformed raccoon, we sold out a
- 8:59Speaker 1: state on a Wednesday night to give us the ambiance
- 9:04Speaker 1: that maybe contributed to that victory last night. So if
- 9:08Speaker 1: that can happen, then I can believe anything can happen.
- 9:11Speaker 1: So we those of you that think the season turned
- 9:14Speaker 1: around when Gabe Spire threw it Glaber Torres last night,
- 9:18Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I don't. I think there
- 9:22Speaker 1: were four or five things that happened baseball last night,
- 9:26Speaker 1: including Colt Emerson's answer with the home run after the
- 9:29Speaker 1: brawl that may have shown may have reminded this team
- 9:35Speaker 1: what they're capable of in a lot of different facets
- 9:38Speaker 1: of the game. Maybe this game does give us that
- 9:41Speaker 1: spark we've waited for all twenty twenty six. And if
- 9:46Speaker 1: you want to believe that it was the brawl, let's
- 9:50Speaker 1: go ahead and go with that. If it sparks this
- 9:53Speaker 1: team to finally play the way that they want, I'll
- 9:55Speaker 1: let you believe anything that you want. And so there
- 9:59Speaker 1: you go. Cards on the table. Gabe Spier hit glabor,
- 10:02Speaker 1: torres and thigh and he showed them you're not gonna
- 10:06Speaker 1: hit our catcher in the stomach unintentionally and that and
- 10:12Speaker 1: that's going to launch a thousand ships. So if that's
- 10:16Speaker 1: what it is, I don't care. I don't care what
- 10:18Speaker 1: the reason is for a turnaround. We need to turn
- 10:20Speaker 1: around right now. And if we want to give that
- 10:23Speaker 1: the credit, I'm here for it.
- 10:25Speaker 4: I think there was a theme throughout the night, and
- 10:27Speaker 4: it was that they all had each other's backs because
- 10:29Speaker 4: just as you.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Described it, okay, it was like that.
- 10:31Speaker 4: It was a rose Arena, it was canzone. It was
- 10:34Speaker 4: the defense helping Wu, it was Wu helping his offense.
- 10:37Speaker 4: Who was struggling to get on the board, and then
- 10:39Speaker 4: it was Julio coming through, and then it was you know,
- 10:42Speaker 4: with Cal getting hit the Inspire saying I've got you.
- 10:45Speaker 4: And then it was Bizarta coming in whoopsie doodle, and
- 10:48Speaker 4: then it was Emerson saying don't worry, I've got you.
- 10:51Speaker 4: It was a theme. They all had each other's backs
- 10:53Speaker 4: all night long.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I like that. I love that. Yeah, okay, I can
- 10:58Speaker 1: buy that. Yeah.
- 10:59Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of people that have
- 11:01Speaker 4: criticized this team for not caring or their body language
- 11:03Speaker 4: and things like that all season long. If you watch
- 11:05Speaker 4: that game last night, that team cares.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, And you're right. That was the embodiment
- 11:11Speaker 1: of all of that. I mean, even Dan Wilson cared
- 11:14Speaker 1: so much about not spitting his gum into the umpire's
- 11:18Speaker 1: face last night that he got ejected without even raising
- 11:22Speaker 1: his temper.
- 11:22Speaker 4: Was the calmest ejection I've ever seen. Mark was like,
- 11:26Speaker 4: can you just throw a base?
- 11:28Speaker 1: Everybody had everyone's back last night. Yeah, I'm not making
- 11:33Speaker 1: light of it. I think that's a good argument. It
- 11:35Speaker 1: felt like a night like that, And I don't know
- 11:37Speaker 1: if we have had many nights like that. So if
- 11:40Speaker 1: Gabe Spire coming back and throwing at Labor Torres because
- 11:44Speaker 1: you hit cal Raley, and that is representative of your description. Okay,
- 11:50Speaker 1: if that's the symbol, if that's the play that symbolized
- 11:54Speaker 1: we have our backs. If it took one hundred and
- 11:57Speaker 1: twenty five games or whatever to finally have a game
- 12:00Speaker 1: like that, and Gabe Spier hitting Torres in the thigh
- 12:04Speaker 1: was the symbol for we've got your back night. Okay.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I like that. I like that narrative.
- 12:09Speaker 4: I like that reasoning, and especially when you say when
- 12:12Speaker 4: you talk about that it was Jimothy Knight who doesn't
- 12:14Speaker 4: have a full spine. Yes, I see they he needed
- 12:17Speaker 4: them to have his back too, and boy has s Yes,
- 12:22Speaker 4: there you go, sweet little guy, sweet little Jimothy.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but I mean, I'll go with it, but
- 12:30Speaker 1: I will just say this in terms of what happened
- 12:33Speaker 1: during the exchange. Now, do I have to change my
- 12:39Speaker 1: opinion on this if I'm gonna go with that, Maybe
- 12:42Speaker 1: I do. I actually in the moment was furious, Yes,
- 12:47Speaker 1: how on earth we need a win? And the idea
- 12:53Speaker 1: of putting a runner on a base against the heart
- 12:56Speaker 1: of the with the heart of the order coming up,
- 13:00Speaker 1: and we're gonna try to settle some sort of fifteen
- 13:04Speaker 1: minute old personal score. Yeah, cow got hit in the stomach.
- 13:09Speaker 1: That's a thing about baseball that they're all elephants. They
- 13:12Speaker 1: never forget, which means you can pick a time. In
- 13:17Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine to get back at the Detroit Tiger,
- 13:21Speaker 1: Bryce Harper and Hunter Strickland had one of the most
- 13:23Speaker 1: famous fights in the last fifteen years in Major League
- 13:27Speaker 1: Baseball because Hunter Strickland didn't like the way Harper celebrated
- 13:31Speaker 1: a home run three years prior. Wow, okay, so you're
- 13:35Speaker 1: gonna have long memories in Major League Baseball and you
- 13:38Speaker 1: can get your vengeance. I don't know if that was necessary. Yes,
- 13:43Speaker 1: one got away, and we don't like to see Cal
- 13:45Speaker 1: hitting the stomach, and it looked brutal. That was a
- 13:48Speaker 1: one to two count. I don't think that they were
- 13:51Speaker 1: intending to hit a one sixty hitter with a one
- 13:54Speaker 1: two count. I don't think anybody on the Tigers has
- 13:56Speaker 1: a vendetta against Cal Rawley. They might against Josh Naylor
- 14:00Speaker 1: because if you remember earlier in the season, that was
- 14:02Speaker 1: the game where the Tiger fans were believe Josh Naylor
- 14:05Speaker 1: tried to hurt three of their players. Yes, but then
- 14:08Speaker 1: you would throw it Josh Naylor. You wouldn't throw it
- 14:10Speaker 1: cal Raley in that situation. And so so I didn't
- 14:14Speaker 1: see anything. I saw a pitch that got away and
- 14:18Speaker 1: it hit our face of our franchise in the stomach.
- 14:22Speaker 1: I didn't see that that warranted vengeance. But if you
- 14:26Speaker 1: wanted to take vengeance to me, you take it at
- 14:29Speaker 1: another time. There is way too much at stake. We
- 14:34Speaker 1: need wins desperately, and the idea that with a three
- 14:38Speaker 1: run lead you're gonna put a guy on base to
- 14:40Speaker 1: settle some fifteen minute score against someone who didn't even
- 14:44Speaker 1: do anything intentional. Man, I just thought that was careless
- 14:49Speaker 1: and reckless and dumb. But if it ends up symbolizing
- 14:55Speaker 1: we got your back night, okay, maybe I can come
- 14:58Speaker 1: around on it. Maybe you've me into it. I just
- 15:02Speaker 1: in the moment, thought that was ridiculous by Gabe Spire
- 15:07Speaker 1: to open up the door and let the Tigers back
- 15:10Speaker 1: in a game where they have pretty much waved the
- 15:12Speaker 1: white flag. And now you fired them up, and now
- 15:15Speaker 1: you got we got to take our second best reliever
- 15:18Speaker 1: out of the game, and now we got to bring
- 15:20Speaker 1: in a righty that has been struggling as of late
- 15:22Speaker 1: to face their best hitter and he hits a two
- 15:25Speaker 1: run homer and now he got a one run game.
- 15:27Speaker 1: To me in the moment, I thought it was ridiculous.
- 15:30Speaker 1: I thought it was dumb, but maybe Ashley shed some
- 15:32Speaker 1: new light.
- 15:33Speaker 3: On it for me.
- 15:34Speaker 4: Well, And I do see your point too, because especially
- 15:36Speaker 4: had he hit him the first attempt, it's a warning, yeah,
- 15:40Speaker 4: And he's not getting kicked out right well, first of all.
- 15:42Speaker 1: And I want to clear that up too. You don't
- 15:44Speaker 1: have to warn anymore. This isn't two thousand and six.
- 15:47Speaker 1: If you if the umpires think that you threw at
- 15:49Speaker 1: somebody intentionally, they will kick you out of the game.
- 15:52Speaker 1: That's the way the game operates right now. And he
- 15:54Speaker 1: absolutely threw it the guy intentionally, because he did it twice,
- 15:58Speaker 1: and they let you do it. For those of you,
- 16:00Speaker 1: we'll let him police it themselves. They did. They allowed
- 16:03Speaker 1: him to throw it once, but you don't get to
- 16:05Speaker 1: miss and then throw it at him again, and that's
- 16:09Speaker 1: when the umpires got together and tossed him out of
- 16:11Speaker 1: the game. I think the umpires handled it perfectly well.
- 16:15Speaker 1: I thought it was a dumb decision. But if there
- 16:18Speaker 1: is some positive galvanizing, that's the symbol. That's what we needed.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Moment that brings this team together when we've had a
- 16:27Speaker 1: thousand different things that I thought we're going to bring
- 16:29Speaker 1: them together and they never did. Then great, let's celebrate it.
- 16:33Speaker 1: And Gabe Spire plunking gliber Torres to get this team
- 16:37Speaker 1: going was worth all the pain and.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Suffering, and I think it it did feel different because
- 16:44Speaker 4: I think in the past, in that situation, this team
- 16:48Speaker 4: might have crumbled where Gabe Spire hits cal and then
- 16:53Speaker 4: Bizarto comes in gives up the home run, makes it
- 16:55Speaker 4: a one run game that could have been the downward spiral,
- 17:01Speaker 4: and for it to come back and for Colt Emerson
- 17:04Speaker 4: to immediately hit the home run, it was like, oh no,
- 17:06Speaker 4: they're fired up about this too. And I don't know
- 17:08Speaker 4: if they're mad that, you know, col got hit in
- 17:11Speaker 4: the stomach, or if they're mad that Gabe and Dan
- 17:13Speaker 4: got ejected or whatever they're fired up about. There was
- 17:16Speaker 4: something different in the air after that situation than I've
- 17:20Speaker 4: seen in the past, because it could have been very deflating.
- 17:23Speaker 1: See, I thought they were already there, so I mean,
- 17:27Speaker 1: I thought.
- 17:27Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I will agree.
- 17:29Speaker 1: I think they played with an edge last all night. Yes,
- 17:32Speaker 1: Randy Rose Arena played with an edge last night. He
- 17:35Speaker 1: might not tonight. That's Randy a Rose Arena. I don't know.
- 17:38Speaker 1: I don't know if it turns into anything, I don't
- 17:40Speaker 1: know if it creates an avalanche of momentum. This team
- 17:43Speaker 1: seems to shun momentum. Yeah, but yeah, I think it
- 17:47Speaker 1: was already there before. Here's where I'll meet you. Here's
- 17:50Speaker 1: where I'll meet you. Because I would think the Julio
- 17:52Speaker 1: homer was a bigger deal. I would think the Arose
- 17:54Speaker 1: Arena y catch was a bigger deal. I would think
- 17:57Speaker 1: that Brian Wu going seven innings and yelling into glove
- 18:00Speaker 1: was a bigger deal. I would think Colt Emerson's response
- 18:02Speaker 1: to the brawl was a bigger deal. But if it
- 18:06Speaker 1: was part of the evening, yeah, like you put the
- 18:10Speaker 1: theme of I Got your back night, and now the
- 18:14Speaker 1: entire team now knows they've got each other's backs, and
- 18:17Speaker 1: it leads to them galvanized, focused and playing how they're
- 18:23Speaker 1: capable of. Then let's celebrate that thing. Yeah, celebrate the
- 18:27Speaker 1: hell out of it. I hope that if it's Jimithy,
- 18:29Speaker 1: it's Jimothy. I don't whatever it air? Yeah, what it
- 18:32Speaker 1: is this team has waited four months to start playing
- 18:36Speaker 1: the way that they're capable of. If it started last night,
- 18:39Speaker 1: I don't care what credit we give for a spark.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Let's go. It's time.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will reiterate I do think it was
- 18:47Speaker 4: part of it. I just was saying, like in the
- 18:50Speaker 4: past we've seen in that situation, I think this team
- 18:52Speaker 4: could have crumbled because it could have been just let
- 18:56Speaker 4: the air out of the building.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Oh no, here we go.
- 18:59Speaker 4: This just went so and and because of last night,
- 19:02Speaker 4: because of that theme, because of the you know, stacking one,
- 19:06Speaker 4: I got your back on top of the other. They
- 19:09Speaker 4: didn't crumble and they came out on top and it
- 19:12Speaker 4: was awesome.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I gotta say this just quickly, and that we're probably
- 19:15Speaker 1: gonna be We're probably gonna be late because of it.
- 19:17Speaker 1: But I mean, I got some support for that Texas
- 19:20Speaker 1: or tweet I sent last night, and I got some pushback,
- 19:23Speaker 1: and all of it was very fair, all of it
- 19:24Speaker 1: was above board. Nobody was nasty. But one guy responded with, yeah,
- 19:29Speaker 1: it totally just turned the season around. Yeah, Okay, first
- 19:34Speaker 1: of all, We don't have any evidence that this is
- 19:36Speaker 1: going to turn into anything. Secondly, there were a lot
- 19:39Speaker 1: of other things that might have turned the season around,
- 19:41Speaker 1: if it turned the season around. Thirdly, we got out
- 19:44Speaker 1: scored after that. Yeah, we got outscored two to one.
- 19:50Speaker 1: And you've already determined that.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Unless he was being sarcastic like buzz maybe maybe I
- 19:57Speaker 4: don't think so.
- 19:58Speaker 1: I've seen him tweet before. All right, let's find out
- 20:02Speaker 1: what's on tap for the rest of the show. Have
- 20:05Speaker 1: your attention please.
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- 20:20Speaker 1: Mariner's four Tigers to the team now three games under
- 20:23Speaker 1: five hundred. I know that doesn't sound very good, but
- 20:26Speaker 1: you did gain a full game on first place Houston
- 20:28Speaker 1: last night, which lost, so two and a half games
- 20:31Speaker 1: back and plenty of time to make that ground up.
- 20:34Speaker 1: You try to win the series against the Tigers today.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Bryce Miller will start for the Mariners at one ten
- 20:39Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, if you think that last
- 20:42Speaker 1: night's Shenanigans are over. Oh boy, think again, because Framber
- 20:47Speaker 1: Valdez doesn't need any excuse to throw at other hitters.
- 20:50Speaker 4: Sure does not.
- 20:51Speaker 1: I mean, he is the number one villain in the
- 20:54Speaker 1: sport right now when it comes to not understanding sort
- 20:59Speaker 1: of the unspoken rules of the game. So he's probably
- 21:03Speaker 1: gonna hit the first three hitters in the kneecap to
- 21:05Speaker 1: start the game.
- 21:06Speaker 4: Today and then he'll be ejected, which he'll be great.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Yeah, So, yes, that's who we're facing today. Yeah, gotta
- 21:14Speaker 1: go against the lefty. But to Ashley's point, maybe he
- 21:16Speaker 1: won't be around very long. The Dodgers have not won
- 21:19Speaker 1: since they added Trek Schouble. By the way, they have
- 21:22Speaker 1: lost six straight games. They just got swept for a
- 21:24Speaker 1: second straight series, this time by the Chicago Cubs. This
- 21:27Speaker 1: has been a big topic all week long, or the
- 21:29Speaker 1: Dodgers ruining the sport. I've talked about it a couple
- 21:31Speaker 1: of times at length. I won't do that again, Hugh
- 21:35Speaker 1: Millen will. So he was gonna join us today at
- 21:38Speaker 1: nine o'clock, and honestly, for a very good reason. He's
- 21:41Speaker 1: got some tremendous insight into this issue. That he and
- 21:45Speaker 1: I discussed off the air last week when he was
- 21:48Speaker 1: co hosting with me, and I think we need to
- 21:51Speaker 1: bring it on to the air because he's got some
- 21:53Speaker 1: really interesting He's got a really interesting point of view
- 21:56Speaker 1: on this because he was there as an NFL player
- 22:01Speaker 1: when they adopted the salary cap in the National Football League,
- 22:05Speaker 1: so he was there to hear all the arguments back
- 22:07Speaker 1: and forth, and so we're gonna talk to him about that.
- 22:10Speaker 1: At nine o'clock today, Snowhomish Little League wins over Canada
- 22:13Speaker 1: nine to one. Yeah, they got beat up by Florida,
- 22:15Speaker 1: but they've done nothing but cruse ever since. So are
- 22:19Speaker 1: Snowhomish Softball team still alive in the Little League World Series.
- 22:23Speaker 1: They will play next tomorrow at noon. They do not
- 22:26Speaker 1: know their opponent just yet. The Hall of Fame game
- 22:29Speaker 1: is tonight in the National Football League. That's right. Preseason
- 22:32Speaker 1: football starts tonight Arizona Cardinals against the Carollina Panthers, and
- 22:37Speaker 1: of course Hall of Fame Weekend is upcoming as well,
- 22:39Speaker 1: where Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keigley, and Drew Brees are the
- 22:43Speaker 1: headliners and an always headlined class for the National Football
- 22:48Speaker 1: League Hall of Fame weekend induction ceremony in Canton. Seahawks
- 22:52Speaker 1: training camp of course continues. Greg Bell will join us
- 22:55Speaker 1: today at seven oh five. We'll have another camp battle
- 22:57Speaker 1: for you later this hour. Husky's training camp start arts
- 23:00Speaker 1: today as well, which is what I was going to
- 23:02Speaker 1: lead with today until we had galvanized gate. So Elise
- 23:07Speaker 1: Woodward is going to join us the voice of the
- 23:09Speaker 1: Huskies today at eight o'clock to wet your whistle for
- 23:12Speaker 1: a little college football. And the Liberty, by the way,
- 23:16Speaker 1: won over the Storm last night by a final score
- 23:18Speaker 1: of ninety two eighty six. So those are your headlines
- 23:21Speaker 1: coming up next Mariners. Morning after we'll get into some
- 23:24Speaker 1: of the gritty details here from some of the party
- 23:27Speaker 1: and more. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. So
- 23:39Speaker 1: make a petch right here.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Brown Ball ticks off his glove of checks for two
- 23:43Speaker 5: hambertson up in the first picks. Brian Woo hang in
- 23:47Speaker 5: another zero seven to shut out it in tonight inside
- 23:51Speaker 5: t Mobile Park.
- 23:53Speaker 6: This is his house.
- 23:54Speaker 5: This season, in particular, he has been his storm.
- 23:59Speaker 1: That's great?
- 24:00Speaker 3: Is he? That?
- 24:00Speaker 1: The weirdest thing? How could that be? It's all it's
- 24:05Speaker 1: all psychological. There is something about when he's on the road,
- 24:10Speaker 1: he's expecting something bad. It's what do they call that,
- 24:14Speaker 1: that condition where if you start hearing that the flus
- 24:19Speaker 1: in the air, then psychosomatic where you start feeling, you
- 24:23Speaker 1: start experienced. You convince yourself you're experiencing the symptoms because
- 24:28Speaker 1: you heard about it. I think that's what it happens
- 24:30Speaker 1: to Brian Wu on the road is he's expecting to
- 24:34Speaker 1: have a bad inning at some point, and the moment
- 24:37Speaker 1: one thing goes the wrong way, then he sort of
- 24:40Speaker 1: gives into it, starts getting sloppy. He's psychosomatic about it.
- 24:43Speaker 4: Yeah, how do we fix it?
- 24:45Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I've thrown this out before.
- 24:48Speaker 1: I saw Softy throw it out last night. It might
- 24:52Speaker 1: come down to, I mean, honestly, the games are getting
- 24:55Speaker 1: more important. It might come down to you're not going
- 24:58Speaker 1: to pitch on the road anymore. I mean, I know
- 25:01Speaker 1: we have to get this fixed, but we can work
- 25:04Speaker 1: on that next year. Right now, the games are getting
- 25:06Speaker 1: too important and we got this. Kate Anderson guy, Yeah,
- 25:10Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna have the same problems, so
- 25:13Speaker 1: I hope not. The next time he's gonna have to
- 25:16Speaker 1: pitch better on the road or I'm gonna lose confidence
- 25:19Speaker 1: in using him on the road when we really are
- 25:23Speaker 1: battling it out for a division title.
- 25:26Speaker 4: I get that interesting.
- 25:28Speaker 1: But he was terrivic last night. His defense behind him
- 25:31Speaker 1: was terrific last night. Julio came up big with a
- 25:33Speaker 1: three run omer Colt Anderson responded. The kid responded after
- 25:38Speaker 1: a brawl that resulted in the Tigers cutting the lead
- 25:42Speaker 1: to one. Couple of ejections, it wasn't really a brawl,
- 25:46Speaker 1: A bench clearing.
- 25:47Speaker 4: Discussion, yeah, bench clearing chat, yeah.
- 25:49Speaker 1: And then Emerson responds with a home run. Mariners end
- 25:51Speaker 1: up winning. It did feel like it was a complete
- 25:55Speaker 1: and total team effort last night, which is the type
- 25:58Speaker 1: of victory we've been waiting on for a while. And
- 26:01Speaker 1: they went at four to two thanks to Mariners TV.
- 26:03Speaker 1: That was Jay and that was Aaron on the call.
- 26:06Speaker 1: I don't know where Ryan is. I call him Ryan
- 26:08Speaker 1: because he hasn't allowed me to call him hyphen. We
- 26:10Speaker 1: haven't had that discussion yet, not yet. Ed Zoe and
- 26:13Speaker 1: I we had that discussion a long time.
- 26:15Speaker 4: I was there for it.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Yeah, But Ryan and I, no, we haven't had that
- 26:20Speaker 1: one yet. The Cubs swept the Dodgers yesterday. By the way,
- 26:23Speaker 1: since they added Terrek School, they haven't won. They've lost
- 26:25Speaker 1: six straight games, and I hope they lose every game
- 26:28Speaker 1: for the rest of their existence. We're gonna have Hugh
- 26:31Speaker 1: Millan on today to talk about whether or not a
- 26:33Speaker 1: salary cap is going to be good for baseball, because
- 26:36Speaker 1: Hugh Millan was there discussing whether or not a salary
- 26:39Speaker 1: cap was in the room. When a salary cap is
- 26:42Speaker 1: good for the NFL, I mean, what a source. Why
- 26:44Speaker 1: are we not why we have this conversation on the air.
- 26:47Speaker 1: So we're gonna do that today at nine o'clock. I
- 26:50Speaker 1: can't wait for that. Snowhomish Little League won yesterday over Canada.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Since they got beat up by Florida, they have responded.
- 26:57Speaker 1: They've won two straight, including nine to one over Canada yesterday,
- 27:01Speaker 1: so they remain alive in the Little League World Series.
- 27:04Speaker 1: They'll play Friday at noon. The Hall of Fame game
- 27:07Speaker 1: is tonight Arizona versus Carolina in Canton, Ohio, as we
- 27:11Speaker 1: get ready for Hall of Fame weekend as well. But
- 27:14Speaker 1: pre season football tonight at five o'clock, and of course
- 27:17Speaker 1: Seahawks training camp continuing and joining us now to discuss
- 27:22Speaker 1: it is our own Greg Bell.
- 27:24Speaker 2: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the twelfth Man.
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- 27:49Speaker 1: Good morning, Greg, Good morning, how are you?
- 27:54Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah good, I've been up for a while.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is that right? Yeah? I found out that
- 27:59Speaker 1: Greg gets up a lot earlier than seven o'clock. He's
- 28:01Speaker 1: just not knocking the crusties out of his eyes at
- 28:03Speaker 1: seven o'clock and joining us at seven oh five. He's
- 28:05Speaker 1: been up. He's an army guy. Army guy. You probably
- 28:08Speaker 1: were up at four o'clock this morning, weren't you?
- 28:11Speaker 3: Not that before the roosters ran in three or four
- 28:15Speaker 3: miles to three hundred push ups? Some good?
- 28:18Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's there. You go. All right, Well,
- 28:21Speaker 1: let's get into it. Let's uh, let's talk about a
- 28:24Speaker 1: few things before we talk Seahawks. I would I would
- 28:27Speaker 1: ask you like this Aaron Donald's story, Like, you know,
- 28:30Speaker 1: he's trying to ramp up. Is he playing? Is he
- 28:33Speaker 1: not playing? Does this fallow fall under the we do
- 28:36Speaker 1: not care umbrella of Mike McDonald or is this something
- 28:40Speaker 1: that they're at least interested in in that facility.
- 28:46Speaker 3: Well, first of all, shameless plug, I'm gonna have four
- 28:48Speaker 3: hundred lology of TSN Canada. The NFO reporter for TSN
- 28:52Speaker 3: Canada who's in southern California just came to Rams, went
- 28:55Speaker 3: to Rams camp yesterday and saw Darnold working out. I'm
- 28:58Speaker 3: gonna have him on it eleven o'clock today on our show.
- 29:01Speaker 3: They notice the Seahawks. Notice, I mean it's not we
- 29:05Speaker 3: do not care. That sounds great and it's a great
- 29:07Speaker 3: sound bite, but absolutely they noticed Miles Garrett. I mentioned
- 29:11Speaker 3: that they noticed Jared Verse went to Cleveland in the
- 29:14Speaker 3: Miles Garrett trade, and they absolutely would notice the best
- 29:18Speaker 3: defensive tackle to ever play rejoining along with Miles Garrett
- 29:23Speaker 3: on the defensive front. Sure, yes, and they would have
- 29:27Speaker 3: to game plan for him, and they would have to
- 29:29Speaker 3: figure out who the double team, and that would be
- 29:31Speaker 3: everybody's problem that plays the Rams. If Donald comes back,
- 29:35Speaker 3: Donald coming back. By the way I talked to far
- 29:38Speaker 3: Hun just act totally. It sounds like he's coming back,
- 29:42Speaker 3: but he's just smart enough not to do it on
- 29:45Speaker 3: August sixth. He's gonna wait till September the first or so.
- 29:49Speaker 3: That's what it sounds like. He's not going to play
- 29:53Speaker 3: every down when he comes back, right, he's been out
- 29:55Speaker 3: of the league for what three years now. It'll take
- 29:57Speaker 3: a ramp up, but by the time the Ram play
- 30:00Speaker 3: the Seahawks on Christmas Night for the first time, he
- 30:03Speaker 3: will be playing probably every down. To answer your question, yes,
- 30:08Speaker 3: they're noticing in Seahawks headquarters, and yeah, this is a
- 30:13Speaker 3: big deal. It's there's someone that the coaches in that
- 30:17Speaker 3: building that have to game plan how to block the Rams.
- 30:19Speaker 3: That is a big deal.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Uh. You know what, the thing that stood out the
- 30:23Speaker 1: most about that entire commentary was that and we know this,
- 30:29Speaker 1: I knew this, but that they will play a division
- 30:31Speaker 1: opponent who they have to face twice for the first
- 30:34Speaker 1: time on Christmas Day.
- 30:36Speaker 3: Yes, it is crazy. And every time we've asked about
- 30:40Speaker 3: all the Rams and are you ticked off that everybody's
- 30:43Speaker 3: saying the Rams are the Super Bowl favorites aren't you annoyed?
- 30:46Speaker 3: Everyone says, man, we got months and months, Yeah, fourteen
- 30:50Speaker 3: opponents before we worry about the rams. I mean, yes,
- 30:54Speaker 3: the rams are a problem, but that's a problem so
- 30:56Speaker 3: far down the road after all the other issues we're
- 30:58Speaker 3: gonna have to get through.
- 30:59Speaker 1: You have no idea he's even going to be healthy
- 31:01Speaker 1: at that point, what the story's going to be at
- 31:03Speaker 1: that point. So uh yeah, we had a lot of football.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Yep.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks Insider segment brought
- 31:10Speaker 1: to you by The Emerald Queen Casino, and he'll be
- 31:11Speaker 1: joining us throughout the football season and usually at seven
- 31:14Speaker 1: oh five. Yesterday we used him for an entire hour
- 31:16Speaker 1: from nine to ten, because we're selfish like that. Well,
- 31:19Speaker 1: yesterday's training camp practice, Man, it seemed like the guy
- 31:22Speaker 1: the creating buzz is arguably the best player on the team,
- 31:26Speaker 1: arguably the best wide receiver in the world. Jackson Smith
- 31:30Speaker 1: and Jigba I hear put on a show yesterday. Tell
- 31:33Speaker 1: me about it.
- 31:34Speaker 3: Yeah, that was part of my story up right now
- 31:36Speaker 3: at the Neewstribune dot com. Look, the best way I
- 31:40Speaker 3: guess I can describe how routinely brilliant he is yesterday,
- 31:45Speaker 3: they were in seven on seven and Josh Job was
- 31:49Speaker 3: in press coverage. Rat the lightest scrimmage jammed them at
- 31:53Speaker 3: the line and Smith and Jigbud just took off right
- 31:57Speaker 3: at him and was heading past him and darn through
- 32:01Speaker 3: a short hitch out to the back shoulder as if
- 32:03Speaker 3: he thought that Smith and Jigg was going to stop,
- 32:06Speaker 3: and Smith and Jagba cap running and the pass just
- 32:08Speaker 3: skidded about five yards away from anybody. I went to nowhere.
- 32:12Speaker 3: That's probably the only time in two years I've seen
- 32:15Speaker 3: Donald and Smith and Jig but not connecting on the
- 32:18Speaker 3: same wavelength. That's how it startled me. I was like, WHOA,
- 32:22Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen that. That's how
- 32:24Speaker 3: good they are. That's how good he is every day.
- 32:28Speaker 3: He made a catch on the sideline yesterday that most
- 32:31Speaker 3: guys get made because he couldn't get away from the defender,
- 32:33Speaker 3: who was Neemiah Pritchett, who was all over him. Then
- 32:36Speaker 3: he ran right past Pritchett, who has had a really
- 32:38Speaker 3: good camp as the new fifth defensive back when they
- 32:41Speaker 3: go nickel. He's really smooth in his route, running, his body,
- 32:46Speaker 3: his leverage. We've seen how when balls are in the air,
- 32:50Speaker 3: how he puts guys on the defenders on their back
- 32:52Speaker 3: like a basketball player rebounding a ball. Because he's not
- 32:58Speaker 3: super big, he can control his body better than most receivers,
- 33:03Speaker 3: and it's on full display here in training camp. He
- 33:06Speaker 3: can always put himself in perfect position to catch the ball,
- 33:11Speaker 3: and usually the gain yards after the catch. It it's
- 33:15Speaker 3: almost it's not quite out of nowhere. We've seen it
- 33:17Speaker 3: since he got here as a rookie, but now that
- 33:19Speaker 3: they've traded DK Metcalf and they have just centered the offense,
- 33:22Speaker 3: the passing game around him, the results speak for them.
- 33:25Speaker 3: Eighteen hundred yards, the eighth fest of NFL history, one
- 33:29Speaker 3: hundred and twenty plus catches, and we talked yesterday how
- 33:33Speaker 3: he may not have those same numbers if they spread
- 33:36Speaker 3: the ball around the tight ends and running backs like
- 33:38Speaker 3: it looks like Brian Fleury intends to do. But he's
- 33:41Speaker 3: still elite and route running and body control it. For
- 33:47Speaker 3: those Sea York fans who been here a day or two,
- 33:49Speaker 3: he's like Steve Largin in that way, and again that
- 33:53Speaker 3: I don't throw that around lightly, but the body control
- 33:56Speaker 3: the size, the technique of how he gets open it's
- 34:01Speaker 3: very similar.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I know I'm forcing this conversation because
- 34:05Speaker 1: I find it fascinating. So I keep asking you, and
- 34:07Speaker 1: I keep asking you, and I keep asking others about
- 34:10Speaker 1: how they're going to spread the ball around, and and
- 34:12Speaker 1: I know in theory there that the idea would be
- 34:16Speaker 1: to get more players involved, to make the offense look
- 34:20Speaker 1: more multi dimensional, so you can't key on one player.
- 34:24Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is that connection last year,
- 34:28Speaker 1: I have a feeling that when it actually when the
- 34:32Speaker 1: games actually start getting played and when push comes to shove,
- 34:37Speaker 1: Sam's not going to think about spreading the ball around.
- 34:39Speaker 1: He's gonna throw to the open receiver, and he trusts JSN,
- 34:43Speaker 1: And until I don't see him catch eight passes a game,
- 34:47Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust that he probably is going to continue
- 34:49Speaker 1: to do that.
- 34:50Speaker 3: Greg. Yeah, it's that's that's true, and that's entirely possible.
- 34:55Speaker 3: And that's I would add estimate forty some percent at
- 35:00Speaker 3: the time that they're throwing the ball that it doesn't
- 35:03Speaker 3: go to the design player, maybe whether the team blitzes
- 35:06Speaker 3: or they're in a different coverage than they expected, or
- 35:08Speaker 3: what you just said, Donald, human nature. Donald, when Miles
- 35:15Speaker 3: Garrett is closing in on him Christmas night, Sam Donald
- 35:18Speaker 3: will in the back of in front and side of
- 35:20Speaker 3: his mind. Remember, oh, that number eleven has been pretty
- 35:22Speaker 3: good when I throw to him, and he's going to
- 35:25Speaker 3: do it. And you're right. No matter what Bryan Fleury
- 35:28Speaker 3: dials up, no matter what they've studied and rehearsed in
- 35:31Speaker 3: game planning for that, the quarterback decides when the actual
- 35:36Speaker 3: remember beats the road where the ball goes, and the
- 35:39Speaker 3: ball is going to go to Jackson Smith and Jigbo
- 35:41Speaker 3: when they have to have something for sure.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, they might have both Steve
- 35:47Speaker 1: Largins in the National Football League. I mean, one's older
- 35:50Speaker 1: and at the end of his career. But Cooper Cup
- 35:53Speaker 1: had one of the greatest individual seasons in the history
- 35:55Speaker 1: of the sport. And I've heard that he looks renewed.
- 36:00Speaker 1: I've heard that he looks younger than he has the
- 36:04Speaker 1: last couple of years, healthier than he's looked the last
- 36:06Speaker 1: couple of years. What's Cup? We talked about his leadership
- 36:09Speaker 1: and his knowledge yesterday on in our hour together, But
- 36:13Speaker 1: what about the football player that we still have in
- 36:15Speaker 1: Cooper Cup.
- 36:16Speaker 3: Yeah, Cooper Cup doesn't stink. He's very good. He's thirty
- 36:21Speaker 3: three years old. Mike mcdonaldy said yesterday it's the best
- 36:24Speaker 3: he's ever seen him, including him in ten years. He
- 36:26Speaker 3: studied him when the Ravens, the Ravens teams had to
- 36:29Speaker 3: play the Rams. He he is always in prime physical condition.
- 36:36Speaker 3: He really works hard at being in shape and conditioning
- 36:41Speaker 3: and all of that. And for a thirty three year
- 36:44Speaker 3: old dad, he looks like an Olympian. I mean, just physique,
- 36:49Speaker 3: sculpted movement, no wasted movement. He's just really good. And
- 36:55Speaker 3: I know the numbers were down last year and then
- 36:58Speaker 3: the Rams gave up on him because of the injuries.
- 37:00Speaker 3: He's not injured anymore, and that really brings him back
- 37:03Speaker 3: to like four or five years ago, to his height
- 37:06Speaker 3: of his or just after he won the nflp or
- 37:10Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. He's
- 37:15Speaker 3: a coach. We mentioned that, and unless he's valuable to
- 37:18Speaker 3: the room and hard knocks. Audium saw that the other night.
- 37:21Speaker 3: But he's still a really damn good football player now
- 37:24Speaker 3: that he's healthy again. Greg bellt it this way, if
- 37:26Speaker 3: he was like this, then Rams would have never let
- 37:29Speaker 3: him go. But of course that's the NFL works, you
- 37:31Speaker 3: get hurt, you get expensive, they let you go.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Greg Bell, whether it's a Seahawks insider. Of course, you
- 37:35Speaker 1: can follow a Seahawks coverage at the Newstribune dot com
- 37:38Speaker 1: and at g Bel Seattle, which will lead to his
- 37:41Speaker 1: coverage as well, and joining us here at seven oh
- 37:45Speaker 1: five most every day during the football season. Let's talk
- 37:48Speaker 1: about the offensive line. You and I discussed this a
- 37:51Speaker 1: little bit yesterday and a little bit off the air.
- 37:54Speaker 1: We just did a camp battle, right guard. Is it
- 37:57Speaker 1: safe to say that that there were I mean, barring
- 38:01Speaker 1: an injury, of course, that they believe that the starting
- 38:05Speaker 1: five is set. I mean it would take a real
- 38:08Speaker 1: upset for anybody to root a starter from a year
- 38:13Speaker 1: ago the Super Bowl offensive line out of his position.
- 38:16Speaker 3: Yes, they're not putting anyone in to compete with anybody
- 38:19Speaker 3: at the starting five. They are really valuing the continuity.
- 38:23Speaker 3: They talk about it all the time. John Benton in
- 38:25Speaker 3: the second year running it back with the same five guys.
- 38:28Speaker 3: Brian Fleury mentioned how rare that is, especially for a
- 38:31Speaker 3: Super Bowl team, to have all five of your starters
- 38:33Speaker 3: coming back. Usually one of those guys get paid in
- 38:35Speaker 3: free agency and leave no and Fleury says it shows up.
- 38:40Speaker 3: He's really startled about how how cohesive they are, how
- 38:44Speaker 3: they pick up things so quickly, how they make adjustments
- 38:47Speaker 3: on the fly, protection calls, how seamless everything is for
- 38:51Speaker 3: these offensive linement. They're not breaking that up. There's no
- 38:55Speaker 3: Christian Haynes battling with Anthony Bradford. I was expecting Bo
- 38:58Speaker 3: Stevens to at least potentially have some kind of impact
- 39:03Speaker 3: to see what he might have, what they might have
- 39:05Speaker 3: in Stevens be on the end of Bradford's contract after
- 39:08Speaker 3: this season, and Stevens is firmly entrenched as the third
- 39:11Speaker 3: strings right guard. He's not even Sniff's second team. And
- 39:15Speaker 3: we all know that Christian Haynes has failed three or
- 39:17Speaker 3: four times to win the job. Two different coaching stats
- 39:21Speaker 3: have tried, and two different line coaches have tried to
- 39:23Speaker 3: give him the job, and he's not one of them.
- 39:25Speaker 3: Anthony Bradford is the undisputed right guard. There is no competition.
- 39:29Speaker 3: As you said, it would take an injury for that
- 39:31Speaker 3: to change. They're going to ride with him through the
- 39:34Speaker 3: season and then it's their peers are going to offer
- 39:37Speaker 3: him a contract extension. Now, whether it's Rich enough for
- 39:40Speaker 3: Enticing to stay or whether he'll try free agency for
- 39:44Speaker 3: the first time. And that's a very big enticement for
- 39:46Speaker 3: players in the NFL to get their first chance at
- 39:48Speaker 3: free agency. After the rookie deals up to Bradford and
- 39:51Speaker 3: his agent, it appears they really love the continuity in
- 39:55Speaker 3: the offense. They finally feel like there's some not only stability,
- 40:00Speaker 3: but success on the offensive. How many times have we
- 40:03Speaker 3: been talking for the last ten years before last year
- 40:05Speaker 3: about the offensive line, right, Well, they feel like that
- 40:08Speaker 3: has salved and the the solver has been John Benton,
- 40:11Speaker 3: and John Benton wants the same guy for five guys starting.
- 40:14Speaker 3: I'm really surprised that there was absolutely zero competition, and
- 40:18Speaker 3: it just reminds me that Benton loves these five guys
- 40:21Speaker 3: staying together.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Ye what else did you see yesterday that was interesting
- 40:25Speaker 1: to you?
- 40:27Speaker 3: Well, they gave it looked like it was a veteran
- 40:30Speaker 3: rest day for Devin Witherspoon. He did all the individual
- 40:34Speaker 3: drills and then they didn't scrimmage, So no egg monogamy
- 40:38Speaker 3: was the starting Nickel, the veteran eighth year O cornerback.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I wrote a story that's up at the News Tribune
- 40:45Speaker 3: Dot com right now about no egg monogamy. His parents
- 40:48Speaker 3: from Nigerian Olympians. His mother was a four one hundred
- 40:53Speaker 3: and one hundred meter sprinter for her home country in
- 40:56Speaker 3: Nigeria in the ninety two Humpics in Barcelona, and his
- 40:59Speaker 3: father was a long jump triple jump in nineteen ninety
- 41:03Speaker 3: six for Nigeria in the Atlanta Games. His mother actually
- 41:06Speaker 3: won a bronze medal on that relay team. He ran
- 41:09Speaker 3: track Noah did at Auburn. His sister ran track at Auburn.
- 41:13Speaker 3: His mother did a track at international elite level and
- 41:17Speaker 3: was a bronze medalist while going through nursing school. His
- 41:20Speaker 3: sister's going through nursing school. His father went through nursing school.
- 41:23Speaker 3: It's a very interesting background. He was not on defense
- 41:27Speaker 3: until his second year at Auburn. Was a wide receiver
- 41:31Speaker 3: when he got to Auburn, and he only played two
- 41:34Speaker 3: He was so good at cornerback. He only played two
- 41:36Speaker 3: years and ended the NFL early in twenty twenty. He
- 41:39Speaker 3: was a first round draft pick of the Miami Dolphins
- 41:41Speaker 3: and the thirtieth pick overall, but because he was so
- 41:44Speaker 3: brand new to corner he wasn't good enough at the
- 41:47Speaker 3: NFL level, and he barely played for the four year
- 41:51Speaker 3: four starts in three years for a number one draft
- 41:53Speaker 3: pick in Miami. But then Dan Quinn changed him, and, man,
- 41:57Speaker 3: you want to talk about a guy. We talked a
- 41:59Speaker 3: lot to a lot of people around the Seahawks who
- 42:00Speaker 3: loved Dan Quinn. No Higmaanogamy loves dan Quinn because Quinn
- 42:05Speaker 3: rescued his career had him as when Quinn was a
- 42:08Speaker 3: defensive coordinator for the Cowboys. The one season in twenty
- 42:11Speaker 3: twenty three that Ignitogamy played for the Cowboys, Quinn moved
- 42:14Speaker 3: Ignomy to nickel. He had never played nickel before inside
- 42:19Speaker 3: of the slock because he'd only been playing corner for
- 42:21Speaker 3: a couple of years and he didn't know the nuances.
- 42:24Speaker 3: He didn't know how to play. He was telling me
- 42:26Speaker 3: how to play off coverage. He thought he could just
- 42:28Speaker 3: backpedal straight back. Here's shading and leveraging. You need the
- 42:32Speaker 3: Quinn taught him all that. Quinn goes and gets the
- 42:35Speaker 3: Washington Commander's job, head job in twenty twenty four, and
- 42:37Speaker 3: he brought Ignitogamy with him to be the free agent
- 42:40Speaker 3: that he made a starter ten starts at nickelback for
- 42:43Speaker 3: the Washington and it changed his career. He said he
- 42:46Speaker 3: now knows how to play football he was playing NFL football,
- 42:48Speaker 3: and how to prepare in his film study and read
- 42:50Speaker 3: offenses and receivers. He's a diamond in the rough, veteran
- 42:54Speaker 3: corner eighth year. The Seahawks need on a very young
- 42:58Speaker 3: secondary and their cornerbacks in particular are really young. And
- 43:02Speaker 3: there's another oburn the I Nami Pritchett, who's been getting
- 43:05Speaker 3: run as the fifth back when they go to nickel
- 43:07Speaker 3: and with this spoon goes insides. But they need depth
- 43:09Speaker 3: there and it looks like no Ignan Agmay's going to
- 43:12Speaker 3: make the team. And he can also return kicks and
- 43:15Speaker 3: special teams as well. He used to be a track
- 43:16Speaker 3: guy too.
- 43:17Speaker 1: All right, Well read more.
- 43:19Speaker 3: Yeah. The other thing I wouldn't say is Jake Bobo
- 43:22Speaker 3: Julian Neil remain out. They've been practiced in a week.
- 43:25Speaker 3: I'm told it's a hamstring injury for Bobo, it's a
- 43:27Speaker 3: leg injury for Neil. Neil's the third round pick, the
- 43:30Speaker 3: rooky third round pick. They've been out. Mike Morris has
- 43:33Speaker 3: been out injured. There's a good chunk of guys that
- 43:36Speaker 3: have been out injured, which is part of the reason
- 43:37Speaker 3: they went in shells yesterday and not full pads. Mike
- 43:40Speaker 3: Doland said, today's an act practice, which is short t shirts,
- 43:45Speaker 3: bucket hats, just for an hour. They're really late today.
- 43:48Speaker 1: All right, we'll read more at the Newstribune dot com.
- 43:51Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. We'll listen at ten o'clock today.
- 43:54Speaker 3: All right. Thanks, Happy Thursday.
- 43:55Speaker 1: All right, Greg bell I sealwks inside of joining us
- 43:57Speaker 1: thanks to the emeral Queen Casino right here on the
- 44:00Speaker 1: radio program nearly every day at seven oh five during
- 44:03Speaker 1: the football campaign. Coming up next, more on the Mariners
- 44:07Speaker 1: their win last night the ABC's of the MS Come
- 44:10Speaker 1: your way on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 44:13Speaker 1: It's Chuck and Ashley with you. Good morning to you
- 44:15Speaker 1: here on this Thursday. Back in studio. Feels so good
- 44:18Speaker 1: to be back in studio. I mean, it's fun going
- 44:21Speaker 1: out to training camp. It's different, but really for four
- 44:25Speaker 1: hours I talked to grass.
- 44:27Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's nice to make and listen to lawnmowers
- 44:30Speaker 4: and listen to lawnmowers for sure.
- 44:33Speaker 1: Uh, but here we are in studio and perfect place
- 44:37Speaker 1: for the ABCS. Of the ems. We left off of
- 44:39Speaker 1: the letter Jay yesterday, and Jay has got to be
- 44:41Speaker 1: for Julio. I tell you, I'll make this stuff up.
- 44:44Speaker 4: Yeah you didn't. You didn't rearrange the alphabet exactly.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Jays for Julio, who was savage last night. Keep using
- 44:53Speaker 1: that word over and over. But he went to the
- 44:57Speaker 1: plate last night with two to one. Dom Canzone walked
- 45:00Speaker 1: in front of him, and he went up there with
- 45:02Speaker 1: dangerous intent and he crushed a three run homer to
- 45:07Speaker 1: right field. He knew it, he celebrated it, He celebrated
- 45:11Speaker 1: it with his teammates as he rounded the bases as well.
- 45:15Speaker 1: I mean, it's been another one of those years with
- 45:19Speaker 1: Julio where he still has not had I mean, he's
- 45:23Speaker 1: had a terrific career, a terrific career, he really has,
- 45:28Speaker 1: and we are taking it for granted as a community,
- 45:32Speaker 1: but we just think that there's another level that he
- 45:35Speaker 1: can reach, and then he has these long stretches of
- 45:38Speaker 1: being ineffective that if he didn't have those, what kind
- 45:43Speaker 1: of numbers would he be putting up for the season.
- 45:46Speaker 1: I float a theory towards you because I recently read
- 45:50Speaker 1: something and I don't know if it's without merit that
- 45:53Speaker 1: what is Kevin Sitzer done to Julio's swing? Because remember
- 45:58Speaker 1: all those times we complain about that he was trying
- 46:00Speaker 1: to hit a seven hundred foot home run. Yeah, I
- 46:03Speaker 1: think Kevin Sitzer tried to fix that. And what you
- 46:06Speaker 1: have seen this season, more so than past seasons, is
- 46:09Speaker 1: Julio's this dedication toward staying up the middle, staying gap
- 46:14Speaker 1: to gap, and it hasn't really worked out. He's hit
- 46:16Speaker 1: a lot of line drives right at the shortstop, playing
- 46:20Speaker 1: him up the middle or right to the center field,
- 46:23Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. He's had a lot
- 46:25Speaker 1: of bad luck at the plate so far this season.
- 46:28Speaker 1: But I think it's part of a plan from Sitzer
- 46:32Speaker 1: that if we can teach you this, and then once
- 46:37Speaker 1: you've got this, we are going to let you expand
- 46:40Speaker 1: out further. We're gonna let you swing for the fences
- 46:43Speaker 1: more frequently. It's gonna truly unlock you, but we got
- 46:47Speaker 1: to break you down to Edgar Martinez fundamentals first, and
- 46:53Speaker 1: then we're gonna let you fly. It's kind of like
- 46:54Speaker 1: training a race horse that really that has all the
- 46:58Speaker 1: speed in the world, but you got to teach it
- 47:01Speaker 1: how to race, and sometimes they will restrict that horse. No,
- 47:05Speaker 1: you can't run. I know you want to run. I
- 47:06Speaker 1: know you're fighting me to run, but you can't run.
- 47:09Speaker 1: And it takes a long time to break that horse
- 47:11Speaker 1: and to get the horse to figure it out. And
- 47:13Speaker 1: then if you watch Seabiscuit, then at one point you
- 47:16Speaker 1: just like all right, the trainer looks at you, he says,
- 47:19Speaker 1: let her run. And I don't know, maybe it was
- 47:23Speaker 1: just an outlier, maybe, but that that approach last night,
- 47:29Speaker 1: because it wasn't trying to hit the ball five thousand feet.
- 47:32Speaker 1: It was I'm looking for something and I'm going to
- 47:36Speaker 1: hit the crud out of it. That's what he went
- 47:39Speaker 1: to the plate looking to do. And he succeeded, Yes,
- 47:43Speaker 1: he did. So I hope it unlocks something. I hope
- 47:46Speaker 1: this theory of mine that I just half baked concocted
- 47:50Speaker 1: on the drive in today actually holds some water because
- 47:54Speaker 1: we know there's another level for him to reach, and
- 47:57Speaker 1: more so than any Taylor Ward edition or Brendan Donovan activation.
- 48:02Speaker 1: I mean, we got to get Julio hitting like Julio
- 48:05Speaker 1: can hit, and we got to get Cal hitting close
- 48:08Speaker 1: to the way Cal can hit. If we're gonna pull
- 48:10Speaker 1: this thing off. I really believe that as at the
- 48:13Speaker 1: core of this, those two guys can no longer, not
- 48:16Speaker 1: for one more day, be bad at the plate. And
- 48:20Speaker 1: I don't know if Julio's ever been bad this year,
- 48:22Speaker 1: but Cal has that's gonna be the key to all
- 48:24Speaker 1: of this. And I hope what we saw out of
- 48:27Speaker 1: Julio has unlocked something because we're gonna need him.
- 48:30Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and if those two could both gosh,
- 48:34Speaker 4: I just got really excited thinking about, like the idea
- 48:36Speaker 4: that if they could. When they both had their home
- 48:39Speaker 4: runs in the same game and it had been since
- 48:40Speaker 4: April that they've done it, I was so excited thinking, Okay,
- 48:44Speaker 4: here we go.
- 48:45Speaker 3: And.
- 48:46Speaker 4: I just I just want I want to will it
- 48:49Speaker 4: to happen. I want to like call the Etsy Witch
- 48:51Speaker 4: and be like, hey, do you got one more spelling
- 48:53Speaker 4: you for us?
- 48:54Speaker 1: It's funny when that game occurred, I wanted to see
- 48:58Speaker 1: and maybe it occurred, I don't know, just didn't show
- 49:01Speaker 1: up on camera. I wanted to see Cal come over
- 49:04Speaker 1: to Julio and say, you and me, buddy, like just
- 49:06Speaker 1: a little private conversation, you and me. Yeah, that's all
- 49:10Speaker 1: you and me I wanted to kind of see that,
- 49:12Speaker 1: like we both homered on the same day. Let's do this,
- 49:16Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe it occurred, maybe it didn't.
- 49:18Speaker 1: I'd like to think of it too. I like to
- 49:21Speaker 1: see both of those guys get hot right now. Those
- 49:23Speaker 1: guys get hot. Those two guys get hot.
- 49:25Speaker 3: Right now.
- 49:25Speaker 1: We're winning the division by five games. Yeah, okay, K
- 49:29Speaker 1: is for the k DAN three thousand, Another little half
- 49:35Speaker 1: baked idea I have this morning. Maybe there are a
- 49:40Speaker 1: lot of good things about Dan Wilson that he brings
- 49:43Speaker 1: to the table on a daily basis for this team,
- 49:46Speaker 1: But for the things he doesn't do well, we've got AI. Now,
- 49:50Speaker 1: can we have the k DAN ten three thousand, or
- 49:54Speaker 1: can we just have like a tag team coaching staff?
- 49:58Speaker 1: Like last night, for example, not the fieriest ejection I've
- 50:02Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. It looked like he was
- 50:04Speaker 1: more worried about losing his gum than actually making his point.
- 50:10Speaker 1: And I would like to see Dan have his gum
- 50:13Speaker 1: taken away from him because the way he chomps his
- 50:15Speaker 1: gum makes me think that our manager is nervous for
- 50:19Speaker 1: nine innings, and I don't want our manager to appear nervous.
- 50:22Speaker 1: I want the commander of the ship to be the
- 50:25Speaker 1: most confident guy, and how the ship's constructed and our
- 50:29Speaker 1: sailing coordinates and everything else. Dan to me looks like
- 50:32Speaker 1: the most nervous guy in the building nearly every game,
- 50:35Speaker 1: the way he chomps that gum. But if you're gonna
- 50:38Speaker 1: go out to argue with an umpire, at least throw
- 50:41Speaker 1: the gum then so it's not in the way of
- 50:43Speaker 1: you telling the ump exactly how you feel. But maybe
- 50:47Speaker 1: this is what we need Ashley for everything that he
- 50:50Speaker 1: struggles at, you know, pitching, change time, AI three thousand,
- 50:54Speaker 1: go out to the mountain. Yeah, make a decision.
- 50:57Speaker 4: I mean, can he also give postgame pressco Yes?
- 51:01Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And maybe it's not a robot. Maybe it's
- 51:04Speaker 1: just we have different coaches, Like a professional wrestler goes
- 51:07Speaker 1: out and argues with the umpire, or you know, Barack
- 51:13Speaker 1: Obama's a great order, will you put politics aside? He
- 51:17Speaker 1: can conduct the postgame perfect.
- 51:19Speaker 4: Everyone would be would leave thinking like I really got
- 51:22Speaker 4: a lot of answers, or did I.
- 51:25Speaker 1: At least we would feel better and me, we'd feel better.
- 51:27Speaker 4: We'd feel like we got answers instead of a recap
- 51:29Speaker 4: of the game. I do think that Dan Wilson went
- 51:32Speaker 4: to the Pete Carroll School of chewing gum, though.
- 51:35Speaker 1: But Pete will throw his gum when he needs to,
- 51:37Speaker 1: and he'll just get a new piece.
- 51:38Speaker 4: I think he left early, Like, I don't think he
- 51:40Speaker 4: finished the whole school. So he got to the part
- 51:43Speaker 4: where you're like, you chew your gum aggressively, but then
- 51:45Speaker 4: what are you supposed to do with it?
- 51:46Speaker 1: Yeah, when you've got to make a point to the official,
- 51:48Speaker 1: that's when Pete would cost the gum and I wanted
- 51:54Speaker 1: to get hit in the eye or something like that.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Dan's just I just take Dan, go away from him.
- 52:01Speaker 1: I just don't like the look. Finally, Elle is for later, dude.
- 52:06Speaker 1: I talked about Mitch Garver yesterday. We really didn't get
- 52:09Speaker 1: to Rob Rethschneider yesterday. Look. I don't have a problem
- 52:14Speaker 1: still at this moment. As bad as ref Snyder was
- 52:17Speaker 1: for the Mariners here on August sixth, twenty twenty six,
- 52:20Speaker 1: three games under five hundred, two and a half games
- 52:22Speaker 1: out of first place, despite having the most talented roster
- 52:24Speaker 1: in the division, I still don't have a problem with
- 52:27Speaker 1: Jerry signing Rob Rethschneinder. I just am not gonna be
- 52:31Speaker 1: that way. I thought it was a good idea, not
- 52:35Speaker 1: a great idea. I thought it was a fine idea
- 52:37Speaker 1: in the moment. So I'm not gonna crush the front
- 52:42Speaker 1: office for taking a look at numbers and seeing that
- 52:45Speaker 1: this is somebody who has a niche skill that could
- 52:49Speaker 1: help this team win baseball games this year. But once again,
- 52:52Speaker 1: just like with Pollock and Garver and Wong, they've been
- 52:56Speaker 1: a disaster. They have just been a disaster, and so
- 53:00Speaker 1: had it gone on any further, that's when my criticism
- 53:04Speaker 1: seeks into the conversation. I get it. Most people feel like, hey,
- 53:07Speaker 1: you're the general manager, you should foresee that coming. Every
- 53:10Speaker 1: general manager makes good moves, bad moves. Sometimes they pay
- 53:16Speaker 1: off more than what the general manager thought that that
- 53:18Speaker 1: was going to pay off. And sometimes you make a
- 53:21Speaker 1: good move and it doesn't work out. That's how I
- 53:24Speaker 1: Judge's that makes me different, I guess than a lot
- 53:27Speaker 1: of people out there, but that's how I judge. I
- 53:29Speaker 1: don't think it was a bad decision to sign Rob Refsnyder.
- 53:33Speaker 1: I think it turned out to be really bad and
- 53:36Speaker 1: had it gone any further with two activations, award acquisition
- 53:40Speaker 1: and Donovan coming off the aisle. Had we kept him
- 53:43Speaker 1: on the roster, then I would have started criticizing it.
- 53:45Speaker 1: You got to cut your losses now, man, enough We've
- 53:47Speaker 1: given him enough time to prove whether or not he
- 53:50Speaker 1: can fulfill this role that you're paying him seven million
- 53:53Speaker 1: dollars to fulfill. He can't do it. And the fact
- 53:56Speaker 1: that he's beating himself up internally, just like Garver did
- 53:59Speaker 1: when he got here, shows you he's not coming out
- 54:01Speaker 1: of this. And so I know Rob Refsneider really wanted
- 54:06Speaker 1: to come through for all of you, and I know
- 54:08Speaker 1: that Jerry and Justin thought this was a really good
- 54:11Speaker 1: move and a lot of people agree with this at
- 54:12Speaker 1: the time. It didn't work out and it was time
- 54:15Speaker 1: to let him go. And it really is a mystery
- 54:19Speaker 1: why they can't find a veteran right handed hitter who
- 54:22Speaker 1: crushes lefties his entire career basically, and when they get
- 54:26Speaker 1: here are awful, not only just mediocre, just awful. But
- 54:30Speaker 1: it happened again this year with Rob.
- 54:31Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no problem with them signing him because
- 54:33Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to read into
- 54:35Speaker 4: the future and know that that's going to happen. But
- 54:37Speaker 4: I do think they held on to him too later.
- 54:40Speaker 4: I think they got rid of him earlier.
- 54:43Speaker 1: All right, coming up next something starting today, Something's happening
- 54:48Speaker 1: here and we're going to discuss it for the next
- 54:50Speaker 1: segment and a half on Sports Radio ninety three point
- 54:52Speaker 1: three KJRFM. Jedfish and the Dogs are going to get
- 54:56Speaker 1: practice started today officially, and so let us launch the
- 54:59Speaker 1: two only twenty six college football season camp style here
- 55:04Speaker 1: on the radio program your home Sports Radio ninety three
- 55:08Speaker 1: point three KHRFM for Washington Huskies football. And joining us
- 55:12Speaker 1: now on our radio show is the brand new voice
- 55:15Speaker 1: of the Dogs, a familiar name, a familiar voice to you.
- 55:20Speaker 1: Elise Woodward now joins us here on the show. Good morning, Elise,
- 55:24Speaker 1: Oh good morning.
- 55:25Speaker 7: Let me pinch myself with that introduction. How about like,
- 55:27Speaker 7: oh yeah, that's me, let's go.
- 55:31Speaker 1: You're the voice. Are you gonna put that like on
- 55:33Speaker 1: your vanity plates and things like that?
- 55:36Speaker 8: I already have it ordered, just the voice of the
- 55:38Speaker 8: Big w That's how I roll.
- 55:41Speaker 7: In case you didn't know, I'm going, you know, full
- 55:46Speaker 7: like purple. What was Jimmy Lake pulled up in a car?
- 55:50Speaker 7: Was like a purple Mustang. Maybe. Yeah, that's not my style.
- 55:54Speaker 7: Not my style.
- 55:56Speaker 1: You've got to do it now, now that you put
- 55:58Speaker 1: it out there in the universe. I want you to
- 56:00Speaker 1: pull up in a big you know, with the hydraulics,
- 56:03Speaker 1: a big giant purple truck and roll in on your
- 56:06Speaker 1: first day of work.
- 56:09Speaker 7: I drop it like it's Hotchuck. That's how I roll.
- 56:13Speaker 1: I mean, in all serious this league. I mean, how
- 56:16Speaker 1: long have you thought about wanting to do this and
- 56:21Speaker 1: when did you start thinking that maybe it could happen
- 56:25Speaker 1: that you could be the voice of the Huskies.
- 56:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:28Speaker 8: You know, it's kind of crazy because you know, I
- 56:30Speaker 8: do play by player for so many other sports and
- 56:33Speaker 8: so many other things. And I've done it for Tony
- 56:35Speaker 8: when he was on Attornity and I called football for
- 56:37Speaker 8: the pactwel.
- 56:37Speaker 7: Of Network for TV.
- 56:40Speaker 8: But I think because I've done sideline for so many years,
- 56:43Speaker 8: twenty three years, and.
- 56:44Speaker 7: I loved it.
- 56:45Speaker 8: I loved everything about it. It's just a totally new
- 56:48Speaker 8: role to go up in the booth.
- 56:49Speaker 7: So, I mean, it is a dream. There's no doubt.
- 56:52Speaker 7: I've thought about, oh man, what if, what if?
- 56:54Speaker 8: But you know, Tony, I had no indication that he
- 56:58Speaker 8: was going to leave.
- 56:59Speaker 7: Like it was like he gave me a call.
- 57:01Speaker 8: The next day he was gone, Like there wasn't a
- 57:03Speaker 8: lot of time to think about it and I and
- 57:05Speaker 8: it was. But when he did, I was like, Okay,
- 57:09Speaker 8: let's go this. You know, this could be my you know,
- 57:11Speaker 8: chance to get up in the booth and and uh,
- 57:15Speaker 8: you know have fun in a in a brand new
- 57:16Speaker 8: role with Cam. So yeah, it's it's crazy how quick things.
- 57:21Speaker 7: Change in your world.
- 57:24Speaker 8: And so here we go spind the wheel and uh
- 57:27Speaker 8: and get up to the booth.
- 57:29Speaker 7: That's that's the uh, that's this season. So I'm really
- 57:31Speaker 7: I'm really really excited about it. And it's it's it.
- 57:36Speaker 8: Is a dream come true, like to even think of,
- 57:39Speaker 8: you know, being the voice of the Huskies. And you know,
- 57:42Speaker 8: I go way way back with Bob Rondo. When I
- 57:45Speaker 8: was in college at U DUB, I was interning in
- 57:48Speaker 8: I was a broadcast communications major, and they did the
- 57:51Speaker 8: coaches show it you Dub with my basketball coach Jundhorty
- 57:55Speaker 8: rest In Peace and Bumpenner. Those are the two coaches
- 57:57Speaker 8: at the time, and I had to take tape. My
- 58:00Speaker 8: job was two things, and I took it very seriously
- 58:02Speaker 8: because Bob was like a perfectionist, and I had to
- 58:05Speaker 8: take those beta tapes if anybody remembers what those are,
- 58:08Speaker 8: and drive them physically back to the station in Belvy
- 58:11Speaker 8: so we could put them on the air. But my
- 58:13Speaker 8: other thing was called reasks, and we only had one camera,
- 58:16Speaker 8: and so we would start with the two shot of.
- 58:19Speaker 7: Bob and the coach, and then we would take the.
- 58:21Speaker 8: Camera and we'd just put it on the coach and
- 58:23Speaker 8: all the questions would be asked with the coach on camera,
- 58:26Speaker 8: and then the coach would leave and I would be
- 58:28Speaker 8: the one that would have to remind Bob of what
- 58:30Speaker 8: his questions were for these things called reasks. And I
- 58:34Speaker 8: remember one time I kind of fumbled the one question.
- 58:36Speaker 8: I didn't get it, and Bob was like, that is
- 58:38Speaker 8: not how it went, that is not what I said.
- 58:40Speaker 8: And I was like, we are perfectionists and we will
- 58:42Speaker 8: be perfectionists from now on.
- 58:44Speaker 7: Bob, I got it.
- 58:45Speaker 1: I got it.
- 58:46Speaker 7: So we go way back, and I mean, what a
- 58:49Speaker 7: great mentor to have.
- 58:50Speaker 8: And you know, he was one of the first people
- 58:53Speaker 8: that I chatted with after I made this decision, and
- 58:56Speaker 8: before I made this decision to get its thoughts.
- 58:59Speaker 7: So and Tony great too.
- 59:00Speaker 8: Tony was such a great dude to work with, so
- 59:04Speaker 8: you know, hopefully I'll just you know, be able to
- 59:09Speaker 8: carry on at the same level as those two guys
- 59:11Speaker 8: work because they were great.
- 59:12Speaker 1: Yeah, well, congratulations on it. And yeah, I would think
- 59:15Speaker 1: that getting the thumbs up from Bob Rondo would lift
- 59:19Speaker 1: you a few feet off the ground. And then I
- 59:22Speaker 1: would assume just over the years, you've been taking notes
- 59:25Speaker 1: about what castor cone was screwing up so that you
- 59:27Speaker 1: don't make those same mistakes.
- 59:28Speaker 7: Right, absolutely, totally.
- 59:31Speaker 8: Yes, I was a very large notepad, but it's all
- 59:34Speaker 8: about soaping the rain.
- 59:36Speaker 7: So unfortunately I don't have those notes to bring with me.
- 59:39Speaker 1: All right, well, well let's go ahead and just talk
- 59:42Speaker 1: about the team. With camp starting today of the season.
- 59:45Speaker 1: Pretty much right around the corner, Ashley and I were
- 59:49Speaker 1: just having a conversation, like, I get that the goals
- 59:52Speaker 1: the college football playoff. That should not There should be
- 59:55Speaker 1: no other goal this season than to make the college
- 59:58Speaker 1: football Playoff. It doesn't happen just because you really want
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: it to, or it's time to make that next step.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: I think this team's got to show a lot of
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: improvement from last season in a lot of areas, especially
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: against the best competition and the big ten, in order
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: to make that big, giant leap. So it's one thing
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: to have at that goal, But is it in the cards.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: Do you feel like this team could get there this
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: year if they improve in X, Y and Z areas well?
- 1:00:28Speaker 7: And I think that's spot on. I think all of
- 1:00:30Speaker 7: that is accurate.
- 1:00:31Speaker 8: I think we saw how good they can be last
- 1:00:33Speaker 8: year in glimpses, and it does need to be more
- 1:00:36Speaker 8: consistent against the top twenty five teams.
- 1:00:38Speaker 7: That's the bottom line.
- 1:00:40Speaker 8: I think when you are building a team, what are
- 1:00:42Speaker 8: the most important areas? To me, it's your offensive and
- 1:00:47Speaker 8: defensive line, and it's your quarterback, right those are the
- 1:00:49Speaker 8: spots that you have to have dudes, And I think
- 1:00:52Speaker 8: they do have dudes. I think demand Williams if he
- 1:00:55Speaker 8: continues at his rate of improvement.
- 1:00:57Speaker 7: He's twenty years old.
- 1:00:59Speaker 8: People, he can even legally buy a beer, and he
- 1:01:03Speaker 8: is a third year quarterback with starting.
- 1:01:05Speaker 7: An experience like that's crazy.
- 1:01:07Speaker 8: What has been heaped upon his shoulders and the responsibility
- 1:01:09Speaker 8: and the pressure and all of that. And so I
- 1:01:13Speaker 8: think anytime you see a quarterback, the more experience they get,
- 1:01:16Speaker 8: the more comfortable they get, and there's no hiding the
- 1:01:20Speaker 8: fact that there was, you know, the incident in the
- 1:01:22Speaker 8: off season where he explored the options and came back,
- 1:01:26Speaker 8: and I think there's a lot of outside people to
- 1:01:28Speaker 8: be like, how does that affect this team? And how
- 1:01:30Speaker 8: does that and everything that we've seen and everything we've
- 1:01:33Speaker 8: heard is from a leadership perspective. There's times in life
- 1:01:36Speaker 8: when you have to sit down and really assess who
- 1:01:38Speaker 8: you are, what you are, where you are. And I
- 1:01:41Speaker 8: think that happened for Demand, and I think for Demand
- 1:01:44Speaker 8: it's going to make him a better leader and a
- 1:01:46Speaker 8: better quarterback and to really have to like he's a
- 1:01:52Speaker 8: quieter guy by nature. He's a leader that has done
- 1:01:55Speaker 8: it more by actions than by words. But that's a
- 1:01:59Speaker 8: jump in hit game that will help the entire team
- 1:02:02Speaker 8: if he does take on that leadership role and really
- 1:02:04Speaker 8: grasp it and be comfortable doing it, which I think
- 1:02:05Speaker 8: he will be, and that will go a long way.
- 1:02:08Speaker 8: I love their offensive line. They got some youngsters, but
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: they're badasses. So I think from two years ago where
- 1:02:16Speaker 8: that was their real weakness and their offensive line just
- 1:02:20Speaker 8: was young and it was inexperienced, and they had to
- 1:02:22Speaker 8: scramble to even get enough healthy bodies. Now you come
- 1:02:26Speaker 8: into this year and on paper, they've got some dudes
- 1:02:30Speaker 8: and they've got depths.
- 1:02:32Speaker 7: So you know that's that combination.
- 1:02:34Speaker 8: Now they got to find a way to, you know,
- 1:02:37Speaker 8: have skill guys replaced Joanah Coleman.
- 1:02:39Speaker 7: And Denzel Boston.
- 1:02:40Speaker 8: And Denzel Boston's a tough one and he's having a
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: great camp already in the NFL. Everybody's singing his praise
- 1:02:45Speaker 8: is deservedly. So he's six' four and you go back
- 1:02:48Speaker 8: and watch them with the tape last year with the
- 1:02:49Speaker 8: fifty fifty, balls like he Was demand's security blanket and
- 1:02:53Speaker 8: when he needed a third down was third and, eleven he'd.
- 1:02:56Speaker 7: Throw it up and you Know boston would go get.
- 1:02:58Speaker 7: It he was.
- 1:02:58Speaker 8: Incredible so that on, offense you know where that's they
- 1:03:03Speaker 8: have to replace. Those that's what all eyes are gonna
- 1:03:05Speaker 8: be on at training. Camp who's gonna emerge as a
- 1:03:07Speaker 8: starting running, back who's gonna emerge as you know the
- 1:03:10Speaker 8: receiver out?
- 1:03:11Speaker 7: WIDE i Love Desmond. Roebuck they moved him in the.
- 1:03:13Speaker 8: Slot that guy is he's a, dude and he's he's a,
- 1:03:18Speaker 8: baller and so he should be really good on the.
- 1:03:20Speaker 8: Inside and then defensively their linebackers, there their linebackers are.
- 1:03:24Speaker 8: Phenomenal they've got they've got like a less era of,
- 1:03:28Speaker 8: linebackers LIKE i don't know. How And Ryan walters is
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: so smart as the. DECOORDINATOR i can't wait to see
- 1:03:34Speaker 8: how he gets creative to get all those guys.
- 1:03:36Speaker 7: The ability to get on the field as much as.
- 1:03:38Speaker 8: Possible so AND i think their defense With, walters they
- 1:03:41Speaker 8: said they're going to be more. Aggressive uh so it's
- 1:03:44Speaker 8: gonna be exciting to see how he tweaks. Things because
- 1:03:46Speaker 8: year two At, missouri year two At illinois when he
- 1:03:49Speaker 8: was a defensive, coordinator they made massive. Jumps so you,
- 1:03:52Speaker 8: Know Jets jet fish year, Three Ryan walters year, two
- 1:03:56Speaker 8: what a.
- 1:03:56Speaker 7: Combo let's. Go it's all like aligning for, you dub this.
- 1:04:00Speaker 7: Year that's that's the.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: Hope the, voice the voice of The Washington huskies at
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: Least woodward joining us here on the program with her
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: souped up purple hooptie that she now drives around town
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: to celebrate her. Promotion and she's wait to tell my.
- 1:04:15Speaker 7: Husband that's WHAT i got to get to, be, like oh, great.
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: You know we should get her in a truck like
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: Like Derek Halls, purple and he could build it for
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: and then it could go up and.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: Down he'll get A doug lower. It, yeah all you
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: got to do is. Ask at least now that you're
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: in this powerful position that you're, in all you got
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: to do is.
- 1:04:33Speaker 8: To, exactly there's a truck dealership somewhere that's, like, yes
- 1:04:37Speaker 8: we want to be the ones to.
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: Do you, know our our fathers would have told us
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: about a day where freshmen weren't even allowed to. Play
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: we grew up with in an era where freshmen had
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: to prove. Themselves but more, recently, man you got freshmen
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: that are dropping out halfway through there high school senior
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: year to get ready for their freshmen season and can
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: hit the ground. Running they also have the nutrition and
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: the weight room wisdom that maybe we didn't have a
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: generation and a half two generations. Ago whatever the case may,
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: be but it does feel to me long way of
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: asking at least Like jetfish is really counting on a
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: lot of. FRESHMEN i alway's got a good recruiting, Class,
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Betty he's kind of counting on a lot of, freshmen
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: a lot of unproven. Players to be the guy at
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: a certain position here and. There so how important is
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: it that these freshmen and these first time starters are
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: as real as what we're?
- 1:05:39Speaker 8: Hearing, JOY i think it's very. Important, certainly there's no,
- 1:05:44Speaker 8: question especially in, football that you become a man physically
- 1:05:50Speaker 8: during your.
- 1:05:51Speaker 7: Time AND i don't care you're just.
- 1:05:53Speaker 8: Going to get, bigger, stronger, faster because that's the point
- 1:05:57Speaker 8: you are in your life at eighteen to twenty, three
- 1:06:00Speaker 8: that's you, know your body is takes on man. Muscle
- 1:06:04Speaker 8: and SO i think that as they can be really really,
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: good and they can absolutely be good enough to perform
- 1:06:12Speaker 8: at the big ten. Level we've seen. It we Saw
- 1:06:13Speaker 8: John mills last year when he was. Healthy that guy
- 1:06:15Speaker 8: was a stud and he, again he just turned.
- 1:06:19Speaker 7: Eighteen it's. Crazy he's a left. Guard he weighs like
- 1:06:22Speaker 7: three thirty and he just turned.
- 1:06:25Speaker 8: Eighteen like they're growing him. Different it's funny you mentioned.
- 1:06:28Speaker 8: THAT i Don't i'm trying to remember what year he,
- 1:06:31Speaker 8: was But Cesar, rayford Longtime husky, fans remember this. Guy
- 1:06:34Speaker 8: he was six, seven he looked like a basketball. Player
- 1:06:36Speaker 8: is a defensive end for, you Dub AND i remember, Saying,
- 1:06:38Speaker 8: caesar how are you gonna put on?
- 1:06:39Speaker 7: Weight?
- 1:06:39Speaker 8: Man, like you got to put on some. Weight and
- 1:06:41Speaker 8: he was telling me the story that at that time
- 1:06:43Speaker 8: that he was told to carry around in his backpack
- 1:06:48Speaker 8: a loaf of bread with peanut.
- 1:06:51Speaker 7: Butter and, jelly and so he had that's what his
- 1:06:54Speaker 7: nutrition plan. Was And i'm, like, okay that's you, know
- 1:06:58Speaker 7: they might do things.
- 1:06:59Speaker 8: A bit differently back out to put on. Weight BUT
- 1:07:01Speaker 8: i was talking To John mills about it about his
- 1:07:03Speaker 8: weight and he's, like it's kind of like crustables and he,
- 1:07:05Speaker 8: GOES i can crush some, crustables and so Did Garon.
- 1:07:09Speaker 8: Hatchett And i'm, like, yeah those are going down way too,
- 1:07:11Speaker 8: easy don't. They BUT i, mean you, know they definitely
- 1:07:15Speaker 8: have proper training.
- 1:07:17Speaker 7: Regimens now they have different things that they.
- 1:07:19Speaker 8: Do but you, know you're going to get some freshmen
- 1:07:22Speaker 8: that hit and some that see the bright lights and
- 1:07:25Speaker 8: they're not ready and you don't know Until.
- 1:07:27Speaker 7: Saturday you, know It's Apple. Cup bring it. On there's
- 1:07:30Speaker 7: there's no eaven into the.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: Season, yeah a Little sunday action for The Apple.
- 1:07:33Speaker 7: Cup you, know.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: TRADITION i, know isn't that?
- 1:07:36Speaker 7: Crazy it's? WEIRD i mean.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: For you you, know.
- 1:07:41Speaker 7: It is.
- 1:07:43Speaker 8: It is, weird BUT i completely Understand they're going to
- 1:07:46Speaker 8: be the only.
- 1:07:46Speaker 7: Game ON tv that.
- 1:07:48Speaker 8: Day that's, Awesome what a great showcase for the state
- 1:07:50Speaker 8: Of washington and for The Apple. Cup AND i, mean like,
- 1:07:54Speaker 8: everything there's going to be some positives and some negatives
- 1:07:57Speaker 8: no matter.
- 1:07:58Speaker 7: What, right how.
- 1:07:59Speaker 8: Many times do we hear people will complain about night? Games,
- 1:08:01Speaker 8: okay what means you for those that have young, families guess,
- 1:08:04Speaker 8: what you could go watch your kids play sports all.
- 1:08:05Speaker 8: Day you get to, relax you know. Whatever there's positives
- 1:08:08Speaker 8: and negatives and early tip the people that really want
- 1:08:11Speaker 8: to go tailgate and tear it, up they got to
- 1:08:13Speaker 8: get up to.
- 1:08:13Speaker 7: Early they don't like. That they want in the afternoon
- 1:08:15Speaker 7: so they can have a good time in. Tailgate there's
- 1:08:17Speaker 7: always positive.
- 1:08:18Speaker 8: And negatives with, everything so you just got to lean into,
- 1:08:20Speaker 8: what you, know the fun part about.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: It, yeah AND i don't know if there's there's a
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: question THAT i could ask you that is more filled
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: with positive than negatives than this. One BUT i, mean
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: you're becoming the voice of The huskies at a time
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: where college football is probably at the zenith of its
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: most interesting state of affairs that it's ever been at
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: and there are a lot of fans out there that
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: think it's going to crash and burn and that college
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: sports is over as as we knew it and it's
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: gonna get ready to die a slow. Death and yet
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: on the other, side even though this conversation has been
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: going on for two or three, years the sport has
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: never been more, popular even with all that, Complaining AND
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: i don't think the quality of the product has ever
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: been better than what it's been the last couple of.
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: Years so as you are now entering this new phase
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: in your, career you're stepping into a college football. World
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: how that is certainly different than what we grew up.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: With so how do you feel about? It how do
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: you feel about the current state of the.
- 1:09:22Speaker 8: Game you, know it's crazy to check because with every
- 1:09:26Speaker 8: era things. Change we don't have leather helmets. Anymore guess
- 1:09:30Speaker 8: what we're playing on turf and. Grass we're not playing
- 1:09:34Speaker 8: on dirt like back in the. Day the First Apple
- 1:09:36Speaker 8: cup was in nineteen, HUNDRED.
- 1:09:37Speaker 7: I think was a mud.
- 1:09:38Speaker 8: BATH i, mean things change and, evolve and, yes there
- 1:09:42Speaker 8: are certain things in college sports right now that drive.
- 1:09:45Speaker 7: Me, crazy but it's where we're. At there's no looking.
- 1:09:50Speaker 8: Back guess, What i'd love to look back and go
- 1:09:53Speaker 8: back into my, thirties but they're.
- 1:09:54Speaker 7: Over you got to go move.
- 1:09:56Speaker 8: Forward Right so in college football right, now the good thing,
- 1:09:59Speaker 8: IS i, agree the level of. Play it's like you
- 1:10:04Speaker 8: have to give your head a, shake like the.
- 1:10:06Speaker 7: Depth the guys in the depth chart are better than
- 1:10:09Speaker 7: some guys from you, know thirty years ago that we're playing.
- 1:10:12Speaker 8: It it's incredible the amount of talent that is out there,
- 1:10:15Speaker 8: now AND i think that it is not as spread.
- 1:10:19Speaker 8: Out that is one of the things that The power
- 1:10:21Speaker 8: four conferences right now are gobbling up all the. Talent
- 1:10:25Speaker 8: and it's been. Interesting it's been good in terms of
- 1:10:28Speaker 8: the skill and the ability and the talent that you're.
- 1:10:31Speaker 8: Taking you, know the best player from you know One
- 1:10:34Speaker 8: DOUBLE a and they're transferring for their fifth or sixth
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: year at The power four. School it's great to. Watch
- 1:10:42Speaker 8: but you, know there is the loyalty thing like. That
- 1:10:44Speaker 8: i'm a very very loyal, person and so that part
- 1:10:47Speaker 8: is always, like oh, MAN i like it when guys
- 1:10:50Speaker 8: stay five years and it's just not the reality.
- 1:10:53Speaker 7: Anymore and you, know if.
- 1:10:55Speaker 8: You all of we all look through our own lens
- 1:10:59Speaker 8: of what we desire in our team that we root,
- 1:11:03Speaker 8: for and everybody that's a die Hard husky wants those
- 1:11:07Speaker 8: kids to stay for five, years to love it as
- 1:11:10Speaker 8: much as we, did and to be Loyal.
- 1:11:12Speaker 7: Huskies to the.
- 1:11:13Speaker 8: End that's what we all. Want that's what everybody. Wants
- 1:11:16Speaker 8: whether you're A, koog you want them to stay five.
- 1:11:18Speaker 8: Years you just want them to love it as much
- 1:11:20Speaker 8: as you did at your alma.
- 1:11:22Speaker 7: Mater but you have to.
- 1:11:24Speaker 8: Realize that this is a. Chance most of these kids
- 1:11:26Speaker 8: are not going to play in THE. Nfl they have
- 1:11:29Speaker 8: a chance to take care of their. Families they have
- 1:11:31Speaker 8: a chance to you, know put money in the bank
- 1:11:34Speaker 8: that they'll never be able to. Like it takes me
- 1:11:37Speaker 8: a lot of years and takes years upon years to
- 1:11:40Speaker 8: make the kind of money that they can make as
- 1:11:42Speaker 8: A d, one.
- 1:11:43Speaker 7: Top notch football.
- 1:11:44Speaker 8: Player so you can't begrudge them of that. Opportunity that's
- 1:11:47Speaker 8: what we all, wanted for these kids to be paid.
- 1:11:49Speaker 8: Fairly it just comes with some negative consequences where loyalty.
- 1:11:55Speaker 7: Is not as strong as it used to.
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: Be that's.
- 1:11:57Speaker 8: Facts But i'm you, KNOW i think with college, football
- 1:12:01Speaker 8: there have been some good things that have come out
- 1:12:03Speaker 8: with This there's been some bad, things but the bottom
- 1:12:06Speaker 8: line is is that we love college. Football we love
- 1:12:09Speaker 8: our alma. Maters it is the one, chance you, know
- 1:12:12Speaker 8: the six saturdays in the, fall that you get to
- 1:12:15Speaker 8: reconnect with your old you, know, classmates frat, buddies sorority,
- 1:12:21Speaker 8: sisters you know, others athletic, department that the new people
- 1:12:25Speaker 8: that you, meet business, connections all the things that you
- 1:12:27Speaker 8: do to go in there and share YOU, dub that's
- 1:12:29Speaker 8: still all there and that will always be. There and
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: that's why we love college football is because it's there's
- 1:12:36Speaker 8: no better connector in all of.
- 1:12:39Speaker 7: Sport the tailgates at a college football.
- 1:12:42Speaker 8: Game are different than anything else they're going to, see
- 1:12:46Speaker 8: and you, know so.
- 1:12:49Speaker 7: That's not going. Away that certainly is what brings people.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: Back are you ready to Keep Cam cleveland in? LINE
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: i know how difficult he can.
- 1:12:55Speaker 8: Be oh my, god, YEAH i already had to talk
- 1:12:58Speaker 8: well On Big.
- 1:12:59Speaker 7: REDHEAD i Love.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: CAM i don't know if you're just show up a
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: sandwich and some sunscreen and he'll make a friend real.
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: Fast.
- 1:13:06Speaker 8: Yeah, no He's cam AND i were the same year
- 1:13:10Speaker 8: AT dub And CAM i lived with four softball players
- 1:13:14Speaker 8: WHEN i was was the only basketball player in the,
- 1:13:16Speaker 8: house And cam was over at my house all the
- 1:13:18Speaker 8: time because he was stating my.
- 1:13:20Speaker 7: Roommate and now they've been married for many years AND
- 1:13:25Speaker 7: i was in their, Wedding so, Wow, CAM i go way.
- 1:13:28Speaker 8: Back so you've you, know we're already talking about how
- 1:13:31Speaker 8: much fun this is going to.
- 1:13:32Speaker 7: Be And, CAM i, Mean.
- 1:13:36Speaker 8: Cam's one of the best athletes that ever played AT
- 1:13:38Speaker 8: u Dub, athletically that guy is the biggest freak show
- 1:13:41Speaker 8: at six four and like two seventy five and hitting
- 1:13:44Speaker 8: home runs for baseball and, yeah like you know what
- 1:13:48Speaker 8: he did on the football, field that, GUY i, mean he.
- 1:13:51Speaker 7: Was a freak show. Athlete so we're gonna have.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: Fun you're gonna have. Fun that's going to be a,
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: blast and we look forward to. It and so thank
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: you very much for joining. Us congratulations again and have
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: a great first.
- 1:14:04Speaker 7: Year let's go, dogs can't. Wait let's get it.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: Rolling at least what we're joining us right here On
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: chuck in The morning, says we continue here on This.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: Thursday coming up, next we'll get back to that baseball
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: game last night that has a lot Of mariner fans
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: feeling like the page has been turned toward. Success it's
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: the Baseball brunch coming your way On Sports radio ninety
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: three point THREE, kjrfm and.
- 1:14:31Speaker 6: It hits them to shore And Leva torre is talking
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- 1:14:45Speaker 1: And everybody coming out now and they have thrown Game
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: spire out of the.
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: GAME i Mean danny's going.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: Aboard hey, Wow danny will not be in this.
- 1:14:56Speaker 6: Ball, well the.
- 1:14:59Speaker 9: Umpire have deemed that it was intentional of the part
- 1:15:02Speaker 9: Of Gabe. Spire they have thrown gave out of the,
- 1:15:04Speaker 9: game no warning, given and Now dan gets the heat.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: Home oh, my can you feel?
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: IT a.
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: Lot of people are giving that moment to a lot of,
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: credit not just for winning the game last, night but
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: obviously for starting some giant windstreak going for they already.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: Count it's turned the season. Around the decision By Gabe
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: spire to counter Cal raley having been hit by a
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: pitch by Plunking Labor torres after missing him. ONCE i
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: did not have the same reaction last. NIGHT i Thought
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: spier's reaction was actually. Ridiculous we needed a win in that.
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Moment why would you want to start a rally with
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: two outs against a team that has no life right.
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: Now now you're up three to. Oho we need a.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: Win we don't need to settle some silly personal. SCORE i,
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: mean baseball's got a long. Memory baseball players have a long.
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: Memory there are scores that are settled years after the.
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: Fact you could have done this at another time if
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: you didn't like col getting hit by a, pitch, which
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: by the, way was not. Intentional it's a one to two.
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: Pitch there was nothing intentional about. That But Gabe spier's
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: decisions were. Intentional and when he missed the first, time
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: which the umpires let go because they didn't try to
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: let the game police, itself he, Decided, HEY i didn't get,
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: Him i'm gonna try, again and he got thrown out
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: of the. Game, PERSONALLY i thought it was the right
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: decision by the. Umpires and, No, ryan you don't have
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: to give a warning in today's game. Anymore this isn't
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: two thousand and. Six if you believe that somebody has
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: been thrown out, intentionally you've can throw them out without any.
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: Warning and that's what happened last. Night, well bizarre to
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: comes in gives up the two run, homer and Now i'm.
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: Fuming Now i'm, like why on earth are we letting
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: this get in the way of a really important? Victory my,
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: Goodness Cold, emerson it's a home run the very next
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: stending four to, two and now we got a lot more.
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: Believers oh my, gosh, man that was the message that we.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: Needed we Needed gabe to Support cal and Then cold
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: Supported gabe And dan by hitting the home run four to.
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: Two we won the. Game we're gonna tear it up.
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: Now that seemed to be the, reaction and it flew
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: in the face of my. Theory not everybody disagreed with,
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: me by the way on social, media but everybody, was
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: for the most, part very respectful about disagreeing with me last,
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: night AND i do appreciate That ashley opened my eyes
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: a little bit here this. Morning her suggestion was that
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: it was a, symbol And i'll let you take it from,
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: here but a symbol of a night in which everybody
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: seemed to have everybody's. Back now THAT i might buy,
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: into because that speaks to the defense that picked Up wu,
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: earlier and Then wu who picked the team, up and
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: Then julio who picked Up dom who got walked in that,
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: situation And colt then picked Up dan THAT i might
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: buy if and, So, ashley maybe you're right about. This
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: maybe that is the galvanizing, moment the fact that the
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: team acted galvanized last.
- 1:18:27Speaker 4: Night, yeah AND i would say yeah for the whole,
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: game because you even look at the first, inning that
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: catch That, randy the foul ball That RANDY ctt kind
- 1:18:33Speaker 4: of laying, backwards you, know and he the way he
- 1:18:38Speaker 4: caught it into the stands and the smile on his,
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: face and you could kind of just seemed like a
- 1:18:41Speaker 4: Different randy there all of a, sudden like he was
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: like he got to, showboat which he loves to, do
- 1:18:46Speaker 4: but he also hustled and made the, catch and you were,
- 1:18:48Speaker 4: like all, right, Okay, RANDY i see. You that was
- 1:18:50Speaker 4: a great defensive. Play then you fast forward to that
- 1:18:52Speaker 4: fourth inning and you've Got randy with the great, play
- 1:18:56Speaker 4: And dom with the great, play And randy with the great,
- 1:18:58Speaker 4: play And wu tipp in his half from the, mound
- 1:19:00Speaker 4: and you, Know wu's delivering just a gem of a
- 1:19:04Speaker 4: game again at. Home and Then julio's, like all, RIGHT
- 1:19:07Speaker 4: i got, this, guys thank You wu for all your.
- 1:19:09Speaker 4: Effort let's go. Defense this has been. Great we need some.
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: Runs AND i and you, know they dom they think
- 1:19:15Speaker 4: you're going to hit, it don't, Worry i'll hit it for.
- 1:19:17Speaker 4: You and then and then from there it was wu
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: finishing off and then the you Know spire even Coming
- 1:19:23Speaker 4: and DID i love?
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: It?
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: No DID i think at first that he did it?
- 1:19:26Speaker 4: Intentionally at first thought, no because it as Five iron
- 1:19:29Speaker 4: AND i were talking about it didn't make. Sense why
- 1:19:32Speaker 4: you don't have a big. Lead why would you do
- 1:19:34Speaker 4: it in that, moment, right you don't have a big.
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: Lead and then when they showed it, again it's, like,
- 1:19:38Speaker 4: okay well he missed the first time through the exact same,
- 1:19:40Speaker 4: pitch tried to hit him in the exact same. Place
- 1:19:43Speaker 4: clearly he meant to do. It inspire didn't fight it
- 1:19:45Speaker 4: when they ejected him.
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: Either he was, like, Yep i'm, Out, Yeah.
- 1:19:48Speaker 4: I'll, go AND i just you, know THEN i got
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: a little then obviously nervous When bizardo comes in and
- 1:19:55Speaker 4: he's trying to take over and clearly can't get that
- 1:19:58Speaker 4: third out on the first. Tribe then he comes through
- 1:20:00Speaker 4: and he gets the third out and even he's more
- 1:20:02Speaker 4: fired up. There it was fired, up WHICH i was,
- 1:20:04Speaker 4: like you just gave up two. Runs but at least
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: you got out of, it So i'll give you. That
- 1:20:07Speaker 4: and then For colt to just come in and immediately
- 1:20:09Speaker 4: step up and do, THAT i was, like this team's
- 1:20:12Speaker 4: feeling something right. Now they absolutely all have each other's backs.
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: Tonight, Well i'll meet you halfway then on, that BECAUSE
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: i thought there were bigger moments other Than gabe had cows. Back,
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: Absolutely but if you want to describe to me as
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: such a game, THAT i don't know if we've watched
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: them play a game like this all season. Long we've
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: waited four months for this where it did feel, like,
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: hey if you didn't make the, Pitch i'm going to
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: make the defensive. Play. Yep if you're not going to
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: get the, HIT i got, you you, Know. Okay if
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: that's the symbol of we've got each other's, back all.
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: Right i'm.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: Game let's see what we can. Do AS i also
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: mentioned On twitter last, NIGHT i do hope that this is.
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: It i'll take anything it. Gets this thing sparked seems
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: like a strange method for inspiration to, me but, yeah
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: let's have it lead to a forty game winning. Streak
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: i'm all about, it And i'm happy to say that
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: moment Where Gabe spire did something dumb but it inspired
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: the troops that you can't spell inspire without spire.
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: True just a little different. Order.
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah so if that's the, case then so be.
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: It i'll let that. Stand last night was a galvanizing,
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: game the theme Being i've got your pack and if
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: it leads to something, special. GREAT i, Mean i'll believe
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: in anything right. Now, HELL i watched a deformed raccoon
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: sell out a stadium last night on A wednesday night
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: for a team four games under five. Hundred so if
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: that can, happen anything can happen in the baseball. World so,
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: yeah let's let that be the symbol going. FORWARD i
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: might argue years from now when we look back at
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: forty game winning streak at the end of twenty twenty,
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: SIX i might argue in a bar somewhere that there
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: was something else magical about that. Night but if we
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: want to make that the, symbol, fine do it For.
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: Jimmify let's do it all. Right coming up, Next Hugh
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: millan is going to join, us and not in the typical.
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: Capacity i've been bringing up this topic a lot this.
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: WEEK a lot of people have been discussing it throughout the,
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: country AND i know we got a lot of things to.
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: Discuss but when you AND i did shows together last,
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: week we had a few conversations off the, air AND
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: i realized something about you THAT i think is, fascinating
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: AND i think that it totally ties in to the
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: topic That i've been discussing with you a lot during
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: the course of the. Week So Hu millan coming through once.
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: AGAIN qb, one you, know gives us all that great
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: football insight right on a daily basis practically here AT.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: Kjar but he's got a little trick up his sleeve
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: THAT i want to tap. Into Next Sports radio ninety
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: three point THREE, kjrfm all, right nine o'clock hour here
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: on This, Thursday Chuck, Pyle Ashley ryan with. You good
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: to be here in, studio but we'll be back out
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: at training camp tomorrow and at various dates going. Forward of,
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: COURSE i got to spend training camp mornings With hugh
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: millon last. Week great to see, him and we had
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: a couple of conversations off the air about things beyond
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: Just seahawks' training. Camp and so just a quick little
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: story THAT i want to tell you, about because this
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: week we've had a lot of conversations About Trek, scooble The,
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: dodgers whether or not they're ruining, Baseball is it going
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: to lead to a? Lockout will the Players Association Players
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: association ever cave on a salary, cap which they claim
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: they never. Will, well once upon a time The National
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: Football league had to go through the same sort of,
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: conversation And i'm sure that the players thought that they
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: weren't going to agree to, it but obviously they eventually.
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: Did and, SO i, Mean Hugh millen provides you the
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: best insights anywhere you're going to find into The, seahawks
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: into football in. General BUT i realized in talking To
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: hugh off the, air he was. There he was a
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: player rep and his second year in The National Football
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: league and was then a player rep every year after
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: for the rest of his. Career into the bargaining that took,
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: place the negotiation that took place between THE nfl and
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: THE nflpa to come up with the collective bargaining agreement
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: that put the salary cap in. Place so he was,
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: there part of the conversation in the. Room AND i,
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: thought with all of the conversations being taking place with
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: baseball and School ball and The dodgers and everything. Else
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: what a perfect time to bring him on and kind
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: of walk us through. History so joining us now is
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: YOUR qb. One he's A there are a lot of
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: layers to this. Guy, people It'sh millon joining us here
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: on the radio. Program DID i represent that the right? Way,
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: well that's very. FLATTERING i certainly didn't deserve all of,
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: that BUT i appreciate the kind, words and, YEAH i
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: represented The rams in nineteen eighty, seven during the strike,
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: YEAR i was asked to testify In, washington D. C
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: about the state of readiness of the team coming out
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: of the the. Strike and then from there, On, yeah
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: there's you, know a player rep per, team and you're
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: in those meetings and and you, know we're hearing all
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: the rhetoric from the owners and and then of, course you,
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: know as you should, do you listen to their concerns
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: and you try and come to a. Agreement there was
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: a nineteen eighty seven. Strike players missed three, games and
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: there were. Scabs it was kind of an ugly. Situation
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: but in the, room the players always knew my, sense
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: we knew that we had the anti trust laws on our,
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: hands and you, know the draft is patently in violation
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: of anti. Trust and when you hear anti, trust it's
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: a confusing. Term it just means anti. Competition so the
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: Sermon Anti Trust, act the federal statutes that govern all,
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: businesses we all benefit from them as consumers and in
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: the workplace and what have, you and so you know
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: things like. That at the, time there was the reserve
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: clause for THE nfl. Players the baseball players that achieved
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: free agency in nineteen seventy six was the first year
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: football players did not have. That Joe montana was probably
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: the best player in the league when his contract expired
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: with the forty nine, ers regardless of how many years he,
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: had he was still the property of the forty nine,
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: ers and and so we knew that that was against
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: the the the anti trust. Laws so so ultimately we
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: had to have a. Strike what's created an Impass and
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: and you, say, well how do you supersede the ani trust? Laws,
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: well the labor, laws specifically The Wagner Labor act essentially says, This,
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: uh the courts will look back and, say, hey you,
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: guys you guys have a system that violates the anti trust.
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: Laws but if the collective bargaining agreement if you guys
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: agree to and what's what's subject to collective bargaining? Wages,
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: hours in terms of. Employment, well that covers just about, Everything,
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: chuck that that. Covers is there going to be grass
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: field or or you, know turf field is you, know
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: are we gonna get are we gonna limit two a
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: day's because we don't want to have two a day.
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: Practice that's you, know there are terms of conditions and
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: hours and of course wages and. Compensations, so, uh the
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: courts will look and, say if you guys collectively bargain,
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: players you can you can bargain away your rights under
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: anti trust. Laws and so then the players look and, say,
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: well we want these certain benefits and and then we
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: will agree to a system that violates the anti trust.
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: Laws so there's some other details that THE Nfl Players
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: Associates association had to, decertify which so the courts would
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: stop looking at the labor laws superseding the anti trust,
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: laws and then they would they would, say, hey, hey
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: now we're just going to look at the the system
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: and under anti trust, laws, guys you guys can't have
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: a draft right BECAUSE i mean imagine in an other.
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: Industry oh you just, like stop my heart right. There,
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: yeah atract the greatest holiday In.
- 1:28:52Speaker 10: America you know What Jeffrey Tessler advising, Says you know,
- 1:28:56Speaker 10: what we just. Can't we can't Break chuck's. Heart you,
- 1:28:59Speaker 10: know we have to we have to keep acceeding to.
- 1:29:02Speaker 10: This this draft. Nonsense but, NO i don't think it's
- 1:29:05Speaker 10: nonsense at. ALL i think it's a fair way to.
- 1:29:07Speaker 10: Distribute and you know the play the owners that they
- 1:29:10Speaker 10: their concern, was, look the value of the product is
- 1:29:15Speaker 10: the entertainment value of two competitively matched. Teams IF i
- 1:29:19Speaker 10: heard that, ONCE i heard it a thousand, times and
- 1:29:21Speaker 10: it bears relevance to to what we're about to discuss with.
- 1:29:24Speaker 10: Baseball and and you know their cry was that all
- 1:29:30Speaker 10: the players want to Be raiders or, cowboys and The
- 1:29:34Speaker 10: packers will never sign. ANYBODY i remember that one usually
- 1:29:37Speaker 10: particularly being. Used, well, actually after we grounded, it grinded
- 1:29:42Speaker 10: it out and we had a free agency in ninety
- 1:29:45Speaker 10: three and then the salary cap in ninety. Four the
- 1:29:49Speaker 10: irony was that the very first marquee signing was to
- 1:29:54Speaker 10: The Green Bay packers in the person Of Reggie. White
- 1:29:56Speaker 10: so we all kind of got a chuckle about all
- 1:29:59Speaker 10: the hand ringing that had been you, know advanced by
- 1:30:04Speaker 10: the owners into which the the. Players we were, saying,
- 1:30:07Speaker 10: look there's still gonna be other, forces like money that's
- 1:30:11Speaker 10: going to distribute the, talent and so at an, event
- 1:30:14Speaker 10: we can look in hindsight now at a lot of
- 1:30:16Speaker 10: the of the hand ringing and kind of a chuckle on,
- 1:30:21Speaker 10: it you. Know and but as an, enterprise you, know
- 1:30:25Speaker 10: at that time ninety, three THE nfl had one point
- 1:30:28Speaker 10: eight seven billion dollars in. Revenue that's only ten million
- 1:30:32Speaker 10: more Than Major League, baseball who had one point eight.
- 1:30:35Speaker 10: Six now fast, forward under the structure that we've had
- 1:30:40Speaker 10: with a salary, cap with a minimum salary that now
- 1:30:46Speaker 10: you've GOT nfl at twenty four point one, Billion baseball
- 1:30:50Speaker 10: at twelve point four. Billion football has literally Lapped baseball,
- 1:30:56Speaker 10: doubled and you, know and and then the pop, popularity and,
- 1:31:00Speaker 10: Look i'm not gonna commit the fallacy of just, saying,
- 1:31:04Speaker 10: well you, Know i'm going to observe a phenomenon and
- 1:31:08Speaker 10: Then i'm going to establish a. Cause there's multiple. Causes
- 1:31:10Speaker 10: we can't isolate the, variables but we can make. Inferences,
- 1:31:13Speaker 10: Right i'm aware obviously gambling and fantasy, football and there's other,
- 1:31:18Speaker 10: factors but the facts. Are we, here we, sit and
- 1:31:22Speaker 10: we see the degree to which baseball their. Interest you,
- 1:31:27Speaker 10: know in nineteen the early nineteen, nineties the share of
- 1:31:33Speaker 10: All americans who watched The World series was twelve. Percent
- 1:31:40Speaker 10: now it's three point eight percent in this, decade whereas
- 1:31:43Speaker 10: football has been over thirty three percent back then in
- 1:31:48Speaker 10: thirty five percent, Now so you're, talking you, know.
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: Like nine times as.
- 1:31:53Speaker 10: Many and there's some weird series years where they're under ten.
- 1:31:57Speaker 10: Million SO i think that all of the. Mistakes by the,
- 1:32:02Speaker 10: way The Blue Ribbon panel in the late nineteen nineties
- 1:32:04Speaker 10: for baseball suggested that baseball go to the model of
- 1:32:10Speaker 10: football and have a salary cap and have a. Floor
- 1:32:14Speaker 10: but you, know right, now they're resistant for REASONS i,
- 1:32:20Speaker 10: understand BUT i think are.
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: Foolish, yeah AND i love. IT i love this. STUFF
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: i find this. Fascinating i'm trusting that our audience does as,
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: well BECAUSE i, mean this is how sports history has,
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: made for goodness. Sake and we've Got Hugh millan who
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: was right there basically signing The declaration Of. Independence he's
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: like a forefather of the salary cap and we've got
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: him right, here we got Like John hancock with us
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: right now here on the radio program explaining all of
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: this all. Right So i'm sure there was hand ringing and,
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: nervousness and there might have even been an element with
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: Young Hugh, millan you, know and other young. Players we
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: forget how young you guys, were and you were making
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: these decisions on behalf of future football. Players i'm sure
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: there was a nervousness like are we selling our? Soul
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: are we giving up too? Much is this the right
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: move to? Make but now that we have, hindsight now
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: that we have all that success in history that has
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: stemmed from that. Decision if you were in a room
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: With Bryce, harper who might be the most outspoken baseball
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: player against a salary, cap AND i think he wears
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: that like a badge of, honor like he's supposed. To
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: he's got to stick up for all those that came before.
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: Him they never cave to. This he's never gonna as
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: long as he's alive and can draw a, breath he's
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: never gonna cave to this. Himself what would you say to?
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: Him what would you Advise Bryce harper to maybe talk
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: sense into? Him into why a salary cap might actually
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: make sense even though it goes against. Logic we're gonna
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: we're gonna cap the money, spent and yet it's going
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: to make sense.
- 1:33:57Speaker 10: For your league because you're going to have a floor
- 1:34:01Speaker 10: if they follow THE nfl mod THE nfl right, now
- 1:34:05Speaker 10: they have a. Rule now there's a formula over a
- 1:34:09Speaker 10: three or four year, period generally a three year period
- 1:34:11Speaker 10: that every team has to spend ninety percent of the,
- 1:34:16Speaker 10: cap and THE nfl as an entire, entity has to
- 1:34:20Speaker 10: spend ninety five. Percent, again over a. Period it's not
- 1:34:23Speaker 10: year to, year and there has never been a team
- 1:34:27Speaker 10: that has had to. Pay and this collective bargaining agreement
- 1:34:31Speaker 10: says if you fall below, that you have to write
- 1:34:34Speaker 10: a check in the off season to all the players
- 1:34:38Speaker 10: who are on the. Team, now The raiders and The
- 1:34:41Speaker 10: jaguars have been close in recent years and they spent
- 1:34:48Speaker 10: at a level to avoid that. Penalty so WHAT i
- 1:34:53Speaker 10: would be talking to baseball players is just focus on
- 1:34:56Speaker 10: this before we talk about how it's. Distributed AND i
- 1:34:59Speaker 10: got plenty of comment it's About Bryce. Harp let's just
- 1:35:02Speaker 10: talk about the. Pie so there's two things we focus,
- 1:35:05Speaker 10: on how how big is the pie and revenue? Pie
- 1:35:09Speaker 10: and what what percent share do the players? Get and
- 1:35:15Speaker 10: And i'm going to talk in some ways that's gonna sound.
- 1:35:18Speaker 10: Socialist i'm a, capitalist LIKE i think any sensible person would.
- 1:35:23Speaker 10: Be but think, about just pause for a, second the
- 1:35:26Speaker 10: paradox of professional. Sports nordstrom uh is as a department.
- 1:35:32Speaker 10: Store there used to be a department, Store, Chuck we
- 1:35:35Speaker 10: may have heard of. It, certainly longtime satellites Of frederick And,
- 1:35:39Speaker 10: nelson similar store To northstroam was better at. Business they
- 1:35:42Speaker 10: Knocked frederick And nelson out of, business and so, hey
- 1:35:45Speaker 10: good For.
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: Nordstrom if The.
- 1:35:47Speaker 10: Dodgers knocked The rockies, out who are The dodgers going to?
- 1:35:50Speaker 10: Play and, moreover if The dodgers play The rockies and
- 1:35:55Speaker 10: all the fans believe the score is going to be
- 1:35:57Speaker 10: eight to one every time they, play what's gonna be
- 1:36:00Speaker 10: the interest. LEVEL i just have outlined some of the
- 1:36:04Speaker 10: declining interest in baseball and how football has. Surpressed so
- 1:36:08Speaker 10: what did we? Say THE nfl owner, said our products
- 1:36:11Speaker 10: of the entertainment value to competitively matched. Teams so professional
- 1:36:15Speaker 10: sports are in a competition with movie theaters and rock
- 1:36:19Speaker 10: concerts And netflix as a service technically worth, service providing,
- 1:36:24Speaker 10: entertainment and we're. Competing and so when you look at
- 1:36:27Speaker 10: a sports, league they are capitalists as they compete against
- 1:36:33Speaker 10: other forms of, entertainment but they have to be. Socialists
- 1:36:37Speaker 10: and nobody did it better than the giants the mayors
- 1:36:41Speaker 10: throughout the, decades going back to nineteen twenty, five they always, said,
- 1:36:44Speaker 10: no we need to share the. Revenue so the way
- 1:36:47Speaker 10: that these owners can be savage capitalists is externally is
- 1:36:54Speaker 10: to internally behave like.
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: Socialists so get back to go back to.
- 1:37:00Speaker 10: Before right around the time when we were doing, this
- 1:37:03Speaker 10: THE nfl had about forty percent of the revenue is
- 1:37:05Speaker 10: going to the. Players baseball was up at fifty seven.
- 1:37:08Speaker 10: Percent baseball is just at the. Whim in twenty, fifteen
- 1:37:13Speaker 10: at the baseball fell to thirty eight point six percent
- 1:37:18Speaker 10: of the. Revenue meanwhile football is locked at forty eight
- 1:37:24Speaker 10: point eight. Percent so as AN nfl player is, saying,
- 1:37:27Speaker 10: hey we're at forty eight point eight, Percent, now how
- 1:37:30Speaker 10: who gets the? Money how Much mahomes gets that's we'll
- 1:37:33Speaker 10: set that. Aside we are going to get forty eight
- 1:37:36Speaker 10: point eight. Percent so what do we want to? Do
- 1:37:39Speaker 10: we want to grow that damn, pie because the more
- 1:37:41Speaker 10: the pie, grows the more our forty eight point eight percent.
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: Grows so so.
- 1:37:48Speaker 10: AND i just outlined that twenty four billion in, revenue
- 1:37:53Speaker 10: which which doubles baseball in the most recent. Years SO
- 1:37:56Speaker 10: i would say to the To Bryce, harper you are
- 1:38:01Speaker 10: advocating for a system that everybody knows from a correlation
- 1:38:08Speaker 10: standpoint in this, decade the.
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: Champion the.
- 1:38:15Speaker 10: Champion Actually i'll get to that in a. Second that
- 1:38:20Speaker 10: if you run a correlation to money and winning football
- 1:38:26Speaker 10: has a fifty. Correlation think of a baseball player who
- 1:38:29Speaker 10: hits fifty five to, Zero baseball has a five to fifty.
- 1:38:34Speaker 10: Correlation the number of franchises who were if you go
- 1:38:40Speaker 10: back to two thousand and excuse, me nineteen ninety, eight
- 1:38:44Speaker 10: that was the first year of thirty teams in each
- 1:38:48Speaker 10: twenty of twenty Eight World series champions are in the
- 1:38:54Speaker 10: top ten in. Baseball only ten out of twenty eight
- 1:38:57Speaker 10: are in. Football you would expect if it was just
- 1:39:00Speaker 10: and you would expect one. Third so you're getting more
- 1:39:02Speaker 10: than double the rate where correlation to money is a.
- 1:39:07Speaker 10: Factor and The, dodgers in their luxury tax pay one
- 1:39:11Speaker 10: hundred and sixty nine. Million The dodgers pay more in
- 1:39:14Speaker 10: luxury tax than half the owners are are are paying
- 1:39:20Speaker 10: in their entire, payroll including The Seattle. Mariners so you
- 1:39:26Speaker 10: have this incredible discrepancy that they the difference between The
- 1:39:30Speaker 10: dodgers at the top three hundred and fifty million twenty
- 1:39:34Speaker 10: four versus The marlins sixty seven. Eight this this is
- 1:39:40Speaker 10: for twenty twenty. Five it's the last year we can
- 1:39:42Speaker 10: compare football to. Baseball so that, gap that's a four
- 1:39:47Speaker 10: hundred and sixteen percent gap between the highest and the
- 1:39:51Speaker 10: lowest in, football it's only a twelve percent gap so.
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: In real.
- 1:39:58Speaker 10: Dollars so now what you have is a system where
- 1:40:02Speaker 10: there are the fan bases that just feel, Helpless, yeah
- 1:40:06Speaker 10: because of the of the the fact that they have.
- 1:40:10Speaker 10: Owners now there's a couple of ISOLATED, uh small market
- 1:40:16Speaker 10: teams that are managing their team. Well but the correlation
- 1:40:19Speaker 10: again to THE, uh the the top ten spenders and
- 1:40:26Speaker 10: playoff teams and Winning World series what have you is
- 1:40:30Speaker 10: is more than. Double SO i would, LOOK i would
- 1:40:33Speaker 10: Challenge Bryce. HARPER i would, say hang, on you were
- 1:40:39Speaker 10: the revenue has gone up two hundred and forty seven
- 1:40:43Speaker 10: percent and the salaries have only gone up one hundred
- 1:40:47Speaker 10: forty nine.
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: Percent.
- 1:40:49Speaker 10: Uh in that rate your, declinent you are the the.
- 1:40:52Speaker 10: Player the baseball players are at forty six percent of
- 1:40:55Speaker 10: a pie that is not. Growing the football players are
- 1:40:59Speaker 10: at forty eight point eight percent of a pie that
- 1:41:02Speaker 10: is doubling. Them whereas right before free AGENCY i told
- 1:41:06Speaker 10: you there's only ten one point eight seven to one
- 1:41:08Speaker 10: point eighty. Six there's only ten million dollars separating the
- 1:41:11Speaker 10: revenue of the. Two they were they were neck and.
- 1:41:12Speaker 10: Neck and look at the degree to which football has.
- 1:41:16Speaker 10: Stretched it's its, popularity its revenue in every. Way and
- 1:41:21Speaker 10: WHEN i say, double that's that's being conservative because there's
- 1:41:23Speaker 10: many of these metrics where where it's it's it's many times.
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: That, Right Hugh mellan is with us OUR qb One,
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: Yes i've been fascinated by this topic here as of.
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: Late you, know the future of baseball seems to be
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: a bit murky with the Collective Bargaining agreement coming. Up
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: for a long TIME i was Against Major League baseball
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: adopting a salary, cap and in the last few Years
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: i've done a bit of a one eighty on, it
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: and NOW i think it absolutely has to. Happen and
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: So hugh is with us, Now i'm do you mind
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: sticking around for another? Segment, yeah not at. All, Okay
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: so we'll cover anything else on this front that we
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: need to With hugh, millon Because i'm sure there is
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: more GROUND i gotta. ANSWER i gotta answer Your harper question,
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: Too so we'll get to that in. Others all, right
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: we'll get into that Next Sports radio ninety three point
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