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Football at Four: Explaining Differences with Eagles Schemes In Training Camp · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I am slated to go to the concert, but if
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  Speaker 2: Night, good pass in the half. Yeah, it is interesting
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  Speaker 2: the way things work out. I remember student interview soon
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  Speaker 2: recently who asked me about my Sixers phantom, and I said,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you how crazy of a six Er
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  Speaker 2: fan I am. In two thousand and one, traveled to
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  Speaker 2: the finals of my own dime, got a single seat,
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  Speaker 2: actually got great seats in what was what was called
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  Speaker 2: the Staples Center then. And then when I was in
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  Speaker 2: high school when they were in eighty two eighty three,
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  Speaker 2: I had the next game. He had tickets for the
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  Speaker 2: next game, but the six Er swept, so I never
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  Speaker 2: went to never got to go. So, yeah, Mike, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's sometimes there are good problems to have and getting
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  Speaker 2: back to you, your team winning is obviously a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more important to going a good concert though.
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  Speaker 1: Now I was supposed to go see Towd the Wetsprocket tonight.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing tonight. Who told the wets Rocket is playing
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  Speaker 1: with men at work?
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  Speaker 2: I met in a met at work. I know they're
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  Speaker 2: from Australia, but the first band is are they from
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  Speaker 2: the Jetsons?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know them, No, I mean they're pretty They
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  Speaker 1: had their little cult following there. All, right, ed, and
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  Speaker 1: let's get into something I know, you know, really well,
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  Speaker 1: the first couple of days of Eagles training camp. Let's
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  Speaker 1: take a look at what stood out and look different
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  Speaker 1: during the first two practice Everybody wants to know what
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  Speaker 1: this offense is going to look like. So let's start
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  Speaker 1: with the offensive side of the ball. What are we
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  Speaker 1: observing that stood out and looked different during these first
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  Speaker 1: two camp practices.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's really the way I wanted to set
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  Speaker 2: this up, because this is a brand new offense. Mike.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles, we already know they had the biggest offensive
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  Speaker 2: line in weight in the National Football League, and they
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  Speaker 2: might have the tall offensive line Mike, fred Johnson. It
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  Speaker 2: was funny I was asking Andrew to check o on
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  Speaker 2: Thursday because we're right in back of the lineman. Who's taller,
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  Speaker 2: Fred Johnson or doing my lot and during my lot
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  Speaker 2: of technically it's taller at six foot eight, but they've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of length. They added down Tavian Wicks
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  Speaker 2: as a big bodied receiver. You really like that. The
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  Speaker 2: other thing, Mike that is interesting is that they are
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  Speaker 2: really athletic and they're really fast, like you couldn't really
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  Speaker 2: tell no Tis because those are we call passing camps,
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  Speaker 2: are more like flag football, and yes Thursday until early
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  Speaker 2: next week. They have to have reduced practices. You can't hit.
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  Speaker 2: We're in the five day acclamation period. But the tempo's better.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles mic despite the trade of a J. Brown,
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  Speaker 2: there's still very very there's still any very very athletic offense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, one thing everybody's wondering about is Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts and is it going to be under center? And
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  Speaker 1: the timing throws? Is he kind? Are we seeing that
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  Speaker 1: early on here?
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  Speaker 2: So, Mike, you asked me that back in Foreby. What's
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  Speaker 2: this going to look like? I said, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: go pure West Coast terminology is going to change. Hurts
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  Speaker 2: will be on under center way more over the past
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  Speaker 2: five seasons under center less than twenty percent of the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to change. You're going to see pre stat motion.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it under center. We saw it almost the
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  Speaker 2: entire practice. That's It's just one of these things. I
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  Speaker 2: just I was marveling at him, like this is so different, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: As I watched Thursday's practice, which is longer than Wednesdays,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, this is just not what I've seen
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  Speaker 2: with Jalen Hurts. It's said a lot of people critical,
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  Speaker 2: why are you doing this to him? Look, you got
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  Speaker 2: to advance the guy. He's a super Bowl winner. He
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  Speaker 2: can handle this. He's just it's not what he's used to.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay, you know. By the way, I remember Philip Rivers,
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  Speaker 2: he was exclusively and shotgun when when he was at
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina North Carolina State. It took him a while
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  Speaker 2: to play inner center like it. It just it's it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be an adjustment. People need to be patient, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: And playing pre stat motion, there's just a lot different
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  Speaker 2: to answer. To answer your question, Mike, it looks like
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  Speaker 2: it looks like an offense. They've never run here to
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  Speaker 2: something up right.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of I guess more or more pre snap motion,
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  Speaker 1: more past timing in the past game. What kind of
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  Speaker 1: formations and groupings are we seeing here?
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  Speaker 2: All right? So with the timing in the pass the game,
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  Speaker 2: this is it's interesting. The first ten minutes of practice, right,
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  Speaker 2: Hurts is under center play action pass. He throws a
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  Speaker 2: gorgeous crosser to Dallas Godder. Timing was like right on time,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, god it would get the ball Mike in
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  Speaker 2: previous schemes, in previous play callers, but not that type
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  Speaker 2: of route. That's a west coast route. That's uh, that
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  Speaker 2: was a beautiful timing route. Hurts read it correctly, he
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  Speaker 2: put he laid it right on him in stride Mike. See,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the things that jalen It struggled
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  Speaker 2: with mightily is anticipation throws where you know where the
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  Speaker 2: guy's got to be. You're you're throwing the ball in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of his route and telling him to go
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  Speaker 2: get it. That's an anticipation throw because you it's a
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  Speaker 2: spot throw. That throw that I talked about with Goddor
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  Speaker 2: was right there. It was just a great throw that
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  Speaker 2: Doc Davin wis one that I know the reporter saw
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  Speaker 2: that was not that was a broken down play. Hurts
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  Speaker 2: just heaved a downfield and Wicks made a great catch
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  Speaker 2: over two defenders. But so the question formationally, we saw
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  Speaker 2: plenty of twelve personnel, plenty of eleven personnel. See, they
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  Speaker 2: have they have enough players to run. Either it's who's
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  Speaker 2: going to perform at the highest that's gonna that's that'll
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  Speaker 2: determine what they're going to lean towards of the two
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  Speaker 2: personnel groupings. But understand, Mike, they led the NFL in
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  Speaker 2: twenty four in twelve personnel. Why because they were the
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  Speaker 2: best running team in NFL history from beginning through the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So now that times have changed, the offensive
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  Speaker 2: lines Alder beat up if the Brown's gone, So things
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  Speaker 2: are different now we'll see what happens, Mike. But the
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  Speaker 2: personnel groupings, Oh, you also saw a lot of inbreakers.
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  Speaker 2: I love that this goes to you as we've moved this
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  Speaker 2: forward here, Mike, with their offense, I think I think
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  Speaker 2: fans are going to if they're willing to be patient
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  Speaker 2: and it hurts gets the offense, you guys are going
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  Speaker 2: to be like I totally see why Jeffrey Lorie, Harry
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  Speaker 2: Roseman and Nick siy Eyeing won this offense change. But
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  Speaker 2: a lot's got to.
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  Speaker 1: Happen, well, right. The funny part is this is the
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  Speaker 1: kind of off of that AJ Brown may have excelled in.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt. In fact, that was one of the things
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  Speaker 2: we talked about when they traded for him in twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: He excelled at inbreakers. It's called the bangate, where it's
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  Speaker 2: called bang play action, free step drop balls out him
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  Speaker 2: and Ryan Tannehill really did well together with that, and
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  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, Mike Israeli ran it, which is really embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: Quite Frankly's can make that throat. In fact, I saw
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  Speaker 2: when he did it. He threw a great ferrauge. He
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  Speaker 2: made a great pass. I don't know why they don't
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  Speaker 2: do more of it there.
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  Speaker 1: There were so many times, Adam where they ran that
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  Speaker 1: little inside slant to AJ and he would catch it
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  Speaker 1: and drag a defender for two or three xtra yards
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and then they would go away from it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, okay, So Mike on that point, good one.
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  Speaker 2: Don Tavian Wicks, who's technically taller than AJ Brown, long,
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  Speaker 2: big body, he's maybe about an inch taller that he's
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  Speaker 2: actually he looks six three. He's actually just above sixty one.
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  Speaker 2: But he's got long arms, long body. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: see that. Devonte Smith made all sorts of catches McKayle Lemon,
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  Speaker 2: as I suspected with the lineup of the slot, he
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  Speaker 2: did quite a bit. And the Eagles right now, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: before we finish offense, they actually have a true slot
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  Speaker 2: receiver in first round pick MacKaye Lemon.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Adam Kaplin Football at four powered by the
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  Speaker 1: the podcast on all podcasting platforms. Let's go to the defense.
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  Speaker 1: I thought yesterday Vic Fangio, he mentioned Bernard will probably
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  Speaker 1: not be ready for training again. He also said time
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  Speaker 1: will tell whether he'll be ready for the start of
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  Speaker 1: the season. I thought that was a little concerning. But
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  Speaker 1: he adds to the defensive line that has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of talent.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you are, Bernard, it will not be ready. He's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna play this year. I mean he we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if he's on the roster. They made a decision now
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  Speaker 2: because how he put himself out like that. He said
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  Speaker 2: it to the media. Maybe they're just gonna red Shehrterman
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  Speaker 2: in terms of okay, we'll keep on the roster. He's down,
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  Speaker 2: he's Mike. He's essentially there's six defensive tackle and he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't how to play football yet, so it's not like
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  Speaker 2: he's going to learn in five weeks. Come on, let's
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  Speaker 2: during a lot of for people comparing it's completely different. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: during my lot, I never played American football, but he
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  Speaker 2: played rugby. He was a professional rugby player. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: there were some similarities, though he still didn't know how
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  Speaker 2: to play football. I would grant you that's absolutely true,
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  Speaker 2: but this is completely different. This guy really very little
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  Speaker 2: organized sports in his background. He was he was a
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  Speaker 2: personal trainer before the draft, he Mike I was saying
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  Speaker 2: to Andrew, he doesn't look three hundred pounds because he's chiseled.
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  Speaker 2: You could see it, you could see his forearms, but
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  Speaker 2: you just don't. They don't make people who look like
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  Speaker 2: that at defense tackle my Usually they're fat and heavy.
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  Speaker 2: He's not. He looks about two fifty, but he's listited
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  Speaker 2: over three hundred pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a guy who reminds you more of
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  Speaker 1: like a Miles Garrett in terms of his than Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Davis over there. But defensive line a ton of talent
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  Speaker 1: that we h we know what about the I mean, man,
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  Speaker 1: let's rewind foot ball at four to twenty and twenty
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  Speaker 1: one to twenty thirteen and talk about the depth they
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  Speaker 1: have it inside or forget twenty thirteen, two thousand, the
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  Speaker 1: depth and inside linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, and I know they only will
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  Speaker 2: play too. They probably will only keep four. Five would
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  Speaker 2: be shocking. There's no reason to do that. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: there will be some weeks only a dress three inside backers.
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  Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, Zack Bond still looks great,
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  Speaker 2: moves great, and he's going to wear the green dot
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  Speaker 2: this season. John Campbell now Joe hot camp I inter
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  Speaker 2: and I saw the same thing. He didn't look like
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  Speaker 2: he only supposedly around two forty two forty five. He
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  Speaker 2: looked much smaller than that. And remember, because he was
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  Speaker 2: coming back from shoulder issues, we don't know how much
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  Speaker 2: he was able to lift, but someone will look more
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  Speaker 2: into it. Again, they weren't wearing pads. You got to
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  Speaker 2: be careful, but small mom and good athlete. Good Land
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  Speaker 2: trot Junior, a good backup linebacker, Chance Campbell, very athletic, long,
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  Speaker 2: Bobby King there linebackers coach coached them at ten to see.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he's here. And Deiontay Lawson, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: had he not suffered to tow an acl who's not dra
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  Speaker 2: after that of Alabama. He's also long and athletic, six
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  Speaker 2: foot three. The Eagles have gotten really taller in the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years. And we saw this on display,
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  Speaker 2: So there a loaded mike. You're absolutely right. I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen such depth and what I love about it. It's young,
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  Speaker 2: which is a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Adam, Let's go to another spot that it
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  Speaker 1: kind of interesting when you take a look at the
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  Speaker 1: overall speed of this defense. You know, when you look
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  Speaker 1: from sideline to sideline, is that something that stands out
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  Speaker 1: about this team?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Think about this. Okay, Now, Jonathan Gernard unfortunately won't
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  Speaker 2: be ready to the regular season coming back from the
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  Speaker 2: pectorial stream, but he's got an incredible first step quickness.
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  Speaker 2: Bond is one of the better athletes at inside backer,
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  Speaker 2: which we didn't really know when he came here, but
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  Speaker 2: it became one. Jaelegs Hunt is a superstar athlete. I
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  Speaker 2: mean this guy led them in interceptions, led them in sacks.
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  Speaker 2: I Forvar's college safety for two years that he played
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  Speaker 2: edge for two years. This is his fifth year as
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  Speaker 2: an edge rusher. Sky's a limit for this guy. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he's a big time athlete. Macouba's an athlete, Dejeane and
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell Tickley Degene As you know, Mike Jovin Jones was
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  Speaker 2: a very good athlete early in his career, but you
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  Speaker 2: know he turns thirty three soon. Michael Carter's got decent athleticism.
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  Speaker 2: Monin is a good athlete. Arnot A. Buketty's explosive. This
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  Speaker 2: is a really and obviously Rik willis a supreme athlete
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  Speaker 2: and got great speed. Oh one little nugget, I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you this kind of funny if you didn't know better,
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  Speaker 2: I mean looking at Keiey Wringo. We know he's not
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  Speaker 2: in the cornerback quotation, but my goodness, he filled out.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's lower bodies. He used to have pencil legs.
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  Speaker 2: He has really filled out, very very interesting. He's also
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  Speaker 2: told Mike this is the best really athletic team that
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the Eagles have here in a long time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well let's take a look at the safety spot.
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  Speaker 1: It's something that vicd Andrew didn't really want to comment on. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like he has a reason.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, Carl with sdisky. He's back from his
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  Speaker 2: lower body injury. I'm told that it was lower body
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  Speaker 2: wasn't related to the injury in college. He worked Michael CARTERJ. T. Gray.
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  Speaker 2: He's only going to really place special teams, but he's
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  Speaker 2: technically a safety. Andre Sam now in his third year
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  Speaker 2: off and on with the Eagles, but Mike mccouba, as
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  Speaker 2: we talked about when he mister rafted, he's his safety
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  Speaker 2: in a Nichol's body. What's that meanings he's tease, got
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  Speaker 2: a very thin frame. Yes, he's put some masks on
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  Speaker 2: his body, but that doesn't guarantee you anything. It's a concern.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Carter a former really good safety, excuse me, a
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  Speaker 2: former really good nickel who was a safety in College
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  Speaker 2: of Duke. It's kind of trying to revolve his career's
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  Speaker 2: competing against Marcus Epps absolutely clearly on the backside of
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  Speaker 2: his career. Not a really good athlete, smart player, tough, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: this is not that his safety. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say you can hide them, but if you're not great safety,
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  Speaker 2: you could somewhat get away with it. But it is
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  Speaker 2: a problem. I we'll see Teamsky taken advantage of it.
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  Speaker 2: They have literally the only depth they have is the
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  Speaker 2: loser of the Carter battle will be the third safety.
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  Speaker 2: And Wiznowsky is super tall. He's he's a rare tall safety,
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  Speaker 2: but he's just not a great athlete. So it's it
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely proposition. This is one we're gonna watch in
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  Speaker 2: training camp for sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, a couple more with Adam Kapelan here some
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  Speaker 1: observations from the first couple of days of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball. We're taking a
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  Speaker 1: look at what about the size that they have at
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  Speaker 1: the cornerback position. When you take a look at bringing
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  Speaker 1: in the talent that they did there, you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the big things last year, you were a little
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  Speaker 1: small on the opposite side of Kenyon Mitchell and they
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  Speaker 1: seemingly think that they fix that this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with Quinnion Mitchell, he's just over six feet he
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  Speaker 2: has he's taller than average for corner and then you've
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  Speaker 2: got Riekwallan who's over six four, which is unheard of
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  Speaker 2: fluid athlete. You know, you you worry about the lower body,
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  Speaker 2: the strength that we've talked about, the lack of discipline
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  Speaker 2: in his game, which is why he had a sign
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  Speaker 2: for a one yeard deal. Got it. It's gonna make
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  Speaker 2: twelve million. They guaranteed all of it. So he's certainly
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  Speaker 2: going to be on the roster even if he got benched.
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  Speaker 2: But they're counting on him to be a really quality
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  Speaker 2: starter and he's got a lot of motivation, so they've
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  Speaker 2: got two tall corners Degene when he plays nickel, which
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  Speaker 2: I know Vic's is not a corner, but he's we
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  Speaker 2: know he's a good athlete, he's got good size. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they've got they've got good And by the way, yes
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to play coop at the corner of
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  Speaker 2: the season, but Vic didn't look. Vic kind of talked
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  Speaker 2: about it. They don't want to go there. But if
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  Speaker 2: and he didn't deny it, if somebody gets hurt or
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  Speaker 2: is not playing well, gets who they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: calling on John and Jones or Cooper Magine. So that's
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  Speaker 2: someone watched in training camp. But their whole thought process
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  Speaker 2: is that they're going to be so good they're'll be
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  Speaker 2: good enough a corner that they don't have to play
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: coop on the outside.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Well, and he talked about Kaylee Ringo. Maybe he can
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: actually add a little depth to Oh boy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy. They don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Loot.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: The ship was sailed. You can't get rid of lower
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: body stiffness. We talked about this wing hes drafted. We
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: got bleeped on for our criticism or or it was
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: just really it wasn't criticism. We told the truth. He's
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: never going to make it. And when he started playing early,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: we took a lot of heat. We let people say
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: what they wanted about. It's fine. Whatever calls names, ursus
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: out and the truth always set you free. We do
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: it for a living. We don't make stuff up. And
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you can't get rid of that lower body stiffness. So no,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: but Jaccoin Dunnett, who got a little bit of first
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: team reps. That was because they were just doing a
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: rotation and in Thursday's practice. But the guy, the guy
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: was a good quality corner in Maryland. You and I
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: have talked about it, big injury history. Shoulders in particular,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: didn't understand the scheme. Now here's the thing, Mike, he
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: got a full off season, no more excuses, Fina. You
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: were his rookie deal, a lot of motivation. You like
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: him to be the quality fourth corner. Jones is up first.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: If you got hurt, you'd like Bennett to be the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: next guy up. Now. Mac mcwurims is still there. Uh.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: The coaches didn't have any comment cent um to playhim
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: last year when they really could have used him, Mike,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: as you know. But we'll see what happens with.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Him real quick. Last thing yesterday a couple questions about Epanassa.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Do you think that he helps his team out at all?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: He looks good, he is down and waged. I don't
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: they list a bit like two eighty. He's not even
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: close to to eighty. I'd be surprised if he's to
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: sixty to sixty five. Well, if he makes it, Mike
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and Nickel, because the Bills did this, he could play inside.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: He's an okay pass rusher. He's he was really overdrafted
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: by the Bills because he's known in personal stoppers as
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal run stopper. But he can rush the passer.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: He's got great lanth at sixty six, yet another tall player, Mike,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: as you brought him up, We'll see it's gonna be hard.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what we talked about this a
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. You know, Byer Young's the first
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: back off the bench. That's not up to debate aating question.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: It's he's already he's the first guy off the bench.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Ty Robinson, We've said it last couple of weeks, Mike,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: he's not a lot to make it. Probably will, but
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't, you talking about at Panessa, maybe Gabe Hall.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Who's flash last summer? But Ty Robinson's got to get
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: things going here, all.
• 18:21
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• 18:30
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• 18:32
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• 18:38
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, enjoy the weekend you two.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks