Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Master Manipulator
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Judge just got finished watching Jersey.
- 0:14Speaker 2: What a shit show that was.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I mean the level of shit show. I mean, first
- 0:21Speaker 1: and foremost, we need to talk about how Andy has
- 0:26Speaker 1: officially met his impatient parent era Teresa and Melissa, for sure.
- 0:33Speaker 2: But first, I mean starting out with Teresa still in denial,
- 0:37Speaker 2: still in denial to everybody's fault. She was put in
- 0:40Speaker 2: She wasn't put in jail, she was put in prison,
- 0:43Speaker 2: federal prison. And I mean, Sweetie, it was your husband.
- 0:50Speaker 2: It wasn't Melissa, it wasn't Caroline, it wasn't Joey. It
- 0:55Speaker 2: was your husband, and you you signed.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Here's that everybody needs to be very clear about.
- 1:02Speaker 1: If you are in the public eye in any capacity anything,
- 1:09Speaker 1: any sort of breaking the law or taxes or whatever
- 1:13Speaker 1: it may be, they are going to take additional time
- 1:17Speaker 1: to look into you.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the thing. Pay your taxes and you
- 1:23Speaker 2: won't have a red flag on your ass.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And also, I don't know, I just feel like the
- 1:29Speaker 1: continuous discussion over I mean, how many years ago was that.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, if that was me, which it
- 1:37Speaker 2: would never be me. If it was, and it was
- 1:39Speaker 2: brought up. I would take full ownership of it and say,
- 1:42Speaker 2: you're right. I did something stupid. I signed papers I
- 1:45Speaker 2: didn't look at and I went to prison. It was
- 1:48Speaker 2: my husband's fault, it was my fault. I was stupid
- 1:50Speaker 2: not to read it into story. Stop blaming people.
- 1:54Speaker 3: And then I saw which I sent over this morning.
- 1:59Speaker 1: That now Joe Judice you houside New Jersey. Joe Judice
- 2:07Speaker 1: supports ex wife Teresa Judaice claimed that her brother Joe
- 2:12Speaker 1: Gorga and sister in law Melissa Gorga, helped land the
- 2:15Speaker 1: two of them behind bars almost a decade ago. They
- 2:20Speaker 1: came on the show. They were very good friends with
- 2:22Speaker 1: my ex partner's attorney, which went to the FEDS, which
- 2:26Speaker 1: I think Melissa and Joe were involved, Joe alleged on
- 2:30Speaker 1: Monday's episode of Behind the Velvet Rope. Okay, one, Joe,
- 2:36Speaker 1: you're the one that actually did it, regardless, like let
- 2:39Speaker 1: it to me. It doesn't matter who it is that
- 2:42Speaker 1: went to the Feds. I think the Feds were also
- 2:45Speaker 1: already involved. But then did you catch when Teresa said,
- 2:49Speaker 1: we know because we talked to the Feds, I'm sure, Oh, yes,
- 2:52Speaker 1: that arrested. You also let you know who the informant was.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Yes, and the interrogation they tipped me off. Okay, Teresa, Okay,
- 3:02Speaker 2: I mean, for the love of God, just stop. Stop Teresa.
- 3:08Speaker 2: You did something wrong, you went to prison. End it
- 3:11Speaker 2: right there. Take response.
- 3:13Speaker 1: You're a number to get in touch with the Feds,
- 3:15Speaker 1: like one eight hundred. Call your FED friend like.
- 3:20Speaker 2: There is if you go to the web website, there
- 3:22Speaker 2: is a tip area where you can throw in tips.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Oh do you check this out?
- 3:28Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I know that I have a friend that
- 3:30Speaker 2: was a federal agent.
- 3:31Speaker 1: So, oh is his name? Bo Dieetle?
- 3:35Speaker 2: No, No, I'm tired and a very good guy.
- 3:39Speaker 3: But Teresa, yeah, who knows.
- 3:43Speaker 1: But Teresa bring up things from ten years ago, like
- 3:46Speaker 1: a guilty child trying to get the heat off of them.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Okay, so then you know we start we kind of
- 3:52Speaker 3: break it down.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Melissa reads the text that Jackie got from Jacqueline Lorita,
- 3:58Speaker 1: which also I checked was from twenty twenty one.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, there's a lot more text
- 4:05Speaker 2: than just what she read. I was sent all of
- 4:08Speaker 2: the text messages. They're all pretty nasty. But my problem is,
- 4:13Speaker 2: my concern is why did Dolores go, this is bad.
- 4:17Speaker 2: You're going down like under her breath. Like, why because Melissa,
- 4:22Speaker 2: I mean, everybody plays dirty on that cast, like Teresa's
- 4:25Speaker 2: played dirty this entire time. Why is it so bad
- 4:28Speaker 2: that Melissa read this?
- 4:31Speaker 1: Well? I think, I mean the problem that I had
- 4:34Speaker 1: with the text is ninety percent of what she said
- 4:41Speaker 1: was about her looks. Yeah, and I here's the thing,
- 4:45Speaker 1: like I mean to even say, uh, okay, I know
- 4:49Speaker 1: I shouldn't care about her arrogance voice and the fact
- 4:52Speaker 1: that she gets away with way too much after being
- 4:54Speaker 1: a nasty asshole bothers me. She's a low life trash bucket.
- 4:58Speaker 1: She's stupid but also very calculating. Even with two facelifts,
- 5:02Speaker 1: I lift, nose jobs, shaved forehead, botox fillers, and new boobs,
- 5:07Speaker 1: she is still so ugly. I just think I mean it. Yeah,
- 5:12Speaker 1: I mean, we have six additional texts that we're not
- 5:15Speaker 1: reading because it's unnecessary.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Do you think they're still friends?
- 5:21Speaker 3: I think all of it is.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Now. I'm getting to the point where I'm like, is
- 5:27Speaker 1: Jacqueline in a situation where she's wanting to be back
- 5:34Speaker 1: in the mix of the spotlight again?
- 5:36Speaker 2: Well, I talked to her, and she says, no, she
- 5:38Speaker 2: does not want to be on the show. She does
- 5:40Speaker 2: not want She's even moved to Orange County. Since she
- 5:42Speaker 2: does not want to be on Orange County, she has
- 5:44Speaker 2: moved on. But I mean, they have deep rooted shit
- 5:49Speaker 2: going on in that cast, and they were friends for
- 5:51Speaker 2: a very long time. I would have liked to see
- 5:54Speaker 2: Jackie read these texts instead of Melissa.
- 5:56Speaker 1: That's what I was Yeah. Also the fact that Jackie
- 5:58Speaker 1: wasn't there to read the text or even explain the
- 6:00Speaker 1: context of why Jackie and Jacqueline were talking about it.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Do you remember was Jackie on the couch when the
- 6:07Speaker 2: this is brought up?
- 6:08Speaker 1: She wasn't. Now I don't think so, right, But also
- 6:10Speaker 1: we had to remember this is probably if it's twenty
- 6:13Speaker 1: twenty one.
- 6:14Speaker 3: I'm just guessing. I'm not the best at math, as
- 6:16Speaker 3: we know, but Jackie, I'm assuming this is after Jackie.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Outed that Evan allegedly had an affair by Teresa, so
- 6:28Speaker 1: she was probably mad at Teresa and texting with Jacqueline.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And if you guys.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Think these text messages don't go on between friends when
- 6:36Speaker 2: you're in a cast like this and you get pissed off,
- 6:39Speaker 2: they happen.
- 6:40Speaker 1: They do, they happen, you.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Will find shitty, shitty things.
- 6:45Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just felt like it was
- 6:48Speaker 1: Melissa reading Jacqueline's text was a little bit off to me. Now, Mistay, I.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Just want to say this now, mis stay your asshole.
- 6:57Speaker 1: And then but then Teresa's like, yeah, and then I'll
- 7:00Speaker 1: get this up your asshole too.
- 7:01Speaker 2: I was like yeah, and then and then, I mean
- 7:04Speaker 2: they were what they were saying back and forth was
- 7:06Speaker 2: hilarious because it was so stupid. And then she's like, yeah, now,
- 7:09Speaker 2: mis stay my asshole. I was like, nobody's touching my asshole.
- 7:14Speaker 2: I don't care how I now, Mistay you are.
- 7:17Speaker 1: I was looking at, you know, a couple of different things.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I was really trying to keep an open mind watching this.
- 7:23Speaker 4: Yeah, but what I didn't understand is like they just
- 7:27Speaker 4: didn't stop. And at this point, it's there's nothing interesting
- 7:32Speaker 4: to say between the two of them anymore.
- 7:34Speaker 1: They're just going at it, but there's there's not even
- 7:39Speaker 1: anything to discuss that hasn't been discussed one million times.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Well, you could tell by Andy's face he was completely
- 7:47Speaker 2: over it.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Also annoyed at Janada, Yeah.
- 7:53Speaker 2: He was, even though even though she tried to kiss
- 7:57Speaker 2: his ass and tell me he had big dick energy,
- 8:00Speaker 2: and I felt.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Like a I feel like she took notes before the
- 8:03Speaker 1: reunion and then used her a couple of one liners,
- 8:06Speaker 1: but they didn't hit for me. But I did. I
- 8:08Speaker 1: thought that Melissa, I mean, I thought that Marge handled
- 8:11Speaker 1: all that pretty well. But I know we're jumping all
- 8:13Speaker 1: over the place.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I know, but it's just so much to talk about.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Okay. So then the next part is Rachel says Jaden's
- 8:30Speaker 1: birth mom was contacted because Louie had someone track her down. Says,
- 8:36Speaker 1: it makes sense Louie yelled bo diedle knows things. Teresa
- 8:41Speaker 1: says Margaret pulls dirt on people but doesn't have money
- 8:44Speaker 1: to hire a PI, which please. And then Melissa tells
- 8:50Speaker 1: Teresa that her first scene this season with Margaret was
- 8:53Speaker 1: fake and wanted her storyline to be no mistake. Okay,
- 8:57Speaker 1: do you what did you actually think of that makeup
- 9:00Speaker 1: with Marche I thought it was bullshit too.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little bullshit, But you know what,
- 9:03Speaker 2: sometimes we need to have those little makeups so we
- 9:05Speaker 2: can move on because some of these storylines are just
- 9:06Speaker 2: they need to put a pin in it. And even
- 9:08Speaker 2: though there's not truly a pin in it, they need
- 9:10Speaker 2: to move on for the sake of the show.
- 9:13Speaker 1: True. Okay, then we get to jen Aiden says she
- 9:18Speaker 1: called Melissa and told her about the cheating rumor. This
- 9:21Speaker 1: part had me floored. I know that jen Aiden is
- 9:26Speaker 1: playing producer, because.
- 9:30Speaker 2: It wasn't it so evident that she was playing producer
- 9:33Speaker 2: her whole fact, Like this happened to me. I would
- 9:35Speaker 2: never do this to somebody else. And behind the scenes
- 9:38Speaker 2: or even in front of the camera, she is plating this.
- 9:44Speaker 3: That's bothersome to me, is she doesn't give. I don't
- 9:49Speaker 3: think she.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Thought Andy was going to call her out on that
- 9:51Speaker 1: at the reunion, like I thought that she thought it
- 9:54Speaker 1: was going to just skate by. But it was actually
- 9:58Speaker 1: really disturbing engrossed to me when I found out she
- 10:02Speaker 1: personally had already talked to Melissa about it. Yeah, it
- 10:08Speaker 1: was discussing another level. Like it's one thing if they
- 10:12Speaker 1: heard the way that we watched it, I could have
- 10:16Speaker 1: you know, I knew, Like it's a show.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, what are your thoughts
- 10:21Speaker 2: on Danielle? This was her perfect opportunity to really stand
- 10:26Speaker 2: up for herself. And to realize that she was set up.
- 10:31Speaker 2: She was set up to do this. And she sat
- 10:33Speaker 2: there and Andy asked her, do you feel set up?
- 10:36Speaker 2: And she went no, And then she goes into her
- 10:39Speaker 2: green room and what does she do? I was set up? Like,
- 10:44Speaker 2: you know what, that's fire, fire, goodbye. If you can't
- 10:46Speaker 2: be honest out on the couch.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Goodbye, Well, because she's scared of the couch that she's on.
- 10:52Speaker 3: But also, Danielle, a little tip for you.
- 10:56Speaker 1: They also set you up just now to have a
- 10:59Speaker 1: moment at the union. But again you flopped. Yeah, you
- 11:03Speaker 1: felt like this moment and realized, wow, it does kind
- 11:07Speaker 1: of seem like a setup now that I know jen
- 11:10Speaker 1: Aiden had already told Melissa. Yeah, she's when I thought
- 11:15Speaker 1: just Joe Gorga had told Melissa when the Louis conversation happened.
- 11:19Speaker 1: But once I knew jen Aiden had, I was like,
- 11:24Speaker 1: now you just want another storyline out there about a
- 11:28Speaker 1: cheater to take the heat off you in your relationship.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, production at its finest, I didn't lock it.
- 11:36Speaker 1: I didn't lock it one bit.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Well, you know what I did like, I like the
- 11:41Speaker 2: way Jenfesler looked.
- 11:44Speaker 1: I did too. I thought she looked beautiful more so
- 11:50Speaker 1: than how beautiful. I liked how she took ownership for it,
- 11:54Speaker 1: and I liked that she wasn't afraid to like be vulnerable.
- 11:59Speaker 1: She's actually said to Andy, well, you know, Andy, I
- 12:03Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna be asked back, right, so.
- 12:06Speaker 2: I had here's my chance, here's my chance.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like really endearing and cute and honest.
- 12:12Speaker 1: And I thought she was beautiful before, but to each.
- 12:15Speaker 2: His own, and she looks amazing, amazing.
- 12:20Speaker 1: She looks amazing. I also appreciated the way that Jackie
- 12:28Speaker 1: an third question about ozempic, Yeah, I same.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I feel the same about ozempic. You take it, you
- 12:37Speaker 2: lose a lot of weight. You can't be on it
- 12:39Speaker 2: for life. And then when you get a little bit
- 12:41Speaker 2: of that, you know, I'm really thin and I look great.
- 12:45Speaker 2: People are not doing what it takes to maintain it.
- 12:47Speaker 2: You don't have to be an ozembic unless you medically
- 12:50Speaker 2: need it, but you can, you know, you can jumpstart
- 12:53Speaker 2: maybe if you're you know, overweight, you can jump start it.
- 12:55Speaker 2: But you have to change your diet and your routine
- 12:57Speaker 2: and your exercise, and you have to change your lifestyle
- 13:00Speaker 2: to continue that and a lot of people are not
- 13:01Speaker 2: going to do that.
- 13:02Speaker 1: But what she's saying is that past that is, once
- 13:06Speaker 1: you're off of whatever the medication are that you're taking,
- 13:09Speaker 1: because let's be honest, now there's like twenty your mind,
- 13:16Speaker 1: you're gonna start to have potentially start to have body
- 13:19Speaker 1: dysmorphia type situations because if you've bought all new clothes,
- 13:22Speaker 1: you're a completely new size for sure, and it's because
- 13:25Speaker 1: of the shot. And then what are your alternatives when
- 13:31Speaker 1: you stop if you haven't learned to change your lifestyle starving.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's body disentusia, but I
- 13:36Speaker 2: think when you lose all that weight and you look
- 13:38Speaker 2: that great, and then after you go off of it
- 13:42Speaker 2: and you start gaining weight, you're going to go into
- 13:44Speaker 2: depression and you're gonna like you're you're it's gonna be
- 13:49Speaker 2: upsetting to you. And then you're gonna want to go
- 13:50Speaker 2: back on or you're gonna want to take another pill
- 13:52Speaker 2: and you're not gonna want to put the world.
- 13:53Speaker 1: You're gonna stop eating, or you're gonna learn other types
- 13:57Speaker 1: of eating disorders.
- 13:58Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is always gonna happen.
- 13:59Speaker 1: And I think that if it's for somebody who goes
- 14:03Speaker 1: on for a short period of time and they maintain
- 14:05Speaker 1: you know whatever. But if you're going to consistently live
- 14:07Speaker 1: on it, right, there is always like all medications, well
- 14:12Speaker 1: that's good.
- 14:12Speaker 2: There's a good way of doing it. Like I have
- 14:14Speaker 2: a friend that did it, and she only went on
- 14:17Speaker 2: for a few months. She lost her weight, but also
- 14:19Speaker 2: while she was on it, she totally changed her eating habits.
- 14:23Speaker 2: She says, Yes, it's a lot easier to stick to,
- 14:26Speaker 2: you know, my new lifestyle when I'm on nozempic, because
- 14:29Speaker 2: I don't get hungry when I'm on ozempic. But I've
- 14:32Speaker 2: learned and i know what it takes. I like the
- 14:34Speaker 2: way that skinny tasted, and I'm just going to maintain it.
- 14:37Speaker 1: But I don't. And so you guys do know if
- 14:39Speaker 1: you are listening to this podcast, if you're on nozempic
- 14:42Speaker 1: or mon Journo or wagov or Semaglue Tide or whatever
- 14:45Speaker 1: it is over at all in We have now started
- 14:49Speaker 1: accepting clients that are our medication through the doctors because
- 14:54Speaker 1: we want to support teaching you the healthy lifestyle that
- 14:59Speaker 1: you you will need to maintain this. I'm not we're
- 15:03Speaker 1: not showing them before and after photos because I don't
- 15:05Speaker 1: think that's a fully true representation of of, you know,
- 15:09Speaker 1: the weight loss. But yeah, if you are considering doing it,
- 15:16Speaker 1: you do. It doesn't have to be all in, but
- 15:18Speaker 1: you should be working with some sort of program that
- 15:22Speaker 1: is going to teach you on how to properly nourish
- 15:25Speaker 1: your body. But moving on from that, do you think
- 15:29Speaker 1: that Jackie and Jen Fessler had a good enough reunion?
- 15:33Speaker 2: No, I don't think they did. I think that first
- 15:35Speaker 2: of all, they won't even really ask any questions. I
- 15:37Speaker 2: think it was so overshadowed by the Teresa and Melissa situation.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Jen tried to, you know, step in and give her
- 15:44Speaker 2: two cents, but I felt like that whole segment should
- 15:48Speaker 2: have been they were only out there for a short time.
- 15:50Speaker 2: It really should have been about that, and it.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Was nothing was about them.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Nothing was about them.
- 15:55Speaker 1: But I can say this, I think if we were
- 15:57Speaker 1: going to go down the line of jin Jackie, Rachel,
- 16:02Speaker 1: and Danielle, I'm picking Jackie and Jen.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Fessler for a return.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Well, I do think Rachel has good potential.
- 16:16Speaker 3: I think she's I think Rachel's husband has good potential.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Oh, but the one that just had LIFO. Yeah, I
- 16:23Speaker 2: cannot believe she said that he had LIFEO like that.
- 16:27Speaker 1: She's straight, like transparent and honest. But you see in
- 16:30Speaker 1: the coming up for next week, like John goes at it.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I think that Rachel will come around. I think that
- 16:38Speaker 1: she's very.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I think she deserves another shot for sure.
- 16:42Speaker 1: I think she deserves another shot. I think that Danielle
- 16:47Speaker 1: I don't really know what the issue is. Like, she
- 16:50Speaker 1: comes out so loud sometimes, like you know, with her
- 16:53Speaker 1: balls hanging out the door or whatever it was. But
- 16:57Speaker 1: when it comes down to it and it's something she does,
- 17:00Speaker 1: she doesn't doesn't deliver at the end of the story.
- 17:02Speaker 2: But you know who was really feeling himself? Jenaden, No,
- 17:07Speaker 2: that's Louie walking around with his shirt off. Oh I'm like, dude,
- 17:11Speaker 2: what are you doing? And then all the guys are
- 17:13Speaker 2: in one room and they all have their clothes on
- 17:15Speaker 2: and he's with a shirt.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, no, but did you realize that the
- 17:19Speaker 1: guys were separated?
- 17:21Speaker 2: And well, of course, yeah, yeah.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Okay, then we get to Frank says there has been
- 17:29Speaker 1: angry arguments in the show that it hasn't gotten to
- 17:32Speaker 1: this point until now and I'm sitting there going back,
- 17:35Speaker 1: you know, so the parties with the table flippings, and
- 17:39Speaker 1: I'm like, really, but either way, he's like the only
- 17:43Speaker 1: thing different in this group that's causing issues is Louie. Yeah,
- 17:49Speaker 1: and for sure the part that acts. And so then
- 17:53Speaker 1: it also said he upset his son because Frankie isn't
- 17:57Speaker 1: working for Louie anymore since they closed the company, and
- 18:00Speaker 1: Louie didn't tell Frankie.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Well, I know a little bit more about that, but
- 18:04Speaker 2: I don't think I can say it yet. But because
- 18:06Speaker 2: it hasn't really the guys really haven't spoke on the reunion,
- 18:10Speaker 2: so I don't know if he's going to give all
- 18:11Speaker 2: the details of what went down with that.
- 18:13Speaker 1: But it was.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Really shitty, really really shitty.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Well, I think the part that frightened me was when
- 18:24Speaker 1: they do show the guys and all the guys are
- 18:27Speaker 1: like trying to stay calm, one you can tell that
- 18:30Speaker 1: Andy is actually frightened. It's going to get physical. Well,
- 18:33Speaker 1: Andy was not playing it up for the cameras, like
- 18:36Speaker 1: he goes into the guys and he's like, hey, I
- 18:39Speaker 1: really I need you to not get physical to stay
- 18:43Speaker 1: out of the wait.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Was it only Louie that he said that too, or
- 18:47Speaker 2: was it all of that?
- 18:48Speaker 1: He said it to Louie, but then he said it
- 18:51Speaker 1: to Joe gorgo right when Joe sat down, he said,
- 18:54Speaker 1: you need to stay in your seat, okay, But when
- 18:58Speaker 1: Louie was I forget. There was something going on back
- 19:01Speaker 1: and forth and Louis looked it was like almost like
- 19:07Speaker 1: he wasn't a human anymore, Like his eyes looked straight
- 19:10Speaker 1: at I think it was Joe and he was like,
- 19:13Speaker 1: I know more.
- 19:14Speaker 2: He was like Kenya. He was on Kenya when she
- 19:17Speaker 2: opened the door. And the red eyes, yeah, yellow eyes,
- 19:22Speaker 2: I think they were Oh my god.
- 19:36Speaker 3: There was two things that Dolores did during the reunion
- 19:39Speaker 3: that I liked.
- 19:42Speaker 1: One when they make the joke about Melissa when Teresa's
- 19:46Speaker 1: kind of going, I mean, the whole thing is Teresa
- 19:48Speaker 1: and Melissa fighting, because you know, it's tip for tat
- 19:52Speaker 1: the majority of the time, what Melissa saying is making
- 19:55Speaker 1: more sense than Teresa, only because I don't know how
- 19:57Speaker 1: Teresa's handling like getting caught up and multiple things that
- 20:01Speaker 1: aren't actually tracking. But uh, her next allegation is that
- 20:09Speaker 1: clearly there's something up with Melissa if she was drunk
- 20:12Speaker 1: and she said, I'm gonna text my ex one the
- 20:15Speaker 1: ex must be I mean, how long have those two been.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Min that's like eighteen years or something like shut.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Can you imagine like if I was gonna text my ex, like, oh,
- 20:23Speaker 1: hi Bobby Hopper from when I was fifteen.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Hi Joey Spencer, how are you Joey Spencer? I know
- 20:30Speaker 2: it's been forty years, but.
- 20:33Speaker 1: I just thought i'd reach out Bobby.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Let you know.
- 20:37Speaker 1: I know I don't even have your number anymore. Oh
- 20:40Speaker 1: my god, I texted again.
- 20:42Speaker 2: I think her mode in Ireland. I think her motivation
- 20:45Speaker 2: behind that was maybe a little bit of she knew
- 20:48Speaker 2: that they were saying stuff about her cheating and she
- 20:51Speaker 2: just kind of threw that out. Maybe that was just
- 20:52Speaker 2: like a you know, a bait to see if they
- 20:55Speaker 2: were going to say something I liked.
- 20:58Speaker 1: When Dolores said I I thought that was funny. Funny. Yeah,
- 21:01Speaker 1: she did two things where she stood up to Teresa's
- 21:04Speaker 1: she said I thought that was funny. And then there
- 21:07Speaker 1: was another point in time where once we get into
- 21:10Speaker 1: all the Margaret stuff.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Yeah, but when Delora said you're going down that right
- 21:16Speaker 2: there went wrong?
- 21:18Speaker 1: Like what who I think I missed this. Who did
- 21:21Speaker 1: she say she was going down to to Melissa?
- 21:24Speaker 2: Melissa was reading the text messages and she's like, you're
- 21:27Speaker 2: going down and I'm like, wait what that doesn't even
- 21:30Speaker 2: sound like something Dolores would say. The Dolores said we
- 21:33Speaker 2: see on TV. So it's like, wait, there's so much
- 21:36Speaker 2: that's so much evil that spit back and forth, but
- 21:39Speaker 2: those text messages are going to make her go down?
- 21:42Speaker 3: Well, I think the text messages were kind of disgusting.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Well, it's going on with Teresa's disgusting, the boatddle, all
- 21:50Speaker 2: the stuff, investigating everybody there, like, and if.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Those were the text messages she was sharing, I think
- 21:57Speaker 1: that makes more sense. But she wasn't. She was sharing
- 22:00Speaker 1: shit from twenty twenty one about Teresa's looks, don't. I
- 22:05Speaker 1: don't like that, just like I didn't like Jen Aiden
- 22:07Speaker 1: going after Margaret's Margaret and Margaret Margaret took it and
- 22:12Speaker 1: she's like, talk about my looks all you want.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty shitty for sure.
- 22:17Speaker 1: What about when? Then Margaret says her child was called
- 22:20Speaker 1: and threatned at work by Louie and has the phone records.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Teresa says she gets spoof calls all the time, and
- 22:29Speaker 1: Andy says, there's hacks going on.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Okay, can we talk about to explain how this works? Yes,
- 22:34Speaker 2: I do you get them?
- 22:37Speaker 1: Also? I got them. Kyle and I were sitting at
- 22:42Speaker 1: last season that I was on the show. We're sitting
- 22:44Speaker 1: down filming the very first thing that we filmed of
- 22:47Speaker 1: that season. We're sitting there and all of a sudden,
- 22:52Speaker 1: her phone rings and it's Lisa vander Pump and who
- 22:56Speaker 1: doesn't talk to us? My phone rings and it's Lisa Renna.
- 23:00Speaker 1: We're both filming. We look up at production and we're
- 23:02Speaker 1: like do we answer? And we like hold up the
- 23:04Speaker 1: phones and they're like, yeah, like weird that there was
- 23:08Speaker 1: the exact same.
- 23:09Speaker 2: And nobody's there.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Nobody's there. We both pick up and then they then
- 23:14Speaker 1: it was switching back and forth between the two of us,
- 23:18Speaker 1: calling like twenty five times. So then we started panicking.
- 23:22Speaker 1: I'm like text and Eric, I'm like, have you talked
- 23:24Speaker 1: to Lisa ren And we're getting these like a million
- 23:26Speaker 1: calls from Lisa vander Pump And none of the calls
- 23:29Speaker 1: actually existed. But the difference is this is on a
- 23:33Speaker 1: cell phone.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, guys, So basically what happened somebody hacked into
- 23:39Speaker 2: like the Housewife database. I don't know if it was
- 23:41Speaker 2: from Bravo whatever. We will get these phone calls. I'll
- 23:44Speaker 2: get phone calls from Vicky and I'll be like, hey,
- 23:46Speaker 2: sugar tits, what's up? How I answer my phone to
- 23:49Speaker 2: Vicky all the time and there's nobody there, And it
- 23:52Speaker 2: happens randomly, and it will happen like a few times
- 23:55Speaker 2: in a month, but there's never anybody there. This is
- 23:58Speaker 2: not what happened. However, Teresa knew that this was going
- 24:03Speaker 2: to be brought up. This is a different situation. Her child,
- 24:07Speaker 2: Margaret's child, was at work and on a private line
- 24:11Speaker 2: that nobody can get that phone number two unless it's
- 24:13Speaker 2: given out, was called by Louie and was allegedly said
- 24:20Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff to him, and her child could
- 24:23Speaker 2: look at the color idea and say hey, Louie, and
- 24:27Speaker 2: at that point Louie hung up. So this but did
- 24:32Speaker 2: you notice when this was brought up on air on
- 24:35Speaker 2: the couch, Teresa reached behind her, took her phone out,
- 24:39Speaker 2: started texting who I think? She texts Louie to let
- 24:43Speaker 2: him know, Okay, this has happened, go ahead and make
- 24:45Speaker 2: those calls and somehow Louie was able to call her
- 24:49Speaker 2: two times and let her know. Oh look, Andy, I mean,
- 24:51Speaker 2: how convenient and how set up was that?
- 24:55Speaker 1: I just I mean clearly they knew this was coming up,
- 24:58Speaker 1: because I think one point, Margaret says, you know all
- 25:02Speaker 1: this legals involved already, so they called. I mean, it
- 25:07Speaker 1: really goes to show what.
- 25:11Speaker 2: An actress she is. Man Like, She's like, like, what
- 25:15Speaker 2: I never heard this? Yes you have, Yes, you have
- 25:18Speaker 2: your attorney.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Then contract. Then she has the balls to then get
- 25:21Speaker 1: mad at Dolores because Dolores didn't call her after she
- 25:26Speaker 1: found out. And I appreciate Delores, It's like, why would
- 25:29Speaker 1: I One you already knew, and two I don't want
- 25:32Speaker 1: to be involved in this ship show, right, Like why
- 25:35Speaker 1: add more people to the mix, Like this is already
- 25:38Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation, This is already But why would.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Dolores call her to tell her when she already knew?
- 25:43Speaker 2: When Delores knew she knew.
- 25:45Speaker 1: That's my point. There's no one.
- 25:48Speaker 2: It's just Teresa trying twisting twisting man, that la manipulator.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Listen. I don't think that Melissa. I thought, yes, Melissa
- 25:57Speaker 1: made very good points at the beginning, but then Melyssa
- 26:00Speaker 1: fell into the trap of tip for tat with me
- 26:03Speaker 1: with Teresa, and that's where it just kind of got
- 26:08Speaker 1: like when Teresa to Melissa is like, I can't wait
- 26:11Speaker 1: to never see your face again after today, and then
- 26:14Speaker 1: Andy says, let me know how that goes. Yes, I
- 26:18Speaker 1: don't see a casting agent in Teresa's future.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Well didn't he say something like you know how that
- 26:25Speaker 2: ends up? Something like that?
- 26:27Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 26:27Speaker 2: Yeah, if you say that, you might be the one
- 26:29Speaker 2: that's going to go. But my question, conversating is conversating?
- 26:35Speaker 1: Oh Danielle was so happy about that.
- 26:37Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I think it's conversing. And if
- 26:41Speaker 2: you even put conversating into your iPhone, it will not
- 26:45Speaker 2: it will not accept it. It's not a word, and
- 26:48Speaker 2: not that that. Your iPhone's a dictionary.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Go to urban dictionary.
- 26:51Speaker 2: So I think it's it like Markt's right, it's kind
- 26:54Speaker 2: of a new.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Yeah, but if it's an urban dictionary, you can use
- 26:58Speaker 1: it urban dictionary.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Yeah. Isn't that where glory holes in and things like that?
- 27:05Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a word.
- 27:06Speaker 2: We say, it's it's.
- 27:11Speaker 1: For saving convert mhm, no, no, we have a problem.
- 27:27Speaker 1: So it's slang.
- 27:29Speaker 2: It's slang, So I don't think it's I mean, here's
- 27:32Speaker 2: the thing you're allowed to say.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Slang slang is you know, whatever.
- 27:36Speaker 1: But but Margaret wasn't wrong the ox the Oxford Dictionary
- 27:42Speaker 1: does list converse sate converse sate all right, Teresa says
- 27:49Speaker 1: Marge is an old hat. Margretwarts Teresa is a criminal,
- 27:54Speaker 1: Teresa gets you know, the two calls from Margaret coincidence,
- 27:58Speaker 1: all those.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Things so stage it made me want to poke my
- 28:01Speaker 2: eyeballs out, and it made me annoyed that Andy didn't
- 28:03Speaker 2: even like say like, oh, come on, come on.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Even then Andy got into the hacking thing, was a
- 28:10Speaker 1: little bit confusing.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Well, they just gives her a way out. And that's
- 28:14Speaker 2: what pisses me up, because fifty percent of the people
- 28:16Speaker 2: are gonna go, oh, there's a hacking thing going on. No, guys,
- 28:18Speaker 2: this hacking thing is phone calls within You have to
- 28:21Speaker 2: have that person's phone number in your phone to even
- 28:23Speaker 2: get a call from them. So it looks like Vicky's
- 28:25Speaker 2: calling me, but nobody's there on the other line. So
- 28:28Speaker 2: it's just it pissed me off that that was kind
- 28:30Speaker 2: of like, oh, well, you know, it could have been that. No,
- 28:33Speaker 2: it wasn't that. It wasn't that. And let me ask
- 28:35Speaker 2: you a question. Have you gotten one of those calls lately? No,
- 28:39Speaker 2: neither of I. I haven't gotten one in over probably
- 28:42Speaker 2: two months. Well.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Also, sometimes you can get like a group text.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Have you gotten that? Like one time it was like
- 28:50Speaker 1: me and Andy at like forty five people on it. No,
- 28:53Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell? And then I
- 28:56Speaker 1: asked and He's like, I know, I got it too.
- 28:58Speaker 2: It's not Yeah, I've gotten text messages from uh what
- 29:04Speaker 2: looks like somebody, but it's not but not like a
- 29:06Speaker 2: group one.
- 29:07Speaker 3: So did you love this reunion?
- 29:09Speaker 1: I mean I have people that were saying like, oh,
- 29:11Speaker 1: I'm obsessed, like that was so good. I personally, when
- 29:15Speaker 1: I look around that room and I look at Eviriendships,
- 29:18Speaker 1: I thought it was it made me feel yucky.
- 29:21Speaker 2: It made me feel yucky, it was evil. It kind
- 29:25Speaker 2: of pretty much sealed the deal that these two cannot
- 29:28Speaker 2: work together.
- 29:31Speaker 3: But also when you look around and this isn't me,
- 29:35Speaker 3: This is truly not me picking aside. This is truly
- 29:38Speaker 3: just me looking at the foundation of the group. If
- 29:44Speaker 3: Melissa is gone, Teresa stays, who are Teresa's friends jen
- 29:53Speaker 3: Aiden and Dolores.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Yep, three Musketeers.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Then we've got Marge, but.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Danielle, Rachel, Jackie, Rachel.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Jackie, I don't know. We heard rumors Jackie's gone, oh really,
- 30:15Speaker 1: But I mean, who knows. But I don't take.
- 30:17Speaker 2: Anybody knows what's gonna happen yet. I don't even think
- 30:19Speaker 2: Bravo knows how to fix this because it's bad and
- 30:23Speaker 2: it can't continue.
- 30:24Speaker 1: Like this well, and it's gonna get worse. We see
- 30:26Speaker 1: in the scenes for next week when Teresa is like,
- 30:30Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I'm running out, and then she's like, I
- 30:32Speaker 1: don't know who she's talking to you she's talking.
- 30:34Speaker 2: To Joe because last reunion Joe chased after her. Ah
- 30:40Speaker 2: m hm, and she's like, down, God, Barbie, and he
- 30:43Speaker 2: probably is like, I don't want to.
- 30:46Speaker 1: I have another question. Have you tried to what did
- 30:51Speaker 1: they call it a pussy pot? Have you tried that?
- 30:53Speaker 2: I don't even know what a pussy pot is.
- 30:56Speaker 1: I've heard of it. So one of my friends uses
- 30:58Speaker 1: it all the time, and she says that it is
- 31:00Speaker 1: a game changer.
- 31:01Speaker 2: So don't you watch game changer for what was it?
- 31:04Speaker 1: Do you spray it on your who? Who? And then it.
- 31:09Speaker 3: Gives you like these really intense.
- 31:12Speaker 2: Oh oh oh is it?
- 31:16Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 31:17Speaker 2: I actually I was given one. Actually we were looking
- 31:21Speaker 2: into that and I have a sample of that and yeah,
- 31:24Speaker 2: that does it does work?
- 31:26Speaker 1: Can you send it to me? Because I went on
- 31:28Speaker 1: Ease the app last night to see if it existed
- 31:31Speaker 1: there after the first because I have to watch this
- 31:33Speaker 1: so two times. The first time I watched the show,
- 31:36Speaker 1: I went on Ease, I'm like, I'm curious. If it's
- 31:39Speaker 1: not there it maybe well.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Maybe I should make some maybe I should go well,
- 31:44Speaker 2: I didn't know. How was that big of a deal.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Dam Let's do this one together and we'll call it the.
- 31:49Speaker 1: Twat Twat.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Twat Cream. If mine was cream, the example that I
- 31:56Speaker 2: had gotten was a cream.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Do you think that? Okay? We also have to talk
- 32:00Speaker 1: a little bit more about jen Aden, even though I
- 32:03Speaker 1: liked her normally, but this this reunion was rough for
- 32:07Speaker 1: me when she goes over and beyond about how happy
- 32:11Speaker 1: she is in her marriage and how she's blaming Margaret
- 32:15Speaker 1: for her daughter wanting to be a love therapist not
- 32:18Speaker 1: a Broadway star.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Stop. I can't with the blaming. Nobody in Jersey takes
- 32:25Speaker 2: accountability It's just mind blowing to me.
- 32:30Speaker 1: You hear this on a reality like if this was
- 32:33Speaker 1: solely because she saw on a TikTok that this is
- 32:35Speaker 1: what it happened between her parents' relationship and it hurt her.
- 32:39Speaker 3: All that I completely understand.
- 32:43Speaker 1: But her going through and saying she wants to be
- 32:50Speaker 1: a love therapist, I don't have I don't think it
- 32:52Speaker 1: has anything to do with Marge.
- 32:55Speaker 2: No, it has nothing to do with Marge.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Stop it.
- 32:57Speaker 2: You put yourself on a reality show. If your reality
- 33:00Speaker 2: is your husband is cheating on you, you better damn
- 33:02Speaker 2: well believe.
- 33:03Speaker 1: That's going to be brought up. Yeah, but do you
- 33:06Speaker 1: think that Rachel was blaming on that same token? Do
- 33:10Speaker 1: you think that Rachel was blaming uh Louis No.
- 33:16Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think it's probably true. I
- 33:19Speaker 2: think they probably in the way, her husband went ballistic, Adam,
- 33:23Speaker 2: he had proof that this guy is digging up dirt
- 33:26Speaker 2: on everybody and contacting people, and now Barbaret's businesses were
- 33:31Speaker 2: contacted like this, her her child was contacted like he
- 33:36Speaker 2: even said multiple times, I have dirt on all of you.
- 33:41Speaker 1: I also don't necessarily understand this last portion. I know
- 33:45Speaker 1: we're like it's because it was this there's so this
- 33:47Speaker 1: is a hard episode to recap because it was the
- 33:50Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over again. But when
- 33:53Speaker 1: it comes to Lisa and Joe and Teresa and Louie,
- 34:01Speaker 1: why Louie felt the need to only speak to Joe,
- 34:07Speaker 1: Like was he so close with Joe he was really
- 34:11Speaker 1: concerned that Melissa was cheating on him? And my knowledge
- 34:15Speaker 1: of men in the past, if you're really close to
- 34:18Speaker 1: a man, probably not going to have like you bring
- 34:25Speaker 1: your wife into the conversation.
- 34:26Speaker 4: No.
- 34:27Speaker 2: I couldn't even imagine Eddie or Edwin getting involved in
- 34:30Speaker 2: that situation. It's so stupid.
- 34:32Speaker 3: It was just like, could you imagine if.
- 34:37Speaker 1: I heard a rumor that you cheated?
- 34:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell Edwin and Edwin behind my back, doesn't
- 34:44Speaker 2: tells Eddie Sadie.
- 34:48Speaker 3: It's bananas, right right?
- 34:51Speaker 2: I mean in this situation, Eddie would be like, I
- 34:54Speaker 2: am not getting involved in this ship.
- 34:57Speaker 1: I am not. The way to add actually handle it
- 35:00Speaker 1: if this were to go down would be I would
- 35:03Speaker 1: call you, Hey, we heard this information.
- 35:07Speaker 3: I'm giving you a heads up. If it's true, you
- 35:09Speaker 3: need to come clean to Eddie.
- 35:11Speaker 1: If it's not true, this is what's going around and
- 35:16Speaker 1: go from there.
- 35:17Speaker 2: It's a hard situation to be in. I don't know
- 35:19Speaker 2: that I get involved. We have a friend. If you
- 35:21Speaker 2: had a friend that's cheating on their wife or husband
- 35:24Speaker 2: or whatever, to put yourself in the middle is going
- 35:27Speaker 2: to be a disaster, a huge disaster. So I think
- 35:32Speaker 2: that he knew that. They knew that, and they wanted
- 35:36Speaker 2: to do it off camera so they didn't look the
- 35:38Speaker 2: bad people. And then they had jen Aiden go out
- 35:40Speaker 2: and spill it.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Why do you think that jen Aiden was so upset? Like,
- 35:46Speaker 1: am I just having revisionish history? But like, was jen
- 35:49Speaker 1: Aiden close with Teresa before.
- 35:52Speaker 2: Jen Aiden close? I think they from what I've seen. Yeah.
- 35:58Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I thought was hilarious
- 36:00Speaker 1: was when Jackie they panned to the arsenal and they're
- 36:03Speaker 1: like grilling people about what arsenal it's mean, and no
- 36:06Speaker 1: one really knows the actual definition. But then they say,
- 36:11Speaker 1: then Jackie says, yeah, I did say she would be
- 36:15Speaker 1: not an enemy that I would want because she's like
- 36:17Speaker 1: a true opponent, like or whatever it was.
- 36:20Speaker 2: And then I think most people would see that about
- 36:23Speaker 2: me too.
- 36:24Speaker 1: I think people would say that about anybody that's outspoken, right,
- 36:28Speaker 1: but then Teresa goes, oh, yeah, I only said it
- 36:33Speaker 1: because Jackie said it. You weren't there when Jackie said it.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Jackie said it to Dolores.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Her lies, I mean, the lies are just intense.
- 36:44Speaker 3: You think she knows that there lies or she's just delusional.
- 36:48Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 36:50Speaker 3: You.
- 36:50Speaker 2: I would hope that somebody knows when they're lying.
- 36:53Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I think she twists
- 36:57Speaker 1: things in.
- 36:57Speaker 2: Her own head and then she believes them.
- 37:02Speaker 1: But do you think she is twisting them on her
- 37:06Speaker 1: own or do you think it's because at one point
- 37:09Speaker 1: they say, well, and where it gets really sad is
- 37:12Speaker 1: when it's like you're pathetic. You're pathetic. You're pathetic.
- 37:15Speaker 2: Oh, I know, And I mean the whole conversation was pathetic.
- 37:18Speaker 2: I think that they're very calculated. I think that, you know,
- 37:21Speaker 2: the whole I saw it firsthand with the suddenly she
- 37:25Speaker 2: grabs her phone after that Marge conversation about her child
- 37:28Speaker 2: being called, and they're trying to make it sound like
- 37:32Speaker 2: it was a fake call, and they're trying to manipulate
- 37:35Speaker 2: and switch this. I mean, that's some serious shit right there.
- 37:40Speaker 2: Serious manipulation right there. And then fact phone to start calling.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Oh look Andy, look it's like, oh, you lost me
- 37:48Speaker 2: right there. That was so fake.
- 37:50Speaker 1: It was fake. But we're out of time for today.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Tam in New York finally going you guys, so you
- 37:58Speaker 1: know we will be having a special guest to co
- 38:01Speaker 1: host Orange County with me, but Tamra, because I'm not
- 38:05Speaker 1: gonna be talking to you until next week. Remember, we're
- 38:08Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about watch What Happens Live. We're
- 38:10Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about all those things next week.
- 38:14Speaker 1: So when we talked Monday to recap Atlanta, be ready
- 38:19Speaker 1: with additional good stories for us. I will, okay I
- 38:24Speaker 1: miss yet, send me what you decided to wear and
- 38:26Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live?
- 38:27Speaker 2: Okay, I will.
- 38:29Speaker 1: I