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NFL Week 12 MNF Showdown | Ravens @ Chargers | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all system's going clear to the LEFTO. What's all run?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Monday night football Showdown. Show here on
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  Speaker 1: the Ship at Nation YouTube station. Got title here, got
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  Speaker 1: hoop You're gonna break it all down as usual, talk
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  Speaker 1: through grand scheme, overview, captain ownership, how we're handling the
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  Speaker 1: captain position, take it position by position, from their roster, construction,
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  Speaker 1: build outs, all that and more Hoopster I'll bring you
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  Speaker 1: in first. Been a pretty good week for the ship
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  Speaker 1: Nation crew and all the members. Last night even in showdown,
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  Speaker 1: three shippers up top for thirteen k plus. Just a
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  Speaker 1: huge week across the board. What's going on, man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Solid week. I mean the tweets out there with
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  Speaker 2: all the success that the members had, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: one of the most rewarding things to see when you're
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  Speaker 2: in this sort of industry. I mean, obviously you want
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  Speaker 2: your personal successes along the way, but when you see,
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  Speaker 2: you know, members of this community continue to have really
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  Speaker 2: big weeks and in some cases really really big weeks
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  Speaker 2: as you can see in that tweet, it's cool and
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  Speaker 2: it's fun and it makes it all worth it and
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  Speaker 2: congratulations all the winners, and let's not stop the winning yet.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we got a game here tonight and then
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  Speaker 2: right into the Thanksgiving slate, which is very exciting, you know,
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  Speaker 2: despite the shitty contest layout, which I agree with your
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  Speaker 2: tweet from Draftings just you know, makes very little sense
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  Speaker 2: to me. But again, the contests are big tonight and
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday, and it's going to be a fun week.
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  Speaker 2: Got a standalone game on Friday, which we'll have a
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  Speaker 2: show too, in full content.
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  Speaker 3: So it's an exciting stretch of football here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the early show, like you just talked about storry
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  Speaker 1: title before I bring in just quick quick stuff. The
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday show is going to be one pm Eastern, same
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  Speaker 1: crew here, you don't expect. It's gonna be the three
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  Speaker 1: of us breaking down the three Gamer. The coverage over
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  Speaker 1: at ship in Nation will be on the three Gamer.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have featured coverage for the Thursday night game that
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be on that Thanksgiving slate, and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll have the Friday, the Black Friday game I think
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  Speaker 1: they're calling it, that's going to have coverage as well.
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  Speaker 1: So everything you don't expect. Twenty dollars buying today title
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  Speaker 1: five hundred k up top. What's going on by Man?
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  Speaker 1: Week twelve? Still here if great week, keep it rolling.
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  Speaker 1: Not the best week. We got tonight to fix that.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on man?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a huge week for the nation. Love going in
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  Speaker 4: Discord and seeing all the screen shots. I mean NBA
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  Speaker 4: shout out to Rio and the team ham BJ always
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  Speaker 4: grinding there see plenty there answer got a big one,
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  Speaker 4: always grinding the Sean Sullivan one earlier. College football stays
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  Speaker 4: on fire. I mean, it's such a good time over
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  Speaker 4: here at Chippin' Nation. But yeah, five hundred k up top.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely no one will complain about that. Good real life game.
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  Speaker 4: FFTY one total two and a half point Favorites are
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  Speaker 4: the Ravens and chalk Or. It's very concentrated at Captain,
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  Speaker 4: which with a couple guys as you'd expect when it's
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  Speaker 4: a Lamar Derrick Henry slates, and then only really a
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  Speaker 4: couple guys on the Chargers that are pretty appealing.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a solid show showtown game.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, we'll talk more when we get into
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  Speaker 1: the show. How I'm gonna go broke on this slate,
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  Speaker 1: But that's perfect. I'm definitely taking a huge stand. But
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Sean not only calling a shot adding
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  Speaker 1: a full zero. He shipped fifty k last week, had
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  Speaker 1: a nice little giveaway for everybody yesterday, so again thank
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  Speaker 1: you to Sean. Hooked a couple of members up with
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  Speaker 1: eighty five bucks the package there, so congrats again to Sean,
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  Speaker 1: but now calling a shot for that. And this is
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  Speaker 1: need's what we're all hoping for. Everyone's had some bad
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  Speaker 1: runouts this season at times. Maybe we can get it rolling.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good question though, something I always debate.
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  Speaker 1: I would think, you know, play this towards what your
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  Speaker 1: game and style is. I think you should always sort
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  Speaker 1: of have a feel for what that is. If you
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  Speaker 1: like a smaller slate, remember it's staggered, so there's like
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  Speaker 1: late swap. I mean, you're always gonna be up against
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  Speaker 1: the best in the world with multiple seats and all that.
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  Speaker 1: But I really would focus on what you feel best
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  Speaker 1: is about your game. Hoop ono. Did you have a
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  Speaker 1: thought on this one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, think about what sort of slate and
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  Speaker 2: number of games you feel most comfortable with. We let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about it, like on the PGA stuff too. Like
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  Speaker 2: with the PGA Showdown. Some people are just better at
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  Speaker 2: PGA Showdown. I think you and I have had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of success PGA Showdown, sometimes more than on the
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  Speaker 2: main slate, And we've had these conversations like, find the
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  Speaker 2: game the style play that fits your process the best,
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  Speaker 2: and if it's a smaller slate, like yeah, fire away.
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  Speaker 2: If it's the main slate, save it for the main slate.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever you feel most comfortable with. But I
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  Speaker 2: guess you know, congratulations on the seat and hopefully turn
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  Speaker 2: that into some life changing money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and think about that too. I like that part
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  Speaker 1: you just ad or what did you win the seat in? Right?
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  Speaker 1: If you want it in Showdown on a single game,
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  Speaker 1: yeah it's different. Maybe you can't apply as much from
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  Speaker 1: slate in a you know, a field that same similar
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  Speaker 1: size or something, play it like you just played it
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  Speaker 1: and hope that the the run goes in your way again. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you have that good runout and you get the top
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  Speaker 1: of that one for a million bucks, So certainly appreciate
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  Speaker 1: that hoop. I'll get your grand scheme over you in
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  Speaker 1: a sec. But just real quick title mentioned this title,
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  Speaker 1: did you look at the upcoming schedule, the two teams
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  Speaker 1: play a night, good real life game. We're getting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them. The Ravens got a bunch of these
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  Speaker 1: Island and two game slates coming up. There's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of two games slates this month too, So if you're
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  Speaker 1: not watching or didn't plan on watching, tune in with
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  Speaker 1: us on Wednesday breaking down the three gamer that's staggered
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  Speaker 1: because you'll be able to use that in the future.
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  Speaker 1: But the Chargers are three of the next eleven slates.
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  Speaker 1: I think that we played for Showdown, they got flexed
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  Speaker 1: into another one. So a lot to take away this
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  Speaker 1: is round one, But just wondered if you saw anything
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  Speaker 1: on that. And to the Harball Bowl, right, we're getting
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  Speaker 1: version two, not the super Bowl and forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 1: but the Harbaugh coaches going back and forth tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, two defensive mind coaches and a big boy total.
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  Speaker 4: So that's pretty interesting. But I don't hate Chargers primetime
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  Speaker 4: games really because Herbert's been bawling and there's plenty of
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  Speaker 4: different ways you can kind of go with this team. So,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we just saw it last week with Disleey
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  Speaker 4: kind of low own mid tier captain lad got heard
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  Speaker 4: he came back like they're moving the ball. Herbert's looking good.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll sign up for some more Chargers prime time games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like that And the one they
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  Speaker 1: flexed out was good. Hoop your boy. Danny's in here said,
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  Speaker 1: it's coming down to my Vikings and your Lions. See
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  Speaker 1: you at us Bank Stadium for the NFC Championship game, Buddy,
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  Speaker 1: Is that a deal?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? This has been going back and forth since week one,
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  Speaker 2: and man, like, I feel good about my Lions being there,
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  Speaker 2: but the Vikings, I don't know. Man, they struggle with
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  Speaker 2: the Bears yesterday, like they're kind of trending in the
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  Speaker 2: wrong direction in my eyes. But hopefully, hopefully it happens
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  Speaker 2: because it's kind of been an ongoing thing and if
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  Speaker 2: it is the NFC Championship, you're gonna be coming. You'll
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  Speaker 2: be coming my way, so we'll definitely we'll definitely get connected.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, there's no doubt I'll be at that game.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully it happens, we'll meet up and we'll be
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  Speaker 2: at the game together for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna bring up the stone and I'll get
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  Speaker 1: your grand scheme over. You just wanted to point this
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  Speaker 1: all updated and ready to go. Man, Big Boy Totals.
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  Speaker 1: I like what title said there. That's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Two defensive minded, sort of you know, run the ball
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  Speaker 1: type of coaches in some cases special teams, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: Big Boy Total, what's your thoughts? On this game early
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  Speaker 1: first looking, I.
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  Speaker 2: Always got a shout out our guy, Derek the teacher,
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  Speaker 2: so parent teacher conferences today, so no kids the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the day, so he doesn't even have to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: So as always appreciate, appreciate your worked and enjoy the
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  Speaker 4: Up.
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  Speaker 2: Hey read the last sentence and yeah, well that's that's
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  Speaker 2: secondary first ever shift last night too, So I congraduates there.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out Derek. That's awesome. And to get to nice
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  Speaker 1: it's like another little ship for today. No kids there
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  Speaker 1: you go, good to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, double shit, back to back. So the one thing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, five weeks ago, if we said we have
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers on tonight and the Chargers on a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of primetime games, we had been like, ah, shit, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be boring because they weren't really doing they
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  Speaker 2: weren't pushing it offensively. It was all like run it out,
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  Speaker 2: run out the clock, like make it nasty. Well something
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  Speaker 2: shift obviously, and they're shifted in their play calling the
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  Speaker 2: last few weeks because they've been moving the ball and
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  Speaker 2: throwing it more and Herbert's had some you know, pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid fantasy games as well. I mean early on in
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  Speaker 2: the season you look at it ten thirteen, nine, eleven, thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: and then fantasy performances of seventeen twenty four, nineteen, nineteen
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  Speaker 2: twenty five, So it's like halfway through the season. They
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  Speaker 2: obviously they have shifted something and gone a little more
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  Speaker 2: pass heavy, which makes the games more appealing. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to beat the Ravens, as you can see
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  Speaker 2: here on the stone off against the pass defense and
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  Speaker 2: at a against the run defense, you want to pass
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  Speaker 2: the ball, So you know, the one the difficult part
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  Speaker 2: about the slate is the captain, Like who you play
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  Speaker 2: at the captain position? Yes, if you just run it,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of Lamar Jackson. You've got
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  Speaker 2: the dry run here. I guess that's a really good
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  Speaker 2: segue into that. The drive run has sixty eight was
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  Speaker 2: at eighty four, So eighty four four and I.
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  Speaker 1: Checked it twice, Man Mount Santa Claus, I'm checking my list.
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  Speaker 1: I turned it off, ran everything.
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  Speaker 3: That's just it.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anything crazy in flex? If you click on flex?
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  Speaker 2: Is there some random bum that's like all the way
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  Speaker 2: Herbert Jalen twenty two but not no. Yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 2: like super super crazy, so nothing like wild. But we're
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  Speaker 2: getting a two hundred dollars guy that's projected for two
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  Speaker 2: fantasy points at like eighty percent. So yeah, if you
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  Speaker 2: just run it, it's going to be Lamar Jackson. Now, like,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't want to play Lamar off top, like,
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  Speaker 2: what do you do? You know the problem? I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's a problem, but if you want to
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  Speaker 2: go with like Herbert and the Chargers passing game, he's
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  Speaker 2: probabed so closely to Lamar Jackson where he's just got
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  Speaker 2: to beat him straight up, Like he's got to beat
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  Speaker 2: him straight up, And is it possible? Yeah, sure, But
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  Speaker 2: I mean more times than not, you're gonna be putting
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  Speaker 2: your money on Lamar Jackson over Herbert. There's only a
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  Speaker 2: six hundred dollars difference. He's gonna have to beat him
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  Speaker 2: just straight up in raw Fantasy points Tonight, Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 2: ten eight. I mean, that's that's a big price take.
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  Speaker 2: So where I'm struggling tonight is at the captain position,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'm the show will definitely go a
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  Speaker 2: long way in terms of what I do at the captain,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest at this point, I'm struggling. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want the running backs I know for sure from
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers kind of you know, with Gus Edwards back,
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  Speaker 2: they're mixing more of these guys in. JK. Dobbins doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have like the workhorse sort of role that we saw
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  Speaker 2: early on in the season. The pass catchers for the
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  Speaker 2: Chargers outside of Mconkie the donkey, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: hit or miss, and he's.
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  Speaker 3: All the way up at nine K and J. Flowers.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm struggling in terms of what I want to
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  Speaker 2: do at the captain position, and we'll talk through it.
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  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson clearly it looks like the best option up top.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be the most popular. We're showing twenty
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  Speaker 2: six percent ownership. So kind of curious what you guys
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  Speaker 2: think at the captain and it's definitely gonna dictate probably
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  Speaker 2: what I do today as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let title hop in here. First title, just
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  Speaker 1: quick quick thoughts on how you sort of see the
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  Speaker 1: game playing out. I guess if you had to just
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  Speaker 1: pick away, you'll start there. Obviously, you can build your
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  Speaker 1: lineups and sets accordingly. Et cetera, and then just take
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  Speaker 1: us into your thoughts at the captain as well.
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  Speaker 4: I think both teams move the ball. No, Roquan Smith
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  Speaker 4: is pretty big on the raven side. That definitely has
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  Speaker 4: a boost for the Chargers. I mean, obviously, I bet
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  Speaker 4: Hoop five hundred bucks that the Ravens would outlast the Lions.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're a really good football team, Avery, brod No,
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's not like I knew. I wasn't giving
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  Speaker 4: you getting myself the best odds. It just its wise.
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  Speaker 4: I think Ravens are better because the NFC. You said,
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  Speaker 4: why the NFC.
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  Speaker 3: That's a tough statement to make at this point in
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I test Ravens look better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, Bro, Come on, you don't mean that.
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  Speaker 5: I truly mean Lions.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even as a Ravens.
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  Speaker 5: Fan, they played some really bad teams have the Lions?
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  Speaker 3: I mean they just went to Houston beat that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they I mean what Houston just do yesterday
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  Speaker 2: lost Tennessee. Yeah? I agree, But like, who dude to
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  Speaker 2: say say that anyone in the NFL right now looks
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  Speaker 2: better than the Lions is just a bad statement to make.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think Ravens look better, but I'll keep
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  Speaker 4: it moving. I'll take I'll take the quarterback. I'll take
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  Speaker 4: the running back. Not im and Ra but uh, I
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  Speaker 4: mean your boy laport it too.
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  Speaker 3: He is cheeks.
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  Speaker 4: So Andrews ain't great either, but let's keep it calling
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  Speaker 4: Ravens side or this game, I think they moved the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Lamar is up there.
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  Speaker 4: The thing with Lamar and Herbert which is interesting is
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  Speaker 4: Herbert has been running the ball lately, which is big.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the.
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  Speaker 4: Rushing prop forty two and a half for Lamar, twenty
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  Speaker 4: and a half for Herbert, so that's not a crazy difference.
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  Speaker 4: Lamar's a touchdown prop. Obviously, this is on the ground
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  Speaker 4: or receiving plus two twenty. Herbert's is plus three eighty.
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  Speaker 4: I usually expect higher from Lamar. A lot of that
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  Speaker 4: is because Derrick Henry's minus two twenty this year. They're
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  Speaker 4: just willing to give it to him on the goal
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  Speaker 4: line and it's not as many read options and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So I have Herbert projected a lot closer than Lamar
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  Speaker 4: than I thought I would.
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  Speaker 5: I am within about two Lamar. We have right now
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  Speaker 5: like three and a half four.
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  Speaker 4: And he's gonna be we look at Captain ownership twenty
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  Speaker 4: six percent and we have Herbert at sixteen or fifteen percent.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even be surprised if Lamar gets to like
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  Speaker 4: the thirty ish range and Herbert gets down to like
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  Speaker 4: the eleven or twelve range.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna play some Herbert.
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  Speaker 4: He can spread it around, he can use his legs
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, and he's a fraction of the ownership,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm definitely going there. I am playing Lamar. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he obviously could break any slate with his legs. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to keep it, I think relatively condensed. It's for
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  Speaker 4: sure Lamar Herbert. I'm with Hoop. I'm not playing any
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  Speaker 4: of JK. Dobbins or Gus Edwards or anything there. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to say Flowers wide receiver one on Baltimore side,
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  Speaker 4: and then I'm just playing Lamar Henry Flowers captain.
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  Speaker 5: I'll play a little more on Chargers.
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  Speaker 4: I like Herbert I talked about, and then I think
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  Speaker 4: it's Lad Disley for me, and that might be it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm debating Quentin Johnston a little bit because it's a
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  Speaker 4: fair price sig and when we get to like position
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  Speaker 4: by position, there is not a lot of value on
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  Speaker 4: this play, like Jalen Rager, as he showed at twenty
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  Speaker 4: two percent, he's eight hundred dollars, one of the better
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  Speaker 4: values down there, and he very well could go out
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: and get you a zero. So that's why I do
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: think I'm going to play some Disley, some Quentin Johnston.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: But the problem is, man, I don't love Andrew's likely Bateman,
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: I guess is fine, but one of these guys up topskin.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: I think gonna put up a big boy the value.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Though we saw Covey the worst play ever yesterday. I'm
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: sorry Rio and made our members get there. It was
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: one of the few showdown I think maybe once all year.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: It's happened more in the past. It could be a
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: slate like that as well, but I never try and
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: play for it like that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough to see how it goes. I mean,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: it's all gonna be what you decide. The game is.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: If you guys can give us your final score in
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: the chat. I see some people already throwing it in there.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get that early on. I already had
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: the consensus, and it's most certainly coming true exactly what
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I expected to see. All big boys scores, and the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: product of last night is I think the product of
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: those two teams, right, we know what it was. There's
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: three big dogs with no Devant de Smith. It was
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Barkley AJ Brown hurts the other side all season, even
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: if you exclude Matt Stafford has been Kyron Williams, cup Nikua.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see these options like those options, and
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I also think they can spread it out a lot more,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: which is why I liked your Herbert call. I am
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: definitely telling you my captain thoughts right out of the gate,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: and I love this slate. I am going one hundred
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: percent fade Lamar. It's five hundred kf top, it's twenty dollars.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: It's fine. He's definitely the best captain. So I'm I'm
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: willing to go broke on this, but I have I
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: always have reasons for it, and I have multi things
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: that I think are leaning in my favor. I don't
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: have an overwhelming sense of wanting to build for a
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: big back and forth over game. I actually think I
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: love titles take right off the top, just to mention
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that was already how I'm thinking. The chats all on
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the opposite side I think these two guys are gonna
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: just hammer each other on the ground and make this
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: a big, heavy ground and pound. It may still get
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the forty five forty eight. It's you know, the numbers
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: are set for a reason. I just have this. That's
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: my thought about it. And if I if I already
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: feel that way, and it could happen, and I think
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: they have the options to make it happen. The chat
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: already talked about it. I don't care about the revenge
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: narrative of Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins, but won't surprise
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: me to see those guys being in the mix. And
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: when I fade Lamar, it's automatic, Henry, it's automatic. Herbert,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it's I don't know exact what's what's lad McConkie's health
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: right now, but I think they expect him to play, right,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Think he's gonna play. I mean, he's officially questionable, but
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: it looks like he's in.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's in. So yeah, that's what I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, Thank you, So mconkie Johnston and then
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: it's Zay and then I'll take a sprinkle of the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: tight ends. But I can take that sprinkle because I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: don't have Lamar at any ownership in captain. I will
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: have him in the flex everywhere because he's gonna have
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: a good game. It's does he have a game that
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: breaks it? And I got it right last night I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: had I was way underweight. It was in the slate
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: plan on Hurtz didn't didn't Really, it's it's the same
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. If you can get that floor outcome,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it's gonna be. They're gonna make
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it happen through other guys. They're gonna want to ground
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and pound it. So it's multiple reasons. I never like
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the super popular quarterback up in the top with these
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: expensive ones. Also, I will say, hoop, I'll kick it
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: back to you. Now I'm rambling. But the thing about
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: last night versus this night too is not only do
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: we know how condensed it would be on both sides,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: but Hurts wasn't getting the steam everyone thought he was.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Like Hurts was going to be somewhat popular, but not
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: as popular when you had aj Brown, Barkley, you really
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: did have Nikua Cuff other choices that could go off top.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's the same tonight. I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: see anyway where Lamar is not pushing thirty.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be massive ownership. Yeah, there's just not
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the I mean there was last night. On the other side,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you had Nikia, you had Cooper Cup, Kyron Williams and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: even Matthew Stafford who people were interested in playing a captain,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And then you had guys on the same side you
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: go outside of Lamar Jackson. That's why I opened it,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: where like this is, you know, not.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: A first look.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I've looked a little bit, but like first time actually
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: digging into it, and you can poke holes in anything
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: outside of Lamar Jackson. So everyone's gonna want to go
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: just Lamar Jackson up top. They're gonna play him at
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a very very high rate. I think you could be
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: even higher. So we're showing what we have, like twenty five.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it's probably more into
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: the thirty.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Range, because again, I just I said it like if
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you're playing Herbert, he's gotta beat Lamar, and you got
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to say in your head, like Herbert can beat Lamar Derreck,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Henry's gotta beat Lamar Jackson. Just in terms of raw
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: fantasy points, there's no distance in salary there where they
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: could like kind of underperform and still beat be there.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people are gonna look at that
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: when they're building their team, and it's going to be
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: a very Lamar heavy approach. And in regards to our
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: guy seat sites, however he pronounce it, Derek Henry to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Saquan tonight, hold my beer, I.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't go that far.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Like, can say, can Henry be the Wedner tonight? Yeah? Absolutely,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: can Henry go off? Absolutely What Saquon did last night
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: was beyond impressive. I don't think he's I don't think
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it's a hold my beer scenario.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I'll say that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree there either. I think the other thing,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: because you do such a good job pointing this out
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: with these dry runs, is I always you know, I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: didn't even think of that step right away. But you're like,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: now go to the flex and the key component to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that strategy and that part of your process is how
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: easy is it?
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Like Lamar, you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Feel comfortable, you don't have any punts. Reagan at twenty percent,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: eighty percent, he's in eighty four percent, and only twenty
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of your overall portfolio twenty two has Rigers so like
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get lineups with Lamar, you feel more than comfortable.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So again analogy before I go, you know, back to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: hoop here. But I know I'm playing with fire the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: money that I'm putting in, and you should know your
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: own bankroll management and all this stuff that you're doing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I can afford to take a little burn and put
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a band aid on it and get wrapped up and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: go into the next like I'm doing this on my
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: own account what I'm doing, and I'm comfortable with it
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for other reasons than just to fade them. I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: if it goes under which I'm calling here what I'm thinking,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that it gives me the ability to get some even
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: more balanced rosters. And I think title it was a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: couple slates ago you brought up a really good point
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: with the balanced rosters, were like, how does a Mark Andrews.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I think it was you and I were compared. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: didn't like one tight end as much as you did
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: fer the Schultz maybe yeah, And it made me think
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: even further with my own process of that idea where
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it's like this, how does Disley get up there tonight? Well?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Pretty simple, it's a lower scoring game. He gets you,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you know, six catches and a touchdown or whatever that
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: might be, and you need Lamar, Henry, Herbert, whatever else
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that might look like. That would be a way. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I can see that happening. I'm gonna put my money
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and if it gets burnt in the fire, I am
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: putting more money behind me to be able to go
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: into the next building and see if I can make
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: it through that one. But I'm not playing with money.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I can't afford to lose assention, is what I'm saying.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You should be cognizant of that in your lineups as well.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, I mean the one thing, yeah, with
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: like the Disley, I think a lot of people think
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: if they're playing a captain like that, captain has to
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: be like the highest scoring guy on the slate.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And that's just simply, you know, not the case.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Like there's the way Disley works where he doesn't absolutely
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: go off is if he scores like eighteen Fantasy points tonight,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and you need you need Herbert, you need Henry, and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you need like Lamar Jackson in the flex. All those
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: guys get between twenty and twenty five, and you just
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: need all those guys in the flex that's how it
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: can can play out with.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: The mid range or cheaper, cheaper captains.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You know. The one thing about this dry run as well,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: not only do we not have a ton of like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: super cheap flex guys that don't make sense, we are
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: getting the best plays on the slate with Lamar a captain.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting Herbert at eighty seven percent and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: we're getting Derrick Henry at fifty seven. So it just
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: goes to show you how easy it is to build tonight.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You know, Lamar Jackson is going to be very, very popular,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and it's a good slight to leave big chunks, as
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: far as it looks right now, big a good slightly
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: big chunks of salary on the table, because when you're
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: able to build Lamar captain teams with this much ease,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know there's going to be a lot of duplications,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: So be willing to do some awkward things and leave
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of sailor at the table.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one question, did you have anything more on Captain
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: at all? Hooper? You're you're good. I know title sort
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of ran through and I'll come back to them just
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: for final thoughts there, but do you have anything else
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: on that? Because you just made me think of something
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: else here I want to show.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I think I think you go. My initial lead right
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: now is you go one of two ways with the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Lamar stuff. You either just go way overweight and by
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: way over weight, I don't mean like thirty thirty three percent.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm saying like probably like fifty percent go. So you're
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: making a stand up there, like I'm going to have
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: more of Lamar Jackson teams than almost anyone in the field,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: or you just don't play it like you're talking about doing.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think playing Lamar with the field makes much
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: sense because no matter how you shake it, you're just
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: going to have very similar teams to everyone else if
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: you just kind of hang around that you know, twenty
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: five to thirty percent range. So that's my initial read,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you know, justin Herbert, I think makes sense. You know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Derreck Henry for sure, Zay Flowers, McConkie. I don't know
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: how much of the cheaper title or cheaper captains I'll
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: really have. It's hard to make a case for many.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I wanted to make the case for Mark Andrews, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think get there. It would probably just be
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: maybe a guy like Disley. But again, well, you know
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I'd start building most of my teams right after the show,
• 23:40
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• 23:44
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  Speaker 1: So one thing I saw there title, I'll kick it
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: over to you for this and you can give your
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: captain final thoughts. But Tucker Fisk and Stone Smart the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: two hundred dollars back end tight ups back back up,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: tight end. Sorry, let me get this right, are popping
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: up and it's like still splitting them. It's obviously not
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: putting them together, I don't think. But it's saying like
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: seventeen percent of FISC based on projection and then Stone
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Smart five percent, So that's twenty percent of the lineups
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that are popping with those guys. Any any quick thoughts
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on that, and you can give your final Captain thoughts.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: That shows how bad value is.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: We just saw a cove with the zero get there like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of studs to pay for. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: last week Fisk ran twenty four percent or hed it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: on the field for twenty four snaps, which is thirty
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: six percent, Smart ten percent. So just naturally I lead
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: into Fisk right there three times as many snaps.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Do I like it?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Now these guys are cardio machines blocking might very well
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: get zero targets.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: So that's when I guess on Captain.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: The more I was thinking and looking at props, Bateman's
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: the one that kind of stands out to me. He
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: has very similar props to Disley, pretty similar to Quentin
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Johnson too. He's two k Lesson Johnson one k Lesson
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Disley unknowned at captain and like, yeah, like I like
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to spend up captains, but I'm gonna play some Disley
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: for sure. And now I think Bateman, so I don't
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: have to play Fisk or Rager or we're gonna get
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: to Justice Hill. Like he looks like one of the
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: better values on the slate so many ways that none
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: of those guys get there and going Bateman. So I
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: guess I'll ask you, guys, is looking at his game
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: love seventeen two weeks ago twenty five obviously good enough?
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Eleven fifteen?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Eleven?
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Is fifteen or seventeen good enough? At captain today?
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: You guys think, I think.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It's possible because how I see the game going.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: But I would say that I would sign out.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah, those scenarios, it's like
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: where what you're fading in those teams is well, first off, obviously,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: if he nukes the slate or you know, absolutely goes off,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that's option one. Option two is he scores the fifteen
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to twenty and then Lamar Jackson, Herbert Henry.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: No one else goes off.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: But they're all around twenty twenty five, and you kind
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of need them in your lineup as well. That's how
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: that's how it all works. And just to add on
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to the conversation because it was a fun show yesterday
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and the dong bong. If you didn't hear the story
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: about the dog bong, go back because I don't want
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to fully rehash it. But I must have been talking
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: super loud at that point of the show and Missus
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Whop heard the whole conversation. I didn't realize she was
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: texting me as she was going on. So number one,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the dongbong is still active. It's at my mother in
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: law's house.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I found out.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Number two. Number two is she has pictures of Hoopster
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: doing the dog bong. She goes, oh, I could release
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: those if you want. I said, no, no, no, no.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I said, we're we're pumping the brakes on that. Those
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: things are not gonna make it on the social media.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So that's the update on me on the dog bob.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if the Ravens get past the Lions Hoop, maybe
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: that picture gets out there.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Ooh, you'll have to you have to go to missus
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Hoop with that one. She might she would probably she
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: would make a deal. She'd definitely cut a deal with
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you because she was willing to. She was willing to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: hop on the office computer here and post some discoord.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Who's on the five hundred bucks plus give the picture on.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That's the scenario we talked about yesterday. I'll double pay
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: or something or trip before I have to do something.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: That was what Title was angling for. If he can
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: get you to slice that in there, maybe you.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Can add in a little two to one or something
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: for No.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Probably I won't do the picture a part, just double
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it up to one K. A couple of quick thoughts
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: there too. I guess the Bateman one is interesting. Title
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Natty said that, and I'll definitely have the room to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: play with with no Lamar, And there's ways that it
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: can happen. Nobody wants him even in flex he's like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen percent. No in flex, he's probably see up
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: top and he could be the guy. But this is
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: another angle I was gonna mention earlier. And I'm a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Ravens homer. I understand Titles protecting his money. The Reliants
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: have looked damn good and the Ravens have looked pretty
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: bad in a few of these spots where I just.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I mean literally, I mean I respect title like so
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: so much like, but that's that's gotta be like one
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of the worst statements he's ever made on at the.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Faith, your guy your guys fightings and the Jaguars and
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: all this ship.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, do we need to should we
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: pull up the Ravens and Ravens schedule and Browns? Yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I mean like they seem like they're beating the Chiefs
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: every week or something.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's arguments to be made. I'm the you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the man in the middle here, I'm a homer.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: To say, I mean to stay based on the eye test,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: That's that's what got me. If you think they're better,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: that's fine. But to say based on the eye test
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: like that that I love.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: What I'm seeing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: When this team gets in the playoffs, I think the
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Ravens are set up for a lot of success.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It's never worked that way recently, but I hope that
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I've had some massive letdowns these last couple of times.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Derrick Hemry edition, I think in December or in January
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: will be huge, like taking a lot off of Lamar.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I think will be will be big.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I do love that call. One hundred percent. Actually, the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: other thing I was gonna say though about you know
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: this game is I also think there is just a
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: chance that one side just shows up, and if it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the Ravens, it could be through others and not just Lamar.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It's a team game, you know, passing around moving it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: That could be the reason why. The other thing is
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: if it is just the pass defense just continues to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: be a letdown or people talked about guys not being
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: available in the secondary where the running game gets going
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: for the Chargers. That keeps the score down, most likely
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: keeps the clock running, and other angles of attack that
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the Chargers could just get there. So it will be
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: interesting to see. But that's my sort of final thoughts there.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I just have no problem and going off of Lamar
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: gives me a lot of options of what I can
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: do up top. I'll have all that up on the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: site later under the slate plan title. Any other final
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: thoughts a captain that you had?
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Nope, that's all I got, all right, man.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Halfway through thirty minutes in let's get too running backs
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: talk to us more. We just talked about Derek Henry.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: You said when he gets to the playoffs, it's not
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: quite de Hember yet, but he's been doing it every
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: month leading up. We looked at his career sample size
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: obviously gets better in November, gets better in December. It's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: been great. I think he's a good spot tonight from
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a leverage perspective, obviously with the Lamar stuff. But talk
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to us about running backs.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Raven side, as always we talked about in
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: every show, it's really game script dependent for them. If
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: they're playing with the lead, it's Derrick Henry all day
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: and they just pounding the football and win it that way.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: If they're trailing or close games or two minut drills,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: anything like that, it's Justice Hill. And I'm not like
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the Keaton Mitchell since he's came back from injury, has
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: hardly been involved, so I'm not worried about that yet.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: But like last week, both Henry and Justice Hill played
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: thirty snaps. They lost that game eighteen to sixteen, a
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: very close game. When they're trailing a little bit, when
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: they need pass catching backs, they will go to Justice Hill.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: If you think Chargers, someone said Chargers by double digits,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I think Justice Hill would be one of the best
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: plays on the slate.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Then if that is the case, because more than.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Likely it won't be Henry out there, it'll be Justice
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Hill get in the garbage time and can clean.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Up that way.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: The thing I don't love about Justice Hill, and I
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: mentioned like two minutes ago, was he is getting ownership.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't even be surprised if that eighteen the flex
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: is like twenty four in the flex.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: And that's because when you compare him to others in
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the range, it's really gross. People aren't gonna want to
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: go Chargers defense. People want to go Justice Hill over
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Raven's defense. Yathay Johnson, who the heck knows about him.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Gus Edwards is fine, Aguilar's fine too. I mean, I
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: still have Justice Hill projected for like four points higher
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: than Aglar stuff like that, So just be careful. And
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I guess I don't even know. I want you guys
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: to discuss like playing Henry and Hill together. Obviously it
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: is possible, but again, because the game scripts they're so
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: gamescript dependents, I don't really know how that would work.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: So I want you guys to mention that other side
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Chargers go ahead, Yeah, yeah, trying it. Like my thing
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: is it probably have to be like a gain Well
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: thing yesterday where he just falls in kind of silly
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: like that, and they're playing from the lead, but he's
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: hardly out there, so it'd have to be a two
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: minute drill.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can't like what you nailed. Is like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: if it's a high scoring game, like again, yes, Justice
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Hill could have just got one of them and then
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: they keep crushing them, so it ends up being that way.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But you'd almost think it would be in a lower
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: scoring game where Henry did enough to be in the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: flex as like a touchdown and some yards on the ground,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and then Hill got involved because they were down, So
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: maybe like a four to two Chargers where they both
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: got I mean, that's interesting, but yeah, I get what
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Sorry, yeah, no, no, it's I'm glad he's
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Like most spots, you can always play two running backs
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: like that rotate and like Swift and ro Seawan Johnson
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: or whatever. This one just feels a little a little harder,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: but you definitely can do it because of the lack
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: of value Chargers side, I know, I don't have much
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: interest and Dobbins, I mean that is a big boy
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: price tag. It leverages off everything, like he's by far
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the lower. He's like the Kien Williams of yesterday. There's
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: so many other better plays. You know what you're getting.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: You're getting a low owned starting running back. He is
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: minus one thirty to score. He's expensive though, he's got to.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Do a lot.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not playing for that game script not saying I'm fading.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I will definitely be underweight. I prefer going Gus Edwards
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: at two point eight k. We need value on the slate,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: a pivot from Justice Hill, and I mean first week
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: back twenty five percent of snaps last week sixteen percent
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: has some goal line equity. He is plus four hundred.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I guess isn't the greatest to score, but we need
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: value on the slate. Four points might be enough from him.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: He'll be on the field to get some touches. So
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I think my favorite running backs if I had to pick,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'd do like Henry and Hill more than
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Gus a little bit. But it's really really tough, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I guess we have Haskins projected for one down there.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I can't completely say no to him.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Six snaps last week five the week before has had
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: some goal line touches though, and we just saw zero
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: on the winner at mid price yesterday. Again different slate,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: but probably not ten teams or less. If you're playing
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: one fifty, he might be my pool again. Zero literally
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: won it yesterday, which is insane as that do with
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: sixteen percent?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whops, who's gonna keep coming at you here?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Obviously he's gotta he's gotta pull out those clear glasses
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: that he puts on after the show title so you
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: can start seeing straight.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I agree with these glasses.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: See yeah, those ones, That's what I'm talking about.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: And these are different. These are my shooting glasses.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Oh it looks the same as your other one.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Likes the safety goggles for the meeting.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: You want my shooting headphones on to There we go,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: let's go.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You take you take the old lady with you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Nah, I got my brother in law. She ain't much
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: of a shooter.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: All right, we're over here, man hoop, give us your thoughts. Man, like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: this is the thing I will say quick, I guess
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: like the Rokwan Smith thing was already brought up, but
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just to bring up our guy Shaloube always want to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: say what's up to him? The the thing I'll say
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: is if you are really I mean title, you're talking
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: through it, and it all makes perfect sense. If you're
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: selling yourself on more of these options, you should be
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: excited about Lamar up top because now you've got tons
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of different ways to get different with him. I have
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: a harder time selling myself outside of the scenarios you
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: mentioned where I feel very good about like my charger
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: stuff and then using Justice Hill on the other side,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: love that that's gonna fit what I'm doing very well.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know how likely I am to get to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: all these other options. But who what's your thoughts in.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Terms of running back position? I mean, it just couldn't
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: be more clear for me, Like I I don't care,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Like Dobbins, what's his ownership twenty we're showing like twenty seven.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I hope, I hope it stays or goes up. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: just can't. I just can't even imagine clicking that today.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Like at ten K, I think it's the easiest fade
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: of the sleigh, and I already know without going in
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and building my teams, I'm gonna have zero JK. Dobbins,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and I feel great about it. Like at ten K,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: still getting probably close to like thirty percent ownership, Like
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: he's got to be. He's so he's probably so close
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: to those other guys. He's got to beat Lamar Jackson,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, Justin, Herbert Zay Flowers. He's got to beat
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: probably three of those dudes to be the guy you need.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't think he's doing it so clarified.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Not to cut you off, but are you talking flex
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: now or are you still talking captains?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I will not be. I will not be
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: playing him in FLEX. I think it's the thing. It's
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: just a very easy fade on the slate. I get
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: like the leverage thing for sure. For me, like nothing
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: lines up to JK. Dobbins being a solid play. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I'd be willing to put a lot of money on
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the fact, the fact that he is not optimal tonight I.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Could not have.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, now he's scoring three touchdowns for sure. I
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: just feel so good that he is not the guy today.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I'll be axing him out love Henry huh revenge game?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Come on?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say one thing quick. Lamar's rushing prop
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: forty five and a half. Dobbins is forty six and
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: a half.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: That's Dobbins rushing prop is for I mean, how can
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: you click the name and it's favored on the under
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: He's got to be one of the worst plays of
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: this show those like a reasonably priced guy, not like
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a shit or dude. He has to be one of
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the worst showdown plays.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Of all time.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: And what percent would you play them?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You'd have to be like ten or twelve percent or
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: something fifteen maybe yeah, maybe fifteen, but like, yo, yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: it's coming for sure, it's coming, Like this is a
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: bold thing. Yeah, there's definitely a clip MBS two point zero. Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: get it, get it fired up, get it ready to go. JK.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Dobbins the worst Showdown play of the year at time
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: K against the Ravens, and I feel very good about that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: The best part is you're right like ninety percent of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the time on these they only remember this is like
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the recency bias. They're all gonna tak MBS clip and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Dobbins is gonna get like three fantasy points tonight and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be right as usual and they're gonna be like, oh,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: that didn't work out for me either, and there you go.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely, yeah, get a little sprinkle if you
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: were faded, maybe maybe get a little sprinkle in there
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: for sure. I just I feel very good about that one.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: The Justice Hill thing. I think you can play them
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: together because with Justice Hill, we've seen him just get
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: all these fantasy points in a like it'll be like
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a two minute warning and it's like three receptions for
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: like forty yards. He'll get some other stuff throughout the game,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: like it is a slave where at three point two
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: K ten could definitely be enough. So I'm good with
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Justice Hill, and you know, how I play him is
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: not going to be correlated with Derrick Henry at all.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with both of them in there.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Now. If you're doing what I'm doing and fully fading JK. Dobbins,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you gotta have some Gus Edwards in there for sure,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and I will be playing Gus Edwards. I'll be over
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the field on Gus Edwards at twenty eight hundred, I mean,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: he is essentially one fourth the price of JK. Dobbins,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and I'll be in on that, not messing with the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: other guys. But Henry absolutely zero. JK. Dobbins worst play
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: of the showdown season Justice Hill and then Edwards.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I'm good with both of those guys.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You said one fourth the price. I'm wondering this. What
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: do you think the size is double the side? Do
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you think, Guz the bus is double The size of JK.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Dobbins has got to be. I wish I could see it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I can't find the big how big this dude is?
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: But he could just bust in for a couple of touchdowns,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a little goal line shots, anything like that. I don't know.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the Gus call there quite a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: bit actually in the price even better, so shoutut guard
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: guy sheets team Faye. Jkd with with hoop will pick
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you up and go to the kitchen.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a rough one, I'll be. It'll be
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: a close the laptop, go to bed and don't read
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the comments. Sort tonight. If he scores two touchdowns, yeah,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I won't be. I won't be seeing until tomorrow afternoon.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I'll promise you that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: What if it's all just kickers the entire first half,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: we'll get there later. That could be a thing too,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But anything else there that you want to talk about title?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: If not, you could take us into wide receiver. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: guess I should say quick. I don't have much to
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: add at running back. My take was I I don't
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: have a lot of love. I think even if Keaton
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Mitchell starts to get involved, these guys can show up
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: in you know, one off spots and lineups and stuff
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like that. But the way the Ravens like to do
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: it when they get him back and healthy is they
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: like to mix up the trio of them just to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: screw around. It just keeps the defense tired. They don't
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: know what to do. It makes ru When you already
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: have to deal with Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: not fun to then have to deal with shifty dudes
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like Justice Hill and Keith Mitchell. You see the defense
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: panting out there, the clock moving quicker, all of that,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: so can they get there? Sure? It just that's anything
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: in Showdown. But I don't have a lot of love
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: outside of the Gus Edwards, Henry and Hill. And I'm
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: with Hoop on the the JK. Dobbins stuff. Not super
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: excited about him even regard you know, irregardless of my
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: other thoughts at captain and whatnot, so title anything else there,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: If not, you can go to wide receiver.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Was there?
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: My mind definitely could be wrong, but I feel like
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: there was a game earlier on the year where Derrick
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Henry exploded too, but Justice Hill also had a good game,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: and they both were and might competitive.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: It was very early on. I think it was. It
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: might have been like one of the first showdown slates
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of the season, and like it was.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: That wasn't the Chiefs, unfortunately because I checked, But it
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: was really close to one of the first.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Henry had a couple of big games, and it was
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a Justice Hill like a ten yard checkdown and then
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: he took it to the house or whatever that kicked
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: it off. I think I remember what you're talking about.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what game it was.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Some of them will have the game, but it was
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: the first one to hoop and then that was the
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: likely game when I went back and looked. But yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: your point hoop too. Just like the two minute drill
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: and the lack of value, I do. I will play
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: probably some Henry Hill. I definitely won't exit out receiving.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: It was a Bills game. It was a Bills game.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Bills game. Oh they killed him, yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had forty and then I think Justice
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Hill had.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: They pulled this up.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: He caught a nineteen yard touchdown when they're at fourteen
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: to three.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's got yeah, yeah, so.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, six for seventy eight. That game The Hunter is
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: twenty four for one.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Receiving I mean, I love two of my favorite plays.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I end the slate, say Flowers, Rashad Bateman, you leverage
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: off with some Henry ownership those guys, I mean, Lamar
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: is going to be owned, but we made the case
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: at the captain position. They'll both showing the ownership. Bateman
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: only sixteen percent we have right now thirty one for
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Zay Flowers, say he's been an absolute monster. They on
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: the field eighty percent of the times, even in two
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: tight nine sets. I think they're both very, very solid.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Will be playing both in the flags looking to get overweight.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: And then Deantay Johnson's hardly been anything. Tyron Wallace what
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: he broke that one play which is really really tilting,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: not going to go there. Rager is the one, I
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: guess because of his price takedown cheap, but we did
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: show that. Or raygar Aglar excuse me, We'll get to
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Rager on the other side a little bit. Looks to
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: be the wide receiver three still still outsnapping Wallace and
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson in double. I'm gonna play some how excited
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: on him to play like the fifth option, though like
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Andrews is still ahead of him, likely still had Zay
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Bateman Henry. I mean, I'll let you talk more about that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: It's your Ravens team. It still looks to me though,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: like he's the wide receiver three until I see what
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Deontay or other these one of these other guys out
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: snap them charger side. I think Quentin Johnson's a very
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: solid play. I think Lad's a solid play, and then Rager.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I think I prefer more than Palmer because of the savings,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: but man like he was on the field thirteen snaps
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: last time, eighteen the week before. It's clearly Palmer, Ladd
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: and Quentin Johnson in three receiver sets. The problem is
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: we just have very very little value on the slate,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: which is why we were talking about Raager bits. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: prefer Bateman to Palmer a good bit at the same
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: price range. But I mean, of course I'm gonna play
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: some Palmer runs like seventy five percent of snap. So
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: how I rank it? I love Zay and Bateman my favorites.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I think Quentin Johnson might be my favorite on the
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: charger side and then lad and then I want you
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: to talk about Agelar a bit because he looks wide
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: receiver three to me, but still not exciting.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's you nailed it, because it's also
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: dealing with Andrews and likely on top of definitely dealing
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: with Zay Flowers and Bateman's always there too, But I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: will say it's another area where again, why I feel
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: very comfortable with my takes tonight and my stand on
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: my stuff is because like Rager and Davis are based
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: off or Jalen Reager whatever, Like these guys are based
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: off a last game basically and no value on the slate.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So like, if you can get the money, which I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: can up at Captain, then I can easily get to Agalore,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: or I can get to Deontay Johnson if I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: they finally roll them out for some catches. They've talked
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: about not being able to find ways to use them,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: and so he's just been a product of why not
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: pick him up? The Ravens basically did the same thing
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: they do with their drafts with Deontay Johnson. They said,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the best on the board in drafts is what we're
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: going to take he's not the best on the board.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: They were saying, for what they want for this guy,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: and for us just to pick him up. Let's just
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: pick him up. We don't use him, we don't use them.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It didn't cost us much, so we'll just grab him.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: That's all they thought about. He's a little bit better
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: than what they're asking for, so we'll take him. If
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: they don't use them. They don't, but showdown will be
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a place to find out. But the facts are Agalore Johnson,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Tylan Wallace, any of those guys, if you have love
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: for any of them, just don't seem to be getting
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: as much in the optimizer, at least as you're gonna
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: get with Rieger and Davis because a lot of what
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: we seen lately, and then needing the value for Lamar.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So you can just pay up a little bit to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: those guys. You can pay up a little bit to
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Gus Edwards, who we just talked about at running Back.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: The Justice Hill one's the one that ibably get steamed.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: So title you always do a good job of kicking
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: these things back and forth. If Justice Hill is getting
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: all that steam, we know what lineups to put him in,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: what game scripts and talk even other ways you could
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: do it. Well, why not get Guz Edwards on the
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: other side for four hundred bucks less f it's the
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: same spot and maybe he's the guy that scores a
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns and it's not Justice Hill, Knight or
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: who knows. And then same at wide receiver, so who,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you. At wide receiver. I like
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the Big three, which is for me, Lad McConkie zay
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and Quintin Johnston Bateman very close behind, and like title
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: statements for him, so I'll go there. But I kind
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: of like the Ravens guys as just plug and play
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for a thousand bucks or two thousand bucks more before
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: playing around with all the other stuff, just because I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: won't need it as much at captain for you, if
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you take the heavy Lamar stand, you probably need them.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Who yeah, watch it and just said Bateman's over rushing
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: or receiving yards. I just saw that go off on
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: DraftKings someone watching.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I do like that player. I do like that call
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: at fifty four hundred. He might be my favorite wide receiver.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I mean he's the guy that Lamar's going to with
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: these deep shots. He tends to get open because A
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: lot of attention goes to Zay, A lot of attention
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: goes to Mark Andrews. He's kind of like the third
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: guy there, and he's you know, when he does well,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: it seems like he's wide freaking open for these touchdowns.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: So I do like him a ton. At fifty four,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I want to I'm with you, guys. I want to
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: focus on like these main guys, like I want to
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: focus on lad Quintin Johnson, Palmer. I want to focus
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: on Zay, Flowers, Bateman and even Agelar, like I know
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be out there and get opportunities. I don't
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: want to mess with like I'm gonna have some of rigor,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know, maybe just him, like
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the Deontay Johnson thing like crazy, like he not only
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: is he not getting repch when he does get reps,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: it looks terrible, like there's no connection with Lamar Jackson.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: He looks lost out there. It looks absolutely lost. So
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I don't want to have to dig dig down to
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: these guys. So if I have to lower my I'm
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: playing Lamark cappen. If I have to lower my Lamar
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Captain exposure to avoid some of these dumpster fires down here,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Like I'm definitely gonna do that, like, definitely gonna do it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I just don't you.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Know if Rigor and Darius Davis and Thailand Wallace are
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: like the popular pump plays, man, I want nothing to
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: do with that, And they're not going to be like popular,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: but they're the ones that people are going to play
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: on the slate. I want to avoid that as much
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: as possible. I want to focus on the main guys here,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Like we talked about the Chargers, McConkey, Quintin, Johnson, Palmer,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and then with the Ravens, Ze Flowers, Bateman, and I
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: agree with you guys. In my eyes, it's aguilar number
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: three and he gets looks, man, he gets red zone
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: looks too, So it's very valuable. So, you know, just
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: to sum it up here, at wide receiver, if I
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: have to lower some Lamar Captain to avoid some of
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: these dudes, these cheap wide receivers, I would be willing
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to do so because I just don't see the upside
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: with these guys. Why why is Reger? Why's Rieger the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: guy though? Like why is he getting a respectable projection today?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Like it's not a huge number but you know what,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: why is it?
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Why is it him thirteen snaps last week which was.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: The thirteen, So that's what we're banking.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, nineteen percent and no value.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: That's that's it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I just like what you said because
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people understand how to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: use it that way, probably, but like, that's exactly what
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you can do inside ship Tomizer. So you just said it.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: If you don't like your twenty two percent reager and
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you want to put him down to ten, let's just say.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm good with that. I was making
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: stuff up, but you go do a rebuild and come back.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And let's say you were comfortable with sixty, so you'd
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: already had Lamar capped at sixty. You're saying that if
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: that takes Lamar down to fifty two, you just run.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: You're like, I I'd rather fit. I'd still got fifty two,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and I feel good with Lamar, but I'm comfortable because
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: now I don't have twenty two percent riager. Who I'm
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: not really feeling that even though it's not a crazy number,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it's just not a number that you love either. So yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: good calling.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, any optimizer you're using. If you go ahead
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: like in this scenario, and obviously we'd prefer that you're
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: using the ship demizer in this scenario. If you reran that,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you're just going to naturally get less Lamar. He's the
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: most expensive captain. When you put a cap on the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: cheap play, it's getting ownership, it's gonna bring down your
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: ownership for the more expensive guys, and it'll it'll naturally happen.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good call out there. Go back to you
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: title anything else you want to mention there. I think
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about quite a bit there, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I definitely like agal Or more than
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson. I just wanted to bring up sort of
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: some of the coach speak around him is they're not
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: even trying to get this guy going. He's a depth
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: versatility piece. We know how that goes. Sometimes it's all,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: we can't really use a guy, we're not planning on
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: using them. Then what happens all of a sudden they're
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: using them tonight. But I'm just saying my lineup, it's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: all how you build. I know, my boy, Nick Kat
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I got to call him out. He's got like forty
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: comments in here today and I love the guy and
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: appreciate him big time. Ravens fan. He said to be
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: if he finishes top three, he'll take me to a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Ravens game. Everything he's saying is Raven's heavy, and I
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: love it. Cheer for your team, but it's like that's
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: you know your plan that you should love tonight. You're
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: set up for what you think is gonna happen. You
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: got a perfect game, but there should be no confusion
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: when you go to build and then you hope that
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that's what happens. I'm doing the same thing, just in
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a different way, so it would lead to these type
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: of lineups more for me than needing to go that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: other way. That's that's kind of the breakdown. I can
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: give title anything else you want to add at wide
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: receiver if not go to the tight ends.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so just quick looking. Week nine was Deontay Johnson's
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: first week back. Aglar had nineteen snaps, Wallace twenty, Deontay seventeen,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: so pretty much a straight chop of all of them.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Last week Week ten Deontay or yeah, two weeks, yeah,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: it would be last week. We're still Week twelve, De'ante
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: only had five, Wallace twelve, Agilar thirty one, so that
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: was way more. But then last week it came down
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit. Wallace got nine snaps and deontay overdoubled.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: So do you think that trend continues and we can
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: see D'Onta and Aglar almost getting the same snaps this week?
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Do you have any I know like the Kenny knows
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and this is the Ravens man. That's what I'm saying.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: They do this shit and it makes it extremely frustrating,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: frustrating for fantasy players us and people watching. The reason
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: they love it though, is because it's confusion for the defense.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: There's what what did you prepare for? It's hard enough
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: preparing for Lamar Jackson with Derek Henry to your point title,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: why you feel comfortable with your eyesight and watching this,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: because man, that gets tough to deal with in itself.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Now you've got to figure out all this other shit
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and they're switching it up on you. So it's really
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: hard to say, but I think your breakdown of how
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you can handle it in the way like you separate
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: them or you can make your stands based on what
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you're seeing. A lot of it's dictated by your captain
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: ownership and who you've got up top, and then how
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: you see the game flow going. So I mean, I
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: thought you broke it down best, and I can't really
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: poke holes in that, Like, I think that is a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: good call out. That's exactly what I would expect to
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: see tonight.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so at the end of the day, they're all
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: below ten percent, I'd make a max one. They're all cheap,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: and then you hope you get the right one. It
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: looks like a gilar to me. Wallace looked like the
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: last guy though, whenever he the Bengals game, when he
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: absolutely went off, it took one play. I mean, if
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: you watch the Washington Dallas Cowboys game yesterday, one of
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: the most bizarre fourth quarters ever, you will see that
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: the most random stuff can always happen in showdown. So yeah,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: max one of them. Tight end position another interesting spot.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, people are gonna have to play Andrews and
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: likely right in that mid tier, both on the field obviously,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: both big names, and there's not value, much value on
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: the slates.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I was surprised.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: Andrews props are a decent bit better plus one eighty
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: five to score Likely plus three eighty a couple more
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: rushing or receiving yards on the Andrews side. Yesterday, when
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't really know, I leaned into props with Bucky Irving,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: which I mean, man, dude couldn't have ran any worse
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: at the one yard line with Sean Tucker, but he
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: still did get there, and props led me right with
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: White or with him over White. Today, the ownership's close,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: but my brain like this is eye test. Andrews look
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: slow in dust. Likely an absolute beat.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We're back to the eye test. You better put those
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: goggles back on.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: Yeh likely a beast.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Andrews is slow and dust. I will be playing both.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: The thing is Andrews has been out snapping. I think
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go eye test. Wise, it lean likely I'm
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: gonna play them both. I'm gonna play them both. I'm
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I'm locked in now with these Galagles. He got that
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: they're both good plays. You need them both. I don't
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: love them at the captain spots though, because of how
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: much they do rotate. I prefer going up to the
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Bateman the Dissley's of the world. But right now, my leagues,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: likely just because I think he's better, props do like Andrews,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: though ownership close, price close.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: I will play both. Disley another very solid play. I
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: said'm going to play a little at the captain spot.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Then at Tucker Fisk twenty four snaps list last week
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: twenty three, the week before. Again he's absolutely terrible. He's
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: not he's not a part of the offense of like
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: passing the ball. He's gonna make plays, he blocks, he's there.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: It's like the fifth option. The fifth option might be enough.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Kuby literally scored zero yesterday and was on the winner.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: He gets one two Lamar, Henry, all that goes off.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to play a little Fisk, I guess,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: but I shouldn't say I have to play him. You
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: don't have to play this bumb by any means. I'm
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: playing thirty plus teams. I'll probably play very little. But
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: that's just again, there's no value on this slate.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say this, who before I kicked
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you on tight end because this is a couple interesting things. One,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I adjusted the Jalen Rieger down to ten as you
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: can see here, insanity, but Lamar went up to eighty six.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Now and if I mean this is your thing and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you can definitely attest to this, Like you go back
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: look at Mark Andrews hops up to almost fifty percent.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: At forty six hundred, you got almost twenty percent fisk.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Now like it is just still finding you those value
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: plays and jamming them up there to put Lamar up top.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So it's even when you make adjustments, you could still
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: do it differently in other ways. You can obviously go
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: to captain and adjust Lamar down. But I'm just saying
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: just to note there's that, but it's put in a
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: lot of faith. The other thing I will say, give
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: me your thoughts, so because I'm gonna segue to you
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: on this anyway, forty six hundred Mark Andrews, you know
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: he made fun of the goggles, but we're showing around
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: twenty four percent ownership in the flex here we're getting
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: double at you go to the very bottom, Isaiah likely
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: two hundred bucks less, we're showing higher ownership on him.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But man, he's just not getting in there in the projection.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: My question to you is it's projection driven, and I
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: get that, but we know what they both are capable,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and realistically, I don't know if we see this ownership,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: if the if that's how it's going to go in
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and optimizer. Our optimizers great and others are awesome too,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: But if that's what it's jamming, how can it possibly
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: be that close in ownership? Therefore, Isaiah likely could end
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: up being like one third the ownership of Mark Andrews
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: and he could do the same thing.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, based on what we have, that's a pretty widespread
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: two point was a two point seven fantasy points. So yeah,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: if you run it using our projections, that's what's going
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: to happen. I mean, I think it's closer than that
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: for sure, and I'm going to have you know, a lot.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Of both, to be honest with you.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I like Andrews, I like Likely. The one thing about
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: likely very steady workload. I mean in terms of targets
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: like five one against Denver that was a blowout. We
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: talked about it on the show. We predicted that, we
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: said the Ravens were gonna absolutely smash. That's the one
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: spot where titles eye tests were paid off quite well
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: because the Ravens beat the shit out of the Broncos
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: and we all kind of agree with that. But they
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: didn't need to pass the ball just one time than
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: four four four three too, so he's steadily getting targeted
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: by Lamar Jackson. I think a better play than Lamar Jackson.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Captain teams. Both these guys probably are the probably somewhat
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: touchdown dependent, but I like both of these guys, Like
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: this is the range I want to get to over
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: the punts, if possible. I want to get to these
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: tight ends. I want to get to the Gus Edwards,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: the Justice Hills of the world, opposed to like these
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: cheap random pass catchers.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: So that's one thing I'll be looking to do.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: The fifth guy at two hundred, I'll play some of
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: him and then I'm really not going to mess with
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: anyone else at this position. Then well Disley, I mean
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: just it's almost like he's on a lot of these plays,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Like it's like the players are almost like designed for him.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, Herbert's looking to him immediately getting the ball
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: quick sixty four hundred when we know that the way
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: to beat the Ravens is through the air. I think
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: he's a really, really good play today. Don't know if
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I get there in Captain, but we'll certainly have a
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: lot of will Disley uh in the flex. I mean,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: even like Ravens heavy teams like Ravens five ones or
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Ravens four two's. I think Disley is like the perfect
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: guy to include in there because just so many just
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: easy receptions that he gets racks up the PPR points
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly. So I really like Disley, like Andrews likely
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and then Fisk and you know nothing else.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Really, this was just one thing to show too, is
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: if you go to like Lamar Captain lineup with Herbert
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: on the on the other side, who we saw it
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: was jamming in the flex, you could obviously remove Disley
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: even and get Zay in there with Mark Andrews and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: still have almost five thousand for the just have to
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: fill two spots like that doesn't even force you to
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: go to Riger or any of those guys if you
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to. So that's why these lineups make sense,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: that's why they'll be popular. You're really just kind of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: having to hope that it's not Lamar that does it
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: if you're you're on my side of the things of
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: handling it. But clearly this is why it looks so good.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And again some people won't want Zay and they'll say,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: like I think a lot of people tonight are good
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: with Dicker because it rhymes with kicker, right, Dick or
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the kicker people are happy to put that in. You
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: could see the other thing too. We're going to kickers anyway.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: In a second, hoop, I'll stay with you. But Justin Tucker,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: you know, banish him from the Hall of Fame. Now
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: he can't make a kick. He sucks. He's another reason
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: tonight this guy's gonna pop, you know, three or four
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: field goals in when Lamar slows down. That's another leverage
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: piece to the Lamar and Henry stuff. He'll just bounce
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: back and do it. Andy'll go, oh, he does still
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: know how to kick. Imagine that one of the best
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: kickers of all time knows how to still kick a
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: field goal. And sure enough, that's a thing. So take
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: us into kickers and D's man, we're getting through it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Interested in the kickers tonight for sure, Dicker and Justin Tucker.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I anticipate being overweight on both of those guys. The
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: defense will just be going back to my standard stuff
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: like whatever I get, I get, and it's probably not
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: gonna be much. And they're not really that highly owned,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: you know. You know the case with the defense, there's
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of times one play is enough they get
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: a pick six. I mean, that's probably good enough. That's
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: the risk you take with fading them. But I can't
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: imagine I go and build my teams on and be
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: overweight on either. I'll be overweight on the kickers and
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: under on the on the defenses.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Tonight, yeah, title, I'll come to you on that. In
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: one second, I was just gonna show because the chat
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: was asking another like ship demizer, another great thing overwrite
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: our projected points here. If you're on team Hoop and
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: you say, look, you guys gave me a great starting point.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's a little closer than that. You know,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna you can do it easily, But I think
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: some people don't do this. You don't have to. It's
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: just my takeaway though, too is if you want to
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: give some here to seven point three, I also take
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and you obviously it can come from a lot of
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: other places. You can still leave our projection alone. I'm
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: gonna say I like to give and take because then
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: it will really fix it up in the optimizer too,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: to say, okay, now it's gonna consider the price per
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: dollar you're robbing, you know, robbing Andrews to pay Likely
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: so to speak for Rob Peter to pay Paul if
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: you ever heard that one. So other things you can
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: do like that that it will overwrite it and take
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: over where you use everything we have as a starting point.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: You can also do that with ownership. You say, you
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: know what I heard Tambo say that doesn't make much sense.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I actually think it's gonna be twenty five point seven
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: over here on him, and I'm gonna take Likely down
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: to see. I think it directly affects him, same price,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: same like just the way people do it. You can
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want with that the title before you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: go Kickers and D's look at this lineup, almost seven
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: k left on the table and you got Lamar Captain
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: with Herbert Andrews and Dicker Like, that's pretty good starting
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: point for a game like this.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: You think on that, Yeah, and that's why if you
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: just go in to an optimizer and run run teams,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get a ton of Lamarch.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: It's easy to play him.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: It's soft pricing, like it just goes to show like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: the initial run we did where you're getting all that
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Lamar Captain, but you're still getting a ton of Herbert
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: and Henry, who are by far the next two highest
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: projected guys.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Oh baby, just on the great call outs. But I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: also just saw something that was gonna send over to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: title for the perfect segue. Justin Tucker the same price
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: as Mark Andrews tonight and the projection hates him. That
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: is the play right there.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: We got to get back on the It doesn't matter
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: what the game is. It can go over, it can
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: go close, it can go with it. Like if they're
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: putting up points of any kind, we could still be
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: some of those. Some of those could still be coming
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: from Tucker. So give us your thoughts, Kickers and D's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: title anything extra add there. That's an interesting one though.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: I love the Kickers.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, why can't Justin Tucker outscore Zay Flowers last
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: week's say had eleven point nine week before seven point four?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Why can't Justin Tucker get twelve? And I'll score both
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: of them Like that's leaving chunks of sailor on the table.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying Bill is a lineup dropped on to Tucker,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: but that show's right there. You can leave four thousand
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: and three thousand something like that on the table. I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: don't like a lot of these value punts. I have
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: to like these kickers in the mid tier. Jake Elliott
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: got the job done again yesterday. And then the defense
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: is I'm naturally gonna play them because we're showing them
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: without thirteen and ten percent. I wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: that was ten percent Ravens, six percent Chargers or something.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: And on a very when a slate that I want
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: to eat pretty good or a decent I want to chalk.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I want to try that cheaper range as much as possible.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: Why not just instead of going Justice Hill, go Charters defense.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: I know they're a little more expensive, more people will
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: leave that four hundred and go Hill because he projects
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: a lot better if Ravens are Chargers outscore Andrews are
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: likely That's a way that you could see solo shipper
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: five hundred k Shawn's calling it, et cetera. Like if
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: you tell me the defense is on the winner, there's
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: a lot better chance that you're gonna have a lot
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: less dupes than if it's not.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: And it's like both kickers, et cetera. So just game theory.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Wise, it's like I like the defenses more than that,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Like Fisk, Davis, Wallace, Johnson has kids, et cetera. Because
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: they always will have forty eight minutes they have a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: chance to make one play. But yeah, it's in a vacuum.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Looking at the game, I think they both put up points.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense to like the defense as much.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: But hey, maybe an on side kick return like the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: Cowboys yesterday to seal it.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was wild too, Hoop, I'll kick it over
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to you man, any I guess title, Any final thoughts
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: before we go to Hoop for fandels stuff.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: No, I know, I don't like the chief stuff much,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: and I think I'm gonna I'm we talked about captain,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: but I'm definitely gonna place on Distelly, some Bateman, some Johnston,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: and then you can leave money easier and avoid the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: bottom tier. So I'm definitely gonna be playing more mid
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: I'll be overwaight to the mid tier relative to the field.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been the case for like some showdowns started,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: and people still go on Twitter and bitch about it
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: every single time they're on No, I mean it's literally
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: been every single season. Like they show up on Optimal,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: the same dudes get on Twitter and cry about it
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: and don't adjust their play.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's just endless, absolutely endless.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's the gift that keeps on giving.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: How do these kickers keep doing it? I don't because
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: they're price and they get natural opportunities throughout the game
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: and just tons of different ways that you can see
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: it all right, who final thoughts and then FanDuel anything
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: you see over there.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel definitely a little better after talking through it,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: and not one hundred percent sure the direction I'm gonna go.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: To me.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: It's either if you my main thing for sure is
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: if you are playing Lamar captain, I think go very
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: overweight and leave Salar around the table and not just
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: like a little bit, leave like big chunks of salary
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: on the table.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: That's kind of my thought.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: But I think you know, we did a good job
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: bringing I want to avoid those cheap plays as much
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: as possible too, So if that does end up meeting
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: less Lamar, I'm fine with that.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Like I just it does not feel good playing some
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: of those dudes.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I'm talking dudes. I mean the top value that showed
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: up a ton played what did you say was thirteen
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: plays last week and that's why he's getting a decent number.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: That's that's not where you want to be FanDuel. Really
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: bad pricing. I mean, i'd say, you like, really really bad.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Sixteen k for Henry, fifteen to five for Lamar Justin
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Herbert fourteen k.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: After that, everyone's super cheap.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: JK. Dobbins is ironically the next most expensive. Feel the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: same way about him on FanDuel as I do on DK.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: But like lad At eleven five, J. Flowers twelve five.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Quintin Johnson ten to five, Disley seven k, Like what
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: a bad price? Take seven k for Disley, he's been
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: so so good seven K.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Bateman eight k, Deontay Johnson ten K, Yeah, ten K
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: for Johnson that is the craziest price. Holy shit, you're right.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Ten K for Deontay Johnson.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: That is insane. Wow, it's you know, you know what
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: you're getting with Fandal. I guess you know, shouldn't be surprised.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: But like dis at seven k is definitely miss price.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be very easy to build teams. Dicker and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Tucker eighty five nine k.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: You know it is what it is, what it is
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: over there on fandel.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for that reason. I mean like bad, bad
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: pricing tonight, it's almost the same price for Dobbins as
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: his quarterback, who's going against one of the worst pass
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: defenses in the NFL that has the opportunities. If you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: like the Herbert stuff on DraftKings, you should love it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: over on FanDuel because the ownership over there with MVP
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: ownership is just basically all in on Lamar. You have
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: literally more than half the field. It's probably gonna play
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Lamar up top over there because it's free based on
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the other pricing. So yeah, you did a good job
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: breaking it down, but some of the stuff embarrassing over there.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: By the way, I've been liking pandle for the main slate.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: It's been coming through about another really good week. Had
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a chance last night with the the Hurts aj Brown
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: stuff rounding out the main Slate again. We got seventeenth
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: and the big two hundred dollars Blitz had some outs
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: there with Barkley, like it's just it's great for main Slate.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: It's a tough scene for Showdown. But like you said
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Hoop earlier and a segue into the marketing stuff for
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: next week. For upcoming this week, we got the Wednesday
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: show by the way DraftKings did add their new contests,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: and because of the five dollars and the forty four
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: to forty four that they ran, they did get some
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: hundreds and two hundreds and stuff in there. But what
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: they did, which I can at least appreciate somewhat, is
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: they focused on the balanced payout structure to try and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: not piss people off even more. But everything got chopped
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to what the size I would have expected to see,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Like we got way less people in the field for
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: these backup alternatives to the six hundred k some five
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: dollars or the four and forty four dollars buy in
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: that only so many people can play, so.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Very very disappointing setup, Like it's just just looking through this.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't check that yet.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Hopefully better, hopefully better.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: It's all day though, because it's got it's it's three
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: games staggered. There's you know, everyone's doing stuff with their families,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: even me. I'm Canadian. It's not my Thanksgiving, but I'm
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: still celebrating talking to people about it in Discord, having
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: a good time. My challenge is, I know why they
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: do it with the marketing angle five bucks to win
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: a million. But if you're not going to advertise it
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: and blow this thing up all the time, why take
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: away one of the best days for your regular players
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: that love this slate. It just that's what bugs me
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: about it is what it is.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: I agree Titling thoughts on that.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add, man or we'll get
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Fandly, if you don't play Lamar or Herbert's, you're pretty
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: much different to MVP. The defenses will be mega contrarian
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: priced up right by the Kickers, and then just like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: the Palmers, the Likelys, the Gus Edwards, the Justice Hills
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: of the world, Angular all have to be lower on
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: because of that disleey miss price at seven k So
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: I mean I still don't play FanDuel Showdown. I can
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: get a plenty of money on DraftKings think gets a
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: way better format. But I do think there's plenty of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: pivots because of that disleey miss pricing and it being
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: soft up top to leave little money make a pivot
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: here or there, and the bonuses like you talked about
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: either last week or two weeks ago, for the receivers
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: and running backs being able to get the one hundred
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: yards is huge on Fandal to up their chance at
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: the oppomot MVP, whereas in the past it was almost
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: solely quarterbacks. So you have nothing more to add. And yeah,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for Wednesday. Thanksgiving is always one of my
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: favorite days for DFS. Christmas is up there as well
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: with NBA, but the late swap ability staggered game times
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• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: always started off so not the best game, I mean,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Cooper Rush and stuff, but hey, money to be made.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Cooper Rush pon me like storyline around these guys now,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: So before it was just bad games, bad quarterbacks. It's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: still kind of that, but now like Cooper Rush, you know,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit more talk de Vito after what we saw. Yes,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: so there's at least some buzz around them, even though
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: they didn't play great. It's more of at least we
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: got something to talk about going into the games. But
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: we'll break it all down on Wednesday. Hoop any final
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: thoughts before we get out of here.
• 1:09:17
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• 1:09:22
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  Speaker 2: The Chargers kind of pushing the pace a little bit
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: more and hopefully they play into the weakness of the
• 1:09:30
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  Speaker 1: talk about Christmas Day basketball and whatnot. Member NFL's trying
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  Speaker 1: to take it over nowadays too. So two games on
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  Speaker 1: Christmas Day? Yeah, what do you say?
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  Speaker 2: Who? I said? Smart? And then they can own any
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  Speaker 2: I mean NBA ratings are down, I mean why not
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  Speaker 2: take advantage of it and pop in with the NFL games.
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  Speaker 1: That's what That's what they do exactly. They say, you
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  Speaker 2: It is crazy how every player has the same mindset
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  Speaker 2: with this, and every player has bitched and voice their
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  Speaker 2: their concerns and their opinions, and yet it never gets changed.
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  Speaker 2: point they'd listen to their customers. But I guess not.
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  Speaker 1: I think it probably Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep filling it up. Yeah, they're not.
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  Speaker 4: like they would fill it the other way if that's
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  Speaker 4: what people want.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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• 1:11:43
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