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Transformation and Authenticity · Divas That Care Network

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  SPEAKER_00: It's Divas That Care Radio.
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  SPEAKER_00: Stories, strategies, and ideas to inspire positive change.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Divas That Care, a network of women committed to making our world a better place for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, though, stay tuned for another jolt of inspiration.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Divas That Care.
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  SPEAKER_01: My name is Candice Gish, and I am the founder of the Divas That Care.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited that you've all tuned into our program today.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited for another reason.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to be talking with an old friend of mine, Paula Hopwood, and I haven't chatted with her for years, and I'm just so excited.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were chatting before the show, and you know when...
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited to be here and hear your voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been so long.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to catch up to see what you've been up to.
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  SPEAKER_01: But before we kind of dive into some questions that I have for you, would you mind reintroducing yourself to the Diva family?
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  SPEAKER_02: Reintroducing myself to the Diva family.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure, I can.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hello, my name's Paula Hopwood, as you've already heard.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what I like to do in life is I help others to leave behind what the world has taught them.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you know those conditions, those programs, those things that hold you back, that little voice inside you that tells you can't do things?
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  SPEAKER_02: I like to squash that little voice and help you to squash it and kick it out of your life and to live authentically, to live...
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  SPEAKER_02: Your truth, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And not only, you know, got training and all that and stuff, but I've lived it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have quite a story behind me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm still living, actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was going to say, it's not even behind me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm still living it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Every day by day, I choose to live this life in a positive way.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's kind of me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've got lots of juicy stories and exciting twists and turns in my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's chat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ask me some questions,
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  SPEAKER_01: Kim.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm excited.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we were mentioning before the show started that I think the last time I had interviewed you on the Divas was about five or six years ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it has been such a long time and your journey has changed so much in that time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's the kind of stuff I want to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I follow you on social media and I see the things that you're doing, but our listeners haven't seen that journey that you've been through.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I had met you, we had met through some interesting circumstances in regarding our children.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, what a neat way to meet somebody in that context.
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  SPEAKER_01: and get to know them on a personal level and to know what they've been doing on a business level.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you've gone through this amazing transformation in that period of time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I want to kind of dive a little bit back before we talk about what's happening today.
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  SPEAKER_01: But why did you decide to go through this transformation and do all the changes that you did?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, my life...
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  SPEAKER_02: was so you know i i was raised i was gonna say i was raised i was raised to think that i was i was worthless i had like an abusive lifestyle right and and i didn't have a whole lot of support around me and i was just you know stuck in a stuck in a wheel like a hamster wheel going round and round and round of unworthiness and hateful thoughts and negative relationships toxic relationships and the worst one was with myself right the stuff i would tell myself and And I would never put my safety first.
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  SPEAKER_02: I got to a point where I got suicidal.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just couldn't take it anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: I got depressed and then suicidal.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I had a near-death experience where I had the white light and everything, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I learned some things in there.
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  SPEAKER_02: some realizations that just hit me that I was not made for abuse, that I was this glorious, beautiful being of light that came here, that we all are.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I saw the truth, and I saw the truth of what I had been fed in the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's why I call it the world, you know, like a media, like...
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  SPEAKER_02: School, you know, religion, I mean everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was being bombarded with messages that I just wasn't enough, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's all a lie.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I began a journey of embracing my truth.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just started doing one thing after another, whatever my soul, whatever excited my soul and brought joy to my life, I did.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it led me out of there, and there was this voice guiding me all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, like I already spoke about the negative voice in us that tries to stop us, but there's also a positive voice.
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  SPEAKER_02: And...
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  SPEAKER_02: This voice led me out of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, I started writing down messages that I got from this voice and I put it in a book.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the book itself has its own unique story because the last time we spoke was about the book and it took me five years to bring it out.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's been a whole journey about that too.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it came out at the right time here just in December of 2020.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the thing is these messages I heard helped transform my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: and all those messages are in the book as a matter of fact the book is called messages in my mind it transformed my life and it brought me out of that and you know when you I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what an empowering thing to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I always love that when people teach what they've learned, I think that that's what our purpose is, is to empower others because we all have those unique journeys and we don't know how we're going to impact another person.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if we can do it in a positive way, I think it's just the most rewarding thing that we can do in our lifetime.
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  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, One of the messages that I heard way before I ever got the Internet or a computer or anything when I was coming out of that abuse is what I allow will continue.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I heard that so clear in my head, you know, what I allow will continue.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I started to apply that to everything, good, bad, or indifferent.
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  SPEAKER_02: What I allow will continue.
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  SPEAKER_02: I started to see...
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  SPEAKER_02: where I had been responsible for my part in everything, right, where I had tried to make people happy, you know, where I tried to stay in toxic relationships, where I had thought, you know, hurtful thoughts to myself that kept me caught in these places.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I learned from that and started to change my whole life around.
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  SPEAKER_02: I applied that what I allow will continue.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is this what you want, Paula?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, because what you're allowing is going to continue, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so, hey, It just led me out of everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was like the biggest takeaway, I guess, of my whole life in that time.
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  SPEAKER_02: And even currently, it's what I use now.
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  SPEAKER_02: What I allow will continue.
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  SPEAKER_02: What are you going to allow?
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you want, you know, abundance?
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you want that peace, that love?
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  SPEAKER_02: Then
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  SPEAKER_03: do
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  SPEAKER_02: things that bring that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Live joyfully so you can experience joy, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: What I allow will continue.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's been a, I mean, it's not over.
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  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like it's over.
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  SPEAKER_02: I go, it's been a great journey, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's not over, you know, because I am still, I'm a joy seeker.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I am here to experience joy and love, and I'm just loving it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_01: I love those words, you know, and I think it's very powerful.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of us have gone through a lot of different things through 2020, and I always tell people, 2021, we're going to have such a great year.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to do so many great things.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I saw so many transformations just in the last year with so many individuals.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I think in the beginning of every year, we're always looking for what are our goals?
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  SPEAKER_01: What are we trying to seek for, you know, this year?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think what you're...
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  SPEAKER_01: saying right now is a very powerful tool and i i just love it and i want to applaud you for it because i think people need to hear that
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  SPEAKER_02: yeah you know and it's universal truth too um like i said before i didn't have the computer i didn't have the internet now i see these memes that say what i allow will continue or these whatever these pictures these quotes And I just think it's so cool because it takes me back to my near-death experience in the white light when I realized the white light is love and we're all connected, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so it's universal knowledge.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just thought it was so amazing because everyone has access to this, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Everyone has access to this, and we are all one.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's just all one big love.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just love that because when you start applying the universal principles to your life the universal knowledge the universal love you drop all those attachments and conditions and programs that have been holding you back right and it's it's wonderful how clear your life gets and your thoughts get and and like i said you start living your life with uh with love you know and with with joy so uh i'm i'm excited about that and like i said it shocked me What I Allow Will Continue was just such a great message that came through with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now let's dive into something else here.
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  SPEAKER_01: You mentioned at the beginning of the program that it has taken you five years to get your book out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I want to talk about that, the journey of deciding, obviously, to write your book, but why did it take you so long?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I want to dive into what the book's all about and how our audience can get a hold of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure, I laugh about it now.
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  SPEAKER_02: So these messages, I didn't write them all down, but I wrote down quite a few, and I always knew I would put them in a book one day.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I had all these notes, and I'd been at a writer's retreat with Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wayne Dyer and Reed Tracy of Hay House and stuff down in Hawaii there just before, down in Maui just before, I think it was a month, month and a half before Wayne passed away.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so what I did was I signed with a publisher.
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  SPEAKER_02: and one of these publishing packages and bought and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: And for three years, I handed them.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had my book cover done.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had my book done.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just handed it over to them.
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  SPEAKER_02: And for three years, I fought with them.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was weird.
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  SPEAKER_02: They even wanted me to change my name.
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  SPEAKER_02: This wasn't Hay House, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_02: But they wanted me to change my name.
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  SPEAKER_02: We fought for months over that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I said, I'm an abused woman who walked away from it all i'm not going to change my name right like like weird stuff so finally after three years i walked away and then i tried to bring it out on my own but i kept coming up against obstacles like technology things would come up and i couldn't get around them and so i'd get frustrated right and i would walk away because i never wanted to touch this book project when i was frustrated um never you know i just wanted that that loving feeling and And the technology issues, the way I was looking at it, is that they were my own.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I'd learned all these lessons, you know, how to stand up, how to have my boundaries, you know, just on that.
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  SPEAKER_02: changing my name part you know i really learned how to stand up and and hold boundaries on that one and i learned all these lessons and lessons in letting go letting go of the outcome you know uh...
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  SPEAKER_02: there's a whole bunch of authors that are upset suing that company and i decided to walk away from it because i didn't want that black energy around me right i wanted peace love and joy therefore i will do peace love and joy what i allow will continue So then it just got really funny after a while because something super simple, you know, I ended up becoming friends with the lady who did the graphic design work for the cover and like even just recently just before it came out she said oh yeah I can fix that take five minutes and it took an hour and a half like weird things would come up just one thing after another I thought it was going to be out in October it wasn't out in October I thought it was going to be out in November it wasn't out in November and so finally I had quit doing updates on it like actually years ago I quit doing updates on it because I had all my people all my friends on Facebook were excited about it coming out but I didn't know when it was going to come out, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So even this fall, like in 2020, I didn't know when it was going to come out because Amazon kept shutting it down for different reasons, and we'd have to, you know, go back through it again.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh,
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  SPEAKER_03: no.
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  SPEAKER_02: So finally, what was it, December 5th, we got it uploaded.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was accepted.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I decided on December 8th to let it be public known knowledge.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what happened was, is there was no promotions.
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  SPEAKER_02: There was no pre-sales.
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  SPEAKER_02: There was nothing.
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  SPEAKER_02: 8 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_02: on December 8th, I just posted on my Facebook, you know, and in my group and stuff like that, that it was available.
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  SPEAKER_02: And boom, it went to bestseller in an hour.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then...
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my
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  SPEAKER_01: goodness.
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  SPEAKER_02: Congratulations.
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  UNKNOWN: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thanks.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just under five hours, I checked it, and it was at number one bestseller in Canada.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then the next day when the stats started coming in from the States, it was a bestseller.
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  SPEAKER_02: And last time I checked, I think it was yesterday morning, it was still bestseller in both Canada and the States.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's pretty cool because no promotions, no pre-sales, and it shot up like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I've been hearing such great feedback because these are the literal messages I heard that changed my life, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so there's an intro to it, just sort of some background.
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  SPEAKER_02: Then there's a message per page.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then there's an author's update.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I talk about three lessons I learned during that time.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what's happening is– and this is really cool– When I was putting this book together, I saw how people were going to give it to other people, like just even people on the street and people who are needing it, people who are suicidal and all this, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's happening.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm getting messages from people how like this one lady, she ordered five copies and she's got, you know, went back and ordered five more and how she's giving it out and people are just passing it out to people on the streets.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I heard one gentleman, he said it was his catalyst for change.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's only been out just over a month.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and his whole world is changing because he's read this book now and he's applying the principles in it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, whoa, this is so cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a powerful, powerful book.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like it changed my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's called Messages in My Mind, A Journey from Darkness and Destruction to Divine Discovery.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's just been amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am so happy that in that five-year journey that I laugh about now, I never worked on the book when I was frustrated, you know, that I worked through my own life.
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  SPEAKER_02: my own, that's my baby, you know, that book.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I work through my own frustrations and stuff to bring it out in the right energy at the right time and trusting in that right time.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's another lesson right there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I
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  SPEAKER_01: was going to say, that's a very powerful lesson right there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep, it is a powerful lesson because the thing is, is I didn't know what was, I just wanted it out, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I just wanted it out and to be in the right hands.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then to have it do that in 2020 of all years.
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  SPEAKER_02: And to have it go to bestseller and the number one bestseller and an international bestseller was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it didn't have anything to do with what I did.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it just, the right timing and the right energy is all we need.
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  SPEAKER_02: We can't force anything, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: We can't control anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: It'll happen when it's supposed to happen or we'll just frustrate ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that was a big, big lesson for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm so glad that every time I felt frustrated with technology, I just walked away.
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  SPEAKER_02: You
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  SPEAKER_01: know what, Paula?
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  SPEAKER_01: I wish more people would hear that message because...
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  SPEAKER_01: I think we all get stuck in that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're like, we have deadlines, we have this, we have that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have this notion in our heads.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like we have to get it done.
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  SPEAKER_01: But when we get that frustrated, we can't get through that step.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it makes it even worse.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love how you said you walked away until you were ready.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've had to do that in a few instances in my life too, where, you know what, I just had to step back because there was something, it wasn't feeling right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's just not coming together.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was getting frustrated and I couldn't figure out why.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I did that too.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I said, you know what, I can't do this anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm either going to quit altogether or I have to just walk away for a bit until I can figure it out.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then when I came back, it was like a completely different
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  SPEAKER_02: feeling.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  UNKNOWN: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's just the way it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was a big lesson for me because especially as an entrepreneur, Entrepreneurs, we tend to, like our bosses can be brutal, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: They can make us work long hours and frustrating hours, and we're trying to put in everything and stuff, make things happen.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I love entrepreneurs and business owners and stuff because they just have a big, big heart, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And people who put in those long hours at work, employees and stuff like that, trying to make things work.
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  SPEAKER_02: But really, when it comes down to it, no matter how much we try and control and push and push and push, it's not going to work until it's ready to work.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was a big lesson.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I was aware of the lesson.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I was applying it, though.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: because it got delivered again to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I'm paying attention if anyone's listening.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, obviously it's worked out for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've done extremely well, and I'm so excited for this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what I'm going to be doing for all of our listeners, we'll be posting where you can go and check out Paula's book because I think it's really important that you all check it out and hopefully go and support her and purchase this and get a whole bunch to send out, as she was saying, to give out to as many people as you can.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right now it's on Amazon.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have contacted a few stores in Alberta to carry it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to be sending it up this year, so it will be out in other stores.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have to go with another publisher to do that, though.
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  SPEAKER_02: So right now the only way to get a hold of it is on Amazon and to order it that way.
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  SPEAKER_02: But there's the one store in Red Deer has already said yes, a crystal store that I used to go to all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there will be some more coming up here.
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  SPEAKER_02: I might have to do a book tour, too, which is going to be interesting during COVID times, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a bit of a rebel and a joker.
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  SPEAKER_02: But, yeah, so it'll be coming out.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm excited because, you know, all along I always thought it was the first initial launch of the book.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: But now I realize as more lessons come in, it's more than that because now I want to get it out into stores, right?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: The next thing that's going to be coming is Kindle, right?
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: There's different levels of it coming out and stuff.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, the work to get the message out is not over.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I actually got an email yesterday from somebody who her mother is in the seniors lodge in Drayton Valley, and she's wanting to get it for her mom, right, and wondering which library it's in, you know, if you can get it.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: the library can get it in the store and stuff so you know that's kind of on the docket for this year is to get it out there in that way so that people can go get it out of the library or people can go into their local bookstore and pick it up so watch out world here we come
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: oh my goodness are you well one of the things I should ask and probably our listeners are wondering too are you going to be doing another book then after this
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: yes Yes, it's the first in a series of three.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I've actually started writing the next book.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Because here's the interesting thing.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: This book, Messages in My Mind, while it's current today, it was actually written 20 years ago when I was writing down all my notes, right?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of interesting.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: And even the way that I wrote the book, so I just have it here with me.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: The way that I wrote the book and I handed it in five years ago, I didn't touch it.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: What I did was at the end it says about the author, you know, there's the last message and then it says about the author.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then what I did was I added to the book recently.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: I added an author's update, and that's with those three lessons.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's kind of cool, the progression, the history of this book.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: So the next book that's coming out, it's going to, well, I was going to say in the next 12 months, hopefully, but I'm not going to hold myself to that.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: But I am channeling it right now.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: It is coming through me right now.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so then it'll come out, and then the third one So I've always seen it as a trilogy, right?
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it'll be very, very cool when that happens.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, there's more books coming out other than just this one.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: I
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: love that.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll have to have you back on the program again when that next book comes out.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: And hopefully it won't be another five years because we definitely want to know what's going on.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: I
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: think I've learned some lessons and probably embodied them, so maybe it won't be five years.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: I laugh at
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: myself all the time, right?
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Life is too short.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: You have to enjoy the moments and live life to the fullest each and every day.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: And Paula, I believe you are doing that, and it's just been such a pleasure having you on the program today.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: One thing I want to ask you is if you have any tips and tools for our listeners
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, I was going to say, don't take life seriously.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Really, seek out the joy in your life, okay?
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, be willing to walk away from things that weigh you down, because life is meant to be joyful.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: Life is meant to be lived with love, right?
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so...
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: remember that you are this unique unique being who came here to live on this planet who came here to be a part of this who came here to experience love right and that you're not made for abuse you're not made to for negative situations okay so come out of agreement with those and step into agreement with you step into the agreement of of love right and uh yeah the i was just going to say the messages in the book will help you with that but always remember if i if i can lead you with one thing okay if I can leave you with one thing is what you allow will continue okay apply that to everything and you'll get there
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: thank you so much my friend I am so happy you came on today's program I really needed to hear that message myself and it's always a pleasure chatting with you
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: yeah thank you for having me on this has been fun laughing at myself it
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: went by too
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: quickly
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: it does doesn't
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: it
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: And Paul, we're definitely going to have you back on the program again.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: You have so much that you can share with all of our listeners.
• 25:08
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• 25:12
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• 25:15
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• 25:22
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• 25:24
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• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: And just a reminder, again, I am going to be posting all of Paula's social media links on our show, about our show today.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much, Paula.
• 25:43
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• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: I hope you have a fantastic day and that you make sure that you do something kind.
• 25:48
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