Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / UnitedHealthcare Expands Doula Coverage to Improve Maternal Health Outcomes
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- 0:00Hello, everyone. This is Jacob Emerson with the
- 0:02Becker's Payer Issues podcast. Very thrilled today to
- 0:05be joined by doctor Rhonda Randall, who serves
- 0:07as the chief medical officer for UnitedHealthcare's
- 0:10employer and individual business. Doctor Randall, thank you
- 0:14so much for taking the time to be
- 0:15with me on the podcast today. Thank you
- 0:17for having me. Absolutely. It's it's a pleasure.
- 0:20And before we dive into everything we wanna
- 0:21talk with you about, a special announcement from
- 0:23United. I'm wondering if you could first tell
- 0:25us a little bit more about yourself
- 0:27and give us an overview of your role
- 0:29at UnitedHealthcare.
- 0:31Yeah. Thank you for asking that. I'm a
- 0:33primary care physician and have been working with
- 0:36UnitedHealthcare for over two decades, focused on helping
- 0:40people live healthier lives and helping the health
- 0:42system work better for everyone.
- 0:44That, includes
- 0:46our,
- 0:47members who are going through
- 0:49health care journeys, including those that are preventative
- 0:53care and,
- 0:54avoiding when we can
- 0:56the escalation of a chronic disease and supporting
- 0:59members
- 1:00when they do have a significant health care
- 1:03journey.
- 1:04Wonderful. Well, Rhonda, thank you so much for
- 1:06taking the time to sit down and chat
- 1:08with us today. We're here today to talk
- 1:10with you about some exciting news from UnitedHealthcare.
- 1:13The company has announced a national expansion of
- 1:17its doula offering.
- 1:18And so throughout 2026,
- 1:20availability is going to continue to expand to
- 1:23additional employer groups. And by 01/01/2027,
- 1:26about 7,200,000
- 1:28members may have access to,
- 1:30this expanded coverage if it's part of their
- 1:32employer's health plan.
- 1:34So, Rhonda, to start us off, for our
- 1:35listeners who might not be familiar,
- 1:37what exactly does a doula do, and what's
- 1:40the significance of a major insurer like UnitedHealthcare
- 1:43expanding commercial coverage around this?
- 1:47Well, a doula is a non licensed,
- 1:49non clinically trained advocate
- 1:52who provides emotional, physical, and educational support, which
- 1:56can be throughout your pregnancy,
- 1:58during childbirth, and labor, and also in the
- 2:00postpartum period.
- 2:02And they don't deliver babies or provide medical
- 2:05care like a physician or a midwife may.
- 2:08They don't replace your doctor, but they are
- 2:10a very valuable part of that broader care
- 2:13team. And we're we've learned more and more
- 2:16about that in medical literature over the last
- 2:19several years that when a doula is working
- 2:21alongside
- 2:22those other clinicians who are part of your
- 2:25care team, it can help you feel more
- 2:27informed. It can help you feel more supported,
- 2:29more heard throughout your care journey.
- 2:32And there's good evidence now that there is
- 2:35improvement
- 2:36in preterm births, c section rates going down
- 2:40by more than fifty two percent,
- 2:42less babies need to be admitted to the
- 2:44NICU when there's lower preterm births,
- 2:48decreases of postpartum
- 2:50depression and postpartum
- 2:51anxiety by fifty seven percent when a doula
- 2:54is part of the care team. So,
- 2:56we see this as very valuable part of
- 2:59that helping people live healthier lives.
- 3:02And this is something that UnitedHealthcare,
- 3:06is doing now and in 2027
- 3:08will be doing at a very significant scale.
- 3:12And I do wanna dive in a bit,
- 3:14in just a bit, in terms of some
- 3:16of the the clinical importance here, but I'm
- 3:19also wondering what you were hearing from employers
- 3:21themselves in regards to the demand for something
- 3:24like this.
- 3:26Employers are particularly
- 3:28interested in making sure that their
- 3:32employees and their beneficiaries
- 3:35have better health experiences,
- 3:37better health journeys.
- 3:39Childbirth is one of the most common,
- 3:43health care events that an employer
- 3:45will
- 3:46pay claims for their employee over the course
- 3:49of their employment.
- 3:50And employers are very focused on the same
- 3:53things that we see in our nation with
- 3:56high rates of maternal morbidity and mortality.
- 3:59And the fact that, unfortunately,
- 4:02that is get has been getting worse over
- 4:04the last
- 4:05decade or more in The United States. And
- 4:07we see when we compare
- 4:10US to other developed and high income nations,
- 4:13our rates of maternal morbidity and mortality
- 4:16are often some of the worst in the
- 4:19world.
- 4:19So that affects
- 4:21employers
- 4:22as well as it does government programs like
- 4:25Medicaid, for example.
- 4:27Absolutely.
- 4:28It makes sense. And and when we're thinking
- 4:29about
- 4:30tackling this this national issue,
- 4:33what does the latest clinical research say about
- 4:36the importance of expanding this kind of coverage?
- 4:39Yeah. So there has been, again, more and
- 4:41more published,
- 4:43literature in well respected
- 4:46medical journals,
- 4:48like Lancet publications,
- 4:49for example,
- 4:51that doulas
- 4:52do have a reduction in preterm births, a
- 4:55reduction in c section rates, a reduction in
- 4:58NICU admissions, a reduction in postpartum
- 5:01anxiety and depression. And all of these are
- 5:04very meaningful
- 5:05measures,
- 5:07in not only outcomes, but also for employers'
- 5:10health care costs.
- 5:12Certainly. So this is expected to improve health
- 5:15outcomes in this space. And I wonder beyond
- 5:17the clinical case, Rhonda, is there a business
- 5:20case here to,
- 5:22do doulas ultimately save the system and and
- 5:25employers money?
- 5:27Well, they take a whole person approach to
- 5:30care.
- 5:31And I'm an osteopathic physician, so
- 5:33team based care and whole person approach to
- 5:36care really does matter. There's very, very strong
- 5:40evidence,
- 5:41in in every area that you look that
- 5:43whole person approach to care and team based
- 5:45care
- 5:46provides that type of not only informational support,
- 5:50but physical and emotional support.
- 5:53And so we're seeing that
- 5:54that advocacy, that coaching component
- 5:57that comes with the doula, the support
- 6:00that you can get during the
- 6:02pregnancy, during that labor and delivery
- 6:05time frame and postpartum as well,
- 6:09which may include
- 6:11your recovery from
- 6:13labor and delivery and also
- 6:15the support you need to care for your
- 6:17newborn.
- 6:18So,
- 6:20this is a very important journey and evolution
- 6:23to take something that,
- 6:25we've been watching very carefully that we have
- 6:28been doing with select benefit plans and in
- 6:31select markets
- 6:32and now
- 6:33scaling it, in a way that only UnitedHealthcare
- 6:36can.
- 6:38No. Absolutely. And it's been fascinating to see
- 6:40the wider industry,
- 6:42really begin to to latch onto this idea
- 6:44and roll it out like we are seeing
- 6:46UnitedHealthcare
- 6:47do this year.
- 6:49Rhonda, how do you see doulas
- 6:51fitting into broader care teams alongside OBs, alongside
- 6:54midwives? How does this all fit together?
- 6:57Yeah. Let's start with this. You know, there's
- 6:59there's always,
- 7:01a concern when you enter a new profession
- 7:04into a care team.
- 7:06You know, is there variation?
- 7:08Right? Are
- 7:09is there consistency
- 7:11in the way that those
- 7:13paraprofessionals
- 7:14are trained?
- 7:16And is there clear role definition? And do
- 7:18we all understand
- 7:20what our role in that team is? And,
- 7:22over the last few years, there have been
- 7:24an increase in training and certificate programs for
- 7:28doulas, and that has improved their focus on
- 7:32medical ethics,
- 7:34boundaries,
- 7:35collaboration
- 7:35with physicians and midwives.
- 7:38And that has really improved the way that
- 7:39doulas are integrating now into maternity care instead
- 7:43of being a separate stand alone industry.
- 7:46Absolutely. And I know it's been interesting on
- 7:48our side of things. We've been seeing a
- 7:50lot of state Medicaid programs really roll out
- 7:52coverage in this space as well. But before
- 7:54we go, doctor Rendell, is there anything else
- 7:57that we're missing on this topic or any
- 7:59other final bits of advice that you would
- 8:01share
- 8:02with, other health plan colleagues around the country
- 8:05looking at similar policies, looking at rolling out,
- 8:08similar coverage in the doula space?
- 8:10Two things. So
- 8:12UnitedHealthcare,
- 8:13through our philanthropic arm, the UnitedHealth Foundation,
- 8:17has been also focused on
- 8:19the concerns that we have with rising rates
- 8:22of maternal morbidity and mortality in The United
- 8:24States. And we've
- 8:25our foundation has been very focused on building
- 8:28that stronger future for maternal and infant health,
- 8:31And, that has included,
- 8:34significant
- 8:35funding in grants, $7,000,000
- 8:37in maternal and infant grants, which of that
- 8:40includes 1,000,000 dedicated to strengthening and diversifying the
- 8:44dual workforce.
- 8:45So that
- 8:47research and philanthropic arm, very important for UnitedHealthcare
- 8:50and UnitedHealth Group of the UnitedHealth Foundation as
- 8:53well.
- 8:54And then from an employer
- 8:56perspective,
- 8:57UnitedHealthcare
- 8:58now will be the first to offer the
- 9:00dual support in employer sponsored and commercial members
- 9:04at this scale across
- 9:07plans nationwide.
- 9:08And so what differentiates us there is the
- 9:10flexibility.
- 9:11Depending on an employer's plan,
- 9:14men most members are going to have a
- 9:15choice of which doula they work with and
- 9:18when they decide to use that doula support.
- 9:21So they can choose any trained doula, whether
- 9:24they're in or out of network. They can
- 9:26choose when they're deciding to work with them,
- 9:28whether it's during pregnancy, during labor and delivery,
- 9:31or postpartum.
- 9:33Wonderful. It's very exciting news, for the industry,
- 9:36I think, overall and, of course, for for
- 9:38the members that you serve, doctor Randall. So
- 9:40I wanna thank you for taking the time
- 9:43to chat with us about this and for
- 9:45sharing your expertise with our audience. We really
- 9:47appreciate it. Thank you.
- 9:49And to our listeners, if you'd like to
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- 9:53can visit beckers hospital review dot com.