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Football at Four: Examining Latest Eagles' A.J. Brown Trade Rumors · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Moscher now from the Inside the Birds podcast is
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  Speaker 1: here on a football at for Monday next week. On Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles are back on the practice field for mini camps,
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  Speaker 1: some voluntary stuff. But Jeff, we are counting down the days.
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  Speaker 1: I guess to June first, and there are some murmurs
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  Speaker 1: that more teams may be involved on AJ Brown. What
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  Speaker 1: does your take of all of a sudden possible teams might
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  Speaker 1: be interested in AJ Brown?
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  Speaker 2: Or is just the smoke screen here?
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of both, But I mean there are teams, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: Now that you're through the big part of the offseason
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  Speaker 4: on the free agency and now that you're through the
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  Speaker 4: NFL draft, teams reevaluate they look at their fifty three.
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  Speaker 3: I thought a couple of.
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  Speaker 4: Teams that could really use a wide receiver were the
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  Speaker 4: Commanders the Rams. We know we're looking at wide receiver
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  Speaker 4: and we're involved in at least discussions on AJ Brown
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  Speaker 4: and some other teams. So I thought Juwan Jennings interestingly
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  Speaker 4: was going to go to one of those teams, and
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  Speaker 4: then Jennings wound up going to I think Minnesota is
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  Speaker 4: where he is, which I thought, yeah, So, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, you still have the Rams still the Commanders.
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  Speaker 4: You're still a couple other teams that I think could
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  Speaker 4: use this third receiver or a slot receiver, or a
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  Speaker 4: receiver like AJ Brown that pushes there one or two
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  Speaker 4: down a wrong And you know, the Texans are a
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  Speaker 4: team that I think can can still. I know they
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  Speaker 4: drafted a lot of guys last year, but the issue
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  Speaker 4: is also that Stefan Diggs and Keenan Allen are still
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  Speaker 4: out there. I think those guys are really kind of
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  Speaker 4: productive number three.
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  Speaker 3: Guys who can come in and help you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it would be interesting. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get your take on you know, a J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody just assumes he's going to go to the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: There's been a wide range of reporting on what they
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  Speaker 1: could get a twenty twenty eight first round pick. I
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  Speaker 1: saw Bouti's uh Kasehawn Bouti's name brought up today as
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  Speaker 1: someone they could give back to Philadelphia a first round
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  Speaker 1: pick in twenty twenty eight. I wouldn't be thrilled with.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe in twenty twenty eight. I might come around on that.
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  Speaker 1: But are you in the same boat where if they
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  Speaker 1: trade AJ Brown, you would like to see them get
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  Speaker 1: them get something back to help this team out.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, not necessarily. Well, I don't think.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's no player that the page unless you're
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  Speaker 4: know you're getting like Christian Gonzales, then I think is
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  Speaker 4: going to help you out as much as you might
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  Speaker 4: think in exchange for AJ Brown, you want the top
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  Speaker 4: commodity and value, and that's going to be in a
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  Speaker 4: draft pick. And that's not obviously going to be uh
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  Speaker 4: this past draft, it will be the future.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the guy that you Christian Gonzales, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine the I can't imagine the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Are all that excitation.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're not doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well tell some of my listeners that.
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  Speaker 4: They're trying to get back to the super Bowl, not
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  Speaker 4: break even, you know, like that's.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: I've been given the trade of AJ Brown for Christian
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  Speaker 1: Gonzales on more than one occasion, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, have you okay, I didn't even realized that I
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  Speaker 3: just threw that out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and I'm like, I don't know what I know.
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  Speaker 1: It's legal to buy nowadays in some areas of the city,
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  Speaker 1: but you shouldn't be using It's between two and six
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  Speaker 1: and then texting.
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  Speaker 3: Me agreed, agreed, that's what's not happening. I'll stop. I
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  Speaker 3: won't do that again either.
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  Speaker 1: One I was gonna say, so, you know, you've got
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  Speaker 1: people all rouled up now, like see Jeff Boucher said
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  Speaker 1: they can get Christian Gonzales.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just just left my local dispensary and I
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  Speaker 4: just had a weird thought.
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  Speaker 1: I got this question right before you came on. I
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  Speaker 1: thought was kind of interesting. We were talking earlier. So
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  Speaker 1: the spreads for all of the games came out for
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  Speaker 1: the entire season. The Eagles are favored in thirteen games
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  Speaker 1: this season, Dallas is favored in eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Games this season, and.
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  Speaker 1: New York and Washington are both only favored in five
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  Speaker 1: games this season. So I thought that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: an interesting kind of barometer on where the Vegas at
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  Speaker 1: least thinks these teams might be. But Philadelphia being favored
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  Speaker 1: thirteen times sounds like a pretty high number there.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Moser, Yeah, I would think. So now now you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have Now I have to do the guessing. I
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  Speaker 4: have to figure out which games they're.
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  Speaker 1: Not going to say so, and that was gonna be So,
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  Speaker 1: which game are they not the favorite. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's five of them?
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  Speaker 4: For of them, I was gonna say that the math
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  Speaker 4: was not mathing there for them Thanksgiving at Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving at Dallas. They are not the favorite.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I will say season finale in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: That is not the season finale. But oh you're right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We wait six week seventeen and.
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  Speaker 1: They are also not favored, and that spread is plus
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  Speaker 1: one and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, cool? Two for two huh.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, man, this is tough. Their road games
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  Speaker 4: aren't that difficult that this year? And this is where
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  Speaker 4: I will have about at Bears on Monday, Week three.
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  Speaker 2: At Bears they are a one and a half point dog.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so three for three huns one more, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Because the Jaguars won thirteen games. Although it's a neutral
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  Speaker 4: field London, I don't know how they're gonna rams Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: at home, Texans at home. Yeah, ah, man, that's tough.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I'm gonna go Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: London, Jackson London. The Eagles are favored by two and
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  Speaker 1: a half over Jacksonville. So there's a different game where
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  Speaker 1: they are well, I mean, I think that's a good guess,
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  Speaker 1: because you're right. I think Jacksonville gets overlooked big time
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  Speaker 1: on the schedule that they won thirteen games, won the division,
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  Speaker 1: and ended the season winning eight straight games. No, they
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  Speaker 1: are not favored. They are actually favored against Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, wow, then it can't be dolled. I refuse to
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  Speaker 4: believe it's Dallas at home.
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  Speaker 2: It's not Dallas at home.
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  Speaker 1: But to keep this in mind, so one of the
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  Speaker 1: games that they are an underdog in is a home game.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting, I refuse to believe it's the Steelers all Rams.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll go with Rams.
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  Speaker 1: They are a dog against the Rams back home in
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  Speaker 1: Week four, So they are an underdog back to back
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  Speaker 1: weeks Bears and Rams, but they are a favorite thirteen
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  Speaker 1: times the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of interesting, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they are a home dog. No, listen, it is the
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  Speaker 1: spreads aer May but these are the preliminary numbers. Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is favored in eleven six of games.
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  Speaker 1: Six times they are the underdog this season, so they
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  Speaker 1: appear that they think this is a two team race
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  Speaker 1: between Philly and Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Do you look at the.
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  Speaker 1: NFC that widespread that it's Philly Dallas here and that
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  Speaker 1: the other two are only favored five times each.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, from a talent standpoint, I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I just think the NFC is gonna East is gonna
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  Speaker 4: offer us something pretty unique this year. I really do
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  Speaker 4: get a feeling it's gonna be a tighter race between
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  Speaker 4: all four teams. And I think I think it's very
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  Speaker 4: possible every team is equal to or better than they
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  Speaker 4: were last year. I think that's possible. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if that's mathematically possible. I think it is, but I think.
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  Speaker 4: I just I think the Giants can make a big lead. Man,
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  Speaker 4: I really do. I could be crazy, but I do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. There was another thing, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: a couple questions that have been coming in here for
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  Speaker 1: Jeff for today, we were asking for kind of NFC
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  Speaker 1: East questions today. Dean in Ocean City says, Guys, of
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  Speaker 1: the four starting quarterbacks in the NFC East, which one
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  Speaker 1: would you want to lead your team over the next
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  Speaker 1: three seasons. I find this question to be interesting based
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  Speaker 1: on Daniels and his injury situation from last year and
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  Speaker 1: whether you would kind of put him in. And then Jackson, who,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I was not the biggest dark guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of changed me a little bit here from
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  Speaker 1: what he did latter. I figured he'd be too small
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  Speaker 1: and would get hurt a lot. He did get hurt,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, but when he played, he was he
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  Speaker 1: was better than I thought he would be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean still's got a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: waste to go, which could happen this year. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he certainly had a good foundation over the next three years. Man,
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  Speaker 4: that's a really difficult question. I mean, I think you know,
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  Speaker 4: you could flip a coin between Jalen and Dak. They're
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  Speaker 4: both good in different ways and good and different things.
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  Speaker 4: But it would not surprise me at all if Jade
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  Speaker 4: and Daniels bounced back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he was just hurt, so so hurt last year.
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  Speaker 3: It was hard to get any kind of I just
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  Speaker 3: get any.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of like gauge on his development because he barely played.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I put I would definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Put Dart fourth on that list, But you know that
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  Speaker 4: could change by the time this year's over.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's another quot that we got for Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff, after Daniel's elbow injury, are you concerned about him
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  Speaker 1: as a dual threat quarterback moving forward because of the injury.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's what happens.
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  Speaker 1: These guys get hurt, then they stop running, and then
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  Speaker 1: that takes away a layer of their of why they're successful.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't, again, only having one year to really
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  Speaker 4: see him, I didn't think he was a bad thrower
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  Speaker 4: of the football or somebody who was so far behind
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  Speaker 4: in the passing element of the game, especially his first year,
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  Speaker 4: compared to his running element. I mean, if he has
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  Speaker 4: the right coaching and the right offense and they give
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  Speaker 4: him a little more weaponry, I think.
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  Speaker 3: He'd be fine throwing the ball a lot more than
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  Speaker 3: running the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Me personally, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: I agree that he is a guy that could throw
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  Speaker 1: the football, but I guess the question is, if he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have the other layer to it, is he as effective?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think, is there a quarterback who
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  Speaker 4: if you took away run, Yeah, I mean maybe Aaron
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  Speaker 4: Rodgers prime Aaron Rodgers. But you're talking about unicorns now,
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  Speaker 4: so I don't see any of the NFC East quarterbacks
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  Speaker 4: right now is unicorns or you know, generational.
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  Speaker 1: Daniels was very good as a rookie. Obviously, last year,
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  Speaker 1: the injuries turned it upside down, but very interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see what they do around him, you know, the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the season. But they are favored only five times here.
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  Speaker 1: The other one is Jackson Dart. Guys Russell Wilson out.
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  Speaker 1: It's now Jackson Dart's team having him start from the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the season. What do you guys think about
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  Speaker 1: Dart's leap in year number two?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think his development will really be aided by
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  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh's coaching style. You know, they drafted Maunoa, and
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  Speaker 4: I love the fact they're gonna play on my right
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  Speaker 4: card right away because they already got a left tackle
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  Speaker 4: was pretty good. They got a big, old, four hundred
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  Speaker 4: pounds center. Their right tackle, Illumino is actually not bad.
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  Speaker 4: He's a pretty good player. So and they're gonna run
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  Speaker 4: the ball, and they're going to use the quarterbacks running
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  Speaker 4: ability a little bit too. And then with Malik Neighbors
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  Speaker 4: coming back and the tight end likely they're gonna play
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  Speaker 4: a raven style of football. So I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna look statistically, but I expect that to be
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  Speaker 4: a benefit. And they have a good defense. They have
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  Speaker 4: good defensive personnel. I've been waiting for them to get
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  Speaker 4: it together. But I mean, like I said, I think
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  Speaker 4: the Giants have the biggest capacity to improve their win total,
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  Speaker 4: obviously because they.
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  Speaker 3: Lost excuse me, so many games last year. But they
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  Speaker 3: have talent. They're not that far to me from.
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  Speaker 4: What the Eagles and the Cowboys have from a individual
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  Speaker 4: talent level.
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  Speaker 1: That's, you know, to me, the Giants are the very
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  Speaker 1: interesting one because you know, I was reading something that
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  Speaker 1: they had leads of double digits in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 1: like five or six games last year.
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  Speaker 2: And those games ended up being lost.
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  Speaker 1: Is ye just think about if those games now turn
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  Speaker 1: into wins for the Giants, how much different of a
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  Speaker 1: season they end up having. And now having John Harball there,
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  Speaker 1: their hope is that they have a guy that can
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  Speaker 1: help finish those games out by you know, managing those
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  Speaker 1: games better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then he added two first round, two top ten
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  Speaker 4: picks to.
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  Speaker 3: That with Rvel Reese.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And now we know I was just doing this random.
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  Speaker 4: I was writing a story for Villy Voice comparing Grenard
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  Speaker 4: to Jalen Phillips, and I went down this kind of
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  Speaker 4: rabbit hole of.
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  Speaker 3: Of pass rushers.
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  Speaker 4: And one thing that NFL Pro tracks is the get
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  Speaker 4: off time for a pass rusher, which is basically the
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  Speaker 4: time it takes to get across the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 4: from when the ball is snapped. And I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how meaningful it is, Mike, let me just start with
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  Speaker 4: that right away. But obviously some of the best pass
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  Speaker 4: rushers had really good get off times, like Miles Garrett
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  Speaker 4: was among the top, and you know, Nick Benito, I
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  Speaker 4: happen to notice that Abdul Carter's get off time was
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  Speaker 4: like two point thirty nine seconds, and that was almost
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  Speaker 4: a full second faster than some of the better pass
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  Speaker 4: rushers in the league. I was almost shocked by Mike
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  Speaker 4: to read these names and see what it was. What
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  Speaker 4: was going on there. So they got talent?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Giants, I remember having you know, we're having these
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  Speaker 1: conversations in May, and you know, when you're having May
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  Speaker 1: football at four as you're talking about a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that are not gonna happen until five, six months
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  Speaker 1: down the road. And one of the things I remember
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  Speaker 1: last year talking about is the Giants play the Giants
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a pain in the ass last
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  Speaker 1: year because we had talked about all the defense of
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  Speaker 1: outside edge rushing talent that they had kind of compiled
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  Speaker 1: over the years. The problem is none of us really
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  Speaker 1: maximized to what they kind of envisioned.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think, of course not.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they've all yeah, they just haven't had an
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  Speaker 4: adult in the room. They've been mismanaged, they haven't had
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  Speaker 4: good depth which they've worked on this all season, signing
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  Speaker 4: a lot of depth pieces. At some point, it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: come together. I know Eagles fans every time I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: the Giants think it all like, you know, stop, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but at some points, just like Washington two years ago,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how much of a laughing stock were they
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  Speaker 4: for decades before all of a sudden one quarterback gave
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  Speaker 4: them a twelve and five record. Now for the Giants,
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  Speaker 4: not even about one quarterback. I mean, they've been stockpiling talent.
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  Speaker 4: So it's gonna have to manifest at some point.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jeff Bosher football for here, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: look at the NFC kind of leading into this offseason,
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  Speaker 1: and then the Eagles will get back on the practice
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  Speaker 1: field after the weekend. Here one other question we had
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  Speaker 1: what had to do with Christian Parker transitioning to Christian
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  Speaker 1: Parker's new scheme. How much do you think that helps
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  Speaker 1: Dallas and against Philadelphia, and could that be something that
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  Speaker 1: makes this division up in the air.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the one thing about scheme is that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and Vic Fangio came in here and did a great job.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time Vic Fangio came here, they
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  Speaker 4: gave him Cooper to Jane, they gave him Quinya Mitchell.
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  Speaker 3: They gave him three really good pass rushers.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Bond came out of nowhere right to become an
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  Speaker 4: amazing linebacker. So they had the combination of scheme, talent
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  Speaker 4: and a little bit of luck and a guy like
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  Speaker 4: Bond just all of a sudden blossoming into that.
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  Speaker 3: So Dallas now has the scheme. Do they have the
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  Speaker 3: same amount of talent? I don't see that yet, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they're.
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  Speaker 4: Improving it, they're getting better, but they don't have the
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  Speaker 4: pass rushers on the edge that the Eagles have.
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  Speaker 3: They traded Ozeki Doa, Odiggi Zua. You know, they don't
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  Speaker 3: have Parsons anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes, they have Quinn Williams, but their secondary has
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  Speaker 4: to come together. I think they're off ball. Linebackers need
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  Speaker 4: to come together a little more.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: I think the scheme will help. The coaching will help.
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  Speaker 4: But I can't put them on like some kind of
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  Speaker 4: great level like the Eagles were for the last three years,
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  Speaker 4: until I see that their talent actually really becomes a
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  Speaker 4: plus level talent.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Football four powered by the Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 1: podcast and of course Memorial Day weekend here Eagles will
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  Speaker 1: be back on the field on the twenty sixth. All
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  Speaker 1: week next week, Eagles back out there. We'll see any
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  Speaker 1: sign of aj Brown. I guess he got married and
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  Speaker 1: nobody showed up.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't invited. That's why I didn't show up.
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  Speaker 3: I would have brought a nice gift.
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  Speaker 1: I bet you would get fruit basket, all right, No,
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  Speaker 1: no dispensary leftovers.
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  Speaker 3: You know I'm a good gift giver at weddings.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, nice, nice.
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, we'll see you, see you, but Jeff
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