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OG Tone It Up Girl to TikTok Lore: Hannah Brown on Community, Values & Real Talk with Karena · Tone It Down

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We're here, toned it down, and not aspirational.
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We're sharing this podcast, Little Calabby,
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for the first Why Not Wins Day, and a very long time.
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I kept getting text messages from my friends
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who are on TikTok, and be like, are you okay?
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Like, what's going on?
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Did you see this TikTok?
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So I went on there, and I binge watched.
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I was like, she's good.
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She needs to be an investigative reporter.
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So we're going to have a conversation.
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I'm actually like freaking out right now.
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Truly my dream come true.
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What do you think, like, made toned up
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such a success in the early days?
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Authenticity.
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Like, we literally were friends who met at the gym,
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and had a passion for fitness.
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Making fitness accessible to women in a way that was like fun,
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and like, girly and silly, and not like this serious,
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like, gay-kept kind of vibe was really special.
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Are you down to play a little TIEU themed game?
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It's called Feel the Burn.
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And it's inspired by all the times
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I felt the burn during a TIEU workout.
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Having another surprise.
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Yeah.
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There was this rumor that TIEU,
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you weren't actually one of the people who started it.
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You were hired as a Craigslist model.
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Can you clear this up, please?
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And welcome back to another and tone it down Tuesday.
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Oh my gosh, this conversation today
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has me like sweating in the armpits,
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like literally sweating in the armpits,
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but I'm not even gonna give too much away
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because I love this conversation with Hannah Aaron Brown.
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You may know her from the TikTok toned up lore.
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We tell the story in this podcast.
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It is a Wine Up Wednesday podcast,
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but it's coming out on a toned down Tuesday podcast.
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We had a really good conversation,
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and we share the story of how we got connected,
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how I reached out to her when my friends were texting me.
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But we discussed so much about toned up lore.
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We discussed about not giving up on your dreams,
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about building something that makes women feel better
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about redefining your relationship with exercise.
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And I know you're gonna love this podcast.
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Definitely made me so nervous filming it,
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but definitely made me so happy filming it at the same time.
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So number one, share this with anyone
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that needs to hear it.
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I have so much gratitude for this community.
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So thank you, and also don't forget,
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you can go to SpeakPipe.com slash Karina Dawn
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to send me your questions.
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Let me hear from you.
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My gratitude is just, I'm so overwhelmed right now,
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doing everything and also just so you know,
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for the toned up app,
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we have a lot of new features coming.
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We are doing another shoot here in Palm Springs,
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where I am right now,
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we're doing that in a few weeks for your summer challenge.
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So, girls, we are back.
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We're here, toned down, and oh my gosh, and not aspirational.
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We're sharing this podcast, little collabi,
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for the first Why Not Wins Day.
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Oh, listen to that.
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I know.
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First Why Not Wins Day is the first time
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I've ever been to a show in Palm Springs.
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I've never been to a show in Palm Springs.
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Oh, first Why Not Wins Day in a very long time.
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Listen, never give up on your dreams, guys,
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because I can't believe I'm doing
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a Why Not Wins Day with you Karina,
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I'm actually like freaking out right now.
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I haven't stopped smiling since we saw each other today.
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Okay, so little backup here.
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Hannah, I met through social, obviously.
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So, you know I'm not on TikTok.
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No.
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And then I kept getting text messages from my friends
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who are on TikTok, and be like,
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are you okay?
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Like, what's going on?
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No, even Afra, Munchool's manager,
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it's like, hey girl, and I called her,
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and she's like, did you see this TikTok?
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And I toned it up the floor.
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I'm like, I don't know.
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And so I went on there, and I binge watched.
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And so did Desiree, who's behind the camera,
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her head of marketing.
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We're like, wow, okay.
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Number one, I was like, she's good.
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Even Bobby was like, she's good at this.
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She needs to be an investigative reporter.
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Oh my God, thank you.
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I know, you did call Bobby, but he's a big fan.
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Oh my God, did I call him a douche?
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Someone, someone in the comments did, yeah.
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But we do have a call to Bobby later.
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No, I can't wait.
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So anyways, after like 20 something episodes,
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I messaged you on TikTok.
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I freaked out.
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You did.
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And I was like, hey, do you wanna talk?
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I was just interested because there's all of these questions
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and so many things that over the years have popped up
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that I have an answer, or maybe couldn't answer.
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And so then we had a secret meetup.
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It was so fun in LA when I was here last time
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and had a glass of wine or two, and brought to know each other.
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It was so fun.
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I was like so surprised and happy to hear from you.
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And also, I was like, what about us
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that she was able to watch like a bajillion videos
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of like me like picking apart everything,
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like you and Kat and tone it up.
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But also like after listening to your book,
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I was like, of course she's brave enough to do that.
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You've done a lot of hard things in your life.
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Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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Yeah, it was a little nerve wrecking,
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but nothing I haven't experienced in all of my life
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or the past 16 years.
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So here we are, because at that time we met for happy hour,
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it's like shall we podcast together?
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So we're gonna have a conversation.
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I'm gonna let you take the reins.
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Oh my God, we're gonna sip some wine here.
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This is truly my dream come true.
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Like I manifest at this, I think.
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Yeah.
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Let's go.
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Okay, can I ask first and foremost,
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a lot of people, when I made these videos,
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there was this rumor that TIEU,
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you weren't actually one of the people who started it.
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Your business partner and her husband started it
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and you were hired as a Craigslist model.
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You have been a fitness model before.
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However, I know the truth,
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but can you clear this up, please?
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Yes.
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So the Craigslist rumor was our first employee
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was hired off of Craigslist.
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So the first time I heard that rumor was years and years ago,
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how me and Kat didn't found the company together.
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There was some rumors of private equity
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wanted to create, tone it up.
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It is completely false.
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And then there was other rumors
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that I was hired on Craigslist.
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So when you put that on TikTok lore,
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I went to my attorney of 16 years ago.
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I'm not gonna say his name,
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but he is the attorney for Kendrick Lamar.
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He was back then.
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Oh wow, yeah.
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And I messaged him and I was like,
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can you send me the articles of organization
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for tone it up in 2009?
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And he immediately within 30 minutes
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was like, no questions asked.
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Here you go.
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That is gorgeous.
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So you have it in print.
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You have proof that you are a 50, 50, 50.
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Hell yeah.
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No one else.
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Hell yeah.
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I will show you.
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I can't wait to see how I'm like,
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these ancient texts are not ancient.
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Not that long ago.
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What do you think like made tone it up
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such a success in the early days?
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Offenticity, like we literally were friends
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who met at the gym.
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That's the other thing.
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We actually met at the equinox in Manhattan Beach.
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I was newly single, moved from Marina Del Rey,
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to Manhattan Beach and was just working out all the time
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while getting ready for shoots and stuff
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and she was a trainer there.
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And we met and just became friends
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and had a passion for fitness
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and wanting to really offer something to women
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that could make them feel better
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and that has never changed.
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Or either of us.
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Through the years.
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Damn.
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When did it like click?
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Was there a moment where you guys were like, holy shit?
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We've like created something really special
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that's growing like insanely fast?
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Or was it sort of like baby steps
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and then one day you were like,
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you looked around and you're like, damn.
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So we were in the beginning of YouTube
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and Instagram wasn't even around yet.
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I don't think, right?
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Yeah, I think it came in like 2012.
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Okay, so three years in.
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Yeah.
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So with my background,
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I was traveling the world as a triathlete,
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a host, sports and fitness modeling,
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certified trainer, all these things.
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And then she was on YouTube
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with another company at the time.
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So she actually introduced me to YouTube.
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I was like, isn't that like a music platform?
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I was like way back in the day.
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So we just decided to start making music videos.
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So we decided to do music videos.
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But like they are music videos to watch them a million times.
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I love them so much.
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I mean, I also feel like just making fitness accessible
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to women in a way that was like fun and like girly
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and silly and not like this serious
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like gig kept kind of I was really special.
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Yeah, and that's important to point out
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because myself even to this day,
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I'm a little clumsy, a little awkward.
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I'm not that like same.
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And that's okay.
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Yeah.
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And so you shouldn't be made fun of for that
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or just if I work out and when I do, I want to have fun.
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I want to enjoy what I'm doing.
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I want to do it with friends,
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even in the trailer for Toner Down.
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I mentioned how like the best conversations happen
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before and after the workout.
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And that's how it's always been for Toner Down.
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And I think it finally clicked within like a year
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where women were like, wait, I want to have that relationship.
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I want to make friends through fitness
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because that's our similar interests, right?
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So meeting new friends through fitness is great
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versus, you know, especially now getting older.
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Having like a common interest.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's what I love to do even in Austin.
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So I think you want to meet up at the gym.
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Do you want to go for a walk on Lady Bird Lake?
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It's just a nice way to get together with people.
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I love that.
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Yeah, I feel like being able to laugh through a workout.
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Like I mess something up, like be able to laugh at myself
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and have fun.
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Like I felt like that energy.
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I hadn't seen it in other fitness spaces
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when I first found you guys.
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Like I was like a P90X girl.
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And like I love and light to Tony Horton.
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It was intense.
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I did do P90X also.
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Who was the other one through Beachbody, Charlene Johnson?
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Yes.
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Did you do turbo jam?
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No.
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Should I try it?
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Yeah, I mean, this is like 20 years ago
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that she probably put those out.
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But I loved P90X's freaking crushed me.
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But hardcore.
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They're still toned up moves though
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that like I would say I'm more fit now
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than I was in like 2014.
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But like there are certain moves that you guys do
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where I'm like, I can never do it.
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Like a burpee, like I can't.
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Oh, I don't do burpees anymore.
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I don't do jump tucks and I don't do burpees.
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I don't know how to do them.
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I've never physically been able to do that.
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How?
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Yeah.
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So when did you find toned up?
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I think like 2014, 2014.
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Like I just graduated college
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and my big sister showed me to you guys.
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Should you guys to me?
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And I was like, oh my god, this is amazing.
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And then I just was obsessed.
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Why?
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I looked up to you guys a lot.
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Like I felt like you guys had this like really cool
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like big sister vibe where I was just like,
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oh, I want to be like the fun bubbly girls
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who like living California and wear like cool gym outfits
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and like have fun working out.
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And also like I had never had a relationship to exercise
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that didn't feel like it was like a punishment
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or like seeking out a certain appearance.
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And like, yeah, obviously you guys are snatched like
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but it was more than that.
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It was like increasing your mood and yeah, connection.
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Like all of that really resonated with me.
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Yeah, I mean, and we're talking so long ago.
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Well, almost a decade that you discovered toned up.
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I feel like there was a shift.
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I mean, obviously we love looking great
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and feeling great.
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Yeah, you know, the aesthetic, but also for me,
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as I've gotten older, it's more about like how you feel
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mentally, but we didn't realize or weren't talking about it
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back in the day of like, why do I work out?
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Oh my gosh, how do I feel in those endorphins?
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I think that was kind of the thing that we didn't realize
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because we were so young.
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Not only did we like to feel good,
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but mentally it just made us like have so much energy
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and creative.
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And so there's so many different aspects
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that we've learned over the years of why we work out.
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Yeah, and making it like accessible to people like the fact
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that I could move a coffee table out of the way
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and get a workout in was like that was special.
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Like you didn't have to buy a million things of equipment
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to like be able to do all the workouts, you know?
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Did you ever have imposter syndrome, like as an entrepreneur?
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Because you find it toned up when you were what, like 27?
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Yes, 27.
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That's so young to be like, oh, I just casually owned this
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like multi-million dollar brand.
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Well, I mean, it took a while to build.
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I think one of the things for me,
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always even with like the big silence
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which we can talk about is it's always purpose driven
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and never financially driven.
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But when I was a kid,
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I always was like open it like doing yard sales
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or having a kitchen in my basement
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where I would make mud into mud pies
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and serve it to my parents.
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Like I always was like doing something
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or after school I would have teaching curriculums
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and teach to my imaginary students.
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I love that.
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We will still do that.
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Like am I crazy?
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I would like to talk to my, I imagine me
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in my basement in Indiana.
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Yeah, after school with a chalkboard
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talking to my students and like, am I crazy?
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No, you were literally,
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but you were manifesting your life now
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which is like you're a public speaker,
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you're a leader, like all these things.
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Yeah.
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Are you into like astrology?
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Have you looked into that?
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I'm not hugely, no.
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I'm an Aries, can you tell me something?
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Oh my God, oh my God, about being an Aries.
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Well, I'm a Leo, so we like vibe.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I don't know a ton about Aries.
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I'm married to one too.
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How do you?
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But I feel like Aries get shit done.
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Like when you guys like decide to do something,
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you're like, get the fuck out of my way, I'm doing this.
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I would say for me, I am not afraid of a challenge.
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You know, my background, you know, growing up
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and been through it all already.
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Like what could be worse?
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I'm not afraid of something not being successful
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of someone judging you.
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I mean, we were just before recording.
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We sometimes people judging us can hurt.
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But yeah, you're a human, it's okay.
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Yeah, I've got that fire in me for sure.
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Hell yeah.
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Is there like a piece of advice that you would give
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to young entrepreneurs who are maybe afraid
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of like taking a big swing the way you did?
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I know we'd go back to what I just said.
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Like take the risk because what do you have to lose?
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Back then we didn't raise any money.
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I feel like in today's world, a lot of brands
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raise money and build the brand
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and then try to build community
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where we were always, let's just build a community
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because this is going to be fun.
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I mean, we are even like, we could on YouTube
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get some like Google ads.
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Yeah, it was like never, it was just like,
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let's do something fun and bring people together.
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And it's a very different world in people building brands,
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say there's a nutrition company,
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they build the nutrition company
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and then try to spend money on marketing and ad sales
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to expand that.
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And we never did that.
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And even to this day, still not doing it.
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I probably should because it is a different world these days.
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But yeah, it's always just going to organic.
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That's so cool.
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Well, Anne, I do feel like TIU girlies, like we stick around.
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We want to know what you're up to.
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We're like so invested in the brand
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because we found you during like formative years, you know,
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which is really special.
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I have a question for you going back to TikTok,
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which I know you're not super active on.
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I'm going to get there yet.
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Yeah, just wait.
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Okay.
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I'm going to start dancing.
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Yeah, please.
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We need it.
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But like there are so many,
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maybe see this on Instagram too.
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There's so many social media trends around like women's fitness
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being like, you have to do Pilates
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if you want to be built this way or like lifting makes you bulky
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or like running spikes to your cortisol.
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As someone who's like been in the wellness space for so long,
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what do you think about all of that on the internet?
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I think you do whatever makes you feel good.
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For myself, I've gone through phases of being a triathlete.
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Even Bobby has been signed up for an Iron Man
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that he's doing in April.
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I'm like, I'm good.
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I'm good.
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Even today he texted me this morning.
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He's like, I signed up for a 10K in Austin on April 12th
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or something.
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You want to join me?
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I was like, no, no.
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We're like, love you, babe, but good luck.
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You know, I've gone through my triath on stage.
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I've gone through my yoga stage.
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I've gone through lifting.
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I've gone through hit.
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And I'm currently in my walk and weightlifting stage.
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And then of course, meditation, which is really important.
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I did that this morning.
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I feel like I'm in LA right now and I lived here for 20 years
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and then I'm back where I get very anxious being here.
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And so this morning I had to sit myself down
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like this little candle and just breathe.
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So I'm in my strength, walk outside, meditate stage.
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That's a gorgeous life.
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How long have you been meditating for again?
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Gosh, I introduced it to tone it up about in like 2019 maybe.
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We didn't have it in the app at first
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because some people thought it was like two woo-woo.
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But now it's like so mainstream.
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But I've been doing it for probably 15 years.
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That's the thing.
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I feel like you're so ahead of the curve in that way
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because I think also like putting fitness and mindfulness
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together.
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I feel like a lot of other brands just focus on fitness
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or like if you want to look this way,
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you have to do this way.
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It's almost coming from this like restrictive place
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as opposed to like you said, like doing what feels good
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and kind of like thinking and booming as like a gift to yourself.
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Yeah.
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It's whatever makes me feel good and motivates me.
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Yeah, period.
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Are there any like TIEU hacks that like to this day
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you swear by I feel like I want to feel really hot
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for this thing I have coming up?
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TIEU hacks.
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I don't know, bring some up from the old days.
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I'm like, I'm like, I love the five day detox
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and the seven days.
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I know that.
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Those are fucking amazing.
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I put apple cider vinegar in like a huge stand like up
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every day, which is like, I literally feel like it makes me
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hotter.
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I do love apple cider vinegar.
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I was gonna ask, did you have to train yourself to like it
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or did you always like, can I mess with it?
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I was doing apple cider vinegar pre-T at you.
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You're like you're an OG ACV like it was post like meals
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and stuff at that time.
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And I actually introduced cat to apple cider vinegar
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when the first time she did it, she was like disgusted.
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But then you realize it just helps.
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Even when I go to any doctors or they're like,
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do you do apple cider vinegar?
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And I'm like, absolutely, and in time.
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So it just makes me feel good for digestion.
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That's it.
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Yeah, it just keeps everything moving.
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I want to be moving.
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Yeah, it's just going to be moving in all the ways.
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You announced that you bought back toned it up in December.
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How has it been?
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How is this like first month of having that information
19:36
out there been?
19:38
Incredible.
19:39
Ah, my heart.
19:41
I was losing sleep.
19:45
It was a six month negotiation for that one.
19:48
And then the six months prior,
19:50
there was a different deal being negotiated.
19:52
So it was like a year of like lawyers every day,
19:54
which is extremely exhausting.
19:56
So then I wanted to give myself a time to breathe
20:00
because everyone that is close to me was like,
20:02
well, what's your plan?
20:03
What are you doing?
20:05
Like, can I just breathe for once?
20:07
Like, this is so special to me.
20:10
I want to experience this feeling before I announce it.
20:14
So I think it was September.
20:17
That September October, maybe October,
20:21
that the deal was actually done.
20:24
And then I announced it in December.
20:25
Oh, my God.
20:27
That's your major.
20:29
And so in between that time, I was reaching out to all the trainers.
20:33
Yeah.
20:33
Who are in the current New Year, New T.I.U. major.
20:36
And I'm a very shy person, actually.
20:39
And for me to just be like, should I text them?
20:43
And everyone's like, what's up?
20:45
Good to hear from you.
20:46
Yeah.
20:47
And then get on the phone with everyone.
20:49
And then Steph, Tori and China and Christina,
20:53
I was like, you don't have to tell me an answer today.
20:55
You can call me to that fof.
20:58
Yeah.
20:59
And but within 24 hours,
21:01
each of them called me back and were like, I'm so in.
21:06
I hard.
21:07
That mean the first episode of Tone It Down,
21:09
I like made my heart so happy to just hear all of y'all
21:11
like keaking together.
21:13
Yeah, it was so fun.
21:14
And they flew out to Austin to do the shoot.
21:16
It was like time had not passed.
21:19
And actually, China and Steph are coming here tomorrow
21:22
to do a longer version, solar versions of the podcast.
21:25
Oh, my God.
21:26
Yeah, you probably.
21:27
I can't wait.
21:28
I'm a subscriber, obviously.
21:29
No, I can't wait to listen.
21:32
So you founded the big silence, too, like podcast foundation.
21:36
It's also the title of your memoir.
21:39
What was it like shifting from being like smile?
21:41
You kind of talk about this in your book, too,
21:42
being like the smiley girls on the beach
21:44
and then kind of pivoting to being just this very open,
21:47
vulnerable, mental health advocate.
21:50
I felt like it was necessary for myself
21:54
to be more authentic to myself.
21:57
Because in founding Tone It Up,
21:59
we had a discussion of no one can know about your past.
22:03
There's such a stigma around it.
22:05
And then I was just feeling icky, not being me.
22:10
And I'm like, well, if I'm going through this
22:12
and feeling this way, and I experienced this,
22:14
who else within the community or outside the community
22:18
who wants to be a part of it is like, wait, me, too.
22:21
And it was another scary thing.
22:23
I do a lot of scary things.
22:26
And it was actually incredible once I released the book,
22:31
which took me five years to write.
22:33
Yeah, because I was doing a billion other things, too.
22:35
And so many people came forward.
22:38
And even still, audio book came out.
22:41
People keep coming on me, like, oh my gosh,
22:43
my brother, my sister, I am this way.
22:45
And I was like, this is coming full circle.
22:48
And as I grow the importance of fitness, mental health,
22:53
physical health, meditation, everything,
22:55
I think it's something that we need to openly discuss
22:57
with each other so that we can live our fullest life.
23:01
I agree.
23:02
And also, if the like mission statement of tone it up
23:05
is to empower women, I think you being open and vulnerable
23:08
is empowering women in a different way.
23:10
Because you're making it.
23:11
You're removing the stigma and the shame.
23:13
You talk about it, too.
23:14
I was listening to your podcast, stay with your dad.
23:16
Oh my gosh.
23:17
He's so adorable.
23:19
Oh my gosh.
23:20
You're going to make his day.
23:22
And I think, I don't know if it's that one.
23:25
I was on a walk today.
23:26
I was just listening to your podcast,
23:28
something you were talking about going on medication
23:30
or something, and your new therapist.
23:32
How's that going?
23:33
Oh my gosh, obsessed.
23:34
Cryed immediately when I saw her face
23:36
because I was like, I just need someone to talk to.
23:38
But it was the best.
23:39
Yeah.
23:40
I think it's important you talk about it, too,
23:42
and there's no shame in whatever is going on.
23:45
I'm like, yeah, some days I'm like, give me those nits.
23:49
Yeah, hand them over.
23:51
I mean, it's also interesting how the fitness and wellness space,
23:54
how those conversations have evolved since 2009.
23:57
And we're like back then, I think it wasn't talked about as much.
24:01
And so I can understand why, like, as a fitness brand,
24:03
it was like, well, we don't really need to go there.
24:05
And now it's like, I think it just adds to the experience
24:08
of investing in you as a founder
24:11
and everything you have going on.
24:12
And it makes other people feel less alone.
24:15
Yeah, I love it.
24:17
So you talked about like in your book
24:19
and like on your podcasts, growing into yourself,
24:22
and getting better at sort of like establishing boundaries,
24:24
like in your life.
24:25
And I was kind of curious, what has that journey been like for you,
24:28
like in your personal life and as a business owner?
24:31
I had no boundaries until 2017.
24:36
We both had to just, like, side take that in.
24:38
Living life without boundaries, without saying no,
24:43
without being like, this isn't healthy for me.
24:45
This isn't what I want to really do.
24:47
So then I am anxious.
24:49
So then there was someone in LA that I've worked with,
24:53
Gwen Dittmark, and she's just amazing.
24:56
And I worked with her for initially six months
25:00
before going on the tone up to her.
25:01
Because I was like, I'm about to embark in something major.
25:05
I need to know how to set my boundaries,
25:08
how to structure my time, how to be out there
25:10
and do what I love.
25:11
Because when I'm going on stage or I'm speaking
25:13
or teaching a workout or doing a podcast, I love it.
25:17
But I need to give myself permission to then be like,
25:20
I'm going to go in there.
25:22
Yeah, rechargers.
25:25
And for so long being an introvert,
25:28
and that's the other thing that's changed a lot
25:30
over the past, like 15 years,
25:32
is that being an introvert is not a stigma anymore.
25:35
Have you noticed that?
25:36
I know we're a powerful community.
25:37
And you can be outgoing and still be like,
25:40
but I'm an introvert.
25:41
Yeah, I love you.
25:42
I love being around you.
25:44
But now I'm going to step over here, don't take that.
25:46
Personally, this is the boundary that I need.
25:48
But I know that I am here for you.
25:51
And back in the day two, some of the tone of upper treats,
25:55
I had heard people were like,
25:57
Karina's such a bitch.
26:00
I don't know.
26:01
I was like, well, this is told to me by someone else.
26:03
I'm like, really?
26:04
I was like, I'm shy.
26:06
Yeah, those are very different things.
26:08
Yeah.
26:08
And I've learned over the years I'm not shy.
26:11
I'm reaching out to you on TikTok
26:13
and like, hey, Hannah, I want to meet.
26:15
Like, yeah.
26:17
So I'm very, I'm reaching out to trainers.
26:19
I, you know, over the years, I've, I've worked on that.
26:22
I think just with my childhood and everything,
26:24
I became very introverted.
26:26
So I've worked on loving the extroverted.
26:30
Isn't there a new word now, too?
26:32
Is there, I need to find out what's the new word,
26:34
where you're like, both the or true, or true.
26:39
I'm making a word for her.
26:41
I'm totally making that up.
26:43
No, there's like an actual term now.
26:45
I don't know.
26:46
I'm like, we'll find it.
26:47
We'll find it.
26:48
We'll claim it.
26:49
But what about you and boundaries?
26:50
Like, what was your, I'm still learning.
26:52
And that's part of why I'm like crying in therapy
26:54
is because I like grew up around like a lot of people
26:57
pleasing.
26:58
And so, what's it?
27:00
Ambovert.
27:00
Ambovert.
27:01
Ambovert.
27:02
Like, A-M.
27:05
Ambovert.
27:06
It sounds like a dinosaur.
27:07
Wait, what's the definition of it?
27:08
Right.
27:10
So, I want to make sure.
27:12
I'm trying to blend traits of both introverts
27:17
who recharge alone and extroverts who recharge socially,
27:20
allowing them to enjoy social situations,
27:21
but also need quiet time to recharge their energy.
27:24
They're flexible, adapting their behavior to the situation,
27:26
and they can be outgoing or reserved as needed,
27:28
making them good communicators and negotiators.
27:31
Oh, my God.
27:32
OK.
27:33
Humble, bragg.
27:34
Humble, bragg.
27:35
Ambovert.
27:37
Here, I'm going to stop saying I'm an introvert.
27:39
Ambovert.
27:40
Ambovert.
27:41
Ambovert.
27:41
Ambovert.
27:42
No.
27:43
Ambovert.
27:44
Oralist.
27:46
We got there.
27:47
We figured, you learn something new every day.
27:50
But yeah, it can be so scary as a people pleaser,
27:53
because that's a learned behavior for me, where it's like,
27:55
my body literally goes into fight or flight, where it's like,
27:57
if I say no, I feel like everyone's
28:00
going to find out that I'm a bad person.
28:02
And so I'm learning how to make boundaries in a way
28:04
that's healthy.
28:05
And also, sometimes making a boundary
28:07
is just being like, I'm disengaging from this person.
28:09
I literally can't do this anymore.
28:11
Yeah, that can be very healthy.
28:13
Yeah, yeah, it's hard, though.
28:16
You inspire me.
28:18
But do you think with you with boundaries?
28:21
Because I know me growing up with a schizophrenic mother,
28:24
and I was people pleasing her forever and ever,
28:27
and that's like how I became like,
28:31
there's no boundaries.
28:32
What do you need, mom?
28:32
What do you need?
28:33
Even the last five years of her life,
28:35
I'm like, what do you need?
28:35
How can I take care of you?
28:36
Let me just spend the doctors of this by your house car.
28:41
This take care of you.
28:43
Hours day, was it something from your youth?
28:46
And I know your dad's going to listen to this.
28:48
He's like, amazing and perfect.
28:50
But was there something?
28:51
Well, I know your mom also died.
28:53
Yeah.
28:54
Yeah, I think it was a lot of like, with love and light.
28:57
Like, I think with my mom, I think I was sort of,
28:59
I wanted to be like, easy for her to parents.
29:02
So I just took my needs and like put them over here
29:05
and like really invested in taking care of her.
29:07
And so it's like kind of a similar dynamic where it's like,
29:10
at the end of the day, like looking back and like,
29:11
oh, but I was a kid who didn't think I was allowed to like,
29:14
have needs.
29:15
And so as an adult, like, it's, my default
29:18
is to just abandon my needs.
29:19
And be like, it's not that big of a deal.
29:20
I'll just figure it out.
29:21
And then you're quietly dying inside
29:24
or resenting people or just things
29:25
that aren't ultimately healthy for you or your relationships.
29:29
Yeah.
29:30
Well, you got this.
29:31
Yeah.
29:31
When did you first start going to therapy?
29:32
Or at the same time?
29:33
I have dabbled throughout my life
29:35
with my new therapist.
29:36
I've only had one session.
29:37
Your dad said he took you when you were like three years old.
29:39
Yeah, because I was having like night tears.
29:41
Oh, I had that five-year-old.
29:43
I literally, like, would like hallucinate, like,
29:45
big, prehistoric bugs on the ceiling.
29:47
Like, I had like a horrible anxiety as a child.
29:50
It's crazy.
29:51
You're like, same girl.
29:54
But yeah, I'm hugely into therapy.
29:57
Yeah.
29:57
But I've also had therapists that like,
29:59
give me like, mad anxiety, who like,
30:01
they kind of try and treat me like a bestie.
30:03
And like, I need like a doctor.
30:05
So I've done all types of therapy.
30:07
And if you need some suggestions that people in LA
30:10
can give them to you.
30:11
But talk therapy doesn't do it to me or for me.
30:15
I need homework.
30:16
I need you to challenge me.
30:17
I need you to give me assignments.
30:19
I need you to give me that permission
30:22
to give permission to myself to stand up
30:25
to someone to set those boundaries.
30:26
But like so much homework that inner child work
30:28
and the writing letters to yourself.
30:30
And that's been the best for me is that type of work.
30:34
I had one therapist like despised
30:38
because she would just be like,
30:39
what do you want to talk about today?
30:41
And I'm like, I don't know.
30:43
And then I had like, talk, talk, talk.
30:45
And she's like, okay, time's up.
30:47
I'm like, what do I do?
30:48
She's like, just change your feelings.
30:50
Oh my God.
30:53
Oh my God.
30:54
What do you mean?
30:55
Tell them like, I want to work on myself.
30:57
That's why I'm here.
30:59
Just change my thoughts and my feelings.
31:01
I once had a friend tell me like,
31:03
Hannah, I'm pretty sure your therapist
31:05
is like that person that a bunch of people
31:06
went to high school with and they go,
31:07
how did she end up being a therapist?
31:09
Like, and I was like, damn, everyone does know someone
31:12
who became a therapist where you're like,
31:13
that's an interesting path for you.
31:15
So I'm glad you found someone better,
31:17
but nothing pisses me off more.
31:18
It's like, if I knew what was wrong with me,
31:20
I wouldn't be here.
31:21
If I knew how to handle it,
31:22
I wouldn't be paying $150 a session
31:25
because insurance doesn't care.
31:28
Anyways.
31:28
So on that note, I'm just gonna throw out there
31:30
with the big silence.
31:31
That's like one of our biggest programs is therapy
31:33
for also we pay, we sponsor therapy
31:36
for those whose health insurance doesn't cover it
31:38
or they don't have health insurance.
31:40
Just throwing that in there.
31:41
As you should, that's amazing
31:43
because it really should be more accessible for people.
31:47
Are you down to play a little game,
31:48
old TIU themed game?
31:50
It's called Feel the Burn.
31:52
And it's inspired by all the times
31:53
I've felt the burn during a TIU workout
31:55
and having another somewhere behind.
31:57
So I'm gonna ask you just some fun burning questions
31:59
about TIU lore.
32:01
Okay, okay.
32:02
Okay.
32:02
How did you get your tan so perfect
32:04
when you filmed those TIU videos on the beach?
32:07
Oh my God.
32:08
So much channer.
32:10
We did not go to a tanning bed.
32:12
That was me when I was in high school.
32:14
Terrible.
32:15
We would do like three or four layers
32:18
the night before shoot
32:20
and then lay in bed in a hotel room.
32:22
Usually we were like in Turks and Kekos
32:24
or Jamaica, like disgusting.
32:28
Boyfriends, husbands, at the time are like, you're gross.
32:32
I was like, God, I do it.
32:33
And then on top of that, we would put like this bronzer.
32:38
What is it?
32:39
My makeup artist friend from 20 years in Anton
32:41
had this bronzer that she would always bring on set.
32:44
And we would just layer that on.
32:47
Like we were thick.
32:48
Oh my God.
32:49
And it never...
32:51
That's what I was wondering.
32:52
Did it transfer? Did it melt?
32:53
It was major because it would take like three people
32:57
to put a sports bron.
32:59
Because you just had to kind of stand there.
33:01
And like raise it over.
33:03
And then yeah, sometimes we put the cream on
33:06
like the other Tanner, the topical layer,
33:08
or whatever it's called after the outfit was on.
33:10
So you'd have to like roll down your pants.
33:12
Don't move.
33:14
Like yeah, it was...
33:16
Yeah, there was not a line.
33:17
Like you guys, like those tans were perfect.
33:20
And it was like the 2010s.
33:21
So I felt like tans were like on another level of the 2010s.
33:24
Yeah, right.
33:25
It wasn't that when like, what is the reality show?
33:28
The Jersey Shore.
33:29
Yes.
33:29
They were tan.
33:30
Yeah.
33:31
That was the five back then.
33:32
Yeah.
33:33
And I still watch those videos.
33:34
And I'm like, yeah, I want to be that tan.
33:36
And I'm like, that the muscles pop.
33:38
And then we would put like sunscreen over your abs
33:41
because it glistens.
33:43
So then you have more of a six back life hack.
33:46
I need to do that this summer because I'm like,
33:47
I'm still working on my abs.
33:48
But if I can glisten, I want to glisten.
33:51
Can you tell us any tea about the tea you retreats?
33:53
And would they ever come back?
33:56
You have to ask me specific tea.
33:58
Okay.
33:59
And then would they come back?
34:00
Yes.
34:01
We're actually planning one in the fall.
34:05
Just small.
34:07
I want to start smaller.
34:08
Okay.
34:09
Okay.
34:10
Okay.
34:11
So stay tuned.
34:12
But and then I want to do more.
34:13
Like one of my big goals is just connection.
34:15
Even like when requiring T.I.U.
34:18
I've noticed how many women are like, thank you for doing
34:21
this.
34:22
Oh my gosh.
34:23
I have my T.I.U.
34:24
girls back.
34:25
My community is back.
34:26
Are you going to do retreat?
34:27
So much like around that.
34:29
Yeah.
34:30
And I for myself too, like our older, it's hard to make
34:33
friends and get together and have fun without the pressure
34:37
or without the judgment.
34:38
So yes.
34:39
And just like be girls together.
34:41
Yeah.
34:42
So fun.
34:43
And with boundaries, like you don't have to do
34:44
everything.
34:45
Like I've got a good retreat coming up.
34:47
And it doesn't.
34:48
I've already scouted out the place.
34:50
It's great.
34:51
Oh my god.
34:52
Okay.
34:53
I have plans in the fall.
34:55
The T around the retreats.
34:57
Yeah.
34:58
Oh yeah.
34:59
Okay.
35:00
Someone commented that you cried at a retreat.
35:02
Were you sad?
35:04
I've seen that a few times where, oh my god.
35:07
Karina, I think it was when Brody Jenner was at the new
35:10
poor retreat.
35:12
Or if I saw him in person, I would cry too.
35:14
He's so hot.
35:15
I wasn't crying over him.
35:17
He actually, that's a different story.
35:20
Anyways, he was like DJing there.
35:22
Like what people don't know and what I can share is that the
35:25
reason I was crying behind Brody Jenner while he's DJing is
35:29
because there was a health scare in an ambulance backstage
35:33
and someone had to go to the hospital.
35:35
That's scary.
35:36
And it was very emotional.
35:38
There was no, like, no other T other than like, oh my gosh,
35:43
this person that I love is not doing okay.
35:46
And they, yeah, that's really scary.
35:48
Oh my gosh.
35:49
I don't blame you.
35:51
I'm gonna see.
35:52
I'm not hired off Craigslist.
35:54
And I wasn't crying backstage for nothing.
35:57
I'm literally so glad we can clear this up.
35:59
Did you ever struggle to get through videos when you were filming
36:02
on the beach in the heat?
36:04
Oh, yeah.
36:05
That's why I don't film on the beach in the heat anymore.
36:07
Imagine being in Turks and Kekos.
36:10
It's 100 degrees.
36:12
And you were at the time still doing burpees and jump squats.
36:16
And back then too, we didn't have it where we would do multiple
36:20
camera angles.
36:21
So you would do the workouts over and over again.
36:24
So you're talking, we would wake up at 3 a.m.
36:28
because you know, glam.
36:29
Obviously.
36:30
Now I'm a little less like glam.
36:32
You look very glam.
36:33
Thank you.
36:34
I mean, it's been 20 minutes versus three hours.
36:36
Yeah.
36:37
Yeah.
36:38
No hair extensions.
36:39
I mean, some day I make about hair extensions.
36:41
I don't think you get beach paper.
36:44
Oh my gosh.
36:45
I'm literally like really exposing some to all these years.
36:48
I was like, they're mermaids.
36:53
Mermaid workout.
36:54
One of my favorites.
36:55
Sharing way too much.
36:56
The time.
36:57
I'm an idiot.
36:58
Of course, they were essential.
36:59
It's okay.
37:00
Keep going.
37:01
I mean, they were great.
37:02
They looked really good.
37:03
Yeah.
37:04
I wouldn't have known.
37:05
Back in the day, it was like clippings or something.
37:06
Do you have your hair is amazing?
37:07
Do you have?
37:08
No, I don't have extent.
37:09
It is real.
37:10
Yeah.
37:11
You got your mermaid hair.
37:12
Thank you.
37:13
It's like this all over my body.
37:14
That's the only thing that's like it's like big toe mustache.
37:17
I know.
37:18
I got to keep it in check.
37:19
But I did your guys's hair tutorial with the curls and your cat eye tutorial, which we
37:25
both have today.
37:26
I always have a cat eye.
37:27
Me too.
37:28
That's my thing.
37:29
I don't care that it's millennial.
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I don't give a fuck.
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Is it millennial?
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Jensy's mean about the cat eye.
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And I'm like.
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There's like brown eyeshadow and creating a big cat eye.
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But with the eyeshadow, it's like oral at the brow.
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I'm like, it's the same thing.
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It's a cat eye.
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Makes me feel sexy.
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Yeah.
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Love it.
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I got sand in your sneakers and was that annoying?
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I don't sand everywhere.
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You're like everywhere.
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Everywhere.
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And it was like showering at the end of the day.
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Shoot day.
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Can you imagine the amount of Tanner falling off the sand, the like stink, Oh my gosh,
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I'm like really do glamourizing.
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It's amazing relatable queen.
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These are the things I never think about though.
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Yeah.
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Aspirational aspects of these videos. Did you feel so powerful when you guys would film those intros like the break a sweat one and the
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DZ daisy one when you guys are like on the little like Ferris wheel
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I was like how fun was that I literally was that footage altered my brain chemistry
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I was like I've never seen cooler people I'm like recently trying to see if those videos are still out there
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Are they on the YouTube? I need to debug the break a sweat intro got cut and I was like maybe that's a copyright thing
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I don't know now that Becky G is massive. Yeah, she was at the Creighton Cultivate event
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I should have gone up to her. I was telling does I was like that's break a sweat Becky G
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We're back in the day. She had just come out and we actually talked to her label and got permission to use it
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Oh my god
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But DZ daisy too that's
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DZ um that you're like dancing on the beach. I was like there's so
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I mean no one in fitness has done that and I still do it a bit too with like marketing stuff and telling a story and
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I love that because I love putting it's like a little mini movie and inspiration of like how you're going to feel yes and
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So much fun so much work went into planning all of that and remember the time we rented a yacht
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I got it. I think that was the same shoot as the Ferris wheel. Oh my god
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Oh, yeah, because you were like you were like running out like across the deck in bikinis
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Probably yeah, I was like you were selling like a lifestyle. Yeah, I've just like having fun
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Being a hot girl living your best life. Yeah, I mean now we're in just selling a lifestyle taking nap
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I mean, that's an important lifestyle as well. I would argue the most important. I'm just kidding and being a palm bomb
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An important lifestyle as well. Shout out to all of your palms seven seven. I was and OG skunky
39:58
She's 15 or 16 now celebrity icons Kong. She is thriving
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thriving bravo reality stars young. Oh my gosh
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You inspired me to watch that entire series again over the holidays. What was a rewatch like for you?
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It will Bobby had never watched ever episode. Oh my god, and
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It was I watched a Desiree like maybe a year ago
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Two and a half years ago. It's a good rewatch and it's so interesting now because I can watch it
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With a smile and like laugh and have fun and have all those memories and
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I've actually had a lot of people come up now and be like you need a reality show again
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I was like it could be fun. Oh my god, bravo. Are you listening?
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Please
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Yeah, please
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We need it. I mean when you and Bobby went on that date on the show
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I was like he's so obsessed with her and it's so cute to see. Okay, that's the other thing on the tone up
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Yeah, we need the Bobby T. It's true. He moved in below me. Oh the day we started filming
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It was I remember the date was October 1st, whatever year
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We had mutual friends and he had a Facebook message me and he was going through a breakup
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He wanted to move from
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Eastside LA somewhere and moved to Manhattan Beach and he's like if anything opens up a two bedroom
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Me and my friend Eddie want to move there. I had lived upstairs had broken up with boyfriend
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So I was single. I stayed there. I had monkey and skunky my neighbor downstairs broke up with her boyfriend
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Moving out and I messaged Bobby on Facebook. He's like hey
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This is apartments available and he's like sounds perfect. This is going to get weird. I was like
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oh
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I immediately we basically like started dating immediately and then
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As we're talking about the bravo show he moved in I didn't even tell him we were filming a TV show
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But there's like producers and everyone in the garage below and he's like what's going on here?
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I was like oh, we're just filming a show
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And you're like what did we just move into because there's only two units
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So we were just there and then basically
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lived
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Together from day he was like down to be on the show. He's like I'll sign that release
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Well, we were on a lunch break from filming and I was telling cat something. I was like I made out with the neighbor last night
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I was like just kissing and
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Stephanie our producer
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Creeped over to our lunch table. She's like what'd you say?
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And I was like yeah, just Bobby the neighbor you've met him. She's like huh?
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So apparently then they go knocking on his door with a release and are saying oh you film
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Oh my god, and he was like yeah, oh my god ladies if he wanted to he would okay, okay
42:46
That's incredible you guys are so cute and it I mean it worked out you're still married to this day
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Yeah, 10 years this year married for 13 years together
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Congratulations. That's incredible. Oh, I love that wait. Oh, there was a chair in your apartment on the show
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And there was sort of some discourse around the chair like oh this chair is like Brian was like this chair is too early
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I don't want it and you guys were like we love it. What happened to the chair?
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I
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Was like so over that chair for then
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Bobby wanted to keep it so he had it in storage for a while and then when my mom
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We got her a cabin up in idle wild. We put the chair there and Bobby's like it's perfect for the cabin
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And then once she passed and we were selling the cabin. I was like just get rid of the chair. It's been through too much
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Yeah, yeah, and Bobby secretly did not get rid of the chair
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He kept it in secret. Yeah, and so it was in storage and then as I was building the toner down podcast studio
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He's like what about the chair?
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He's like aren't you glad I didn't get rid of it
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So now the way painting that's in the show and the chair are in the toner down podcast studio in Austin
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I'm emotional. I have the chills
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That's really special that's T.I. You lore right there that chair
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And it's a fun chair. It is I'm glad we have it Bobby
44:08
Yeah, and I loved I loved your apartment on the show. It was so like beachy and cute
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Yeah, it was very teal
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Yeah, it was very teal
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But that was also like the color of that time. Yeah, it was mermaid core
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Well, it's coming back to I mean I'm coming back to like teal and pings back to your roots. Yeah
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I like took a few years of just like only wearing black, but now I'm I'm getting colorful again
44:29
I love that. It's like a gorgeous metaphor for where you're at in your life
44:32
Yeah, not that you were like depressed before but you're in this like fun era now
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My fun era speaking of
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Close did you get to pick your outfits for all the videos?
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Yes, oh my god. They were all so fire like for the workout videos. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god
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I still strive to look that cool when I workout
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I mean
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I mean like I'm getting back there
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It takes effort though like it's like it's like planning any other outfit where you're like like I like taking the time
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To put my gym looks together, but sometimes I'm like I'm just happy. I'm moving. I can't think about that today
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If I'm just working out by myself, ladies
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I'm not always like style when I go workout. I'm like throw a t-shirt on
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Some sneakers and just workout. Yeah, it must be fun though to be like
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The owner of a fitness empire because you can really rationalize like getting all the cute comfy clothes that you want
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Like that's your work clothes. Yeah. Yeah, which is dope. Yeah
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When it's like time to go to an event or something or you ever like fuck
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I have so many workout clothes anymore going out clothes. I have an exquisite closet
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I actually I'm very artistic. So I love fashion
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So when I get a chance to go out and I do I will dress up and have so much fun with it
45:43
Well, you're outfits and Vegas for so cute as others on Instagram. I was like hell yeah
45:47
You turned out looks for that. Yeah. Oh my god. You need to do like a tic-tac like closet tour
45:52
I'm like can we see it? We need to see it. It's a very eclectic like from vintage to
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Very inexpensive to name brand and luxury brand. It's like a mix of everything
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I always feel like that's like my favorite type of style when there's a little high-low
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Something that's like one of the kind was something you could like go get yourself if you wanted to
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Obsessed
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Quick pivot was it ever annoying or hard to film videos when you had your period
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Not for me, which is crazy. I'd never had cramps
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That's gorgeous. Yeah, I mean it's annoying because it's like uncomfortable. Yeah, like just
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You know, oh my god. You're like I've been through enough. I was blessed to not have cramps
46:33
Obsessed. Yeah, there was an episode of toned up where someone crashed a work trip to I think you were in Hawaii
46:40
Did you know that that was going to happen or was that really a surprise? I did not know oh
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I mean like you never know with reality TV like what's produced and what's not right because some is produced so with the show
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They basically everything that we were already doing
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So I was in charge of like creating the schedule and letting production know
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This is what we're doing for toned up. This is where we're traveling. This is blah blah blah every day
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We were done filming. I was then working and doing
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Prepping for the next day and sending and photo producers and doing travel planning
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It was all really what we're doing
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There's some produced stuff like when we went to a bar in Maui and like I kissed some boy they're like
47:19
Like it's too fun
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Because I had actually done that in real life before because I was single. Yeah, and it was like the kissing game
47:29
So oh, yeah, the kissing game. That's a fun game. I think you can do that anymore, but
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But it was a thing and so then they found this boy and they were like
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Is it okay if she comes over?
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He's like yeah
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That's hilarious. I remember you're watching that scene being like oh my god
47:50
They're like so fun and cool that they're filming a fitness video tomorrow
47:53
And they're still like we're gonna get a drink, but that's the thing we wouldn't have stayed out that way naturally
47:59
That was a lot because like was it because of filming? Yeah, and we had to get like that scene
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Mm-hmm
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What do you normally do like the night before a shoot
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Then or now as they both
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Then go have some champagne
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Now go have some
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I love it you're like I was fun then I'm fun now
48:25
I feel like so much of like fitness culture is like really restrictive and I appreciate that like
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You were always like it's why not Wednesday like you can still be a person
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Yeah, I definitely probably was more restrictive back then in terms of like the nutrition
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And like what I would eat
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Now I'm very
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Just whatever I want to eat. Yeah, but I'm overall just pretty healthy
48:47
But even last night up on the rooftop we had a burger and fries
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But it's not like I'm eating all the fries totally that's the thing
48:54
I'm not like a big food craver
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So you're like I'll enjoy it, but I'm not gonna like think about it all day long. Yeah, it's a good place to be
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Yeah, those are all my rapid fire questions for you where we gonna make a surprise call
49:06
I think we have to do you have oh my god, like what am I gonna say?
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Should I be like Bobby? I swear I didn't call you a douche it was someone in my comments
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You can randomly ask him questions. Oh my god. What should I ask?
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What do we want to know from Bobby? What do we want to know from Bobby?
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Let's see
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Hmm
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What was it like being Karina's hot neighbor?
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Haha, you can just you'll he'll it'll just slow
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Oh my gosh, hi Bobby. It's Hannah
49:49
Oh, my gosh, I love that we have a chorus of Go Invents in the Backgrounds. That's gorgeous
49:54
Your dad
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No, it kind of blends into my life at this point.
49:59
They wanted to make a podcast appearance.
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I have a quick question.
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Well, first day of an apology, because I swear
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I didn't call you a douche.
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Someone in my comments did, but I apologize.
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Well, I didn't even see it, but you know,
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sometimes maybe it could be accurate.
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I mean, you and me both, Gabi.
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We'll have a little moment.
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Sometimes the douchedom has to come out for the greater good.
50:20
My other question comment is, what was it like being
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Karina's hot neighbor?
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Ooh, ooh, that was a interesting and fun time, I would say.
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I would say.
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Interesting.
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Honestly, I have such great memories of that period of time.
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It was like the perfect scenario of living in one of the best
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locations we're in Manhattan Beach.
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I got out of a relationship and was upset about it.
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So all of the sudden, this transition
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was a very, very easy transition from a sad time also back.
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I love that.
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It's like Melrose Place.
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Yeah, it basically was.
51:05
It basically was.
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And you're like, it was very convenient.
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We did not have to drive anywhere.
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My roommate loved it.
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I was moving in with my buddy, Eddie.
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And shout out to Eddie.
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Yeah, shout out, Eddie.
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We split a two bedroom place.
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So I just had to, I had to live with Monkey and Skunk
51:25
at the time when I would go visit Korea.
51:27
Well, I remember a time, because you could hear them
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pitter pattering upstairs.
51:32
And I literally could hear you ping.
51:36
It was like, well insulated to be a check ass.
51:39
Yeah.
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And I was like, you probably could hear me farting.
51:45
But I do remember too that Karina was like, this isn't going
51:49
to be serious, like kind of like, you know, you just got
51:51
a relationship, just have fun in the mountains and whatever else.
51:55
And I'm more of like a relationship person.
51:58
So if I'm, you know, dating one person or dating one person.
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And so I was like, oh, okay.
52:05
And I was like, but you know what?
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Let's venture out.
52:08
I mean, I can just imagine you, Bobby, being like, oh,
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bummer, I'm newly single.
52:11
I guess I have to move into this building
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with like my friend and my hot neighbor, like this sucks.
52:17
And sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater goods.
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Yeah.
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We just, you know, we did what we have to do.
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That's beautiful.
52:24
Thank you so much, Bobby.
52:25
Karina, do you have anything else for your husband?
52:27
No, send me pictures of the palms.
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I love you.
52:30
No, you'll get a lot.
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Yeah.
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Bye.
52:35
Wow, wow.
52:37
I mean, I feel like all my dreams came true today.
52:40
All my TIU dreams came true.
52:43
This was incredible.
52:44
Thank you for starting a turned up lore.
52:47
I've had a lot of fun with it.
52:50
Me too.
52:50
I hope that we answer enough questions.
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I have a speakpipe.com slash Karina Dawn,
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where you can leave other voicemails and questions.
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Oh my gosh, listeners, seriously.
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And everyone who is here because of the TikTok series,
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make sure to hit up Karina with your questions.
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Yay.
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I'll do my best.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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This has been fun.
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Bye.
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Bye.