Latest / Large Nerdron Collider / LNC is Visited by Three Spirits

Transcript

LNC is Visited by Three Spirits · Large Nerdron Collider

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Ner Drunk Collider podcast,
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel cast In, and I am lucky
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: enough to have joining with me after the holidays once again,
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: my brilliant co host, Jonathan Strickland.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: I'm a little beeper.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: You're a little beeper.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a reference. That's a reference to
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: a YouTube channel that I really like.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was like, you mean, like the the device
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: that was used back in the day.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kind of. I guess it's it's like Morse code.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: It was a it doesn't matter. It was just this
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: little phrase that was used in outside Xbox and Outside
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Extra videos back in the day. I'm a little beeper.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: First of all, welcome back everybody. We took a week
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: off for Thanksgiving, but we warned you about it, so
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: you've got no one to blame but yourselves.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're back. Did you have a good holiday?
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: Did you have lots of good food?
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: I had lots of good food. I spent it with
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: my folks and my partner and my dog and we
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: all had a grand old time and then we came
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: back to home. We came back home and.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Fell asleep, which is pretlightful.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because one of the things we noticed
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: that you know, Ariel and I chatted about this during
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week, is that probably because of Thanksgiving, Apple TV
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: pushed out that week's episode of Pluribus early, like it
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: usually comes out Friday night at like nine pm Eastern,
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: but it was already up by Thanksgiving Day, and I
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: didn't notice until Thanksgiving Day because I saw clip on
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: YouTube that was a scene from it. I was like, wait,
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen I thought it was going to be
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: a section from what episode I had already seen, but
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: as it started playing, I realized like, oh wait, this
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: is I haven't seen this. That's when I saw that
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: the episode had already gone live. And I thought, originally,
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving, we'll come home, we'll take a nap, and
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: then we'll watch Pluribus. But instead, after Thanksgiving, we came home,
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: we took a nap, and then went to bed.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, that is perfectly reasonable and logical.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't actually watch plur of Us until Friday,
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: although we did see it a little earlier than nine pm,
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: so we did watch it a little early. But we'll
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: talk more about that when we get to the stuff
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: we've seen. How is your Thanksgiving with the multitudes who
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: visited your domicile?
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had twenty people total, including me and my husband,
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, not the biggest year we've had,
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: but certainly not a small one. Really. Well, I always
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: bake for Thanksgiving, and Jonathan and I chatted a little
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: bit offline about like, was I going to be able
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: to get it done this year? Because I had a
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: show Saturday night before Thanksgiving, I had a show Monday
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: night before Thanksgiving, and I had a show Tuesday night
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Plus plus you kept taking on more dessert ideas instead
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: of eliminating dessert ideas.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so I was able to do it, and
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: I was even able to do it quicker than normal.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: I got done baking by one am. Oftentimes I'll be
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: baking till two thirty or three thirty in the morning,
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: and then I'll go to bed, and then I'll get
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: up early for the parade, and then I'll be dead
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: by the end of Thanksgiving Day. Whenever I go to
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: bed round three or four in the morning.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I am a night owl, but I'm
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: not that much of a night owl. I'm kind of
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: like a no time of day nightingale.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Right now, I'm rapidly approaching the age of Yeah, early
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: bird special sounds pretty reasonable to me right about now.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Dinner at three pm and bed by seven, Yeah, let's
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you, I'm gonna put my partner
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: on blast because oftentimes, like when we go to visit family,
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: they like to eat a big meal in the middle
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: of the day and then snack in the evening. And
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: he used to always because he's such an eight out well,
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: he doesn't do that. He doesn't do breakfast usually. He
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: usually does like a lunch and then a late dinner
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: and then snacks throughout the day. So it was hard
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: for him to adjust to. But so many times now,
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: especially on days that we'll sleep in, we'll have like
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: a small snack, do our chores for the day, have
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: a slightly late lunch, early dinner, big meal, and then
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: be like we'll want dinner later, and then we totally
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: don't want dinner. We're just snacking. So yeah, we're our
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: dietary habits at least are adjusting to.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ariel sent me pictures of some of the goodies
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: that she made, and I noted that they look delicious,
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: But I also I spotted a wild crispy in the
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: background of one of them.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, who I met through the Georgia Renaissance Festival.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: How did I?
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? It was the year that I was playing a
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: lady in waiting Amelia Onnaire, whose main goal was to
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: a mass as much wealth as possible. And he came
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: in completely separately as deb Onnaire, and so well, obviously
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: we have to be related. In all season we called
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: each other brother of mine's, sister of mine, and so
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: of course Chrispy's family and comes to Thanksgiving. It's a
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: really good group of people. Someday I'll get you there, Jonathan.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet, but maybe one day.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: I only ended up making I made a bunch of
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: stuff for Thanksgiving, including homemade butter and cranberry sauce and
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: a punch. But the only desserts I made. I made
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: a nutella trifle with berries. I made a chocolate DipEd
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: door and shortbread, and I made key lime pieme ring cookies.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: They all look great by the way.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: They were pretty good.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't make a ding dang darn thing this year.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: I just bought stuff and ate that, and and my
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: mom cooked a bit she made. She made a fried
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: oakraub squash castrole and fresh baked bread, which was crazy good.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: You see that sounds delightful. Also, someday I need to
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: try your mom's squash castle because I love squash and vegetables.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: My husband does not so.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you that I would. I would
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: argue that the squash and mom squash castrole probably constitutes
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: about twenty percent, and cheese is probably the other eighty.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, cheese is is like every food group in
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: one so so good.
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: It's I mean it is like it is decadent. It
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: is not. It is not by any stretch of the
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: imagination healthy, But I actually it does. The squash flavor
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: does come through. It's not like it's not like it's
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: just a conveyor for cheese as much as I joke about.
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: But the cheese does make it taste real good, as
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: does the toasted bread crumbs on the top.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: Nice. I want to try it today. Okay, we're gonna
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: move on now.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: See here's the thing is we've got our super long lineup,
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: but sadly the actual show line up, part of our
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: lineup is not super long. It's a lot of other stuff.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: John Boys, Horror Hutch is fit to burst this week.
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna go ahead and get started. And as
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: we usually do, we like to start with a question.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: And I believe I've probably asked this in the past anyway,
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to do it again, Ariel. We're coming
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: up to the holiday season. We're in it, We're deep
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: in it already. One of the elements of the holiday
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: season is Charles Dickens immoral I'm sorry, immortal classic a
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: Christmas Carol. And there's so many versions of it. There's
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: everything from classic versions to reimaginations to postmodern tellings. So
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: my question to you, Ariel, and I'm going to discount
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: the versions that you are in. What is your favorite
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: version of A Christmas Carol?
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: Well, now I don't have an answer, Geez. There's a
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: really old and we have talked about this, but it
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: does change a little bit. There's a really old version
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: that like one of the like black and white that
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: I used to own and I liked watching because I
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: usually I lean towards one setter closer to the book,
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: you know, and mupp At Christmas Carol is not in
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: my list of Christmas Carols that I like, but I'm
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: going to name two that are not super close to
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: the book. This year I like Scrooged.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: An Awful Lot and then Bill Murray movie.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I haven't watched it in forever, but it
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: popped into my mind this year. An American Christmas Carol.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember that title, but I don't think I've
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: ever actually seen it.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: It starred Henry Winkler, who was a I'm reading this
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: because it's been so long since, like I was like
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire set. I'm from New Hampshire, so of course
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire set Christmas Carol with furniture. I remembered liking it,
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: and so Henry Winkler is a lone shark furniture repossessor
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: in Depression era Concord and then gets so he repossesses
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: furniture and then he gets visited by the ghosts. You know,
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched it in years, so it may not
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: hold up, but that one holds like a little place
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: in my memory. So that's the one that gets mentioned
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: Nice mine as always is Scrooge the Musical, the nineteen
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: seventy movie with Albert Finnie as Ebenezer Scrooge and Sir
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Alec Guinness as Jacob Marley. That is my favorite version.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: It will always be my favorite version unless something better
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: comes along, which I can't anticipate. I love the songs.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're the strongest songs in musical history
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: or anything, but I like life and thank You very
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Much are two of my favorite songs around this time
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: of year. Thank You very Much as my favorite because
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: it's a cheerful song that's all about being thankful that
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Scrooge is dead. But Scrooge does not pick up on
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: this particular detail. It just thinks that people are thankful
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: for him. They don't know, he doesn't realize. It's because
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: in the future he's died and they're glad he's dead.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: And it's one of my favorite dark but cheerful songs
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: like that. I always like juxtapositions like that, Like I
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: love songs that sound cheerful, but if you pay attention
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: to the lyrics, it's actually kind of melancholic, So that
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: kind of falls into line with that. Anyway, if you
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Scrooge the nineteen seventy one, it's good. It
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: is weird. There's like a whole segment, depending on which
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: version you see, there's a whole segment that takes place
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: in Hell with Alec Guinnis in it that is way
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: campier than most anything else in the movie, which really
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: kind of throws things off. But other than that, highly recommended.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: That is a fun version. That is a fun version
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: And do you like the Muppet one?
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Oh? Muppet Okay? So I have a history with the
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: Muppet Christmas Carol. I have been caught on camera saying
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: that it is not a good version of Christmas Carol
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: and that I don't like it very much. I think
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: it's okay. I think it's okay. I don't like the songs.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: I do not think it's a very strong Muppet movie
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: as far as the music goes right, Like I think
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: the music in the original Muppet movie is without you
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: can't touch it like that's the best. And I don't
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: think Muppet Christmas Carol. I think Muppet Treasure Island has
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: better music.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: I agree fully.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: But I do think parts are cute. It is nice
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: that they actually have. You know, Charles Dickens in incorporated
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: into the story, so you get some of the actual
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: lines of the book spoken in the movie, which is cool,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: like that doesn't happen very often, and I like that.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: But I actually don't think Michael Caine does a great
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: job as Scrooge personally.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: It's too nice.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: He just doesn't. Yeah, I think Albert Finnie. I don't know.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe Finny's performance is a little too cartoonish. Probably is,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: but that's just what I associate with Scrooge.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: And that's perfectly reasonable, you know. And I have some
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: of my closest friends absolutely love them up at Christmas Carol.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: It's their favorite, and I am so happy for them.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I did see since we're kind
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: of segue now to what we watched. This is the
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: last time we recorded. One thing I saw was Invasion
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Christmas Carol over at Dad's garage, where they do a
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: staged version of a Christmas Carol, but they have an
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: improviser comes in as a character who has to be
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: incorporated in the story. The improviser's job is to mess
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: up the story as much as they like. Everyone else's
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: job is to accept the fact that this Invader is
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: supposed to be part of the story and continue on
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: as if as if it's supposed to go that way.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: So the night I went, the improviser who came in
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: came in as Apollo Creed from the Rocky movies, specifically
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: Apollo Creed from Rocky four, just before he goes in
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: to fight the Russian, and in his entrance they played
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: James Brown's Living in America and six cheerleaders came down
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: and did a choreographed cheerleader dance as he came down
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: the aisle and joined the stage, and seeing the actor
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: who played Scrooge realize what was happening was one of
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: the best moments I have.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Yet to see Invasion Christmas Carol.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: It's depending on when you go. It can be a
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. A lot depends upon who is picked
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: to be the improviser and what character they choose. Like that,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: A lot hinges on that, but also like I think,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: the year and the cast for the rest of the
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: play obviously that matters a lot too. This year is good.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: It's not my favorite lineup that I've ever seen, but
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: then also I should be fair. We went early, early,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: early in the run, like they had just finished, you know,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: doing the rehearsal process. So really it was almost like
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: a preview night. So a lot of the stuff that
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: struck me as clunky was because they were still tightening
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: things up. And I'm almost certain that in one scene
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: somebody failed to change into the correct costume because there
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: was a moment where Scrooge and the ghosts of Christmas
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Past we're left hanging a really long time waiting for
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: the past scene to unfold, like nobody was coming out,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: and so they were vamping for probably about forty seconds,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: which is I don't know if you've ever been up
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: on stage and had to vamp when something went wrong.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Forty seconds is an eternity.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it sure is. That's terrifying.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thankfully they're all improvisers. So but there was a
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: point where Scrooge literally said, well, so this is painful.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, like even is an
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: improviser though, Yeah, yeah.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: When you're expecting something to happen and it's not happening,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, you can't really move forward without it happening.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that's that's enough about that. Let's talk about.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: It's even worse when you then realize that you're the rea.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know this wasn't the case.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: When you then realize that you're the reason it's not
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: moving forward.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing, the only thing that comes to
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: my mind that I've had happened like that was in
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: high school. I was in a production of Bye Bye Bertie,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: and I had a line that was a cue for
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: another character to come running onto the stage. There was
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: an exchange of two more lines, which would then cue
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: the musicians to start my song, and the other character
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: would run off again. So I give the cue, the
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: character does not run on stage. I don't have anything
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: else to say. I can't say the next line, it
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: would make no sense, so I can't prompt the musicians
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to start playing the song. So we're literally in a
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: holding point, and it only I'm sure it was only
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: like three or four or five seconds something like that,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: but again it felt like forever.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I did that in Once Upon a Mattress
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: when the queen was giving me sleepy time potion and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: making sure I was sleepy. I forgot one tiny line.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why aren't we moving forward? And then they
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: picked up. But then I realized after the it was
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: me and I'm still mortified to this day, and it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: been years.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Well I'm pretty sure, like, because did you only get
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: to play winter Fred the one time? All right, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: saw that performance. I have no memory of that happening,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: so at least to the audience, it was not it
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: was not obvious.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'm still mortified, but I understand. But I wanted you
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to know. Like, and I had seen the show before, like,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: not that particular production, but I had seen Once Upon
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: a Mattress before, and it did not strike me that
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: anyone had dropped a line. So, well, let's talk about
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the stuff we have seen. I assume you're caught up
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: on Pluribus.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, I haven't watched this week's episode.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't come out yet, it doesn't come out,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, fine.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: It come Well, it dropped last night at nine what
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I think Apple sometimes just releases their shows a day
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: early at nine pm.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Really, I did not even notice. I figured that it
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: was nine pm Friday nights. Maybe I'm just mistaken about
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: when it comes out.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: No, it's supposed to come out Friday. But I noticed
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: last night when I was looking up something else on
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: So well, then I'm also not caught up. I've seen
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: that we're supposed to be. Yes, Yes, I'm still enjoying it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: The end of the last episode had a cliffhanger kind
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: of ending, and I'm extremely curious to find out what
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the heck is happening, and I'm I haven't seen anything.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it, but I have a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: sneaking suspicion that there's going to be a slow burned
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: beginning to the next episode, and it's gonna Vince Skelligan's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: going to take a sweet time before telling us what
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the heck she saw.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: He does like doing that sometimes, however, I will say,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: ending it on a cliffhanger, I do feel like the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: momentum of the show is picking up, because I had
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: some friends who are like, well, there's there's not enough
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: plot movement, or it's moving a little too slow for them.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like this past week there was a lot
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of realizations that happened, and they happened in pretty quick successions.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly I like the slow burn but you
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: know that. I mean I feel the same way about movies,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: right I like a nice, slow, methodical build because I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: feel that if you go too fast you can't really
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: sustain it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I agree. And then also my husband
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: said something really great, which is like, if you're looking
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: at this to be a puzzle walk show, I can
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: understand how it might be a little slow for you.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: But if you're just enjoying the journey.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's interesting because the main character
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: isn't particularly likable. I think, like, I mean, that's the point.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: She's not. She's not a very likable person, and she's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: extremely flawed, but you know, you can sort of understand her,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure we'll learn more about her as the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: show continues, assuming it does get to continue. But yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: she's not like the fact that I'm still really interested
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in seeing what happens, but I don't particularly like the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: protagonist that says a lot.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, she's the most miserable person in the world.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: She plays it well. But yeah, Ria Seahorns so talented.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So exactly, So what else have you seen?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I have finished all of Taskmaster UK, exception of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: children's show, so I've seen all of the New Year's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen all of the Champions of Champions, which are brilliant.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I've watched every season. So next is the children's show,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and then New Zealand because our friend Chrispy said that
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: New Zealand is a great series to follow up with.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: He said, if UK is dry humor in Australia is
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: wet humored, then New Zealand is moist.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen some clips of the New Zealand
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: one and they've got some very funny people on.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that'll probably be next there. I have
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: seen only two episodes of Mighty nine, so my watch
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: part was supposed to be watching two at a time,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: but there are forty five to fifty minute episodes. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: then when you add in because I don't pay I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: have Amazon Prime Television and movies because I have Amazon Prime.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Right, but you're not paying extra to get the ad
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: free version.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I feel like the ads have been getting
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: more and more frequent. I had four or five ad
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: breaks watching episode two last night. And I don't mind
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: ads because if you if you want to pay less
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for your subscription, for your subscription to a streaming service,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the ads are what supports your shows. If you want
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: your shows to be made, they have to have income somehow, right, right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Technically there's not getting into like how much executives are
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: paid or whatever, you know, just at a very basic level.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, money has to come in in order for things
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to be made.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you don't want to pay for your subscription,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: ads are the way to do it, right. But it
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was a lot and a couple of them, more like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: four minute ad breaks. And I'm using, but it was
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: close to like netlike old school television. I hate to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: say old school, but where you'd watch a TV show
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and you'd get an ad break every ten minutes or
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: every five minutes. And it felt a lot. It felt
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: like there wasn't enough growth in each scene between the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: commercial breaks and then some of them because we're just
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: basically Amazon got rid of their watch party unless everybody
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: who's watching buys the ad free version. So we all
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just line up, we count down, and we all start
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: our episodes because we're watching from different locations, and so
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: some of my friends watch on their computer and they
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: have ad blockers, so they get through the episode this
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: week like a good seven minutes before the rest of us.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I would imagine that, you know, because
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the ads are dynamically placed that even if
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you started exactly the same time and you both have ads.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that the ad break is going to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: be exactly the same link for each person.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I watched that. But TLDR we were
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to be on like episode four by now, yeah,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and we're on episode two, so I am behind in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: mighty nine. I am enjoying it. It is much more adult,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: yeah than Vox Macna, just because of the antics that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: one of the characters gets up to and where she starts.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm enjoying it. It is interesting because we discussed
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it last night, and because they're starting at kind of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like a session zero level, and they're also putting in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: some information about the politics and the main crux of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the story early. It's hard to care about the politics
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and the main crux because you aren't discovering it with
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the characters.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Right well, yeah, it's it's tricky too, because like if
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: it's if they are characters who have no like like
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a history in the world that you're setting it in,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: then they already know all the things, right Like, they're
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: not discovering it. It's to them it's normal. But you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: still have to educate the audience about the world and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: how it works and you know, if there are political rivalries,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: who the different parties are and all that stuff.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, so the villain has already been introduced.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: They were introduced in episode one. The Bright Queen has
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: already been introduced, and so we're getting all of that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: which didn't come in until like many episodes in in
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the actual play. Yeah, but again, because you don't have
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the character's investment in that story, it's harder to be
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: invested yourself. Also, at the end of episode two, Ford
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and Jester have found each other and not in Caleb
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: have found each other because they both have history coming
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: into the game. But that's it. Like, we still haven't
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: developed the party yet, so it's a little slow. I'm
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: enjoying it. I know I will love it, but it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: just getting there. I also watched all of the first
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: chapter of the last season of Stranger Things, and that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was fun. It did amp up and maybe it's just
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: been long time since I watched Stranger Things. I felt
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like it was a little bit more tense intense than
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: previous seasons. But I did enjoy it. I knew I would,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: so Yeah, so that's good. There's some fun stuff in there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the next chapter. And then I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: watched the first episode of VIP Very Important People on
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Dropout for this season, and that was that was something.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I gotta say, Like I saw a trailer for season
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: three and the makeup and costume department have like, seriously,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: they were already doing amazing work, but they have upped
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: their game.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah they have this first This first episode is I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: guessing they show them in the trailer in order because
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the first episode is with Rakus Schunkar as a hot
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: dog nice the mother hot dog. So it was a lot.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: They usually start with like their weaker episodes and then
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: build to the stronger episodes throughout the season. I almost
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: said series, this is not They're not the UK Aeriel.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: So Raka did great. She was very funny, but I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: could tell that it like the through line wasn't as
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: strong as with some of the other improvisers.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So gotcha is that it?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: That's it?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Okay? Well for me plarvis obviously, Harley Quinn I finally
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: finished season five, which which may or may not be
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the final season for Harley Quinn. Last I heard they
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: were still kind of negotiating a season six, and as
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: we will get into in this episode. A lot of
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: that stuff is kind of kind of up in the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: air at the moment. No big reason Warner Brothers Discovery
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: getting bought anyway. I also went to the theater the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Teatra and saw Wake Up dead Man, the Knives Out sequel,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: which I thought was very entertaining. I felt like ben
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Wa Blanc wasn't in an enough Oh really wow? Yeah, No,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost an hour in before he
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: really is a factor at all. Like there's so much
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: set up. It's good, don't get me wrong, and the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: characters are interesting and everything, but also so my partner
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: said that she felt the protagonist was given a ton
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to work with the protagonists not being ben Wa block
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: but like kind of like the Maid or I'm sorry,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the Caretaker in the first Knives Out movie, or the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: spoiler alert sister in a Glass Onion, but the in
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Wake Up dead Man, it's a priest, a young priest
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: who's been assigned this small to be an assistant to
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: a priest in a very small parish and in upstate
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: New York. So a lot of time is spent on
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that priest and his relationships with the people in the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: town and more particularly with the main priest of the parish,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: played by Josh Brolin.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I agree with her that a lot
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: of time was dedicated to him and not as much
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: time to anybody else, And that's kind of an issue
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: because you don't really get to know a lot of
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the people. But everyone does a great job anyway, like
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Andrew Scott does a great job and Glenn Close is fantastic,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Like everyone does a really good job with their role.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: It just felt like the script was what was not
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: serving everyone equally well but still really well done, still
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a fun mystery. Still, you know, I don't think it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: quite as quite as as compelling as some of the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: other as Knives Out was, but I still really enjoyed it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I am continue doing the Book of to Darry, even
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: though I think it's getting dumber, and maybe I am too. Yeah, No,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it's They've introduced a setting called the black Spot that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: is actually referenced in a few Stephen King books, but
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: specifically in it, and I believe maybe in The Shining
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: as well. But Dick Hallerin is the common thread between
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: those two. Dick is the character who gives the Shining
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the name. The Shining says that's why his grandmother called it. Anyway,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: In Stephen King lore, the black spot is a place
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that black servicemen establish so that they have a place
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: they can drink that's not in the town of Derry,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: because people in Derry can be real racist jerks, so
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: they kind of have their own little juke joints set up. Well,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: this juke joint eventually becomes targeted by white supremacists in
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Darry and burned down, And the imp in cation I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: always had was that there's a decent amount of time
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: between when it's established and when it's burnt down, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: welcome to Dary. It looks like it's targeted the night
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that it opens, so it has not been in operation
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: very long. I guess I'll find out for sure this
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: week because that's when the follow up episode happens. And
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: then I also watched the first season and a half
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: of Slow Horses. It's the Gary Oldman show. Yeah, he
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: plays a spy. I really like it a lot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I just every person is allowed to age however they want,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and that's fine, But it is the show that I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: realized I no longer have a purely esthetic crush.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: On Gary Olman. I mean, he does play a stringy haired, flatulent,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: rude as heck m I five agent, and I love him.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I love so much.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I would still absolutely adore to just like sit down
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: with him for a week and take an intensive on
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: character acting because he's still just I feel like, so
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: one one of like a handful of actors who just
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: is able to absolutely completely disappear into a character.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and his characters can be so different too,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Like you look at him and Leon the Professional and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: he's so unhinged, you know. Or there's so many different
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: great movies he's been in.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I've never seen Leon the Professional.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Oh really wow. Okay, well I don't recommend it. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: don't it's not for you, Ariel, Okay, it's very upsetting,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: but his performance is like he there's no scenery that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: goes unchewed. And then I also watched the first snow
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: at Fraggle Rock, oh because it was already out. And
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: we'll be talking about that trailer later, but we can.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Take the trailer off if it's already out.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean, I'll say this, it's worth watching.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: It's very cute. I will also say that I have
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: not watched Fraggle Rock since the original run of Fraggle
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Rock back in the eighties. So there were characters. I
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, I don't know who any of these
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: characters are, and that was kind of interesting. But they're
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: all like supporting characters. Nothing like nothing that made me
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: left me scratching my head. But I will say it
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: feels it feels like one of the most Jim Henson's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: style things I've seen in since probably the Electric Mayhem Show.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It feels like that nice.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Oh I saw that Center for Puppetry Arts here in
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Atlanta is getting the Charlie Chaplin Kermit statue.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the twelve foot tall kermit statue that was
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: in front of Jim Henson Studios in California because the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: studios is really cool. The studios are relocating, so that
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: statue is going to go to the center. I saw.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I read that too. I did not. I didn't have
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: anyone from the inside telling me, but I found out
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the way the way you did. I saw the headline.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool. Any you watched a lot
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of really cool things and more cool things than I did,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And now I will actually have to watch slow Horses
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: because you're the second person who's telling me it's good
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and I should watch it?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Is it? I think I told you already that the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: first season commits the plot. It's not a sin, but
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it does something that I get, really, I really get
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: tired of in the Mission Impossible movies, which is the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: threat is always coming from inside, Like it's never an
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: external threat, it's always an internal threat. Like and I'm like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you built the house that's trying to kill you. You
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: created the problem that you have to solve. I'm like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: can we please see something where you're reacting to an
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: external problem? And when I say you, I don't mean
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: necessarily the characters, but either the the organization they belong to,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: or like a sister organization, like another intelligence organization that's
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: also under the same government. I just get tired of
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: those stories. So the first season, I mean big spoiler there,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I guess, but the season of Slow Horses kind of
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: deals with that. It's revealed very early on that that's
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: what's going on, but it's still really frustrating.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And it's also not like we're several seasons in.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Now, so yeah, oh yeah, it's I think they've done
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: like five or six and I've only started the second one.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I have like three episodes into the second one.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I thought it was two or three, but so that's wow.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well let's move on to thirty seconds
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: or last. Now that we're thirty five minutes into the recording,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: am I first? I can't remember?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: You are first?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: You're okay?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Talk about the thing that I swear we're going to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: want to talk about.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll probably have to circle back on this,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: but here we go. After a chaotic bidding war, Netflix
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: has emerged as the potential future custodian of Warner Brothers
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Discovery in deal said to be valued at nearly eighty
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: three billion buckaroos. Netflix beat out Paramount and others, though
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the deal must first pass regulatory approval. Meanwhile, everyone from
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: DC super fans to movie theater owners are wondering how
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: this merger will affect the future where we see even
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: more of a turn towards streaming.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to stort back on this, okay.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Not that I have in stur information, I just have feels.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Disney's Utopia two came out this past week, I think,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and it has earned five hundred and fifty six point
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: four million dollars in its opening weekend alone, this is
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the biggest debut ever for an animated movie and the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: fourth biggest opening of all time of any movie. So
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: that is huge and awesome.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Wow. As we record this episode, Wicked for Good has
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: earned more than four hundred million bucks worldwide, and when
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: numbers like that, it should come as no surprise that
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Universal desperately wants to expand this into a broader franchise,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: with discussions around film and TV possibilities. I got a
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: great idea, what if we made a movie from the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: perspective of the young girl from Earth who is pulled
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: into Oz.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Ooh ooh, or when she goes back to Oz later
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I mean countesses like things with wheels for feet.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And we and we electro shock the heck out of her.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I love Return to Oz as a creepy, creepy movie.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I would definitely watch a remake of it, although the
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: original is so perfect. Okay, sorry, happy feels Okay. Sony
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: is making a new I guess they're going to make
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: some movies off of a book series called Hierarchy, which
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I had never heard of before, but apparently it's a political,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: magical Roman Empire style story. It actually sounds like it
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: might be fun. I just don't know thing about it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But if you like the Hierarchy series by Oh Gosh,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: what is his Name? By James Islington, do I say
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that right? Then? Yeah, you might be gained some films sunny.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: As far as I know, you said it correctly well
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: in our first Scarlett Johanson story. Today, the actress is
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: signed on to star in Mike Flanagan's Exorcist film. The
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Exorcist is a movie with a franchise that's abound as
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: confusing as DC at this point. Flannagan's film will not
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: follow the garbage pile that was The Exorcist Believer, but
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: instead will be an all news story set in the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: quote unquote universe of the original Exorcist movie.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Interesting. She's also in final talks to join The Batman
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Part two. I don't know as who. The Batman is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: one of those movies that I think has a great
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: cast and horrible, horrible pacing, So like, this isn't strong
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: enough to support a slower than Blade Runner level pacing.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: For the record, I like the first Batman movie, The
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Batman Movie when I watched it, and I haven't rewatched it,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: but I will say that as time went on, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: liked it less. That doesn't mean maybe I need to
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: rewatch it and see if it really holds up or not.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I did really. Ariel and I differ on this, but
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I really like that version of the Riddler, all right.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I just like I like the classic cheesy version.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: That's all. Yes, I know, I know it's it just
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't fit well. So you're not a Quentin Tarantino person.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Then you heard about that this week, right, it's not
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: on the it's not on our lineup. But Quentin Tarantino
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: absolutely dragged Paul Dano through the mud in an interview,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: called him the weakest actor in sag Oh wow. Yeah,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: not not super cool there, mister Tarantino. Maybe maybe you
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: need to look at some foot pictures and calm yourself
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: down a bit.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: But he's also said some some things that have not
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: aged well, but I won't get into that here.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah. I don't obviously that the
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: campy version of the Riddler would not have fit in
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the tone of the Batman movie. But you could have
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: just gone with a different villain in that case, like
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: it could have been Victor zazz you know, something like that. Anyway,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the video game series Far Cry is ready to make
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a stealthy leap to television. Noel Holly and Rob Mack
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: formerly Rob Mcalenny will Helm and Mac is also going
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: to star in the project. Barcry typically follows a protagonist
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: who dumped in a hostile environment that is under the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: control of a powerful and frequently disturbed antagonist. The series
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: is going to be anthology style, with new casts and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: settings for each season.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that Rob mcalinny was going by Rob Macnow,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: what is the world?
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: He legally changed his name this past summer.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: How did I miss that? Oh?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: My goodness, to be fair, I learned that today too.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Also, I did not read that article prior to this,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and I had to while you were talking quickly send
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it over to my husband, who enjoys the far Cry
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: games or has enjoyed some amount of the far Cry games. Okay,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Tom Rader is getting a live action series as well.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: We know that it's already starring Sophie Turner as Laura Croft.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Now we know that Martin Bob Semple is joining the cast.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not super familiar with his work. Apparently he's in
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the CW's all American Homecoming, but.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Cool your I love your insight and analysis all right. Well,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: now that it lost out on the bid to acquire
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a Warner Brothers Discovery, Paramount has some other big plans
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in the near future. The company's twenty twenty eight slate
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: has a live action teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a Sonic The Hedgehog sequel on it. The TMNT film
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: won't follow the Michael Bay produced live action films of
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: a few years ago, nor will it go super dark
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and gritty, So if you were hoping for a really
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: gritty teenage mutant Ninja Turtles movie, it ain't happen that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: The og live action Ninja Turtle movies, I think we
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: said this in our last episode really hold up. They're
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: super fun and super well done. But honestly, I rewatched
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the Michael Bay one Michael Bay movies halfway and my
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: husband put them on in the background for like mindless watching.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Even though I think the plot is a little weak,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like they really got the personalities of the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Turtles right in those movies, and so I still had
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: fun with it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I only watched the first one, and I remember thinking
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: it was surprisingly okay. Because I'm not a Michael Bay fan.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I don't like Michael Bay movies typically.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not it's not the end all,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: be all fantastic, but it was a fun movie. Yeah,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: if you could get past some of the weird human
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: hybrid turtle faces. And I'm sorry, I don't have more
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: insight into Tone Rader. It's just not a pot property, guys.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I assigned that story to you. I'm
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: just giving you the business.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Like I've watched the video game, the newer video game
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: one time, halfway through. That's that's the extent of my
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: tomb Raider experience. I've never seen the old movies. I've
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: never played the games. Fair enough, Sophie Turner, I think
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: will be an interesting casting choice. It's not a look
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: that I typically associate with tomb Raider, but I like
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: breaking outside of the norms and the stereotypes. So total yeah, Okay.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Noah Sentino is joining the Gundam movie with Sydney Sweeney
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: that is being made by the creator of Sweet Tooth.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: So when they say by Jim mikel but when they
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: say like Sweet Tooth, I know that Robert Downey Junior
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and his wife were producers on that, So that's what
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: my brain very first went see.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: My brain first went to this idea of the two
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of them just meticulously painting a figurine for two hours.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past them. Noah Centini Sentinio is
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: also going to be in the new Street Fighter movie,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember us who because I forgot to
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: write that down.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Well, Activity is about to get all paranormal up in here,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: because there's yet another Paranhole Activity movie at development, this
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: time with producer James Wan, who's known in horror circles
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: as the guy behind the Insidious and Conjuring movie franchises.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: He's going to be a joint production between Paramount and
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the newly merged Blumhouse Atomic Monster. This will be the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: eighth film in the Paranormal Activity franchisees Wooko.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: From James Wand to James Camerwan now to James cam
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: He came out to say that he thinks that AI
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: actors are horrifying and that generative AI is not great
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: for creatives. This came on the tail of him praising
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: motion capture performances in his movies. I do think that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: there was a very vast difference between MOCAP and then
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: having the artists put a CGI character over that. That
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is a difficult thing to do all around to pull
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: off and AI. I've been kind of shut in freuda
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: enjoying the videos of AI actors where they are getting
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: directed in an audition by a casting director or director
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and they cannot take the direction. There's just because AI
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: is an aggregate of existing information, so none of their
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: performances are going to be original, and none of their
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: performances are going to have the spontaneity of a real actor.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I am glad that James Cameron is falling into that boat,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: along with several other directors. It makes me happy and
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: gives me hope for the world.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. In twenty twenty four, Rolling Stone published an article
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: titled Dance with the Devil, which detailed Sammy Davis Junior's
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: relationship with and I'm not making this up the Church
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: of Satan. It's actually a really good article. Now that
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: story is being adapted into a horror movie, which is
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: weird considering that the articles not a horror article, but
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Leslie Odom Junior a gay Aaron Burr in the original
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Broadway cast, Pamilton is adapting the article and will star
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: in the picture.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And then lastly for me but not for Jonathan. Netflix
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: has released their yule logs for this year, and this
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: year it is K Pop, Demon Hunters, Stranger Things, and Wednesday.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: So just creepy eulogs if you don't. If you don't
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: like regular yule logs for your holiday present opening, that's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: when I watch a yulog. I put it on in
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the background when I open presents. I don't know if
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that's when everybody else does zul logs. Yeah.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of a dirty tiger hanging out
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: while presents are getting open.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That's not what you're getting. You're getting like this weird
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: like purple Stonehengi thing.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: But I bet Derby Tiger shows up at some point.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Last year was Squid Game, spell Bound in Bridgerton, and
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sad that I missed the Bridgerton one because I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: thought that would be real, lovely.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Well in news that broke shortly before we were set
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to record. Sony has hired Chris Bremner to write a
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: screenplay for a new Men in Black film. No word
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: yet on a director or casting, which is probably a
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: good thing because they just hired the writer for the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: ding dang darn thing. So let's get some characters in
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: there before we start shoving actors into the project, shall we.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Also, I want to go back to get some more
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: industry news real quick. Sag Aftra and Innimacy Coordinators have
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: made like an agreement, so now Intimacy coordinators under sag
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Aftra officially.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Well, and then you also mentioned that you have thoughts
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: about Netflix, Quarner Brothers Discovery.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like I have friends talking about this last
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: night during the group watch because they're like, well, Netflix
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: will cancel shows the same week that they release them,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: which is not quite true, right, Like they're they're looking
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: for two metrics usually, which is how many people initially
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: watch it, and then how many people finish episodes and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: finish the series, and how quickly they do so. But
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they do have a reputation for canceling things very quickly.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I would say more quickly than HBO Max or Warner
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Brothers Media or any of that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: H I don't know. Zaslov has got he's got a
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: butcher's arm on that chopping block he.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Does, but it's usually before people get to watch it.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Now, that's true. Usually it's usually it's when the product
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: product hasn't even been totally finished yet, and then it
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: gets asked for tax purposes.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: But I do hope that they keep some of the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Netflix has such a big catalog. It's the biggest problem
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I have is it's hard to find things, sure, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: then I get like and their their interface changes all
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the time, so it's hard for me to find the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: things I want to find so I can remember to
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: watch them, which is why they don't at least get
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: my tick as somebody who watches because I can't find
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it and then it's not top out of side, out
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of mind. I hope that at least for like the
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: DC stuff, they keep movie releases and not the small
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: releases like with Frankenstein and the not Chronicles of Narni
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but like actual big releases, because
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy those, and I've really, I really enjoyed
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: seeing both Fantastic Four and Superman. It brought me back
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: some nostalgia of going to the theater with a bunch
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of people who enjoy it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an understandable amount of concern in the movie
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: theater world that Netflix taking over Warner Brothers discovery means
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: that we'll see even more films going direct to streaming
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: or very shortly going to streaming after maybe an extremely
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: limited release. Like the big fear is that a lot
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: of films will just get a limited release in markets
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: like New York and Los Angeles and the rest of
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the country, let alone the world will have no opportunity
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: to watch the stuff on the big screen, and then
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: you just have to wait for it to come out
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: on the small screen. And while I totally understand the
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: convenience factor of being able to watch stuff at home,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: and I don't like I watch a lot of stuff
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: that way, like I will forego going to the theater
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: in many cases. I almost did it for Wake Up
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: dead Man, but I was convinced to go, and I'm
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: glad I did. I don't think that Wake Up dead
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Man is the type of movie where you have to
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: see it on the big screen, but I enjoyed the experience.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that Netflix, assuming that this deal actually goes through,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: because it does have to go through the regulation, the
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: regulatory process, But assuming this deal goes through, I do
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: hope Netflix will continue to release movies theatrically in a
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: broad release uh, and I hope that it's not so
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: disruptive for a lot of the projects that are going
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: on right now. Like you know, that was one of
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the things about that we knew there was going to
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: be a deal for Warner Brothers Discovery, we just didn't
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: know who it was going to ultimately end up being
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: until today. And there are still other questions like does
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: this mean James Gunn is still safe heading up the
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: DC side right or is that going to change? Like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: we don't know. You would hope that Netflix would say, no,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: this is working, let's continue doing the thing that works,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: but you just don't know.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I hope that they keep them there and not I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: mean part of it, I was going to say, not
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: just we, but part of it is selfishly, James Gunn
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: is committed to creating content in Georgia, which is great
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: for me because sag Aftra has in the late in
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: the most recent negotiations done away with regional local actors,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: which means that if you're not within a certain mileage
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of the city that they're filming in, you don't count
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: as a local actor unless you have a residence in
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: that city. So like if I had a residence in California,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I could claim to be a local California actor as well,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: but because I don't if they're only looking for local actors,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. But it used to be that
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I could be like I am within five hundred miles
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of North Carolina, so I am a regional local actor
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: because I can still get there in a reasonable amount
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: of time from my home. That's no longer the case.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: So when I hear people like James Gunn saying this
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is a great place to make television and movies and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I'm committed to doing stuff here that makes me happy.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Netflix also films a lot of stuff in Georgia.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, Stranger Things is a great example.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is a wonderful example. So so from that aspect,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful. I just I hope they can figure out
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: a good balance, because I know streaming overall is still
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out a good and profitable balance.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a hopeful. Like I will say this, as
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: uncertain as everything is, the one thing I am certain
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: of is that there's a better chance for things to
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: be as good or better than they are now without
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Zaslov calling all the shots.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know Zaslov so I can't say, but I
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: trust your experience.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I'm saying this not as not as someone who actually
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: directly worked for well, directly it's too strong a word.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Way down the chain. I worked for Zaslov. I'm not
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: saying that as someone who worked under a company that
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Zaslov was leading, but rather just the decisions that have
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: been made over the past like four years, you know,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: like seeing what has happened with the merger of Warner
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Brothers in Discovery, seeing entire projects like you know, Batgirl
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: getting axed before there's any chance for people to see them. Like,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing that I'm hoping h is
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: laid to rest once the deal goes through, assuming it does.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I say that without even knowing exactly what David Zaslov's
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: role would be. I don't know if he would stay
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: with the company and lead the division or not. I
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: did not see that in the article. It may have
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: been buried in there somewhere, but I was I was
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: reading for the salient points and may have missed it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it'll be it'll be interesting, Yeah, it will be.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Entertainment is entertainment is always an evolving market.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: So that's just and like it's weird because when I
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: was a kid, there weren't that many big mergers in studios.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: So for a long time, I just thought that the
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: studios were kind of these monoliths that all came into
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: being around the same time and like, you know, the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: twenties through the forties, and that they had remained unchained, unchanged.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: But if you look into the history of any of them,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: they are the most confusing stories because of governance and
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: change of ownership and all this stuff, Like companies that
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: used to be called one thing get turned into something else,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and then like a company will change but keep its name,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: but it'll be effectively an all new company. Like it's
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: just weird stuff. So so as weird as it is
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: right now, I can I can say with all honesty
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: it's kind of always been that way in the world
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: of entertainment.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which can be a good and a bad thing.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Let's let's go into like the stuff that is coming
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: out that we can maybe look forward to, because stuff
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: that doesn't fit is our first section. So I don't
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: know how much you're looking forward to.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: The Oh no, you're you're wrong, Ariel. I think I
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: think we renamed it into calling it things that we
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: might watch even though they're not actually genre, so we
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: don't actually put them in the real lineup. So this
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: is where they go. Now that's the section.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I thought we changed it to. These are these are
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: somebody's geek geekyom for everybody, But this is shoot. I
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: was going to try to match you for your wittness,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: but I didn't write it down, So this might be
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: geeky for some zims, but not for everyone's.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Well. First up, we have a film adaptation of a
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: play from the nineteen sixties. The play is called Dutchman.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: The film is called The Dutchman.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a play.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. This was a play written by Amiri Baraka
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: who had just gone I think through a divorce and
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Amir is a person of color and had written this
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: story about a black man getting on a subway who
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: is then approached by a white woman who is using
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: various forms of intimidation and manipulation humiliation to mess with him.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: And as I understand that the entire play just takes
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: place aboard the subway train fact one in Act two
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: and spoiler alert, it has a very dramatic and tragic
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: end for the protagonist, and then the cycle begins anew
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: where she approaches another young black man. But it's an
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: allegory for black white relations and for politics in the
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixties in particular. So the movie is taking a
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: lot of those elements but expanding beyond. Like it's not
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: it starts maybe on the subway, but it expands way
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: beyond that and involves a lot more other characters.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It it honestly looks like a really good psychological thriller,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: much better than what I originally thought it was about,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: which was a ghost ship.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: So fair enough because like that title, right, the Dutchman,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: but in the original Dutchman was referenced because of Slaver ships.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: So that's why it has like this element with the
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: black white relations and everything. Kate Mara is playing the
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: white woman in this, and she looks like she's wickedness incarnate. Yeah, yeah,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Like you don't want to mess with this woman. She
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: is going to turn your life upside down and inside
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: out and you won't like where it is when she's done.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of character she's playing. Like, like I
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: was like, wow, I didn't know Kate Maara had it
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: in her to be Liss Villainous.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it also stars I think Elvis Hodge plays the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: main character, and then Zazzi beats Is in it as well,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: who I absolutely love.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this comes out January tecond Yeah, so this looks
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: like like it's it looks like it's going to be heavy. Initially,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: the way the trailer starts, it almost feels like it's
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: going to be a genre film because it feels like
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: it might have a little sort of matrixy science fiction
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: element to it. But it's all because it's allegorical, not
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: you know, it's dream like and not meant to be
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: taken as a literal, you know, unfolding of events.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Next we have Leon the Professional.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Too, well kind of Yeah, Shelter I wrote it is
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: a very typical Jason Stathan movie of him stathaming all
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: over the place.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I mean that is also accurate. He does stath them
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: over a lot of things in this movie, but he it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So I had said earlier, I've never watched Leon the Professional,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: but I know it's about a professional kind of hit
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: man kind of person and a kid, and this has that.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, slightly slightly different, but you know, because like
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: in Leon the Professional, Leon is a very simple person
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: who kind of lacks guile. He's extremely good at unaliving people,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: if you want to put it that way, killing people.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: He's a very great professional killer, but he's he's not
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: very sophisticated. He's not a very sophisticated person or a thinker.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: And then he runs into a very young Natalie Portman
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and is protecting her. Things get weird in that movie.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: It's also a Luke Bassan movie, So, depending on your
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: opinions of Luke Bassan, take it all with a grain
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: of salt, but shelter. It's Statham is playing a former
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: assassin who's kind of living out a life of solitude,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and this girl slash young woman, depending on how you
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: want to think of her. She's really young, so I'd
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: say girl is bringing him supplies and then she accidentally,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: as a result of this, gets pulled into chaos because,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: as we all know, when an assassin retires, the thing
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: that follows next is whatever organization employed the assassin beforehand
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: has to make the decision of taking out that assassin
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: now because they know too much or whatever. So the
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: problem is that they forgot Oh that's Jason Stathum. If
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: we try and do that to Jay and Stath. We
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: all get deaded real fast. But they forgot so they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: tried to Jason Statham, so he then deads a whole
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: bunch of other people while trying to keep the young
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: girl safe. Yeah, that's my summary of the movie. Also
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Bill Naise in it.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I do love Bill Naii. I am more interested in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: watching The Dutchmen. It might be a little too schmecksy
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: for me, but I am interested in the story of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: the Dutchman, more interested now that it's a play.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Shelter definitely feels way more like a run of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: the mill Jason Statham action movie. Like there's been so
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: many of those recently too, right, like The bee Keeper
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: and I forget what the other one was, where he
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: like he's like a landscaper or whatever, working man maybe
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: that's what's called. And now Shelter. They all have a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: very similar feel to them. This comes out January thirtieth.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like you could take all those those
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Statham centered action films, shuffle them up, put them in
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and not you know, skip the title screen, and it
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: would take you a while to figure out which one
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: you were watching.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to give you an idea, of about how old
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the young girl is in the play. She is playing
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Margaret Dashwood in the upcoming twenty twenty sixth Sense and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Sensibility movie Teenager.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so shelters out January thirtieth. Moving on
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: to the next one, which is Mother Mary.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: This is a I was kind of surprised you didn't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: put this into the horror Hutch.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know that this is. I think it's more
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: of a psycho sexual thriller.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, maybe, but it also has to do with
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: it feels like it has to do with like possession, So.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's well, maybe it's hard to say. I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: think that those are like dreamlike elements. Yeah, I mean
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: there is, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like, I don't know if
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that's literally happening in the movie, like
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the whole like Ouiji board stuff and all that kind
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: of thing. But I get the sense that that's not
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: a major part of the story. But I could be wrong.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what I view the story as is that there
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway is a singer who is estranged from her
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: friend who is a costume designer.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fashion designer.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Fashion designer, but then needs an outfit for a concert
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: or a new song or something like that, and they're
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: at odds. And then there's like Ouigi possession stuff in
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: the trailer and I can't tell if it's real or not. So, yeah,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's what it is.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more about the fact that Mother
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Mary is the character Ann Hathaway's playing, and Sam, which
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: is the character Mikela Cole is playing. She's the fashion designer.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I think it's about how Mother Mary and Sam had
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: this massive falling out and the manipulation that goes on
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: between the two when Sam realized that Mother Mary needs
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: her and so Sam's the one who got left right,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: So Sam is the one who feels wronged and hurt.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: So now she's going to inflict control and pain on
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Mother Mary because she feels that Mother Mary deserves that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: for the betrayal that Sam feels right Like that that's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: what I get from this, And then the Ouiji stuff
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I felt was almost a distraction, Like I don't maybe
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: it is does take more precedence in the actual film.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: It could, and maybe there's way more to this than
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: I thought, But I felt like this was more of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: a like you could have cut that stuff and it
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have made it any difference.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about watching this one.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I think I'll have to wait for the reviews.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly like, I think that the actors are
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: acting their butts off, but it's come across kind of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: this is my opinion. In my opinion that I am
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: not an actor. But in my opinion, it feels like
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: there being a little melodramatic.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might it might be. It might be the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I it's like a pop pop thriller, so that might
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: just be the style.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Could be. Yeah, this doesn't really look like it's my
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: thing either. I would put this up with like not
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: as stylized maybe or stylized in a different way. But
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I think of like Last Night and Soho, which I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: was intrigued by but never sat down to watch, as
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: the Eggor Wright movie with my girlfriend Ania Taylor Joys
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: in it. She doesn't know she's my girlfriend, Please don't
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: tell her. We also got a trailer for a TV
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: series that is based off a nineteen eighty nine comedy
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: with Tom Hanks in it.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I was wondering that it was like the Bird The Urbs.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: That sounds familiar. It's a tiny, teeny tiny trailer for
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: the TV show The Burbs coming out on Peacock.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, Peacock.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never watched The Urbs with Tom Hanks.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: So basic story is that you've got the suburb, very
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: normal suburb with lots of you know, quirky, not quirky,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: but like people who have different little personality quirks or whatever.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: And then this very strange family moves in and they're
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: very private and creepy and kind of they seem a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: little backwards to the rest of the suburb, and everyone
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: just suspects that they are murderers and like it's and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: it quickly escalates into absurdity. In the movie version, it's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: a dark, fairly dark comedy, dark by nineteen eighty nine
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: standards anyway. So this is a TV series that is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: taking that same kind of premise, that has Keky Palmer
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: and Jack Whitehall in it, along with other folks, and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: it comes out February eighth, And yeah, I thought, I thought,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: maybe I will check out the first episode, except that
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: like the stuff that were the jokes in this trailer,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: none of them landed for me, No.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: But I do like Keky Palmer, and I like Jake
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: white Jack Jake white Jack Whitehall and Julia Duffy who's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: in it as well.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't notice that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Julia Duffy's in it. I do love her, so yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: But like the one of the jokes is like, like
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: someone asks a woman a question, she says, do women
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: lack salad before kicking in the door? And I'm like, oh,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: is that the level of joke we're gonna have in
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: this series? Because that might not be enough for.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Me that that's but it's the kind of character that
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: makes that joke. Like when I was watching fou Bar
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Fortune Fimemstar first of all, very popular comic her. Her
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: comedy style doesn't always land with me, but it did
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: feel out of place in fu Bar. It's like, here's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: this serious action show happened, semi serious action show happening,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: and here are these slapsticky type comments being interjected. So
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: it might be that the rest of the show is
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: great and you just don't like this character as well.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Could be yeah, I'll give it an episode. You know,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I've got peacocks, so I'll give it an episode and decide.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: We also got a teaser for the Scrubs reboot Season
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: ten of Scrubs, and it's really brief, but we do
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: get to see JD. Turk, Elliott, Doctor Cox, and Carla
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: in it, as well as the newbies who will be
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the new resident doctors. This starts on February twenty fifth.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I don't have a whole lot to say other than
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: it definitely had a Scrubs feel to it, except everybody's older.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, In like the little social media
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: teaser they released, they looked way older than they do
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: in this trailer. They look pretty good in this trailer.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: At least Zach gra looked way older.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: That's that's what all the makeup and lighting and fancy
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: cameras do for you.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's not what they do for me.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Man. They When I had fancy cameras on me, I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: just I was already big, But it made me look
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: like a freaking balloon like I could have. You could
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: have tied strings to me and dragged me down, uh,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: you know, Broadway, and everyone would have thought it was Thanksgiving.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I'm sorry I liked Scrubs.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: You know you've never looked like a balloon to me,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: but I haven't known you your whole life.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you didn't get to watch like the dailies
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: of Forward Thinking back when I first started.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: It, I didn't. I was a horrible friend.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: No, you were on set, you couldn't have done it.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: But but I'm looking forward to it. I do like
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the fact that it is the same characters, but it's
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: not just but they're introducing new people as well.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a huge fan of Scrubs. I don't
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: think I ever watched. I definitely didn't watch season nine,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: where they started introducing new characters, because that was when
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: they were trying to transition into a different cast. Essentially.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch season nine, and I think I might
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: have dropped off before season eight, or maybe in the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: beginning of season eight, But the earlier seasons were some
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: of my favorite TV at the time.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got distracted. I'm sorry when we were talking
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: about it, because I was trying to look up something
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: about the show and instead landed on the news about
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: that at some point. I don't know if it's current
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: or not. Zach Braff and Florence Pew were dating.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was something that did happen at one point.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Anyhow, I just got very distracted by that. I'm sorry.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I got distracted too, because she's my other girlfriend, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I was real upset.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, you can't just claim all the girlfriends.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, Florence Pugh doesn't know she's my girlfriend, so
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: no one tell her that either. Neither does Ella Pernelle,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: So don't let her know either. Like none of these,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: none of these incredibly talented actresses, who all have extremely
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: satisfying personal lives without meeting them, need to know that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: they are my girlfriend.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait for a fileout this month.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's gonna be great.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I hope, I certainly hope. Which is going to get
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: me through this next section, which is so many horror movies.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so sorry because no, it's okay. Like, here's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: the problem is that over the last two weeks, I've
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: been keeping an eye on on pop culture news, and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I was trying to add stuff whenever I was seeing
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: it pop up. And it's kind of like the beginning
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: of last year. It looks like twenty twenty six is
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: going to be another year filled with horror movies. We
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: still have some coming out this year in the last month,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and then we have more coming out throughout twenty twenty six.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: First thing I want to mention is I want to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: give a quick talk about Quiver and Black Mandela. These
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: are two distribution companies like the buy or produce movies
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and then find distribution for them. And over the last
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: five or six years, these companies like this have started
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: to pop up largely with a focus on getting stuff
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: to streaming platforms, because obviously that's changed the game before.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Like if you were stuck with the old theatrical world,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: you had two options really from the nineties on. You
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: could either negotiate to get your film in movie theaters
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: or you can negotiate to get your film go direct
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: to video. Now we've got streaming, so it opens up
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: a different world and so many different competing streaming platforms.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: There are a lot more opportunities there. But it also
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: means that we're getting a lot of junk, you know,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: low budget, sometimes poorly made and poorly produced work. It's
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: not to say that people aren't trying on these projects.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Often it's due to lack of you know, of assets,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: lack of funds, or you know that kind of thing.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's bad direction. Sometimes it's just bad cameras and lighting.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a combination of all these things. But it's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: making me think a lot of like Asylum pictures, but
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: even lower budget than Asylum typically was and is because
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I think asylum is still a thing, but Asylum if
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: you're if you don't know. They were best known for
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: a long time of creating what they call mockbusters, where
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: they would make movies that were cheap knockoffs of things
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: that were successful in theaters. So like they Pacific Rim
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: comes out, they would do one called Atlantic Rim only
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: for like is not good. Or instead of transformers they
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: had trans morphers, and it was always a super cheap,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: cash grab kind of thing. Now I will say Black
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Mandala and Quiver, I don't think they're going for the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: cash grab, but I think they are spreading a very
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: wide net for cheaply produced genre movies, typically and usually horror,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: because horror tip that often has a big payout, Like
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: you can have a cheaply made horror movie and still
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: have it be a financial success, like Paranormal Activity. The
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: first one is a great example. Blair Witch Project is
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: another one. So I say that because some of the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: movies that we're going to talk about briefly here fall
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: into that category, and I think we're going to see
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: a lot more of them because we're seeing more of
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: these distribution channels popping up. So first up, we got
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: a movie called The Confession, which is a film out
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: of the UK. Will Cannon is the person responsible for this.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Did you watch the Confession trailer? I know you saw
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: some of these, Okay.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I like both Rats in the Wall and Pied Piper,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: which you have in the note, So yeah, I looked one.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: I made some snarky notes in this section because here's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: the weird thing about this trailer aerial. It starts off
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: and it feels like it's your standard supernatural almost like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: demonic possession or haunting style movie. And then at some
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: point in the trailer they start talking about the Pied
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Piper and they show an ice cream truck. So it's
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: an ice cream truck playing this music, and when you
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: hear the music, it's already too late. That's the Pied Piper,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: and you will the kids will end up following him
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: and getting you know, snatched up or whatever. And so
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: it's wild because the trailer makes it look like it's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: one type of horror movie, like almost like a religious
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: horror movie in the beginning and then goes into this
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: high concept folk horror kind of thing. And I read
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: some reviews and the reviews were saying because it was
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: showing in like horror movie festivals, right, the people who
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: saw it said essentially the same thing. They're like, yeah,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: introducing the Pied Piper stuff, and the third act was wild,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa they waited until the third act
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: to introduce the fact that it's the Pied Piper. That's insane.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: It came out in August in the UK. I do
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: not know when the release date will be in the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: United States. But it is kind of kind of a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: weird concept to me. It sounds to me like it
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: was two different movies that somehow got I don't know,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: large nerdrunk collider together or something interesting.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: One of my one of my friends made a short
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: that one at a local horror film festival in Marietta
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: about an ice cream truck that was actually rather fun,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't know it it's sad that it didn't
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't mash it together a little bit better, like
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: because all of our mashups are completely brilliant.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're flawless, really yeah. And I don't know.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I have not seen this movie, so I cannot speak
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: to its quality. I can only talk about my impression
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: based on the trailer, and even in the trailer, like
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: the Pine Piper, things seemed to come out of nowhere
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: after what I thought it was going to be like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: an Exorcist style movie, And with a title like The Confession,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: it sounds like it's going to be like a Catholic
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: religious horror kind of movie, and it apparently isn't, so
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: that's wild. Then we have The Plantation, and this is
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: about a group of friends, including an interracial couple, who
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: go hiking in Louisiana to visit various plantation sites including
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: slave quarters. You know like you do and racial horror follows.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: So some snarky commenters on YouTube have left comments that
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: said things like this is get Out if it was
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: produced by Timu the the Chinese cheap product platform, or
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: some other said it looked like it was a combination
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: of get Out and the film Anti Bellum from like
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. This comes to digital on December nineteenth. This
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: one also looks like it was not it doesn't look
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: well made to me. Again, not to not to disparage
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: the people who worked on it, but and maybe it's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: just the way the trailers cut, but it did not
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: look like it was particularly skillfully made. But there you go.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Next we have Sleepwalker.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I did not watch that one.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: You didn't watch Plantation? Okay?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: No, and I don't think I want to I like
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: to get out.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: But did you watch Sleepwalker?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I did not watch Sleepwalker?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we're starting your note.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I thought it said geriatric supernatural.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Horror to be really, what did I write?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Generic?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Generic? Okay? Yeah, this one did feel very generic psychological
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: slash supernatural horror to me. So this one we were
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: moving a bump up in in budget. I think Hayden
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Pantieri is in this one, as in the you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Save the Cheerleaders, Save the World from Heroes. She's in
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: this and her character is play She's a mom, her
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: husband's in a coma.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Mom, she's terrifying.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: She's a mom. Yeah, already scary, right, She's a mom.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: She's lost a child in a car accident, and her
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: husband's in a coma. Her husband apparently was very abusive,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: and she I believe still has a young son. Either
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: that or she's taking care of a boy who is
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: not at all related to her. I don't know. It
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: was a trailer so, but she suffers from sleepwalking, or
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: she did when she was a child, and now she's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: doing it again. She's visiting her like childhood home, and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: she's having these sleepwalking episodes and is encountering seemingly supernatural
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: horror elements like ghosts and visions of that sport. So
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is it is it psychological? Is it supernatural?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Is it a combination? I don't know. But it comes
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: to theaters and on demand on January ninth, so it's
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: one of those. It geinst like the the simultaneous release
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: on both styles. I'll if I watch it, I'll be
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: watching it at home. I will not go to the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: theater for this one.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want to watch it. Though I did look
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: at Hidden Peditara's Instagram. She just went red, Oh nice.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Well that's a bummer because now I kind of have
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: another girlfriend. Okay, all right, well there we go. Don't
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: no one tell her? And I know I have to
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: keep repeating myself, but no one tell her. She doesn't
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: need to know. It's fine. I'm not gonna be I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: never leave the house, so she doesn't have to worry
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: about me.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I did watch the next one, Ah.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: A town called Purgatory. What did you think?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I watched it because your snarky commentary made me think
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: it might be like the larp that I that ended
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: that I enjoyed playing so much Westerns and Monsters because
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: I basically played Dean Winchester at a creepy Kithu Louis
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Western style larp.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: It was okay, yeah, no this so the people who
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: are in it are also the people who made it, Like, okay,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: it's one of those where like the two of the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: actors are the principal folks who got this movie made.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: I first saw a trailer for this back in twenty
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: twenty one, so it's been finished for a few years,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: or at least finished enough to have a trailer cut
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: for a few years. But clearly it was one of
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: those things where they were trying to find distribution for it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: It is now getting distribution. It goes to video on
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: demand on December ninth. But the basic story is a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: couple of law men go to a town that appears
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: to be deserted and they find out that there is
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: a Native American mystical entity that is running amuck and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: killing people, and that entity is a skin walker essentially,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: which makes me uneasy because I feel like this is
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: sort of cultural appropriation, you know. I get nervous about
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: these kind of things. It's kind of like if you
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: see a movie about a win to go like, that's
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: an element of folklore that belongs to a very specific culture,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: and to appropriate that in order to tell a monster story.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: That's hard to do in a way that is not disrespectful,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: is what I'll say.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: But then I also infamously, infamously loved the Leprechaun series,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: So what do I know? They're just Irish? Who cares?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: So I say that to someone who has a lot
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: of Irish ancestry, So I'm being flippant. Next we have
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: The Strangers Chapter three. So this one's another interesting story.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Did you I'm guessing you did not watch this one.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I haven't liked any of The Stranger's stuff.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Neither of I. There's no reason for you to watch
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: this trailer. It is more of the same. So when
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: they were shooting this particular trilogy of the Strangers, it's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: kind of like a total reboot of the Strangers movie
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: that came out years ago. They went ahead and shot
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: three movies worth of content. Essentially, they have this idea
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: of shooting all three movies back to back or more
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: or less simultaneously. Here's the thing is, the first two
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: chapters did not do so well. The second chapter really
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: didn't do well, and there was even some people questioning
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: whether or not Chapter three would even come out because
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: the first two did so poorly. But they had already
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: shot it so like it almost it's like sunk cost fallacy.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: You kind of got to see it through because you've
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: already got the stuff right. This trailer did not make
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: me think it looks any better or really worse than
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: the other two. But I didn't think the other two
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: looked good. I was hopeful that the third chapter would
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: see the woman who's essentially been the final girl in
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: the first two chapters turned the tables, and that the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: hunters would become the hunted, and that the third movie
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: would essentially be like the third act of your typical
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: horror movie where the victim takes kind of control back
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: and turns the tables on the bad game that doesn't
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: happen in every slasher film obviously, just a subset of them,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: but I was kind of hoping that that's what this
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: would be. It is not, as far as I can tell.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: It does come out, so people who are invested in
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: that series, if you want to see it through, that's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: when it comes out. I never really got into this one.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I watched the first The Strangers movie, not The Strangers
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Chapter one, but the actual first The Strangers. I believe
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: it's hard for me to remember because there's a lot
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: of home invasion horror movies and they all kind of
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: blend together in my head. So what about the Yeah,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: whether it's a slasher, a ghost, a demon, a vampire, a.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Werewolf, scary is scary. No, I did not watch a session.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: Oh this one. You totally could have watched. This is
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: is a very short teaser.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Your commentary on it made me think, like, I exactly
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: do not want to watch any of them.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Oh no, this one. Like there's nothing horrific that happens
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: in this teaser at all, other than like there's an
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: implication because it's a consent thing, but it's it's not
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: like there's no like violence or even real tension, the obsession.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: The teaser has a young man in a car. He's
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: making a call to a service line because he had
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: a product that granted him a wish, and so he's
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: talking to ask if that wish could be altered in
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: any way. And he's talking to someone who sounds like
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: they're stoned out of their mind. He's like, what, dude,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: you want to cancel your wish? He said, no, I
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: don't want to cancel it. I want to alter it.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: And he says that the reason why he wants to
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: alter it is that he says, does you know the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: person I wished for someone to like me? And I
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: want to know if it's real. He says, well, of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: course it's real. I said, well, I know the wish
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: is real. I want to know if her feelings for
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: me are real. He's like, well, you made it real,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: is what he says. So that's like the little teaser. Yeah,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: so it's creepy because it's talking about removing someone's agency, right,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: like like forcing someone to love you because you have
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: removed their free will. Essentially, that's the creepy part. But
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: it's just that in the teaser, like they don't show
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: they don't show who this person is that he's talking about.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of an interesting way to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: promote it. I'm sure we'll get more trailers in the future,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm intrigued because it feels like it's kind of
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: a monkey's paw situation. This comes out May fifteenth, so
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: it'll be a while before it comes out. I'm sure
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: we'll get, you know, more thorough trailers as we get closer.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Then we got Ready or Not to here? I come.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Did you see Ready or Not with me? In the theater?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I did not see Ready or Not with you? I watched.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I did watch the trailer for that one, okay, and
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I watched the trailer for this one. I actually had
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: a friend who was very excited about Ready or Not
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Too coming out. I didn't. I didn't bother to be like,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I've never saw that one because I didn't want to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: ruin their excitement. The first trailer looked interesting, I thought
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: I might want to see it. This second trailer I
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: just find disturbing. The second trailer feels a bit more
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Saw to me.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, the first one's kind of that way too,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: not as extreme as Saw, but you know, it's all
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: about it's essentially the most dangerous game. It's another take
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: on that like hunting people kind of thing, But the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: first one was definitely like a dark comedy horror movie
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: where a young woman who's newlywed goes to meet her
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: husband's family at their estate and then finds out that
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: she is to be the sacrifice in this weird ritual
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: that they do in order to maintain their sense of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: status and power, and she's essentially set loose in the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: on the estate and the rest of the family are
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: trying to hunt her down, and whoever kills her wins,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: and she ultimately spoiler alert, turns the tables on the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: family and manages to survive. The sequel reveals that the
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: family was part of the larger group of folks who
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: all kind of share this lifestyle, if you will, this
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: thing about sacrificing people in order to maintain their power,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: and they have gathered together to have a much larger
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: hunt to hunt down this young woman because she had
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: the audacity to not die, and to kill her would
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: be killers. So I wrote that it's the same movie again,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: but biggerer, or actually I wrote more biggerer. Yeah, I
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: found this to be kind of a disappointing trailer because
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: it felt so similar to the first one, just with
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: more killers. I guess this comes out April tenth. Oh.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: It also adds a sister to the main character, so
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: now she has her sister that she also is trying
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: to keep alive, and her sister is unaware of what
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: has happened previous to this and is largely useless. So
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: that's the other added complication is that now there are
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: two people that she has to try and keep alive,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: and one of them is her sister, who is sort
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: of trying to catch up and figure out what's going on.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Bog cast.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: Good, great cast, But yeah, I don't know that this
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: is different enough from the first film to really interest me.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Then we've got a trailer for twenty eight years later,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: The Bone Temple. Did you watch this one?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: I figured you might because I knew that you had
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: seen some of the other twenty eight days Later series.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Twenty eight Days I think I saw twenty eight weeks later.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: So why did you think of this trailer?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't realize this is that this
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: was separate from twenty eight years later until today.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: It's essentially twenty eight years later. Part two, Part two.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I haven't watched twenty eight years later yet,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: I don't have the full context. So to me, seeing
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: someone trying to like having maybe a foot up on
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: finding a cure seemed interesting. And there's some interesting like
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: social dynamics that happened in the trailer. But overall, I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: think it's probably just going to be disturbing and disappoint me.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Where I want there to be growth, there probably will
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: not be.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, Ray Findes is in it. He looks like
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: he's having fun playing. Yeah, here's a weird thing. He's
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: playing someone who seems to be a little off his rocker.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: A big stretch for mister Fines. One of the best
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: actors that I have seen, but he tends to play
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of crazy characters as of late. Like the Menu,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: he appears to be playing a doctor who thinks he's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: finding a cure for the rage virus. I think. And
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: then you have like a gang that are the Jimmy's,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Like all the characters in their gang are named jim
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: some variation of Jimmy or something like that. There's I
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: looked it up. There's Jimmy Crystal, Jamie, jim Mima spelled
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: as Jim Mima, Jimmy Jones, et cetera. Interestingly enough, who
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: was it that played the main character in Twenty eight
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: Days Later? He was Scarecrow in Silly and Murphy.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not cur.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it could be Killian Murphy. He so his character's
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: name is Jim. So I'm wondering if the Jimmy's are
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: taking their name after Jim, Like if in this region
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: Jim has this almost iconic kind of reputation. I don't know.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: This one comes out January nineteenth. I did not watch
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: twenty eight years Later. I really like Twenty eight Days Later.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: I think that's a great horror movie. I will say
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: that the vibes I get out of twenty eight years
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Later The Bone Temple feel like it's telling the story
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: of how the real monsters are other human beings. I'm like,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: I know that we know that from every zombie movie ever.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: Can we just can we move beyond that story element?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: Because the Jimmy's look like they're they're worse than the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: zombies are, right.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like at one point Ralph finds the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: friends one of the rage people. Yeah, in the trailer, Yeah,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: very like I kind of got like of mice and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: men vibes. For a brief moment, I.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: Was getting Day of the Dead with Bub who is
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: an undead soldier in that one. I was getting those
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: kind of vibes.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched it, so I don't know who Bubb is.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: It's not for you. Got a couple of other little
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: quick stories I want to mention one. These are not trailers,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: but just kind of stories that I thought were interesting.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: One is I saw an announcement of a horror movie
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: called Hannah Goes to Hell that's going into production. Slackjaw
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Film is producing. It's going to feature either Crizzy or Cursey.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: It's krsy, so I have no idea how to say
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: your name Fox. She was in Terrifier three, but she
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: is going to be in this as well as the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: legendary Adrian Barbo, an actress whom I adore. She was
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: in so much schlocky stuff in the eighties, but she
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: always put in a great performance. Typically plays either the
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: toughest person in the movie or a sex pot or
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: a combination of the two, and she's just phenomenal anyway.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: This is not to be confused with the adult movie
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: with the same title just to.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Say no, Hannah Goes to Hell is a movie that's
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: in development that's not an adult movie. I mean, it's
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: a movie for adults, but it's not a it's not
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: a bouchika wow wow kind of movie. So the story
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: here is that the character of Hannah, which is Fox's character,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: and her daughter are traveling to Hannah's childhood home to
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: look after Hannah's mother, who is played by Barbo, and
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: they encounter strange things in the town, like there's some supernatural,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: spooky stuff going on. Sounds like it's a little bit
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: kind of wicker Man, a little bit hereditary. Like it's
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: hard to say what it's going to look like because
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: this is all in the development phase right. It's been written,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: but it hasn't been shot, so there's not really anything
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: to point at. But I think it sounds promising and
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: I do love Adrian Barbo, so I'm hopeful that it
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: will be good. And finally, before we finally move out
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: of the Frickin' horror Hutch, we've got a horror sci
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: fi movie coming out called Iron Lung. And the thing
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: that's remarkable about this is, like some other horror movies
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: that have come out recently. A YouTuber is behind it. Right,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: We had Zach Kreiger, who really was more known as
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: for a sketch comedy with whites kids, you know, but
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: we also had what was that? There was another one
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: that came out, Shelby Oaks that was also made by
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: a YouTuber.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Well, Mark, isn't a horror movie?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is? It is? Yeah, okay about a woman
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: whose sister has gone missing, so she goes back to
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: try and find She finds a videotape when they're missing
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: sister on it.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: There was another movie that is coming out that looks
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: very delightful that I thought was Shelby Oaks. So I'm wrong.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, I'm glad I saved you because if you
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: had gotten to see Shelby Oaks, you'd be like, this
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: is not what I thought it was going to be,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: you know. So market Plier is the guy behind this,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: and Iron Lung is actually a computer game, so he
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: needed a film adaptation of this computer game. It's set
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: in a distant future where people who are in space,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: like in StarCraft or on space stations are the only
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: ones left, like planets and stars have disappeared. And then
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: this one group of people who have a collection of
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: spacecraft encounter a moon, a desolate moon that has an
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: ocean of blood on it, and they want to explore
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: what this place is, so they send essentially a convict
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: down inside a very tiny submarine to find out what's
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: going on down there, and if they die, no big deal,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: because they were a convict, they could just send another
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: one down. And the story is taking place on the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: thirteenth of such experiments. So twelve other times they've send
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: people down who did not come back. Interesting premise. I've
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: never played the game, but I know who market Plier is.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: I actually I tend to watch content that's by one
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: of his friends, who's whose screen name is Jack septic Ey,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: who is also in this movie.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: So market Plier is a decent YouTuber.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from what I understand, he's like, he's like one
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: of the folks who I've never heard of any like
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: scandals or anything associated with him. So that's a fresh feeling,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: like because recently there have been quite a few pretty
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: grim stories coming out about different YouTubers, especially when it
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: comes to things like grooming and stuff. I've never heard
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: anything like that associated with market Plaier, not saying that
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a perfect human being or anything. But
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: I have not heard any terrible things like I have
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: with other YouTubers.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good to hear. I think iron Lung,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: which which has a typo in our in our show notes,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: but it's gonna stay in our show notes for the website.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: It's called I wrong long.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: To put a G on the end?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Yes one, yeah, so, but I've already put it onto
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: our website, so it's just going to stay there unless
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I remember to change it.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if we want that to be
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: a monument to my typos, I have no.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Problem with that. Listen, there's something wrong on that moon.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: So it makes sense. It makes complete sense. But now
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the very few things we
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: have that actually fit into our show outside of Horror Horror.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: If it's into our show, I'm not saying it doesn't, Jonathan.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not mad. I'm not mad, like that's
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: why you keep it separate. But I will say that
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: it's kind of unfortunate because this is one of the
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: shorter segments in our line.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: But that's good because we are an hour and forty
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: minutes into recording.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: That is true, and it'll probably be that long because
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: I don't expect to cut a whole lot of stuff out. No,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: So what set it first up?
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: So first we got a trailer, kind of a reminder
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: trailer for the war between Land and Sea. This is
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: it's Doctor Who adjacent, so there are definitely Doctor Who
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: characters in it. It kind of feels more torch would honestly
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: because one of the main actors in it is from Torchwood.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it is Torchwood proper though it
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: is Unit okay, So it's it's the land and the
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Sea people are fighting, is basically it. We got a
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: pretty big trail trailer for it when it was first announced.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: This is just a little reminder, but you know, the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: original trailer was before they announced that Disney and BBC
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Doctor Who were splitting their partnership. But this will be
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: out in December in the Kay in the UK, I
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: was to say, in the UK, and then in January
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: on Disney Plus. So we are still getting this special
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: over here. I think it looks fun and good. It
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: looks maybe a little bit more serious than a normal
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Doctor Who episode than many of them normal Doctor Who episodes.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Some Doctor Who episodes are very serious and very tense,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: but I feel like the makeup in it is phenomenal,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Like the budget feels much higher to me.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: I felt like I had seen this before when it
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: was called Black Panther two oh, or The.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: Little Mermaid Revenge. It's not a real thing.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like the sub Mariner and that
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: whole blot or or to some extent, the first Aquaman movie.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: That's true, that's true, But it's Doctor Who. So I'm
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: going to watch it.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Well, you'll have to let me know how you what
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: you thought of it, because that's not my jam. But yeah, so, yeah,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: it's the Sea Devils Versus Unit, which I mean, if
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: you had just told me it's a movie about the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: Sea Devils Versus Unit and give me no more context
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: than that, I'd be like, I don't know what you're saying,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: but I am intrigued.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. These sea devils
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: in this war between land and sea look pretty huge.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: Like right, yeah, look, they're humanoid at least I the
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: sea devil's in the original Doctor Who, and then even
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: in the more I think.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was Jodie Foster or Chudy Goatwa,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: but they brought him back. I think it was in
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: a Jodie Foster episode. They look like turtles with big
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: big ears, like turtles without shell like tall turtles, tall
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: skinny turtles without shells and big big ears. I encourage
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: you to look up a picture because there is a
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: vast difference in how they look between Doctor Who and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: this special. But I don't mind it.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Next up, we got a trailer for the recently
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: retitled How to Make a Killing. It was formerly known
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: as Huntington. This is the movie starring my favorite actor,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: Glenn Powell.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: So he's not winning you over in this trailer.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Actually know what I actually thought he was. He was
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: perfectly fine in this trailer. I actually thought he was
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: pretty good in this trailer.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was about to say. I
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: know that you've thought that he was kind of a
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: bland milk toast actor who played bland milk toast roles,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: which would just be.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Going to use exactly those words.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Which I've listened to you occasionally. I actually do listen
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: and retain information.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Good to know.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: That could just be the roles that he's been cast.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: In this one, he's playing a guy who is kind
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: of down on his luck because he hasn't inherited his
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: family inheritance, and he someone jokes that he would have
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: to kill a whole bunch of people to do that,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: and he kind of takes it to heart and tries
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: to hit on all of his It seems like not
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: great family. Hit on is the wrong word.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: He's trying to eliminate, assassinate, exterminate. So I need to
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: remember when I said The Dutchman is based off a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: plague called Dutchman. Uh huh okay. So How to Make
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: a Killing is largely inspired by a film that Sir
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: Alec Ginnis was in titled what was it like, Kind
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: Hearts and Coronets something like that. Yeah, Kind Hearts and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: Coronets is the title, and the gimmick in Kind Hearts
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: and Coronets same basic plot, right. You have a man who,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: as a child was told he is part of this
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: wealthy family and by rights, he should inherit a good
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: amount of money, but the family has disowned the character's mother.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: So he is the child of a woman who has
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: been disinherited by her family, but she has always maintained
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: that he is the legitimate recipient of that inheritance, so
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: it's been ingrained in his head. So he takes it
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: on himself to eliminate his terrible family members in order
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: to inherit his family's wealth. Well, the gimmick in Kinehearts
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: and Coronets is Sir Alec Ginnis plays all the members
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: of the family. That's fantastic, including the women and and so. Yeah,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: so the main character is killing off through a guinnis
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: over and over again. Uh, this same that same plot,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: including the bit where one actor plays all the relatives,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: was adapted for a stage musical that even had a
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: Broadway run. It's called A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder. Oh,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: so I wrote, well, I've never seen that play. I wrote, Finally,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: here's that version of A Gentleman's Guide to Love and
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: Murder that removes all the pesky singing. Because I was
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: being silly that all of these derived from the same source, right,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: it's not. I think even I think even Kineharts and
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Coronets was based off a novel. So, uh, all of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: these draw from the same source but tell the story
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: in slightly different ways. But they're all basically the same premise.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: You know, this person who is raised to believe they're
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: the rightful inheritor of this wealth has decided to eliminate
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: really awful people like in kind, Hearts and Coronets. It's
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: really more of a commentary on the class system in
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: the UK, but obviously how to Make a Killing It's
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: going to be more about wealth than class because we
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: don't really have a class system in the United States,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: not the same way anyway.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: No, I mean New York vaguely, but depending on what
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: burrew you live in. But no, I'm kidding, No, go ahead.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say we did mention before
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: I think last week or not last week two weeks ago.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: That besides the retitling of this movie going from Huntington
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: to How to Make a Killing, this movie has also
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: been put into a February twentieth release date, and that
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: might be an indication that A twenty four has lost
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: some confidence in the film, probably because The Running Man
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: didn't do gangbusters at the box office, and that also
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: stars Glenn.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Powell, which I know has had back and forth reviews,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: and some of the people I've seen have said, like, well,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: if you're a Stephen King fan, it might be too
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Edgar write for you. And if you're an Edgar Wright fan,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: it might be too Stephen King for you. But the
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: friends that I know who have seen it have enjoyed it.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: The running Man that is. Yeah, this feels honestly kind
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: of Edgar Wright. It's got like a quirky narrator kind
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: of style to it.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the same thing. I thought it felt
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: a bit Edgar wright ish as well. It also is
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: very colorful, which is nice because a lot of the
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: other movies that we saw trailers for this week have
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: that muted color palette that I'm really getting tired of,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Like I can use some other colors besides grays and browns.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm excited to see Glenn Powell get
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: to have some more fun and pull you around to
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: his corner, Jonathan, it could happen. Yeah, next, speaking of
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: getting pulled around to a corner, I was not the
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: hugest fan of Game of Thrones, and I have not
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: watched The House of the Dragon whatever it's called. But
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: I am very excited for the Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, and we got the
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: full trailer for it.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a night being a k K n I g
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: h T night not a not night time. Yeah. We
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: talked about this a few weeks ago when we got
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: a teaser for it. This time we got a longer trailer,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: or maybe it was about the same length, but it
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: was slightly different material. This is based off novellas that
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: George R. Martin wrote called Tales of Dunk and Egg,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: which are the references to the two kind of protagonists
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: of these stories. Dunk refers to the hedge Night, who
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: is the titular Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, and Egg
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: references a young boy who turns out to be a
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: targarian prince but is kind of, you know, slumming it
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: with his buddy Dunk and acting as his squire. And
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: it feels like it's one of those things where Dunk
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: is a very good natured person who genuinely wants to
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: be a force of good in a world that doesn't
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: really appreciate that very much. And I get the feeling
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: that Egg admires Dunk and wants to look out for
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: him because Egg, between the two, Egg is far far
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: more worldwise than Dunk is. An Egg is like nine.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, except for egg is it's more snarky a
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, it feels like I thought this was a good trailer.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: Like I'm sure it's still going to be very violent,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't look nearly as grim as Game of
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: Thrones Dead.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks. It looks darling. I'm very hopeful for it.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of hope it's it's the entry into that
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: world that I really enjoy.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Comes out January eighteenth.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also something I had no idea about as a
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: book or an upcoming film that Jonathan found the trailer
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: for that I also think looks actually absolutely darling. Is
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: the Magic Farawah Tree.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's far away, far away, Yeah, as in
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: it's far away.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: The Magic Faraday Tree.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: It's a tree where if you're inside it, your cell
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: phone doesn't work.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that might be the grease.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't read the books, so I
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: can't tell you. Yeah, this is This is based on
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: some children's books that were written from like the late
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: nineteen thirties to the early nineteen fifties, don't I think
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: there's only a few of them, but that's the span
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: of time where they were published and it's about a
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: family that relocates to the country, and obviously everything's been
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: updated for a modern telling of this story. So like,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: this is a family where you've got kids who are
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: like one of the kids is a boy who's absolutely
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: addicted to his screens, like he has to be on
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: a tablet or something where he's going out of his brain.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: You've got like the older daughter who is the more cynical,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: surly character, and then you have a young daughter who
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: is more whimsical and prone to adventure, and she's the
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: one who initially gets called out to. Like they relocate
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: to the countryside, but there's some woods that border their
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: the area where they live, and the little girl goes
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: exploring and discovers magical people who live inside the forest.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: And then the look.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: They look a little bit styled, like who's without you know,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: the who faces.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like the moonfaced man who has has a
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: hairdoo that looks like a crescent moon like yeah, and
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: the saucepan man who is covered with saucepans.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: And then there's Dame wash a lot in mister oom
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: boom boom. Honestly, these names made me have to look
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: up and make sure that it wasn't related to a
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: Wrinkle in Time. Yeah, it can maybe that kind of whimsy.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me a bit of things like Phantom
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: Toll Booth and Wrinkle in Time. And I know, I
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: know Phantom Told Booth is your favorite book of all times.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: But I never ending story, yes.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like never Ending Story because it's
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: false advertising.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you just haven't worked hard enough at it.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: You have to loop back around at the beginning. Uh. Yeah,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought this trailer looked absolutely lead charming.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: I agree, And there's some fun people in it, Andrew
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: Garfield's and it, Claire Foy, Michael Palin, Jennifer Saunders, Simon
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: glood Coughlin. Yeah, Simon Farnabee is the one who was
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: responsible for adapting the story. He also appears as as
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: farmer in this. If you ever have seen Horrible Histories,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: he's in that. He's also appeared a couple of times
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: in shows like The Mighty Boosh, so I always I'm
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: always pleased to see his face pop up.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I I had to share this with with some
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: of my friends because when I watched it, I was like,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: this is just so darling.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: It's a kid's movie, I know, but I want to
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I find I often find English children's
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: movies to be more palatable than American ones because I
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: feel like they appeal to again a sense of adventure
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: and win, but they don't tend to talk down to
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: their intended audience, and American films often do.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, there's a little less sugarcoating.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and things like scary stuff can happen in English,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: like in English children's programming, and it used to happen
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: in American children's programming, but it doesn't anymore.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's talk about a programming that I don't
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: know you watched. It didn't have much scary in it.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: For Snow on Fragle Rock.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Oh No, that wasn't scary at all. I will say
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Magic Faraway Tree comes out March twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. Okay, first,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: first Snow of Fragle Rock was adorable. I mentioned before,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: it felt the most Henson like project from the Henson
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: Studios in a while, probably since Electric Mayhem. Like, there's
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: there's some metahumor going on, there's some some really like
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: there's just there were just moments that made me think
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: this is like classic Muppets slash classic fraggle rock humor
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: and performance that come through there. There is a moment
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: where a muppet character encounters the person who the character
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: they encounter is played by the puppeteer who puppeteers that
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: that Muppet character. So the muppet and their puppeteer encounter
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: each other and they're like, have we met? Like you
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: seem really familiar, and like if you don't know, then
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: it's just like why is this here? But for people
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: geeks like me, I'm like, oh, that is cute. Having
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: having a puppeted, a puppeteered character and their puppeteer interacting
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: in the same scene is cute. They have a bit
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: with a musical artist whom I was not familiar with
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: that is absolutely adorable. The music style has been up dated,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: and that was a little jarring to me because it
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: felt a little like like auto tune boy bandish to
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: me a little bit the way it sounded, and that's
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: just not what I associate with fraggle rock. Doesn't mean
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: it's a bad thing, just meant that it was alien
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: to me because I haven't watched any of the Fragle
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: Rock since Apple TV picked it up, and I feel
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: like I need to now because I really did enjoy
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: this quite a bit. I like how it was. The
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: story they tell is incredibly simple. It was also really
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: easy to identify strongly with Gobo because the main story
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: is that Gobo has been putting off writing a song
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: for their big holiday celebration, and the holiday celebration is
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: like it's like ready to go, but Gobo doesn't have
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: a song yet and is desperately trying to extricate himself
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: long enough to be able to write a song that's
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: at least as good, if not better than the last
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: song he did the previous year. So it's like it's
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: like him procrastinating and finding ways to justify that procrastination
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: and trying to figure out a way out of that procrastination.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Gobo, I see you, I am the I
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: am you Gobo.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that feel as well. Well. I look
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: forward to watching it. I always try to find something
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: new in Christmasy, maybe this and the Christmas Heist movie
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: that's coming out on Netflix.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: This is adorable. It's like forty five minutes, maybe not
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: even that, maybe forty It's adorable. It is silly in
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: all the right ways. The performances are corny, but if
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: you have a soft spot for that, like I do,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: it's incredibly charming. So highly I highly recommend it for
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: people who like that kind of thing. If corny humor, Like,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: if you watch an old Muppet show and you can't
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: get past how corny it is, like, that's not appealing
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: to you. This isn't gonna work for you there. But
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: if that is the kind of thing you like, check
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: it out. If you have Apple TV, for.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: Sure, and if you like our show, tell your friends
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: to check it out. Because we have made it to
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: the end of our epic happens every time we miss
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: a week episode.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're closing in on two hours, so I am
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: not going to give you there's no way to get
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: in touch with me this week, Ariel. If they want
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: to get in touch with you, how do they do it?
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: You can also get in touch with Jonathan through me.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: You can reach out on social media on Facebook, Instagram,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: and threads. We are a larger drum Collider. We're also
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: that on discord. You can get in vtation to our
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: discord if you need it. On our website Www. Dot
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: largenersdron Collider dot com. That's also where all of our
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: show notes are. You can also send us a long
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: term email at largener drum Pod at gmail dot com.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: We love hearing from you. Thanks for all of your
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: interaction and excitement about the geeky world around us that
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: you share with us. We love hearing from you, and
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: we will try to bring back mashups if we ever
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: get an episode that's under an hour and a half.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Again, yeah, since we're at two hours and like twenty
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: seconds now, this is not the time for us to
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: do a mashup.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: No, no, but but we do want to bring them
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: back here and there as we can. So thank you
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: to the people I've written to us about that as well.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: And until next time, I am Aeriel not so far
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: Away Caston, and.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: I am Jonathan. I want to see something really scary Strickland. No,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't ave you, Okay. The large Nerdron Collider was
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: McLeod of incomptech dot com.