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The importance of revising established history | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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My name is Germ. This is Germ Warfare, the battle
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of ideas. Yeah.
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Gemma, you were just saying to me a moment ago there's fire on
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the roof. What do you mean?
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Well, we had our Holocaust summit finally successfully on
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the February the 7th, so that's 11 days ago.
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We had originally planned it for January 27th, the International
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Holocaust Remembrance Day, but the French International League
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Against Racism and anti-Semitism, or the other way
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around. Now it's the way around
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intervened back in just a few days before before January 27th,
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and had the hosting company where the platform was hosted
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that we were using for streaming shut down our server.
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So on the 27th, we were just 5 minutes away from going live and
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a lot of people waiting. Suddenly the server went black
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was gone. So it took a while for us to
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figure out what's going on and what we can do about it, and by
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the time we knew, we could perhaps have switched over to
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Rumble or some other streaming platform, but time had already
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passed and the whole schedule was messed up.
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We decided to reschedule and we've managed to get all the
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presenters on board for Saturday, February 7th.
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By that time the the streaming platform we were using, it's FTJ
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media.com, had actually found a new hosting company, a new
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contract, new server, set up the software, everything was running
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and we successfully did that Holocaust Summit on that day and
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it was pretty successful. The peak attendance during the
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streaming was a little over 2500 people.
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So that's, that's what's quite, quite good for our neck of the
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woods anyway. And then we, we posted
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everything on our website that's dedicated to it, to
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holocaustsummit.com. So everyone who wants to see the
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individual presentations can go there and, and, and look what
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was presented. And as I was after the event, we
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had of course recorded it and it was a, an event that was 10
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hours and 20 minutes or so. And then I wanted to chop it up
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into every single presentation and have a, a, a video posted
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for every single presentation. It took me a while to re record
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it. And no, not re record it, but to
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to use the software to chop things up and compress it
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because it was quite some data. And as I was uploading that to
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our server, the server kind of caved in, became very slow and
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then through a permanent error couldn't access the site
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anymore. I had overloaded the disk.
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We had run out of disk space with all the the interviews that
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I had done and uploaded over the past 1 1/2 two years and
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documentaries I produced. So we were running out of space,
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got a space upgrade that was not a problem getting going from 500
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gig of to one terabyte. And then the next day we got a
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notification from the hosting company that hosts all all
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various websites, that is to say kodo.com, Holocaust summit.com,
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holocaustacademy.com, holocaustencyclopedia.com and
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armrec.co.uk. So the the web shop that they
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have received a complaint from the Enter Defamation League that
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we were the usual people that they dislike and want to see
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shutdown. So they don't like Holocaust
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scepticism. And they are evidently on the
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same server, some other websites that we have no connection with
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or not the same server, the same hosting company, we have a
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dedicated server, but the same hosting company has also
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websites hosted on some other servers.
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No, not related, but complaints were coming in for that or two.
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And the Co location, you know, there's several layers.
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We have us using the hosting service and the hosting service
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uses a Co location service and the Co location service sits
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some place. And our hosting company that
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we've been working with for many years made this strategically
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unwise decision a year ago to move all our websites without
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telling us onto a server that is located at a Co location
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facility here in the US, but run and operated and owned by a
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company headquartered in Germany.
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Big mistake because Holocaust skepticism is illegal in Germany
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and that company can very easily be legally forced to shut
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anything down that has to do with Holocaust skepticism.
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So that Co location company in Germany informed our hosting
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company, you need to look into this.
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We got it, a complaint from the ADL and if anything is illegal
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under germ law, you need to shut it down.
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OK, so we're currently restructuring, rebuilding,
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moving. That was a unwise decision from
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from our hosting company to not inform us that they have found
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cheaper, better service with a German company.
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They may be cheaper, they may be better, but they, they have to
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abide by strict censorship laws. So it throws a little bit of a
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monkey wrench into our system. But I mean, we have all the
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backups and everything's, we haven't been shut down yet.
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So we have time enough to move and hopefully that will go
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smoothly. But we are kind of in the middle
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of it. And this is each time it it,
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it's unsettling and it is taking you out of your normal working
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routine of being productive for, for a week or so.
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You know, if you're handling I think 8 or 9 domains All in all,
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and making sure everything runs, gets transferred, probably runs,
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probably gets switched over properly is, well, time
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consuming. One wonders if they've heard of
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the Barbra Streisand effect. It's just within that same time
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period, I find out, get an e-mail that Finland has a day
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before International Holocaust Movements day, a day before our
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original summit day passed a law outlawing Holocaust skepticism.
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And it's all in Finnish. So I had it AI translated.
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And the Finnish government has a long sermon about why they do
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this. And among them is a section that
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basically they have been bullied by the European Union.
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The European Union in 2007 has put in a quote, UN quote
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recommendation on how to regulate hate speech and and how
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to combat racism and anti-Semitism and all the stuff.
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And they kind of put all members of the European Union under
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pressure to enact laws that abide by this, this guideline,
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which was pretty much written by Germany and France, which are
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the two most censoring countries in, in, in Europe.
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And Finland has resisted so far. But basically the European
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Commission has initiated proceedings against Finland
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because they haven't introduced a law like this.
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And they were facing potential penalties without the European
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Union. Now that looks like, I don't
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know. But you know, they withhold
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funding. They withhold this and that and
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whatever else they can try to get at people with.
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Let me turn off my my cell phone here.
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I don't want to be harassed by this.
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But finally, Finland just caved in and it's the 28th country in
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the world that has now officially is prescribing the
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writing of history when it comes to this topic with penal law and
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other words, with government guns drawn.
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And that's the only topic in the field of science and scholarship
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where the majority of Western countries whose ideal used to be
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enlightenment and freedom of speech and so forth.
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The only topic where the governments go at to to extreme
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ends of penal law of government. Gun strong to control that
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historical narrative to have only their version heard.
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And that must it is 100% proof that this is most important to
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them. Doesn't prove anything else yet,
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but it shouldn't make anyone skeptic skeptical about why do
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they think they have to resort to government bayonets to keep
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this narrative up and unchallenged, rather than to
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convincing arguments. They can do it everywhere else,
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but there they can't. So now with the summit getting
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attention, getting organized and becoming more visible on the
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landscape of the social media, evidently we have received the
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attention of of the usual suspects that want to shut us
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down, the Anti Defamation League.
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Not surprising of a second front that has built up in consequence
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of that summit too. That Searchlight.
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Searchlight is, is this organization from Antifa, from
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the extreme left that is trying to go after anything that is on
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the right. And they did that they dislike.
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So they had a, a web page dedicated an article dedicated
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to our summit summarizing it and kind of poking fun at it when
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say section say in the afternoon, the wheels comp came
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off at the summit and we can talk about that.
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Maybe there's some truth to it, but it's kind of more, more
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funny than anything. It's just you, you the nature
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coming in. But anyway, at the end of this
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article, Searchlight says, well, if the Trump government, if
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Trump is so hell bent at deporting immigrants, they
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should put Gemma Rudov at the top of the list.
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Because why should we accept the guy who who contests the
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mainstream Holocaust narrative as an immigrant?
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He should be at the very top of the list and should be the first
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one to be deported. Now Searchlight is from Antifa
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is from the radical left and MAGA movement dislikes them and
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to put it mildly, so they're not on good terms.
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I don't think necessarily they that MAGA and and their
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supporters on the Trump administration will will listen
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to anything that Searchlights and their backers have to say.
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But Searchlight, of course, now pulling up the same rope in the
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same direction as ADL and ADL gets politicians attention, to
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put it mildly, talking about the the Israel lobby, the Zionists
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having the Trump administration in their bag and and controlling
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it with or without the Epstein files and all the things that
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are in there. So there is a realistic
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background scenario where they are trying to motivate the
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current administration to do something against me.
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No, there's no legal way of doing it because I'm a, a
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illegal immigrant, not an illegal immigrant.
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And I have not the, the, the, you know, they, they can revoke
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green cards. I have a green card, but
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there's, there is a legal procedure attached to it and
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that is dependent on a certain type of criminal record you have
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to have. And I don't have that.
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So it wouldn't work. But it is unsettling because the
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first time it happened to me, 2005, I did not have the green
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card yet but I had the certificate saying I'm entitled
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to 1. So I was legally entitled,
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married to AUS citizen with a baby and so forth.
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But before I could literally go to the counter in the
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Immigration Services to get the green card, they intercepted me
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just steps away from getting that green card.
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They intercepted me and deported me.
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So they were ignoring the law back then.
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Now I have the green card. There are a few more steps
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involved, but we'll see how the Trump administration has
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reacted. When it comes to immigrants,
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they don't necessarily abide by legal procedures here.
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Shoot 1st and ask question next. That's kind of immigration
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policies. Gamma, What exactly is your
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crime though? There's no crime.
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The the the crime is from a Zionist or Jewish point of view,
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a a moral failure of in my opinion is a pseudo moral
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failure, but not abiding by their dogma, by their narrative
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and within the United States context so that the First
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Amendment, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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People may disagree, but disagreeing with someone's
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historical point of view is not a reason to to deprive them of
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anything. Yeah, I mean, So what?
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So what if people have different views of historical events?
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Yeah, well, I can give you a devil, devil's advocates point
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of view how they are. Yeah, I don't want to make that
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argument, but I can understand where they are coming from.
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I think. Oh, if we deny, that's like
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giving the perpetrators A carte blanche of getting away with it
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historically and the next person who wants to commit something
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similar things. Or I can get away because before
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you know it, people. So we'll deny it, we'll sweep it
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under the carpet, we'll justify it and then we're going going to
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be Scott free. This is a little bit of a push,
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but I, I can see how thought processes can, can get you to
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the point where you say we shouldn't allow people to
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discuss it because it was so terrible.
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And the next time around, the next guy is trying to do
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something similar. They think they can get away
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with it. However, profound principle of
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any society under the rule of law is that you give everyone
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the right, even if you were in a court of law, to defend
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themselves, or that that anyone can help defending A defendant.
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And it's the same in history. If I have a historical narrative
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and somebody's accused of having done something and I run into
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new evidence or assess evidence newly and say, well, that I
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don't, that I don't think that narrative holds up, I should be
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able to criticize it. This is a profound right,
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whether you're in the courtroom or in the in the in the
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historical room to argue you can do that with every other event.
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And when it comes to to genocides, to massacres, grand
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state of massacres in general, the rules change because of the
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magnitude of the alleged events. Governments think or pressure
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groups think they they have to make an exception.
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I mean, you know, nowadays you can run around and deny the
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Armenian genocide, as you mentioned the Rwandan genocide,
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that you can deny the whole lot of more, you can deny all the
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10s of millions of victims of Stalin or downplay them, but.
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Sure, but my point gamma is So what?
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The first sentence that I received in Germany for my
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expert report, the the court argued why they have to send me
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in prison for forensic research. The argument was as follows.
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My forensic research talks about chemistry, it doesn't talk about
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Jew. So even though I do not even
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mention Jews in my expert report, a reader inclined to
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believe me coming to the conclusion that the Holocaust
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story is untrue may develop hostile feelings toward
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witnesses of that period who claim otherwise, The vast
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majority of which are Jewish. Which as a next step could lead
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to that inclined reader inclined to believe me, develop on
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hostile feelings to warp the Jews for having lied to such a
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degree that they may be inclined to deny the Jews the right to
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live or to have a safe life in our society.
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So not talking about Jews can lead to someone reading my
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expert report into wanting to stuff Jews into the gas
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chambers. Therefore, I am not allowed to
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publish my forensic research. The total number of people who
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died in World War 2 is estimated to be between 70 and 85,000,000.
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And of that the Soviet Union suffered and of that the Soviet
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Union suffered the highest losses with around 24,000,000.
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So, well, the point is a lot of people died in World War 2.
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Yeah, I think that number is a little bit inflated, but yeah,
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you can discuss it. Yeah, you can discuss all the
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all the numbers of victims, whether there were one million
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Russian POW who died or 5,000,000 and two million
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Russian civilians or 10 million. You just can't discuss this one
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number. Yes, there were also Germans who
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died at the hands of the Allies in 1945 in Germany.
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Yeah, and can you can tell don't play that.
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You take the dress and Holocaust, it was a real
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Holocaust where where thousands, 10,100 thousand depending on who
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we are burned in that allied series of air raid attacks.
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And the official narrative now is I think they think it's
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202425 thousand, 30,000 Max that have died, whereas others claim
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a hundred 150,000 it goes up to 250,000.
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Whatever you can downplay that Holocaust which way ever you
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want. The 2.1 million Germans that
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were missing in action after the mass expulsion of germs from
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from East Germany and Eastern Europe are up for grabs as well
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as new research saying well, when they made that accounting,
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missing in action didn't mean dead.
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A lot of people just went out, accounted for, slipped through,
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survived and therefore the death toll is not 2.1 million, but
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maybe only a few 100,000 and that would be good news.
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My ancestors, my own family was expelled hearing that they.
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Death toll of germs was not 2.1 million plus but maybe only
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100,000. I'd say if that is true, that is
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good news and we should have the same attitude.
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If not 6,000,000 Jews died during the Second World War but
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say only 1,000,000 the number only the word only shouldn't go
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with 1,000,000 but you know what I mean in relation to 6,000,000.
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Then this should be good news. If the horror murder method, the
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unique homicidal gas chambers were a figment of the
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imagination and that nightmare that Hans Jews to this day turns
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out to be just that, a nightmare or not reality, that should be
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good news too. Objectively seen, however, the
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Holocaust is the sword and shield of Judaism and Zionism,
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and they need it to corral Jews into doing what they want.
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And it is there, as I mentioned, sword and shield to, to impose
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their will upon Western nations and to, to control the narrative
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and to control politicians and to control foreign policies of,
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of this countries in particular, but also of domestic issues.
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And they don't want to let go of that.
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Of course, that's, that's a, a leverage they have over Western
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societies that is pivotal to, to organized Jewish interests and
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and Zionist interests. That's at the core of it,
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politically speaking. And that is also where we get
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now attention from both sides, the people inclined to listen to
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us realizing there is this big connection between history of 80
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years past and current political events and and manipulations.
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And there's the other side of the equation.
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Who wants to muddy the water, wants to prevent people from
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seeing this connection and prevent people from realizing
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this use and misuse of history by distorting it, by
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misrepresenting it or even inventing it in for for
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political purposes. For current political purposes
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is not new. The exaggerations and invention
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that were made about October 7th, what happened on that day
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justifying the Gaza genocide were similarly invented and
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inflated as events around what we call the Holocaust and people
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start seeing this. On a small scale, it happened on
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October 7th on a big scale, it happened in the Second World
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War. The Holocaust is again only a
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the the tip of the iceberg of the whole World War 2 narrative
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that has been misrepresented and people start looking into it and
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realizing, wait a minute, there's something profoundly
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wrong. I should be open to a discussion
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for Christ's sake. It's 80 years ago.
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Any other invent in history after 80 years have passed.
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That means everyone who lived through the period is pretty
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much dead and only little children from that time around
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that have had no influence and not really can't remember much.
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There is no personal involvement, personal investment
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anymore and the the subsequent generations should look at it,
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be able to look at it emotionally, objectively.
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That has been the case with the Napoleonic Wars.
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In 1900. People were looking at the
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Napoleonic Wars completely objectively on either side.
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Nobody was getting upset about it anymore.
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And we have a similar distance now to to to the Second World
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War as we had it around 1900 to the Napoleonic Wars.
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But as I just mentioned, the number of countries outlawing
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discussing this particular event is steadily increasing with
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every year. We're up to 28 now.
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It's getting worse. It's not cooling down.
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We're not getting more at ease with our more more distant past.
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We are getting more more extreme about suppressing dissent,
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controlling the narrative. I shouldn't say we they, I
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should say not we. Yeah, but Guillermo, then it's
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all the more reason to talk about it.
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Right, exactly. That's what I'm saying.
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I don't know where the truth is. That's how I started out my
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journey. But that the government tries to
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force that narrative down your throat at gunpoint stinks to the
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high habits. There is something profoundly
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wrong. I don't know whether it's the
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narrative that is wrong or whether it's the mindset using
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guns to ram down a narrative is wrong, or both.
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But something stinks and I can't do anything against the
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government coming with guns. But I can look into the closets
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and see how many skeletons are they hiding.
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We have a bit of a dirty past. Also, I think most of the world
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knows about apartheid and similarly the further away from
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apartheid we go, the more protected the the victim
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narrative becomes. It's become an industry and
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Norman Finkelstein has said this himself about the Holocaust.
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Now he lost family on both his mother's and father's side in
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the camps. South Africa, you know, I have
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had no interest in it when a pilot happened because I was a
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kid. I was a teenager and then it
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came down and I have since had some friends down in South
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Africa or Deutsche Suit West in Namibia who have seen what's
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going on. Namibia is not quite a bit the
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the The Dirty past doesn't stop with the end of of apartheid
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because what you what I my understanding it from the
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distance from the report I've seen and I don't know how
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accurate they are. There seems to have been in
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installed a kind of reverse apartheid that white folks are
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getting deprived, persecuted and and in in scenarios that remind
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me a little bit of what germs went through between the two.
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What was in Poland being ethnically cleansed.
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Now it was on larger dimension, but there seems to be ethnic
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policy of ethnic pressure in in South Africa tries to push white
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farmers, white people out of society with legitimate and
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illegitimate rules. So that is this.
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This is true and they are. They are over 140 laws that are
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pretty much a discriminatory against white people and anybody
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can look it up. There is a website I believe, I
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can't remember the URL. I think it's called race laws or
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race law.co dot ZA. So yeah, dirty past and dirty
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present. The more things change, the more
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they say the same. It's just the the, the the
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pendulum swings to the other extreme and we prosecute the
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other end of of the spectrum for a change and that's all that's
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happened. It may not be too.
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I don't know. I wasn't there may, may, may or
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may not be to the same extent that it was under apartheid, the
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anti black apartheid. Now that I have an anti white
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apartheid because it may, I see the same thing with history.
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When we're talking about the Second World War in Germany in
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particular, you had the persecution of Jews, of left
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wingers, of people of different mindsets under National
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Socialism, which was dictatorship, not keen on making
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compromises with minorities. And the pendulum now in modern
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Germany has one to the other extreme.
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And the the tools they use is very easy.
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You stick a Nazi label on someone and that makes it look
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to legitimate to the world and even applaudable to the world
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that they persecute these evil Nazis.
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Nobody really takes a close look at whether these Nazis are
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really Nazis. How do you define one in the
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first place? There's German president case
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law that says anyone on the conservative or right wing
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spectrum can legitimately be called a Nazi.
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So all the magazine, all Republicans in in the United
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States, for the US listeners, if you were to transfer the society
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into a mindset of current German zeitgeist could be called Nazis.
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They're all Nazis, not just the MAGA, but all Republicans.
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Anything on the right wing, any in fact, if you dare raise it,
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the current normal national German flag in your frontline in
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Germany, you can be called a Nazi because you're a
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nationalist. You're a patriot.
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Transferring that to Americans, a mindset, a mindset of healthy
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nations means that the vast majority of society could be
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called under germ case law currently Nazi because anything
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makes you proud of your nation and acting upon it.
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Want to save your nation? Want to serve your nation?
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Want to stand, make it stand out against others and be better and
30:21
finer and and greater. Make it make Germany great
30:25
again. Oh my God, it's all Nazi.
30:28
So the pendulum has swung to the extreme other end that anyone
30:33
that just wants to have normal feelings to positive feelings to
30:38
what their own ethnicity, culture, nation gets thrown down
30:43
down the drain. And this is my my original
30:46
starting point because I grew up having developing natural
30:52
feelings of patriotism to my nation, but then got got
30:58
cornered with all the guilt trips about second one Holocaust
31:02
and say, well, that shouldn't stop us.
31:06
A nation can't function if if the members can't be proud of
31:09
what they are part of. It's like corporate identity, to
31:16
use a completely innocuous example.
31:18
If you want to run a company successfully, you need to have
31:21
the employees identify with it. You have to have corporate
31:24
identity where people work for the best of the company, do
31:27
their best so that the company can succeed, and then everyone
31:30
will have success and we're doing much better.
31:32
This is understood within the context of, of, of business, of
31:37
running a business, but the same should be applied to running a
31:40
society, running a nation, running whatever you have
31:43
community of any style. You need to have corporate
31:46
identity on a national level. We call that patriotism.
31:50
But in Germany, it's a crime. It's, it's not necessarily
31:55
legally speaking a crime, but morally speaking, if, if you
31:58
stand up for this, you can do that during a soccer game way
32:01
for the German flag, you get away with that.
32:02
But that's as far as it goes, so.
32:05
In many ways, Garma, this is a litmus test though, because a
32:10
few 100 years ago witches were being burnt at the stake.
32:14
If something is true, why does the state need to violently
32:18
protect it? They have excuses for it.
32:21
It's just too sensitive. The former victims are way, way
32:26
too vulnerable. You know, call the Jewish
32:28
minority vulnerable. They're the most powerful, the
32:30
richest, the most influential, the least vulnerable.
32:35
But that's the argument, basically.
32:37
It can happen again, and everything needs to be done to
32:39
prevent it from happening again. The logic on the surface sounds
32:48
good. Yeah.
32:49
We have the moral obligation to do everything to prevent it,
32:52
even from the outset to to even have legitimate criticism.
32:56
Can't, don't even call it legitimate.
32:58
Any kind of criticism against Jews, surfers and society.
33:01
We can't. We have to suppress everything,
33:03
let alone criticize the historical narrative.
33:06
But basically what they're saying here is back in the past
33:12
it was really bad because back then books were burned,
33:17
dissidents were persecuted, and they were thrown into prison.
33:24
In order to prevent from books getting burned and dissidents
33:27
getting thrown into prison, we need to burn books and throw
33:30
dissidents into prison because that's that's effectively what's
33:35
happening. By claiming to fight National
33:40
Socialist attitudes, whatever they are, pre emptively with all
33:46
kinds of extreme measures they have turned into the monster
33:49
they are claiming to fight. This is a compounded issue.
33:57
Criticizing Gaza. What what Israel has done in
33:59
Gaza in Germany is a crime and thought crime.
34:02
Prosecutions in Germany since 2023 have gone through the roof.
34:07
There were some 20,000 cases, mostly against what they call
34:10
right wing thought crimes, among them Holocaust scepticism, but
34:14
criticizing immigration, criticizing Jews, if to what
34:18
degree or whatever. But in particular now has gone
34:21
on from from 20,000 cases per year and they are way over
34:25
40,000 and it's keeps rising. I'm I'm interested to see in the
34:28
middle of this year when they released the data of last year
34:31
where this has gone through. Yeah, Gaza.
34:36
The Jews are the primary victims of their own propaganda.
34:41
No, the secondary, I would say, or maybe the tertiary, the
34:44
primary, of course the the Palestinians secondaries are are
34:48
the germs themselves, except for their leaders take advantage of
34:51
it, who are corrupt morally speaking.
34:54
And and the the the third kind of victims are the Jews
35:00
themselves. There is more and more reports
35:04
about the 2nd and 3rd generation of Jews who have been born and
35:10
grown up after the war suffering trauma and being nervous wrecks
35:18
and on edge and and and all kinds of things.
35:21
Whether that is exaggerated or not can be discussed, but fact
35:25
of the matter is that if you expose children from
35:29
kindergarten age on or elementary school age on to
35:32
propaganda of mass extermination, mass gassings,
35:35
mass slaughters, that is said to have happened to your
35:39
grandparents, great grandparents generation, and you are told
35:44
this happened, this can happen again, this may happen to more,
35:46
this may happen to you. You need to protect yourself.
35:49
You need to act accordingly. And if you tell us elementary
35:53
school kids, you traumatize them deeply, subconsciously and
35:57
consciously. And this is a formation process
36:00
that turns every new generation of Jews into traumatized persons
36:07
who get paranoid about non Jews, particularly those who show any
36:14
kind of critical attitude or even some enmity, some hostility
36:24
towards Jews for whatever reason.
36:27
And then comes the Samsung option.
36:30
Then comes the pre emptive rise and kill attitude toward non
36:38
Jews. We think they're about to build
36:41
gas chambers again. And in order to prevent that we
36:45
lash out pre emptively because that's basically the, the, the
36:48
narrative that I've been pushing in Gaza.
36:50
You know, the the the little things that happened on October
36:54
7th are being blown out of proportion of the Palestinians
36:57
are really out to get us to murder us all and to behead our
37:01
babies and to cut fetuses out of women's wombs and to bake them
37:05
in the oven and all the other stories that were told mass rape
37:08
and what have you. And then we preemptively want to
37:15
kill everyone who is in our way and who doesn't agree with us.
37:20
So it turns Holocaust propaganda, genocidal propaganda
37:24
fed with the mother's milk, figuratively speaking, leads to
37:28
traumatized people who are paranoid to the point where they
37:33
condone, at least condone or accept, promote, support and
37:43
commit genocide. Holocaust education is supposed
37:49
to prevent genocides. That's the official story.
37:52
We want to educate everyone with that kind of narrative in a way
37:58
that they recognize the signs early and stop genocides in the
38:02
outset when persecution happens. But what we see instead is that
38:07
it is used as a justification and a fuel and an accelerator of
38:15
genocide. And this should disturb.
38:20
Everyone, what Norman Finkelstein also said to me is
38:24
that he he refers to it as Holocaust with a lower cage, a
38:31
lowercase H and he was making the point that it's no more
38:36
important than any other quote, UN quote Holocaust that's
38:40
occurred. Had significant and successful
38:45
and very influential minorities in all Western countries and
38:49
they had developed an ideology that the vast majority of these
38:55
countries subscribe to, then maybe the Holodomor would have
38:59
been would have a significance in all our societies narrative
39:04
and and political theatre. But that's not the case.
39:08
And that's not the case for any of the other massacres that
39:11
happened in the there's only one minority in Western countries in
39:16
particular, but not just Western countries that has this clout,
39:21
this influence, this wealth and that has the underlying
39:26
narrative and the narrative basically is is Judaism itself.
39:29
It's 90% of Christianity is Jewish, the Old Testament and
39:35
Christianity is what has for centuries defined the Western
39:38
world. And to this day, even most
39:40
people are not actively Christian anymore.
39:45
They're still Christian mice. And their recognition that the,
39:48
the, the Jewish narrative is the bedrock of Christianity and that
39:54
gives them the Jews leverage influence.
39:57
And I was said, you know, had it not been for Christianity,
40:01
Judaism wouldn't exist anymore. It would have been disappeared
40:04
like any other Stone Age religion as as a tribal religion
40:09
that got dissolved within the cosmopolitan migration and and
40:13
and and changes of civilization and so forth over the, the, the
40:16
centuries of millennia. But it did not like all the
40:20
others, disappear because Christianity blew out of
40:23
proportion and Islam too, which also gives creedence to Judaism
40:28
because it has built, has been built on that rock too.
40:31
So these huge 2 monotheistic religions give Judaism as the
40:37
only Stone Age tribal religion in the world credibility and
40:44
thus to a certain degree, intellectual invulnerability.
40:49
And that's being used and abused and misused by the Jews to get
40:53
leverage. And that's why this narrative is
40:58
an exception to all the others because of their intellectual,
41:03
financial, political, religious, ideological, dogmatic influence
41:10
and, and, and position in, in in most countries of the world that
41:13
matters right now. You're making the argument that
41:17
historical revisionism actually does matter.
41:22
Absolutely it matters to them, therefore it matters.
41:26
It should matter to us. Liberation for the Jews from a
41:33
trauma, from a nightmare lies in historical skepticism of that
41:39
Holocaust narrative. Find out for yourself as Jews
41:43
that you have been lied to. You are being lied to your right
41:46
now. You're being traumatized,
41:48
manipulated, brainwashed into this trauma, into this paranoia
41:55
that sets you onto a collision course, not just in the Middle
41:59
East with all the Muslim and and Arab nations and Muslim people
42:05
of Muslim faith, faith, but also in the Western world.
42:09
Increasingly as people wake up, things are being manipulated,
42:13
being influenced. You know, the Epstein fires,
42:16
Yeah, Moscow and Putin are in there.
42:18
But there it's the big elephant in the room, manipulating the
42:23
American, particular American high society elites with
42:27
blackmailing operations. There's so much going on.
42:32
People should be allowed to be skeptical, to wake up and allow
42:36
to to look into these things. The reason why 28 governments
42:41
have outlawed this and to keep spreading is because
42:44
intellectually we skeptics have won and they have a hard time
42:50
suppressing it. Until the Gaza genocide, the
42:54
Holocaust was the best documented genocide in the
42:57
history of the world. Not because of what the Wayne
43:00
stream has done, because of what we skeptics have done over the
43:02
last 35 years. You go to holocausthandbooks.com
43:05
the research series absolutely unparalleled in depth going into
43:10
the archives, analyzing and critiquing witness accounts and
43:15
comparing it with the actual record.
43:17
This is indeed a very solidly researched event.
43:22
The Gaza genocides have not fed out of the ballpark with all the
43:25
live streaming, all the the recording that has happened now.
43:28
The Gaza genocide is definitely the best documented genocide in
43:32
the history and it's still going on.
43:36
It is the Holocaust, the second best documented genocide by us
43:43
to the degree that we can show the mainstream narrative is
43:47
highly flawed. Depending on how you define the
43:51
Holocaust, we can define it in a way where I said, well, the main
43:55
features of that Holocaust homicidal gas chamber 6,000,000
43:58
and in order to exterminate them, these three main pillars
44:02
collapse. And if we say, well, if that's
44:04
gone, then there was no Holocaust, then it's still a
44:06
question of how do you define a Holocaust.
44:09
At least the capital H goes away to place by a small age.
44:13
It was a catastrophe and the I think the Jewish word is is more
44:17
to it. The show are which basically
44:19
means catastrophe and for them it was the Second World War was
44:23
full of catastrophes for everyone, not the least for the
44:27
Germans, for the Russians, for the Ukrainians, for a lot of
44:31
ethnic men, the old Baltic states, the Caucasian states,
44:35
ethnic groups. It was a disaster for Europe and
44:38
for the world, for the Japanese and so on.
44:42
And yeah, the Jews with our narrative integrate into that,
44:46
where everyone in Europe was at the throat of everyone else
44:50
trying to genocidally reduce or wipe them off.
44:54
And the the Jews have no exclusive claim to that.
44:59
And they don't have any exclusive claim to being only
45:02
and always the victims either. After Gaza, they have genocide.
45:06
They have joined the club of genocidal perpetrators.
45:11
You can make the argument that they had a good participation in
45:15
genocide before with or in in massacres with heavy involvement
45:21
of people with Jewish background in the Bolshevik Revolution in
45:24
the early years of the Soviet Union.
45:27
But, but this is a a much more complex matter.
45:30
Fact of the matter is this time around, they can't say all these
45:33
were secular Jews and they just weren't really Jews.
45:36
They were revolutionaries and they had only some part of it.
45:39
There were others too. No, this time in Gaza, it's them
45:42
and it is intentional and it is well planned and executed and
45:47
admitted and recorded and it's entirely Jewish and Zionist and
45:52
there's no other contribution to it, period.
45:56
So they joined the club. They have no status as victims
46:00
anymore exclusively. They're just victims and
46:02
perpetrators history as everyone else.
46:05
This is something, again, that needs to be pointed out.
46:10
You're not saying that a lot of Jews didn't die.
46:16
A lot of all kinds of people died in World War 2, as well as
46:21
in the camps. True.
46:24
Absolutely. The only thing that's being
46:28
contested is basically the iconic murder weapon of the
46:33
homicidal gas chamber. That's a figment of the
46:36
imagination. What is contested on numbers in
46:41
general and as I'm I mean even? Auschwitz.
46:47
Even Auschwitz changed its own numbers.
46:51
Yeah, this way it starts, I mean, the mainstream, if you're
46:54
looking at is it legitimate to revise the narrative, you see
46:58
that the mainstream, the orthodox scholars have revised
47:01
their own narrative over and over again.
47:05
The narrative started out with extreme exaggeration after the
47:09
the war, during the war, and they have been downgraded for
47:12
every kind of Auschwitz you mentioned.
47:13
You know, initially the the Soviets claimed 4 million, but
47:16
there were even claims from from other quarters that were
47:19
claiming more 8,000,009 million. And then it was downgraded off
47:22
the collapse of the Soviet Union down to 1,000,000.
47:25
But even that narrative is incorrect.
47:27
If you look at what can be documented, it is 135,500, which
47:32
is still a massive amount for a camp that existed only between
47:36
basically early 1940s slow start until early 1945.
47:43
So we're talking not quite five years. 135,000 people dying is a
47:48
catastrophe and there's a lot of suffering.
47:53
Most of these people died of disease rather than than violent
47:59
deaths. But at the end of the day,
48:06
suffering doesn't depend on how you die.
48:09
Or sometimes actually dying of typhus can can involve much more
48:15
suffering than than just getting a shot in the head.
48:20
But more or less speaking is of course a difference whether you
48:23
die of typhus that is not intentionally spread by by
48:26
anyone, Except maybe the Polish underground has been fighting
48:30
the German occupation by intentionally spreading typhus.
48:32
Or maybe some of the Jews dying in the camps were a victim not
48:35
of direct German actions. Of course the primary
48:40
responsible is with a person who puts these people in the camp.
48:43
They always have responsibility. But with typhus spreading, and
48:48
that's just a, a curse of the war, it's higher power force
48:54
majeure that is beyond anyone's influence and the collapse of
48:57
infrastructure leading to the impossibility of supplying camps
49:00
with anything and then starvation reaping a, a, a major
49:05
toll. But we have documents showing
49:09
that the Polish underground actually actively spread typhus
49:12
pathogens throughout the country and probably inside the camps
49:16
too. So biological warfare happened
49:19
to some degree during the Second World War by the pro allied
49:24
underground. Yeah, math deaths happened.
49:30
The mainstream has acknowledged that they have repeatedly
49:33
downgraded the figures and the the best example is not even
49:37
Auschwitz is Smidonic. They started out with 2 million.
49:39
After the war, the Polish judiciary turned it down to
49:42
360,000. After the collapse of the Soviet
49:45
Union reduced it down to 235,000.
49:48
And then in 2005 they reduced it to 78,000.
49:51
So we come from 2 million to 78,000, not even 4 million.
49:54
And they threw seven of the originally homicidal, claimed
49:57
homicidal gas chambers. Of the seven, only two are
50:01
standing now. Five were jettismed as
50:04
propaganda. They were claimed, many of them
50:06
for a long time, people visiting the museum for decades, we're
50:10
told this was a gas chamber. And now it doesn't say that
50:13
anymore. The degree of skepticism, the
50:19
degree of revising that narrative is different between
50:25
the orthodoxy and our skeptics, but not the principal.
50:29
They had to revise, throw exaggerated claims out over and
50:33
over again. They don't parade that around.
50:37
They are embarrassed by it. They sweep it under the carpet.
50:39
They just show you what they claim now, not all the things
50:42
that they have downgraded in the meantime.
50:45
We on the other hand, we document you.
50:47
Look, you have lied there. You admitted that you lied.
50:49
You. No, it was not just an error.
50:52
They have said we lied for propaganda reasons.
50:55
We lied because the Soviets were putting guns out of our head in
50:58
the Eastern Bloc, forcing us to say it.
51:00
So again and again, we have these mainstream scholars
51:03
admitting some of them. We lied because we were forced
51:07
to, or we lied because it was ideologically convenient,
51:10
because we were fighting Nazis, and lying about Nazis was a good
51:13
thing to to break them and to destroy them, or so they claim.
51:20
And you just takes adding one and one together, OK.
51:24
They admitted that they lied because they were forced to.
51:28
They have revised their story when they were able to, and now
51:33
they have the most extreme threats of punishment for
51:36
dissent ever in 28 countries. It's worse than it has been, and
51:41
it's getting worse. So why would you believe a
51:44
mainstream historian now that is punishable with 23561020 years
51:52
depending on which country we're talking about in the
51:54
circumstances today to dissent? Why historians are under
52:03
coercion in the Western world? We should not be prohibited from
52:08
discussing events in world history, and the more that we
52:15
are being told not to, the more we should.
52:20
Absolutely. Free speech is the essence of
52:23
humanity that sets us apart from animals.
52:27
And free speech needs defending most where it's threatened most,
52:31
and that's the area where it's threatened most.
52:34
The muscle you don't use, you will lose.
52:37
And free speech is like a muscle.
52:38
If you don't use it, you lose it.
52:41
Exercise, exercising free speech is most important where the
52:44
governments was. Governments want to suppress it
52:48
with most urgency and so that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
52:53
How can I follow your work? I have actually on the screen
52:58
here and not just my name, but my personal website,
53:01
gamerudov.com. You can actually go there and on
53:04
the right hand side, it has links to the various websites
53:06
that I'm involved in, the Holocaust Encyclopedia,
53:09
Holocaust Handbooks, the committee, Committee for Open
53:12
Debate on the Holocaust, Loving for Free Speech, Web Matters
53:15
Most, and Holocaust Academy where we develop educational
53:19
material. So it's all linked.
53:21
From there. You can see what I've done
53:24
personally, the books I've written.
53:25
You can support me there with various ways, buying signed and
53:30
dedicated copies or just downloading some free samples
53:35
and spread it. And that's probably the best
53:38
platform to go to and take it from there.
53:42
Get more Rudolph, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
53:45
Thank you for having having it.