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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, October 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: M celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Do you well, Jackuars?
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Speaker 1: Did you Jack Jaguars? Did you Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan
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Speaker 1: Sex Steps, John o Jo Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts
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Speaker 1: right now. Good morning, and welcome to Jack's Drive Time
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Speaker 1: in this Thursday Morning brought to you by Fields Auto Group.
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Speaker 1: And we said this week wouldn't have any drama or
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Speaker 1: anything like that, but we started the show with a
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey update. So ap News tweeted out this story
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Speaker 1: late last night that Sean Khan told AP News that
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey in his mind, would not be traded. They
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Speaker 1: want him to stay with the team. They're trying to
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Speaker 1: work things out. We've been talking about this for the
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Speaker 1: past week or so that we thought it was going
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Speaker 1: this way, but to see it in writing solidifies what
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Speaker 1: we have been thinking that Sjalen Ramsey is gonna be
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Speaker 1: a Jaguar for the near future. Yeah. If um, if
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Speaker 1: someone offered a herschel Walker sort of you can't turn
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Speaker 1: it down trade then I imagine that Mr Khan would
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Speaker 1: see the value in that. But we're talking about your
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Speaker 1: best player, um, and a guy who changes the game.
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Speaker 1: I think maybe I mentioned this yesterday. If he plays
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Speaker 1: in that game in Denver, you're not having to win
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Speaker 1: at the end because he takes Courtland Sutton out of
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Speaker 1: the game entirely. He doesn't have one touchdown, let alone too. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And that allows a j boy to take Emmanuel Sanders
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Speaker 1: and Trey Herndon isn't pushed. Uh. That's how important he is.
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Speaker 1: And it's just if you own the football team, are
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Speaker 1: you gonna let the best player, a generational player, a
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Speaker 1: guy that you can't find any year, let alone every year. Um,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna walk. No, there's no chance. You have all
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Speaker 1: the leverage in the deal. And so you're just gonna
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Speaker 1: calmly say what mr concept, which is he has great
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Speaker 1: value to us. We're expressing that to him. We'll get
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Speaker 1: past this. I want him to be a Jaguar um.
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Speaker 1: That to me, Ashton is the best outcome of this
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Speaker 1: because it indicates that they're going to figure out a
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Speaker 1: way too. You know, when you and I fight, which
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Speaker 1: we do all the time. I don't know whether people
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Speaker 1: know that or not, but we just we go aty.
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Speaker 1: We just she throws staplers across the office. But we
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Speaker 1: do find a way to come on the show every
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Speaker 1: morning and smile and get along, right kidding, But the
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Speaker 1: reality of it is is that you do have people
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Speaker 1: in every walk of life, in every work environment, where
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Speaker 1: there are disagreements. Jalen said, you know when respect is lost. Well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that respect was lost. Jalen reacted angrily
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Speaker 1: right on the sidelines, and everyone's assuming it's Tom Coughlin
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Speaker 1: who who dressed him down in the locker room after
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Speaker 1: the game. And I think that's probably a fair assumption.
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Speaker 1: But whoever it was, or they overreacted, So did they
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Speaker 1: do anything worse than Jalen did? Right? Right? So from
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Speaker 1: that perspective, can't two people get together and have a
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Speaker 1: conversation about how to go forward? And I think that's
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Speaker 1: what Mr Khan is doing, is he's letting the emotion
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Speaker 1: of the moment get away. Because if you make a
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Speaker 1: business decision and let emotion drive it, someone is losing badly,
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Speaker 1: right one of the other sides. He's winning big and
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Speaker 1: the other is losing badly. Um And I love the approach.
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Speaker 1: It's so calm. I'm not a calm person by nature.
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Speaker 1: I can't always do this, but I can admire it.
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Speaker 1: From others. The emotions have definitely subside, I think, especially
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Speaker 1: from Jalen's point, and we talked about whether the respect
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Speaker 1: was there or not. And I feel like, especially this
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Speaker 1: past week, the Jaguars have definitely had Jalen's back on
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Speaker 1: him going to Nashville to be with this daughter, the
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Speaker 1: back injury, sitting out for his first start. I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear a lot of criticism over the brinkstruck and that
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Speaker 1: probably that grated I know that grated on people. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And you have Mr Ghan saying and he's going to
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Speaker 1: be compensated. So the reality of it is is that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a lack of respect. It was an emotional
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Speaker 1: reaction on both sides part at the time, they're letting
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Speaker 1: it go away. And like the hole in the dry
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Speaker 1: wall above my desk. Uh, you know you can fix that, Yes,
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Speaker 1: so you can. All right, let's get into big things,
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Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one is passed and rush throwing
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Speaker 1: the ball. You better protect this quarterback, gardnerments Panthers have
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Speaker 1: fourteen sacks the last two weeks. You also have to
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Speaker 1: pay attention to Greg Olsen and Christian McCaffrey, James O'Shaughnessy
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Speaker 1: tells us this might be the best defense they've seen
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Speaker 1: all season. Oh, they're a great deal. You know. The
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Speaker 1: front seven is probably the best we've seen yet. Um,
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Speaker 1: they got playmakers all across it. Um they got fifty
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Speaker 1: nine in the show. Who's you know, sideline to sideline
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Speaker 1: every play. Um, So it's gonna be a really good
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Speaker 1: challenge for us. Big thing too, is the backup battle.
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Speaker 1: Not many of us thought when this matchup would come
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Speaker 1: in Week five you'd see Kyle Allen and Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: as the starting quarterbacks. But you have to think maybe
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Speaker 1: both teams at this point are much better than most
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Speaker 1: of us thought in Week five. And Big Thing three
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Speaker 1: is still the one for net versus McCaffrey. Jack took
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Speaker 1: for Nett, but McCaffrey is the NFL's leading rusher through
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Speaker 1: four games this season. Rushing numbers are similar, but if
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Speaker 1: you look at receiving, Christian McCaffrey is winning that well.
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Speaker 1: And and to be fair to Fournett, the Panthers use him,
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Speaker 1: and if the Jaguars had taken McCaffrey, they would be
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Speaker 1: using him the exact same way. I mean, you're talking
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Speaker 1: about the difference between a bull and a gazelle, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean this is Earl Campbell, a bull type running back.
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Speaker 1: He puts his head down and runs over people. Just
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Speaker 1: go back to the way that he played last week
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Speaker 1: in that long eighty one yard run, and now you
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Speaker 1: get McCaffrey, who is incredibly difficult to catch. Take all
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Speaker 1: the young lions on the defense, and they're chasing this
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Speaker 1: gazelle all over the field. I think last week he
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Speaker 1: had a hundred and fifty all purpose yards, more than
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Speaker 1: seventy rushing, more than eight receiving, and a touchdown. So
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Speaker 1: here are the numbers real quick. Here's the difference between them.
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Speaker 1: UM rushing McCaffrey is averaging four point six yards per
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Speaker 1: carrying and scored thirteen touchdowns and as forty five rushing
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Speaker 1: yards UM Leonard has eighty three in only five games.
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Speaker 1: By the way, leonards played twenty five. McCaffrey's played thirty six,
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Speaker 1: UM eight eighty three. He's averaging four yards to carry,
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Speaker 1: he has fourteen touchdowns, So those are incredibly similar numbers.
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Speaker 1: The difference is McCaffrey is two and twelve catches in
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Speaker 1: thirty six games and eleven receiving touchdowns. Leonard has only
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Speaker 1: seventy four catches for six hundred yards, a third of
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Speaker 1: the yardage total and only two touchdowns. It's just a
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Speaker 1: he's been healthier eleven more games and they have not
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Speaker 1: used Leonard in the same way. But they didn't draft
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Speaker 1: Lender to do that. So in terms of the impact
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Speaker 1: on the franchise, well right now and in Leonard's impact
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Speaker 1: was exactly what the Jaguars wanted. McCaffrey's has been more consistent. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll hear more next um block around to hear from
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Speaker 1: Jim Zokie in Charlotte. But you gotta think with the
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Speaker 1: Camp Newton issue and that was so weird how that
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Speaker 1: was handled, and now he's injured, Christian McCaffrey is their
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Speaker 1: go to guys off Well, first of all, everything about
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton is weird. Did you see him after the
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Speaker 1: loss to the Buccaneers wearing the scarf and looking Susan
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Speaker 1: Surrandon from He always has the outfits. The hats one thing,
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Speaker 1: the scarf is another one entirely. Yeah, he's different. So
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Speaker 1: the Alan kid has not um He's not let the
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Speaker 1: world on fire in back to back weeks. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: have the the drama of min Shu mania. But he
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Speaker 1: had four touchdown passes in Caroline. I'm sorry. In Arizona
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Speaker 1: against the Pardners last week, he fumbled a couple of times,
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Speaker 1: didn't have any touchdowns, so you didn't have a great
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Speaker 1: quarterback rating. Um, But then that was a game where
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Speaker 1: I think they scored what four field goals? Right, it
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Speaker 1: was not they won and that's the important thing. This
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Speaker 1: team did not win in Houston. They had a chance.
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Speaker 1: So um, what was at the top. I want to
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Speaker 1: go back the passing, the rush, So obviously they have
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Speaker 1: got to get after the quarterback. They have to. They
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Speaker 1: have got to get after that kid. They had two
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Speaker 1: guys on their injury report this week, a guard and
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Speaker 1: attackle Greg Little, the rookie, the second round pick uh
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Speaker 1: was in the concussion protocol, played his first game last
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Speaker 1: week in Houston. Is back in the concussion protocol. And
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Speaker 1: the right guard, Trade Turner, another one. This defensive line
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Speaker 1: got no pressure, no significant pressure at all. We talked
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Speaker 1: about the feast and fans on Joe Flacco. You must
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Speaker 1: get the pressure. You must because Greg Olsen and McCaffrey
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Speaker 1: are such incredible weapons and they have the the the
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Speaker 1: young receiver from d J Moore from care not from
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Speaker 1: from Maryland, good players all over the place. You better
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Speaker 1: get to this quarterback. He's young, he's not his experienced,
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Speaker 1: his Flacco. If you can get to him, get to him. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it was. It was funny. Um. We talked about the
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Speaker 1: impact Calais Campbell has around the league and how other
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Speaker 1: teams talk about him. A bunch of guys were asked
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Speaker 1: about Luke Kickley, the linebacker yesterday in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: and it was a similar approach to how you hear
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Speaker 1: guys talk about Calais. Was talking to Quincy Williams about him.
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Speaker 1: He's like, man, I've grown up my whole life watching him.
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Speaker 1: To be able to play against him is so cool
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Speaker 1: to me. It was just funny because you hear guys
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Speaker 1: talk about Klais like that, Luke Keickley is there, Calais,
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Speaker 1: He's uh, he's Paula's Lesnie. You know, I mean he
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Speaker 1: no fans paul He's probably a little bigger, a little
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Speaker 1: faster Pauplas Lesnie. And what's interesting about him is earlier
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Speaker 1: in his career struggled with concussion and people thought that
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Speaker 1: this is going to be a great player whose careers
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Speaker 1: cut short because linebackers are always in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the biggest collisions on the field, and yet he has
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Speaker 1: found a way to take care of himself. He is
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Speaker 1: a prose pro just like the Las Campbell. That's a
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Speaker 1: good comparison, absolutely all right. When we come back a
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Speaker 1: of throwbacks going on with that game. As we welcome
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Speaker 1: in Jim Zoki with w b T w F m
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Speaker 1: Z Radio in Charlotte. Jim, how's it going doing great games?
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Speaker 1: What are you're doing Jim z Oki, how are you,
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Speaker 1: pal Brian, the original voice of the Jaguars. It's been
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Speaker 1: twenty five years. Yeah, you've gotten old and you oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: well as you know. Hey, look when you work with
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Speaker 1: were you when when in July a couple months? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I see what I mean. It keeps you young. I
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Speaker 1: was just about to tell go ahead. Has been like
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Speaker 1: sharing memories of her early memories of the Jaguars expansion
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Speaker 1: season all morning. I'll tell you that Jim and I
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Speaker 1: first met in the press box at Fawcett Field, the
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Speaker 1: old Fawcett Field, at the Hall of Fame, when the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars and Panthers squared off in n the very first
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Speaker 1: game Jim, and since then, this game Sunday Um for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars is game five hundred and four. It's just
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Speaker 1: hard to believe it's been that long. It is. And
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Speaker 1: you know, no matter whatever happens in the rest of
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Speaker 1: these franchises history, the Panthers will always have won that
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. And can You'll never get that
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Speaker 1: one game. We owned that game. You can't have it.
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Speaker 1: I love it version the rivalry is still there. Um,
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Speaker 1: so give me a sense of where this Panther's team is.
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Speaker 1: I know I saw the look on the face of
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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera after the loss to Tampa at home. Uh,
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Speaker 1: the injury to Cam Newton, and you're thinking, you know,
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Speaker 1: is anything gonna go right here this season? And you
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Speaker 1: put a rookie quarterback in and we know something about that. Well,
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Speaker 1: the first year quarterback for you guys, and Kyle Allen,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're two and two and right
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Speaker 1: back on your feet in a competitive division. Yeah, very
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Speaker 1: similar storyline, not like a Mania type of story. But quietly,
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Speaker 1: Kyle Allen lights up that first game in Arizona, four
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Speaker 1: touchdown passes and then last week just in terms of
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Speaker 1: the passing game, managed it, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Of course,
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Speaker 1: the bumbles, three bumbles on three quarterback sex and obviously
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Speaker 1: they've been working overtime on getting that problem corrected, which
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Speaker 1: he just deal us on that step with a young quarterback.
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Speaker 1: But you know, he's got poise, He's got a lot
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Speaker 1: of swagger and confidence about himself. People don't know that
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Speaker 1: he was the number one high school recruit coming out
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Speaker 1: of high school and Scottsdale Arizona. Everybody wanted him, just
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Speaker 1: was one of those kids that bounced around from Texas
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Speaker 1: A and under. Houston came to the pros early and
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Speaker 1: he knew he would go undrafted he did, but he
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Speaker 1: always believed in himself and he's showing the world that
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Speaker 1: he at least is a competent player. To this point
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We don't know what his ceiling is.
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Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch and no dealing with some injuries.
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Speaker 1: Of course, trade turn it in practice again yesterday, Grank
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Speaker 1: Little and Brookie offensive tackles. I left tackle last week,
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Speaker 1: is in concussion protocol for a second time. And we
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Speaker 1: put our Pro Bowl and defensive Lindman KK Short on
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Speaker 1: the interviews eerved this week. So Panther's got our dealing
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Speaker 1: with a number of the injuries all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: over the past couple of days. So I just know
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Speaker 1: we had a picture of him up on the screen.
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Speaker 1: He's got a little scruffy facial here. He needs to
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Speaker 1: work on his mustache game. Well, you can't steal it.
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of the fans and Jackson they
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Speaker 1: are probably stealing that musta should support of the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: but Kyle Allen's going to be his own dude, and uh,
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Speaker 1: I think you know, he is very low key, like
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Speaker 1: he's got a swagger in the confidence, but he is
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Speaker 1: not looking for public MSA. Gargnerments who he is looking
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Speaker 1: for that necessarily, But that's that's kind of Kyle Allen's personality.
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Speaker 1: How has he handled you know, he's on a team
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Speaker 1: with some superstars now, I mean McCaffrey is a household
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Speaker 1: name and Olsen is too. I really like what you're
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Speaker 1: getting from d J. Moore And of course on the
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, there are some big personalities
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Speaker 1: over there as well. You know in Jacksonville because we
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Speaker 1: have the similarity. Uh, they are captivated by by Minshew.
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Speaker 1: I mean when he brought them back last week with
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Speaker 1: the touchdowns in the third quarter, there was a line
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Speaker 1: of players who wanted to congratulate him. How have the
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Speaker 1: veterans and Kyle Allen um come together? It's been fun
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Speaker 1: to watch because you know, we started the season, like
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Speaker 1: you guys, there were two losses and Cam was you know,
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Speaker 1: out there kind of tooling around on a bad foot
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Speaker 1: and didn't run at all. Wasn't playing like Cam Newton
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Speaker 1: at all. And so not his fault. But then Kindle
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Speaker 1: Allen comes in a week three and immediately put some
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Speaker 1: points up in that game and the bench is going crazy.
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Speaker 1: And five there was like his energy that they just
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Speaker 1: kind of surrounded this reinvigoration had kind of Alan out
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Speaker 1: there at quarterback, so they've quickly brought him in. It's
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Speaker 1: great holding a vetter again, like Gregor Olson has been
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Speaker 1: around so long, because we know there's time. So they'll
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Speaker 1: come out of the huddle, they'll line up and somebody
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Speaker 1: will be not at the right spot or even Kyle
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Speaker 1: Allen is an exactly shore we're so supposed to be
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Speaker 1: and Greg almost like the backup quarterback there. I tell you,
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Speaker 1: then we'll redirect somebody to where they're supposed to be
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Speaker 1: for a certain play. Those there's still a certain amount
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Speaker 1: of learning that's going on with him in North Turns offense.
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Speaker 1: But you know you're dealing with up basically, you said
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Speaker 1: almost a rookie, you gol had the three starts in
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Speaker 1: this league over two years, and you just got some
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Speaker 1: growing pains and now that's that could be perfect. You're
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Speaker 1: just trying to do enough to win the game. Watching
16:35
Speaker 1: the All or Nothing series on Amazon. I now like
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Speaker 1: Greg Olson more than I ever did. His personality cracks
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Speaker 1: me up. I didn't know much about him, but after
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Speaker 1: watching that show, was like, wow, that is a funny
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Speaker 1: guy to be around. Uh. Cam Newton. From the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the season, he's he's not injured. Now he is injured.
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Speaker 1: What's the timeline with him coming back if he does?
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Speaker 1: You know one thing that coach Are Barry's asked about
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Speaker 1: every single week says there is no time table, and
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Speaker 1: he's not have been putting it like as a week
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Speaker 1: to week. You just will say there's no timetable. When
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Speaker 1: he's healthy. He's healthy, and so at this point he's
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Speaker 1: doing its Frank's quick injury. Um, yeah, I guess they're
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Speaker 1: they're secretive because there are a lot to be secretive
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Speaker 1: about it. Did they have to tell you he's got
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Speaker 1: to put injury that's why he's out. But they're not
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Speaker 1: obligated to go in detail, and they don't have an answer.
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Speaker 1: It's not like say a high ankle spraining. We just
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Speaker 1: kinda know it's gonna be four or five, six weeks
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Speaker 1: or whatever. They said, basically when he feels healthy enough,
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Speaker 1: because uh, you know what came rely relies on a
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Speaker 1: lot is his athleticism and his ability to run. So
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Speaker 1: if he can't do that, uh, he becomes one dimensional
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Speaker 1: and not nearly as effective. And of course he affects
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Speaker 1: your pantsing game as well. So no timetable to answer
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Speaker 1: your question. We'll see And in the meanwhile, we're kind
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Speaker 1: of living week to week with kind of allan. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what their broad perspective is on that, but
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Speaker 1: you know, they've won two in a row and got
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Speaker 1: got a hot hand drawing right now, we know the
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Speaker 1: week to week feeling, that's for sure. Hey tell us
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Speaker 1: about the loss of Kuan Short, who's you know, in
17:59
Speaker 1: all Pro caliber player, but the defense has been terrific.
18:03
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that this has been an ongoing thing with
18:06
Speaker 1: Short that generally happens with the shoulder injuries. How much
18:09
Speaker 1: of a contribution did they get from him before they
18:12
Speaker 1: put him on IR this week? And does it show
18:15
Speaker 1: the depth of this defensive front that they've played well
18:18
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been a percent Yeah, it is because
18:22
Speaker 1: they've got four teen sacks in the last two games
18:24
Speaker 1: and so they've been playing great. That's what Okay, one
18:26
Speaker 1: shore who was in the Pro Pole last year and
18:29
Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, one of the best defensive tackles
18:31
Speaker 1: in this link. So you don't want to lose Some
18:33
Speaker 1: of the good news is what they did this all season.
18:35
Speaker 1: Let's go out and address pass rush. And the biggest movie,
18:39
Speaker 1: of course they made was bringing in Joe McCoy from
18:40
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay after nine years there, spent their first round
18:43
Speaker 1: pick on Brian Burns right and Bruce Irvin the Floomers
18:46
Speaker 1: Seahawk Riter Falcon, and so it's it's like the second
18:50
Speaker 1: unit comes in and in no particular order or mix
18:53
Speaker 1: and match and three four and four three and you
18:56
Speaker 1: can't tell him. Last week, burn and Butler at the
18:58
Speaker 1: biggest play strip Sablo turned the game around and uh,
19:02
Speaker 1: you know the guy they're activating our practice by Ryan
19:04
Speaker 1: Cox Jr. Was active for some games last year and
19:06
Speaker 1: he's a pass rusher. But guys most people outside of
19:09
Speaker 1: Carolina haven't heard of, like Marquis Haynes, a f a obada.
19:13
Speaker 1: You know, they come in and they can make some
19:14
Speaker 1: them big plays, and they just have to make their contribution.
19:16
Speaker 1: They don't have to be Mario Anderson, who is our
19:19
Speaker 1: best quarterback snapper. He's got five and a half he's
19:22
Speaker 1: got five in the last two games, and uh and
19:24
Speaker 1: he's one of the best the Panthers have ever head
19:26
Speaker 1: at that position. So by committee, but a really good
19:28
Speaker 1: committee over the county players up front. I've got one
19:32
Speaker 1: more for you, Jim. So. We were in the locker
19:33
Speaker 1: room yesterday and whenever we talked about Calais Campbell and
19:36
Speaker 1: we hear what other teams think of him, we always
19:38
Speaker 1: hear what great honor and just great positivity he has
19:41
Speaker 1: around the league. And we were talking about Luke Kickley,
19:43
Speaker 1: and all of the guys in the Jaguars locker room
19:45
Speaker 1: were saying how excited they were to play against him
19:47
Speaker 1: and how they've been watching him when they grew up.
19:49
Speaker 1: In no offense to Luke, but if it was me,
19:51
Speaker 1: I would kind of feel old with that because Quincy
19:53
Speaker 1: Williams was telling us how he's growing up his entire
19:55
Speaker 1: life watching Luke Kickley. What's it like to have a
19:58
Speaker 1: guy like that so steady, even kill, a guy you
20:01
Speaker 1: can always count on With the Panthers, he is just
20:04
Speaker 1: the real deal. I mean, he's obviously one of the best,
20:07
Speaker 1: is not the best tacklers in pro football. He is
20:11
Speaker 1: a film study, junkie, I mean he just you saw
20:15
Speaker 1: the Amazon series. I mean that's real, and that's all
20:18
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, he studies like a coach and
20:21
Speaker 1: those tendencies, and he'll make some big plays that are
20:23
Speaker 1: basically strictly from us additional film study that he does.
20:27
Speaker 1: So he's smart, he's intuitive, he's athletic. He came out
20:30
Speaker 1: of Boston College as a leading tackler in the nation twice.
20:33
Speaker 1: But he was viewed as a first and second down guy,
20:35
Speaker 1: that he would tackle a running back with the last
20:37
Speaker 1: coup off feel a third down in the pros, and
20:39
Speaker 1: he proved from day one in the pros that is
20:41
Speaker 1: not the case. He's a sidelined to sideline guy. He's
20:44
Speaker 1: very good in past coverage. He's able to get after
20:46
Speaker 1: the quarterback as they sent a monoplitz and again, like
20:49
Speaker 1: I mentioned greg Ols, again, that'll set the defense out
20:51
Speaker 1: there and he'll line people up the right way. So
20:53
Speaker 1: he knows his job, your job, and every one of
20:56
Speaker 1: the eleven job on the defensive side out there, and
20:58
Speaker 1: he just backs it up with being a six on
21:00
Speaker 1: top of that, which, by the way, is just how
21:02
Speaker 1: Jim Zoki has handled the entire broadcast booth for twenty
21:05
Speaker 1: five years. It doesn't matter who the play by play
21:07
Speaker 1: guys been, who the talent has been. Jim can do
21:09
Speaker 1: their jobs. He can do the sidelines, he can do
21:12
Speaker 1: the pregame, you can do the post game. Yeah, he
21:15
Speaker 1: can do it all. Uh. You know, a good friend
21:17
Speaker 1: of mine and a longtime NFL gentleman who has retired
21:21
Speaker 1: and now living in the Carolina Is once said to me,
21:25
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21:27
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21:31
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21:33
Speaker 1: you've really done something in this league. And Jim Zoki
21:36
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. Jim, thanks so much for
21:37
Speaker 1: your time. Guys have an appreciate Yeah, right, well we'll
21:45
Speaker 1: see in the press box. Yeah, exactly right, fair enough,
21:49
Speaker 1: we'll see a Sunday Jim, sounds good. You got it,
21:53
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Speaker 1: on the practice field today here from Coordinator's day. Got
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Speaker 1: a lot going on, but first let's go around the
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Speaker 1: locker room. Because the guys were back yesterday after a
23:59
Speaker 1: victory Monday day off Tuesday, it was a minshoe field
24:02
Speaker 1: locker room because of course, what else would be going
24:04
Speaker 1: on right now? Is there anything going on to Jacksonville
24:07
Speaker 1: other than Gardner minship. As I was coming over the
24:10
Speaker 1: inter Coastal Bridge Atlantic this morning, there's this great big
24:13
Speaker 1: picture of him and I saw, I means a billboard child,
24:18
Speaker 1: And I have to say again, you know, before the
24:21
Speaker 1: Falcons game, we talked to Doug in a production meeting
24:24
Speaker 1: for our television broadcast and he said, this kid still
24:27
Speaker 1: has to prove to me he can be my backup.
24:30
Speaker 1: And to see that picture this morning, it puts everything
24:33
Speaker 1: into perspective. But a few weeks can do. It's an
24:36
Speaker 1: amazing story. It's amazing. And speaking of that doubt in
24:40
Speaker 1: the preseason, we talked to Gardnerment too in the press
24:42
Speaker 1: conference and he said, the doubters and nonbelievers, the haters,
24:46
Speaker 1: as the kids call him, you don't pay attention to them. No,
24:50
Speaker 1: I just gotta play, um, complete balls, throw it on time,
24:53
Speaker 1: you know, do my job, um, because at the end
24:55
Speaker 1: of the day, I got guts here that count on
24:56
Speaker 1: me and I don't have anything to do with anybody else.
25:00
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know, only the locker room.
25:03
Speaker 1: And you know I drove. I parked this morning and
25:08
Speaker 1: I parked right next to him. And I don't park
25:09
Speaker 1: in the player's corral, right, you don't know, I don't.
25:12
Speaker 1: It's amazing, right You think they give that to me
25:14
Speaker 1: after twenty five years or they don't, And I'm good
25:17
Speaker 1: with that. But the point is is that he doesn't either.
25:21
Speaker 1: And I started starting quarterback. He could very easily park
25:26
Speaker 1: wherever he wants right other than Mr con spot Um.
25:31
Speaker 1: But he doesn't he And I think that to me.
25:34
Speaker 1: When I saw that this morning, I went, Okay, I
25:36
Speaker 1: like this because it says he's not gotten too full
25:38
Speaker 1: of himself. Uh. They don't let rookies park in that
25:42
Speaker 1: corral until they make the team. Well, you're not just
25:44
Speaker 1: you didn't make the team. You are making the team
25:48
Speaker 1: right now. You easily could parked in a lot. You
25:50
Speaker 1: are making the season with the way that you're playing.
25:52
Speaker 1: Because if he came in and played like you did
25:54
Speaker 1: in the preseason and Nick Foles is down, we're talking
25:56
Speaker 1: about oh and four seasons already over and it's Daddy
26:00
Speaker 1: has not just got you to two and two and
26:02
Speaker 1: the season is far from over. Um, but he has
26:04
Speaker 1: given your team everything it needs, including marketing right selling tickets.
26:09
Speaker 1: They are selling tickets for the Saints game. Absolutely if
26:12
Speaker 1: you want to come to that game, by the way,
26:13
Speaker 1: you might want to get your tickets now because it's
26:15
Speaker 1: all the romania everywhere. It's no, it is. It is
26:18
Speaker 1: true that he easily and you think with all the
26:20
Speaker 1: success he's had in the past couple of weeks, you'd
26:22
Speaker 1: see most people change from that. He is not, and
26:25
Speaker 1: almost it's like he doesn't want that attention on him.
26:28
Speaker 1: A bunch of the questions in the press comments were
26:29
Speaker 1: about the mustache and everything's going on with the marketing.
26:33
Speaker 1: Since you say that his answers are he answers the question.
26:37
Speaker 1: He answers it directly. He has a little bit of
26:40
Speaker 1: fun with it. But he doesn't stand there and pontificate
26:42
Speaker 1: like some people do. He gets in, he answers your question,
26:44
Speaker 1: he moves on. It's almost as if he is trying
26:46
Speaker 1: to deflect it. Right right, He's still gonna wear the
26:49
Speaker 1: headband and the mustache and the sunglasses and the gene
26:53
Speaker 1: sh hurts um. He's still gonna do that. But he doesn't.
26:57
Speaker 1: He doesn't need you or I to care, or to
26:59
Speaker 1: lie get or to want to look like that in
27:02
Speaker 1: order for him to be him. He's just him. He
27:04
Speaker 1: is genuine. Someone asked me the other day, who is he?
27:07
Speaker 1: To me? He's Ken Stabler, the Hall of fame worthy
27:11
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Oakland Raiders, who was a free spirit
27:14
Speaker 1: baby and one of the best uh and a gun
27:18
Speaker 1: slinger too. He was He was bred far before bred
27:22
Speaker 1: Farve and and Min choose the perfect blend of Farv.
27:26
Speaker 1: Even though within at Farve's arm he's got the gun
27:28
Speaker 1: slinger mentality and uh Stabler who's the free spirit? And
27:31
Speaker 1: if I could choose two quarterbacks, free spirit is a
27:37
Speaker 1: good way to put it. A J boy who is
27:39
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshoo's locker mate. He sits in between a J
27:42
Speaker 1: boy and d. J. Chark said. The best thing about
27:44
Speaker 1: Gardner Man Shoo's he's been even keeled this entire time.
27:47
Speaker 1: He know it was only first quarter to season. We
27:49
Speaker 1: still got a long way to go. And just to
27:51
Speaker 1: really not buy inte the hype or anything like that
27:53
Speaker 1: and just stay focused. That's a lot. You know, he's
27:56
Speaker 1: next to me in DJ and the locker room, so
27:57
Speaker 1: we see it every day and just to have that approach,
27:59
Speaker 1: you know, it shows that he's not complacent, he's still working,
28:02
Speaker 1: and it just gives a good message to the whole
28:04
Speaker 1: locker room to just keep working. Now, I wouldn't peg
28:07
Speaker 1: for Boy and Garnerman should really hang out much together,
28:10
Speaker 1: but because they are lockermates, you see the three of
28:12
Speaker 1: them all the time together, Boy Gardnermans DJ Charker. You know,
28:15
Speaker 1: after watching, after watching the players line up, you know
28:19
Speaker 1: get in line literally like they're a kindergarten class on
28:23
Speaker 1: the sideline. To congratulate him. Um, he's you know, he's
28:29
Speaker 1: got that coolness to him because he's just so fun
28:33
Speaker 1: to be around and himself at all times and not
28:35
Speaker 1: overly inflated. There's not a lot of drama. You don't
28:39
Speaker 1: have to really work to be friendly with him. Um,
28:42
Speaker 1: I can see where he could hang out with. You
28:43
Speaker 1: name a player, Marcel Darius, a big defensive tackle, right,
28:47
Speaker 1: you name it. I could see him going and hanging
28:49
Speaker 1: out of the movies with marcelle I could too. And
28:51
Speaker 1: finally we heard Dug Moron on Good Morning Football this
28:53
Speaker 1: morning say he has trouble growing a mustache. You can't
28:55
Speaker 1: really get into the mustache trend. DJ Chark is with
28:58
Speaker 1: him could not grow on like Gardner has. I mean,
29:03
Speaker 1: everybody don't have that talent. DJ was a little upset
29:08
Speaker 1: about that he had to put on the fake one.
29:09
Speaker 1: He told me before he put on the fake mustache
29:11
Speaker 1: that he's been growing the mustache. He had under that
29:14
Speaker 1: for twenty three years and it's about ten little hairs.
29:17
Speaker 1: And he said, when I ripped this off, it's gone forever.
29:19
Speaker 1: So thanks a lot for the fake mustache. As someone
29:22
Speaker 1: who has to shave every morning, I would like to not,
29:26
Speaker 1: but it just it's uncomfortable to me. I couldn't do it. Yeah,
29:29
Speaker 1: DJ said he took one for the team and wanted
29:30
Speaker 1: to play along, but he was a little upset that
29:33
Speaker 1: that tenure mustache was. If this becomes some sort of
29:37
Speaker 1: a trend, fad craze, keep me out of it. You've
29:42
Speaker 1: seen the locker room guys. I don't think the guys.
29:44
Speaker 1: I don't think we look good on Really, I've been trying.
29:46
Speaker 1: You don't notice the different now. I think the people
29:49
Speaker 1: closest to you would probably tell you the same thing. Really,
29:52
Speaker 1: my dad was all for it. He said, you might
29:54
Speaker 1: lose your job, but at least it's the friend. Think
29:57
Speaker 1: that's the interesting one. I haven't asked, nor will I ever.
30:00
Speaker 1: I love it. Independent, free spirit, that's right. That is me,
30:04
Speaker 1: all right. When we come back, some final thoughts and
30:06
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Speaker 1: have not talked about him enough, this show, Gardner Minshew
31:57
Speaker 1: this morning, right before the show, was named NFL Offensive
32:00
Speaker 1: of a Rookie of the Months, first time the Jaguars
32:04
Speaker 1: have had a an offensive Rookie of the Month since
32:09
Speaker 1: Byron Lethwidge was a rookie in two thousand in three.
32:13
Speaker 1: You did your research on this well, I know the
32:15
Speaker 1: right press releases to read. Um, it's been a long
32:19
Speaker 1: time and you know they've had some good young players.
32:22
Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew was never named Offensive Rookie of the
32:27
Speaker 1: mom I mean, who else are you gonna give it to?
32:29
Speaker 1: You can't make an argument, no, no, no, no, no
32:32
Speaker 1: no no, he's not the offensive player of the month
32:35
Speaker 1: because a guy named Pat mahomes Uh stands at the
32:38
Speaker 1: top of that list. But in terms of rookie performers, no,
32:41
Speaker 1: he's taken it by storm. And not to mention a
32:43
Speaker 1: great week for the Jaguars, you have Josh Lambo, a
32:45
Speaker 1: f C Special Teams Player of the Week and a
32:48
Speaker 1: week after um Calais Campbell was the a f C
32:51
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week. And look, the awards are nice.
32:55
Speaker 1: I think the players would like it more if there
32:56
Speaker 1: was cash involved. However, it's worth pointing out that when
33:00
Speaker 1: you're winning awards individually, it's generally because your team is
33:04
Speaker 1: performing at a high level. Minshew was playing well in
33:07
Speaker 1: the two losses to Kansas City in Houston, Calais has
33:10
Speaker 1: played well throughout and obviously Lambeau has been money. So
33:14
Speaker 1: if you have guys winning individual awards your team is
33:17
Speaker 1: doing well. Absolutely no, you can't win them without a
33:20
Speaker 1: team win. You have to think if the Jaguars don't
33:22
Speaker 1: get it done in Denver, does Gardner win this award
33:25
Speaker 1: with that final drive and everything existing? I think the
33:27
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