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Patriots Unfiltered 7/22: Training Camp Week, Mike Vrabel Press Conference Reaction, Veterans Report · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 4: at Gillette Stadium and we are training camp. Eve players
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  Speaker 4: are here, but camp opens for the public tomorrow, so
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  Speaker 4: can't wait for that. It's going to be crazy. So
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  Speaker 4: it was exciting that first day people get here. Some
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  Speaker 4: people get here early as four in the morning just
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  Speaker 4: to get in line and make sure that they're front
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  Speaker 4: and center and the bleachers for practice. So that'll be
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  Speaker 4: fun to see. It's gonna it's gonna be good weather.
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  Speaker 4: It's supposed to be nice.
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  Speaker 6: Beautiful, great day to day.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry, Paul, is that rubbed in as we're getting
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  Speaker 8: ready to turn the page the train?
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  Speaker 5: But you know, I thought you were going in another direction.
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  Speaker 5: You know it's ten degrees cool, then I would like it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a little cool for you. It's only like
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  Speaker 8: seventy five right now. This to me is perfect.
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  Speaker 4: Oh it's it's beautiful weather.
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  Speaker 6: But good start to camp for the weather. Those seems
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  Speaker 6: like that. Now you can throw that back in my
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  Speaker 6: face on Friday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be hot if I'm sweating it all
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  Speaker 5: it's supposed to be like tipping the knocking on the
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  Speaker 5: door of one hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Oh is that right?
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  Speaker 6: It's like ninety seven?
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  Speaker 4: I think did that happen?
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  Speaker 6: A tough day? The weather's constantly changing Friday? Yea, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I like New England. If you've ever heard that phrase,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't like the weather.
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  Speaker 4: All right, it's Paul, it's Deuce, it's me. It's Matt
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  Speaker 4: and the Booth talking Patriots talking training camp. And we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a little game later on, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: finally do the game where we guess the listener. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna show pictures of some of our more famous listeners
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna have to guess who's who.
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  Speaker 6: So, so you guys know some of them are They're all.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think I'm gonna have to just qualify I
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  Speaker 6: saw from a couple of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. So we have ten here, Yeah, of
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  Speaker 4: which three I met personally.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think I've met at least three personally.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I might have to accuse myself from three
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  Speaker 4: of them, but I want to play the others.
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  Speaker 8: I'm excited to see Christian in La I don't I
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  Speaker 8: don't know what he looks like, but I imagine he's
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  Speaker 8: in you know, some kind of luxurious setting and it's
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  Speaker 8: gonna be trolling our other listeners, I hope.
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  Speaker 6: With his picture.
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  Speaker 4: So all right, So we'll play that a little later.
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  Speaker 4: But first up, Mike Rabel the media today and you
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  Speaker 4: guys were present, So what did you take away from that?
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  Speaker 6: Ready to go?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he's I think like all of us
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  Speaker 8: were ready to get the train rolling. It sounded like
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  Speaker 8: they like what they did in the spring. But I
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  Speaker 8: always hear from Brabel it sounds like he's a teacher,
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  Speaker 8: and that's to me what really where his coaching starts.
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  Speaker 6: It sounds like that's what he, you know.
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  Speaker 8: Sees his biggest motivation teaching these guys, you know, earning.
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  Speaker 6: Their trust, developing relationships with them.
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  Speaker 8: You hear him talk about that so much, and watching
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  Speaker 8: him through the spring, it's clear that's what he wants
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  Speaker 8: to do.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to different players.
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  Speaker 8: And I think, you know, I'll let Paul talk about,
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  Speaker 8: you know, one of our favorite quotes that he that
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  Speaker 8: he had about you know, being surprised by anything.
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  Speaker 6: I think that was the question, Paul, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was just about like the competition level and
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  Speaker 5: what does he most look forward to and you know,
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  Speaker 5: in camp And it was you know, in question that
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  Speaker 5: Dan Roach asked pretty late in the press conference, and
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  Speaker 5: I thought it got an interesting answer, and he said
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  Speaker 5: that he's always most excited to see a guy in
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  Speaker 5: pads that looks better I'm paraphrasing, that looks better than
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  Speaker 5: he did without pads. So in other words, the guy
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  Speaker 5: comes out and he's you know, maybe more physical, a
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  Speaker 5: better better tackle or better breaking tackles, better contact balance.
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  Speaker 5: I think was a phrase that he used, you know,
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  Speaker 5: kind of the opposite of when we talk about like
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  Speaker 5: these guys look great in shorts and T shirts. Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: guys look better when the pads come on. And he
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  Speaker 5: said it happens every year and it's it's always one
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  Speaker 5: of the most exciting things that he finds like a
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  Speaker 5: notable one.
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  Speaker 6: No, that would have been a good follow up.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean he also hasn't been here, so if we do
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  Speaker 6: know but like.
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  Speaker 8: In Tennessee, yeah, you know, well, I mean maybe somebody
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  Speaker 8: like Jack Gibbons, I would say, but yeah, undrafted you
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  Speaker 8: know guy, and there would.
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  Speaker 6: Have been it would have been a good follow up. Question.
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  Speaker 6: It was very late.
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  Speaker 5: In fairness to it was very late explain.
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  Speaker 8: Might have been kind of one of those guys I
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  Speaker 8: would bet, an unheralded kind of guy that doesn't have
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  Speaker 8: the crazy height or the crazy speed or anything. But
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  Speaker 8: the sum is greater than its parts. I think that's
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  Speaker 8: what what he was getting out a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, sounds like he's excited to get going.
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  Speaker 8: A lot of talk about just the first few days
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  Speaker 8: of practice, the ramp up period, a couple of days
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  Speaker 8: of helmets, a couple of days of shells. We'll get
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  Speaker 8: into pads next week. But you know, he's clearly still
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  Speaker 8: excited to get into pads. But that was a lot
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  Speaker 8: of the gist of it, just how are we going
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  Speaker 8: to manage things?
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  Speaker 5: And he did open with you know, I thought a
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  Speaker 5: lot of I mean, not necessarily breaking news, but a
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  Speaker 5: lot of very positive I think developments in terms of
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  Speaker 5: the It sounds like everybody's here first and foremost. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he talked about digs specifically. He said, it's a testament
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  Speaker 5: to you know the fact that you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: people know now that he is ready to go.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't open on any lists.
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  Speaker 5: We'll go over the individual players that are on NFI
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  Speaker 5: and PUP right now, Diggs was not one of them.
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  Speaker 6: So that's an update for.
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  Speaker 4: An according show. And he's supports he's fully clear.
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  Speaker 6: He's fully clear.
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  Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean he has to be in order
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  Speaker 5: to not be on one of those lists because he's
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  Speaker 5: clear to practice. So that's a really exciting development. He said,
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  Speaker 5: it's a testament to how hard he's worked.
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  Speaker 4: So does that mean when they put the pads on
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  Speaker 4: next week he'll have pads on?
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  Speaker 6: Yep?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yep, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now, now Mike said that he's not saying that he's
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  Speaker 5: going to play.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's a surprise.
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  Speaker 5: He's clear to go every every play, it's not that
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  Speaker 5: doesn't mean he's going to go every play. So I
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  Speaker 5: think he's trying to nip it in the butt like,
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  Speaker 5: oh he was on a pitch count or this or that.
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  Speaker 5: No one's going to go every play. He made a
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  Speaker 5: I thought a point to say that, So that a
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  Speaker 5: good development with we see a lot of practice when
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  Speaker 5: they're in shorts, but then the pads come on and
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  Speaker 5: they're not. No, I mean that's not the case for
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  Speaker 5: so the first day of pads I think is going
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  Speaker 5: to be Monday. Yeah, I'd be surprised if he's not
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  Speaker 5: in pads. I don't know how you feel about it, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's good to go to go. According
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  Speaker 6: to what.
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  Speaker 5: Mike said today, he's that's pretty that's amazing.
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  Speaker 6: Ye, just manage him a little bit, make sure there's
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  Speaker 6: no sweat.
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  Speaker 5: Just think if those things get sort of cast aside
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  Speaker 5: like it's all individuals. It's an individual And Wes Welker
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  Speaker 5: played in the preseason games and he tore his ACL
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  Speaker 5: the last game of the season and he was ready
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  Speaker 5: to go. He cut two cut, seven passes and two
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  Speaker 5: touchdowns in week one of the twenty ten seasons.
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  Speaker 6: So it's not unprecedented.
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  Speaker 5: And I also thought Mike had another subtle thing Marcus Epps.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I was just gonna say, same thing. Yep,
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  Speaker 5: no lists for Marcus Apps. Now he's been flying under
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  Speaker 5: the radar. He's one of the lesser known free agents
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  Speaker 5: that they have acquired in the off season. Well evidently
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  Speaker 5: he's coming off of torn a cl two and he's
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  Speaker 5: not on a list. So I kind of thought that
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  Speaker 5: was Mike's way of saying, let's relax on, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 5: building a statue for sure, but he did say in
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  Speaker 5: complimentary fashion to Diggs, it's a testament to how already
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  Speaker 5: has worked.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: A couple other tibets though from that where Tavai said,
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  Speaker 8: expect him back out there tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: So why don't you read it the guys that are opened.
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  Speaker 4: So the.
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  Speaker 8: So Mac Collins, Austin Hooper, Vederian Low, and Jilanie Tovai
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  Speaker 8: and he said, Tovay, we expect will be out there tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: So that, you know, kind of weird to me though
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  Speaker 6: just we knew he was injured.
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  Speaker 8: He probably came back, he tested, he had to start,
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  Speaker 8: but then he's okay in a couple of days, and
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  Speaker 8: there's probably some kind of mechanism that.
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  Speaker 5: I'll get to that I'll get to that momentarily.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And then uh, and then Carlton Davis, Mincoln's and Webb
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  Speaker 8: are the other three on the NFI list, And he
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  Speaker 8: said he expected, uh was it Davis and Mincolns. I
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  Speaker 8: think Davis and Mincoln's will both be out.
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  Speaker 5: There, no tomorrow, Davis and Webb Davison probably mencons might
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  Speaker 5: be another couple of days. Yeah, So without knowing specifics
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  Speaker 5: other than Tava. We know he's dealing with a calf injury.
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  Speaker 5: My guess is he wasn't physically ready to take the
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  Speaker 5: conditioning run or they wanted to push him back, and
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  Speaker 5: maybe he felt like he was ready and they pushed
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  Speaker 5: him back to the everybody else, which is today. Because
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  Speaker 5: Mike also said that the team, the team that arrived
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  Speaker 5: today took the run and they just finished that they're
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  Speaker 5: going to have meetings after lunch.
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  Speaker 6: Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: So my guess is Jolani Tevi did the run today.
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  Speaker 5: That's why they expect him on day tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: It's good time.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas all the other injured guys. So the rookies, the
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks and guys coming off injury or dealing with injury
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  Speaker 5: reported what it was it Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Friday, Friday, Friday.
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  Speaker 5: So my guess is Tovi did not take the conditioning
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  Speaker 5: run that day.
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  Speaker 6: He took it today. Yeah, so it's time for DIVI.
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  Speaker 8: I think we're all wondering how he fits into things
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  Speaker 8: right now. But interesting linebacker among this group and just
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  Speaker 8: has to get out there to start camp. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: it's similar to the rookies where he's in a new sea.
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  Speaker 8: He needs to kind of carve out a role. Same
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  Speaker 8: thing for the rookies.
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  Speaker 6: Just any day those guys miss really sets them back.
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  Speaker 6: So it's good sign. I mean, I think overall the
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  Speaker 6: team is.
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  Speaker 4: Among the wide receivers. Everybody's ready.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody right, everybody's ready, everybody's ready.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Diggs is the only one that Oh no,
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  Speaker 5: Mac Collins, Oh that's still out.
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  Speaker 6: Mac Collins.
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  Speaker 8: He always the forgotten man. I mean Paul I or
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  Speaker 8: actually who was I talking to? Yes, just it was
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  Speaker 8: this morning talking about he's on pup. Maybe he starts
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  Speaker 8: the season on pup. He's out for a few weeks
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  Speaker 8: to begin the season.
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  Speaker 6: It frees up some of the depth a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody if it's one of those deals Mike and I had,
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  Speaker 5: I had a good noodle session this morning.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't seen each other like that.
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  Speaker 11: I have.
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  Speaker 5: I've missed Mike, But I do wonder if that's one
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  Speaker 5: of those that you know, by some time, you know,
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  Speaker 5: everybody keeps talking, well is you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: they're going to keep five, six, maybe seven. You got
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  Speaker 5: a log jam there. There's a lot of players. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: this is a way to buy you some time to
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  Speaker 5: see if sometimes those kind of work themselves out with
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  Speaker 5: something gets injured. I feel like they did that with
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  Speaker 5: Kendrick Bowen last year. I think Kendrick Bowen would have
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  Speaker 5: been ready to go at the start of the season,
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  Speaker 5: but they got two rookies and Jalen Polk and Javon Baker.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they want to see what they can do.
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  Speaker 5: They're integrating some other guys. Kashawan Boody, I think, sort
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  Speaker 5: of came on as Camp went on. So let's see
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  Speaker 5: if we can get those guys some playing time, see
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  Speaker 5: if they can work their way into or out of
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  Speaker 5: the lineup, and we'll buy ourselves some time with three
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  Speaker 5: weeks now, maybe they're doing that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what MATC. Collins is. Somebody als health's
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  Speaker 6: status is.
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  Speaker 4: If I thought Matt Collins was a lock and I
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  Speaker 4: said yes, yes.
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  Speaker 6: I would say yes. I think so.
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  Speaker 8: I mean I connected to Josh, and that's part of
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  Speaker 8: why it might make sense a little bit to delay
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  Speaker 8: him like that.
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  Speaker 6: Josh knows what he has in him, knows how he
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  Speaker 6: wants to use him. There's not a lot probably to learn.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's probably a lot too as just a
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  Speaker 6: fifth receiver. He's got size. You saw what he did
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  Speaker 6: in Buffalo last Special Team's ability really seems like a
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  Speaker 6: really good guy.
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  Speaker 8: I mean he I think I told the story in
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  Speaker 8: here about photo day where he came in and put
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  Speaker 8: some Frank Sinatra on like a day of you know,
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  Speaker 8: so I think he's got one.
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  Speaker 6: Of those magnetic personalities.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think they have a spot for him in a
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  Speaker 6: role for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. Other news Forged and Foxbro episode two, as you know,
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  Speaker 4: dropped on last Friday. Yeah, and it's been pretty well received.
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  Speaker 4: So if anyone has any comments about it, critiques, suggestions,
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  Speaker 4: anything like that, let us know, happy to hear about that.
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  Speaker 8: I well, I like this stuff about Morgan Moses. We've
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  Speaker 8: talked about plenty of that. I mean we think when
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  Speaker 8: it was I think it came off the field during
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  Speaker 8: OTAs like you were in here already starting the show
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  Speaker 8: and I was like, Morgan Moses is holding a session
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  Speaker 8: and that whole act around him and the uncertainty, the
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  Speaker 8: unstability they've had at the tackle position. That's one of
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  Speaker 8: my three big questions Drake's step, what does digs do
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  Speaker 8: for the offense? And are the tackle position is that
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  Speaker 8: settled on the offensive side of the ball. Are Morgan
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  Speaker 8: Moses and Will Campbell going to be enough of an
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  Speaker 8: answer to protect Drake, to protect the edges, and as
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  Speaker 8: we said, Matt Crosby right out of the shoot. So
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  Speaker 8: it's it's going to be challenging right from the get go.
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  Speaker 8: But those are my three big kind of ques lessons
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  Speaker 8: just for this offense yet going.
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  Speaker 4: It's really you know, with training camp, especially early in camp,
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  Speaker 4: it's really hard to say, oh, this player is going
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  Speaker 4: to have a good season. You just don't know. But
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  Speaker 4: what I think we're going to be looking for is
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  Speaker 4: how does a team look as a whole, how you know,
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  Speaker 4: how would the offense look from a fluid standpoint? Is
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  Speaker 4: it in rhythm? Is it you know, is there a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stops and starts? Or is are things being
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  Speaker 4: run efficiently? That's a good one for hid That's what
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  Speaker 4: you're you're kind of looking for early.
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  Speaker 5: Because it's not like you have to break down, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Evan does a great job of sort of recognizing some
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  Speaker 5: of the route schemes that they're in, the concepts that
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  Speaker 5: they're doing, and you don't need necessarily to have that
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  Speaker 5: to be able to say you could tell last year
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  Speaker 5: and the year before that, the offense was going to
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  Speaker 5: struggle based on what you saw it, just like the
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  Speaker 5: fits and starts that Fred's talking about, the constant fall starts,
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  Speaker 5: the sloppiness, the guys being you know, aligned, you know,
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: properly before the snap, not to mention their inability to
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: get open, which was visible to even the most layman
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: football watcher like me. So you could see these guys
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: are not separating. So if you see a change with
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: the discipline first and foremost in terms of false starts, alignment,
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: you know, timings, crisp nature of running the plays, and
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: then some ability to actually throw it and catch it
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: on a more consistent basis, that will be an improvement
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: because you've seen that the last couple of years in camp,
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: even when it's not overly competitive, you can see the
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: guys having trouble uncovering and we'll know it if you
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: see it.
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: What was the camp progression like for you guys watching
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: in the heyday of Brady?
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, were you watching these things surgical? I mean
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: was it? Did the defense punch back a lot? Like?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Was there?
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Was there were they were very competitive? Yeah, but they
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: would be chirping. You know this legendary stories that I'm
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: sure you've heard a million in times of how like
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: Rabel was one of them, Rodney Harrison, ty Law. Those
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: guys used to really give Brady a hard time, and
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Brady relished lighting him up.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Now now it was surgical. Now there would be stretches
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: where the defense would start having the edge and then
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Brady getting mad and it would be time for him
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: to come out. He would refuse to come out because
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: he wanted to keep getting his reps to to make good.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: That happened a few times, but most of the time
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: the ball rarely hit the ground.
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: Now, Fred's right, I mean that's general general terms. It
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: was surgical, no rehuddles, no lineup wrongs.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Almost almost never that yeah, because Brady wouldn't even make
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: false starts. Yes, like false starts happened, not like they
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: did last year.
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: That was that was a typical last year.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: But they had plenty of guys, plenty of offensive linemen
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: taking laps for false starts in you know, the height
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: of the dynasty. But one thing that always stuck out
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: to me too is you know, like sometimes you get
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: some protection in camp and they're not able to get
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: the play and Brady would get very frustrated when he
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: wasn't able to get the timing of a playoff because
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: there was a guy in his face. And remember the
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: day you got really mad at the offensive line. He
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: yelled at them and was like calling him names and
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: stuff and cope. And once when they started like bickering back,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: and he's like calling Fred in the semantic coalkerment, well,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: you know, to tie that stuff a little bit.
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: To Fortune Foxboro, I caught a clip on from Felger
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: and Mass that I thought was a good point from
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: from Felger, and I noticed it too, Rabel kind of
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: pushing Drake May to be forceful to you know, have
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: that kind of presence. And I think you look at
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: Drake May we talk about what step is he going
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: to take? You lose track of you know, he's like
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: a twenty two to twenty three year old kid right
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: now and having to kind of command that Brady had,
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: of course developed and earned respect by winning Super Bowls,
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: but being able to hold his guys accountable. And I
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: think that's something that Mike Vrabel, you know, did himself
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: on the defense. But I saw in Fortune Foxborough him
• 16:57
  Speaker 8: pushing Drake to take those steps, and those aren't the
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: steps that we talk about. We talk about cutting down
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: interceptions and being good in you know, in the red
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: zone and in crunch time, but really growing as a
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: leader and growing in command of the team and being
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: the guy that demands that the that the offense is
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: performing at a certain level. I mean, I think that's
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: a big, big part of Drake's development and I.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Just you know, seeing and Felger.
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: Felger tied it directly to you know, that being Vrabel
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: having such a big hand in Drake's development. Again, we
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: talk a lot about Josh's development and the offense and
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: him grasping what might be more on his plate, having
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: to make calls to the line and those things. But
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: I think the impact that Rabel can have of you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: really just putting a chip a little bit on drakes shoulder,
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: like you said, well, Brady, like demanding that it's perfection.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: And jobol Pepper's favorite mind. You know, you chase perfection,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: but you end up in greatness. Hopefully.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: That's what we see in camp too, is that Drake
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: taking command and you know, calling guys out things that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: Are wrong, you know, like that's where Brady was exceptionalized.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: There was one line that Rabel said. It might have
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: been at a press conference, but it was then forged
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: where he says, you know, we need talking about Drake May.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I need to encourage him. You would never hear Belichick
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: saying that about any quarter man. You know, Like, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: think Rabel in his mind the way he wants to coach,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: he's going to be tough. But I think with a
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: young guy like that, and he mentions it, he's twenty two,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: you know, he's young, Like you need to encourage him.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: You need to accentuate when he does it right and
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: make sure that you're you're acknowledging, yes, you did it right,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: good job, you know, as a kid, right, yeah, I think, yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: At twenty two, seem when I was twenty two, I'm like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: I'm like now, it's like you're still a baby, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: you know, working around NFL players and the expectations and
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: the pressure that's on these guys. It's it's under talked
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: about aspect of Drake that hopefully Brabel has impacted.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So tomorrow, tomorrow we will be out there live with Camp.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Practice starts about ten fifteen or so. We'll be on
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: air probably nine thirty because Rabel will have a press conference.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: We'll cover that live and then we'll go into Prectice
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: and we'll show you everything we're allowed to show you live.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: So make sure you're up, make sure you've got your
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: laptop warmed up, because we'll be streaming everything we can tomorrow, uh,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: starting at uh around you know, nine thirty, nine fifteen, Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: because Rabel's at nine thirty, so we'll be on air
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: nine to fifteen and we'll do Vrabel. We'll start talking
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: about the arrivals. We'll yeah, so we'll have all of
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: that tomorrow, So make sure you're you're with us.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: Where are we sitting from?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: Where's our perch?
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: Are we still up on that we were for ot.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: We're a little lower well yeah, that spot in that
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: new spot?
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yep, make sure and we'll do uh, we'll
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: do the wrap ups after each of the practices, so
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: if you aren't able to watch live, then we'll have
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: a quick ten minute And.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: I just want to I just want to thank Mike
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: for allowing me to be on the Training Camp podcast.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Mike do so experience. We'll see about that, Paul, We'll
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: see how goes.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Now, Mike and I and Evan, we'll do every day
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: just a podcast training camp practice review. It's the training
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: camp podcast.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: You don't have to I mean, there'll be a couple
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: of days where PU will happen right on the heels
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: of a practice, so we'll come right in here and
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: all of us will talk about it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: The goal is to get them done as quickly as
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: close to the end of practice as we can. But
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: there will be days probably that we're doing our regular
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: PU shows that we'll have to we probably won't have
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: time to do it before.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: That's a good idea. I'm gonna put that in there. Yeah,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: as fast as we can. Good good note, good note.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: We do have people writing in.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: And I'm just glad that you allowed me to be
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: on your show.
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: Have you seen any of these schedules that are circulating
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: with a little inside baseball for everybody? You know, all
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: of a sudden you are getting these schedules, You know, things,
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: just take things to expect during camp. Well, you know
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: PU live PU show on opening day and might do
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: so podcast after the show.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: What are you going to be some friends?
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: I thought been formally asked yet, so maybe I got
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: them waiting.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: I got them too excited. Maybe so I'm not I'm
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: not a well maybe they don't.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Need it, which is fine, but like you know, if
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: they do, they should at least.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Usually these things happen, They're like, hey, are you get
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: tomorrow to come down? And so I don't know. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: think there might be new stuff going on.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: So we do have people writing in about Forge and Foxborough.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Ellen Wisconsin thought episode two was fantastic, especially with the
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: limited amount of football activities between the draft and release.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I do have a one big criticism. No, Paul, if
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: you've got a star, I use them.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry I did.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I did issue an apology of public apology last week
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: for not being available for that. I was on vacation
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: when they needed me and just didn't work out.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: I apologize for that. But Mike was on. They tried.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Mike was on talking about what happens in coaches meetings.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: That's right. I mean, who better to so many.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Who better to give you insight into what goes on?
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: And to coaches me Mike do so.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, we talk hockey. Who's this? Voodoo? Writes
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: in Loved episode two, incorporating players from the early Dynasty
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: era and focusing on a specific unit of the team
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: was a good idea, as I liked hearing about the
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: offensive line operation with the new coaches now and how
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: the early two thousands guys like and Drewsey shared their
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: takes on what it's like to play for the Patriots.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Also nice to see Scars still around the building once
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: in a while and speaking to the players. My only
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: qualm would be I wish it was longer because I
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: love it so much. It's nice to see this new
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: era incorporate new ideas for the fans to experience. Also
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: a question, what does a successful stat line look like
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: this season for may Will Campbell and Stefan Diggs.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: Will Campbell, I think it's easy. Seventeen starts at left
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: tackle and no sex. You know, yeah, well yeah, I
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: mean Will jump off from there. But I think that's
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: the best. I think seventeen starts start in every game.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: That's a good one because if he's really a train wreck,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: he's probably not going to stay in there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: You know, there'll be.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Some bumps and bruises along the way, But I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: that's a good one for him. Digs to me, I
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: mean I don't know specifics, but one hundred catches, twelve
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: hundred yards.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: Break a thousand year. I mean, he breaks a thousand years.
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: Give me, I need more than a thousand year. Yes,
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: just pedestrian. That's the you know, the goal of just
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: get over that hump.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: And especially in light of the fact that he is
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: the I think he's going to dominate the targets and
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: whatnot because he's the guy. He's not, you know, like
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Nico Collins was with him in Houston last year, so
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: his numbers were down for him, but Nico Collins is
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: a legit number one guy on the outside.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: They don't have that here.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Somebody online did a compilation of Will Campbell quotes, mostly
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: from college, and he had one that said, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: if you're a defensive lineman and your stat line is
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: one sack of game, you're doing really well. But if
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: you're a tackle and it's one sack of game, you're cut.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: You know, like he he says, all the right, he's.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: Got the mentality question.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: You know, he just oozed his offensive lineman from the
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: moment they drafted him. Hopefully he solves that problem for
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: the next ten years and we don't have to come
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: in here and talk about we have no tackles.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: It is nice, that is true. I never really thought
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: of it that way.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: But a defensive end the ends of the season with
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: seventeen sacks is an all pro, right, And an offensive
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: tackle that allowed seventeen sacks is not an all pro.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Hey, No, he's probably.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Out of the league, right Sean and Freeland, Pennsylvania. I'm
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: glad we're talking football in that jaws. Okay, we can
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: go to Charles if you want.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: We just were talking.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: The Forge and Fox for part two was excellent. That
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Dante scernekia a part was amazing. Keep up the Great Way.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: If there was one critique too much Julian Edelman, Sorry
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to me, he's the most overrated Patriot of all time.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: And also he seems to have a knack of following
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: a mike he didn't like. But I digress. What does
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: that mean?
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: He likes to talk? He likes to hear himself talk.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Also, you have something to say about No, probably nothing.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: I probably should say.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: What do you give Jalen Polk percentage change to make
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: the team? So chance to make the chance to make
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: the team.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm on Polk.
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna I might go down with that ship, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna give him a better than fifty.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Percent chance, which I don't think anyone else would do.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: I would agree.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: I think at this point it would be somewhat surprising
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: if he made the team. I mean, not stunning, but
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: I think Mike is right. I think most people I've
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: seen a handful of projections already, including from one who
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: I value greatly in Mike Reese, had one I think today,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: and did not have Jalen him on.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: I wonder about Kendrick Bourne.
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: I just we've had him here for a while. We've
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: seen him have spurts of good production. His first year
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: year productive. Two years ago when he got hurt, he
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: was having a pretty good season. I just wonder, is
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: that run its course? Is he still on the upswing?
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Have we kind of not on by the stage of
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: his career? The question would be do they feel like
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: they have enough in some of you know, does your
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: guy wrestle, you know, a roll away from him?
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: Does Jalen Polk is he you know?
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Is he better than Kendrick Bourne or Jay Von Baker?
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Is he better than Kendrick Bourne? Dare I say, Efton Chisholm,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: is you know I mean, I think that's a lock
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: that he's not better than Bourne's not better than him.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't even.
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: Not to oversimplify it, but that's kind of the root
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: of it for me. Maybe it is but Polk versus
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: Born and Born a little more probably little more speed,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: a little more versatility, moveing around, handed off to him,
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: that kind of stuff. But Polk a little bit bigger,
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: you know, maybe a little stronger.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure. It's it's what's their preference. How are
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: they going to see the team?
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: You can make a very strong argument that you should
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: be keeping a guy like Jalen Polke over a guy
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: like Kendrick Bourne, not the least of which not one
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: that I like to use. But you can save I
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: don't know, six million dollars I think by letting go Born,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: So I mean I don't care. Like to me, if
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Born with the better player, I would keep I would
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: keep Born, But.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I think right now Bourne is the better player, don't you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's how I feel like. I think you could
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: make a strong argument for Mike's defense. Not that I
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: need to do four mic.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I like when you do because you do it better
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: than me.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: So it's fun to listen, you take the young guy
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: who still has upside.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: I think Bourne is a finished product. He is what
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: he is.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and he might be better than Polk right
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: right now today, but maybe in November that's not the
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: case anymore.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: If it works out the way Mike thinks and hopes
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: it does.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: I'm interested more on Polk is recovering from surgery, so
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: was limited during the spring? Is he limited when we
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: get out there? Does he get opportunities with Drake? May
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: quote from Brabel that stood out to me this year
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: this spring was quarterbacks tell you pretty quick who they like.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: It's who they throw the ball to. And last summer
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: there's really no debate Drake like Jalen Polk. He threw
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: the ball to him a lot. So does he get
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: the is he healthy? Does he get the opportunity to
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: play with Drake and that first offense? And does he
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: continue to get targeted like that? If those things start
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: to line up, then you say maybe he can bounce back.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: If he's buried on the depth chart.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: Maybe it takes him a little while to actually get
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: the red jersey off, and then he's not even getting
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: the reps with Drake.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: You know, then it's headed in the different direction.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I agree that it won't be that hard to figure out.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not telling you you're going to get it right
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: in terms of your roster projection. I get these six
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: receivers making all these seven receivers making it, and you're
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: going to be right. But you will be able to
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: tell if Polk is not part of it, because he
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: was an active part of camp last year, like we
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: I said, and if he's not this year, I would
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: say the writing's on the wall. I would argue that
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Booty sort of wrestled those kinds of opportunities away from
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Polk last year because Booty was not, for sure a
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: highly targeted guy throughout camp until very late he started
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: to come on and as the season began.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: I think the game targets are matter.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Polk started here and Booty started here, and by the
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: middle of September they had switched spots.
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  Speaker 8: That's right for sure, for sure, and that's I mean,
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: that's what it's all about. Gets to the season, get
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: the targets.
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  Speaker 4: on the team plane. I assume they say a private
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  Speaker 4: But you're gonna go privately. You're not gonna go commercial
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  Speaker 4: to the game in New Orleans, which we've been to
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: New Orleans many times for games. It's probably one of
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  Speaker 4: the best cities for a football game because everything is walkable.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I don't think Mike.
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  Speaker 6: Isn't Is that where one of those Super Bowls was played?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, two of them? Never not once, Yeah, watch
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  Speaker 4: it on TV though, many of them, but two that
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  Speaker 4: we've been involved in.
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  Speaker 6: One for me, oh yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: But it's a great place to watch a Super Bowl.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: I was a fan at the other and.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: You were like burning the midnight oil at that ninety
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  Speaker 6: I was fanboy. I had my jew jersey on in
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  Speaker 4: So it's a good take for ten bucks.
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  Speaker 6: Good deal, that was great, buy a ticket.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: I also I can officially announce I will be speaking
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: before practice.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: I just get that twelve nineteen. Now, we just got
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: the emails. So if you're gonna come Thursday, yeah, we'll
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: be We'll be out there. Maybe there's no better hype
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: man in the business than Mike do so gets you
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: fired up.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Do you know who you'll be with.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Put your hands, yes, I think for Mike the Salt.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: So it'll be fun. I love camp, you know. It's
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: like Paul always says, like the first day, like this
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: is great the first.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: Day, and then like by tomorrow afternoon, this I'll be
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: like the pads, let's get pads. And then it'd be
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: like the third paths practice, the joint, the joint, the
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: joint practice.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: You always kind of look into what's next, but it
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: and once that joint practice comes and goes, then you're
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: just like, just get me, just get me a week. Well,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: that's that's maybe the biggest thing I've taken away is
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: because as a back in the early days when I
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: was a fan, I would go to those practices that
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: were open to the public and watching you get the
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: atmosphere and everything.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: But what you get introduced to are the late August
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: practice that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: Aren't open to the public but are open to the media.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: And sometimes it's like watching paint dry. Paint dry there.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Now, if they're they're into it, they're slowan you know
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: how Like I think one of the shows recently, someone
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: wrote in and was saying how much quicker and faster
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Romandre Stevenson looked and I said, no, your eyes aren't
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: deceiving you. They are quicker and faster. Now right now
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: they will hit the ground and look a step faster
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: than the last time you saw them because they are
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: because they're not worn down. Once you get to what
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Mike is talking about, it's like they played a couple
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: of preseason games.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: They really just want the seasons to start.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: They're dragging, they're slowing down, and it's just a slog.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, although they able Tod talk about the walkthrough today,
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: and you know, from their perspective, the walkthroughs, those slower
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: pace allow them to incorporate more players. They can go
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: two fields offense defense, so you know, you have whatever
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: the math is, forty four guys all out there at once,
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: you know, So it's a little bit helpful for them,
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: but you know, for us trying to read between the
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: lines and understand what they're trying to install, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: without the pace.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: It's it's hard to do.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: And rab Will pointed out, you know, we all want
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: to get to the point where you're in pads. You
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: got to fight with a guy, then you got to disengage,
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: you got to chase the ball, then you got to
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: run back to the huddle and do it again, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: do it again. Really laying out my experience playing football,
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: which was it's just so chaotic. It's not like watching
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: on TV. We're like, okay, second and eight it's like chaos,
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: and then you're like, I don't even know what the
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: down at distances sometimes you're just like fright, run to
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: the huddle.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Fight And Fred knows this because he was informed about
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: it by Bruce Armstrong. But do you know how like
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that time between the plays and you're always like it
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: feels like when you're watching a game, oh it's forever. Yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: oh my god, when you're playing and this is at
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: such a low let like high school level, like we
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: wanted to just end it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: What is the situations that like you don't even.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Know I know, and they're just like certainly scrambled to
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: the huddle. You think you're going to get a delay
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: of game every play, I mean maybe not just a
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: quarterback talking. I always felt like we were on the
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: verge of getting That's what I was.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: Gonna ask you, because I was doing it as an
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: offensive lineman, which is it's different. You're a lot of
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: fighting and the wide receivers they're sprinting.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: So I wonder.
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: I always thought the quarterback, well, he must know, like
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: he's got a sense of calm, But to hear Paul
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: talk about it, it's being just as chaotic for you trying.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: To get the calls high school, like, oh yeah, what
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: did you just do? Try to get the call run
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: over the side right right right now.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: For us, it was easy because it was the same
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: play every play, Power I right, twenty two lead until
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: we really switched it up up and when power I
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: left twenty three lead, you go to the other side.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Once in a while, I would say it was on
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: two and then right, I know, I know.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: I used to like first sound. First sound was great
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: and like easy.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: First sound was like short yard and shift. It was
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: like a quarterback sneak. You know, you just get under
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: it and it go. And then they would snap the
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: ball and no one will be ready. Those were good
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: because I would get two yards without getting hits.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: That always it the quarterbacks discretion. What the snap is on?
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: Is that?
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: I mean for your experience, like I have a game
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: time I ready did. There was never the coach was never.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Every once in a while the coach would say, hey,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: you know, they're they're being aggressive. You know, they would
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: see stuff that maybe you didn't see, and they would say,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: you know, just switch it up. Call this one on too,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get a free five yards.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: And it never worked. That's what I tell you. Anytime
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: you set it up, it never works.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: So I tell Campbell in flag football because fourth down
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: in flag football, when it's like they're gonna blitz right now,
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: like just nobody moved and yell hot hut twice, I
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: guarantee you know.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: They still can't see the grass. But though I guess
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: to reflection.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Right pass five hundred, it is the hotline eight five
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: five Pats five hundred. Let's get to the phones, because
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: you know we have to save time for the guess
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: the Patriots caller later in the show looking forward that
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I'm a little disappointed. There's only I'm only disappointed there's
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: only ten. I was hoping there'd be more. More. We'll
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: have to do another round.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: We've lost a lot of regulars, so I'm not just
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: people passing away or no, we have theory.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: We haven't memorials where we show the pictures and you
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: know the class and the people that you.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Know, well, you'll never know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: That's the thing about like social media, people that you
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: and that one hit, that one hit.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Caller on the one. All right, let's get to the phones.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: We'll start off. Let's go down to Connecticut. We'll start
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: with Nate. What's up, Nate?
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: Nate back from camp?
• 35:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, how are you good?
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: Good hook up?
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it doesn't matter what what. I'm sorry, Nate,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Well go ahead.
• 36:09
  Speaker 13: Sorry, No, you're good.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: My question is about the kickers. So is the competition
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: between Andy Boorgolis and John Parker Romo sort of gonna
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: be like the Nick Folks cad Island situation where you
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: have a rookie that you drafted. It's sort of like
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: a veteran. In my opinion, I feel like Andy might
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: have the leg up based on his career in Florida,
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: and John Parker Romo has sort of been like a
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: practice blog guy, hasn't really seen the field that much.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: But yeah, thanks good.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I don't really has the lego.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah he better. I think Parker Romo.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Has said that's what you did.
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: It's he's just enough of an NFL experienced kicker to
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: provide some competition, somebody to go up against. But if
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: Borigalis doesn't win this, it's you spend a draft pick
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: on it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he needs to be the.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Guy you need to kickers in camp now. So, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I would give the job to Borrialis if it was
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: they were choosing to Alora Borealis.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Is it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: You pronounced the G? I think so?
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: No, I'm asking, yeah, I think so.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, I know I come across as and know
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: it all.
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: But I hate when you question like something I think
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: I know and then I'm like, do I know it?
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: I was asking, oh the G? The G is not silent.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: I'm like, what I never heard, but.
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: A lot of people have.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear it pronounced.
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: It be like Sam in North Carolina. I hate Sam.
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: I was just wanting to give flowers up and at
• 37:49
  Speaker 11: work ale while and been able to call me. But
• 37:53
  Speaker 11: the dynasty, the sound how to see. I love this
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: because that brought me back, like that was real nostalgia
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: for me, because that's when I started following the Patriots.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Thanks Tom, I appreciate it.
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: Just like my dad's a huge Steelers fan, so that's
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: when I started, like I started rooting for the Patriots
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: because they beat the Steelers and we're going beat them
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: for twenty years and go bat them again this year.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: Thanks thanks for listening.
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: I know we need some help on the defensive line,
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: like Rustan Capasity. Why isn't net Judon like in a
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: Patriot's uniform. I mean he was great for the Patriots.
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: I don't know if it's that bad or fallout. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: don't know if we're gonna get trade Henderson like that
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: would be nice, But I'd like to see my guy
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: come back. What do you guys think.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean, yeah, he's off, but.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: I had no interest in Judon.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: No, No, he fell off and he didn't do much
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: down in Atlanta.
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think he fell off. I understand
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: what he's saying, though, because I've talked about Edgeedeff. I
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: also just wonder if he's the right kind of fit.
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: I mean, I see him as the kind of guy
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: that wants to stand up on the edge, and I
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: think you have Jennings and too Buyer two guys that
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: kind of do that, and there's questions about how exactly
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: do they fit. I want the young guy you bring
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: in for Juice in the pass Rush to be Braden Swinson.
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: I you know, I don't want to bring in old
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: Matt Judon. I get like, you know, he had a
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: good personality.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: If Judeon was still productive, I would think differently because
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: I do think that he you know, he wants to
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: play like Harold Landry. He's going to be a stand
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: up guy in the edge and rush the passer and stuff.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: But Fred's right. The last year he was with the Patriots,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: who was banged up. I think he only played four games,
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: and then he did almost nothing in Atlanta last year.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: I think he's clearly on the back nine. I think
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: the league is telling.
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: You he's got a gravity to him too that I
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: think Fabel wants to not have guys with gravity, right,
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: he wants to be the guy with gravity.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: I don't want. Yeah, And I don't think that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: That would look pide Piper that that's your that's your
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: that would be the best word.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: Piede Piper kind of guy. But you know, I loved
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: him when he was here.
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, God, if you didn't have Jude on like
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: twenty one to twenty two, twenty three, that was what
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: twenty three was here.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: He didn't play.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: I mean I give him credit those two years twenty
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: one and twenty two. I think you know, he played.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: He played well for them. He gave them more than
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: I envisioned him giving them. I didn't think that that
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: was a great signing. And he was a good signing.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: I but I just I think the time has passed
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: hard to believe.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: You guys were like a year out from like that
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: whole debacle with him sitting in practice, and so.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: I was thinking of that today and they were talking
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: to Michael Parsons. Yeah, they were talking about Michaeh. Parsons,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, hello, what just happened last year? Same thing?
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Mayo like pleading with him.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: It seems so long ago, so much has happened.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: When Mayo was on that box.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Remember he was sitting on that box and Mayo was
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: spending all that time in front of everybody talking to him.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a weird, weird situation sitting there like
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: shaking his.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Head, hey Evan, and then his congratulation has returned.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Practice, Evan has returned.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: You were practice.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: You're not supposed to be out there because Evan has
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: returned from getting married.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: That's true.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: So what was the mood? What was the mood? And
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: what did you see particularly on your winning night?
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: As he gives it a humble yeah, tell.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: What I saw taking out Bobby Pins for about thirty.
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: Minutes Super Bowl ring style.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: He's got the ring for now, and good you have
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: a real ring on.
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: Oh we were talking about anti rubber ring.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Well, it's like, listen, if you're working construction, I get it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: You know you want to have something on there to symbolize,
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: but you don't want something that's going to get caught.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: If you never know, if you're going to be bench
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: pressing later in the day, like Eddie hard you might want.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: To rub the ring, but like otherwise, just take off
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: your ring if you have to. The rubber ring is
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: such a hard o thing, I think.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so there, Yeah, you might want to send
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: that one back to Amazon.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: I have both. I do have both, but both yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: Well the rubber ring is like twenty dollars.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: No, no, why do you need that ring in the well?
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: Because like if we're you know, like we were on
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: Martha's Vineyard for our honeymoon, and we were hiking a
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: little bit on the beach a little bit, and like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: you know, you don't want to have like the expensive one.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Want any any women that happened to be around to
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: get the wrong idea?
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Why do yeah, exactly why do.
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: You want you want me to take the ring off?
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: Lesson a week into our the ring wasn't coming off.
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: That was not the top melting. Maybe maybe in like
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: you know, a couple of years, I can get away
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: with taking the ring off.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: I think right now it's glued okay.
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: But it was good. It was everything good, Everything went great.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I feel differently now or is it the same?
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: Maybe a little bit. Honestly, I didn't think I was
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: going to because we already lived together and and everything,
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: so I didn't I didn't think that I was going
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: to necessarily, but it definitely you're locked in now. It
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: feels way more like.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: You got the prenup.
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we want Yeah, you feel way more, way
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: more locked taps for what it was.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: Barth involved at all in the prenup and any.
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah you get you get bars. No, No, we didn't
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: do wedding parties. You didn't do any now, we didn't
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: do any of that. Just too much stress, like and
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: you know, you know, drama and stuff like that. So
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: who gets picked and you know and all that crap.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: That'd be funny if like he was your best man
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: you started bickering, like.
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: You know, it was definitely would have been possible. But
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: it was good.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: So what question is technique? And you know to be like,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: you're gonna lead with the left.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: What are we doing? You got to be right hand.
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: He's a he's he's a very ball knower when it
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: comes to weddings, I'm sure is definitely not It's good
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: yea the long way, like, I have never taken two
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: consecutive weeks off from work since I started working, so
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: it felt weird. It was a long time, you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: today was what I asked.
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: I was like, was just to just get whiplashed from
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: how quickly Evan went from the wedding to like back
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: to football.
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: Definitely, once we got home from Martha's vineyard, the realization
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: that it is football season is now here in our wedding.
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: Excitement from that has started to wear off a little bit.
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: We were like, oh, here we go, and Alex is here.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, sorry to use the little girls room.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: How close are you to getting married? Alex?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Where is your boyfriend?
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: What's going on?
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's not it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: That's to wait around, lock it.
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: Down and then keep it up.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: You've talked about. I assume you're still going out with
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: the same guy that you've talked about, and yeah, actually
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: he's doing very well. So I would assume that eventually.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Right, you know, some real estate goals before that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Some of my friends have told me their biggest regret
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: in life was having their wedding because now they have
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: a one year old and like a little condo and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: they can't afford to buy a house. So maybe take
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: a page out of Evans book small civil ceremony.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, listen, I'm up for that. You don't need
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: the big wedding. Just get you whatever you want, get married,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: and then have a party time ranger.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Don't spend all whatever you want.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Spotify or twenty use it on a place to live,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: don't use it on your wedding.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: I couldn't agree, you know, especially now wedding preachy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am, and who these weddings are be seen now.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: It's like seventy thousand to one hundred thousand dollars for
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: a wedding.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: It's the wedding tax.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: I think that this show would be a more hr
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: violation than the Coldplate concert was.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: Oh boy, that was crazy. He's like, you know, so
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: what about you, Alex kids that what are.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: You doing it?
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: I feel like I'm at I'm only it's kind of
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: like that I only got married at the wedding, and
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: you know that I don't have experience with a bigger wedding,
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: but it was, like I said to Deuce, it was
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: nice because like I feel like I watched my sister
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: go through it and all they were doing was glad
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: handing guests the entire time, and like they maybe spent
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: a total of ten minutes with her husband the entire day.
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: You know, like probably when they were up at the
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: altar was the longest.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Though they okay, you can spend the rest of your life,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: but it was.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: It was the smaller wedding. It was. It was nice
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: to you know, I actually spent the majority of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: night with Jess and it actually got to like soak
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: it in together a little bit more.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just like like if you're if you come from
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: a rich family, all right, do what you want. But
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like us, you know, save that money, like us,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: you know where you're gonna live, don't from friend I
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: paid for.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying from the save all that
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: my friend's wedding was fantastic. Well, Fred was there for one.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: It was not a little it was on a boat,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: New Hampshire.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: Very cool, little, very cool.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit, not a little boat. It was
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: on a boat.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Social media like now it's up with the Jones. It's
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: like content farming.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Just to have a wedding.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, there's no need to get involved in
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: any kind of competition.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: I would agree, but you should do whatever you want,
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: whatever you feel like it does.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: It really doesn't not if you don't want to know.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: There's this real talk that people think they need at
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: their wedding because I saw it on TikTok and my.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Only competition was yelling at Fred to tell him to
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: shut the TV off during my wedding.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was watching Did.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: You Get Married?
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: During the during the service Saturday playoffs January during.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: The playoffs plays character.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: We weren't in the playoffs.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: This was in the reception. It wasn't during the wedding.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I didn't see you during the wedding. Yes, it
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: was three. It was January of three. But the Patriot
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: it was funny because we got engaged and the Patriots
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: were like four and five at the time. Yeah, in
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: one there was no sign of them becoming what they became.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: We got engaged. We sort of set a date from
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: the following year and all of a sudden, the Patriots
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: won whatever many in a row it was that they
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: won the super Bowl, So for nine in a row
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: to finish that season to win the one super Bowl
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: and then two comes around and like the whole season,
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: I'm like, what are we gonna do? You get all
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: these people invited to the wedding if we go to
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: the playoffs and they didn't go to the playoffs. That
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: might come up later.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Nobody asking about that particular season, which we'll talk about later.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: All right, let's do anything you need to say, Alex,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: since you were like coming to the show.
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: But these guys did hear from Schooler and high.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Hunter, Henry and Salas and Wyatt the little pup why
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: cute shelter dog. As we mentioned last week, we have
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: a pet adoption to then tomorrow to open camp with.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: So Schooler came out with one of the dogs that
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: will be adoptable and they let him kind of roam
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: around and Evan and I were talking about this on
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: the way here. Some of the people I didn't even
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: acknowledge the dog when it was at their feet, and
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: me and Evan were like, yep, that is everything we
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: need to know.
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: You know, I can't even give it a little pat.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: So that's what you would have said to me, if.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: You would know, you would have.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I think you would even pretended to be like, yeah, yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: wanted just to keep.
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: Up because of the judgmental you know, we would have
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: judged you.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, tells me a lot about a person I would.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: I wanted to pick it up, and I thought better
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: of it. I was like, I'm not going to I
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: don't think the dog.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the dog was a little not
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: over stimulated, but there was so much to smell and
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: so many people to agree that anyone that tried to
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: pick it up it would start crying.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: The schooler had it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: It was the.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: Really cute yeah you know me, I'm a dog.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: I'm waiting ten minutes for us to go to breaks
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: so I can find out who was mean to the dog?
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: Is the dog guy? Now? I love the dog.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: Won't leave my dad along though I don't like my
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: dad at all.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: He doesn't like it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Well, it's just bizarre.
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: I was asking alex and Em for help because he'll
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: if he's sitting next to my dad, totally fine licking
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: my dad. Let him rum the second my dad tries
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: to stand up or like hovers over him.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: He's just like, ah, it's bizarre, doesn't like you know men?
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, especially standing up like somehow sitting down he'll walk
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: right over right now, get rubs. But standing over him,
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: he is ready to tangle.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Is that right?
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: Bite your angles?
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: Your dad's got an alpha, you know, just like kind
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: of flex on him a little bit.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: What if he's afraid of you know, I know I was.
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: We'll get to the bottom of right, don't get to
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: the bottom.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's go to Christian in l A Christian?
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: What nonsense are you going to say today to infuriate? Hey?
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: What do you look like? Christian? We're about to play
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: this game.
• 50:53
  Speaker 13: Yeah, for the big game if people can figure out
• 50:56
  Speaker 13: who some of these patriots people are and figure out
• 50:59
  Speaker 13: who Christian in LA. But first, take congratulations to Evan.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: Thank you on.
• 51:03
  Speaker 13: Your on your your wedding. I've been married before.
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: It is to work, No Moss, no mos. I can't
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: imagine why.
• 51:16
  Speaker 13: It didn't work out. Because he was Miss Iceland and
• 51:18
  Speaker 13: she was traveling all the.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: Time, miss Iceland. Wow, the legend of Christian.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Literally she was Miss Iceland.
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: I also travel all the time, so I don't.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: Like Miss Rhode Island.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Is that why you were driving up in Oregon with
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: your kids last week?
• 51:34
  Speaker 13: That was a long time ago. That was twenty years ago.
• 51:38
  Speaker 13: My parents, however, had been married for almost sixty years now,
• 51:43
  Speaker 13: and you ask them all the time what is the
• 51:46
  Speaker 13: key to their marriage, and my mom and dad both
• 51:48
  Speaker 13: have a similar response. My mom said, it's really difficult
• 51:53
  Speaker 13: to argue when you're kissing or holding hands. Oh and
• 51:57
  Speaker 13: then my dad said that if something really comes up,
• 52:00
  Speaker 13: it's really one of the cut argument you have to
• 52:02
  Speaker 13: get through to have to talk after you guys school
• 52:05
  Speaker 13: around because you love each other. What's connecting about you
• 52:10
  Speaker 13: that you let some of the small stuff about that
• 52:12
  Speaker 13: really important thing go? My parents and bid the marriage,
• 52:16
  Speaker 13: I think it's I think it's figured it onto football.
• 52:19
  Speaker 13: Here's the question that I have for you guys, now
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: that we start training camping, you have some guys shooting
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: for other guys jobs and some guys trying to keep
• 52:26
  Speaker 13: their jobs. How is that dynamic in the locker room
• 52:30
  Speaker 13: with guys you know, do they like each other? Is
• 52:34
  Speaker 13: it hard for the coach to keep them from getting
• 52:36
  Speaker 13: into you know, personal or or getting their feeling hurt
• 52:39
  Speaker 13: and not liking each other as they're trying to coalest
• 52:42
  Speaker 13: as a team. That's that's kind of my my question
• 52:44
  Speaker 13: about you can't wait for the game go past.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I think it's a very individual thing.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: You know, some guys are more open than others. And uh,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Brady is the famous one. You know, comes in and
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: he doesn't give him the time of day. I'm you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: he wasn't here to help Jimmy Garoppolo. And but he's
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: an established veteran. I think he might be talking about
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: more than younger guys.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: But isn't that normal.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: You've played on teams, doesn't matter what level I played
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: on a team, and you want to play right, So
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: if I if I want to play, I might have
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: to want someone else not to play.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: So he's not better than me. I should be playing
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: over him.
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: I could still name all the kids that were like
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: playing over me at certain points, that.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: Some kid with offensive ability at the blue line that
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: was running.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: A little more mobility than too.
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: I buy like vabels quarter early in the year where
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: he talked about like every year, I look who we
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: drafted and be like, these are the guys that are
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: coming to try to take my job.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: There's no misunderstandings of how the NFL works. The best
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: guy was Larry Iso.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: Every year he would go down, he would do the math,
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: he would break down the rock. And this is a
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: guy who was like a Pro Bowl of five.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: Years in a row.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Maybe he was the parential. He was the Matthew Slater
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: of the early special teams, the early dynasty. His roster
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: spot more often than not was not in jeopardy ever,
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: but that's not how he looked at it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: He would do the math.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: And he would say this guy, this guy, Okay, I
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: can make it here. And that's how he he looked
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: at He never felt complacent, always kind of remembered and
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: he would back up linebackers, special teams, ace and this
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: is how I have to make.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: And he would be public about it. But even the
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: players that don't talk about that, they're doing that in
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: the they're doing that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: You don't think, you know, like Jalen Polk and Jabon
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Baker took note that Kyle Williams was the third round pick.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: Of course they did. It doesn't mean they don't have
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: to like each other. I mean they might like each other,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: but they're competing for jobs and maybe maybe not even
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: more than one job, who knows.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: And you know, like as growing up, as Paul said,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: you always wanted to get more time. But I remember
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: like if I felt like I was being slighted, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: it wasn't the kid, it was the coach that I
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: was mad at.
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: You're not seeing it depends, well, I would spend a
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: lot of time roasting the other kid, like.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: The coach's son, well.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: Dad, I would hold against the coach.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: But like sometimes kids just like they were like just
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: such suck ups, and you know, and they would definitely
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: like you knew that they would just like brown nosing
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: the coach and that's what it was working.
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: And I would get annoyed with the coach.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: But also I definitely resented the players that did that's
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: dummy heroes, you know, yeah, yeah, and then they would
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: have to play and then prove that they couldn't play
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: in the game.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: And then finally, what about what about kids whose dad
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: was friends with the coach? Everybody, everybody saw the time
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: on that one.
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: But you definitely feel it when the very first practice
• 55:43
  Speaker 9: in locker room after cuts, like the weight that is
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: lifted off a lot of the player's shoulders, even some
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: guys that might not be there for long still, but
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: at least they made that initial first cut. You can
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: feel that.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: First year and Pop Warner in New Jersey, one of
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: the its comes up to me and says, you probably
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: get more reps if your father was more involved. What
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: does that have to do.
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, if you.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Don't have a dad, right, Yeah, good point.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: There's definitely tension though, But you were talking about the
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: release of the tension before you and Alex came. We
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: were talking about we released the tension. Kendrick Boorn. Oh,
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: we were talking about Kendrick Bourne. He's a guy, but
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: he's a guy. If he makes it, he's probably you know,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: sweating it out a little bit. So there's a lot
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: of bodies for not a lot of spots. Who's going
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: to get hurt and you know who you know, who's healthy,
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: who's not? You know what can they save on the contract?
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: Those kinds of things that practice in that locker room
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: is always such a light, like guys are like floating
• 56:45
  Speaker 9: on air, you know, like you can just really feel
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: the tension come right out of the room after that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: Whereas and when we're in there like after a preseason
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: game or something like that, it's it can get hot.
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: You know, it can get some guys that didn't like
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: how they play and you know, maybe you're a little
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: bit different than the guys that did, and it just
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: it's really an interesting time of year. But to Christians
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: like question, I think that there's definitely some of that
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: that goes on. It's just natural. And then yeah, normally
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: when the cut down day happens and then it comes
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: together like then it's okay, these are fifty three guys
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: and this is what we're rolling with. And it's not
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: the Christian Gonzales Milton Williams is of the world. They're
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: Drake Mays. It's you know, the back end of the roster.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: No.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you.
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: Just hope as a player that the coach explains it
• 57:30
  Speaker 8: to you and you can see it. You know, you
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: understand why they're going the direction that they're going, whether
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: player out performed you or it's just their play style
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: is more than you know, you don't want to go
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: out of it being like I had no idea why
• 57:40
  Speaker 8: I was just cut I think that's when there gets
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: to be you know, hard feelings to say, wow, that
• 57:44
  Speaker 8: was a good change off.
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: That was like NASCAR when they put the gas in,
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: you know, and it's like that, how would do it?
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: Thank you?
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Patty's an agawam? What's up? Patty? Travis and West
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Virginia says your picture is the one with the fanny pack,
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: so you should easy spot. What do you have to
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: say about.
• 58:03
  Speaker 13: That showing up?
• 58:05
  Speaker 15: I don't think that Pitcher's showing up.
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: You're not part of the gaddy.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think did you send one in?
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: No, you don't play well with others. You're not part
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: of the game.
• 58:12
  Speaker 16: I did very early, But football question will be around two.
• 58:18
  Speaker 15: Considering that this gentleman wasn't very involved in the spring
• 58:22
  Speaker 15: practices because I think there were reports out there that
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: he wasn't fully healthy. Are you guys are a surprised
• 58:27
  Speaker 15: and optimistic that Jared Wilson didn't start on the puffer
• 58:31
  Speaker 15: the NFY list? And do you think he has a
• 58:34
  Speaker 15: realistic shot to beat out Bradberry? Because I do. I'm
• 58:39
  Speaker 15: just excited to see what this kid can do. And
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: considering what we went through last year with may and
• 58:45
  Speaker 15: Jacoby Brissette, you know, with Mayo, and this isn't a
• 58:47
  Speaker 15: shot at him, but saying that may outplayed him, towards
• 58:50
  Speaker 15: the last couple of last few weeks of camp, but
• 58:53
  Speaker 15: he didn't get the job. I think Brabel will get
• 58:56
  Speaker 15: Wilson the job off the outplays Bradberry.
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  Speaker 13: That's what I want to get your guys opinion. Now
• 59:00
  Speaker 13: I'll take it off there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no idea, but I would think that
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: they love it if if he beat up Brad, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think he has a chance. Yeah, it's a big X factor.
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  Speaker 9: I'd say, yeah, there's a chance. I think it depends
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: on what they do at left guard though, because if
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: you're going to be starting a bunch of young guys,
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: then like Will Campbell's obviously starting at left tackle, so
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: you already have a rookie at left tackle, and then
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: you have a rookie at center, which is a big
• 59:24
  Speaker 9: between the years position. So like it's a lot of
• 59:27
  Speaker 9: youth on the line if you get all those guys
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: in there. But I definitely think he has a chance
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: and hopefully we see more of him. Like Patty said,
• 59:35
  Speaker 9: we didn't see a ton.
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: Like what's the cadence at left guard and center?
• 59:38
  Speaker 8: It was brad Berry locked in? There are they cycling
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: through guys at left guard?
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: Is cold? Strange? Locked in? There to start.
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: You know, all of a sudden, does Wilson enter at
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: left guard because they've been they don't like what they've
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: been seeing. Those are the interesting positions how the reps
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: are divvied up. I think could get a good sense
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: even the first couple of days of just how they
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: see the depth on the line and who's really going
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: to compete.
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  Speaker 9: He was only a one year starter at Georgia too.
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  Speaker 9: which most centers when they come out have started like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: four or five seasons in college football before they hit
• 1:00:08
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• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:16
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  Speaker 10: Welcome, Welcome to training camp twenty twenty five. I know
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: Stacey kind of talked to you. We're gonna trim through
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  Speaker 10: these just guidelines and figure out, you know, so that
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  Speaker 10: we can all you know, you guys can get what
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  Speaker 10: you want from practice, and we'll try to give you
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  Speaker 10: what you can and we'll try to communicate that daily
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  Speaker 10: and so hopefully there's not a million rules, but a
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  Speaker 10: few guidelines that you could follow, and you know, we
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  Speaker 10: can all work together. I understand you guys got a
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  Speaker 10: job to do. We appreciate the job that you do
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  Speaker 10: and the job that we have. So I got everybody
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  Speaker 10: in here. We had an early group started a couple
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: of days ago, which was the rookie class quarterbacks and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 10: then some players that may have been not full or
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 10: one hundred percent in the off season. That was the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: first group, just to kind of get them in there,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: get them acclimated. The rest of the group reported this morning,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: went through physicals, had a great run test, just finished
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: that and then we'll start here with meetings here after lunch,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 10: So a couple of players that probably are on a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: few lists. There's two lists that we're working with now
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 10: as it relates to the roster. The PUP list, which
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 10: would be Hooper, Hollins, Verdarian Lowe, and to Vy. I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: would expect to buy back out there tomorrow. Those other
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: three probably will be, you know, sometime after that. The
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: NFI list, which would be Davis, Lincoln's and Web. I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: would expect Davis and Web back out there with us
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 10: tomorrow and then Lincoln's maybe a few more days. So
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: those are just some housekeeping items and just some list
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: that we used to start camp. So with that, what
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: he got Karen with the news that.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 19: Step Up Degues has been cleared the practice suitably passing physical.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 19: What does it mean to you that he's ready to
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 19: start a camp just eight months after BC surgery.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: Well, I know that everybody heals differently, and especially from
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: that type of injury, but I would say that I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: think it's just a testament to how hard he worked.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 10: You know, Mark Zepps also went through that that surgery
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: and worked extremely hard, and he's he's been out there
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 10: the last couple of days with us as well, so
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 10: appreciate their efforts to get back out there and get ready,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: and then we'll continue to monitor as we work through
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: training camp.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: Do you still have him on any sort of like
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: pitch count or anything or is.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 20: He full go?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I mean I would say I'm going to try
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: to just explain it when he practices. When he when
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 10: he took the rep, it was we'll go. Everybody every
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: day is going to have a different plan. There'll be
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 10: some players that aren't out there for individual There'll be
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 10: players that are just out there for team. There'll be
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 10: players that are just taking some specific reps, and my
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 10: job is to manage that each and every day, but
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 10: to ensure the football team that everybody's working, whether that's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 10: with with Frank or the or Jim's staff or with
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 10: the coaching staff on the field. So I don't see
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 10: any limitations right now. Is he going to take every
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 10: single rep of every single period. No, and I don't
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: think any player will. But you know, I think we're
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: off to a good start and encouraged by by what
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 10: we saw here in the last couple of days. Yeah,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: Big Big T is here ready to go. He's been
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: out on the field with us the last couple of days.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: Players were excited to see him. I was excited to
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 10: see him, and uh, you know, we'll move forward still
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: more accurately big stuff.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: Did he pass his physical?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you can't practice if you don't pass your physical.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 10: That's what these lists are for. I apologize. So you
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 10: know that's some of the housekeeping that you go through
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 10: when when you're not fully cleared to start camp. Is
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 10: that's where you introduce some of these pup and the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 10: n FI. So, uh, yeah, you can't practice without passing
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: your physical.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: Critical This buff was when they were off in their
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: own kind of don't remember correctly, Mike said, is one
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: of the most important jumps through the year.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: What's your level with satisfaction.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: With these guys?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: Well, I think just based on the conditioning test, based
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: on everybody at their weights where where we asked them
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 10: to be in the conversation, thought we met expectations in
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: that regard. But ultimately it's it's about the you know,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 10: the football conditioning, right, the the inline combat with another
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: player and then being able to go and chase the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: football and do it repeatedly, and a receiver to to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 10: run a route downfield and not get football. But still
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 10: come back to the huddle and play the next snap
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: and to be able to have that competitive stamina as
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 10: it works through practice and then you'll see us try
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: to build those reps through practice to get close to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 10: where we need to be for the game. So, you know,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 10: the inline conditioning test is one thing we'll have to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: continue to to practice the way that we want to play,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 10: which is critical, uh, to to be able to create
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 10: our identity.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: I was trouble.
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  Speaker 9: I just helped you.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 10: It is the only D line coach that I've had,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 10: you know, just a great reach to every player on
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 10: football team. And I saw him reach young offensive lineman
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 10: that we're across the ball. But you know, he worked
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 10: with extensively in different drills or pass rush drills. You know,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 10: he's got a great perspective. I think it's just helped
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 10: me personally to to kind of, you know, reach guys
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 10: that maybe I haven't been able to reach. He's been
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 10: a great mentor for young coaches as well. And I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: think our players have always responded very well and his
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 10: units have always been prepared and productive no matter who
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: uh he was coaching. Is he like both go and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 10: sell for like God? No, no, no, but no coach
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 10: should be full go, including this one. I haven't seen
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 10: any restrictions. He's not on PUP and he's not on
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 10: n FI like you a big uh.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 17: You know, first meeting set the tone, the expectations type
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 17: more do you kind of relay that message as you go?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 13: We started to know.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 10: I mean, I think every message meeting, we try to
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 10: have a message and we try to not waste their time.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 10: I found that consistency usually is the best, and sometimes
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 10: that gets redundant for some guys. But you know, the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 10: things you emphasize are usually the things that you get
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 10: the things that you make important. So try not to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 10: give them a ton of stuff, but certainly things that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 10: I think that that are going to be important, for example,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 10: training camp. I think our objectives that we're going to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 10: talk to them about and have talked to them about,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 10: is it's time to build a team. You know, we
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 10: have to start coming together as a football team, and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: the groups that we're going to use, and the special
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 10: teams unit and the different personnel grouping on offense and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 10: on defense, and that all has to come together and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: that has to happen. The other thing is they have
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 10: to earn a role and that's a great time for
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 10: them to personally earn a role through training camp is
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: what they can do for the team, how they can
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 10: help us, how they can help themselves. And there's a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: lot of different levels to what those roles are, and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 10: in my fourteen year career have had plenty of them,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: from special teams, multiple position backup to starter, you know,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 10: a starter that was expected to be productive to a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 10: veteran leader. So there's a multiple levels of what that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: role will be and that's up to them to earn it.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: And then obviously we have to prepare to win, and.
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  Speaker 4: That will be.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots and now great moments
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  Speaker 13: Are you guys done?
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  Speaker 9: It's hard.
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  Speaker 18: We haven't heard from you since the preseason.
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  Speaker 6: We're just about to talk about fullback stances.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: We didn't, yeah, three point stances versus you know, did you.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: Take a wide stance with Bill yesterday? Talk?
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  Speaker 16: You know that's my take, A little.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: Wide stance with Bill though, Yeah, I imagine.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately that's the best question you asked.
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  Speaker 1: That's an their great.
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  Speaker 4: Moment, all right, the great Andy hart Roger. How's he doing? Still?
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  Speaker 4: Like an EI?
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  Speaker 5: I guess yeah, you know they're treating him okay a
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  Speaker 5: smart as I know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, why you know? I don't know. You don't
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  Speaker 4: talk to him anymore? I do, okay, I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't generally just talk about work though.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, right, all right, rubber ring, rubber rings.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: So to make sure that we get this done and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: we don't run out of time, should we get into
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: this contest, let's do it, all right, So we're gonna
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: months ago, we asked all of you, particularly are more
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  Speaker 4: frequent callers, to send in photos of yourself because a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: lot of times you hear a voice for a long
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: time and you make a mental picture of what you
• 1:13:49
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  Speaker 4: see the persons like, man, I didn't think you look
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna character in a book movie. That's not what
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  Speaker 2: I was picturing.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So we asked for people to send in their pictures,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of you did. So we've got ten
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  Speaker 4: and do you want me to read off who they?
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  Speaker 4: How do you want how do.
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  Speaker 6: We want.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta put your mic on that.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: This is all that.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody else get you, guys, this is Alex's game.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: I'm going to pass the book to her.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I was thinking the control room guys could put their
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: numbered one through ten. That is not the order of
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: the names in the name bank. So they'll put the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: first photo on. Everyone write down and answer will say
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: who we think it is, and then we'll reveal the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: true name like that.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so here are the ten people. Uh and
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: again it's no. One not in order is Anthony and Seattle,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriot fan of the world,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: speiing Fresno, Barton, Poland, fidel and Tampa, Melvin and Tennessee
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: we haven't heard from in a while, Christian in La
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: who we hear from too much, Fort and Savannah, John
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: and Louisiana, and Eldred in the truck.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: I better get Eldred in the truck.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: So those are the ten people who we have the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: photos of. So that's who we're that's the bank or
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: the pool that we're choosing from. So I guess let's
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: do the first one and then we have to write
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: in who we think is number one and don't say
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: it yet.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: I don't say it, Yeah, I don't say it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, say so what's the first photo? Okay? Who is that? Man?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Know who? It's not right, it's not.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to finalize my picks.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we should wait till the end because if we
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: tell him right after all right, let's yeah, just take.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: A shoot, okay and play along. All right, So that's
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: the first picture. Okay, let's go number two, crossing names
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: over there, number two.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: This guy is Portland, Portland.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: It's a Portland trail blaze of Jersey.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 9: That's a hint.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: It may or may not be.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: So I know who that is?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, okay, okay, I don't feel great about that.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: It's still the next one.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: Oh p s w.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: That's a real thing. I'm gonna yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, it so bad at this Okay, that one is
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: still four?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: Shoot?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: Really, oh I can't even see this one. Whoa It's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: kind of like, oh I think I know who that is.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't believe think fireman.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if it's a real uniform.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: Rooms you need to reach out of the listeners, get
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: filter or action, going, what are you doing head shots?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: Shoot, all right, let's do the next one.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: I know that.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, that would be cheating. I know that one.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Let's do after you.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: I'd be cheating on that one too, I know that one.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay. Next mm hmm.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: That was like a nice guy.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: Uh jeez, I'm running out of options here.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: Which one is this one? This is the seventh posing
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: with beauty and the beast?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: What? What is his name?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: What's the guy.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: Who is? Which is the caller? Is it Robin Hood
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: or the guy in the Peter pan? Who is that
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: in the background? All right? Next a cameo?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 9: Somebody who you've literally met?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: This Now I'm a little screwed up.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: I got a good guess with this one.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 9: I was going to say that that Fred and I
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: have maybe met a few of these people.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: So it's okay, it gives you extra points.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: We'll disqualified.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: I met at least three, I think four.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: It doesn't mean I'm gonna get him right now?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: Me neither?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, only got two left?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: Next?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: Oh god, what is.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: That Eric Scullo?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I was Eric play an instrument?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: He said?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: He says, he.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: I'm switching to can I do that cross?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: That's why you don't lock him in, guy, Okay, hold on,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: holding on one left.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: I guess it's got to be this guy.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: Why why do I have more people than.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: It?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: He's spreading it?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: I think game last one, last one?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 9: See this is what I'm talking.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: I feel disqualified. I'm gonna change again. I'm going to
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: change again.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just gonna go what's what I am? Yeah?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, I'm going to be wrong on
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of these.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: I got to write them in. Now, do we like
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: back it up and show like what they were? And
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: then you tell us or I guess you can.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: We'll put the photo, we'll put the number one back on,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: everyone will say who they think it is, and I'll
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: do the reveal.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha, that makes sense?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, number one.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: We gotta get you a little one. I'm gonna say
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: Christian in l A.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: Christian I have?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: I have Christian in l A for that one too.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: I did not have Christian, do you have? I have
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: John and Louisiana. I totally guessed it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Is the infamous Christian in l A.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Jacket is probably?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: That means I got this one right, Selvie.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: I just look from the Tesla.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: Plaid just trying way too hard. That's that was my
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: great And the shirt matches the jacket so.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: I could see him married to miss Iceland.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Sure, I love that for him Iceland. All right, so
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: everyone got that.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: But okay, now I haven't got wrong. Uh this one
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: I went with Anthony.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: I did too, because I went Anthony and Seattle with
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: your question.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: That is John and Louisiana.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, too wrong on that one.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's Speed Speed.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I went speed with that one too, all of
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: you and Speed.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is Ford in Savannah that I've done. I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: sent in two pictures, but I chose that one because
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: that one was specifically for me, with the backwards.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: Hot like he's shooting his shot. Good, good job, Holy
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: shoot your shop.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna tell you feel less bad when audience no idea.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Next.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: Okay, this is the one.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: I knew that one.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: Wait, this is wrong.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: No, that's right, that's right, because I remember the picture.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: I wrote Ford. I wrote Ford. I did too, I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: wrote John, I.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: Said Barton Poland from Tampa forms.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry I got them all wrong.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 9: See I had fail there originally, and I crossed it.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: That one think I got Christian, Melvin, and Elder.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: I'm literally only going to get to three people that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: I just looked at it and he looked foreign. Okay,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: that's bar and Poland.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: I like, can he write in and tell us what's
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: going on? I did that like.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: European.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: The one that was selfie, like.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: He's showing up at a bachelorette party and it's like,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 8: oh yeah, is there a fire on the Did you.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: Get that one?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: So I'm going to get four right then?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: All right, all right?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: Next next one? Melvin? Yeah, Melvin, right, Melvin.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: Now I knew that one.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: I recognized.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Everyone say Melvin, Yeah, well done, that is Melvin.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: I knew that one.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: Fred and I cannot take any credit for that. We've
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: met Melvin many times.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: He's been in the studio, he's been on the Oh
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: you guys, I haven't met him, but he's been in studio.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: He was in the stands and he waved it. Yeah right,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: I went.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: We definitely Nashville.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he took us out.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: Oh sweet, it sweeky number six.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: It's got to be Aldred. That's that's big. Got to
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: be big, our beloved there is in the truck boom.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 9: So there's a Twitter account right that has that picture,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 9: but it's not Eldred.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Someone runs it as a burner and they're mean because
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Eldred would never say a.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: Lot of the stuff that he says.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: I agree with you, I know because he called in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: really like, that's not may.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: I feel like we kind of played like we're coy
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: about it, strangely, like I definitely didn't think it was him,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 8: but when we asked him.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: About it, he's like, I don't know what seven?
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 9: What I get wrong with number seven?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: I thought was I thought it was?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: I said, so, I said four to but is it.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Anthony Anthony and Seattle?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: Okay Anthony Anthony, boy, I switched them.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: I was so close to having a good round.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Number eight.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: Barton Poland, I said, Barton Poland. This guy European.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bart's gonna kill me because I don't, I said,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: John and Louis.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: Is that right?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: So everyone had it right?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: The guy who's actually in the picture, this is from
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: London at the at the yeah, I think.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: I was thinking London or Germany. But that is our friend,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Barton Poland.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 9: Okay, I remember meeting him.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: One is definitely wrong for me.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I got this.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: I thought this was James Pettigre just because a very
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: interesting picture. But but but I did, But they changed
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: it and went to the last one. So I said,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: John and All, which is johna Louisiana? Which is wrong?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: I thought I thought it was Ford, So I thought
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't know. I just took a guess. I said
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: it was Ford in Savannah.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: This is speed.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: No, I never would have gotten that.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 9: And he sounds like he has I used this.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: Does he sound like he has?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: Does at least Mike.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: I had the same thought process for you, and only
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: because I know James. Oh yeah, but I would have said,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: that's what James Pedigrew would send in.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, this guy is playing the cello.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: But James Petigrew sent in is very on brand. I know.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the dog.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: What did you all have though?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: So I got one to.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had James. We know it's not friend. Met him.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: He's another one who's been.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Interested teams looked like I was very surprised.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: He looks interesting.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he looks very interesting.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: Do you think.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: Look, he's the most interesting Patriots fan on the planet.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't really know, but I was pleasantly surprised.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what that vie, right, I don't.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: I don't often take my dog, but when I do,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: he looktriots and filtered.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Sekis didn't have a lot an American guy like he's like.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 9: He was a great time as well. He is exactly
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 9: what you expect, tons of energy, like bloke, aggressive energy.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: I got I got five. I got five too, I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: got four.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 9: I got four, right.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: But I should be disqualified. Mike was the winner because
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: I had three that I had met that I got all.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 9: I think the bar I think we do this.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: I think we do this like twice a year, one
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: sup quarter.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Nate in Connecticut, Sean and Vancouver, Patty will
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: get you in the next round.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 9: I've never missed that.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: I don't think I've met any.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: So now we have to do Nate in Connecticut and
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: some people photos.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: I just said, Nate and Connecticut, we're.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Gonna some people said in photos with their wives, well
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: not wives, plural wife and children.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Wives in place in Utah.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to put children on the YouTube.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: And like your wife not that the white sign that,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: but I just didn't want to open anyone up to any.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: It's like, remember about the Halloween you know the costume
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: pictures that we put up, and I had a home
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: thought I was in the Golden Girls. I actually reached
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: out to the other three people before I put that up.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't want them to know. You know, not everybody
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: signs up for non stop for I do all.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: Right, good stuff. That was fun? Fun, that was fun.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: Did you write this all up to?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: That's my handwriting?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: Graph paper, Thank you, graph paper and very neat.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: I know it's like artsy writing.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: I want a handwriting competition once in fourth grade.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: Really kind of competition.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: I can kind of see that based off your calendar
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 9: on your desk.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Well, this is messy for me, but I did. I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like diabolically O c D.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 9: I can also see that based off your desk very anal.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: Remember so back in my day, you know, we use pencils.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Do they still use pencils? And I prefer pencil number
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: because you're left mechanical pencil you do the writing and
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: you'd have all the lead.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, makes a great mechanical pencil that is yellow.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: Why why.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Which always breaking?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: The kids can't figure it out.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: They want to give that number two pencils.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: But then they're getting up to sharpen them every couple
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: of minutes.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 21: I know.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: Now Rhode Island, they have likes.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: You can just say there can clicking and clicking and clicking.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: It's like when Tom Hanks on Big is filling out
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: this application. Wow, what what's school stuff? That's called George
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: Washington your pledge every day every morning.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: Nobody knows that you're talking Big.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: Big was just like you don't watch Big Sunday night.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: It was just Big is a classic ABC.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I don't have anything.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: You don't have any TV at all?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people don't have the networks, Yeah,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: because they don't pay for cable or they don't you don't.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: If you have a TV, you automatically get four or five, Like.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: It's not basic cable. I don't even but you don't even.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: Need like a streaming service like any TV would actually
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: get your How do they get the channels by turning
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: on the TV.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: You need some type of reception unless you so you're.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: Telling me, you guys pay all this money to cut
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: the cord and you don't even and you don't even
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: get ABC.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 9: You don't get four or five.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: The heck, boy, I'll tell you guys really convincing me.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, when I would get grounded, I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: would get my cable box taken away, like.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Just with that out of my room. But I could
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: watch the Celtics play the cable.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 7: If you're cutting, you're cutting the cord.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 9: That's what cutting the cord is.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: You're cutting the cable cord from the wall to the TV.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: Well, don't you get chance what the cable cord is cut?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: The we can't watch TV.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Funny story.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: Somebody has to be serving you the channels.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: Funny story about my Celtic spandom. The year I became
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: all in with the Celtics was the playoffs leading to eight.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: It's because I was in trouble and the only thing
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: I could watch in my on my TV was basic
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: cable in my room.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: I would get my box taken away and I would
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: get my card.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: When I was a girl had stage, my.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Mom would take my bedroom door off benches.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 9: You were one of those.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: It was always because my sisters and I were stealing
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: each other's clothes, So.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: You had your door taken off the hinges so you
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: couldn't close it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 9: Correct we didn't.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Did you have your own bathroom, you share a bad.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: I shared it with all three of my siblings or
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: four of us, summing it just had a modest ranch.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: My friends that had two floors in their houses and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: like a staircase. I thought they were rich, you know level.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: I thought my grandparents were millionaires.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Anthony wants to comment on my take on rings. You said, Fred,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: you're neglecting to consider us constant fidgets and absent minded folks.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: I wore a gold ring for all of two weeks
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: before I dropped and lost it while fidgeting it within
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: my yard. My wife decided she wasn't dropping money on
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: another ring for me, and I've been a rubber ring
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: guy ever since. We're still married five years later. By
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: the way, it's good.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 9: Some people do the tattoo. I understand what friend's saying.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: It's not like I have a job that is like
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: labor intensive.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: But even your hobbies aren't really later, not at all?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 9: Did uh I? Did you know think about investing in
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: a Cowboy remote this offseason?
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: Cowboy?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 9: That's so you can go frame by Yeah, that's how
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: the that's how the coaches watched the film.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Just wait for the neuralink and I'll just.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Plug into your brain and here's some trivia. If you
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: can remember old pf W employee Jason Ricker. Remember his
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: his wedding ring was so heavy and back then we
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: were always entering new subscribers. We'd get the batch and
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: he'd have to enter it. He would have to take
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: off his ring because it was well, he was a righty,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: but it was like weighing him down.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I was worried about that. When I was picking
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 9: them out, I was thinking about that, and it's like,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: you know so much typing. I don't want to be
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 9: way down or haven't like watches.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: People, you don't wear your wedding ring. I lost mine
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: and I never replaced it. But if I did replace it,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: I would replace it with something substantial, because to me,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: it's a you know, it's a thing that says it's
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: a symbol. Right, So rubber ring to me is like,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: this is what you think about our marriage.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: That's a great way to look at it. I'm going
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: to adopt that.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: You know, I don't wear mine at all, because you know,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: you're saying it's on the inside, my commitments on the inside.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: I don't need to prove to anybody this.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 9: Is a really good this is a really good example
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 9: to say, guys, but what is that?
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 21: What is that?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 9: It's titanium? Because we looked, we looked at a bunch
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 9: of different ones, and I could just not stomach spending
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 9: the money on gold, Like I told Jess, like, don't,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 9: don't do it, Like gold is crazy expensive right now.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 9: And I was like, if you drop over a thousand
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 9: dollars on a gold ring, I am going to be mad, Like,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 9: don't do that, Sterling.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: But if she did, you would wear it proudly.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 9: Of course, But it just wasn't a good financial investment.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: I understand.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: But I feel like if I was a guy, I'd
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: rather her buy me a Rolex.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 9: That's what I said. I didn't say Rolex, but I said,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 9: I'd rather you buy me a nice watch.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: I we're talking ten thousand.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 9: Things, but I would, But like, I don't know if
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 9: you're spending that much on a gold ring, That's exactly
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 9: what I said.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Rolex, or like a nice at least at at least
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: like an Omega watch.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: Probably the reason.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Is you wear it every day. Like sometimes depending especially women,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: depending on what you're wearing, you don't want to wear
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: that watch because it doesn't go with.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: When you wear it.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: You know that's fair.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with that. That's what I told her.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 9: I said, I'd rather you buy me a nice watch
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 9: with the same money then, because this is to me
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 9: is just the same. It's just I have to have
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 9: something there to say I'm married. It doesn't matter.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think you're not taking this seriously.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: What else is it's supposed to be to me, it's
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: just living in a binding lifetime contract.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: She knows we're going to talk about the wedding.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 9: So she's like, I don't understand what was wrong with
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 9: saying that.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: I'm dismissive.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 9: I'm not a blanky person, so I'm not like looking
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 9: for like something crazy.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, Ja writes in for Evan, he says that
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: aggressive energy was just me flirting with you.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 9: Oh what I thought of it was no, But we
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 9: we sat at a table with James and Claire classy
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: Claire for a while. So when I saw James's picture,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 9: I was like, that's definitely James. I knew right away.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 9: But it was fun. It was aggressive energy.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: Now people are sending pictures, now you send them for them.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 8: I hope that was a good even for the listeners,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 8: they could probably guess you gotta be watching on video
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 8: to see the pictures.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: Well, they probably feel like we do in the sense
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: of I don't want to look at these pictures now,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: don't look.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Just blindly forward them to do or we'll just wait
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: six months.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 9: You'll forget.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: Anyways, it's like, that's actually your wife, fred.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: I forgot.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: Let's see a lot of emails coming in, a lot
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: of calls.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: That one Boston fan, that's what he calls himself for herself,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: was thinking about Rabel last Rabel season where he played
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: seventy plus players and got into the playoffs. You think
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: that with that chip on his shoulder, that might be
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: the reason we are not going hard after players like
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: McLaurin and Hendrickson, since he thinks he can win with
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: any players.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: I don't think that I do about that.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think buying that anybody here would sign
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: up for Henderson or McLaurin today.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: We don't know that they're not trying.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's those guys are under contract, sem like
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 8: they're you know, it's not like you can make them an.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: Offer, especially McLaurin. You know Henderson, there's certainly enough animosity
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: there that I think he could be had someone wants
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: to get aggressive.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: From Flora.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, McLaurin, LA's going to mess with Daniel's right. I
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: had a whole thing yesterday where Adam Peters and McLaurin
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: specifically said, you know, my goal is to get it
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: worked out here. He's telling you he wants to stay here.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: Whereas what is right now.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: Live instagrams geotech from Florida.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: I make Henderson may be available.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: It's an open road.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 21: Speaking of symbolism, I think the I think he's a
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 21: good fit for what they need and what they want
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 21: to do, and to bring him into that rotation seamless fit,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 21: I think it'd be a great grab.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I just feel like a lot of these told
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 9: in told outs, whatever you want to call them, I'm
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 9: kind of not buying them anymore. It's so seldom that
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 9: these guys actually get traded. Even if you formerly request
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 9: a trade, it often doesn't even end up in a trade.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 9: It's just a negotiating tactic, bargaining chip. So you know,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 9: Hendrickson maybe is a little bit more real, But I
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 9: still think both those guys end up playing for Washington
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 9: and Cincinnati at.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: The end of how does that work though, Like, I mean,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 8: the teams have I know the Patriots have cap space,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 8: but you know, in terms of budget and cash spending
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: within the season, you get to July, are team still
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 8: budgeted to take on a contract like that, to take
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: on a Trey Hendrickson and all right, and we're gonna
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 8: have to give them a huge deal now too, or
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 8: you know, do the owners think like your money was
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: spent back, you know, by the draft.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: Like team to team. Yeah, And like Paul will say,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: if they really want the guy, they'll figure it out,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: you know, if they if that means they have to
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: cut a few other people or restructure some other contracts,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: if they really want them, they can do it. Yeah,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: They'll have to figure it out.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 9: I think that that's a a big reason why the
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 9: compensation in terms of the trade isn't always as high
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 9: as we might think is because you have to pay
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 9: the guy. And that as an NFL team, even though
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 9: as the outside looking in we might say, oh, I'd
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 9: give up a first round pick for Terry mccaorran in
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 9: the second Well, you're giving up a first round pick
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 9: and you're paying him thirty million dollars a year, so
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: it usually it's one or the other. If they're under contract,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 9: then the team gets the draft compensation. If they're not
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: under contract, and the trade values a little bit less.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 9: So like Henderson, for example, i'd be interested to see
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 9: what he actually got in a trade. I think McLaurin
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 9: would still get a lot. A prime wide receiver, I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 9: think would still get a lot. But Henderson's a good player.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 9: But I don't know if he's getting, you know, more
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 9: than like a Day two pick.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what did we say he was thirty one?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah he's thirty one.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, him and TJ watter a similar age. But yeah,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: I mean I could see both sides of that. But
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: it's going to cost you the contract, so that keeps
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: the probably keeps the compensation down a little bit.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: I keep saying I would give a first round pick
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: for McLaurin.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: Probably wouldn't have to, probably wouldn't cost you that, but
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: I definitely would be interested.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: In Katina and Houston writes in she says, Alex's hair
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: looks so shiny. I'm obsessed with it. What is she doing?
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: I also like her blouse. She looks great. I love
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: it when she graces the show with her presence. So, Gap,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: what shampoo conditioner are you using?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: I don't use hair products.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, I use there we go, There, we go on.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: I grew out all the blonde, so natural color going.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: That's why it's not fried and it's shiny. Spending a
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: lot of time in the ocean during the week.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: So you don't use hair products.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like wash your hair, yes, But what I use
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: shampoo conditioners product. I'm talking product in terms of like
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: heat protector. No, no, no, I just.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: Next level product.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: We're man.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: We only shampoo conditioners.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: Angler. Yes, there's the left hand side and the right
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: hand side. The left hand side is you know, seven
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: dollars to fifteen dollars. The right hand side you can
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: spend one hundred dollars.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: On a bottle of conditions, which want like the very
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: generic side. Okay, I try to get one that doesn't
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: have like PIFAs and the crop in it.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes you use Monday conditioner Monday shampoo, Yeah,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: of course, but I'm not strict with it.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 9: Okay, you know it's just all natural.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: What do you use evan because you have a thick head.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: Had I don't know what it's called to be honest
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 9: with you. But someone recommended it to me because I
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: guess I was. I was like doing the opposite of it,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 9: like my hair.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: Hair.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 9: I was like drying out my hair, but not on purpose.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 9: And I had like a barber once so being like,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 9: we need to get you some better shampoo because you're
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 9: you're drying out your your scalp here. And I was like, oh,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 9: I didn't even know I was doing that.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: So do you blow dry it?
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 7: With?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: Speaking of uh, you know, hygiene and products, anybody using
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: the soap?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got, I.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 9: Did, I gotta kid.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I did get a review of all the bars.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: It was fine.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 6: It's just I don't generally use bars soap, as you
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 6: guys know. And you got the soap. You can't say
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: you didn't get the soap.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: You're doing unboxing.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 6: Don't drop it. I also used the moisturizer a little bit.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: It's good.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: It's good stuff, and I uh one of the bars
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: of soap was a blueberry bar.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: But I believe Casey you ate it.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: In content, you know, in our office, you know, she
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: stole that one from me.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 6: She liked the smell.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, no, fore No. My wife was tickled
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: that came from Brute, Alabama, so.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: She liked that.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: So I did try it. It's it's good. I got
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: to bring it home.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: But like you know, I was telling Beth about the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: you know, the membrane and between Yah, so you don't
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: want too many membranes, right, Yeah, so that wasn't She
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: liked that. Yeah, she thinks you're insane, but she knows you.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: So she knows that Grant and Stockport UK all the time.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: You guys refer to Paul shows. After listening to Patriots
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: unfilter for the last six years, I think I know
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: which shows you're referring to nine eight point five. But
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: are they actually Paul shows? Does he own them? Is
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: he the boss over there?
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 9: Which one are his?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: Please?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 9: Just swumming here, just Beasley Media.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: He drives that car for modesty.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: Paul shows are any show that will have him on
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: or might have him on in the future. Those are
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: Paul shows.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: I had to turn one down because we got camp
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: shows popular yesterday I was it was on yesterday.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: So Paul's been on a lot of shows, so they're
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: all his shows.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 9: Him and Barth big time of year for those fillains
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 9: right now. You know, everybody's on vacation and stuff like that.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: It's like, do we know anyone that knows Patriots? Yeah,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: bringing Barth exactly.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 6: Time to shine.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Let's go to uh the hotline. Sean's in Vancouver.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: What's up, Sean.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 16: Mazletovvan?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 9: That's great.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 16: I have a question for you. I know you had
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 16: a civil ceremony, but did just buy an elegant dress
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 16: and you rented the tucks or did you just go
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 16: fairly uh dressed casual?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 20: Or how did how did you what were you wearing?
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 9: What was what was I wearing? I wore a suit,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 9: new suit, bought a new suit for the occasion, which
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 9: I thought was warranted, and just did wear a wedding dress?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah? So not like.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 9: No, like a dress like a dress like there's no
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 9: what's a train? Yeah I know I don't know that,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 9: but we're not taught. We didn't.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 11: We didn't.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 9: It was very pretty. We did not like a ton
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 9: of money on it. It's not like she went to
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: one of those bridal places and spent like five grand
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 9: on a wedding dress.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 16: Is we're not even five Okay? Well, yeah, here's my
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 16: pet Peeves like I don't understand most traditional weddings where
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 16: women will drop so much money on a dress that
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 16: they hopefully only wear once, and men rent a tuck
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 16: where there's so many black tie occasions to wear a tuck.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 16: It's to me, should we opposite? Like I think men
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 16: should buy a tuck, some women should rent to dress.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 9: That's a good. I wore a suit that I purchased,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 9: and I did that on purpose because I think I'll
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 9: be wearing it probably multiple times.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: So yeah, exactly, So Sean, are you married by any chance?
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 11: No?
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 13: No, I have never even fallen in love.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm sad to hear that response. But like
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: the fact that you think that your wife should rent
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: a dress, would tell me probably not.
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  Speaker 6: Keep that one in the back. I would keep I
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: would keep that one in the whole start run something.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: But he has a dress, so there's whole websites.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: Can people do it?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: And also a big trend now is like you wear
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: the dress your mom or grandmother got married, or.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: You take your dress and then you have it into
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: like a christening gown for your first born daughter.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 9: Her bouquet is getting made into something into it. I
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 9: think a painting of some sort like.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: The high view of a football game maybe where you
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 6: can see all the players.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: So they press the flowers.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you put it in a.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: C It's like a near from from you, like the
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: one you have from your white tux.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: Speaking of tuxes, I think we've talked about this other show.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: Thanks Sean, appreciate the call. I'm vehemently against proms where
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: kids have to rent tuxes. I just think that's so
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: the stupidest thing.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Expensive are their dress codes for them. You can't just
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: wear soup no proms.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: You don't have to wear a to but people do,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: and they feel pressured to do that.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: You know, well, what's the well, I' that's the same
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 5: for everything. It's kind of pressure to.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think why are we adding pressure on mostly
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: their parents for having to rent them. It tucks to
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: go to a stick.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: Proms are expensive, and I get that, but I would
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: be much more pushing back against the whole promposal thing
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: that you have to do something special on social media
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: and it has to be some elaborate like whatever.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 6: Just had you want to go to the problem with me?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: I could see if Sophia Vogara to go with you
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: but if you're I wonder why you brought that name up,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: well because she was in the news with one Thomas Edward.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 9: Brady's Patrick Thomas Edward Patrick.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think kids should be pressured into
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: renting tuxes to go to a dance. And then you're
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: you're with, like, what's the percentage of high school romances
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: that end up lasting? It's probably like ten percent experience if.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: That if probably gets lower every day.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would even wonder what is the percentage of
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: high school prom dates that are actual couples, right, I'll
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: bet you that's you know, smaller and smaller.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 6: I went with a girl friend a girlfriend.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 9: A friend that's a girlfriend that's a girl. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: I had high school. But I recommend the suit route
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 9: for the wedding because now I have the suit, and
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 9: we have a lot of occasions to wear a suit too,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 9: Like we if we try to Josh all, we have
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 9: friends that are getting married because we're that age, so
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 9: like we're always getting invited to weddings. So it's like now,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: I said to the guy when I bought it, I
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 9: was like, this is not a one time you know.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: As long as you can keep your figure. Well, then
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: you'll have it for a long time.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's not so hard for me.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: You can't work out worried, you can't need anything that.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 11: Too.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: Ryan's in Canada. Hey Ryan, Hi, how are you doing Okay?
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 20: So I've I've been watching the show for like four
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 20: years now, so probably since like Mac was drafted. No,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 20: hopefully we hear some better news about the offensive here.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 20: So my question is, you know, we have a really
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 20: elite corner group. We got Gonzales and Davis, but I
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 20: look at the nickelback and I don't really.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 13: Know what's going on there.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 20: Like we got Marcus Jones, but I find him more
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 20: as a special teams player on pun return. And I
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 20: see Alex Austin and you know, he's had his moments
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 20: when he gets on the field, but it hasn't been
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 20: much that he's been on the field.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 13: So do you think we keep.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 20: Alex Austin as a nickel or do you think we
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 20: maybe bring in another body before camp and see how
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 20: things go.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a good subtle Questionniky spot.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they're bigger questions with the team right now,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 9: but it's certainly something to watch and They've talked a
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 9: lot about using a big nickel. A guy that's got
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 9: a little bit more size maybe plays a little bit
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 9: more safety as well. So you know, how are they
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 9: gonna mix and match up. I think Marcus Jones gonna
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: play though. I think he's gonna be when they want
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 9: to go man to man and play you know, three
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 9: true corners, then I think Marcus Jones is gonna be
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 9: in the slot more times than not. I would agree,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 9: but maybe it will be another body that's a little
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 9: bit bigger that in certain packages when they want to
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 9: go to three safeties or they want to go to
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 9: more size in the slot. It's an Alex Austen, It's
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: a Craig Woodson, it's you know, someone like that. But
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 9: I still think Marcus Jones is the guy.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 8: Or Austin frees up Gonzalez to move around a little
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 8: bit too. You know, maybe that's an option. But I
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 8: agree with everything even said it's an interesting spot Isaiah Bolden.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: We saw him get some reps there. You know, I
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 8: never really played there, but there's some options. Good friends, Okay,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: I'm not.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 16: Sorry.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 20: My only uh like thing about Marcus Jones is a
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 20: size like there's just a couple of times.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 13: I mean, he wasn't like his Jonathan Jones injuries and stuff.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 20: Last year, Marcus had to play outside a bunch and
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 20: you know, like you had Jarrett Wilson who was kind.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 13: Of like at the height of vantage on.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 20: So that's just like the one thing I'm kind of
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 20: worried about with him.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 9: But right well, he's not. If he plays on the
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 9: inside though, then you're not thinking about like jump balls
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 9: down then, especially if you're a matchup specific to where
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: if he's facing off against one of those like shifty
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: slot receivers, like you're not worried so much about him
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 9: getting high pointed down the field. Like that's why you
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 9: have Carlon Davis here now, is to have another guy
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 9: that you can put on a six foot three receiver
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 9: so you're not putting a Jonathan Jones or a Marcus Jones.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: So I think that would be what will be fun
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 9: about this group is that they can really match up
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 9: like body type wise too, not just skill level wise.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 9: So I think they'll be all right.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: The secondary is an area of strength overall. I do
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 5: have some some questions, but they would be more about depth.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 5: Like with Marcus Jones, I agree with everything Evan just said.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: In the slot, I think he's serviceable. I worry about
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: his durability. He hasn't really made it through seasons and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: then to the free safety spot.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: You know how that's going to.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: You know, do they continue to want to play Dugger
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: and Peppers together? If so, which one of those guys
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: is more, you know, in the box than the other?
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: Is it Woodson? Is it you know Marcus EPs, the
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: guy we talked about Vrabel talked about him coming back
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: from the torn A c L as well. Jalen Hawkins
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: had some some reps there. Do they want to go
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: that way or do they want to try to see
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: if one of these extra corners is more of a
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 5: cover option in the back end, like Austin or Bolden,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: one of these guys that has a little bit more
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: I think range. But the starters, you know, with Gonzales,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: Davis and Marcus Jones, I think you could do worse
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: than that that trio around the league. I think plenty
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: of teams probably don't have as good a group as
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 5: those three.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: Would you say that the majority of cornerbacks in this
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: league are under six foot.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: Around there?
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 9: Six one? I think that's like if you look at
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 9: you know, Sir Tan Gonzo Stingley, they're all like six one.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: When you get six one, six two and those are.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't say the majority are under six foot
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: though that's small.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think six is probably about that five
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 8: eleven six, Yeah, Marcus Jones is like five eight.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's small. But I'm saying under six foot isn't
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: always a detriment as a cornerback.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 9: No, because I think, you know, it's it's so matchup
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 9: specific nowadays, so like they're not you know, they have
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 9: the size now on the outside. And like I look
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 9: at a guy like Alex. If there's a week where
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: the Patriots are facing the receiver on the opposing team,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: they're best receiver is a slot receiver, Well, you can
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 9: move Christian Gonzales inside to have him cover the slot
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: receiver and then put Alex Austin as another boundary corner
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 9: on the outside. Like that's where I feel like Alex d.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 9: Austen's value is going to be, is that on weeks
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 9: where Gonzo's traveling inside a little bit more against a
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 9: certain matchup, they have that ability to have a third
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: true outside corner so that there isn't Marcus Jones that's
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 9: playing on the outside.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: Mike and Main writes in he says, don't go crazy
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: when the offense struggles. Just wondering if we should put
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: a disclaimer out there for the fans. And Paul shows
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: that the defense could potentially be a top five at
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: least the top ten type defense, and the offense is
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: new with a handful of new players, hiccups should be expected.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: Just dreading all the offense struggles again headlines in my feet.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I get what he's saying, but at
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 8: the same time, to see Drake make some strides. I
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 8: want to see Stefan Diggs be an elite player, and
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 8: those are things that that should pop.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to pretend that it's not
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: going to be a big deal if the offense looks
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: terrible again in camp.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 8: I mean, Morgan Moses isn't expected those guys either.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: I think it should be better. You have better coaching,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: You have a quarterback in year two who should be
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: better than he was. You have Stefan Diggs who is
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: vastly superior to anything you've had in the last couple
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: of years. You should be better well, And I don't
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: need you to light it up every day a practice,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: but I don't care what the defense especially needs.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: To complete passage advantage. We have now, especially me and
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: Paul Is, we've seen what a really good offense looks
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: like in camp, and we've also now seen what a
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: real bad offense looks like in camp. So we've got
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: those two, you know, polar opposites to gauge what we're looking.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: And you also know when you watch plays and you
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 5: can say that wasn't a that offense wasn't bad. The
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: defense just made a really good play. You could tell
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: when Gonzo mirrors the guy down the sideline and bunts up,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: jumps up with one hand and picks off a pass
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: like he did late in the last mini camp day
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 5: that we got to watch. You know, you know the
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 5: difference between good defense and bad offense.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 6: You can tell.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 9: I just don't expect the offense to be that bad,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 9: like to what the emailer was saying, you know, and.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: I think if it does look that bad, it is
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: cause for concern.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 9: Sure, But McDaniels with Drake May it was Stefon Diggs
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 9: now here. I mean, I'm super excited to see Stefon
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 9: Diggs just practice, because we haven't seen that around here.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 9: We haven't seen the receiver of that caliber practice and
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 9: training camp for the Patriots have seen it. Other teams
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 9: come in with receivers like that, and every time we
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 9: do it's you know, Devonte Adams in Vegas or AJ
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 9: Brown last year out there, you know against the Eagles
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 9: and the joint practices, it's just said, your your jaw
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 9: is just like on the floor, like, holy crap, that's
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 9: what it looks like.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 8: I just say, I get the point, though. I think
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 8: the are tired of having a dysfunctional offense. And really
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: it's been three seasons of that, and you know, I
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 8: look back to twenty twenty two when that was I
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 8: think my third season of camp. But in hindsight, that
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 8: is so dysfunctional and it took some strides. The next
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 8: year with Bill O'Brien coming in, it looked a little better.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 8: But I just I think fans are sick of it.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: They just want a functional offense that they can feel
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 8: excited about, that can put points on the board.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: It's been and you see it like the Patriots had
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 5: some unbelievably good defenses like two thousand and four, Yeah,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: two thousand and four, defense didn't dominate every practice, Like
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 5: you can have a good defense and still complete passes
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 5: in practice or still you know, run a functional offense.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: They have not had a functional offense in practice in
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: camp for the last three years.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, at least at least I mean no, I mean
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty was Cam Newton. I mean it wasn't really
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 8: camp because of COVID. But I mean, you know, the
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 8: point stands, it.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: Never looked right no matter what they did, it just
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: didn't look like.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: I do expect them to be better on deep than
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: they were last year. I don't, you know, not to
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: the point where you can't complete passes in practice if
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: you have a good offense.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: Craig in Vegas wants to know if Terrell Williams is
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: back defensive coordinator.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 6: He is he very the lead. You didn't I thought
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 6: you did mention that in your bookkeeping at the time.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 19: I did.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 6: I don't think I did. That was our bady, Terrell.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: Big T.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 8: This might cause him big T a lot of lot.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, he said he's the only defensive line coach
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 8: he's ever had. Were able to talked a little bit
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 8: about how he can talk to anybody on the roster.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 8: It's not just about his defensive lineman when he was
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 8: defensive line coach, but also helping offensive lineman.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 6: So I think it's a nice boost right at the camp.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 8: I mean, you hoped he would be here, a little
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 8: bit of a thing he had to work around in
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 8: the spring, but now that he's here, I think they'll
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 8: be okay.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 9: Great reputation from a defensive line especially. I mean some
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 9: of the Dan Campbell, like some of the coaches he's
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 9: worked under, have just gushed about how good of a
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 9: defensive line coach he is.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 4: Teacher. Yeah, ye, all right. So tomorrow reminder, we will
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: be live nine to fifteen from training camp, first day
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: of public practice, so Patriots dot com, our social we
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: will be live at nine point fifteen. We'll go to
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: Rabel around nine thirty when he does his press conference,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: we'll tap dance until the players start arriving, and we'll
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: show you as much of practice as we're allowed to show.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 4: So exciting day tomorrow. Make sure you're with us, and
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: then after practice, Douce and maybe somebody else we'll do
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 4: a s I feel like, Devin, I.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: Don't know if you know, but you and I are
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: going to be invited on Mike's podcast after practices every day.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 9: Ayah, well it's up to Emmy's he said.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 6: He said he would allow it. Okay, we'll see how
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 6: how you are during the practice. If I get a little,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 6: if I get mouthy, I will not be invited. No
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: practice review for you. Okay, all right, so I'm out.
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