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Time For Him to Come Home for Christmas · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Megan, I'm Wendy.
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  Speaker 1: Do I have my smooth talk radio voice?
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  Speaker 2: You definitely do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to come in calm. We have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of episodes to record today, trying to keep the voice
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  Speaker 1: palatable to the listeners. Today we will be discussing time
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  Speaker 1: for him to come home for Christmas Tyler Hine's second
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  Speaker 1: movie of the season, before we get into that. You
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  Speaker 2: With us too.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome and you can also email us Megan and Wendy
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  Speaker 3: I want to know what you think about these reviews.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think about these movies? Because you know,
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  Speaker 3: everyone is a critic, right, they just don't have a
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  Speaker 2: Cool.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about some ratings news about
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  Speaker 1: these recent movies?
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 3: First, Haul Out the Holly had three point two eight
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  Speaker 3: seven million live viewers when that movie premiered. What day
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  Speaker 3: was that Friday?
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  Speaker 2: Saturday? I can't even remember. There's been so many movies.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so it had like great viewing numbers. It didn't
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  Speaker 3: quite reach the Three Wise Men level of viewers, but
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  Speaker 3: it was right there.
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  Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, although it didn't beat their viewership numbers,
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  Speaker 1: it did beat their share of the demographic. They had
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  Speaker 1: thirty nine percent of the eighteen to forty nine demo.
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  Speaker 1: Where's Three Wise Men only had thirty one percent.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking fractions of numbers here, Sure, I wonder what
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  Speaker 3: that actually equates too.
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  Speaker 1: It was a success, no matter how you slice.
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  Speaker 3: It, Yes it was. I also read this morning two
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  Speaker 3: things Lifetimes movies are doing real bad. Apparently I haven't
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  Speaker 3: watched any of them, to be quite honest, watched Mary Swift,
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  Speaker 3: Miss I did, and it wasn't that great.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I have the Kelsey Grammar and Spencer Grammar movie record it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a It's a Christmas Carol.
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  Speaker 3: Another one, yeah, another one.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't watched yet, but it is. It is sitting
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  Speaker 1: there waiting for me. They are not doing well.
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  Speaker 2: They're not doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you tell me, great American family not doing well?
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  Speaker 1: And I think they had. They were really riding on
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  Speaker 1: Candice Cameron Very's release Thanksgiving weekend. She promoted it all
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  Speaker 1: over her social media. She by the way, has five
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  Speaker 1: point six million followers. It had four hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: two thousand viewers, which is less than ten percent of
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  Speaker 1: her five point six million followers. Didn't break the million mark.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the number they're hoping for. I really don't
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  Speaker 1: know how long this channel is going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to sustain itself financially.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but then what you know what I mean it
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  Speaker 3: no where do those acts go? Are they gonna come
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  Speaker 3: back to Hallmark? Will Hallmark welcome them back?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna happen?
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  Speaker 1: Some of those who have just left quietly and aren't
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  Speaker 1: out here talking about how Hallmark is too progressive? May
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  Speaker 1: come back? Are they gonna let Candace Cameron beret back
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  Speaker 1: after she made a big statement that she didn't think
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark was headed in the right direction. I certainly hope not.
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  Speaker 1: I hope not either.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine, but I can also imagine, like Candace
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  Speaker 3: Cameron Beurret starting her own channel network. Yeah, production company,
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  Speaker 3: she does have her own production company. It's called Candy Rock,
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  Speaker 3: But can you see her like there's got to be
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  Speaker 3: like a network out there that would let her put
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  Speaker 3: her stuff out all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I don't really care, m Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like I care from the perspective of a
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark movie reviewer, But I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not like, oh poor Candace.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and I know you're not saying that either, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think you reap what you sew.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see shall all play out, and I will
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  Speaker 3: sit here and watch it with my bucket of popcorn,
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  Speaker 3: but not watch their movies. But not watch their movies, No,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read about it on the drama channels
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  Speaker 3: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah online, same, let's talk. Time for him to come
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  Speaker 1: Home for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you already that with the title of
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  Speaker 3: this movie, I'm gonna have a real hard time writing
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  Speaker 3: show notes about it. The title is going to be
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  Speaker 3: too long for our post title. You are right, all right,
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  Speaker 3: news and notes? What do you got?
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  Speaker 2: Let's do a synopsis first?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes, okay, I forget every Time premier on Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: November twenty six. Time for Him to Come Home for
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  Speaker 3: Christmas is about the following. Four days before Christmas, Elizabeth
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  Speaker 3: receives a voicemail from a number she doesn't recognize. On
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  Speaker 3: the message, a man she doesn't know makes one final
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  Speaker 3: plea to the love of his life starring Holland Roden
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Hines to Neil Towns from executive producer Blake Shelton.
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  Speaker 2: Bah, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of Blake Shelton. I never have been,
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  Speaker 3: and like, I use backstory. I love Gwen Stefani and
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  Speaker 3: the band No Doubt, and when she and him got together, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, no, I just he creeps me out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a big fan either. That's not a selling point
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  Speaker 1: for me.
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  Speaker 2: I did read some reviews.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, I saw this was produced by Blake
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  Speaker 1: and that made me watch it. And you know, good
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  Speaker 1: for Hallmark that that works for them. That's not the
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  Speaker 1: selling point for me. We all know what the selling
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  Speaker 1: point for me in this movie was. It was Tyler Hines.
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  Speaker 1: This was filmed in mid July and early August in Vancouver, Canada.
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  Speaker 3: Check right, at least.
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  Speaker 1: That one could be on the Bengo card. Oh, that's
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  Speaker 1: a good idea. That is a really good idea.
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  Speaker 3: This is the fifth movie in staf for the Time
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  Speaker 3: for franchise. The first one was released in twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 3: based on the book called Time for Me to Come Home,
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  Speaker 3: written by Dorothy Shackelford, who is the mom of Blake Shelton.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm unclear if Shelton's production company produced all five
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  Speaker 3: of these movies. I tried to look. I did a
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  Speaker 3: deep dive. I was only coming up with old articles.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if he's done every single one
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  Speaker 3: of them or this just this one, or what did
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  Speaker 3: you find anything?
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  Speaker 1: He himself is a producer on all five movies. I
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  Speaker 1: understand that that doesn't actually answer your question, but he
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  Speaker 1: was attached to all five movies.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Steve, do you think it's basic that is so
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  Speaker 3: funny that you mentioned that. I think it is basic.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He plays Carter in this movie. He has one hundred
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  Speaker 1: fifty six acting credits, including the Hallmark movie Love Classified.
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  Speaker 3: Dude's brazy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I don't remember him in Love Classified.
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  Speaker 3: I love that movie from this year. I thought he
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  Speaker 3: looked a lot like Denise Richards's husband.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I will I want you to google it
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  Speaker 1: right now, but I will put a picture in our
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  Speaker 1: show notes.
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  Speaker 2: You know you're not wrong. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Denise Richard's husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content.
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  Speaker 1: He knows what guy's like. That's the first article that
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  Speaker 1: came up. By the way, gross gross, gross gross. And
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  Speaker 1: this was written by Marcy Holland, who wrote four of
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  Speaker 1: the Time to Come Home.
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  Speaker 3: Movies directed by David Winning, who has directed a ton
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  Speaker 3: of Hallmark movies, including last year's The Nine Kittens of Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Kimberly Sasdad, I'm still gonna come and watch it now
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  Speaker 3: that I like you so much, you me and the
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Tree, which was a Julie Sherman wolf movie, and
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  Speaker 3: The Twenty seven Hour Day, which I remember really liking.
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  Speaker 3: And indeed he also directed the twenty eighteen movie and
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty movie Like Under This franchise, so he's
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  Speaker 3: done three.
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  Speaker 2: Of the five.
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  Speaker 1: Allan Rodin, who co stars alongside Tyler Hines. This appears
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  Speaker 1: to be her first Hallmark movie. I think she fits
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  Speaker 1: right in. Among her acting credits, she starred in one
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  Speaker 1: hundred episodes of Teen Wolf, and the most remarkable thing
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  Speaker 1: about that to me is that there were one hundred
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  Speaker 1: episodes of the series Teen Wolf.
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  Speaker 3: I know. But I also saw on her IMDb that
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  Speaker 3: there was a teen Wolf movie that was like in
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  Speaker 3: pre production right now.
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  Speaker 2: Butho, that's a tim TV series.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, oh was it? I felt like, you guys
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  Speaker 3: watched that.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no. We watched
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  Speaker 1: the original with Michael J.
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  Speaker 2: Fox. How's that hold up?
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  Speaker 3: It's silly, you know, he's a teen Wolf. I love
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  Speaker 3: Michael J.
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  Speaker 2: Fox.
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  Speaker 1: Me.
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  Speaker 3: One final note Tyler Hines. Obviously, this was his fourteenth
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  Speaker 3: movie with the Hallmark Channel, I think, and let me
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  Speaker 3: tell you why, because the last article I found was
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  Speaker 3: from earlier this year. And Always am More, which a
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  Speaker 3: debut in spring twenty twenty two, was his twelfth movie,
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  Speaker 3: and so math tells me this is his fourteenth. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's went to movies for Christmas, So we're at number fourteen. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so first impressions.
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  Speaker 1: My first impression is literally gasped when I realized the
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  Speaker 1: surprise twist. Really wait, don't wait, don't shut on each
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  Speaker 1: other's first impressions unwritten rule. Well, okay, I guess so
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  Speaker 1: that he was the driver of the car that killed
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  Speaker 1: their best friend.
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't, but I didn't gasp out loud. We'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: There was some.
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  Speaker 3: Plot holes, and it was a little bit confusing at times. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: A lot of that comes up in my wish for categories.
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  Speaker 3: So my first impression is I'm starting a petition that
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Hines has a candy cane as a prop in every.
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  Speaker 2: Single movie from here on out.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think I guessed out loud when she turned
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  Speaker 3: around and he was standing there with that candy cane
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  Speaker 3: hanging out of his head.
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  Speaker 1: I will be the first signature on that petition.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. What do we like about this movie?
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  Speaker 3: Can I just say that I when I watched it,
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  Speaker 3: and when I finished watching it, I thought I really
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  Speaker 3: liked it. But then when I started doing all my notes,
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  Speaker 3: I was like my rating kept going further and further down. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: let me say what I liked. I I really liked
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  Speaker 3: that this was a mystery. Yes, it was on the
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  Speaker 3: Hallmark Movies and Mystery Channel. I mean there was a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of love story, because you said every Christmas
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  Speaker 3: movie has a love story in it. But I liked
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  Speaker 3: that I was invested in finding out, like who this
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  Speaker 3: guy was and what happened with their friend and like
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. So I liked that aspect of it.
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  Speaker 3: I also really liked Holland Rodin too.
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  Speaker 2: Is she the prettiest person you've ever seen?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? My god, so pretty great hair? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I liked her a lot.
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  Speaker 3: And I would say yes more, yes, please put her
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  Speaker 3: in more Hallmark movies.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what you liked.
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  Speaker 1: Well, unlike another movie that we talked about this week
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  Speaker 1: that shall remain nameless for this episode, I think this
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  Speaker 1: movie pulls off the romance well. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: important to the storyline. It improved the storyline, it advanced
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  Speaker 1: the storyline. I liked the romance. I believed them as
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  Speaker 1: great friends who cared for each other. I believed in
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  Speaker 1: them as a romantic connection, that they had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of chemistry on screen anything else. I loved the ongoing Mystery,
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  Speaker 1: I loved Okay, Comber Holland Rodin. And that's the end
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  Speaker 1: of my list, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there were some good things to like about it, right,
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  Speaker 3: I actually really liked the movie. I'm telling you. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't hate it. I liked it. There was just things
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  Speaker 3: wrong with it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk.
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  Speaker 3: About what we wished for.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: At one point in the movie it got too confusing
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  Speaker 3: for me. Now, maybe it's because I'm watching it on
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  Speaker 3: my phone while getting ready, or maybe I wasn't paying
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  Speaker 3: that close attention. All right, so part of it might
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  Speaker 3: be on me, But it gets a little confusing when
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  Speaker 3: the whole they finally get to Madeleine and she plays
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  Speaker 3: the message for Madeleine, and then Madelene says, you said
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  Speaker 3: your name was Elizabeth. I have a call for you too.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Madelene doesn't recognize Carter's voice in the voicemail
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  Speaker 3: that he leaves mistakenly for Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she practically falls into a pool of tears
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  Speaker 3: when she hears the message he leaves for her on
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  Speaker 3: Elizabeth's voicemail. But she didn't recognize that that's the love
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  Speaker 3: of her life on the phone. Do you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Devil's advocate here. Maybe she recognizes his voice, but
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  Speaker 1: since he's not reaching out to her, she doesn't think
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  Speaker 1: he's interested in reconnecting with her.
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  Speaker 3: Madealie think my old former flame left a voicemail for
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  Speaker 3: somebody named Elizabeth on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I agree that that is confusing,
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  Speaker 1: that there's no resolution to her feelings about getting this message.
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  Speaker 1: But in Madeline's shoes, he had accidentally called you and
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  Speaker 1: left a voicemail.
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  Speaker 2: Which how does that happen?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's gonna hear your voice on your outgoing voicemail message?
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  Speaker 3: Right, good point, he doesn't. You're telling me this is
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  Speaker 3: such a good point. You're telling me that Elizabeth's voicemail
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  Speaker 3: message doesn't say Hi, this is Elizabeth Athens, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: home or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not home.
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  Speaker 3: Please leave your name and number after the beep. But yes,
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  Speaker 3: these voicemails, the outgoing message has to have their name
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  Speaker 3: in them.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, are we.
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  Speaker 1: Just two gen x that we don't realize that the
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  Speaker 1: youths don't have an outgoing message on their voicemail because
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  Speaker 1: nobody leaves a voicemail what what?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Now, my son, who's the only young person I call,
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  Speaker 1: has an outgoing message.
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  Speaker 2: That this is the saying.
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  Speaker 3: It says, Hi, this is so and so and lead message.
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  Speaker 2: Did your daughter have an outgoing message on her voicemail?
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  Speaker 3: You know what? I don't know. I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: call it later and find out.
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  Speaker 2: It might just be.
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  Speaker 3: The the you know, like the standard default message.
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  Speaker 1: She's trying to reach is unavailable.
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  Speaker 2: Please, Yes, I agree with you. That doesn't hold up.
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  Speaker 1: I do think if her voice recognition on his end notwithstanding,
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  Speaker 1: I do think there's a place in which she could
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  Speaker 1: receive this message and think, Wow, he's finally reaching out
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  Speaker 1: to this person for some closure. I'm really disappointed that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't also reach out to me, but I am
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  Speaker 1: glad that he's moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but Madeline didn't put two and two together, Like
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  Speaker 3: she didn't know that Elizabeth was in the car crash. Right,
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  Speaker 3: hmmmmm no, correct, So you're seeing her I hear you
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  Speaker 3: plat holes.
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  Speaker 1: You know. There's a weird scene with Tyler Hines. He's
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  Speaker 1: talking to his sister. He thinks Elizabeth has told him
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  Speaker 1: that she's still in love with her other friend. And
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  Speaker 1: he appears to be having a drink and he says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get another beverage. Yes, And he walks
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  Speaker 1: over to the bar and he goes, I'll have a water,
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  Speaker 1: And it was almost like he was conflicted about it.
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  Speaker 1: M hmmm, like he was just like, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get drunk and then decides against it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I the only reason I.
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  Speaker 1: Notice it is because we don't know what is going
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  Speaker 1: on with Carter until the end. We don't know what
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  Speaker 1: the big moment in his life, the way in which
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  Speaker 1: he feels like he has disappointed people. And I almost
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was giving me the vibes of like.
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  Speaker 2: He's in recovery.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like, you know, I drank too much
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  Speaker 1: and I disappointed people a right whenever the case. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I thought that would They didn't
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  Speaker 1: really address that moment with Tyler. I wasn't fully sure
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  Speaker 1: how I was supposed to feel about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do you know exactly what saying you were
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  Speaker 3: talking about? And thought it was interesting that he was
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  Speaker 3: like drinking a like it looked like it was like
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  Speaker 3: a cocktail of some sort or like a glass of whiskey.
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  Speaker 2: Or something like a brown beverage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeaheah, and he's like, I'm gonna go get another you're right,
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  Speaker 3: and then he has like this second thought of like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'll just take a water. Yeah, I know. I wish
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: that was more fleshed out.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I guess okay, Well, I think this particular plot point
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: was handled as well as it could be in the movie.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I personally don't enjoy a misunderstanding that gets carried on
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: for far too long.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: It's not my favorite. I don't like it in any movie.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Homemark uses it a lot.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Don't get in books.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And even when they have the conversation, what did you hear?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I heard everything? How do you feel?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I feel the same.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: They're not talking about anything, and I don't think people
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: talk like that, and I find it frustrating to watch
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: a misunderstanding continue.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: To carry I have that same note. I said that
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: they're falling back on old Hallmark habits.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Here with this.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I hate the misunderstanding. I can't stand it. It's frustrating
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the watch. You're right, people don't talk like that. If
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: somebody was so vague, I'd be like, what are you
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: talking about? Like, yeah, Yeah, super frustrating.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Agree, And that's all.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: It didn't occur to him ever that she could have
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: been talking about him.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, like he just wants to assume she was
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: talking to the best friend. Yeah, and it wasn't even
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: like he overheard a part of their conversation and there
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: was a slight embrace, like a hug or a shoulder
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: touch or something like that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So he's just going to assume.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Right that she was in love with that guy instead.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I wish we had would have had a little more
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: backstory about like the three friendships and like how closely
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: they were all related, you know what I mean. It's
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: kind of like the felicity Ben and Noel try and
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: give me some backstory, but I know that they don't
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: have enough time for that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So do we ever find out why they didn't take
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the job at the times together?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Simply because he didn't take it? So she doesn't do
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: we find out why he doesn't take it?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Never?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't take it, and so she's like, hum,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take it either.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I was like to work for her mom.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Were they hired as like a investigative team?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: There there was a mention of like a what they say.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Woodward and Bernstein.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm like, did the Times hire them as
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: some team and then he bounced or.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Well, she says at one point, like he finds out
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: She's like, no, I didn't take that job.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So I guess he doesn't.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Even know that she didn't take it. The plot holes abound.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Blake Shelton's, Blake Shelton. It's all your fault, Blake Shelton.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Stop living the life on the voice and fix your movie.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Speaking of which I need less singing. I almost never
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: need an entire song in a movie.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: To Neil Towns.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's very talented, she's lovely, great welcome.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I don't need three minutes of her singing. I don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: need of anyone singing in any movie ever. Really give
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: me someone that I want to see sing on stage.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know, there's nothing that's coming to mind right now, eh.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I was like tuned out, fast forward, No, thank you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: It feels like product placement.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yes you know, yes it's.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Not your Balsam Hill Tree, but it's our new and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: upcoming country singer.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: She's on the label.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, she on the voice.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Do we know. Did you wish for anything else? No? Cool?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Are you ready for dig you see that? Yes?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And I have several?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Oh I only have one. They're mostly complaints. Oh I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: have an actual digit? See that? Oh? Okay. In the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: gift shop.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Where they're looking for the snow globe, Elizabeth's mom walks
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in and she picks up a book and the book
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is called A Christmas to Remember. Christmas to Remember is
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: in fact a Hallmark movie that starred Steve Basic, who
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: plays Carter Bishop in this movie.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: That's funny. Okay, let me start with my complaints. The
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: three friends are talking on the porch. This is at
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the movie, right, and they're talking about
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: how they got this new job at the New York
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Times as soon as they graduate college. Are you to
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: tell me that Holland Roden and Tyler Hines have just
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: graduated from college. I? Yes, they are both thirty six
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: years old.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I was assuming she was younger than he was, so
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: did I. And they don't do anything to make them
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: look younger either in that moment.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: No shave off.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Your beard, dude, Like I mean, film that scene last
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So you can shave your
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: beard off, like, I'm sure it grows back in a
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: week and a half or whatever. But I'm and I'm like,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: you guys don't look twenty two. No, And then I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: was a little rub the wrong way because I thought
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Holland Rowden looked very young compared to Tyler Hines. Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and I was like, are we pairing this guy with
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: this girl who is so young?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: But then it turns out that they're actually both the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: same age. That makes me feel better. That does make
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: me feel better too.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I really didn't want to put Tyler Hines in creepy
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: old dude category.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: No, I was like, can we please just be the
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: same age and have like whatever anyway? But still, but still,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the movie fast forwards three years, right, so if they're
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: coming out of twelve, Tyler Hines does not look like
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: a twenty four or twenty five year old man. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: am sorry, as hot as he is does not live
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: twenty five?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Agree?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Okay? In the same scene, there is digital snow falling, yes,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: and then they they look up and they're gonna wish
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: on a falling star. And I live in southern California.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: But is it possible to be snowing and clear at
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: the same time that you can't see a star falling.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I mean it's a good point.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. Does it snow need to fall
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: from a cloud?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I mean it's rain, right, and it rains when it's cloudy,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: and you can't usually can't usually see the sky when
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: it's raining.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: So I think you're right, somebody, it's stupid that it's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: gonna fall from something.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And the digital snow is put in post production, so
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: why didn't somebody go, oh, hey, that doesn't really.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Work with this. Yeah, I digital snow. It was bad
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: digital snow.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: In this movie too, Yes, and I will I have
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I have another note about the digital snow. At the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: end they're outside and right before kissing, there is so
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: much digital snow that it's so distracting, like I can't
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: even see their faces. Yeah, it's big flakes. Not necessary?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, agree.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Uh this is taking me back, Like I really wanted
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to like this movie and thought I was enjoying it,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: but now I'm here picking it apart. This takes me
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty when I was like, oh I
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: hate this movie.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Woh oh this No, I think you need to rewatch
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a twenty twenty movie.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what else?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: We're fast forward three years and Elizabeth gets to work,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: right She's like getting out of a taxicab and she's like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I'm running late.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm coming in right now.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, who the hell takes taxis anymore? She's
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: supposed to be in Seattle. I'm sure there's an uber.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Around, you know.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I just was like, why are we using this old
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: timy like taxicab to drop somebody off? Like it just
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: doesn't make sense to me. Use a PA's car instead,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you know, like Honda Civic rolls in and she gets
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: out of the back.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Makes way more sense. In twenty twenty two onpecific reeking
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: of pot. Every time I get into an Oberman every time.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I know it's scary and here's my final thing. So
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: it's acting in the movie and Carter is watching Madeleine
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: play like guitar for the country singer oh yeah, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: he like steps, He's like backstage, he steps right in
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: front of a cameraman that's filming in the concert, like
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: his big old head just completely covers the camera. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: then like in the next shot you see like the
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: camera man's like over his shoulder instead. But here's my
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: biggest beef with that whole scene. How did this all
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: happen in one night? Matt is first backstage when Elizabeth
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and Josh find her, right, she's getting ready for the show.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: She is opening. It made it sound like she was
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: opening for this country singer. Yes, and then the next
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: scene she's reuniting with Carter at the diner, and then
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the next scene after that she's back at the concert
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: plane in the backup band.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: How long was the break between sets that that could happen?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, agreed? Maybe mad? Maybe so mad.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: It's so funny because I like this movie. Lest now
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: that we talked to me, I told you, I told you,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But in the moment watching it, I actually really liked
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it and me too. That is what my rating is
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: based upon. Are you ready to rate this?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Sure? Oh I'm so nervous. What did you give it?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I still gave it three stars?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Three stars?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, crime has been committed four point twenty five stars.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Oh my god, stand by it. I had
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a higher rating and even changed it three stars.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I thought you were I thought you were gonna come
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: in with like a two and a half star that
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I had given it to him a rating. No, it's
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: been a long time since we've like rated so so oppositely.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: It really has. Uh.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: This is the third movie in our movie marathon this week.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: We will be back tomorrow.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: With Holiday Spectacular. Alright, have hair all over me? I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: was distracted. We will be back tomorrow with a Holiday spectacular.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Before you go, we love your five star ratings and reviews.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: In the Apple podcast app, we have a blog post
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: all about how to leave them if you would like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to learn how to do that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Until tomorrow, Happy watching y'all.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Bye bye,