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Tom Green _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _564(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is a comedian. He's an actor. He's a filmmaker.
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Speaker 2: He's an innovator.
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Speaker 1: He's a visual entrepreneur who really laid the blueprint for
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Speaker 1: podcasting and prank shows in all types of genres. He's
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Speaker 1: had one of the most unique and legendary careers in comedy,
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Speaker 1: from the Tom Green show on MTV to as many
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Speaker 1: movies like Freddy Got Fingered, Road Trip. He just dropped
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Speaker 1: three new projects on Prime Video, a comedy special, a documentary,
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Speaker 1: and a scripted show. We'll get into all that. We're
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Speaker 1: excited to welcome Canada's son, Mr. Tom Green.
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Speaker 2: Tom Green, it's your first day back in L.A. in
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Speaker 2: four years, did you say?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Feels good, actually. It's... Yeah, it was weird.
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Speaker 3: I just moved four years ago. It was kind of
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Speaker 3: a somewhat spontaneous decision. You know, when COVID happened, remember that?
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Speaker 3: And everything stopped. And all of a sudden, you know,
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Speaker 3: I've been touring and everybody stopped touring, right? At the beginning.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything kind of just stopped.
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember if it was just me that
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Speaker 3: stopped or did everyone stop?
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Speaker 2: Everyone stopped.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So about the first six months or so of that,
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Speaker 3: I was kind of, I'm going to do. And then
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Speaker 3: I just kind of realized I, well, I got this,
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Speaker 3: I was telling you about my van. I got this
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Speaker 3: van and I started going out into the desert and
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Speaker 3: making videos and stuff. Here and outside of LA? Just
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Speaker 3: outside LA. And I loved being out in the desert
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Speaker 3: so much and just waking up in the morning with
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Speaker 3: a cup of coffee and just looking at the sun
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Speaker 3: coming up over the mountains and just the peacefulness of that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's out in the Mojave desert. That was like the
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Speaker 3: first day of the trip, I think four years ago.
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Speaker 3: And so then, uh, you know, I just decided to
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Speaker 3: sell my house. I'd been in my house for 18 years.
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Speaker 3: I sold my house and, uh, went back to Canada
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Speaker 3: and bought a farm near where my parents live. And, uh, just,
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Speaker 3: I can't believe four years went by, but yesterday was
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Speaker 3: the first day back in Los Angeles in the van.
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Speaker 3: We drove back down to the van. So I've been
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Speaker 3: touring with my fiance who you just met. I have
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Speaker 3: a fiance now. Went back to Canada. I've got a
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Speaker 3: fiance from Canada now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good choice.
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Speaker 3: And, uh, and we came back in the van and, uh,
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Speaker 3: and just drove into town yesterday. And, uh, it's pretty
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Speaker 3: weird because it's like, it feels like I, nothing's really, it,
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Speaker 3: it kind of makes you think about time. Time is weird,
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Speaker 3: you know, cause I went away for four years and
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Speaker 3: then you come back and I drove past my house
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Speaker 3: that I lived in for almost 20 years. And now
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Speaker 3: I'm staying in a hotel right down across from where
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Speaker 3: the house is. I can actually see the house from
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Speaker 3: the hotel room. I sort of did that on purpose
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Speaker 3: cause I thought it would be weird. And, um, and, uh,
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Speaker 3: I went to Arts Deli. I lived sort of in
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Speaker 3: the Studio City area here. And I went to Arts
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Speaker 3: Deli and got my same pastrami sandwich and my chicken
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Speaker 3: noodle soup. And I've been going to some of the
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Speaker 3: same restaurants, just been here for a day. And it
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it's been four years. It feels like
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Speaker 3: I actually... I'm driving here. Today, I was sort of almost...
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Speaker 3: Forgot that I didn't live here anymore. I kept thinking, oh,
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Speaker 3: I'll go back to my house after.
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Speaker 4: Oh, right.
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Speaker 3: I don't live here anymore. So that's a strange thing.
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Speaker 3: But on the flip side, in the last four years,
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Speaker 3: I've got a farm, which I've now really settled into.
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Speaker 3: I've got these incredible animals, which are now I'm really
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Speaker 3: bonded with, this mule and this donkey and two horses
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Speaker 3: and chickens. And it's just like this. It's sort of
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Speaker 3: been an incredible, incredible journey the last four years. So, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's been cool.
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Speaker 2: Was it something that you always wanted to have?
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Speaker 1: You feel like a farm– I guess every human kind
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Speaker 1: of maybe feels something like that. I'm going to get
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Speaker 1: a little bit of land. I'm going to get some animals.
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Speaker 1: Was it that or was it– No, it's weird because.
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Speaker 3: I never really imagined having a mule and riding a
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Speaker 3: mule every day. I didn't grow up with that. I
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Speaker 3: grew up in the suburbs of Ottawa, Canada. I'm outside
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Speaker 3: of Ottawa but.
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Speaker 2: And a mule is kind of like the El Camino
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Speaker 2: of horses in a way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's very much the– You know what I'm saying? It's not,
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Speaker 1: it's not me saying, Hey, I'm going to get a horse.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm going to get a mule.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I sort of thought initially I thought it would be
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Speaker 3: kind of funny. And then the mule I happened to find,
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Speaker 3: find Fanny, uh, is her name and she's this beautiful mule.
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Speaker 3: She's this huge animal and, and that's Kia the donkey
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Speaker 3: in the background. And so, um, and so it's just
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Speaker 3: become this sort of amazing change, but yeah, I, um,
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Speaker 3: You know, initially I hadn't really thought of necessarily getting
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Speaker 3: a farm with a mule and all this stuff. But
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Speaker 3: I wanted to get a place that was kind of
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Speaker 3: in nature, really was. And then the farm happened to
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Speaker 3: have these old barns on it. And I thought it'd
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Speaker 3: be kind of cool to get a mule in those barns.
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Speaker 3: So I now am very much loving life up there.
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Speaker 3: I get up in the morning and I saddle her
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Speaker 3: up and ride off into the wilderness. It's pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: Really?
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Speaker 1: And that's never something that you wanted? That was never
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Speaker 1: like a thing of your whole life? Like, I want
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Speaker 1: to have this thing? It just kind of.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I always loved animals. I have my dog, Charlie,
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Speaker 3: and I've always enjoyed being outdoors. But, I mean, it
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Speaker 3: just kind of.
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Speaker 3: I know every once in a while, you know, sometimes
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Speaker 3: when an idea pops into your head and then you
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Speaker 3: just go with it and then all of a sudden
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Speaker 3: you've done it.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: This is like that, except it sort of occurred to
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Speaker 3: me afterwards, you know, as I was doing it, I
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Speaker 3: was realizing, you know, I'm going to have this mule
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Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. You know, like they
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Speaker 3: live to be, donkeys live to be up to 40,
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Speaker 3: 50 years old.
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Speaker 2: Oh my God, really?
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Speaker 3: He is only three. So it's a lifelong commitment.
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Speaker 2: The donkey could live after you.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. She probably will. But yeah, so it's, so, but it's,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's, I think maybe I was looking for
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Speaker 3: something that would kind of ground me, you know, give
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Speaker 3: me that home base that I needed. You know, this
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Speaker 3: is the first, this is the first time I've ever
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Speaker 3: lived somewhere where I know I'm going to be there
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Speaker 3: for the rest of my life.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 3: I'm planting trees and I'm like, I'm thinking, oh, in
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Speaker 3: 20 years, I'm going to, that tree is going to be,
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Speaker 3: and these trees are going to be bigger. And I'm
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Speaker 3: kind of sort of plotting out things that way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I can totally relate with that and what
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Speaker 1: you're saying about LA. LA just feels like this kind of,
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Speaker 1: it's almost like LA doesn't have a memory in it.
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Speaker 1: It feels like, I don't know, other places, I think,
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Speaker 1: especially if it's a place that's a little more grounded,
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Speaker 1: it feels like, maybe more meaningful for some reason.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's, I mean, it's weird. I moved here, I moved
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Speaker 3: here when I was 28. I think it was 28
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Speaker 3: or 29 when I moved to LA. I'm 53 now. And, uh,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I, I loved it. I had a great
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Speaker 3: time here. I wasn't, wasn't leaving LA cause I didn't,
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Speaker 3: you know, like LA or anything. It was just, it
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Speaker 3: was more, I wanted to be close to my parents
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Speaker 3: and they're still doing good. And I wanted to be
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Speaker 3: close to family and stuff. And, but, um, But yeah,
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Speaker 3: it is a unique place for sure. People come here
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Speaker 3: from all over the world, pursue their dreams, and there's
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Speaker 3: sort of an energy there that's exciting. But as I
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Speaker 3: got a little older, I left when I was 50,
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Speaker 3: and not married, no kids, COVID happened. I'd been in
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Speaker 3: my house for 18 years, the real estate market went up.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, maybe I should sell it now
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Speaker 3: as opposed to five years ago, I wouldn't have wanted
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Speaker 3: to sell it. So there was a moment in time,
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Speaker 3: maybe I'll sell this place that I've been living in
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Speaker 3: for 20 years, waiting for the right moment to feel
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Speaker 3: like it was time to go. Because I don't know,
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Speaker 3: I kind of felt like I wanted to be back
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Speaker 3: where I grew up. I mean, you're not from here either.
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Speaker 3: So there's something... There's something very sort of, I guess,
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Speaker 3: deep that you feel when you're home, you know? I know,
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Speaker 3: I'm sure, you're from Tennessee.
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Speaker 2: I'm from Louisiana. I live in Tennessee now.
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Speaker 3: Louisiana, Louisiana.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it gives you, yeah, there's a sense of like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that you've been out of your soil for a long time,
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Speaker 1: you know, that you've kind of.
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Speaker 3: Like when you go back to Louisiana, you must feel like, oh,
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Speaker 3: now I'm at home, right? This home.
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Speaker 1: Oh, there's definitely a ton of nostalgia that I love,
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Speaker 1: you know? I think it makes sense that a part
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Speaker 1: of you wants to kind of go back where you
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Speaker 1: came into the world at or be there, you know,
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Speaker 1: to be, see people that care about me, see that,
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Speaker 1: see people that I care about. I wonder if you've
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Speaker 1: gotten enough of the, like the adventure out of your
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Speaker 1: system in some ways, you can still have the adventure,
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Speaker 1: but just have it from there, you know? And I
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Speaker 1: think also the part, like you're saying about, this is
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Speaker 1: the first time you'd ever like planted plants.
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Speaker 2: You're like, I'll see these.
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Speaker 1: I've always felt like my life was very um transient
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Speaker 1: like i was just passing by i've never been the
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Speaker 1: type of guy to get like a lot of furniture
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Speaker 1: or artwork or anything i'm always just like i don't
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Speaker 1: know how long i'm going to be here and it's
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Speaker 1: always and here i'm in my 40s and it's still
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Speaker 1: like i still kind of operate like that but at
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Speaker 1: a certain point it's like yeah you want something that's
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Speaker 1: a little bit more settling um And if you found
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Speaker 1: a fiance, I'm sure that kind of helped a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Amanda's here. It's her first time in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 2: Nice. At least you get to be a host and
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Speaker 2: a tour guide. That's kind of nice.
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Speaker 3: Showing around my old hometown, my new old hometown.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And a camper too, dude. What was that about? Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So that's been pretty wild. So like, because when I
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Speaker 3: got this van, I kind of got pretty good at it,
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Speaker 3: like going to really remote places in the American Southwest,
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Speaker 3: particularly like in New Mexico and Zion?
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Speaker 2: You go to Zion?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to Zion. I did camp in Zion,
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Speaker 3: but like there's this other kind of land called BLM land.
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Speaker 3: It's Bureau of Land Management land that is basically all
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Speaker 3: of the desert and land that is owned by the
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Speaker 3: US government. It's managed by the Bureau of Land Management
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Speaker 3: and they'll cut roads into the desert and they'll put
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Speaker 3: sort of campsite areas with fire pits and stuff. They
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Speaker 3: kind of keep it somewhat um, organized so that people
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Speaker 3: don't go driving all around the desert and trash in
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Speaker 3: the desert. They have these roads and stuff. So you
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Speaker 3: can get, I got this app, it's called, uh, Dirt, D-U-I-R-T.
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Speaker 3: It's like, it's basically an app that gives you all
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Speaker 3: the different locations of these sort of really obscure places
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Speaker 3: that are not even in national parks or anything.
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Speaker 2: D-U-I-R-T.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And so it kind of like, you find stuff
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Speaker 3: that is just unbelievable. Like, um, You know, I sort
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Speaker 3: of can't stop talking about it to people that don't
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Speaker 3: know about it, but like, I mean, you may know
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Speaker 3: about Chaco Canyon, but I'd never heard of it before.
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Speaker 3: It was, it's this, it's, it's in New Mexico. And
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Speaker 3: in fact, if you go to my last YouTube video
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Speaker 3: on my YouTube channel, that's just a video I shot
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Speaker 3: a couple of days ago. And you can scroll down
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Speaker 3: to like the second video, go to the second video.
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Speaker 3: This is Chaco Canyon. So this is like Native American
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Speaker 3: ruins that are essentially like built in the year 875.
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, and it's like this, it's a city,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's like a city in the desert. Um,
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Speaker 3: and it's just out there in the middle of Northern
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Speaker 3: New Mexico. This is, this is Amanda, my fiance, Amanda.
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Speaker 2: And, uh.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 3: And we're just going around making these videos and, but
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Speaker 3: you'll see, like, look at this place. So it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, everyone always talks about Machu Picchu in Peru
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Speaker 3: and they talk about all these incredible things in, you know,
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Speaker 3: ancient Mexico. you know, uh, you know, places, but like
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Speaker 3: the fact that you can just drive out of Albuquerque,
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Speaker 3: you know, drive North Albuquerque, you know, wow, this is there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: This is there. And it's really remote. Like it's on
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Speaker 3: the Navajo nation, uh, uh, land. And so we just
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Speaker 3: were out there camping for four nights and, uh, exploring
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Speaker 3: and hiking off into this beautiful desert and, Um.
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Speaker 2: Getting some good rest out there. Do you get good
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Speaker 2: rest when you're out on the road?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: God, that's nice. It's nice.
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Speaker 3: Just, it's quiet.
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Speaker 2: That's the tough thing to get, man.
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Speaker 3: It's cooking on the campfire and, and it's just been
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Speaker 3: a fun. And I enjoy photography, you know.
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Speaker 2: You're shooting this really, really well.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I got sort of lots of different cameras and stuff.
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Speaker 3: And I, uh, I like to kind of, uh, do that.
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Speaker 3: So it's, there's something about shooting out in the desert.
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Speaker 3: That's just so beautiful. Cause you have these long horizons and,
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Speaker 3: you know, big open spaces, but, and there's an energy
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Speaker 3: there that is just something that's hard to put your
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Speaker 3: finger on, but it just, you know, I always kind
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Speaker 3: of sort of, I never really kind of really maybe
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Speaker 3: didn't even believe in that when I was younger, when
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Speaker 3: people would talk about the energy and Sedona's got this energy,
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Speaker 3: but you know, I, I feel this energy out there.
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Speaker 3: That's just of the people that live there that built
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Speaker 3: that place. It's, it's, it's, and, and other places like it.
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Speaker 3: So it's kind of fun to go seek those places out,
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Speaker 3: you know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll meet a lot of women. You're like, I
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Speaker 2: never have a period when I'm in Sedona or whatever.
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Speaker 2: And you're like, well, that's... what are we talking? I'm
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Speaker 2: saying like, but there's some.
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Speaker 3: Crazy, you've met a lot of women that have said that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think you meet a lot of
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Speaker 1: women who are, uh, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, a specific thing for a lot of people to
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Speaker 3: have said, but yeah.
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Speaker 1: A lot of women are keeping crystals in the wrong
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Speaker 1: places probably, you know, but yeah, you meet a lot
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Speaker 1: of people who are into that sort of thing. But
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Speaker 1: I think that's probably like, I mean the natives, it
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Speaker 1: always feels to me like the natives are probably so
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Speaker 1: in touch, more in touch with the earth and locked
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Speaker 1: in on like the feeling of like the best places
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Speaker 1: to be. That's why they love to be in. And like,
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Speaker 1: the Dakotas and in the Black Hills and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: And so to be able to go to one of
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Speaker 1: those ruins, I bet, I bet there's still a lot
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Speaker 1: of like, just a lot of prehistoric or like native
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Speaker 1: connection that's just looking for souls to pass through, you know?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. What you just said is like really interesting because
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Speaker 3: I was talking to basically an archaeologist the other day
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Speaker 3: and he said exactly what you just said. Like there's
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Speaker 3: this thing called intuitive archaeology where they go Cause there's
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Speaker 3: still stuff out in the desert that people haven't even
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Speaker 3: found yet. Like it's, that's how big it is and
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Speaker 3: how vast it is. And so they go out into
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Speaker 3: these canyons and Northern Arizona and Utah looking for signs of,
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Speaker 3: you know, ancient settlements and stuff. And, uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: they're sort of taught to intuitive archeology. If you're in
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Speaker 3: a place that feels like it would be a nice
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Speaker 3: place to have lived, you know, a beautiful place.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There's a good chance. that feeling is correct. And then
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Speaker 3: you should sort of listen to that instinct and start
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Speaker 3: looking for signs of ancient civilization. But it's pretty amazing
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Speaker 3: because you do feel something out there. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I was talking about this friend the other day too. Like,
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Speaker 3: you ever go in like an old comedy club that's been,
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Speaker 3: you know, like Zany's in Nashville or Downtown Chicago is
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Speaker 3: an old club, you know, and you see all the
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Speaker 3: old pictures from the comics from back in the 70s
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Speaker 3: and 80s. And it's, you know, that club's been there forever.
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Speaker 3: And you kind of feel the energy of, you see
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Speaker 3: a lot of comics that have passed away on the wall.
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Speaker 3: And you say, oh, my God, Sam Kinison performed here.
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Speaker 3: You know, I can sort of feel that energy of
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Speaker 3: the performance in the room, you know. So, you know,
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Speaker 3: that's from 45. years ago or whatever. But now you
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Speaker 3: take it back to the year 875, you're out in
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Speaker 3: the desert. And this place, Chaco Canyon, was a whole
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Speaker 3: society where they did trading and people came from all
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Speaker 3: over North America there. So it's a very peaceful thing.
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Speaker 3: I do enjoy it quite a bit.
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Speaker 1: And is that something that you and your fiance have
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Speaker 1: kind of... Something you've really... Is that something you guys
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Speaker 1: have found you like doing together? I mean, so to
16:54
Speaker 1: go camping, a lot of people would end up getting separated.
16:56
Speaker 2: Usually I feel like.
16:58
Speaker 3: This is her first time, uh, actually really coming to
17:01
Speaker 3: throughout a lot of the United States too. So she's,
17:03
Speaker 3: you know, she's from Canada, uh, and, uh, hasn't been
17:07
Speaker 3: out to the desert before. So, um, but, uh, she's,
17:11
Speaker 3: I mean, she's, she's, we're having fun, you know, we're
17:13
Speaker 3: having fun out there, but it's, uh, it's, um, you know,
17:16
Speaker 3: we just have, this is our first trip doing this. So, uh,
17:19
Speaker 3: it's been cool.
17:20
Speaker 2: Was it scary to get engaged? Because you've been married before.
17:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, briefly, yeah. I was briefly married, yeah.
17:28
Speaker 2: And then.
17:28
Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, too, yeah.
17:30
Speaker 2: And you hadn't been married since, though?
17:31
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
17:32
Speaker 2: Okay.
17:32
Speaker 3: It's the first time engaged since. You know, no, it
17:36
Speaker 3: was not scary because... Because that was Drew Barrymore, right?
17:38
Speaker 2: Yeah. In the early 2000s or something?
17:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. But no, it wasn't scary because
17:45
Speaker 3: Amanda's amazing, you know, so I knew it was the
17:47
Speaker 3: right thing, the right This was the thing to do.
17:52
Speaker 3: This had to be done.
17:53
Speaker 2: That feels like the hardest decision. Yeah, I think that's
17:55
Speaker 2: the thing.
17:55
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I would like to get married, you know,
17:57
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking like, man, that day when you're like,
18:00
Speaker 1: all right, I guess I'm going to get married today.
18:02
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy when I say that out loud, you know.
18:05
Speaker 3: You're a young guy too.
18:06
Speaker 2: To think that.
18:07
Speaker 3: There was a lot of things that happened that, you know,
18:09
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to talk about, you know,
18:11
Speaker 3: I'm talking a lot about energy, but coincidences and synchronicity
18:15
Speaker 3: and things like this. I moved back to Canada. and
18:19
Speaker 3: I have a pond on my property, and in the winter,
18:23
Speaker 3: it freezes over, and I shoveled the snow off the pond,
18:27
Speaker 3: and I was playing hockey on the pond, like skating,
18:31
Speaker 3: playing hockey on the pond. I shot a video of
18:34
Speaker 3: that and put it up on the social medias. There
18:39
Speaker 3: we go. That's beautiful. Here we are out at the pond. Wow,
18:43
Speaker 3: you got a fast guy on the draw out there
18:46
Speaker 3: on the, I just literally just said that and he
18:49
Speaker 3: instantly found, yeah, so we're drilling a hole in the
18:52
Speaker 3: pond here and that's, and then we can pump the
18:55
Speaker 3: water out of that back on top of the pond
18:57
Speaker 3: and give it a nice smooth, icy, that's my friend Ryan.
19:01
Speaker 2: Oh wait, so what are you using here to do this?
19:03
Speaker 2: This is a.
19:04
Speaker 3: It's just a little sort of a. kind of some
19:06
Speaker 3: sort of a ice auger or some sort.
19:07
Speaker 2: Okay. So that, so you take the whole, and then
19:09
Speaker 2: you pump the water out.
19:10
Speaker 3: Then we got a pump. We just stick a fire
19:11
Speaker 3: hose down in there and we pump water out of it.
19:13
Speaker 3: We pump it up on top of the, of the,
19:15
Speaker 3: of the ice and just basically flood the ice. And
19:18
Speaker 3: then it freezes cause at night. And then we get nice,
19:20
Speaker 3: some nice smooth ice out there.
19:22
Speaker 2: How long does that process take?
19:24
Speaker 3: Uh, just a day, you know, this just took a day.
19:25
Speaker 3: The next morning was completely, uh, completely frozen, but then
19:29
Speaker 3: you get two feet of snow and then you got
19:31
Speaker 3: to do it all over again. But, uh, Which kind
19:33
Speaker 3: of puts a damper on it.
19:34
Speaker 2: Wow, this is so cool. So that right there that
19:36
Speaker 2: you're on is a lake.
19:38
Speaker 3: It's a pond. It's a pond, yeah.
19:39
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a pond. There's the dock. So usually
19:41
Speaker 1: it's water.
19:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
19:43
Speaker 1: Right now you cut the holes. You're pumping the water
19:45
Speaker 1: out of the pond onto the top of.
19:48
Speaker 2: The ice, which is on the top of the pond.
19:50
Speaker 3: Yeah and then it gets it's cold you know it's
19:52
Speaker 3: below zero so then the next morning it was pretty
19:54
Speaker 3: much ready to now normally you would shovel it off
19:57
Speaker 3: first but we just kind of we're kind of a
19:59
Speaker 3: little uh lazy about that i guess and we just
20:02
Speaker 3: flooded it instead which it ended up working out fine
20:05
Speaker 3: But probably would have been better if we'd shoveled it
20:07
Speaker 3: off first. But that seems like that would have been
20:09
Speaker 3: a lot of work.
20:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to do that.
20:11
Speaker 3: But there you go.
20:13
Speaker 4: See?
20:13
Speaker 3: And then... Hot. So, yeah. So, we were doing this.
20:16
Speaker 3: And then I was shooting these videos playing hockey. There
20:19
Speaker 3: we go.
20:20
Speaker 2: This is the next day?
20:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like probably the next day.
20:23
Speaker 2: So, this is a common practice in Canada?
20:25
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you have a pond, I mean,
20:28
Speaker 3: those are the barns in the background. That's my house
20:30
Speaker 3: up there behind there. And so... Wow. We used to
20:35
Speaker 3: do it in my backyard when I was a kid.
20:36
Speaker 3: We used to flood the backyard.
20:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gretzky talked about that.
20:40
Speaker 4: Right.
20:41
Speaker 2: When he was on air, he talked about flooding his backyard.
20:42
Speaker 3: That's cool, yeah.
20:43
Speaker 2: Pretty cool.
20:43
Speaker 3: That's amazing. The great one. Yeah.
20:46
Speaker 2: I saw him at the inauguration. He lost a tooth.
20:49
Speaker 3: Okay.
20:49
Speaker 2: At the inauguration, he lost a tooth. Yeah, I chipped
20:52
Speaker 2: my tooth, and I walked up to him.
20:53
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I chipped my tooth, and he's like, oh, yeah,
20:55
Speaker 1: and he showed me this, and he freaking lost one.
20:57
Speaker 2: Him and his wife were looking for it on the ground.
20:59
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, but it had been knocked out previously in
21:01
Speaker 3: a hockey game of some sort.
21:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
21:03
Speaker 3: You didn't get punched out at the inauguration.
21:05
Speaker 1: No, I think he could have been shocked by something
21:07
Speaker 1: he saw, and maybe that took it out, but yeah,
21:10
Speaker 1: he was just missing a grill piece at the inauguration.
21:13
Speaker 2: It was just pretty bizarre.
21:14
Speaker 3: Man, that's cool.
21:15
Speaker 1: Dude, that's amazing. So these are the types of things
21:17
Speaker 1: you're spending time doing up there. You really document it
21:19
Speaker 1: really beautifully. And a lot of that doesn't even have
21:21
Speaker 1: a lot of audio with it. It's really just seeing.
21:23
Speaker 1: I've noticed this in some of your videos. It's just
21:25
Speaker 1: kind of seeing what's going on. Yeah, yeah.
21:27
Speaker 3: I kind of like to just kind of do these
21:28
Speaker 3: sort of ambient sort of things to kind of just
21:33
Speaker 3: kind of bring you into a certain place. It's sort
21:37
Speaker 3: of like I like photography. This is just doing it
21:40
Speaker 3: with video and being there. But after I posted that video, Amanda,
21:45
Speaker 3: my fiance, she saw it and she sent me a
21:47
Speaker 3: message on Instagram. This is how we met. And it
21:49
Speaker 3: was a video of a Zamboni, a do-it-yourself Zamboni, which
21:54
Speaker 3: is what a Zamboni is what you use to clean
21:56
Speaker 3: off the ice in a hockey rink, right? And so
21:58
Speaker 3: it was this homemade one. And we started, I just
22:00
Speaker 3: started talking to her because I thought it was a
22:02
Speaker 3: funny thing to send. And we, turns out we went
22:04
Speaker 3: to the same elementary school. And, uh, yeah, it was
22:08
Speaker 3: just sort of, uh, it was, it was, it was
22:10
Speaker 3: just went, went from there. So cool.
22:12
Speaker 2: Congratulations. Yeah.
22:14
Speaker 3: Thanks man.
22:14
Speaker 2: So did you meet your parents yet or no? Oh yeah.
22:17
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
22:19
Speaker 2: Were your parents happy to have you back home? What
22:20
Speaker 2: was that like?
22:21
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, no, they are for sure. Yeah. No hesitation.
22:24
Speaker 3: They were excited for me to come home, believe it
22:26
Speaker 3: or not, you know, cause sometimes people wonder, you know,
22:28
Speaker 3: cause he used to do a lot of pranks on them.
22:30
Speaker 3: Do they still talk to you? You know, but, uh,
22:33
Speaker 3: my parents, uh, We were always very close. Even when
22:37
Speaker 3: I was doing my show on MTV and doing pranks
22:40
Speaker 3: on them and annoying them with the video camera, they
22:44
Speaker 3: would sort of laugh afterwards. And we've always had a
22:48
Speaker 3: very close relationship. They're actually in my new show on Prime.
22:52
Speaker 3: It's sort of. About me moving home.
22:55
Speaker 2: Okay.
22:55
Speaker 3: Shows about me moving home.
22:57
Speaker 2: That's not the I Got a Mule. That's not that.
22:59
Speaker 3: That's my stand-up special.
23:00
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a stand-up special. That's on Prime as well
23:02
Speaker 2: right now, huh? Yeah, yeah.
23:03
Speaker 3: And there's a documentary on Prime and then the show
23:05
Speaker 3: called Tom Green Country. And it's sort of about me
23:09
Speaker 3: settling in at the farm. And they're hilarious. I mean,
23:12
Speaker 3: they really make the show. Like there's something about their
23:16
Speaker 3: sense of humor is– They're kind of razzing me in
23:19
Speaker 3: the new show more than me pulling pranks on them.
23:22
Speaker 3: I don't do that anymore.
23:23
Speaker 2: Kind of full circle.
23:24
Speaker 3: They've retired from being pranked.
23:25
Speaker 2: From being a victim?
23:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: on your first box. When you look back on it,
26:20
Speaker 1: do you ever able to figure out a reason why
26:22
Speaker 1: you liked to record things or like what you got
26:25
Speaker 1: out of like, you know, because as we get older,
26:28
Speaker 1: you kind of start to get a little bit of
26:29
Speaker 1: like an overview kind of way. of ourselves even, you know,
26:33
Speaker 1: in the world, maybe a little bit, a little bit
26:34
Speaker 1: of an idea of what we have been doing in
26:37
Speaker 1: the world. You ever able to figure any of that out?
26:40
Speaker 1: Kind of like the reasoning behind some of it, like
26:42
Speaker 1: why you liked capturing things or why you liked like
26:45
Speaker 1: pulling the wool over people's, or, you know.
26:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:48
Speaker 3: I think there was kind of a, a few layers
26:52
Speaker 3: to that for sure. And that's a cool question. Um,
26:55
Speaker 3: it's a great question. Cause like, One thing was we
27:01
Speaker 3: never really had a video camera. I grew up in
27:09
Speaker 3: the 80s, so we didn't have a video camera or
27:12
Speaker 3: even a film camera. We didn't even take a lot
27:14
Speaker 3: of photos. It was kind of expensive. People that had
27:18
Speaker 3: a video camera, they had a lot of money. They
27:20
Speaker 3: had a video camera. We never had a video camera.
27:23
Speaker 3: And so when all of a sudden they became somewhat attainable,
27:27
Speaker 3: you know, I would sort of sign one out at school.
27:31
Speaker 3: And I found that it was kind of a... First
27:38
Speaker 3: of all, I loved comedy. So I loved David Letterman.
27:42
Speaker 3: I loved watching him go out in the street and
27:44
Speaker 3: do stuff. And I loved Monty Python and SCTV. And
27:50
Speaker 3: I just loved comedy. I was doing stand-up comedy in
27:54
Speaker 3: Ottawa when I was 16 years old. And I was.
27:58
Speaker 3: Would go down to watch you know norm mcdonald you
28:00
Speaker 3: know when he was in his 20s you know and
28:02
Speaker 3: i'm just like it was sort of a this amazing
28:05
Speaker 3: thing and i somehow had this sort of feeling that
28:08
Speaker 3: if i could just get a video camera and go
28:11
Speaker 3: film stuff that you know maybe i could uh you
28:15
Speaker 3: know make a show or whatever but there's also a
28:19
Speaker 3: skateboarder you know and that was that was sort of
28:21
Speaker 3: skateboarding videos were Holy shit. Look at this. This is amazing.
28:25
Speaker 3: How did you find that so fast? Yeah, there me
28:27
Speaker 3: at 16 years old. Yuck, yucks.
28:30
Speaker 4: Yeah.
28:31
Speaker 3: How did you find that so fast? I don't even
28:32
Speaker 3: know how... You must have had that in advance. That
28:34
Speaker 3: is unbelievable. Is there some sort of weird algorithm here
28:36
Speaker 3: or something like that?
28:37
Speaker 2: I don't know if they did or not, but yeah,
28:38
Speaker 2: it looks great. Wow. Yeah, it looks so... Yeah.
28:41
Speaker 3: Look at that microphone too. It's like, I don't even...
28:42
Speaker 3: They didn't even use the right microphone back then.
28:45
Speaker 2: But....
28:46
Speaker 3: But I, no, I just, I don't know, I often
28:51
Speaker 3: kind of like think there's something about like, I don't know,
28:57
Speaker 3: I think I've always been really afraid of the concept
28:59
Speaker 3: of like being dead, you know, like being gone and
29:04
Speaker 3: like there being no sort of, you know, recollection of
29:10
Speaker 3: anything that you've ever done, right? And I always found
29:14
Speaker 3: it interesting to just kind of document things and just
29:18
Speaker 3: record things and that'll be there, you know, in some
29:21
Speaker 3: electronic way floating around there forever. And it sort of
29:24
Speaker 3: feels in a little way like kind of like sort
29:25
Speaker 3: of a weird kind of immortality in a way, you know.
29:30
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of what fascinates me about these
29:32
Speaker 3: ruins in the desert too. Like these people came and
29:34
Speaker 3: built these things in the year 875 and I'm walking
29:37
Speaker 3: through it and looking at it and filming it and
29:38
Speaker 3: talking about it with you. And so they're kind of
29:41
Speaker 3: in a way kind of remembered, you know?
29:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:44
Speaker 3: And then there was also just kind of the blatant,
29:47
Speaker 3: you know, when I was younger, I was a little,
29:52
Speaker 3: quite a bit different than I am now. I think
29:53
Speaker 3: I've calmed down quite a bit. Like when I was younger,
29:56
Speaker 3: I really always needed to be kind of like, you know,
29:59
Speaker 3: the center of attention, the class clown, moving around a lot.
30:03
Speaker 3: He was weird as a kid. So to me, it
30:06
Speaker 3: seemed like a really good way of just kind of,
30:09
Speaker 3: you know, documenting all of this silliness, you know, and
30:15
Speaker 3: I loved it. You know, I love filming stuff and
30:17
Speaker 3: showing it to people at school.
30:20
Speaker 2: You captured so much.
30:20
Speaker 1: You were one of the first people really to just
30:23
Speaker 1: capture shit and just show it to people kind of,
30:25
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of like, Not shit, but I mean, just.
30:28
Speaker 4: Cat, you know?
30:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, no shit for sure.
30:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:30
Speaker 3: Actually actual shit was involved quite a bit.
30:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:33
Speaker 2: We're going to capture shit and show it to you.
30:35
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
30:36
Speaker 1: Like, this is what we mean. And I can totally
30:39
Speaker 1: relate to what you said about, um, dude, I used to,
30:42
Speaker 1: when I was, I guess probably turning around 20 to
30:46
Speaker 1: probably 28, I would make postcards and I would send
30:50
Speaker 1: them to my kids that weren't even born yet. Like
30:52
Speaker 1: whenever I was traveling somewhere, I would send them, I
30:55
Speaker 1: would make them out to my kids. I just wanted
30:57
Speaker 1: my kids to know that I'd been, I needed there
31:00
Speaker 1: to be some record that I like cared about my children,
31:04
Speaker 1: even though they weren't here yet, which is kind of
31:06
Speaker 1: a crazy thing, but it made me think about what
31:08
Speaker 1: you're saying. Like, and I would scrapbook, I would save things.
31:11
Speaker 1: Like I just wanted there to be like some proof
31:15
Speaker 1: that I felt something in the world and that I existed. Right.
31:18
Speaker 1: I think I just didn't, I don't know if I
31:20
Speaker 1: just didn't have a lot of that. Or I needed
31:24
Speaker 1: an insane amount of proof, and so that's why I
31:27
Speaker 1: did it. But yeah, I could definitely relate to that,
31:30
Speaker 1: to wanting to have some.
31:34
Speaker 2: Timeline.
31:35
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:37
Speaker 2: Just in case time ever showed up and said, hey,
31:39
Speaker 2: were you here? I could be like, well.
31:40
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, here I was, you know? I could show
31:44
Speaker 2: you my homework kind of or something, you know?
31:47
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, I can relate to that because I talk
31:49
Speaker 3: a little bit in my stand-up special about not having kids.
31:53
Speaker 3: And I sometimes think it's kind of a bit of
31:55
Speaker 3: a message to my future children that, you know, that
32:01
Speaker 3: I'm aware that I haven't had them yet, you know?
32:03
Speaker 3: And so I totally understand what you're saying about that. It's, yeah,
32:08
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a weird thing, you know, because... 20
32:13
Speaker 3: years ago, nobody had, definitely 30 years ago, nobody had
32:18
Speaker 3: video cameras really like they do now. But now everybody
32:21
Speaker 3: with their phones, everything documented. It's so normal now, but
32:26
Speaker 3: I just put this documentary out on Prime, which is
32:30
Speaker 3: called This is the Tom Green Documentary. It's sort of
32:32
Speaker 3: a play on my old theme song on my show.
32:33
Speaker 3: This is the Tom Green Show was the song, right?
32:37
Speaker 3: So I went through like, Thousands of hours of video.
32:44
Speaker 3: I'm going back looking at 17-year-old me running around doing stuff.
32:49
Speaker 3: And it was actually kind of a pretty somewhat terrifying
32:56
Speaker 3: experience actually because it was like this opportunity to kind
32:59
Speaker 3: of tell the story of everything that happened with my
33:04
Speaker 3: show and everything that happened with my experience here in LA.
33:07
Speaker 3: And I wanted to kind of tell the story right.
33:12
Speaker 3: And I've got so much video. And combing through all
33:16
Speaker 3: of it was at times, you know, somewhat kind of
33:21
Speaker 3: like I would be looking at myself like I'm looking
33:23
Speaker 3: at a completely different person. And I can't even believe,
33:26
Speaker 3: you know, I'm finding things I don't even remember happening.
33:31
Speaker 3: And I'm looking at things that are just so complicated.
33:33
Speaker 3: completely bonkers and silly and ridiculous. I'm like, whoa. Sometimes
33:38
Speaker 3: I couldn't look at the TV. I'm like, oh my,
33:40
Speaker 3: what was I doing?
33:41
Speaker 2: That's how you made us feel.
33:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I was doing it to myself 20 years,
33:46
Speaker 3: 30 years later. And no, I wouldn't recommend it to
33:49
Speaker 3: anybody to go make a documentary about yourself. Definitely hire
33:52
Speaker 3: somebody to do that and never watch it. But no,
33:55
Speaker 3: it was fun because I wanted to tell the story
33:58
Speaker 3: the right way, but it was also kind of very surreal.
34:02
Speaker 1: But you know, was it hard to be true to
34:04
Speaker 1: yourself making like, you know, making your own documentary and,
34:07
Speaker 1: and no one should probably make your documentary except for you.
34:10
Speaker 1: Cause you're one of the rare cases. It feels like
34:12
Speaker 1: that has so much has documented themselves so much, you know, like, um,
34:18
Speaker 1: and I don't even know.
34:19
Speaker 2: If it's, I don't know if it seemed.
34:21
Speaker 1: Like an egotistical way. I don't think it ever came
34:23
Speaker 1: across like that of your footage. It just came across.
34:26
Speaker 1: So you wanted to have control.
34:28
Speaker 2: Over how you have yourself. You wanted to put yourself
34:31
Speaker 2: out there.
34:32
Speaker 1: Um, but was it hard to make a documentary and
34:35
Speaker 1: not want to like make yourself the hero or something?
34:38
Speaker 2: Or I don't, I've never made a documentary before. Yeah. Yeah.
34:40
Speaker 2: Or was there any of that in it or how
34:42
Speaker 2: do I make this?
34:43
Speaker 3: It's like the first scene of the documentary, I'm sitting
34:45
Speaker 3: with my mother and she actually says, are you really
34:47
Speaker 3: supposed to do, direct a documentary about yourself? I mean,
34:50
Speaker 3: can't you kind of whitewash that a little bit? Are
34:52
Speaker 3: you going to do that? Yeah, I'm going to do that. So, but, um,
34:55
Speaker 3: honestly the, I wanted to be, uh, you know, I
35:00
Speaker 3: wanted to be, I didn't not want to completely like,
35:04
Speaker 3: you know, put a false story out there. So I
35:07
Speaker 3: think the hardest part was trying to figure out how
35:10
Speaker 3: to not be too self-deprecating, you know, because, you know,
35:14
Speaker 3: you think, you know, you know, when you get to
35:17
Speaker 3: my age, you know, you look back and you think,
35:20
Speaker 3: oh my God, I wish I hadn't done that, or
35:21
Speaker 3: I wish I hadn't done that, or I shouldn't have
35:22
Speaker 3: said that, or shouldn't have done that. And, you know,
35:24
Speaker 3: I have a lot of those things, right? They're constantly
35:26
Speaker 3: rattling around in my head. And you start to think like,
35:31
Speaker 3: you know, man, maybe this is a good way for
35:33
Speaker 3: me to go and just like apologize for everything that
35:36
Speaker 3: I perceived that I've done wrong in my life.
35:38
Speaker 4: Right.
35:40
Speaker 3: And then you have to kind of take a step
35:41
Speaker 3: back and go, well, wait a minute, you know, like
35:42
Speaker 3: that's might just be in my head, you know? So
35:44
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time talking to a lot
35:46
Speaker 3: of people about, you know, people that I know, people
35:50
Speaker 3: I'm close with about the story of really, it's the
35:54
Speaker 3: story of the, of the show. And, uh, and takes
35:58
Speaker 3: us through the story of kind of creating the show
36:00
Speaker 3: and then building, you know, before the show with my
36:04
Speaker 3: music and then after the show with building a, you know,
36:08
Speaker 3: a sort of a web TV studio, right. In my,
36:11
Speaker 3: in here in Los Angeles. And it's sort of a
36:14
Speaker 3: telling of that story, but then I wanted to talk
36:16
Speaker 3: a bit about some of the, uh, you know, personal
36:19
Speaker 3: sort of, uh, you know, uh, things that I went through.
36:23
Speaker 3: I mean, I had cancer when I was on MTV and, uh,
36:26
Speaker 3: talked about that. I made this movie, Freddy Got Fingered,
36:29
Speaker 3: which was not critically completely embraced. So it's like, I
36:39
Speaker 3: wanted to explain myself a bit, but then at the
36:43
Speaker 3: same time, there's a lot of people now that like
36:44
Speaker 3: the movie, believe it or not. So I didn't want
36:46
Speaker 3: to completely.
36:48
Speaker 2: And hate the critics now.
36:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
36:49
Speaker 3: So it's sort of like, it was a very tricky
36:52
Speaker 3: balancing act And then on top of that, there's just
36:56
Speaker 3: so much footage and so many weird little funny clips
36:59
Speaker 3: that only I know are the ones that people like
37:02
Speaker 3: or people have or haven't seen. And I kind of
37:04
Speaker 3: wanted to make sense of that all and piece it
37:06
Speaker 3: all together. I don't think anyone else would have been
37:07
Speaker 3: able to find it all, you know? Yeah.
37:12
Speaker 1: Was there a project that you kind of wanted to
37:13
Speaker 1: do over the years that you didn't really nail or
37:16
Speaker 1: you didn't– something that didn't happen?
37:19
Speaker 2: Was there something? Because you've just done so much stuff.
37:21
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's– It's, it's interesting. Cause like,
37:27
Speaker 3: in fact, that's part of what the documentary is about.
37:29
Speaker 3: Cause like when I was, uh, got into making the
37:33
Speaker 3: show when I was growing up, all I could even
37:38
Speaker 3: imagine myself doing was I wanted to be a talk
37:40
Speaker 3: show host. You know, I wanted to do basically a
37:42
Speaker 3: show like David Letterman, right. Have guests on. And then
37:45
Speaker 3: I go out in the street and, you know, be
37:47
Speaker 3: a nutcase, you know, do goofy stuff. Right. And, uh,
37:51
Speaker 3: I got to do that, you know, a few times
37:53
Speaker 3: over the years. And, um, you know, when those shows
37:58
Speaker 3: go away, you know, initially when that happened, you know,
38:01
Speaker 3: that was back in the day of MTV, you know,
38:02
Speaker 3: the first show I stopped when I got sick. So,
38:05
Speaker 3: you know, it didn't actually get canceled, the Tom Green show.
38:07
Speaker 3: But then when I started, I did a nightly show,
38:10
Speaker 3: it kind of, you know, when it kind of got canceled,
38:13
Speaker 3: I was thinking, oh my gosh, you know, this is
38:15
Speaker 3: the worst thing that could ever happen to me that
38:19
Speaker 3: I could ever imagine that I'm not going to be
38:21
Speaker 3: able to do a nightly talk show. This was devastating
38:27
Speaker 3: to me. And as time marches on and I look
38:32
Speaker 3: at all the things that I've done instead, touring, doing
38:37
Speaker 3: standup or moving back to the farm and everything in between,
38:43
Speaker 3: I kind of realized, man, I'm kind of Kind of
38:46
Speaker 3: glad that actually didn't work out because if that show
38:50
Speaker 3: had been a big hit, then I would have been
38:51
Speaker 3: going down to the same studio every night for the
38:53
Speaker 3: last 30 years and I wouldn't have gotten to do
38:55
Speaker 3: all these other things. So Freddy Got Fingered, of course,
39:00
Speaker 3: was a idiotic movie, purposefully so.
39:05
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you guys make that yourselves? Yeah.
39:07
Speaker 3: I wrote it with my friend, Derek, and I directed it.
39:11
Speaker 2: You did? Was it your first time you'd ever directed
39:12
Speaker 2: a movie?
39:13
Speaker 3: It was, yeah.
39:13
Speaker 2: Wow.
39:14
Speaker 3: It was, but it was, we had a budget, you know,
39:16
Speaker 3: it was 20th century Fox. We had, you know, cause
39:18
Speaker 3: the show was doing good on MTV. So they, uh,
39:21
Speaker 3: they let me direct it, you know, they let me
39:23
Speaker 3: do that, which was, um, you know, probably a mistake,
39:26
Speaker 3: but no, they, uh, no, it was, uh, you know,
39:28
Speaker 3: we really pushed it to make it like we We
39:30
Speaker 3: were in our 20s. So the idea was, let's make
39:33
Speaker 3: this the craziest movie ever made. It's literally, we actually
39:36
Speaker 3: believed that we could do something like that. And so
39:41
Speaker 3: it gets complicated because then How do you define failure?
39:46
Speaker 3: It came out, Roger Ebert, and it wasn't Siskel. It
39:52
Speaker 3: was the other guy. He had another guy there.
39:54
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, the second string.
39:55
Speaker 3: Ebert and Roper.
39:55
Speaker 2: Ebert and Roper, they sent that guy in.
39:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, even he didn't like it.
39:59
Speaker 4: He didn't?
39:59
Speaker 3: Even Roper didn't like it. I mean, it wasn't even Siskel.
40:02
Speaker 3: It was Roper, whoever that guy was. But anyways, they
40:05
Speaker 3: trashed it. And you're kind of thinking at the time, man,
40:08
Speaker 3: this is devastating. Ebert and Roper are trashing my film.
40:11
Speaker 3: But- And you think, oh, you start to question, you know,
40:16
Speaker 3: every sort of choice you've made, you know?
40:18
Speaker 2: I don't know.
40:19
Speaker 1: This guy looks like he also likes canned sardines at
40:21
Speaker 1: the same time. And these days, nobody even trusts the
40:25
Speaker 1: critics anyway. So it's kind of funny now that it's like.
40:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
40:28
Speaker 3: At the time, like, it was the end of, you know,
40:32
Speaker 3: the line if these guys trashed your movie.
40:34
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
40:35
Speaker 3: It's like my first movie and all the stuff riding
40:38
Speaker 3: on it. And then these kind of just destroyed it.
40:40
Speaker 3: And I remember just sitting there like watching this, just thinking,
40:43
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is it. You know, this is
40:45
Speaker 3: the end. But, you know, it wasn't, you know, I
40:47
Speaker 3: just kept going, kept doing my thing. And you look
40:50
Speaker 3: back at it and go, it's kind of funny now
40:51
Speaker 3: that they didn't like it, you know?
40:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of awesome that they didn't.
40:55
Speaker 3: It's weird because there's a weird sort of counterintuitiveness to
40:58
Speaker 3: it because we set out to make a movie that
41:01
Speaker 3: those guys would not like. And then when they don't
41:03
Speaker 3: like it, you're upset about it.
41:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
41:05
Speaker 3: It's like I kind of thought that they would sort
41:07
Speaker 3: of see the irony and go, I know we're not
41:09
Speaker 3: supposed to like this, but actually this kid's pretty clever.
41:12
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
41:13
Speaker 3: They didn't say that.
41:15
Speaker 2: What was the budget on that movie? Do you remember?
41:18
Speaker 3: $ 14 million. Wow. They spent on that. Plus an additional
41:21
Speaker 3: 10 on promotion and advertising and stuff. And you know what?
41:25
Speaker 3: I will say it made it all back on DVD.
41:28
Speaker 3: Remember DVD?
41:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.
41:29
Speaker 3: Remember they used to put DVDs out? So I think
41:31
Speaker 3: I heard it made $ 35 million on DVD. So it
41:34
Speaker 3: actually was a profitable movie. Made $ 14 million at the
41:37
Speaker 3: box office. I'm here defending it now. It made its
41:40
Speaker 3: money back. It made its money back. No, but it did.
41:42
Speaker 3: So it did make its money back. But Ebert and
41:46
Speaker 3: Roper aren't going to tell you that, though. They're not
41:48
Speaker 3: going to tell you that.
41:49
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't the Titanic, you know?
41:50
Speaker 3: No, no, exactly.
41:51
Speaker 2: It was.
41:52
Speaker 3: I mean, it was in a way, but in the
41:55
Speaker 3: sense that it bombed. But no, it was... It's funny
42:01
Speaker 3: though because there was a long period of time there
42:03
Speaker 3: where I was made to feel like it was a
42:06
Speaker 3: really bad decision and then in the last like 10
42:08
Speaker 3: years it's like you know all I hear are people
42:13
Speaker 3: saying they love it. Someone today showed me they had
42:16
Speaker 3: an x-ray cat tattoo you know like it's a character
42:19
Speaker 3: in the movie you know. So it's like it is
42:22
Speaker 3: a little confusing when you talk about sort of I
42:25
Speaker 3: mean your question was how do you handle things like
42:27
Speaker 3: failure and things like that. It's like you know, it's
42:30
Speaker 3: kind of the more of those kinds of things you
42:34
Speaker 3: go through, the more you kind of learn to kind
42:36
Speaker 3: of embrace it in a way. It's kind of, it's
42:38
Speaker 3: almost a good thing, you know?
42:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.
42:40
Speaker 1: David Spitt and I just wrote a movie together, not
42:43
Speaker 1: to name drop or anything, but we did, and we
42:45
Speaker 1: just funded ourselves and stuff. And so it's just kind
42:48
Speaker 1: of a scary time, I think. So that's why I'm
42:50
Speaker 1: asking that as well.
42:51
Speaker 2: Not scary.
42:52
Speaker 1: It's exciting too, but it's also like, yeah, I just,
42:55
Speaker 1: one day I'll be like, that's something I tried to do.
42:57
Speaker 1: I was trying to be creative and We tried our best,
43:00
Speaker 1: and I got to try it with somebody who I
43:03
Speaker 1: love to watch anyway.
43:05
Speaker 3: That's cool. So you've written it. Are you going to
43:06
Speaker 3: go make the movie with him?
43:07
Speaker 2: We have five days left shooting.
43:08
Speaker 3: Oh, you're shooting the movie already?
43:10
Speaker 2: We start back tomorrow.
43:11
Speaker 3: Kind of like a Joe Dirt 2, 3 kind of thing?
43:15
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's a good question. It's like two guys.
43:19
Speaker 1: One of them gets hit by a vehicle. My character
43:22
Speaker 1: gets hit by a car when he's young, and Spade.
43:26
Speaker 2: Rescues me.
43:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:28
Speaker 1: And he and I become friends then and he gets
43:30
Speaker 1: me a job years later. We're working together like at
43:33
Speaker 1: a sewage company.
43:34
Speaker 3: Oh, nice. Like a repo man kind of thing.
43:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, type of shit.
43:38
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the thing is that you're in good
43:40
Speaker 3: hands here because you're with a guy that's done this
43:43
Speaker 3: a lot before. Right, he's done it a lot. And
43:45
Speaker 3: it's sort of a season.
43:46
Speaker 1: If I had to direct it too, like I like
43:48
Speaker 1: to like chime in with the director and stuff like
43:50
Speaker 1: that and throw in ideas and stuff like that.
43:53
Speaker 2: But it's just definitely a big learning curve.
43:55
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
43:56
Speaker 2: So I can't imagine, especially in our budget, it's just
43:58
Speaker 2: a couple million bucks.
43:59
Speaker 3: So if it.
44:00
Speaker 2: Were really big, that'd be really, I feel like it'd
44:02
Speaker 2: be scary kind of.
44:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, back then we were shooting on film.
44:05
Speaker 3: Things cost more. It was, at the time, was considered
44:11
Speaker 3: a low budget movie, right? But I think that, I
44:17
Speaker 3: don't know, it just seems like the way things get
44:23
Speaker 3: released these days and the ways people embrace weirdness these days.
44:28
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's kind of a weird movie.
44:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just funny. It's just like old school funny.
44:34
Speaker 3: So like a funny movie, right? You have this incredible
44:39
Speaker 3: thing going with your show here, so you have your
44:41
Speaker 3: audience built in, so you don't really have to worry
44:44
Speaker 3: about the same things that maybe back in the day
44:48
Speaker 3: when you put out something crazy and sort of in
44:50
Speaker 3: a sea of somewhat normal movies coming out every weekend.
44:54
Speaker 3: All getting funneled through this sort of mainstream, you know,
44:58
Speaker 3: cinema release system.
45:00
Speaker 2: Right, this conglomerate, yeah.
45:01
Speaker 3: It's very strange, you know. Like, we had to take
45:04
Speaker 3: the movie and focus group it.
45:06
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
45:07
Speaker 3: And then people would sit there with pads. And it
45:09
Speaker 3: was in Phoenix. We flew down to Phoenix to focus
45:12
Speaker 3: group Freddy Got Fingered. That's where they do a lot
45:13
Speaker 3: of them, huh? Yeah, yeah. For some reason, they do
45:15
Speaker 3: them there in Phoenix. And, you know, and like, you know,
45:20
Speaker 3: then someone stands up after the movie and asks them
45:22
Speaker 3: what they didn't like about the movie. Well, with, you know,
45:24
Speaker 3: Freddy Got Fingered, I mean, we're sort of You're sort
45:27
Speaker 3: of supposed to not like any of these scenes. You're
45:29
Speaker 3: supposed to be kind of polarizing. So it didn't really
45:33
Speaker 3: kind of work with the focus group system. And then
45:36
Speaker 3: you had to make changes to it and all that
45:38
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But you probably, you guys probably have
45:41
Speaker 3: a lot more creative control over things.
45:43
Speaker 2: I think we'll just make a trailer and put it out.
45:45
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:45
Speaker 2: You know, I'm guessing. I have no idea. I'm just,
45:49
Speaker 2: part of my brain hasn't even gotten to that thought yet,
45:51
Speaker 2: you know.
45:52
Speaker 3: That's exciting.
45:53
Speaker 1: But it definitely feels kind of, yeah, it feels like
45:55
Speaker 1: just like, Well, I wanted to, you know, we tried
45:58
Speaker 1: to do it. Who knows what will happen, you know?
46:00
Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to be awesome.
46:01
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
46:02
Speaker 3: You and Spade, I'm going to go see that. That's incredible.
46:04
Speaker 2: Well, thanks. I appreciate it, man.
46:05
Speaker 3: Everybody will. Everybody's going to love that.
46:07
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting.
46:08
Speaker 3: Yeah.
46:08
Speaker 1: That's what I'll say. That's what I do. Yeah, I
46:11
Speaker 1: do believe that it'll be interesting. Of course it will.
46:14
Speaker 1: How did you deal, whenever there were tough times, like,
46:17
Speaker 1: because you had so much of like recording yourself, like setting,
46:20
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of like living under your own
46:22
Speaker 1: recording schedule and stuff like that. Were there days off,
46:25
Speaker 1: like when you... would just have your show from home, right?
46:29
Speaker 1: Was there days where you would just like take off?
46:32
Speaker 1: What was that shoot schedule like when you were?
46:34
Speaker 3: When I was doing the web show at home? Well,
46:39
Speaker 3: I mean, it was, so there wasn't really sort of
46:44
Speaker 3: a podcasting yet. Wasn't really a thing really, right? So
46:50
Speaker 3: we built the studio and it would basically just stream
46:53
Speaker 3: to my website. I mean, there was no Instagram yet.
46:55
Speaker 3: YouTube had just started. Um, and people would come and
46:59
Speaker 3: watch it on the front page of, of tomgreen.com. And
47:03
Speaker 3: we actually had like a company in San Francisco that
47:06
Speaker 3: made like the, the video playback system, you know, so
47:09
Speaker 3: it was CDN content distribution network. It was basically, so
47:13
Speaker 3: we would upload a video to that. We, there was,
47:14
Speaker 3: we weren't uploading it to YouTube and linking it or
47:17
Speaker 3: there was, there was no YouTube really. So, so it
47:20
Speaker 3: was kind of just a big sort of science experiment
47:25
Speaker 3: that I was doing with, uh, you know, my group
47:28
Speaker 3: of friends. And, you know, I had the sort of
47:37
Speaker 3: goal of trying to sort of make it a show
47:41
Speaker 3: that would become profitable, get advertisers and maybe sell it
47:45
Speaker 3: to television, which we did a little bit of that,
47:47
Speaker 3: you know. So, you know, I was kind of pretty driven,
47:52
Speaker 3: I guess. And it's kind of what I notice now
47:54
Speaker 3: with like, which is amazing is like, you know, the
47:59
Speaker 3: people that have these incredible businesses that they've got going,
48:02
Speaker 3: these incredible, you know, artistic visions they have for themselves.
48:06
Speaker 3: They're all kind of have that same kind of drive
48:08
Speaker 3: in them. You know, they get up in the morning,
48:10
Speaker 3: their mind is just like, how are we going to
48:13
Speaker 3: make this better today? And how are we going to
48:14
Speaker 3: make this awesome today?
48:15
Speaker 2: You know?
48:16
Speaker 3: So it was kind of, it was kind of like that,
48:18
Speaker 3: you know, we were getting up and turning on the
48:21
Speaker 3: studio every night and I did be inviting up, you know,
48:26
Speaker 3: rappers and too short came up and, you know, Jurassic
48:29
Speaker 3: five and exhibit. And then, you know, you wrap up comedian,
48:33
Speaker 3: invite comedians up and like Joe Rogan would come over and,
48:36
Speaker 3: you know, a Norm MacDonald who I became good friends with,
48:39
Speaker 3: you know, would start coming over all the time and,
48:42
Speaker 3: you know, literally like hundreds and hundreds of people would
48:45
Speaker 3: come over and it became this kind of really fun
48:48
Speaker 3: thing to do. Um, I wasn't doing standup at the time.
48:52
Speaker 3: I hadn't done standup in years. Um, So I was
48:55
Speaker 3: really just doing that. And it was ridiculous. I mean,
49:02
Speaker 3: we were just enjoying the absurdity of it.
49:05
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Was it so stressful?
49:07
Speaker 3: Or were you just... It was because I put pressure
49:10
Speaker 3: on myself and I would actually get stressed out about it.
49:12
Speaker 3: And then we would have people that would prank call us.
49:15
Speaker 3: So I had this phone system on the desk and
49:17
Speaker 3: you could just call it and it would ring and
49:19
Speaker 3: I'd hit answer and so we had like you know
49:22
Speaker 3: people trolling us basically i remember getting rickrolled for the
49:26
Speaker 3: first time you know that's like and it was like
49:27
Speaker 3: oh i've kind of felt like i don't know if
49:29
Speaker 3: i'd ever heard of rickrolling before i got rickrolled you
49:32
Speaker 3: know and um it's cool and it became kind of
49:35
Speaker 3: like a little bit of a game you know like
49:37
Speaker 3: where we were There was a switch that I'd built with, uh, uh,
49:43
Speaker 3: Bill Schnitzer was his name. He worked there and, uh, Victor,
49:45
Speaker 3: a couple of the guys that worked there. And, uh,
49:49
Speaker 3: we built the switch under the desk. It was like metal.
49:53
Speaker 3: And it was like, we got a metal box with
49:55
Speaker 3: a switch and we had wires and we soldered them together.
49:58
Speaker 3: And then the wires ran out to the computer. And
50:01
Speaker 3: then Bill was able to program the computer so that
50:05
Speaker 3: when like I flipped that switch. It would, like if
50:09
Speaker 3: everything was off, it's the middle of the night in
50:12
Speaker 3: my house. It's quiet night, nobody there. And if I
50:17
Speaker 3: were to get up at one o'clock in the morning
50:19
Speaker 3: by myself and put clown makeup on, which I often did,
50:24
Speaker 3: and a top hat and walk out into my living
50:26
Speaker 3: room and flick the switch, the switch would turn on
50:29
Speaker 3: the lights, would turn on the cameras, would turn on
50:31
Speaker 3: the computers. This computer would tell this computer to start recording.
50:36
Speaker 3: The phone system would turn on. It would send it
50:39
Speaker 3: to the front page of my website. Just one switch.
50:41
Speaker 3: I haven't done anything. All I've done is put on
50:43
Speaker 3: some clown makeup and flipped a switch, right? You don't
50:45
Speaker 3: have to put on the clown makeup, but I did
50:47
Speaker 3: do that often.
50:47
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you better.
50:48
Speaker 3: It was called the French clown of midnight. I'd speak
50:50
Speaker 3: in French in clown makeup. And you wonder why it
50:53
Speaker 3: didn't work out. But then the phone would start ringing,
50:57
Speaker 3: and I'd just be doing the show. I'd have a
50:59
Speaker 3: switcher on the desk so I could switch the cameras,
51:01
Speaker 3: and I would just start taking calls. And it was
51:05
Speaker 3: really the only live video– On the internet. Like really,
51:09
Speaker 3: like that's, there was no Instagram live or anything. So
51:11
Speaker 3: it was like, you imagine when I was a kid,
51:15
Speaker 3: I wanted to do, I like prank calling the radio station.
51:17
Speaker 3: I'd like to call into the radio station and, uh,
51:21
Speaker 3: I would call into the radio station and I'd record it.
51:24
Speaker 3: And then I'd call into the radio station. I'd pretend
51:26
Speaker 3: I was like my friend's father and I'd call and
51:29
Speaker 3: I'd start complaining about my son and I'd use his
51:31
Speaker 3: name and I'd play the tape back to him. And
51:32
Speaker 3: it was hilarious to me, you know? And, um, So
51:36
Speaker 3: I loved that like pranking a radio station and I
51:41
Speaker 3: kind of started to realize like we're the only live
51:45
Speaker 3: show on the internet right now with a phone with
51:47
Speaker 3: no call screener. All these people like me around the
51:53
Speaker 3: world could now call in and prank me, you know.
51:56
Speaker 3: And so we kind of got into this little sort
51:58
Speaker 3: of war basically, you know, which was– Fun because I
52:04
Speaker 3: would get angry about it, but then also I kind
52:07
Speaker 3: of didn't have to turn the phone on.
52:09
Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
52:10
Speaker 3: You know? So it was really fun. And I got
52:14
Speaker 3: to meet a lot of great people. I mean, that's
52:17
Speaker 3: where I really got to hang out with Joe Rogan
52:20
Speaker 3: for the first time, really, and Norm, who I became
52:24
Speaker 3: really close with, and so many other people. And it
52:28
Speaker 3: was amazing.
52:30
Speaker 2: Did Norm, did you talk to him much in the
52:32
Speaker 2: later years?
52:34
Speaker 3: Well, at the very end, I did not know that
52:37
Speaker 3: he was sick. I didn't know he was sick.
52:38
Speaker 2: So that was– It seemed like he kept that from everybody. Yeah.
52:42
Speaker 3: And he's from my hometown. He's from Ottawa, Canada. And
52:45
Speaker 3: he started at the same comedy club that I started
52:48
Speaker 3: at Yuck Yucks in Ottawa. Howard Wagman, who's the– still
52:52
Speaker 3: owns the comedy club in Ottawa, Yuck Yucks, which is
52:56
Speaker 3: like all across Canada. It's kind of like the improv
52:57
Speaker 3: of Canada.
52:58
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I've heard of it. I've been to one
52:59
Speaker 2: of them, I think.
53:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So he's awesome and he– He put Norm
53:05
Speaker 3: on the stage for the first time and tells a
53:08
Speaker 3: story about how Norm got off stage the very first
53:10
Speaker 3: time he did stand-up. He was in his 20s and
53:11
Speaker 3: he didn't think he did well and he was walking
53:14
Speaker 3: down the street. I'm never going to do that again.
53:15
Speaker 3: And Howard chased him down Spark Street in Ottawa and
53:18
Speaker 3: stopped and said, you've got to come back tomorrow. And
53:20
Speaker 3: he made him come back because he saw his genius, right?
53:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody was like him. They were just talking about him.
53:28
Speaker 1: I just watched the SNL monologue that he did one
53:31
Speaker 1: time that was pretty great where he's like, they fired
53:34
Speaker 1: me from the show, but now they want me back,
53:36
Speaker 1: you know, which is, and how it just didn't even
53:39
Speaker 1: make any, make any sense. And you just kind of
53:41
Speaker 1: shit on the show.
53:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, it was weird. Like, cause like, it's weird.
53:47
Speaker 3: Like I find myself sometimes now talking about 2005, like
53:51
Speaker 3: it was like 50 years ago or something like that,
53:54
Speaker 3: but it really is. Things have changed so much in
53:57
Speaker 3: the last 20 years with social media that it does
54:01
Speaker 3: really feel like kind of a different, world. Like I
54:04
Speaker 3: remember Norm would come up. Yeah. And you know, the
54:07
Speaker 3: first time he came up, I just couldn't believe I
54:09
Speaker 3: was going to hang out with them, you know, and
54:11
Speaker 3: hang out with them for two hours on camera, um,
54:16
Speaker 3: sort of in some ways kind of doing a make
54:19
Speaker 3: believe talk show, even though there were people watching, it
54:21
Speaker 3: was kind of like, you know, experimental talk show. And
54:26
Speaker 3: he was getting into that and then the show would
54:28
Speaker 3: end and we'd go, you know, on YouTube and and
54:32
Speaker 3: go look at videos. And I was like, I remember
54:35
Speaker 3: it was like YouTube was so new that it was
54:38
Speaker 3: just the strangest thing. I'd be sitting with Norm Macdonald
54:40
Speaker 3: after doing this for two hours. And we were sitting
54:42
Speaker 3: there watching, you know, crazy clips that he would find,
54:48
Speaker 3: you know, like baby versus Cobra, you know, with the
54:51
Speaker 3: Cobras mouth sewed together.
54:53
Speaker 2: Those are good.
54:53
Speaker 4: Yeah.
54:54
Speaker 3: Grape lady falls. I remember watching these videos with Norm
54:58
Speaker 3: and just, dying of laughter you know in the middle
55:01
Speaker 3: of the night just thinking this is this is cool
55:03
Speaker 3: now it's just so normal to look at viral videos
55:05
Speaker 3: and stuff but back then we thought we were just
55:07
Speaker 3: have you ever seen this video i've never seen oh
55:09
Speaker 3: man this is i mean it's a little bit you
55:11
Speaker 3: kind of can you play the audio too is it
55:13
Speaker 3: possible because the audio is sort of important for this one.
55:18
Speaker 1: And the winner this Saturday is Stump Music, eating international food,
55:23
Speaker 1: having wine tours and tasting, vineyard.
55:25
Speaker 2: Tours, seminars, arts and crafts.
55:28
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55:29
Speaker 2: Oh, God.
55:30
Speaker 3: Oof. .
55:33
Speaker 2: .
55:36
Speaker 4: .
55:45
Speaker 2: .
55:49
Speaker 3: So, yeah. Yeah.
55:51
Speaker 2: Ouch. Ouch.
55:52
Speaker 3: They're struggling not to laugh.
55:54
Speaker 1: And that lady has the smallest head as well. If
55:58
Speaker 1: people's heads are real small, they should not talk a lot.
56:02
Speaker 3: I love that. That's your takeaway for this, is her
56:05
Speaker 3: head size as well. It is true, though, by the way.
56:07
Speaker 3: I never noticed that.
56:08
Speaker 2: That lady has a very small head.
56:09
Speaker 1: When people with small heads talk a lot, it feels
56:11
Speaker 1: like they're cheating the system a little bit. I just
56:15
Speaker 1: feel like a regular head, you get a regular amount
56:17
Speaker 1: of words.
56:18
Speaker 2: Small head. Less words.
56:20
Speaker 3: Right.
56:21
Speaker 2: Don't do too much. Right.
56:23
Speaker 3: Or at least just talk in sort of the amount
56:27
Speaker 3: of words that your head should justify, your head size
56:30
Speaker 3: should justify.
56:30
Speaker 2: Yes. Don't be a crazy little head just doing a bunch.
56:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
56:34
Speaker 2: I dated a girl one time for a while with
56:36
Speaker 2: a small head, beautiful girl, great girl. Mm-hmm.
56:39
Speaker 1: But knew when to talk, when not to talk. You
56:42
Speaker 1: wouldn't see her just yammering on like some big head,
56:46
Speaker 1: you know?
56:47
Speaker 2: So I fucking.
56:49
Speaker 3: Did you notice right away that she had a particularly
56:51
Speaker 3: small head or was that something that sort of dawned
56:52
Speaker 3: on you later?
56:53
Speaker 2: She had big hair, big kind of Italian-ish hair. And
56:58
Speaker 2: every now and then I would feel her head and
56:59
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I feel like there should be
57:01
Speaker 2: a little more head here.
57:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So once you got under that, the
57:04
Speaker 3: hair was... Puffed out, probably purposefully. We probably knew that
57:07
Speaker 3: her head was small. It was an espionage. It was
57:09
Speaker 3: a mirage. Hiding it a little bit.
57:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'd see it.
57:12
Speaker 3: Probably a little self-conscious of it.
57:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, could have been. But yeah, cool girl, small head,
57:18
Speaker 2: but knew how to use it, right? Yeah. Not somebody
57:22
Speaker 2: that was ambivalent to their head size and is just
57:24
Speaker 2: running around just squawking at the moon every chance they get.
57:27
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
57:28
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58:56
Speaker 2: Did you, um... Yeah, what did I do? Oh, yeah,
58:59
Speaker 2: I just went to the SNL 50th.
59:01
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, I know. Was that incredible?
59:04
Speaker 2: It was cool. You got to host it.
59:05
Speaker 3: I did. I know. That's amazing. I was on tour.
59:07
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to go. I would have loved to
59:09
Speaker 3: have gone to that. That must have been wild. I
59:10
Speaker 3: went to the 40th. And I remember that was... That
59:14
Speaker 3: is just the most surreal thing. If it's anything, I
59:18
Speaker 3: imagine it was. Like, just everybody is there, right? Yeah.
59:22
Speaker 1: I'll get to go to the music night. And then
59:24
Speaker 1: I'm buddies with Louis C.K.
59:27
Speaker 2: He took me to.
59:29
Speaker 1: Chris Rock's birthday party on Saturday night, which was crazy
59:33
Speaker 1: because Chris Rock is always like my favorite comedian growing up.
59:35
Speaker 1: And so just to even be able to be there,
59:38
Speaker 1: I definitely felt like out of place or whatever, but
59:40
Speaker 1: it was also cool, you know, just to like, you know,
59:43
Speaker 1: kind of fly on the wall there.
59:44
Speaker 3: So did you do really actually feel out of place there?
59:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, a hundred percent.
59:47
Speaker 3: And why, why do you think that is?
59:49
Speaker 1: Just like, it feels like kind of fancy, you know,
59:52
Speaker 1: I mean, I could tell right when I saw Chris Rock,
59:54
Speaker 1: how I felt like, Some people you don't get nervous
59:56
Speaker 1: around them or you've seen them a couple times. And
59:58
Speaker 1: so there becomes a little bit of ambiance, you know.
1:00:01
Speaker 1: But I just didn't know him. And so, yeah, I
1:00:05
Speaker 1: think that created some of the nervous energy. Some other
1:00:08
Speaker 1: people I did know. So it wasn't that bad. But
1:00:11
Speaker 1: I got introduced to people that I didn't know. And
1:00:14
Speaker 1: so you're always like, I don't know, always– I don't
1:00:17
Speaker 1: usually say a lot then. I'll kind of just be
1:00:20
Speaker 1: a listener.
1:00:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:00:21
Speaker 2: You know?
1:00:21
Speaker 3: See, I get like that too. And I wish I didn't.
1:00:24
Speaker 3: This sort of social anxiety when you're in an environment
1:00:27
Speaker 3: like that where there's just all these people that you
1:00:30
Speaker 3: admire and respect and are around you and everybody... I
1:00:35
Speaker 3: kind of don't even feel like myself. It's a sort
1:00:37
Speaker 3: of a very stressful thing for me.
1:00:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:00:39
Speaker 3: So in some ways, I was kind of.
1:00:40
Speaker 2: That's a good word. It's stressful.
1:00:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know why that is. Why
1:00:44
Speaker 3: is that?
1:00:45
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because you're a little bit probably,
1:00:47
Speaker 1: I don't know how I fit in this circle. There's
1:00:50
Speaker 1: a lot of circles in the world where I get it.
1:00:51
Speaker 3: But you're on top of the world right now. You
1:00:53
Speaker 3: just interviewed the president of the United States. I mean, everybody,
1:00:56
Speaker 3: you've got this incredible show. I mean, I'm sure everybody
1:00:59
Speaker 3: was super excited to see you there. So you probably
1:01:01
Speaker 3: don't really have any reason to feel nervous, but you
1:01:03
Speaker 3: still do, right? Yeah.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
1:01:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't know. I hadn't been in that
1:01:08
Speaker 1: circle before. It's kind of like, I guess, when you're
1:01:10
Speaker 1: in a, I don't know, when you're in, Just feel
1:01:13
Speaker 1: like you're in a new water. You're figuring out the temperature.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: You don't know, you know, you don't want to make
1:01:18
Speaker 1: a lot of noise at somebody's birthday party. They are
1:01:21
Speaker 1: seeing friends that they know. It's not a huge group
1:01:23
Speaker 1: of people. So you just want to kind of, you know,
1:01:27
Speaker 1: you don't want to overstay your welcome, you know, kind
1:01:29
Speaker 1: of type of energy, you know. I don't need to
1:01:32
Speaker 1: tell a big story. They know each other. I'm just
1:01:35
Speaker 1: happy to be here. Happy to be able to see
1:01:38
Speaker 1: somebody celebrate their birthday, to witness something. people that I
1:01:41
Speaker 1: admire from a little bit of a way, you know,
1:01:43
Speaker 1: from a little closer than I'm usually allowed to get
1:01:45
Speaker 1: to them, you know, online or on TV, I guess.
1:01:49
Speaker 2: But the SNL thing was, we went to the music,
1:01:52
Speaker 2: they had a music show.
1:01:54
Speaker 3: Radio City.
1:01:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:01:55
Speaker 1: And that's the part that I got to go to.
1:01:56
Speaker 1: And that was pretty cool. Just seeing different bands, Jelly
1:01:59
Speaker 1: Roll performed. And so I know him.
1:02:01
Speaker 3: Nice.
1:02:02
Speaker 2: And so there was, yeah, and I got to bring
1:02:04
Speaker 2: a friend.
1:02:05
Speaker 1: And so I knew my buddy was, you know, we
1:02:07
Speaker 1: were just kind of, milling around, running into some people
1:02:09
Speaker 1: that we knew and meeting some new people, but it
1:02:11
Speaker 1: was pretty chill.
1:02:12
Speaker 3: So when you went to the, you went to the
1:02:13
Speaker 3: inauguration too, right?
1:02:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to the inauguration.
1:02:15
Speaker 3: Yeah. So like when you go to the inauguration and
1:02:18
Speaker 3: you've already, now, you know, the president of the United States,
1:02:21
Speaker 3: cause you'd had this interview with him.
1:02:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:02:24
Speaker 3: Like you could kind of hang out with him at
1:02:26
Speaker 3: the inauguration or?
1:02:27
Speaker 2: No, no, I didn't see any of them.
1:02:29
Speaker 1: I was in like the second tier of humans there
1:02:32
Speaker 1: or something, you know, like there was a first tier
1:02:35
Speaker 1: of And then I was in a second tier of
1:02:38
Speaker 1: humans that were there.
1:02:39
Speaker 3: But that's got to be kind of still interesting nonetheless
1:02:43
Speaker 3: to be there.
1:02:43
Speaker 1: Oh, it was interesting, very interesting. Because you don't even
1:02:45
Speaker 1: know if the process is real. You see it on TV,
1:02:48
Speaker 1: but it's like, who knows if that shit's real? Who
1:02:50
Speaker 1: knows what's real anymore? So to witness that was pretty cool.
1:02:54
Speaker 1: Just to be in Washington, D.C. is always pretty neat
1:02:57
Speaker 1: with all the architecture. But I don't know Trump like that.
1:03:02
Speaker 1: I'll message with his daughter sometimes, Ivanka. So I'm able
1:03:05
Speaker 1: to communicate.
1:03:06
Speaker 2: With her and then.
1:03:07
Speaker 1: What do you guys talk about? She'll just send me
1:03:09
Speaker 1: a book that she thinks I would like.
1:03:11
Speaker 4: Really?
1:03:11
Speaker 2: When we went to dinner one time, she's so smart.
1:03:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
1:03:14
Speaker 2: It's mind blowing.
1:03:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:03:17
Speaker 2: And so.
1:03:18
Speaker 3: Go to dinner with her a lot or?
1:03:20
Speaker 2: No, I only went one time. That's pretty cool.
1:03:22
Speaker 3: Was, was her husband Jared there or was it just
1:03:24
Speaker 3: you two?
1:03:24
Speaker 2: He wasn't. It was other friends of hers. Okay.
1:03:28
Speaker 3: Not trying to break any news here, but it sounds interesting.
1:03:30
Speaker 3: Not at all.
1:03:31
Speaker 2: I wish there were news to break, dude. She's stunning.
1:03:33
Speaker 2: She's awesome.
1:03:34
Speaker 1: And then there's like a middleman, like who worked with the,
1:03:38
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess he worked with the Republican party
1:03:41
Speaker 1: and he got to invite some people.
1:03:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:03:44
Speaker 2: So it was just a motley group of strange people that, uh,
1:03:47
Speaker 2: went to the inauguration.
1:03:48
Speaker 3: So how did that work? So can I ask you
1:03:50
Speaker 3: a question, sir?
1:03:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure.
1:03:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when he came on your show, right? It
1:03:54
Speaker 3: was right before the election and he was doing a
1:03:56
Speaker 3: lot of podcasts and stuff. Did they approach you or
1:03:59
Speaker 3: did they call you? His son is a fan of
1:04:02
Speaker 3: your show, right? Is that what it is?
1:04:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said. He said Baron was a
1:04:04
Speaker 2: fan of the show and I tried to get to
1:04:05
Speaker 2: see Baron, but I didn't get to meet him.
1:04:07
Speaker 3: So you just got a call one day and Trump
1:04:09
Speaker 3: wanted to come on the show and.
1:04:10
Speaker 2: Well, I'd seen, I'd met Trump a couple of times
1:04:13
Speaker 2: at UFC.
1:04:14
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:04:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:04:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:04:15
Speaker 1: UFC I think is, had everything to do with winning
1:04:19
Speaker 1: the election.
1:04:20
Speaker 2: Probably for, for the Republicans. Yeah. Yeah.
1:04:23
Speaker 1: Because Dana White is just such a, um, facilitator. He
1:04:28
Speaker 1: just gets things done. He kept his sport going while
1:04:31
Speaker 1: all the other sports were shut down. A lot of
1:04:33
Speaker 1: them were shut down or, uh, having to practice really
1:04:36
Speaker 1: intense methods during COVID, you know, he was able to
1:04:38
Speaker 1: keep his sport going like, um, and so he would,
1:04:42
Speaker 1: he brought Trump to a lot of his events cause
1:04:43
Speaker 1: they've been friends for a long time. And so I'd
1:04:46
Speaker 1: met him there a couple of times. And then I
1:04:48
Speaker 1: knew his brother died of alcoholism. So I was like, well,
1:04:50
Speaker 1: let me call him and let me ask Dana if,
1:04:54
Speaker 1: if Trump would ever talk about his brother. I didn't
1:04:56
Speaker 1: know about it, you know, and just to see what
1:04:58
Speaker 1: he's like, like, is he just all a business guy?
1:05:00
Speaker 2: Does he think about other things?
1:05:02
Speaker 1: Cause when you're, you don't get a lot of, you
1:05:05
Speaker 1: don't hear a lot about his feelings, Trump's feelings. And
1:05:08
Speaker 1: if you do, he doesn't communicate it in a way
1:05:11
Speaker 1: where it's very emotional to people. I don't feel like, right.
1:05:15
Speaker 1: So I was just curious about that. So yeah, I
1:05:17
Speaker 1: called up Dana and he said, we'll make it happen.
1:05:19
Speaker 1: You know, and then two days later he called back
1:05:21
Speaker 1: and he said, All good. Somebody from his group is
1:05:23
Speaker 1: going to reach out to you.
1:05:24
Speaker 3: And you went to him, right?
1:05:26
Speaker 1: And we went to him up in New Jersey, yeah.
1:05:28
Speaker 1: And we would have loved to have had Harris and
1:05:31
Speaker 1: Walls on. We're still trying to get Walls on. We
1:05:33
Speaker 1: tried to get Harris on even after the election, but
1:05:35
Speaker 1: they just didn't want to come.
1:05:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so it was kind of a bummer, you know,
1:05:38
Speaker 2: because I think.
1:05:39
Speaker 3: It seems like that was a pretty big mistake. They
1:05:41
Speaker 3: didn't go on a lot of the shows.
1:05:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would just let them be more normal.
1:05:47
Speaker 1: I think people are– if something is too much behind
1:05:49
Speaker 1: the glass these days, people don't trust the glass. I
1:05:51
Speaker 1: don't even think that they don't trust the person behind
1:05:54
Speaker 1: the glass. I think they just don't trust the fucking
1:05:56
Speaker 1: glass if that makes any sense. Yeah.
1:05:59
Speaker 3: No, it does.
1:06:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess that was all kind of interesting.
1:06:02
Speaker 1: I'm kind of out of sorts with the way that
1:06:04
Speaker 1: they're handling, like, the Gaza-Palestine stuff. Like, that shit really,
1:06:07
Speaker 1: I think, is insane to me. You know, but that's just,
1:06:11
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't know. That's just my thoughts.
1:06:16
Speaker 3: It's kind of an endless sort of, you know, quagmire
1:06:22
Speaker 3: you can find yourself in once you start talking politics.
1:06:26
Speaker 2: I agree.
1:06:26
Speaker 3: In this world we're living in now because it's like,
1:06:29
Speaker 3: you know, you go on the road, you do stand
1:06:31
Speaker 3: up all around the country and, you know, everybody's sort
1:06:36
Speaker 3: of divided in a way.
1:06:38
Speaker 2: Right.
1:06:38
Speaker 3: And then you start sort of firmly choosing a side
1:06:41
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden half the audience doesn't want
1:06:43
Speaker 3: to have any fun anymore.
1:06:45
Speaker 2: Right.
1:06:45
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like you got to be fine.
1:06:47
Speaker 3: We got to make these choices now, like, okay, well,
1:06:50
Speaker 3: do I, do I want to give my opinion anymore
1:06:53
Speaker 3: about what's going on in the world? Uh, you know,
1:06:56
Speaker 3: and then, you know, you have to choose one of
1:06:59
Speaker 3: the set of opinions that are on this side or
1:07:02
Speaker 3: the set of opinions that are all evenly and neatly
1:07:05
Speaker 3: put on this side. And as soon as you state
1:07:07
Speaker 3: your opinion about one of these issues that just happens
1:07:10
Speaker 3: to be on this side, then anybody that doesn't agree
1:07:12
Speaker 3: with you no longer wants to fuck with you and
1:07:16
Speaker 3: come to your show or have a good time or
1:07:18
Speaker 3: have a laugh with you. So it's just such a
1:07:19
Speaker 3: shitty thing to have to deal with that, right? So
1:07:22
Speaker 3: how do you kind of like juggle that? Because as
1:07:26
Speaker 3: a Canadian, it's like right now in Canada, people are
1:07:29
Speaker 3: pretty upset with Donald Trump because he's putting these tariffs
1:07:33
Speaker 3: on Canada, right? And saying they're going to make us
1:07:36
Speaker 3: a 51st state.
1:07:37
Speaker 2: Saying they're going to annex Canada.
1:07:38
Speaker 3: People aren't too happy about the idea of being taken
1:07:42
Speaker 3: over by the United States of America, doesn't it? It's
1:07:44
Speaker 3: not something that people are super excited about hearing, you know? So,
1:07:48
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of, you kind of go, it's
1:07:50
Speaker 3: funny because I, sometimes I think like, well, I think
1:07:52
Speaker 3: a lot of Americans who aren't, don't think about it
1:07:55
Speaker 3: that much might think like, oh, Canada is going to
1:07:59
Speaker 3: be the 51st state. I bet you everyone in Canada
1:08:02
Speaker 3: must be really excited about being the 51st state of
1:08:05
Speaker 3: the United States. But, you know, I'm kind of saying, well, no,
1:08:07
Speaker 3: it'll probably be the first state in America that nobody
1:08:10
Speaker 3: in it wants to be America, you know? So, uh, So, because,
1:08:13
Speaker 3: you know, we've got our own country. It's not that
1:08:15
Speaker 3: we don't love America. I love America, but we, you know,
1:08:18
Speaker 3: we sort of have our entire different culture. You know,
1:08:21
Speaker 3: you go to Canada all the time, right?
1:08:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. And I'm glad it's Canada.
1:08:24
Speaker 3: We're different, right? It's a different thing.
1:08:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different. You're nice to a.
1:08:29
Speaker 1: you know, people will be, somebody will walk across the
1:08:32
Speaker 1: street in Canada and just come tell you they're sorry
1:08:34
Speaker 1: and then go back across the street and then nothing
1:08:36
Speaker 1: even happened.
1:08:36
Speaker 2: They're not even.
1:08:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just came off just to apologize.
1:08:39
Speaker 1: There's no even, you've never seen them before, you know?
1:08:43
Speaker 1: But it's, Canada's the best. I think Canada gives me
1:08:46
Speaker 1: hope for humanity a lot of times. It's good people,
1:08:50
Speaker 1: you know? Like, I love Canada. I wish that, there's
1:08:55
Speaker 1: times I've wanted to be Canadian even.
1:08:58
Speaker 3: What's, do you remember the first time you went to Canada?
1:09:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vancouver. Yeah, and was that somewhat recently? And I
1:09:04
Speaker 2: slept at a brothel or a hostel. I slept at
1:09:06
Speaker 2: a hostel.
1:09:06
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. How many years ago would that have been?
1:09:09
Speaker 2: That was probably 15, 18 years ago, 17 years ago.
1:09:12
Speaker 2: And it was great, man. Had a great time.
1:09:14
Speaker 3: Were you doing stand-up there?
1:09:15
Speaker 1: I hadn't started. I just almost started stand-up. I was doing,
1:09:18
Speaker 1: I was traveling. I was left out of there on
1:09:20
Speaker 1: a school, floating university. I left out of Vancouver called
1:09:23
Speaker 1: Semester at Sea.
1:09:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:24
Speaker 1: And it went around the globe and we left out
1:09:26
Speaker 1: of Vancouver. But I went up to Whistler. I went
1:09:29
Speaker 1: and caught a ride. Some guy took me hitchhiking up
1:09:31
Speaker 1: to Whistler, right? Drove me up there. And the dude,
1:09:35
Speaker 1: the guy who drove me, He was a caretaker for
1:09:39
Speaker 1: Superman who had died.
1:09:40
Speaker 2: Remember Superman who got in the wheelchair?
1:09:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, Christopher Reeves.
1:09:43
Speaker 2: Christopher Reeves. He was his caretaker. Okay, okay.
1:09:45
Speaker 1: This guy Michael. And I think I met him. I
1:09:49
Speaker 1: was at some shop right around there. And he was
1:09:54
Speaker 1: saying he was in the area or something. He's like,
1:09:56
Speaker 1: I'm taking the drive up to Whistler. I was like,
1:09:57
Speaker 1: can I roll with you?
1:09:58
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah. So he took me up to Whistler, man,
1:10:00
Speaker 2: brought me back. We stopped along the way, went on
1:10:02
Speaker 2: some hikes and stuff.
1:10:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:10:03
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
1:10:04
Speaker 1: But I've always enjoyed Canada. I used to have a
1:10:07
Speaker 1: dream that I would meet a wife in Toronto.
1:10:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:10:10
Speaker 2: But I went and did two weeks of comedy up there,
1:10:12
Speaker 2: didn't meet anyone.
1:10:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
1:10:14
Speaker 3: Well, it could still happen for sure.
1:10:15
Speaker 2: It could still happen. Yeah.
1:10:17
Speaker 3: Do you find the audiences react differently? They're great.
1:10:20
Speaker 2: Halifax was one of my favorite shows I've ever had
1:10:22
Speaker 2: in my life.
1:10:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
1:10:23
Speaker 1: Dude, I even made– my little nephew made up this joke.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: He said– Oh, I told it on stage. I was like, yeah,
1:10:33
Speaker 1: I heard one time that there wasn't any more fish
1:10:35
Speaker 1: up here. And so they changed the name to No
1:10:38
Speaker 1: Fish Scotia. nobody laughed, right? It was fucking fun.
1:10:46
Speaker 3: That's why I'm laughing. Cause I can imagine the reaction.
1:10:50
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's something great when they don't laugh.
1:10:52
Speaker 3: No, sure.
1:10:53
Speaker 2: There's some little thing in there. It's like, Oh, that's
1:10:55
Speaker 2: pretty good.
1:10:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
1:10:57
Speaker 1: You know, but, uh, but yeah, always had a great
1:10:59
Speaker 1: love for Canada. I think it's bizarre that Trump would
1:11:03
Speaker 1: say something like that.
1:11:04
Speaker 2: And it's also like, it just, but what do you
1:11:07
Speaker 2: expect out of him?
1:11:08
Speaker 3: You know?
1:11:09
Speaker 1: And what do you expect about the media to spotlight
1:11:11
Speaker 1: things and make it Whatever it is, even if it's
1:11:14
Speaker 1: a seed of something to grow it into a million plants,
1:11:16
Speaker 1: you know?
1:11:17
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's interesting. I think, you know, there's a
1:11:21
Speaker 3: thing that's going on, the hockey games in Canada now
1:11:23
Speaker 3: where the USA and Canada are playing and, you know.
1:11:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, the four nations, right?
1:11:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Canadian fans were booing at the anthem, right?
1:11:30
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I go like, well, I don't... You know,
1:11:32
Speaker 3: based on the reaction on social media, I sort of
1:11:34
Speaker 3: feel like maybe... not everybody in the U.S. necessarily understands
1:11:39
Speaker 3: why that's happening. You know, they don't know it's about
1:11:41
Speaker 3: the tariffs. You know, they're not booing the national anthem.
1:11:44
Speaker 3: They're booing this, the fact that these tariffs are being
1:11:47
Speaker 3: put on, you know, which is going to, of course, devastate,
1:11:50
Speaker 3: you know, the economy on both sides will suffer from that, right?
1:11:53
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here like talking about it like I know
1:11:55
Speaker 3: about it, you know?
1:11:56
Speaker 2: I should probably know more about it.
1:11:57
Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, I think people are just
1:12:00
Speaker 3: kind of like, why are you guys doing this to us,
1:12:03
Speaker 3: you know? So it's kind of an interesting thing. But
1:12:06
Speaker 3: You want to talk about issues sometimes and then you go, okay,
1:12:10
Speaker 3: I've just waded into this sort of hornet's nest and
1:12:14
Speaker 3: I'm never going to hear the end of it. So
1:12:15
Speaker 3: it is interesting. What was it when you're at the inauguration,
1:12:20
Speaker 3: after the inauguration, where you're like kind of just– who
1:12:25
Speaker 3: are you hanging out with there?
1:12:27
Speaker 1: I went– who did I meet? I met this kid,
1:12:29
Speaker 1: Alexander Wang. We just had a podcast episode with him.
1:12:31
Speaker 1: He created this company called Scale AI. He's like this
1:12:35
Speaker 1: AI– He's the youngest billionaire ever, this Chinese kid.
1:12:39
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
1:12:40
Speaker 2: From New Mexico.
1:12:41
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:12:42
Speaker 2: Fascinating dude.
1:12:44
Speaker 3: Self-made billionaire.
1:12:45
Speaker 2: Self-made billionaire.
1:12:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:12:46
Speaker 1: So I ended up having lunch with him. That was
1:12:48
Speaker 1: probably the neatest thing that happened that weekend.
1:12:50
Speaker 3: Did he pick up the tab?
1:12:52
Speaker 2: I think I paid, actually.
1:12:53
Speaker 3: You paid?
1:12:53
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was a billionaire.
1:12:55
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, yeah. That's why he's a billionaire. He's
1:12:58
Speaker 3: letting everyone else pick up the tab.
1:12:59
Speaker 2: I was just happy to be dining with the Chinese,
1:13:02
Speaker 2: you know? Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. And, oh, it was great, man.
1:13:06
Speaker 1: And then who else? Something else happened at night. Oh,
1:13:09
Speaker 1: I saw Wayne Gretzky lost his tooth.
1:13:10
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:13:11
Speaker 2: And then anything.
1:13:13
Speaker 1: I saw Joe Rogan for a few minutes. I saw
1:13:16
Speaker 1: Tony Hinchcliffe from Kill Tony.
1:13:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And then that was kind of it. And
1:13:19
Speaker 2: then I went home. It was too much, like too
1:13:21
Speaker 2: hard to get around. Mm-hmm. I saw Lex Friedman. That
1:13:24
Speaker 2: was pretty neat. I'd never met him. He's a podcaster.
1:13:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've met him at the Mothership before.
1:13:28
Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
1:13:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
1:13:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was just– that was kind of– those
1:13:31
Speaker 2: were some of the neat parts of it.
1:13:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
1:13:33
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
1:13:33
Speaker 2: Just getting to see some different folks.
1:13:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:13:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're having issues.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: Even in America, they're having– I just saw that there's
1:13:39
Speaker 1: a part of Oregon that wanted to secede from Oregon.
1:13:43
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:13:44
Speaker 3: They're going to become Canada's 11th province. Yeah, good.
1:13:48
Speaker 1: I would love it if we started trading pieces of
1:13:51
Speaker 1: our- Start trading. Now that I'm totally for.
1:13:53
Speaker 3: New York and California, come join Canada and- Take one
1:13:56
Speaker 3: of them. You guys can take, I'm not going to
1:13:59
Speaker 3: say who you guys can take, but because we- No, I.
1:14:02
Speaker 2: Know who you're talking about, dude.
1:14:03
Speaker 3: I've got to be political.
1:14:04
Speaker 2: Sacre bleu.
1:14:05
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:14:06
Speaker 2: That's all I'll say, brother.
1:14:08
Speaker 3: No, no, just be in Quebec, actually. Je parle français.
1:14:10
Speaker 3: I lived in Quebec a lot in my life.
1:14:12
Speaker 2: You did?
1:14:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I grew up in Quebec, so I love Quebec, yeah.
1:14:15
Speaker 3: You must have been up to the Montreal Festival over
1:14:17
Speaker 3: the years.
1:14:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went there a couple times.
1:14:20
Speaker 3: I love Quebec.
1:14:20
Speaker 2: It's fun.
1:14:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, Edmonton. We got some other places we want to
1:14:24
Speaker 1: go to. Calgary and Ottawa and Winnipeg we're going to
1:14:26
Speaker 1: go to this year.
1:14:27
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
1:14:27
Speaker 3: So when you're in Ottawa... Maybe if you're rolling past
1:14:30
Speaker 3: the farm and the tour bus, come by the farm
1:14:33
Speaker 3: and we'll go ride some mules or something.
1:14:36
Speaker 2: How far outside of town are you guys?
1:14:37
Speaker 3: About like an hour or so.
1:14:39
Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.
1:14:40
Speaker 3: So sort of not too far, you know. I'll come
1:14:43
Speaker 3: pick you up in my pickup truck. We'll go hang out.
1:14:45
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll have a.
1:14:48
Speaker 1: Now that you're kind of feeling settled out there, do
1:14:50
Speaker 1: you start thinking about starting a family or no?
1:14:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I'm getting married, so knock on wood, everything
1:14:57
Speaker 3: goes well with that. And maybe there'll be some– we'll see.
1:15:02
Speaker 3: We'll have to ask my fiancée.
1:15:04
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
1:15:04
Speaker 3: I think she would want to do that.
1:15:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to include her.
1:15:10
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, for sure. No, I think that's a possibility
1:15:13
Speaker 3: for sure.
1:15:14
Speaker 2: For a while, did you think that that wasn't going
1:15:15
Speaker 2: to be a part of your life?
1:15:17
Speaker 3: I was starting to question whether or not it was
1:15:20
Speaker 3: going to be part of my life because, you know,
1:15:24
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you kind of alluded to this earlier.
1:15:27
Speaker 3: You know, you want to, you know, if you're going
1:15:32
Speaker 3: to get married, you want to get married to somebody
1:15:34
Speaker 3: that you, you know, love and actually think that this could,
1:15:39
Speaker 3: you know, last forever, right? I was starting to question
1:15:42
Speaker 3: whether or not that was maybe possible. You know, I
1:15:44
Speaker 3: wasn't sure if that was possible anymore to find somebody
1:15:47
Speaker 3: that I thought would last forever with. But, you know,
1:15:48
Speaker 3: when I met Amanda, she's outside. I hope I'm getting
1:15:51
Speaker 3: some brownie points here. But I realized this is the one,
1:15:54
Speaker 3: you know.
1:15:55
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:15:55
Speaker 3: So, but it's, you know, until you meet that person,
1:15:58
Speaker 3: you know, it does start to feel kind of like, geez,
1:16:01
Speaker 3: this is getting a little kind of, you know, uncertain here.
1:16:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm just watering.
1:16:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So, but.
1:16:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's how I think about it.
1:16:09
Speaker 1: Cause I think when you're younger, like you have this
1:16:11
Speaker 1: feeling of like this young love energy type of thing.
1:16:14
Speaker 1: And that starts to, it feels, that feels less possible
1:16:18
Speaker 1: the older we get kind of, you know, it just
1:16:19
Speaker 1: starts to dissipate or it's like, oh, well I just,
1:16:22
Speaker 1: I'm too wise now or I've had too much experience
1:16:26
Speaker 1: now that I'm never going to have that sort of
1:16:28
Speaker 1: like whimsical feeling of like, you know, that a 17
1:16:32
Speaker 1: year old or a 23 year old would have, you know?
1:16:35
Speaker 1: But it's nice to know that that can kind of,
1:16:38
Speaker 1: sneak up and surprise you, you know?
1:16:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:16:40
Speaker 3: I think kind of, I mean, I think being home
1:16:45
Speaker 3: where I'm from helped, you know, because it's like, I
1:16:49
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, if you're not from Los Angeles,
1:16:54
Speaker 3: then it's kind of a weird place. If you're from
1:16:55
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, it's normal. But if you're not from Los Angeles,
1:16:58
Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of a weird place. So, you know,
1:17:01
Speaker 3: you're here probably focused on your career and your work
1:17:07
Speaker 3: and so many other people are, it's kind of hard to,
1:17:09
Speaker 3: I think, find a good, I'm not saying it's impossible,
1:17:14
Speaker 3: but it seems like it is kind of harder in
1:17:16
Speaker 3: this environment to find somebody that you can, I mean,
1:17:19
Speaker 3: I don't know. Are people watching going, are we going
1:17:22
Speaker 3: to be taking relationship advice from me? I don't know.
1:17:25
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's.
1:17:27
Speaker 1: No, it does make me think that I think there's
1:17:29
Speaker 1: this feeling in LA that if you meet somebody, you're
1:17:30
Speaker 1: going to have to eventually get them to leave here, right?
1:17:34
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
1:17:35
Speaker 1: I've always felt that thing like, well, if I met somebody,
1:17:37
Speaker 1: would they ever leave here with me? Because I'm not
1:17:39
Speaker 1: going to stay here forever.
1:17:40
Speaker 2: Right.
1:17:41
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was trying to say.
1:17:42
Speaker 2: So that I think is a, yeah, I think that's
1:17:45
Speaker 2: totally common.
1:17:46
Speaker 3: But you said you don't live here full time now?
1:17:51
Speaker 2: I live in Tennessee. I moved during the pandemic too.
1:17:52
Speaker 3: In Nashville?
1:17:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:17:54
Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
1:17:54
Speaker 2: I moved during the pandemic. What was true?
1:17:56
Speaker 1: Whenever Trump was talking about Canada, what was, can you
1:17:57
Speaker 1: bring it up, Nick? I just want to know what
1:17:59
Speaker 1: he even was saying. Like, what were they threatening? They
1:18:02
Speaker 1: were threatening the tariff. Canadian goods, just so our listeners
1:18:06
Speaker 1: can know what exactly was even going on.
1:18:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:18:09
Speaker 3: They're going to put a tariff on everything. You know,
1:18:14
Speaker 3: Canada is the largest trading partner of the United States. Nice.
1:18:18
Speaker 3: And so much of the goods that come into the
1:18:21
Speaker 3: United States from Canada are being brought in by American
1:18:26
Speaker 3: businesses to, you know, like wood. You bring wood and
1:18:29
Speaker 3: lumber in to build houses, right? So when you put...
1:18:31
Speaker 3: 25% tariff on lumber.
1:18:33
Speaker 2: Flannel.
1:18:34
Speaker 3: Flannel. If you're a big flannel company making flannel pajamas,
1:18:38
Speaker 3: all of a sudden flannel pajamas are going to be
1:18:39
Speaker 3: 25% more expensive. So it's really going to affect businesses
1:18:44
Speaker 3: on both sides of the border, obviously, not just Canada,
1:18:47
Speaker 3: but also everything will go up in price. So– and
1:18:54
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure the reason for it to be
1:18:56
Speaker 3: honest with you. He was really saying they weren't helping
1:19:00
Speaker 3: out with border security. Yeah. And that's what the 30
1:19:04
Speaker 3: days– Probation period, they did put a bunch of people
1:19:07
Speaker 3: at the border. Absolutely. I don't think there's a real
1:19:11
Speaker 3: border security problem between Canada and the United States though.
1:19:14
Speaker 3: It's the hardest country to get into in the world
1:19:19
Speaker 3: I think is Canada. Yeah.
1:19:20
Speaker 2: I mean it's– Going that way there isn't. That's for sure.
1:19:24
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's– the claim that there's fentanyl coming into the
1:19:28
Speaker 3: United States from Canada I think is a little bit
1:19:30
Speaker 3: exaggerated because I don't really think that that's actually the case.
1:19:35
Speaker 3: Something like a very small amount is coming in from Canada.
1:19:40
Speaker 2: Tariffs are a central part of Trump's economic plans. He
1:19:42
Speaker 2: promised to introduce import duties against some of America's main
1:19:45
Speaker 2: trade partners during his election campaign. He said tariffs will
1:19:48
Speaker 2: boost U.S. manufacturing and protect jobs as well as raising
1:19:51
Speaker 2: tax revenue and growing the economy.
1:19:53
Speaker 1: Fentanyl is linked to tens of thousands of overdose deaths.
1:19:56
Speaker 1: Taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China responsible.
1:19:59
Speaker 1: accountable to their promise of halting illegal immigration and stopping
1:20:03
Speaker 1: poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.
1:20:05
Speaker 2: It just seems kind of vague.
1:20:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's sort of like a... But like,
1:20:11
Speaker 3: what would you do?
1:20:12
Speaker 1: Like, I'm trying to say, say if you bring a
1:20:14
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff into my country, right? Say if you
1:20:17
Speaker 1: and I live in different countries and you bring a
1:20:18
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff into my country or I bring a
1:20:20
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff into your country, and then you say, okay,
1:20:22
Speaker 1: I'm going to tax that more, I'm going to charge
1:20:24
Speaker 1: you more to bring that in, if you don't help
1:20:27
Speaker 1: stop the fentanyl that's coming in, I just, I don't know,
1:20:31
Speaker 1: how would you then do that? What would you then,
1:20:33
Speaker 1: on your side, would you say, okay, we'll put more, what,
1:20:35
Speaker 1: drug dogs and security along the border?
1:20:37
Speaker 3: I think that's what they're, I think that's what he's
1:20:38
Speaker 3: asking them to do. You know, and I think we
1:20:42
Speaker 3: already do have, again, I'm not, I know I'm not
1:20:46
Speaker 3: a representative of the Canadian government, but I do, I
1:20:48
Speaker 3: do think that we already do have a lot of
1:20:52
Speaker 3: There's only so much you can do to seal off
1:20:54
Speaker 3: a border, right? And I don't think there is that
1:20:56
Speaker 3: much fentanyl coming in from Canada, really.
1:20:58
Speaker 2: I'd never heard that that was a thing before.
1:21:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it mostly does come in from the
1:21:02
Speaker 3: southern border.
1:21:02
Speaker 2: That's what I would think.
1:21:04
Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe you guys got grandfathered into some
1:21:08
Speaker 1: late-night Trump rhetoric there.
1:21:09
Speaker 2: Who knows?
1:21:09
Speaker 3: It feels a little bit like that, but hopefully it'll
1:21:13
Speaker 3: resolve itself. I do think that it's probably going to
1:21:16
Speaker 3: end up causing a lot of economic problems on both
1:21:19
Speaker 3: sides of the border and probably– They may not go
1:21:23
Speaker 3: for it.
1:21:23
Speaker 2: It was sports exciting for a while, though.
1:21:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
1:21:27
Speaker 2: That's the side effect of it.
1:21:27
Speaker 3: It was a good fight right off the top of
1:21:29
Speaker 3: the game the other day. It was pretty cool. We
1:21:31
Speaker 3: like a good hockey fight, so that's cool.
1:21:33
Speaker 1: And it is nice when countries sometimes don't get along
1:21:35
Speaker 1: a little bit in sports, right?
1:21:37
Speaker 2: I've always admired that. Yeah.
1:21:39
Speaker 1: That's one thing I don't like about the NBA anymore.
1:21:41
Speaker 1: All the players, it just seems like they all know
1:21:42
Speaker 1: each other. Nobody's really playing for their squad sometimes.
1:21:45
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:21:45
Speaker 2: So I like a little bit more of that animosity.
1:21:47
Speaker 3: Even more fights in the NBA. Physical fights. Yeah, look
1:21:50
Speaker 3: at that.
1:21:51
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.
1:21:53
Speaker 3: I believe both those players are American, too. I'm not
1:21:55
Speaker 3: sure how quickly your researcher can tell us that. But
1:21:58
Speaker 3: even though the Canadian team....
1:22:02
Speaker 2: Canada didn't get the win in this game. I know that.
1:22:03
Speaker 3: Maybe that's not true at all, what I just said.
1:22:05
Speaker 2: I don't think Canada got the win in this game.
1:22:08
Speaker 2: But that's okay.
1:22:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, we lost the game, absolutely, which is really kind of...
1:22:13
Speaker 3: I know. But it is nice to see everybody having
1:22:15
Speaker 3: a good time watching a hockey fight, for sure.
1:22:17
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:22:18
Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, so.
1:22:20
Speaker 2: What else did I see in the news that I
1:22:21
Speaker 2: just saw was happening?
1:22:23
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
1:22:23
Speaker 1: It was that contraception begins at erection now.
1:22:28
Speaker 2: So there's a law that they're pushing.
1:22:30
Speaker 1: Ohio Democratic lawmakers propose conception begins at erection.
1:22:34
Speaker 2: So they're trying to put it on the men a
1:22:36
Speaker 2: little bit more.
1:22:37
Speaker 3: So what exactly are they going to do about this now?
1:22:40
Speaker 1: Well, a new bill in Ohio would make it a
1:22:42
Speaker 1: crime for men to ejaculate without intending to have a baby.
1:22:45
Speaker 3: Oh, wow. That's definitely something that I could see A
1:22:50
Speaker 3: lot of people probably would be guilty of for sure.
1:22:53
Speaker 2: Hey, shoot is shoot, you know? Yeah.
1:22:55
Speaker 3: Yeah. I could see that being, I mean, I don't
1:22:56
Speaker 3: want to get in too much personal detail, but I
1:22:58
Speaker 3: think I'd probably be locked up for a long time.
1:23:01
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah. Oh, we're going to visit Tom this weekend again.
1:23:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's behind bars.
1:23:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, my gosh.
1:23:09
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to get paroled.
1:23:10
Speaker 3: Plenty of time to break the law in jail, though.
1:23:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
1:23:15
Speaker 1: And they put a monitor like wraps around your wiener
1:23:18
Speaker 1: and it just like, it just goes off if it
1:23:22
Speaker 1: gets too hard.
1:23:22
Speaker 3: Now, I'm assuming this is a parody site, but the
1:23:24
Speaker 3: world's so crazy right now that I'm actually asking this
1:23:27
Speaker 3: for real. Is this a real article? This is a
1:23:29
Speaker 3: real article right there.
1:23:30
Speaker 2: Yep. Let's zoom in on. I'm going to read it
1:23:32
Speaker 2: a little bit.
1:23:33
Speaker 3: Okay. So this is not The Onion or something like
1:23:35
Speaker 3: that or Mad Magazine or something?
1:23:37
Speaker 2: No, this is one of those good radishes that they
1:23:40
Speaker 2: have out there.
1:23:40
Speaker 3: Conception– and it rhymes nicely too. Conception begins at erection act.
1:23:45
Speaker 3: I mean it's a nice rhyme to it, which is
1:23:47
Speaker 3: also nice.
1:23:48
Speaker 1: If you're going to penalize someone for an unwanted pregnancy,
1:23:50
Speaker 1: why not penalize the person who is also responsible for
1:23:53
Speaker 1: the pregnancy? Now, I can't say I don't agree with this.
1:23:56
Speaker 1: It's like then you're going to have a lot more people.
1:23:59
Speaker 2: $ 10, 000 per discharge.
1:24:01
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
1:24:05
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
1:24:06
Speaker 1: Some dudes are just running around, skeeting or whatever they
1:24:09
Speaker 1: call it, and I don't know what they call it
1:24:10
Speaker 1: in different countries, but they're not going to have an
1:24:13
Speaker 1: extra 10K on them. You're going to have– the court
1:24:15
Speaker 1: system would be filled with every kid in the world,
1:24:21
Speaker 1: every 14-year-old kid.
1:24:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:24:23
Speaker 3: I mean I'm assuming– I don't know how much I
1:24:26
Speaker 3: want to talk about this in detail with you.
1:24:28
Speaker 1: Look, I'm going to say you don't get pregnant on
1:24:30
Speaker 1: your own. Representative Anita Somani– Democrat Dublin said.
1:24:36
Speaker 3: A felony for men to discharge semen without the intent
1:24:41
Speaker 3: to fertilize. That is an amazing, amazing idea. I mean,
1:24:48
Speaker 3: I actually would love to see that sort of applied
1:24:51
Speaker 3: that law just to see what would happen. I mean,
1:24:53
Speaker 3: it would be interesting to see what would happen.
1:24:55
Speaker 2: It's genital communism in a way, I guess.
1:24:57
Speaker 3: It's genital communism.
1:24:59
Speaker 2: Is it?
1:25:00
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
1:25:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
1:25:01
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
1:25:02
Speaker 1: She introduced legislation that would make it a felony to
1:25:04
Speaker 1: discharge semen without the intent to fertilize. So, Monty and
1:25:06
Speaker 1: State Representative Tristan Rader joined forces to propose a bill
1:25:11
Speaker 1: nicknamed Conception Begins the Direction. There are some exceptions, such
1:25:14
Speaker 1: as when protection or contraception are used during sex. It
1:25:17
Speaker 1: also wouldn't apply when an individual is masturbating.
1:25:20
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Donating sperm.
1:25:22
Speaker 3: Lots of relief.
1:25:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:25:24
Speaker 1: Or if the intercourse has taken place between members of
1:25:26
Speaker 1: the LGBT plus community.
1:25:28
Speaker 2: And thus doesn't produce ova.
1:25:29
Speaker 1: So gay people would be able to just jerk off
1:25:32
Speaker 1: on each other, and they don't suffer any of the consequences.
1:25:36
Speaker 1: But if a couple of straights get caught, you know, discharging.
1:25:43
Speaker 3: This is unfair on so many levels.
1:25:46
Speaker 1: Well, it's just, it's beyond ridiculous what's going on here.
1:25:49
Speaker 1: Republican activist Austin Beigel laughed. It's a mockery of the
1:25:53
Speaker 1: most basic biological conceptions.
1:25:56
Speaker 3: And now I still, I'm sort of, kind of can't
1:25:59
Speaker 3: believe this is a real article.
1:26:01
Speaker 1: Well, I think their purpose in this was saying, if
1:26:03
Speaker 1: you think it's absurd to regulate men, then you should
1:26:06
Speaker 1: think it's equally absurd to regulate women.
1:26:08
Speaker 2: So Mani responded.
1:26:09
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that there was an original idea that.
1:26:13
Speaker 2: I see, I see.
1:26:14
Speaker 3: Okay, of course, yeah.
1:26:15
Speaker 2: About taking on reproductive rights for women.
1:26:18
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
1:26:18
Speaker 2: So, huh. I don't know, man.
1:26:21
Speaker 3: It's a good idea.
1:26:22
Speaker 2: I'd run up a tab, I know that.
1:26:23
Speaker 3: They're making a valid point when you put it that way, absolutely.
1:26:26
Speaker 2: I'd run up a tab.
1:26:28
Speaker 1: Um, did you, when you hosted SNL, what was that
1:26:31
Speaker 1: like for, do you recall kind of some of the
1:26:33
Speaker 1: energy of that night?
1:26:34
Speaker 3: It was, it was, uh, a wild, somewhat terrifying experience. Um,
1:26:42
Speaker 3: you know, I, um, I had just gone through some pretty,
1:26:46
Speaker 3: I'd gone through, just gone.
1:26:47
Speaker 2: Through surgery, like from testicular cancer. Yeah.
1:26:50
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'd had this lymph node dissection and I
1:26:53
Speaker 3: was kind of like It had affected my sort of
1:26:56
Speaker 3: energy levels a lot. So it was kind of– there
1:26:59
Speaker 3: was a lot going on in my life when I
1:27:01
Speaker 3: actually got the call to do that show and to
1:27:04
Speaker 3: do Saturday Night Live. And, you know, it was really
1:27:09
Speaker 3: cool though. The thing that was cool about it was,
1:27:11
Speaker 3: you know, Lorne Michaels, who's Canadian, and I was just
1:27:16
Speaker 3: so kind of sort of– kind of sort of overwhelmed
1:27:22
Speaker 3: that I was asked to do it, right? And I
1:27:25
Speaker 3: had a couple of friends who I grew up with
1:27:27
Speaker 3: who worked on my show with me and I said,
1:27:29
Speaker 3: you know, can they come in and like kind of
1:27:31
Speaker 3: work with me and do some– help write some skits
1:27:33
Speaker 3: and stuff. So they gave us a little office and
1:27:35
Speaker 3: that stuff. We went and then we were sort of
1:27:36
Speaker 3: writing skits up and everything. And, you know, they actually
1:27:42
Speaker 3: kind of ended up giving– me a lot of kind
1:27:45
Speaker 3: of creative freedom on the show to kind of write
1:27:48
Speaker 3: sketches and stuff. And, um, you know, in hindsight, I
1:27:52
Speaker 3: kind of wish they hadn't.
1:27:53
Speaker 2: No. Like they had just written them themselves? Yeah.
1:27:56
Speaker 3: Well, cause, cause we really kind of made some really
1:27:58
Speaker 3: weird fucking sketches, you know, and I think maybe it
1:28:00
Speaker 3: would have been cool if I, maybe I'd just gone
1:28:02
Speaker 3: in and done the stuff that they had written. But like,
1:28:04
Speaker 3: I was, I was sort of definitely, you know, Freddy
1:28:10
Speaker 3: Got Fingered hadn't come out yet. So like I was
1:28:13
Speaker 3: still kind of riding high on this hit show and
1:28:16
Speaker 3: we commented and we said, okay, now let's write some
1:28:18
Speaker 3: crazy sketches, right? And I mean the stuff we wrote
1:28:21
Speaker 3: was really, really weird, you know?
1:28:25
Speaker 2: And– Were you intent on making it weird?
1:28:29
Speaker 3: I think we were, yeah.
1:28:30
Speaker 2: Like how weird can we make this? It's SNL. Let's
1:28:33
Speaker 2: make it ours.
1:28:33
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so. And sometimes I think
1:28:36
Speaker 3: there was a misperception maybe among some of the cast
1:28:39
Speaker 3: that I brought my own writers in, which wasn't really
1:28:41
Speaker 3: the case. It was more like it was my buddies
1:28:45
Speaker 3: and they'd come up with me with the show. It
1:28:48
Speaker 3: was kind of like we were– when we made the
1:28:50
Speaker 3: show in Canada, some of my friends came down with me.
1:28:54
Speaker 2: To the States to– Like this is part of the team.
1:28:56
Speaker 2: It's not just Tom Brady.
1:28:57
Speaker 3: I want them to be included in the show. So
1:29:00
Speaker 3: we kind of went in and did that. But I
1:29:02
Speaker 3: mean it's– it was an amazingly exciting experience. I mean
1:29:05
Speaker 3: my parents were there on stage with me. It was
1:29:11
Speaker 3: one of those things where you kind of can't believe
1:29:14
Speaker 3: that you actually– that it actually happened while it was happening.
1:29:17
Speaker 3: And I did a lot of sketches with Will Ferrell.
1:29:20
Speaker 3: One of the, like, here's an example of something that I,
1:29:23
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I regret this, but like, uh, but, um,
1:29:26
Speaker 3: I kind of regret this. Um, so, so there was a,
1:29:30
Speaker 3: there was a sketch where I'm a wizard and I'm
1:29:33
Speaker 3: holding a pig, like an actual pig. And, uh, and
1:29:38
Speaker 3: it was Molly Shannon and Will and I'm a wizard.
1:29:42
Speaker 3: And I didn't really have any lines in the sketch
1:29:44
Speaker 3: or many lines in the sketch. It was mostly Will
1:29:46
Speaker 3: and Molly were doing this, uh, sketch and But I
1:29:50
Speaker 3: noticed during rehearsal that if I just kind of lightly
1:29:53
Speaker 3: sort of tickled the pig's belly with my finger, that
1:29:58
Speaker 3: it would start to squeal extremely loud, right? And so
1:30:02
Speaker 3: I did that once during rehearsal, and then somebody said, oh,
1:30:04
Speaker 3: you better not, you know, she'll squeal if you touch
1:30:07
Speaker 3: her belly. And so I said, okay. And there's a
1:30:10
Speaker 3: rehearsal show, and then there's the actual show, right? And,
1:30:14
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of maybe regret this, but I
1:30:17
Speaker 3: did note that okay, let's get through the rehearsal show,
1:30:22
Speaker 3: but then live, I'm going to make that pig squeal, right?
1:30:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:30:26
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, sister. So it did kind of— Sorry, I
1:30:29
Speaker 3: made pig. No, but it was kind of— it kind of
1:30:33
Speaker 3: threw the sketch off.
1:30:34
Speaker 2: A little bit. You just fucking kept squealing that?
1:30:36
Speaker 3: I realized that it did kind of throw the rhythm
1:30:38
Speaker 3: of the comedy off a little bit, but— How.
1:30:42
Speaker 2: Many times did you squeal it?
1:30:43
Speaker 3: It just sort of became sort of a bit of
1:30:45
Speaker 3: a mess, right?
1:30:48
Speaker 2: And were you getting a squeal every time he touched
1:30:50
Speaker 2: his belly or did you have to really?
1:30:51
Speaker 3: No, I just had to kind of just lightly sort
1:30:54
Speaker 3: of pet her there and she.
1:30:55
Speaker 2: Would just try.
1:30:57
Speaker 3: But it was amusing to me, but I'm not sure
1:30:59
Speaker 3: if anybody else enjoyed it that much.
1:31:01
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
1:31:01
Speaker 3: My sister's like that.
1:31:03
Speaker 1: If you touch her lunch, you know, she fucking gets
1:31:05
Speaker 1: a little animated. If you grab any of her Takis
1:31:07
Speaker 1: out of her little dish.
1:31:08
Speaker 2: Right.
1:31:08
Speaker 3: It was like that. Yeah. So, but, you know, it
1:31:13
Speaker 3: was an amazing experience. I was total honor to be
1:31:16
Speaker 3: able to do it.
1:31:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:31:17
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I, you know, it was cool.
1:31:19
Speaker 3: I mean, the cast was Jimmy Fallon, Tina Fey, Will Ferrell,
1:31:24
Speaker 3: Chris Kattan, Molly Shannon, Anna Gasteyer, Tracy Morgan. And, you know,
1:31:34
Speaker 3: you know, there was, it's a weird environment like Saturday
1:31:38
Speaker 3: Night Live, especially when you're young and you don't really know, like,
1:31:42
Speaker 3: you know, we were talking earlier about like going to,
1:31:44
Speaker 3: you're talking about going to Chris Rock's party and like
1:31:46
Speaker 3: you'd didn't know how to act or whatever because there's
1:31:48
Speaker 3: all these people here and it's kind of complicated yeah
1:31:51
Speaker 3: so you're getting thrust into an environment like that and
1:31:54
Speaker 3: then it's even as the host it sort of felt
1:31:58
Speaker 3: like kind of a competitive environment because you know all
1:32:01
Speaker 3: the cast members are trying to write sketches and get
1:32:04
Speaker 3: them on the air everyone every week and and i
1:32:07
Speaker 3: didn't really know how it worked really at the time
1:32:09
Speaker 3: in hindsight i now realize how it works and i
1:32:12
Speaker 3: We might have done things differently, but when we were
1:32:14
Speaker 3: trying to put these sketches on the air that we
1:32:16
Speaker 3: were writing, maybe that was kind of pushing another sketch
1:32:18
Speaker 3: off and we didn't really– I wasn't really thinking of
1:32:20
Speaker 3: it like that. So it kind of created– it's kind
1:32:23
Speaker 3: of a weird environment. The more I kind of sort
1:32:29
Speaker 3: of hear people on podcasts who have been on the
1:32:32
Speaker 3: show talk about the show, it seems like everybody has
1:32:34
Speaker 3: gone through that experience who has been on that show
1:32:35
Speaker 3: where it's very competitive and stressful for people. That makes
1:32:40
Speaker 3: me feel a little bit. better about my experience there because,
1:32:43
Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of, you know, a stressful experience,
1:32:48
Speaker 3: you know, because you know everybody's going to be watching
1:32:50
Speaker 3: the show, it's live, and, you know, I'm, you know,
1:32:55
Speaker 3: you're doing all this weird stuff that's not necessarily You know,
1:32:58
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit out of my element. I didn't
1:33:00
Speaker 3: do sketch comedy.
1:33:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's scary.
1:33:02
Speaker 3: So it was, but it was cool. It was cool.
1:33:05
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's par for the course a little.
1:33:06
Speaker 1: Because, yeah, I mean, even Adam Sandler the other night
1:33:08
Speaker 1: was singing. He had a musical tribute that he did
1:33:11
Speaker 1: to the 50 years. And he referenced a couple times
1:33:15
Speaker 1: about people having sketches that they wrote that didn't get
1:33:17
Speaker 1: on the show. So I think that seems like it
1:33:19
Speaker 1: was just a weekly occurrence. And, of course, you want
1:33:21
Speaker 1: to go in there with a little bit more comfort
1:33:23
Speaker 1: zone for yourself. You know, it's like, yeah, if we
1:33:25
Speaker 1: can write a couple of them or we can, have
1:33:27
Speaker 1: some manipulation over them.
1:33:29
Speaker 2: It's probably going to make you feel more comfortable, you know?
1:33:31
Speaker 3: Another thing that was weird that happened on the show.
1:33:32
Speaker 3: So like, so there was a sketch that I did.
1:33:38
Speaker 3: It's called a sketch like I did with Will Ferrell
1:33:41
Speaker 3: where we're both dressed as eagles. And this was one
1:33:45
Speaker 3: of the ones that my friends and I wrote. Okay.
1:33:47
Speaker 3: It's sort of hard to sort of say that we
1:33:49
Speaker 3: wrote it, but the sketch was, you know, Jimmy Fallon
1:33:55
Speaker 3: and Molly Shannon are looking at, Will and I, who
1:33:58
Speaker 3: are eagles, right? We wrote this out, by the way,
1:34:00
Speaker 3: on paper and handed it in and then they said
1:34:02
Speaker 3: to do it. And then Will and I decide to
1:34:07
Speaker 3: fly up into the audience, okay? And I thought it
1:34:12
Speaker 3: would be fun to go in the audience. So we
1:34:13
Speaker 3: fly into the audience and then we chew up carrots
1:34:18
Speaker 3: and then I believe Will chews up a carrot and
1:34:21
Speaker 3: I believe he sort of spits the carrot into my
1:34:24
Speaker 3: mouth and then kind of We end up sort of...
1:34:28
Speaker 3: Because you know how baby birds will chew up the
1:34:30
Speaker 3: food and feed it. Mother birds will chew up the
1:34:33
Speaker 3: food and make it easier for the baby to eat.
1:34:36
Speaker 3: So this was the sketch we did.
1:34:38
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
1:34:41
Speaker 3: But so... Oh, God. So somehow I kind of maybe
1:34:45
Speaker 3: probably would have been better if we just kind of
1:34:46
Speaker 3: did the sketches that their writers had written.
1:34:49
Speaker 2: Oh, God.
1:34:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:34:51
Speaker 2: And these are both males, huh?
1:34:53
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we're doing this. Yeah, exactly. So we're doing this.
1:34:58
Speaker 2: What zoo is that at? That's what I'm talking about.
1:35:01
Speaker 2: That's the West Hollywood Aquarium right there, brother. I'll tell
1:35:04
Speaker 2: you that, huh?
1:35:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:35:05
Speaker 3: So we're doing this sketch, this skit. And so, you know,
1:35:11
Speaker 3: when you host the show, you got to run to
1:35:12
Speaker 3: get ready for the next sketch because you got to
1:35:14
Speaker 3: take off your eagle costume and put on another costume, right?
1:35:17
Speaker 3: And so I'm running down the stairs and I'm running
1:35:19
Speaker 3: through the backstage area and just sitting in the darkness,
1:35:23
Speaker 3: you know, just backstage, Tom Hanks is just sitting there
1:35:26
Speaker 3: in front of a monitor watching the show. And I'm
1:35:28
Speaker 3: in the eagle costume. I'd just done that. I make
1:35:31
Speaker 3: eye contact with Tom Hanks. So now I'm like, oh,
1:35:34
Speaker 3: I was already kind of nervous. Now, like, I got...
1:35:38
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks in the, in the dark watching. And I'm
1:35:41
Speaker 3: going like, how did that Eagle sketch go? You know,
1:35:45
Speaker 3: and I'm sort of getting ready for the next sketch.
1:35:47
Speaker 3: Not sure how the Eagle sketch went and Tom Hanks
1:35:50
Speaker 3: is watching. So it kind of throws you a little bit,
1:35:52
Speaker 3: but then there's a big after party after the show.
1:35:55
Speaker 3: And Tom Hanks was real nice. And he, you know,
1:35:56
Speaker 3: was hanging out, talking to my parents and stuff. And
1:35:59
Speaker 3: so it was pretty cool. But no, it was an
1:36:01
Speaker 3: amazing thing. It's a, It's the kind of thing, though,
1:36:03
Speaker 3: like it's kind of like you go, geez, it would
1:36:05
Speaker 3: be nice to be able to do it again someday
1:36:07
Speaker 3: because I think like doing it the first time is
1:36:10
Speaker 3: sort of so– I don't know that that would ever happen.
1:36:13
Speaker 3: But probably in an alternate universe, I might be able
1:36:17
Speaker 3: to do it again someday. But like you go, OK,
1:36:20
Speaker 3: I sort of understand how the system of it works now.
1:36:23
Speaker 3: And it would be probably– I probably would not have
1:36:30
Speaker 3: done that.
1:36:32
Speaker 1: Yeah but also it's great that you did though it's
1:36:35
Speaker 1: so epic yeah and yeah i think you're right about
1:36:37
Speaker 1: that's like a lot of things in life you're like
1:36:39
Speaker 1: man i wish i had gotten a trial run or
1:36:41
Speaker 1: i had a little bit of an idea of how
1:36:43
Speaker 1: the feelings were or what the energy was like in
1:36:45
Speaker 1: that space or that room or like man there's been
1:36:49
Speaker 1: things you go out on a stage part of a
1:36:50
Speaker 1: show or a banquet some type of thing and you
1:36:53
Speaker 1: you just play play the room totally wrong you know
1:36:57
Speaker 1: that didn't seem like that but there's definitely times like
1:37:00
Speaker 1: that in life and you wish you're like man i
1:37:01
Speaker 1: wish i had get one more swing at it.
1:37:03
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I think that, uh, you know, that, uh,
1:37:08
Speaker 3: generally you can at least take those lessons and apply
1:37:12
Speaker 3: them to something else.
1:37:13
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
1:37:14
Speaker 3: So yeah.
1:37:15
Speaker 1: Did, um, was Michael Jackson there whenever you guys played?
1:37:18
Speaker 1: Who was y'all's musical guest?
1:37:19
Speaker 3: Uh, no, it was not Michael Jackson, but that would
1:37:21
Speaker 3: have been amazing if it was Michael Jackson. No, it
1:37:23
Speaker 3: was David Gray. Uh, but, um, Man, it would have
1:37:28
Speaker 3: been amazing. No, nothing against David Gray, but have you
1:37:32
Speaker 3: ever had Michael Jackson?
1:37:33
Speaker 2: I've seen David Gray play.
1:37:34
Speaker 3: Have you ever interacted with Michael Jackson in any way?
1:37:38
Speaker 2: No.
1:37:38
Speaker 3: No, that would have been amazing. But yeah, he was great.
1:37:44
Speaker 2: I would love to see....
1:37:47
Speaker 3: Another weird thing that happened on the show. Michael Jackson.
1:37:49
Speaker 3: One thing that was weird that happened on the show.
1:37:51
Speaker 3: So I was backstage getting ready for the... I don't
1:37:54
Speaker 3: even know if I should tell this story. I don't
1:37:55
Speaker 3: even know if I should tell this story. Maybe it's not...
1:37:58
Speaker 3: Let's talk about something else.
1:37:59
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:37:59
Speaker 3: It's a weird story.
1:38:00
Speaker 2: No worries. Yeah, Tom Hanks was here the other night.
1:38:04
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see him. Oh, I got to
1:38:06
Speaker 2: see Madonna. She's little.
1:38:08
Speaker 3: Okay. Where was that?
1:38:09
Speaker 2: Such a little baby carrot. What? She was at that
1:38:14
Speaker 2: SNL thing.
1:38:15
Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Yeah. That's cool.
1:38:16
Speaker 2: It was just interesting.
1:38:17
Speaker 3: So were you chatting with Madonna?
1:38:18
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
1:38:18
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I would say. She's quite
1:38:20
Speaker 3: interesting on TikTok these days. Oh, is she? She does
1:38:23
Speaker 3: some pretty sort of... Out there stuff on her TikTok.
1:38:27
Speaker 2: I got to follow her. I got to check her out.
1:38:30
Speaker 1: When you have these, you beat cancer, right? Has it
1:38:34
Speaker 1: flared back up? What's that been like?
1:38:36
Speaker 3: No, it's completely gone.
1:38:38
Speaker 2: Did they have to take out one of your gonads
1:38:40
Speaker 2: or not?
1:38:41
Speaker 3: One testicle, yeah. My right testicle and some lymph nodes
1:38:44
Speaker 3: as well.
1:38:45
Speaker 1: And what are the lymph nodes like? Is that actually
1:38:47
Speaker 1: in the testicle or is that in the body?
1:38:48
Speaker 3: No, the lymph nodes are actually behind your intestines and
1:38:52
Speaker 3: they have to like, they cut me up here and
1:38:54
Speaker 3: they had to remove those. And that was just to
1:38:56
Speaker 3: check to see if the cancer had spread into them.
1:38:58
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:38:59
Speaker 3: And, you know, the only way they could really check
1:39:01
Speaker 3: and know for 100% sure if it had spread was
1:39:03
Speaker 3: to take them out and look at them under a
1:39:04
Speaker 3: microscope and stuff. So, So they had not spread. So
1:39:07
Speaker 3: then that meant I did not have to have chemo
1:39:08
Speaker 3: and stuff. But they did take my right testicle, which
1:39:11
Speaker 3: was honestly, like when I found out, the show was
1:39:14
Speaker 3: on MTV at the time.
1:39:15
Speaker 2: And you have it still.
1:39:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not keep it like. indefinitely, but that
1:39:20
Speaker 3: is it in a plastic bag right there.
1:39:22
Speaker 2: Um, how many ounces is it? Do you know?
1:39:24
Speaker 3: I don't remember weighing it exactly, but I know it's
1:39:27
Speaker 3: quite heavy for sure.
1:39:28
Speaker 2: Oh, hell yeah. I can give you that. But, uh, yeah, no,
1:39:32
Speaker 2: we don't have no light testicles around here.
1:39:37
Speaker 3: But, uh, we filmed the whole, uh, the whole, um,
1:39:41
Speaker 3: sort of, uh, surgery, uh, and, For a show on MTV.
1:39:45
Speaker 3: That's actually the whole show there, the Cancer Special, which
1:39:47
Speaker 3: is on YouTube. But you'd see my documentary on Prime
1:39:50
Speaker 3: too where it kind of walks through that whole– that's
1:39:52
Speaker 3: Glenn Humplick who is my friend and co-host on the show.
1:39:56
Speaker 3: And here he is sort of after my surgery coming
1:39:58
Speaker 3: down and playing with my testicle. A little bit of
1:40:00
Speaker 3: sashimi there. Yeah, it's a little sashimi. Yeah, that's what
1:40:02
Speaker 3: he says. It sort of looks like chicken. And then
1:40:04
Speaker 3: my mom says, I don't know what kind of chicken
1:40:06
Speaker 3: you're eating. Yeah, so that is my cancer-infected testicle right there.
1:40:10
Speaker 3: But I still have the left one. It's the middle
1:40:12
Speaker 3: one now.
1:40:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:40:15
Speaker 3: I can still ejaculate just a little. No, it's pretty good, actually.
1:40:18
Speaker 2: Heck yeah, dude. It's going to cost you 10 grand
1:40:20
Speaker 2: if you drive over to Ohio and do it. I'll
1:40:22
Speaker 2: tell you that, bro. Look, why would you stop in Mishawaka?
1:40:26
Speaker 3: Only five grand for me. Oh, yeah, that's true. Which
1:40:32
Speaker 3: is a benefit in Ohio, to have a testicular cancer.
1:40:34
Speaker 3: You can kind of.
1:40:35
Speaker 2: God, brother. The tariffs they would rack up, they'd make
1:40:38
Speaker 2: a million bucks a night in that state. That's not
1:40:40
Speaker 2: a bad idea.
1:40:41
Speaker 3: No, not a bad idea, for sure.
1:40:43
Speaker 2: Did you ever wear a prosthetic testicle?
1:40:45
Speaker 3: It was offered, and I refused to do it. Not refused,
1:40:48
Speaker 3: but I just sort of... opted out on the prosthetic.
1:40:52
Speaker 2: Did you ever look at them at least?
1:40:54
Speaker 3: I think I did. Yeah, I think I did. This was,
1:40:56
Speaker 3: you know, 20 years ago. But I'd heard, the doctor
1:41:01
Speaker 3: kind of said, you know, a lot of people get them,
1:41:02
Speaker 3: don't like it. They say it kind of sort of
1:41:04
Speaker 3: feels weird or whatever. So I just figured, no, I
1:41:06
Speaker 3: don't need one. So, you know, but I mean, I
1:41:08
Speaker 3: don't know how much you want to talk about my
1:41:10
Speaker 3: ball sack, but I mean, it doesn't really seem that
1:41:13
Speaker 3: much different like down there. Like, I mean.
1:41:14
Speaker 2: Oh, I could imagine that too. As you're talking.
1:41:16
Speaker 3: It kind of all just kind of sort of morphs
1:41:18
Speaker 3: into kind of like a, Cause like the, like the, the, um,
1:41:23
Speaker 3: like they don't like, um, like, um, they don't actually
1:41:26
Speaker 3: like go through the scrotum to get the testicle. You
1:41:30
Speaker 3: know that? Like they don't actually cut the scrotum.
1:41:32
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
1:41:33
Speaker 3: No, they go in, they cut you like up, sort
1:41:34
Speaker 3: of up, up here, like on your, like under your,
1:41:36
Speaker 3: your pubics hair kind of thing.
1:41:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:41:38
Speaker 3: Under your pubes.
1:41:39
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
1:41:39
Speaker 3: They go in there and then they kind of go
1:41:41
Speaker 3: in and they just sort of shuck it out like
1:41:43
Speaker 3: an oyster from above.
1:41:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:41:44
Speaker 3: So it's sort of not really. the scrotum is completely intact.
1:41:49
Speaker 3: There's not some sort of scarred scrotum or anything. I
1:41:53
Speaker 3: don't have a scarred up scrotum.
1:41:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:41:55
Speaker 3: It's totally normal scrotum.
1:41:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, good.
1:41:57
Speaker 3: Yeah. There's a little scar up here, but I'd had
1:42:00
Speaker 3: a hernia operation before when I was younger, so they
1:42:05
Speaker 3: just went through the same thing. So it's like you wouldn't...
1:42:07
Speaker 3: Just a little scar there. Yeah, so.
1:42:09
Speaker 2: A lot of hernias in Canada too. What country has
1:42:11
Speaker 2: the most hernias, you think?
1:42:12
Speaker 3: Yeah. That is interesting. I never thought about that. But
1:42:15
Speaker 3: is there a lot in Canada?
1:42:16
Speaker 2: A lot of my friends in Canada have had hernias.
1:42:19
Speaker 3: A lot of your friends in Canada have had hernias, really?
1:42:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just wondering.
1:42:23
Speaker 3: I'd be curious to see if there's more in Canada.
1:42:26
Speaker 3: That would be certainly an interesting statistic for sure.
1:42:29
Speaker 1: According to available data, countries in South Asia and sub-Saharan
1:42:32
Speaker 1: Africa tend to have the highest prevalence of hernias, particularly
1:42:36
Speaker 1: in regions with lower socioeconomic status, with countries like India
1:42:39
Speaker 1: and parts of Tanzania showing significantly higher rates compared to
1:42:42
Speaker 1: high-income nations. This is largely due to factors like limited
1:42:45
Speaker 1: access to health care and higher rates of manual labor.
1:42:48
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:42:49
Speaker 3: I gave myself a hernia on my show, live on
1:42:54
Speaker 3: the public. It was on the public access version of
1:42:56
Speaker 3: the show years before we were on MTV.
1:42:59
Speaker 2: And.
1:43:01
Speaker 3: It was kind of a strange episode, probably one of
1:43:03
Speaker 3: the weirder ones where we said, okay, I'm going to
1:43:06
Speaker 3: break the Guinness Book of World Records for the longest fingernails.
1:43:10
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen those?
1:43:11
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We used to see them all the time.
1:43:13
Speaker 2: This is a strange bit. And the Chinese kid on
1:43:14
Speaker 2: the bikes, remember that?
1:43:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:43:15
Speaker 2: That world record book? Yeah.
1:43:17
Speaker 1: They'd have a 15 or 16, a whole just a
1:43:19
Speaker 1: starter pack of Asians all hanging off a bike.
1:43:22
Speaker 3: Exactly. So for whatever reason, this doesn't even sound like
1:43:28
Speaker 3: it could even possibly make sense to describe it, but
1:43:31
Speaker 3: The idea was, okay, I'm going to, it was Glenn
1:43:33
Speaker 3: and myself. It's a live show. It was on community cable,
1:43:36
Speaker 3: you know, it's not on a big network, you know,
1:43:39
Speaker 3: so it was sort of late at night. And we said, okay,
1:43:42
Speaker 3: what we're going to do is we're going to try
1:43:43
Speaker 3: to break the record for longest fingernails. And I had
1:43:45
Speaker 3: a bunch of milk, calcium, and I set it up
1:43:49
Speaker 3: all very seriously. And then I start drinking milk. And
1:43:52
Speaker 3: then for the entire hour, I just basically drank milk
1:43:56
Speaker 3: and kind of stared at my fingernails for an hour.
1:44:01
Speaker 3: and didn't do anything, right? Just kind of progressively got
1:44:04
Speaker 3: a little bit more kind of sort of weird. And
1:44:08
Speaker 3: then towards the end of the show, I kind of
1:44:10
Speaker 3: stood up and started thrashing around sort of somewhat violently.
1:44:13
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's no real logical reason for it.
1:44:15
Speaker 3: It was like a milk overdose or something. And I
1:44:19
Speaker 3: started doing this thrashing and I hit the desk and
1:44:22
Speaker 3: I flipped the desk over and And I felt something
1:44:26
Speaker 3: pop in my abdomen. And then we went off the
1:44:29
Speaker 3: air and I went up to the bathroom and my
1:44:31
Speaker 3: intestine was like pushing out through my abdomen. And went
1:44:37
Speaker 3: to the hospital and I had given myself a hernia.
1:44:39
Speaker 3: So that's how that happened.
1:44:42
Speaker 2: Was that probably the worst accident you ever endeared?
1:44:45
Speaker 3: No. The worst one ever was just two years ago.
1:44:51
Speaker 3: I stepped on a fire in– on the beach in
1:44:55
Speaker 3: Costa Rica.
1:44:57
Speaker 2: The old fire step, huh?
1:44:58
Speaker 3: It had been buried under sand. And I walked up
1:45:02
Speaker 3: to this bonfire and the edge of the fire had
1:45:05
Speaker 3: been buried and my foot went into it. And yeah,
1:45:09
Speaker 3: I got third degree burns on both my feet.
1:45:12
Speaker 2: I thought that was.
1:45:13
Speaker 3: A couple to-go sandwiches. Yeah, no. Yeah, that was maybe
1:45:18
Speaker 3: the worst. And that was just three years ago. I
1:45:23
Speaker 3: almost lost my foot You.
1:45:25
Speaker 2: Just had to lay in bed for a while, huh?
1:45:28
Speaker 3: For 10 days in a Costa Rican hospital, and then
1:45:30
Speaker 3: I was medevaced on an air ambulance back to Canada, actually,
1:45:35
Speaker 3: and spent another week and a half in the hospital there. And, yeah,
1:45:40
Speaker 3: my foot's pretty messed up right now, but it's better.
1:45:43
Speaker 3: It's better. Not 100%, but I've had a few good injuries. Oh,
1:45:46
Speaker 3: there they go. There they are. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
1:45:49
Speaker 3: You found the unedited version.
1:45:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:45:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, that, that, wow, look at that. Yeah, it was,
1:45:55
Speaker 3: and look at this, the top of my foot. Wow.
1:45:57
Speaker 3: The bottom of the foot ain't good either.
1:45:59
Speaker 2: Those are sexy. I'll spend 10 grand on those things, huh?
1:46:03
Speaker 2: Look out, Ohio.
1:46:05
Speaker 3: Jeez, yeah, my God.
1:46:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:46:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, those are my feet right there. That
1:46:10
Speaker 3: was just, that was maybe coming up on three years
1:46:12
Speaker 3: ago now. So yeah, that was, that was maybe the
1:46:15
Speaker 3: worst injury ever. So yeah, that's it.
1:46:19
Speaker 2: So the show that you have now, you have the
1:46:22
Speaker 2: special that's out.
1:46:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. It all came out just a few weeks ago.
1:46:27
Speaker 2: The 28th or something, when was it?
1:46:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
1:46:29
Speaker 2: And it's all on Amazon Prime.
1:46:31
Speaker 3: On Prime. This is the Tom Green documentary. And then
1:46:37
Speaker 3: the stand-up special. It's called I Got a Mule.
1:46:40
Speaker 2: I Got a Mule.
1:46:40
Speaker 3: I'm talking about my life on the farm and getting
1:46:42
Speaker 3: my mule. And then the show, which is a four-episode
1:46:46
Speaker 3: sort of series of me moving to the farm called
1:46:48
Speaker 3: Tom Green Country. And I recorded all the music for
1:46:52
Speaker 3: the show as well. There's a country album that I
1:46:54
Speaker 3: put out, which is the soundtrack for the show, which
1:46:57
Speaker 3: is called Home to the Country, which is on Spotify.
1:47:00
Speaker 2: It's called what?
1:47:00
Speaker 3: It's called Home to the Country. Home to the Country.
1:47:02
Speaker 3: It's the name of the album. And that's out on music,
1:47:06
Speaker 3: wherever you get music now. And then I'm on tour.
1:47:08
Speaker 3: I'm actually on tour. I'm getting back in the camper
1:47:10
Speaker 3: van and we're going to start do a little bit
1:47:13
Speaker 3: more camping and touring around with my fiance up through
1:47:16
Speaker 3: the desert. And then- And then we'll be picking up
1:47:19
Speaker 3: the tour again March 14th in Colorado. It'll be Colorado Springs, Aspen,
1:47:26
Speaker 3: upwards to, you know, up through, where are we going? Indianapolis, St. Louis.
1:47:30
Speaker 3: All the dates are on my website, but Chicago. So
1:47:34
Speaker 3: touring and driving back to Canada. And then I'll be
1:47:36
Speaker 3: riding my mule all summer. When are you in Ottawa?
1:47:39
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in Ottawa, I'm not sure actually.
1:47:41
Speaker 2: I think sometime before the, I guess May maybe.
1:47:44
Speaker 3: Oh, cool, cool.
1:47:45
Speaker 2: But I have to let you know before.
1:47:46
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come.
1:47:46
Speaker 1: It'd be so cool to come see the farm. Do
1:47:48
Speaker 1: you think like with a lot of the new stuff
1:47:50
Speaker 1: you're shooting now or some of the stuff that I
1:47:51
Speaker 1: see on your YouTube channel, it's a little bit more
1:47:55
Speaker 1: artistic in some way. I don't know if that's a word. Yeah.
1:48:00
Speaker 3: It's definitely like not, uh, something that I expect to
1:48:03
Speaker 3: really go viral in a lot of ways because it's
1:48:06
Speaker 3: like very long form stuff that I just really like
1:48:09
Speaker 3: shooting like that. I, I mean.
1:48:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:48:11
Speaker 1: Do you notice you like almost, it almost seems like
1:48:13
Speaker 1: it's almost like you'd want to shoot like a feature,
1:48:16
Speaker 1: like a movie.
1:48:16
Speaker 2: I can't tell, you know, I don't know.
1:48:18
Speaker 1: Cause you know, sometimes we have things that start to
1:48:20
Speaker 1: happen and then it becomes something else, you know? But
1:48:22
Speaker 1: when I'm watching it, I feel like I'm getting into a,
1:48:27
Speaker 1: I'm getting into a world.
1:48:28
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. Yeah.
1:48:30
Speaker 3: That's cool. That's cool. I mean, like to know that
1:48:32
Speaker 3: you've watched it cause it sort of is sort of,
1:48:36
Speaker 3: It's not like a mainstream comedy sort of piece that
1:48:40
Speaker 3: I'm putting on my YouTube channel right now. It's, you know,
1:48:42
Speaker 3: I want to kind of just capture what it feels
1:48:44
Speaker 3: like being out in the desert and in these amazing
1:48:46
Speaker 3: places or being on the farm with the animals. And so,
1:48:50
Speaker 3: you know, I like shooting and capturing images that are
1:48:56
Speaker 3: sort of calming and beautiful. And it is the kind
1:49:00
Speaker 3: of thing that... You know, the show's not like that.
1:49:04
Speaker 3: The show is, there's a lot more going on, but
1:49:06
Speaker 3: there is something nice about just kind of putting it
1:49:09
Speaker 3: on and sitting back and just kind of like, it's
1:49:12
Speaker 3: like an ASMR type of thing.
1:49:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it feels like. It's like ASMR for
1:49:15
Speaker 2: your eyes kind of.
1:49:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So it's interesting. I mean, I think a
1:49:18
Speaker 3: lot of it started just as me kind of like
1:49:20
Speaker 3: really trying to experiment with the cameras and just trying
1:49:22
Speaker 3: to figure out how to make these cameras work and
1:49:25
Speaker 3: capture the sort of the cinematography the way I want
1:49:28
Speaker 3: to capture it. And I think that maybe it may
1:49:30
Speaker 3: evolve into something a little bit more faster paced at
1:49:33
Speaker 3: some point. But right now, it's just a lot of
1:49:36
Speaker 3: this sort of slice of life stuff that I put
1:49:37
Speaker 3: up on the YouTube channel. And I have a podcast
1:49:41
Speaker 3: that I do one episode every six months or something
1:49:45
Speaker 3: like that. I might start doing the podcast again and
1:49:47
Speaker 3: putting that up to kind of give people something a
1:49:50
Speaker 3: little bit more familiar to watch. But right now, yeah,
1:49:52
Speaker 3: that's what it is. And I just– I kind of–
1:49:58
Speaker 3: just enjoy taking people to these places. I mean, I
1:50:03
Speaker 3: find it interesting that like, you know, everything's so fast
1:50:05
Speaker 3: paced now. Like, you know, everything is so, people's attention
1:50:08
Speaker 3: spans are so short now that it's kind of interesting
1:50:12
Speaker 3: to sort of do something that's kind of not that.
1:50:16
Speaker 3: And again, it's not the algorithm doesn't really work in
1:50:22
Speaker 3: its favor. You have to say something shocking within the
1:50:24
Speaker 3: first 10 seconds and then put some words on the
1:50:26
Speaker 3: screen and do all these things that you can do
1:50:28
Speaker 3: to really capture large audiences. But if you do watch it,
1:50:33
Speaker 3: you sort of do kind of get sucked into a
1:50:35
Speaker 3: little secret universe in a way. There's even little messages
1:50:39
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll put like 45 minutes into a video that
1:50:42
Speaker 3: will know, if you made it that far, you know,
1:50:46
Speaker 3: then you might say something in the comments and then
1:50:49
Speaker 3: I'll know that you actually watched 45 minutes. And so
1:50:51
Speaker 3: there is a lot of people that do get it,
1:50:54
Speaker 3: you know, which is fun and it's kind of neat to,
1:50:57
Speaker 3: you know, it's impossible to capture the energy of what
1:51:00
Speaker 3: it's like out there in nature. by doing something fast-paced
1:51:05
Speaker 3: because so much of what's amazing about it is just
1:51:08
Speaker 3: the calm stillness of it all. So that's what it
1:51:10
Speaker 3: is on the YouTube channel. It's a bit different, but.
1:51:12
Speaker 1: I think people are as desperate for that as they've
1:51:14
Speaker 1: ever been in some ways. I think things have gotten.
1:51:18
Speaker 1: We're operating at a speed that we don't even feel
1:51:21
Speaker 1: comfortable in sometimes, you know? Our brains are having to.
1:51:24
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what it feels like.
1:51:26
Speaker 2: It feels like some type of an ASMR or some...
1:51:29
Speaker 2: It feels calming, man.
1:51:30
Speaker 3: That's what it feels like.
1:51:31
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm just curious because you're always... You've just
1:51:34
Speaker 1: always been a creator, you know? You're just always creating.
1:51:37
Speaker 1: You're always finding some way to, I.
1:51:41
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's in fact, to incite, to get
1:51:48
Speaker 2: a reaction out of people.
1:51:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:51:50
Speaker 2: In some type of way.
1:51:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's cool. It's weird today because there's so much
1:51:56
Speaker 3: energy online, like so much craziness and pranks and just,
1:52:00
Speaker 3: you know, like, you know, just the insanity that you
1:52:03
Speaker 3: can see every day on your phone. Like before you
1:52:05
Speaker 3: get out of bed, you're just like, you know, if
1:52:07
Speaker 3: you pick up your phone and you get that in
1:52:09
Speaker 3: your head too early in your day, your whole day
1:52:11
Speaker 3: could be just kind of, but.
1:52:12
Speaker 2: You started it. Well, that was just crazy, but it's okay.
1:52:19
Speaker 2: It's not a judgment.
1:52:20
Speaker 3: You know, technology was changing at the same time.
1:52:22
Speaker 1: But we're glad you did, man. We're glad you did, man. Tom,
1:52:25
Speaker 1: thanks so much for all the entertainment over the years.
1:52:27
Speaker 2: And, uh, Yeah, man. I just appreciate you spending time
1:52:31
Speaker 2: with me. Congratulations on the new engagement.
1:52:33
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show, Theo.
1:52:34
Speaker 3: I mean, it's awesome, man. I love the show, and
1:52:37
Speaker 3: I just appreciate you having me on.
1:52:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to come pet that donkey, man, when
1:52:41
Speaker 2: I get up there.
1:52:42
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Come pet the donkey, man. You will. I'll be
1:52:44
Speaker 3: up there.
1:52:45
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:52:46
Speaker 3: All right.
1:52:46
Speaker 2: Thanks, Tom. Thanks, man.
1:52:54
Speaker 4: Cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share
1:53:01
Speaker 4: this peace of mind I found I can feel it
1:53:05
Speaker 4: in my bones