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- 0:02SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Stable Roots.
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: This week,
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be talking about the psychology of giving,
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: and there's no better time for that than this season of giving.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to be talking about the continued need that the North Carolina
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: mountains have for rebuilding post Hurricane Helene.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: Thank you for joining me this week.
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: Generous to a fault.
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: The mountain victims of Hurricane Helene still need your help.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: It's the season of giving,
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: so there's no better time to talk about generosity,
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: our drives,
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: our judgments,
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: our stories,
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: and everything in between.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: This week, I will dive into what happens in our brains when we're being generous.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: I'll talk about why people still need our help in Western North Carolina after
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: Hurricane Helene,
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: even though millions of dollars in aid have flooded the region.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: And finally, I will give you a list of individuals and small farms that need your help today.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow's needs will be different,
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: which means there's no better time to flex your charitable adaptability.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: Being adjustable,
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: being philosophically pliant,
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: being non-judgmentally flexible is hard work for us humans who crave security and certainty.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: Let's get started.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: Your Brain on Giving
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: When you give to someone,
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: when you're offered a gift and you're met with gratitude and appreciation,
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: the pleasure centers of your brain light up and flood your body with feel-good hormones.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: Pumped with dopamine and oxytocin, you're primed for social connection and trust.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Hardwired for building community,
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: our system feels safer when we reciprocate and benefit from the actions of people
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: around us.
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: If you see someone else giving, you feel inspired to do the same.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: That's why your favorite nonprofits fundraise through personal stories and social gatherings.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: If you're a black sheep,
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: a non-conformist who believes you're immune to the establishment,
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: your brain still operates with the same drives,
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: but the landscape of the community you're joining and impressing is different.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: You may be on the fringes,
- 2:31SPEAKER_00: but the outskirts are still a place with its own cast of characters that form your community.
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: Wanting to be a part of something larger than yourself is a very good thing.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: We have the luxury of living in a society where individualism is prized,
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: but this is a modern phenomenon.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: Our nervous system still functions through ancient urges.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: We feel safer when our communities and families support us.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: We're human animals who crave a pack, a herd, a place to belong.
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: Widespread loneliness is the root of our societal dysfunction.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: We've forgotten how we're primed to live in relationship with others.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: When we give, our generosity craves an audience.
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: Again, not a bad thing, just a biological impulse.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: That's why we have names on buildings.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Even anonymous donations feel better when you're contributing to something larger
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: than yourself,
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: when you think you're a part of something bigger.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: I'm outlining all of this for a reason.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: Weighing right and wrong informs our choices.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: We do this every waking second, but it also leads to a tendency towards judgment.
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: Self-judgment is one we carry around all day like a backpack filled with bricks.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: I'm not here to judge you, so feel free to put your bags down and hang out with me for a while.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: I have a mean collection of teas.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: We want recognition for our generosity.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: It's how we're made.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: Like a horse not understanding the big circle we're asking them to make when they
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: know that cutting across in a straight line will conserve energy and take them to
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: the same destination.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: We're programmed to need logic and validation.
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: It's an internal compass that pays emotional dividends.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Safety, security, acceptance.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: Control versus chaos.
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: Survival.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: Why giving in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene is different.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: Helene was a thousand-year storm,
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: a geological event,
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: in a location without the infrastructure to handle large volumes of water and
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: strong winds.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: Like a crow flying over,
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: let's look down from the top,
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: starting with the nation,
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: and then the state,
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: the county,
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: the town,
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: the highway,
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: the road,
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: a long driveway of switchbacks to what was once a residence.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: The family that lived in this house might be camped in their yard,
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: or they're one of the lucky ones who secured a camper.
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: They're not eligible for the permits needed for a tiny home or shed.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: Propane to fuel heating and cooking is expensive and in short supply.
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: The power lines taken out by falling trees are the family's responsibility to clear
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: before the electrical company can restore power to structures that have been
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: declared a total loss by FEMA.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: Their house is condemned and national aid for rebuilding is pennies on the dollar.
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: The family did not have flood insurance.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: The family's one vehicle was old.
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: They didn't carry collision.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: The truck was flooded and crushed by a falling tree.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: There is a shortage of affordable used vehicles in the area.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: The family didn't have savings before the storm.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: Their jobs were washed away by floodwaters in an area that historically had few
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: jobs available before the destruction.
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: The land itself has been in the family for generations.
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: FEMA is a federal initiative.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: They're the last to reach disaster areas because government wheels turn slowly.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: It's just the nature of the beast.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: Bureaucracy works like a blueprint.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: It doesn't color outside the lines.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Emergency first responders are just that, the first on the scene.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: From the National Guard to local fire departments to private citizens,
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: they were on the ground as the floodwaters receded and provided critical help fast.
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: Like trying to use a surgeon as a primary care provider when the wound has been sutured,
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: you're not going to check into the OR for a follow-up.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: Healing takes time and a different support network.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: Big national nonprofits like Samaritan's Purse and the Red Cross work within an established scope.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: They're beholden to their boards of directors to deliver maximum benefit with
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: expediency and defined parameters.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: People seeking aid gain approval by proving their eligibility for very specific needs.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: We have not created a program yet that helps someone rebuild all the components of
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: their lives after a disaster.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: There are numerous organizations at work, each providing very specific aids.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: And the disaster of Hurricane Helene is unique.
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: We've never seen one like this before in our lifetimes.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: We want our behemoth charities to operate in smooth, predictable, and direct ways.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: We need them to stay within their scope.
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: If they were all willy-nilly, corruption would be even greater than it already is.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: These machines,
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: because of their transparency and guidelines,
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: are where large donors,
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: like Concert for the Carolinas with $24 million raised,
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: put their contributions.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: Donors,
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: trusts,
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: high rollers,
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: those in the public eye need their charities to be squeaky clean and socially accepted.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Their donation direction requires a proven track record or they're setting themselves up for scandal.
- 8:35SPEAKER_00: Who wants that kind of drama when you're trying to do something good?
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: On the local level,
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: smaller nonprofits,
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: many created recently to target very specific needs,
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: are operating under the umbrella of a fiscal sponsor,
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: do immense hands-on work,
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: but there's only so much they can do with limited coffers and a shortage of volunteers.
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: In the early days of the storm, people came from all over to help.
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: But three months out and the holidays calling, manpower is limited.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: The people who have been in action since day one post-Helene are tired,
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: burned out,
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: and mentally and emotionally exhausted.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: They need a break,
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: but if they stop working,
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: who will take over and see that the needs are being met in freezing temperatures
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: and the dregs of donations remaining now that the world has moved on to other things?
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: The long-term residents of Appalachia are quiet.
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: They don't ask for help.
- 9:35SPEAKER_00: They've been historically ignored, overlooked, discredited, and discounted.
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: They're weary of motivations and strangers.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: They'd rather suck it up than ask for what they need.
- 9:46SPEAKER_00: But the countless pleas for continued help are a sign of how dire the need in the mountain remains.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: The worst hit victims of the storm lost the building blocks of their lives.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: Clothes,
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: memories,
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: electronics,
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: storage,
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: food,
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: jobs,
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: beds,
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: vehicles,
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: bathrooms,
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: documents that prove their identity.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: Entire lives are not going to be rebuilt with FEMA hotel vouchers that expire in the new year.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: Many people are just getting started.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: And like the early days of the storm,
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: the bulk of aid work is currently provided by individuals and word of mouth.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: It's not coming from corporations or large organizations.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: The connections are happening through people like you and me who see a need and seek to fill it.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Compassion fatigue is real,
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: and we were burnt out from caring before this storm,
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: when our news feeds were clogged with GoFundMes for medical emergencies and burial expenses,
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: and a world where basic needs are crowdsourced.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: As we take stock of what's left over at the end of the year for charitable giving,
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: there's a reason that fundraisers bloom around the holidays.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: It's the end of the fiscal calendar for most people.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: We think we're getting a tax write-off.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: This is normal,
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: and everyone from large corporations to your grandmother thinks they're taking
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: advantage of an IRS boom.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: You donate to a nonprofit, you get a tax write-off.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: You donate to an individual or a local small business, you do not get a tax write-off.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: But how many people are giving large enough to meet the standard IRS deduction?
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: I know I'm not.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: In the psychology of reciprocity,
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: we learn that we're apt to be generous when we're receiving something tangible back
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: from giving,
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: whether the return is real or not.
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: Anthropologists Lionel Tiger and Robin Fox claim we live in a web of indebtedness.
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: It's what makes us human.
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: Reciprocity governs that web.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: Giving into a void isn't inspiring.
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: We might do it once,
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: but without a dopamine hit from receiving something back,
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: we're less likely to do it again.
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: Why post-Helene direct donations matter?
- 12:09SPEAKER_00: In the early days following the storm,
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: my list of vetted sources that needed your contributions were a collection of
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: organizations and some individuals,
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: mainly pilots,
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: who were busy getting supplies and rescues accomplished before the behemoth of
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: bureaucracy could organize and move in.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: I'm well outside the catastrophic ground zero of the storm,
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: but my metropolis in the foothills of upstate South Carolina is a changed landscape.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: Now that the autumn leaves are off the trees,
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: I see deep into the devastation of the woodlands as I drive past.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: Many home roofs are still covered in blue tarps,
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: or structurally damaged to the point that there is a telltale red slip attached to
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: the front,
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: showing that the structure is uninhabitable.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: I live nowhere near the epicenter of the storm.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: This was a thousand-year storm in a place where hurricanes do not happen.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: This region is deeply inland, and the mountains usually protect us from major weather systems.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: But in the case of Helene,
- 13:12SPEAKER_00: the mountains became a funnel for unprecedented rainfall,
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: followed by unprecedented wind.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: Mudslides, falling trees, flooding, structures far removed from waterways were decimated.
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: In the early hours of the storm,
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: I moved the people and animals inside my house,
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: a farm in the center of a forest,
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: to the center of the structure where there is no windows.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: I said a prayer for the horses in their old wooden barn with a tin roof.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: And when we finally emerged, the air smelled like a sawmill, thick with wet, snapped wood.
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: The chainsaw we bought to dig the driveways and pastures out from fallen trees cost $500.
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: FEMA reimbursed us $219.
- 14:01SPEAKER_00: We lost the food in our freezers and refrigerators,
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: and we have a pony that is suffering canker,
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: a bacterial autoimmune response,
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: in her feet from standing in a flooded stall for hours.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: Our Helene cost is in the thousands of dollars.
- 14:18SPEAKER_00: And yet we had it extraordinarily good
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: Imagine that family with kids in the crow's eye descent into the epicenter of the
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: storm in western North Carolina.
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: Pennies on the dollar and federal aid, if they're eligible, will not see them through the winter.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Their well is destroyed.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: They don't have water.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: They don't have electricity,
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: they don't have a structure to live in,
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: or funds arriving to rebuild because the old house destroyed by a redirected river
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: is now on a floodplain.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: They don't have a vehicle, they don't have a job to return to.
- 14:54SPEAKER_00: Without a home to live in, they could lose their kids.
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: There are saints on the ground doing daily work to help people keep or find a place
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: to live,
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: who are delivering aid to people camped out in cars and tents.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: The people who had the least in the community before Helene have even less now.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: They need dollars and goods, but they deeply need hope.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: I want people to understand the scale,
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: including the size of the region that was impacted and the number of communities
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: and the number of people.
- 15:26SPEAKER_00: I want them to understand that we're not entering some kind of easy recovery phase
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: anytime soon,
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: that we're still in crisis and that the crisis is actually getting worse.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: The thing that is needed most is unrestricted money to families and communities,
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: says Beth Trigg,
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: one of those saints who has worked tirelessly in her community since the storm to
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: help people who have fallen through the cracks of available aid.
- 15:54SPEAKER_00: Diamond Brand Gear Company has been a staple of the outdoors industry for 143 years,
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: and they're permanently closing their doors as a direct result of the catastrophic
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: damage sustained during Hurricane Helene on September 27,
- 16:092024.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: One of the few brands that had stemmed the tide of outsourcing and managed to keep
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: production in the United States,
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: Diamond Brand manufactured the first backpacks for the Boy Scouts in 1931 and
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: supplied products to all the big-name outdoor companies,
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: North Face,
- 16:29SPEAKER_00: Patagonia.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: You've probably used their gear.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: A GoFundMe with a balance of $11,000 will be distributed to the company's 35 employees.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: That's $315 each.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: How many of their former employees won't be able to pay rent or mortgage next month, asks Beth Trigg.
- 16:51SPEAKER_00: This is what I mean when I say we are experiencing economic collapse.
- 16:57SPEAKER_00: In their goodbye note to customers,
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: Diamond Brand wrote,
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: When we look back and reflect on what we were able to do over these many years,
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: we can take comfort in the fact that we always did good work for our customers.
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: We can also take comfort that in recent years,
- 17:13SPEAKER_00: we stayed true to our big idea,
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: which was to inspire creativity,
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: exploration,
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: and personal growth.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: Giving for the sake of giving.
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: It is possible to change our relationship with giving.
- 17:33SPEAKER_00: To do this, we must visualize the organism of our community in a different way.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: My connections from the storm grew from an already existing network of people that
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: I met through the worldwide horse community.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: Their personal stories gave me a basis of understanding that a news clip could not.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: We live in a world of editorial.
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: We need context to verify our facts.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: Stories matter.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: They contextualize the impossible and drive us into action.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: To change our relationship with giving,
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: we must allow the stories to slip into the cracks of our defensive barriers.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: We have to be prepared to get dirty.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: The mountains are still covered in dust and mud.
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: The stories emerging from the landslides aren't edited and polished.
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: These stories don't have a structure yet.
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: Their sentences strung together without fluff or context.
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: Their cries for help.
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: We must be prepared to give and have no certainty that the dollars are going to be
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: utilized in a way that makes us feel empowered.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: Giving for the sake of giving, you may receive no tangible thanks.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: Your giving provides autonomy,
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: and that equals hope to someone who has lost everything from the world before Helene.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: Economic uncertainty is as destructive as flooding,
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: and like water,
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: it trickles out and changes the world around it.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: Healing begins with the individual, but the effects ripple out.
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: On the top of the Stable Roots homepage,
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: you'll find my constantly updated list of vetted sources where you can give to
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: support the victims of Hurricane Helene.
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: And it will be showcasing a list of individuals at the top,
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: ever-changing and rotating due to need,
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: who need your help today.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: And soon,
- 19:33SPEAKER_00: the list will also be showcasing the community world changers who are daily helping
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: people find housing and car payments and trauma support.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: And if you click on the Stable Roots post for this week,
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: you'll find a list of four individuals that need your help today.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: In the coming days,
- 19:52SPEAKER_00: I will also launch an episode of my podcast,
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: Relatively Stable,
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: where I'm talking to Tamar Reno from her Bear Creek farm in Green Creek,
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: North Carolina.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: Since the early days following the storm,
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: Tamar has written words that are a balm for the mountains while broadcasting
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: stories of need,
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: aid,
- 20:12SPEAKER_00: and the people who are delivering life support to their communities.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: I hope you'll follow her words if you're not already.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: My gratitude for you is immense.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: Thank you for following my words.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: I took a break from writing about the storm for a few weeks,
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: but my hope is that you dig into the true meaning of the holiday season,
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: whatever that personally means to you,
- 20:34SPEAKER_00: and join the mountain community by caring about the region's slow march towards rebuilding.
- 20:41SPEAKER_00: This begins with relationships, and I'm so thankful for you, your support, and your time.
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: Thank you for being here with me.
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: Love, Kim