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"Mage Masters" Comic Creator/Writer Robie Fox - #146 · The Grounded Show

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  Speaker 1: What it do. We're back again, the grounded show with
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  Speaker 1: the boy Joe. You already enough back in studio, just
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  Speaker 1: finished the move I mean, bro, life as an adventure man,
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  Speaker 1: life has been life in but you know, we're back.
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  Speaker 2: There's one thing that doesn't stop is this movement. I
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  Speaker 2: think we need to elaborate a little bit on the
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  Speaker 2: feel good night facts. Can we talk about that real quick?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, we had We had the R and B
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  Speaker 1: kickback last month and of m last Thursday of every month. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it was insane. Like I'm not even exaggerating when I
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  Speaker 1: say we did ten times what they normally do on
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  Speaker 1: a Thursday. So that was really encouraging. I mean we
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  Speaker 1: started at six before seven, it was already jumping.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, feel good. Like I said, it's a great
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  Speaker 2: environment on Thursdays, Normally there's two or three people in there.
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  Speaker 2: We had at least thirty forty people in there now
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  Speaker 2: facts consistently, We're gonna keep it going. We might venture
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  Speaker 2: off and do more, maybe because R and B will
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  Speaker 2: be the last Thursday very month. Yes, sir, we might
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  Speaker 2: bring a lot of you know, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, there's definitely a lot of cool opportunities there
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Clint Man. We've been chopping it up.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a good vibe. It's rare that you find
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  Speaker 1: a space to do stuff at that. The people that
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  Speaker 1: own it and run it are so welcoming, like with
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  Speaker 1: the space and so helpful. So that's been that's that's
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  Speaker 1: been a big alley basically, like with the whole event,
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  Speaker 1: because we didn't really have to fight with anything. It
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  Speaker 1: was just yo, let us do our thing, and we
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  Speaker 1: did it. And April thirtieth, the next wedding. Yeah, R
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  Speaker 1: and B kick people already going crazy about that.
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  Speaker 2: Ninety two thousands. R and B join us April thirtieth.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see all there, sir.
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  Speaker 1: And today we got a very special guest man. I
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  Speaker 1: met this man a couple of times already before seeing
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  Speaker 1: what he's been doing. I'm tapped into his socials, everything
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  Speaker 1: he got going on. If you want to just introduce
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  Speaker 1: yourself real quick, let the people know who you are.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, yo yo yo. Robbie d Fox, comic creator, writer
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  Speaker 3: and social media creator as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, so your dad actually put you on my
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  Speaker 1: radar first with the first book that you did, The
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  Speaker 1: Cyber Man, and I saw all the movement you were
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  Speaker 1: doing with it hit and all the comic shops. I
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  Speaker 1: know you had it and actme and they ended up
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  Speaker 1: selling out. Congratulations on that, man, that's a super dope
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  Speaker 1: comic spot. And to have it there and to have
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  Speaker 1: people respond to it, that must be a dope feeling. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Out of that feel When you got that news that
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  Speaker 1: they all sold out.
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  Speaker 3: It felt pretty good. But then, of course it also
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  Speaker 3: came about when I had to print more. So I
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  Speaker 3: made it like it made it fifty pages, which something
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  Speaker 3: you shouldn't do it for the first book, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of had to, I guess stug it
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  Speaker 3: out after making it that big.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, So you've been making these comics. How many
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  Speaker 1: years hasn't been since the first one? You drop?
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  Speaker 3: It's the first one, I believe. The first one was
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  Speaker 3: so right after I graduated high school, I believe, which
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  Speaker 3: was twenty twenty three. Okay, it should be somewhere a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple months all high.
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  Speaker 3: School, Lake Brandley, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. So, something your dad was telling us that I
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  Speaker 1: thought was pretty interesting was kind of how you got
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  Speaker 1: into it in the class that you took. I'd even
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  Speaker 1: know that that kind of thing really existed. So if
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  Speaker 1: you can kind of break down a little like how
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  Speaker 1: that process was and kind of how you enjoyed it
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  Speaker 1: and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was at the comic store Blackbird, because
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  Speaker 3: they do a lot of events, so they'd be like
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  Speaker 3: posting on their socials like reading clubs and stuff. But this,
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  Speaker 3: well this was like back in the day before they
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  Speaker 3: were even called Blackbird. But one of their former employees,
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  Speaker 3: because he's gone now, he got his own comics store
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  Speaker 3: in another city. But he was basically teaching people how
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  Speaker 3: to write comics and how to make comics, the actual
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  Speaker 3: process of printing and creating, putting it to paper, which
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  Speaker 3: I did when I was like fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: This is what it's big about comics because I'm a
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  Speaker 2: big like Marvel, you know what I'm saying. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: Marvel fan. I keep up with it. But the comic
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  Speaker 2: mix really set the precedents for these stories of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of movies that are they're starting to make movies about.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you develop a really good story in a comic,
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  Speaker 2: they can take that and make a big movie off
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  Speaker 2: of it. Like there is a lot of leverage that
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  Speaker 2: you can take if you develop a good story off
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  Speaker 2: of it. So is that like how you develop your stories,
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  Speaker 2: like how do you think of what you're making?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I would like to get stuff adapted, But of
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  Speaker 3: course that isn't like the im median first concern, because
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people get caught in that trap of
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  Speaker 3: just trying to use comics as a launch pad and
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  Speaker 3: not like treating it as its own medium. But there
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  Speaker 3: are some comments to get super popular, like plenty of
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  Speaker 3: people don't know V for Vendetta was a comic adapted
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  Speaker 3: into a movie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, I didn't even know that actually.
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  Speaker 3: Was a DC.
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  Speaker 1: Actually yeah, even like a lot of people didn't know
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  Speaker 1: about like Walking Dead. You know what I'm saying that
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  Speaker 1: where they came from, and a lot of the people
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  Speaker 1: that kind of knew where the story was going was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the people that had already read it. And
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  Speaker 1: that even kind of goes into something I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to you about before we started. Aj matter of fact
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  Speaker 1: recommended Solo leveling and him and mari one of the
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  Speaker 1: last times that we were here. Mario is somebody that
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  Speaker 1: an engineer that we know, and I was kind of
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  Speaker 1: asking you about it, and you have mentioned that you
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  Speaker 1: read the manga first before actually like getting it up
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  Speaker 1: before they even made the show or whatever, and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of talk did you actually watch the show, like
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  Speaker 1: or have you watched any of it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I watched it when they came out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So how did you feel about it, like kind
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  Speaker 1: of compared to the manga and like your expectation from
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  Speaker 1: already knowing the story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was pretty cool, seemed faithful. Of course
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  Speaker 3: it did come out like a while after I actually
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  Speaker 3: read the mono, so didn't quite remember everything, but generally
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  Speaker 3: it seemed like they followed pretty similar.
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  Speaker 1: Word So, what do you kind of like feel is
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  Speaker 1: the thing that I guess, Like, what do you like
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  Speaker 1: more the comic when they adapted for the show, Like
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  Speaker 1: what do the manga is? Like? What's your main thing
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  Speaker 1: that you enjoyed consuming? Like do you like reading the mangas,
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  Speaker 1: reading comics, watching the shows? There's just kind of a
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  Speaker 1: mix of all three.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty much just a mix of all three,
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of for animes, a lot of them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't actually read the mangas because they're kind of
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  Speaker 3: direct adaptations sometimes read more a lot of the mangas
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  Speaker 3: I have read or stuff that like I read before
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  Speaker 3: they got adapted, like new stuff currently things like that nature,
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  Speaker 3: but I kind of like moll roughly the same, Like
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  Speaker 3: I kind of treat comics and manga as the same
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  Speaker 3: because they are the same to me pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And then another thing I wanted to ask you
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  Speaker 1: was like what kind of drew you to say let me?
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  Speaker 1: Let me start with the comics, because I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if maybe it was something that you read when you
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  Speaker 1: were younger, or like what kind of sparked you that
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  Speaker 1: you were like, man, I could do this.
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  Speaker 3: Well middle school and think of when I was like
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  Speaker 3: eleven or twelve. It's like when I figured out I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to write, but I didn't quite know like what
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  Speaker 3: fiel to write in. It was just the general thing
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  Speaker 3: of a writer, so I didn't know like comic writer,
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  Speaker 3: movie writers show. But then like it was that class
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  Speaker 3: in the comic store that was kind of the lynch
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  Speaker 3: pin to signify the like comic writing something I could
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  Speaker 3: actually do, like off the ground gotcha?
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  Speaker 1: So like writing was like the first thing you thought, like,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be a writer, And what kind of
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  Speaker 1: brought you to that, Like the fact that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have no limitations when you write, because I know that's
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  Speaker 1: something that I like when you write and you can
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  Speaker 1: kind of just do whatever. You don't have to. It's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily real, it's whatever you could think of, so
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  Speaker 1: you can just kind of build however you want to build.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty much just the idea of creation and
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  Speaker 3: things of that nature. Like playing a lot of Marvel
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  Speaker 3: and DC games as a kid, whenever they gave me
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  Speaker 3: like customization options, I just like to play around and
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  Speaker 3: change up the outfits. And I think that kind of
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  Speaker 3: sparked because I was like that customizing made me want
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  Speaker 3: to design my own stuff, and that led to design
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  Speaker 3: and own characters and wanted to, yeah, create your own
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  Speaker 3: world stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What uh, how do you envision? And this is something
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  Speaker 2: that I always think of with people who do comics,
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  Speaker 2: Like do you envision the illustrations as you write? How
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  Speaker 2: does that come into play?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Typically I try to, like I think a pretty
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  Speaker 3: imaginative person kind of like overactive imagination, I imagine, try and
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  Speaker 3: think of.
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  Speaker 2: All the as You're right, you already think of the
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  Speaker 2: illustrations and how it all comes into play together. Make
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  Speaker 2: sure it ties in together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to think of how it all flows and
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  Speaker 3: how it goes into countrial order things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I because, like I haven't read
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  Speaker 2: many comics as a kid. Like we talked about it,
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  Speaker 2: like you guys were super into Dragon ball Z and
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  Speaker 2: all that, and I never tapped into that, but there
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  Speaker 2: were certain ones and I was like, how did this
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  Speaker 2: all like come to fruition? Does the illustration come first
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  Speaker 2: and then the story comes after? But from what it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like is like the story ties into what you're
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  Speaker 2: already envisioning for the illustration. So that's that's a good
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  Speaker 2: thing to understand for people who just don't read mag
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  Speaker 2: mag maga like me.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So for me, something I wanted to kind
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  Speaker 1: of discuss with you is like whenever you're like reading
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  Speaker 1: comics or manga or whatever, I always feel like the
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  Speaker 1: thing that will get me most from any any story
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  Speaker 1: is like the lore. So like whatever the lore is
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  Speaker 1: for that universe, if the lore catches me, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the thing for me that I enjoyed. Like, for example,
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  Speaker 1: with Dragon ball Z, the whole thing about the sayings
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  Speaker 1: and the powers and everything, that's kind of what grabbed
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  Speaker 1: me right at the beginning, Like, Okay, the lore behind
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  Speaker 1: this and the legend of these people in here is
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  Speaker 1: kind of what makes me want to know, like what's
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  Speaker 1: you know, what's the other parts of this? How you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's part of the legend? You know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: for you? When you were watching cartoons and comic based
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  Speaker 1: things and manga and stuff, what were kind of like
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  Speaker 1: some of the things that grabbed you from certain stories
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  Speaker 1: that you were like, Oh, this this is the kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff that I want to implement in my in
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  Speaker 1: my stories.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of to you actually, in the aspect
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  Speaker 3: of lower because I always like the world building and
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  Speaker 3: character building, like those are the things to come first
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  Speaker 3: to me, because I feel like if you have like
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  Speaker 3: a really good world and really good characters, but like
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  Speaker 3: a basic plot, they can carry that a lot more
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  Speaker 3: than if you have a really good plot but like
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  Speaker 3: basic characters or a world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, because the
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  Speaker 1: world kind of like feeds itself almost so you can
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  Speaker 1: keep it going with the world. But if you only
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  Speaker 1: have it based off of like one story or one character,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to build, I would imagine, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because of that nature. It's like some like one
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  Speaker 3: piece is like my favorite anime manga because of how
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  Speaker 3: much in depth. They girl in the world building.
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  Speaker 1: How many episodes are they up to?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: They're over a thousand?
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I think they're like over eleven hundred. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Should we ask them to give us a top three,
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  Speaker 2: top five?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Definitely wanted to get into that because
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  Speaker 1: leading into that, I wanted to talk about, like when
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  Speaker 1: I was younger, one of the comics that really got
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  Speaker 1: me into like Marvel and just comics and the main
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that in general, was I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you ever read it, it's kind of older, but the
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  Speaker 1: Marvel Verse DC. I think it was four or five
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  Speaker 1: comics that they had. It was like from the nineties
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  Speaker 1: maybe like the early mid nineties, late nineties something like that,
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  Speaker 1: where they actually had like a thing where the world's
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  Speaker 1: crossed over and you saw like Superman versus Hulk, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Spider Man was in there with you know, like a
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  Speaker 1: Superboy and stuff like that. It was like a crazy
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  Speaker 1: crossover that had like all the characters and like it
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  Speaker 1: was like for me, it was crazy seeing like reading
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  Speaker 1: the pages and thinking like, oh, who's gonna win these
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  Speaker 1: battles and seeing who won the individual battles, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know that, So they had the rights. That's all it
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  Speaker 2: comes down to whoever, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well even that thing was like a big thing
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  Speaker 1: because when they agreed to do it, there was like
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  Speaker 1: rules as to like how certain things are drawn, who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna win what battle and stuff, which is also kind
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  Speaker 1: of something that happened with I don't know if you're
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  Speaker 1: familiar with who framed Roger Rabbit, the movie that got
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  Speaker 1: like Looney Tunes and Disney people in it. Disney was
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  Speaker 1: very particular they were like, hey, you can use our
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  Speaker 1: characters like this, you can only have them in certain
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  Speaker 1: scenes like this. So, like you said, when you don't
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  Speaker 1: got the rights specifically, it kind of you kind of
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  Speaker 1: run into little issues. But for me with the comics
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  Speaker 1: that Marvel Vers DC was like one of the first
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  Speaker 1: ones that really got me into and after that I
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  Speaker 1: was really big into like the Marvel comics, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. And then later on I found like
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  Speaker 1: the what If series in Marvel where it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of yeah, talked about different stuff, the zombies and everything.
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  Speaker 1: So like, what are kind of like some of the
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  Speaker 1: ones that you always check out.
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  Speaker 3: So like basically favorites and like favorites.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, either top three or top five. We don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: What you have, whichever, whatever ones that come to your mind,
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  Speaker 1: the best ones.
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  Speaker 3: The best ones. Well, I probably just give like some
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  Speaker 3: of the top ones from different I guess worlds because
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  Speaker 3: Marvel DC top ones. Yeah, let's Marvel. My favorite Marvel
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  Speaker 3: book is this book called Excalibur. Okay, it was like
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  Speaker 3: a little Spen spin off basically like a Magic X
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  Speaker 3: Men team, because you know, the X Men are pretty
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  Speaker 3: much sci fi based and I always lean towards magic
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  Speaker 3: a bit more technically, none of them were actually magicians
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  Speaker 3: on the O G team, but they were in like
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  Speaker 3: Britain because the whole EXCaliber team and dealing with stuff
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  Speaker 3: like Merlin, and they had a Captain Britain because a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people don't know Marvel has that. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the British humor and old school British stuff,
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  Speaker 3: like they would say things like walloping.
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  Speaker 1: And British slang use that slaying in there.
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  Speaker 3: Captain Britain would get punched and be like, oh that
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  Speaker 3: was a mighty fine wallop and you gave me my
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  Speaker 3: turn to return to favor.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny, man. Then, So like in d C, what
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  Speaker 1: are some of some of the ones you like, so.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite DC book as occurrence probably like Grant Morrison's
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  Speaker 3: Animal Man.
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  Speaker 1: This one is like, I haven't heard of that one.
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  Speaker 1: What was that one about?
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  Speaker 3: It's like it's really gassed up like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people to read comics, like in a lot of circles.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Animal Man's a bit more niche, so
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  Speaker 3: he's kind of like, well he's got animal powers. As
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  Speaker 3: we see the run goes, but they start getting like
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  Speaker 3: a bit meta and things of that, because I think
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  Speaker 3: this was a little bit after one of DC's reccons.
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  Speaker 3: So you had like the old Animal Man's origins and
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  Speaker 3: it was starting to interact with the new one. But
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  Speaker 3: the old one like they didn't do much with him before.
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  Speaker 3: So the guy was like really playing around and he
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  Speaker 3: towards the end ends up like even meeting the writer
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  Speaker 3: of the book. Like that's how far out?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so it gets really like breaking the fourth wall
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  Speaker 1: type of vibes there.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about redcon stuff?
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  Speaker 3: Though, Uh, well, you know, some can be good, some
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  Speaker 3: can be.
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  Speaker 2: Bad, Yeah, of course, but it's something is needed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes sometimes they need to just change some shenanigre
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  Speaker 3: I do, like, because like they.
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  Speaker 2: Got to reset the cannon of everything pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes yeah, without well wolf less, it's easier to flow
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  Speaker 3: through because Marvel has a lot less than DC. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like easier to flow through because a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people treat them the same. But like DC's reset their
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  Speaker 3: whole universe like three times, Marvel hasn't actually ever reset
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  Speaker 3: their universe.
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  Speaker 2: Between Snyder and everything that they've done. Is there anything
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  Speaker 2: you're looking forward to that's coming out as far as movies.
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  Speaker 3: As far as movies, well, pretty much just all the
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  Speaker 3: comic movies where like a Supergirl movie. Yeah on that
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  Speaker 3: because I read the book that was adapted from it,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: and yeah, that book.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about how DC has done as
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: far as the movies go, Well.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I think they're doing better now with how Gun is
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: doing because before in the Last World they were kind
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: of kind of being iffy, especially because like Flash is
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: my favorite DC character now like the only fash movie
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: we got and I was just like a travesty.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I feel like DC. The problem for
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: me with DC has always been their villains, which I
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: feel like that's why Batman is so popular because Batman
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: gives a lot of emphasis to the villains and gives it.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: There's a villains, a lot of story, so like people
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: are excited to see you know, Joker two phase.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: They and they just said Homeboy Bucky Barnes is going
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: to play two Face in Batman movie.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't know that. That's pretty dope. But
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Like the DC verse
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: versus Marvel thing, like what's your I'm pretty sure people
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: talk about that all the time.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Well, I mean I always like them the
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: same because like, in my eyes, it's like picking between
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: two children.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Two of your favorite kids.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like so I feel like I'm like
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: it's more unbiased or objective because I like certain things
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: more in certain places like Marvel. I like their their
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: magic more stuff like that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: How do you feel how they're going in like the
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: multiverse saga and everything that's coming with Doctor Doom and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the Anchor Beans and all that. How do you feel
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: But it's always like so so like some people got
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: issues with the multiverse, some final fit. It's always a
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: cool concept. Sometimes people lean too much into it. Sometimes
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: it's cool, Like I know, just in earlier this week,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Storm had a new comic drop and she was like
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: outside of the multiverse, but like it was hints that
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: she was in DC's world. Because I was reading that,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, that's outside multiverse and
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: there is this thing called like the source Wall in
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: DC's verse, and I was just like, is she in
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: d C.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: That's crazy? I got to check that out.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Even know, where can you go to like keep up
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: with like comics dropping and stuff like that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: You need things like that comics dropping, Well, I got
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: like this one app called like a uh I think
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it was called like Comic geek Scene or something like that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Might check again, but it's like and it was like
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I basically kind of subscribe to comics, but not like
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: a pay subscription, but it just like gives me notifications
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: or anything.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm reading stuff that drops whenever stuffs get.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: It up because like I don't, I don't know where
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to go to fine, like because I would like to.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I would like to find some new comics, new story
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: that drive because that's kind of what feeds into these
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: movies at the end of the day.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Watchmen graphic novels and comics
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: at all or have you checked out any of the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Watchmen stuff?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I know of The Watchmen, but I think I
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: read it I was younger, but I don't really remember
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: much anything.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for DC, that's probably my favorite DC property, the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: watch the Watchman stuff. I love like all the stories
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: they come out with about Watchmen and just the way
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they kind of like put the reality into the fantasy,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And the way they kind
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of weave it all together and how they put it
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like into like real history they kind of created.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: That's what you always told me, and I think I
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: watched like the first season I saw that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Watchmen. To me, man, I love Watchman. It's
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: like my favorite DC property. I enjoyed that a lot.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I like the movie, the comics, the show that they
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: dropped on HBO. Max Wife, you watched it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: She always tried to get me to finish it, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I never do because I don't do things. But I'm
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: gonna I think I'm gonna put that on my list because,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like you said, like, I'm a real big story guy.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: If the story aligns and it makes sense. I love
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: that kind of televison and shows.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So it's great writing in there. Man. That's something for
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: sure I would recommend to anybody, even if you don't
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: like comics. I feel like Watchmen is a really good
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: one to kind of like get your feet wet, because,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like I said, it has that like reality kind of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: stuff in it, like.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: The history of the United States and all that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And well, the writer or the Watchman, I mean, he
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: is really esteemed because like he did a couple of
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: books that are like super big DC because it it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: this guy Alan Moore. And he did some swamping stuff,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: like he did Swamp Thing's most popular story, which introduced Constantine.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: If you know Constantine at all, So yeah, it was
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: his Swamp Things run where Constantine was first introduced, and
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: then you know, he got his own series after that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: And then he also did v for Vendetta.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Oh he was the one that did it too. Okay,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so he didn't watch Nice then I didn't.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that to watch any of these either.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: You have seen.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: That movie is I've always heard about it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I've seen the memes and seen the stories, but I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: have not.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: That's that's a super enjoyable one. And that and it
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: makes sense that he wrote that one too, because I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: can see it. I can see like the themes and everything.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It definitely makes sense.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, talk about this.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I was about to say that. I got
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to talk to us. I actually got into read the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: first couple of pages when you brought it today and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: kind of see how you're, like, like we were talking
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: about with the lore, Like in the beginning, you're establishing
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: kind of like the mages, the mage masters, kind of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: like where they rank in society, Who's who's Like you're
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: kind of setting it up really really well in like
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the first couple of pages. So I just kind of
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: want you to break down the story a little bit.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what when did this light
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: bulb click for you?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Well, this click the right when I This was like
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: my first manga concept actually, which is why because I
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: got like a whole bunch of the dress. But this
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: was like right after I started getting into one piece.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: So because of that, the verse is like really expansive
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: because I started getting into world building and premises that
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: like God never separated like Heaven their Hell or all
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: those areas, so it's just one big land mass where
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: you got humans, angels, demons, god, spirits, like you could.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Just take that's a dope idea, bro, Like that is.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Vacation and like Olympus for example, Like you could just
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Elope there, Honeyboone there.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: That's that, And that's what I'm saying that creativity. It's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: just it's just good to describe because there's a lot
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: of people out there who want to do stuff like this,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like when you
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: think of the stuff like this, you need to just
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: put it on some kind of So where did you start?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Where was the first platform or first piece of paper?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Where where did you write it down the first time?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I just rolle down like Google Docs. That's usually where
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I like be putting stuff down. Just have all sorts
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: of drafts or files in Google.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Docs nice, and then you can access that anywhere. So
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it's super clutch. Yeah, so you could you you kind
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: of broke down the world a little bit. Let's talk
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: about like the characters on the cover and kind of
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like their stories a little bit and how you kind
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of got to creating them.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, the main character, he's the blue hair kid, Alicio,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Hispanic and stuff. So he's like born with this black
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: mark that kind of caused him a lot of pain.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: So you know, don't know, well, I know what the
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: black mark is but you know that'd be a spoiler.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But like a mage master comes and just fixes his
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: black mark like it's nothing. He's just like and there
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you go. And like he grew up no doctors or
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: nothing could help with it. So he's just amazed that
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: a mage master could do that, and that's just influencing
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: him to want to be one.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the major master that he met is it
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is that this the other character on here.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: No, because the other character is his best friend, his
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: best friend. Okay, this guy is he's horror too, because
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I know I got a review for this the reviewer
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I thought his name was Naruto' it's an h basically,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: but he's descended from like Leo of the Constellations, because
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: this world, the twelve Constellations are like basically the World Council.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: They're like twelve high kings and queens, so like each
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: of them are like super strong. Themn along with the
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: seven Deadly Sins because the guy that cured Alicio's mark
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: was one of the seven Deadly Sins, so those twelve
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: and six of the Sins. Because Pride doesn't have any kids,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: people don't know who Pride is. He's a mystery man.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You got you got I ever heard one, man, Bro,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: if you explained that in like a couple of sentences
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and you got that much, Bro, I can't even imagine
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: what the rest of the book is.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Like, Bro, that's crazy. No, that's dope. Like you got
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it tied in really, like you said, you're creating the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: world that everything ties into.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: That is that is very very And I'm guessing you
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: have like more plans with this series to drop more
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: stuff or.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely would like more plans though of course this
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: is a pilot because you know that it has so
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: much plans that won't be to like actually fund or
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: produce because of how long it would go. Yeah, things
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: of that nature, Like I thought of, like, because to
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: become a mage master in the world, you need to
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: complete like twelve tasks, Like each of those would be
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: an arc in this world, would be an arc in
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: the story, each of the twelve tasks.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Wow. Man. So so to back it up a little bit,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I know that the first one you drop with Cyberman,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and your dad was saying that the first prototype that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you did at the class was also Cyberman as well.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: So if you want to, if you can break down
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that character a little bit, or a little bit the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: story behind Cyberman, because that was the one that you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: actually had in a lot of the comic shops. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that's kind of like how I learned about you more
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was through your like pushing of the Cyberman character, you
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, and the book and everything.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well he was like the first character draft
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I ever made, which is why I wanted him to
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: be my book.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but when you say ever made,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: like from when you were younger, like like middle school.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Even like you had him, Yeah pretty much.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool, so keep going on.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: You get a different name back then, but you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: changed and evolved because back then, I feel like a
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: lot of my stuff was kind of just blatant ripoffs
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: before like high schools, where I started looking at my
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: middle school viles and being like, they don't really have
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: much substance and started like growing them up. But he
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: was like back then I was a lot more inclined
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: to sci fi stuff then, I guess magic, So he
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: was I guess iron Man inspired. As you could tell
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: with the suit, I wanted to I just flip the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: whole billionaire things. So his riches are essentially a curse
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: because his story, his mom is basically trying to groom
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: him to be a mafioso because she's like a mafia
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: boss with all her riches, and he rebels, which is
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: what leads him to build his suit and things of
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that nature.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Nice. Man, that's crazy. Give me one second, real quick. Cool.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I'm not gonna lie. Man, I'm super
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: impressed with I mean, it's crazy because I talked about
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: how the lore is like the thing that really grabs
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: me as far as like the stories with these comics
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and everything, and the way you've thought of like all
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the layers of of the world and the way one
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of the things you mentioned was like kind of like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the I forgot exactly what you mentioned, but like the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: twelve was the twelfth task.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: The sevenths and the constellations.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So you said something about some tasks or some things
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you have to do.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like, oh, the constellations are the ones that
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: like knight you, so you have to go and do
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a task for each of them to get knighted. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: if you get knighted about a twelve that's how you
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: become a mage master.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because like even that part of it is like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it's not only it's not only the world and the characters,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but it's also like the things you have to do
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: in that world, And like the way you got this
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: all mapped out, bro, Like this is definitely something that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you got to keep expanding on, you know what I mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Like you said, it's twelve twelve constellations, each one of
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: them has the task. So there's just soul.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Stylish saying like, yeah, exactly, you're establishing layers that you
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: can keep expanding on to keep this thing going. That's
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that's a good way to That's a foundation.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: The Maine Masters one. Is this something that you're trying
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to also get into the comic book shops and stuff
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you're moving around with this one?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Or yeah, well also, well got it into one store
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: so far, haven't put it into two too many because
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I was going through like a tour doing a bunch
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: of shows. But like the first store, Blackbird that I
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: did it at, gave them some copies because that was
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the premiere, so already in there.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Nice. And then as far as like the events that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you'd be going to, you just go to all the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: comic book conventions and expos and stuff like that and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: just kind of get your name out there. Is that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like kind of how you're going about it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much try and do that, whether I'm like
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: and a table up there or just going around looking around.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I got to go to Mega Con earlier this year
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: because my friends got me a ticket and even got
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: to like give a copy of one of my books
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: to some of the bigger name creators in there.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: That's fire Man man. Honestly, Bro, I really appreciate you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: coming by and talking about it. I really I'm really
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: interested in the story and the whole universe you have said.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna finish reading this, and I'm hoping that
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you got more and more coming from this. Man. I know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I know it might be a little while, but definitely
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: keep going with this story.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Bro, There's a lot of so let's have you back,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: keep us posted on your progress of what you're doing
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and how your story is transitioning and how you developed.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Before we go, before the thing crashed, we were talking
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: about Cyberman the story about let's wrap that up real
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: quick and then and then we can kind of like
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: wrap it up.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm pretty sure I kind of finished just about
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: his story from what I did earlier. His whole the
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: whole recap was his mom was a mafia boss and
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: she's trying to groom him to be a mafioso. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: he kind of builds his suit to rebel. The student
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: is pretty much an act of rebellion, I guess you
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: could say, to take charge of his own life.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, did you watch Ironheart? Yeah?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Did you like it?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I mean it was it was all right, it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Is all right. The ending, Yeah, and they left it open,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and they left it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Open like seeing the fisto because he's like.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't know if she agreed
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to the terms or not.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So well, So, what are some of the next things
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you got coming up with this book? And just in
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: general before we before we wrap up, we.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Don't get any real plans for this book. Obviously got
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: some of the stories figured out, but like no real
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: pen to paper or I guess pen the page for
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the actual drawing out. I do good. Like my fourth
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: book was technically already done because it finished actually before
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: this one, even though I planned this one to be
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: my third, So I was just like waiting, after all
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the stuff from this one dies down to drop my
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: fourth one.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So night, So you kind of already got that one
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: in the in the can, kind of ready to go
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: once you're kind of done working this one and getting
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: people to check this one out?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fire man, Where where can people find your your stuff? So?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I got a website Fox Island dot Card of two
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: hours dot co. So it's got like all my socials
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and links to my books digitally and things of that nature.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And we'll throw it in the link for the web
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: for the episode and we'll make sure we share it
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: on the social unity so people can check it out.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Super dope man. One of the reasons I wanted to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: have you on is because I don't even really know
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: anybody that's doing comics locally, you know what I mean.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: So it's cool to meet somebody that's in it, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you've been in it and active for a while now,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Like it's not like it's just something you said, oh
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: let me try this, and you're just kind of half
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: asked in or whatever. Like you actually took your time.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: You got these crazy stories that are super dope. So
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what comes next.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming by, Appreciate you, and thank
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you for having me. Yes, sir, man, and you already
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: know stay Stay, but