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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts listen
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to it on radio train topic. Our President was born in Argentina, Dr
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Rabiero Mirey was chairing Hello. To all there is no stabilization plan, not
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good, but the delay to change. There' s a problem of currency
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arrears here. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty-
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four thousand. Good. It' s very little speck. Raya, there
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' s a lot of Ecuador, but you' re not liberal. There
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were taxes on the province. No, but if he knew one more three
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hundred sixty- five times and gave me three sixty s he can' t
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last. If there' s no video and you didn' t invite me
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to Federo, you Fideo Cotuk. They want to know how the economy is
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going to grow, it' s going to go up like fart bus,
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but there' s no anchor. Well, because there' s no comprehensive
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plan. But you should set the path. This is not a liberal government
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because it did not release the drug. Not because there' s appreciation changed.
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I have appreciation, change you but the freedom fuck how about friends,
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very but very good afternoon that luxury luy that puts us in Don Juan the
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beginning. The President is not the President in which he has to run video
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of the most excellent faults Gino Javier and Ley is the intergalactic leader. It
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' s up to Chico, because Argentina' s how we live in times
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of cruelty. To a large extent, Mercedes what I always class and do
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not like politicians to tell them the political class called" Ula Casas",
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which did not make it up to my law, the Spanish Left Party.
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We can, for example, speak of Spanish sasta and even Spanish politics.
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Let' s leave this you with peyr One between a very similar morning good
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economic debate of crosses of eyes more than half hours were forty minutes between Fairú,
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a Monteverde, Monteverde of Peru. Here tomorrow, in rural construction,
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we debate different economic perspectives, we generate a new debate. So much we
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do and I say we talk about it with Peribro' s example. Recently.
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The caste is only political. I mean, no one talks about showing
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her a little bit about the pichetera, the union, but the business,
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the journalist. We have nothing to do with it. Non Argentina. It
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' s a general leadership problem. It' s not just a political-
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class issue. But, today the only ones who are subdued and well they
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are the politicians and the ones we should choose a less milay, that does
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not come down from a flying dish. That comes from the bottom up society,
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which is what society is extremist. Peria at that moment contino more.
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The other candidate was nothing less than more. It was fought against, I
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mean, it wasn' t a Superman versus an enemy arche. This was
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what I said at one point the French are against Draculas more or less that
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I chose between miles and masses. I refrained from choosing them. Once again
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in a presidential I saw I felt it was the obligation to pot blank.
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But, well, don' t get this millay, which is a bit
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like I say the era of cruelty. The President asked him the theory.
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Well, there are people who don' t come to the end of meme
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and didn' t come to the end of mind, they' ll be
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dead. He said it. He did not say this beast, but good
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with all respect that disowns us and that now he suffered a new variant in
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the Cabinet one more because he has a manga of improvisations. It is not
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the case of Francos, who is pure caste, but better and it is
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a good message, is that Francos now serves as chief of staff, because
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articura manages with the political class. And that' s good, in short,
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and it' s a bit of a recognition in the Millakes situation,
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that breaking everything isn' t welcome to that, good for that reading of
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neither LII. But I' m saying we' ve got a hairy Velo
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that' s all over the work. With hunger, hunger kills hunger.
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With hunger, social movements are not at stake. Whatever the leader was,
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it' s poverty managers, whatever they want to call him with all the
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shelter that that can generate. Let' s say that there are millions of
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undelivered foods, that a bilde excuse is used, that it' s not
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for some fortuitous fact is out flooding, a tornado when there are people,
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there' s some intent I don' t remember where I read for these
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hours that you asked for. He asked her for tight food aid. He
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didn' t give him this issue that he didn' t give himself up
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because there' s inefficient and infidelity goes with cruelty. There is also the
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issue of medicines. While corruption is seen and separated, welcome be this,
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and the harshest criticism. I reiterate the poverty managers. It is true that
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food cannot be stopped, drugs cannot be stopped for those terminally ill people who
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are required or medication. Okay. This is the time of cruelty in the
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midst of the impunity of the children, for example, that also wins tt
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of impunity Cristina Kis when some mileistas or believe in the militancy that goes to
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someone Kana, Cristina says Cristina Fernández more since she will have to rest Mixilar
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at best. I' m telling you, there' s a sort of
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imponity between Mileism Miley and the Kitners, and that' s where you see
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the topic of candidacy. The son who will support Kismerism in the Senate,
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who will support this touch light is so critical, but he is also part
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of the house and in this he will support an unpresentable and nothing crystalline like
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the judge who were sons and ornance to the cork. Well, there we
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see that pact of impunity, which is the book of the nation, and
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the nation which is what serious journalism, is an ideological, right- wing
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look, but it would be rational, republican, with everything that everyone doesn
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' t count on. A nation, but it has and has journalists from
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Juster Martín Rodríguez, Debra, Jorge Vio, not to mention lens feathers and
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very balanced, very subjective, very good look, well if you mark it
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in the niterial of the Pact of impunity, Ilic in the thing. Okay.
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Meanwhile, the dollar is restless. He touched the thousand three hundred last
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week the moms that took for one thousand two eighty. If I' m
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not mistaken for Thursday twenty- four was then twenty- three last Thursday.
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Today it remains relevant, as yesterday thousand and two hundred and ten I had
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going down there you go down to one thousand and one hundred and seventy,
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if I am not mistaken at some point of the wheel of operations, or
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there was also one thousand and one hundred and ninety, it recovers it and
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slightly exceeds one thousand and two hundred and five. I think, if I
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' m not mistaken, polycra yesterday, but well, the thousand three hundred
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was a big one. In fact, Eschs played one thousand three hundred and
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there is this stag apparently around the one thousand two hundred, as if counted
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with the like equal one thousand two hundred thirty- seven. The thousand two
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hundred and two month, the risk country one thousand four hundred and sixteen,
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which is falling by two points. Almost one thousand four hundred and forty how
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many fifty who played and well, there we have with the economy, with
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the data of fifty- five percent of the poverty in the government. As
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I say in the area of cruelty, where Miley travels and travels within the
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country, little and nothing to countries of the Nioblar Merroon Brazil. Crini left
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with our Argentine nothing and this one continues fourth days of the United States.
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The infobada title. This is my law now. He arrived in San Francisco
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to meet with tech entrepreneurs and propose the country as a pole of artificial intelligence.
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In a second he comes to greet our first guest meeting between Villarruel,
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Franks and the dialogists with photo after a desalunum of cabinet in a Buenos Aires
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confectionery. What makes me this now the most pleasant nation. Yes, with
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15 degrees of sunshine. Nothing to see that these last days, since Friday
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Sunday cloudy a little rain and no more than ten eleven or twelve degrees,
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was fifteen and consol. It is quite amongst all in an advance of winter
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in this May that is the yearning, et cetera, et cetera, et
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cetera. Mike Tyson' s 26th Channel had to be treated urgently after a
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flight to Los Angeles. Report that news that says this advance law base ends
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the moratorium. He had a juilado se with croni CTV of five n is
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with the break with canon les in the key of the gross changes in the
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abieta Bueno Francos and Ley does not understand politics, but understands politics. You
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don' t understand anything. Twenty- four deliveries a lifetime for a pizza,
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the risk of working. There were some incidents, precisely of some claimants
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of some activity on the subject Robot Messi Direct Hollywood participated in the trailer of
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Bad Boytes Four, which must be a film. If I see him,
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he says, have a good time. I don' t have a Julio
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Burman line, CEOP' s headline, the political consultant. It' s
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Forgiveness to Julio Bor for Tito Bagma the custom of taking out Burma' s
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law. Tito, Good afternoon, Fernando, hello, how are you doing?
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Good afternoon well, sorry. The Good game read page two over the
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weekend and one. The truth is imbued with numbers on one side, on
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the other. You have forty- six percent citizens who see my law well
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or very well. In terms of personal image. If I' m not
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mistaken with fifty- four percent, who thinks bad, very bad about him.
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It' s like that, yeah, yeah, that' s what
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he' s giving in this last fieldwork. It had grown last month from
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the image, which was also forty- six percent of the previous month grew
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forty- eight And this same one that went down to forty- six and
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is there, is between forty and forty- six and forty- eight.
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Forty- five was the worst edition it had since March and the disapproval of
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the image is fifty- four. This fact, as well as how the
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election is finished. Not style. It' s really stuck in there because
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it' s like it' s got a hard core of thirty percent.
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This hard core is what they say has a very positive image of Javier Miley.
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It is those who are the hard core of Javier Miley, those who
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voted in peace or what rum in the first round and those who also went
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to vote in the balloting. To them is added the periphery that has my
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law today, that they were voters especially of the pro that they were no
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longer together for the change in that barotal and that many of them have already
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been lost. For the proto. He has a serious problem when in that
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same poll you ask about party self- conscription he has more sympathizers, freedom
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advances, pro not much, but he has something else and it is something
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the truth that is a very particular phenomenon. The pro has a life that
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began in the year of two thousand two, say, and electorally in the
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year two thousand five but that really a party two years old or two and
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a half years now generates that my law meant a phenomenon for Argentine society.
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Now, when you continue to analyze the image and see that it is growing
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in the regular positive category, that shows bullet bulbs starting to enter Miller and
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with respect to how long you can expect is the conclusion. And there,
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among those three positive categories, is where many polls give him a little less
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in our unleadedness, none more than ours give him some that I wanted to
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ask him. That went to the second question, not to run away or
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to be a name. Why we see so much diversity. One of the
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names I make, I don' t expect you to identify a lot less.
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He talks to me together. Each one sees loggia facts, the Polyarchy,
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the Aurelius, which have fifty- five to fifty- eight positive image
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of the President. Not the management they' ve always been. No.
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No, no, not the leura or they use another methodology. Or,
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well, I can' t talk about that. No. No, no,
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no, but I say good. But you' re in the middle
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of it and I say no. I want you to make no names.
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No. No. It' s not what I see that I' m
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told by someone who gives you fifty- two, fifty- three and usually
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there are different metrologies. The accounts are wrong. There is a lot of
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operation with this topic when we talk about image, because the image that has
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no proof is not true. It' s like asking people what Champusa is.
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It' s very difficult after checking this one. If people lied,
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she passed on, when she answered the image, this depends on how they
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look at it, it depends on how they do it. I don'
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t think he' s fifty- two. It' s like nothing happened
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in Argentina in these five months. We can discuss whether he' s forty
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- six, forty- eight little fifty- two. That' s how
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much I apologize. The rest don' t shut me down. Not maybe
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a little bit to be consensual, because it' s always that when I
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talk to friends and I tell them less we' re my little girl,
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let' s say some that' s the scenario. I call it a
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popularized scenario journalistically installed the word crack. Today is a rift because Argentina is
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very divided. There are very few independents. It' s like Argentina right
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now has no room for lukewarmness is with Miley, because he' s against
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Mille. This also happened with what they explain, as they have conscience,
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gave this polarization also in terms of society, not with mccree. There was
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never so much polarization. There was more middle ground. Christian Macri did what
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my law did and just the most. I remember. So when he wanted
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to adjust the electric rates and the minister at the time talked about what it
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was, it was two more pizzas, not the two bigger dicks more.
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Then he had to take them down decibel. Macri was a government of promises.
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This is going to change or green shoots, etcetera, etcetera. Villa
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and positioned herself in another way. He departed from a truth that was I
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promise you nothing, He does not promise you a garden of roses, not
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and a path. This is a way of Espinas and what we have to
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do. This is going to take place with a lot of suffering and we
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have to know how to wait for this to come to a good result.
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That' s why it still has what for us forty- six percent positive
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image for the things that happened in Argentina. I understand it' s a
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high image. This means that he still has a lot of fidelity and this
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gives him Pla Fon to continue with his project with Cristina Fernández. Yes,
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this polarization was certainly recorded, more or less with Cristina this polarization was always
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recorded, which was said to be a phenomenon that occurred in Argentina since a
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situation is not similar to what happens today. But this story is not repeated.
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But yes, this sign was called the management letter, especially the two
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steps, because this happened when Cristina was passing through the one hundred days of
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management, which was the one hundred twenty- five, not that divided society,
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which popularized society. And I think that from that, from that experience,
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from the one hundred and twenty- five, well, rignerism could continue
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to grow and it did. No Cristina was able to win the second elections
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with fifty- four percent of the Augusts, but that marked a Cristina who
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came to have sixty- five percent positive image and then working, but always
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with a lot of polarization. Cristina had virtually no average terms or had most
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of them very positive or most of them very negative. Not there was so
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little room for the mediatists. Well, that' s what you said It
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' s a little bit. My question not until when can that part of
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society wait. Some Uyan colleagues speak more than of support, of expectation,
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of favorable hope even when there is an answer for that discipline. There is
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an answer that there are two segments. There' s the polarization. So
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let' s say being doesn' t have that much level of detention.
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There is a segment that is the one that says about forty percent, that
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are those who support Javier Miley to an extreme and they say you have to
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expect what is necessary, and another almost forty percent, that are those who
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are on the sidewalk opposite, that they say that this is not found in
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another day because it is unsustainable, unbearable, this, this jusque that is
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carrying out this government in the middle is about twenty percent, which are those
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that already set a date for it. From them. Half of ten percent
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give him between one and three months and the other half gives him more time
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from three months to a year. I mean, there are already some who
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are beginning to lose patience. And this is also noticeable when I told him
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that in the image this regular positive, he was growing quite to my law
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in the last two or three months. That' s how this one goes.
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Those are the ones that are most peripheral and good and those that come
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out give three months, which is ten percent of the population that supports it
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and gives it three months, three months more than one three months. Okay.
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That' s with a lot of economic problems. Ninety percent of Argentines
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have certain difficulties in reaching patiently and not having to take care of themselves at
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night and in the middle. There are those who must stop using handcuffs in
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order to arrive. In my intention, that is the structural situation that Argentines
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are going through today. We' re here in rural construction. They speak
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with Tito Bagman, director of SEO. I am also surprised by that forty
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percent that you said Tito is extremely supportive and that you have to wait for
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what is necessary. And there' s a little bit of the pro you
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were talking about. This pro in trouble too and ended up showing the citizen,
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the voter in general not Peronist, that in the end he did not
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like him so much to run to the center of the pro. The almost
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social- democratic flags that shared sometimes had to be benched together for change prime
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anti- peronism, anti- tierism, because I tell the truth that yes
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and it is not the only cost that marks it. But I say that
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the absorption that freedom has made advances from sympathetic voter of what was the pro
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not together for change, but the pro amazement does not say if today I
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say fast. You confirmed this to me. One arrives on the street in
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front, peronita or not voting, but nita, today I don' t
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know. Eighty percent absorb it. Freedom advances and the pro stays with a
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plus minus thirty percent. Not about that and exactly good. There this one
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had to see this the end of the east more of a tente. But
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let' s say together for the change, for one by a decision practically
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of the pro to approach Javier Miley after the election result of the general elections.
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This destroyed freedom van also converted to radical civic union. He brought it
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into a new crisis, because he loved it today because the one that c
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is quite divided and the radical styles that are already directly outside of radical unionism
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are closer to Peronism. I mean, there' s a very particular phenomenon
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going on there. But the proke don in the middle and lost position Macri,
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which was that the one who handed him that Millay silver bridge so that
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he could win the elections, because the presence of Matri guaranteed that everything constant
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of Patricia or a Rich will abort my Blay without fear. There were many
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who were afraid to vote Millay for his image because of his deruptive characteristic.
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But when more than he made that deal of those twelve points supposedly agreed,
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no one knows very well what happened in that Akasuso Pact when the most good
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cricket was at that time with Panrisa burg I am very much for that.
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I think the one who dispositioned the most is the protan, just as if
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that was as much as you were, as you Lee let' s say
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you needed that boot, Macri' s impulse. Macri mischarged. Then he
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had a bad bill. No, because I say no with no picked up.
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He didn' t charge. No, yes, of course not directly.
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He didn' t charge. It didn' t charge. There was
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very little he could name because Patricia Burgrich and Luis Petri are in the cabinet.
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By Patricia Burgen, let' s say the personals, he reunited with
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her Luis Pindri, and what charged magrib Nothing black turce that was working with
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Patricia bu left he grabbed all that papet of the pass that he had prepared
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for the Patricia bul who gave it to him on a tray. Like,
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play fucking not even talk everything touches point, well, to, touches point
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and I yours because it came before, it didn' t come face to
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face. Remember and remember that Macri ended badly when the Monetary Fund came out.
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I didn' t even want to see a caputo, because good and
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good was the serial player. Let' s say the whole history of leli
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bag first those of Vik, then the carry Drade that was made that of
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the Government of Madrid. He ate a loan from the International Monetary Fund.
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Let' s say most of the loan was ate by this final maneuver.
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You' re a financial manoeuvring. Well in the government says it' s
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amazing, that it' s a change of era, that people, that
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people support it worth asking you for everything. I when of course you care
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about thirty percent, because we talk about the variable Peronism, you peronism worrying
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there not true, because in that thirty percent there is a lot of journalist
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voter, planist voter of low social level, peronist voter of with jobs this
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of low institutional quality, that has no type, of they are in black,
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they work in conditions with perrimas and are and are angry, disillusioned of
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Peronism and voted for my especially young law not, especially young and men.
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It' s that voter' s profile and it' s pretty. I
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don' t know if going back to Peronism like going back to Peronism,
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but somehow? Does he appeal? Did you appeal to perionism? Did you
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appeal to Peronism? What' s that? What? What? This conditioned
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in some way in the year two thousand twenty- one, when he did
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not go to vote, when the no vote was an alarm signal for Peronism,
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which lost the election with this with a very low percentage, but that
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the one who won it, which was at that time together, for the
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change, won it forty, with forty percent, which was the same percentage
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that he took out when he lost to Alberto Fernández in the nineteen. Then
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this already showed a crisis there the chronicle, an actress, of course,
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a crisis of government, of the ruling coalition at that time that was in
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front of everyone, but it was also showing a crisis together, pre-
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change, had not the ability to take advantage of that opportunity, that there
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were already people who were very angry and neither had much desire to go to
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vote together for the change, and when it appeared nor read it lost them.
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And today they have my laws more sympathetic. It is that the pro
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that is a very particular phenomenon of Argentine politics. How do you think and
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to what extent is the bilegrandterna that this bar organizes the I don' t
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know what you call the gignerism Peronism, which is bigger than the one that
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the quisnerismo entered to good other aspects alliances of your philophoneventually with a nacho tower
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is a court. You can put together a broad front, not in the
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face of legislation on which it comes, but three years, which the silver
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talk of Argentina here three years there is how to speak in Switzerland two thousand
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fifty was complicated, but I say how. I think you can rearm that
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space somehow. It was going through, let' s say what can come.
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On that side, Peronism is facing a very particular situation, after the
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defeat, which was the defeat of not only a candidate of Sergio Masa,
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but it was the defeat of the idea of a coalition front that in the
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year two thousand nineteen, along with all the aspects that Peronism had, let
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' s say Balkanized in the process of first with Néstor Chismes, then with
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Cristina Fernández. And it did this well, Cristina also with her decision Alberto
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Fernández, bringing together the renovating front, bringing together the governors. He couldn
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' t make it. He was his target. He couldn' t make
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any progress there. While Cristina randazo was there, she didn' t want
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to know anything about that disappointment. This is what, in some way,
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is defeated is Peronism, and Peronism is faced with a great challenge that has
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to be overcome, it has to get new leaders and there has to be
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someone who can represent it, something like the coffee was eighty- seven that
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could gather the Peronist renewal. You remember at that time a chronicle grating.
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Felipe Sola, the Galician jack of Chupete, Manzano, ChachoÁlvarez Germana Atlala,
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pictures of young people who represented a new but very good child and then
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good, is fine. Then came the menemism ate almost all those paintings,
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but somehow Peronism could return to power this Convent in the year eighty- nine
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Acá, but it will not have to do anything similar. The whole last
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Pionist Congress needs to be reconsidered. Not even the chroniclers really liked it.
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No. No, no. It seems to me that reality exists otherwise.
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People are looking for something else. Miley' s campaign was successful when those
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of the caste that Argentina returns to the same things, because they are always
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the same. The difference is that Miley finally did, too. This is
27:47
seen in the survey. It is also part of the house, without any
27:52
doubt, because those who are are today name last night. Well, you
27:57
' re not as a boss walking Guillermo Franco is a conciliatory man who does
28:04
a lot of politics, everything you want. But it' s part of
28:07
the caste. Part of the caste. It worked to govern et cetera.
28:14
Trzenegger, it' s part of the caste. Daniel Cholin, who is
28:17
now Secretary of Tourism and Sport, is part of the caste. Toto Caputo,
28:22
who was a Macri official, is also part of the caste. Patricia
28:27
Bublich is part of the house. He attacked her as part of the House
28:33
during his campaign. Then be careful with this. But now the communication system,
28:40
which is very good, is being implemented, because it is correcting errors
28:45
that were made in the government of Mauricio Macris by the Durán Barba team that
28:49
manages it. Santiago Capunto, who was part of that team, knows those
28:56
mistakes and is not using them and takes advantage of Miley' s disruptive figure
29:04
to install things and cover up when situations need to be covered. Milek comes
29:11
out without any problem, to say, there is a very distracting system.
29:15
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
29:18
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
29:18
no, no, no, no, no, no. You guys notice
29:18
that you are now. In the middle of all this, they appoint him
29:22
minister and he leaves today, he presents himself as head of enabler He is
29:26
appointed, he is nominated on a television show today because he has to take
29:33
oath. Then the other also resigned, but so far Guillermo Francos is ministry.
29:47
But, well, now this was Miley' s part of the house.
29:52
I agree now for the people, for that medium that part of the
29:59
caste. People are not part of the caste. No. My law is
30:03
disruptive. My law is different. In my law it' s something else.
30:07
That' s what' s holding him up and every time he shows
30:11
up with what we could call ourselves. I call it a charpaster, more
30:14
than a president' s talk, which was the talks that gave him a
30:18
lot of success there. When the panelist jumped to a speaker, let'
30:23
s say not that he attacked, that he went against all logic, that
30:30
he is not doing the same thing to Spain, to an east, to
30:36
a congress of a party that of the last election pulled out the 4%
30:41
box extreme right, that is in decline in Spain, that does not bring
30:45
him anything. However, a statement provided him with what he needed to put
30:49
in a diversionary maneuver and be able to continue negotiating without having to and arrive
30:56
at the May Pact. Knowing that I believe today, but this I say
31:02
by analysis and not by information. If Guillermo Francos agrees to head office in
31:10
Gabon. It' s because let' s say the joyous base would be
31:15
almost closed. I don' t know what' s going to stay on
31:19
the road, in the inkwell, what' s going to happen to lectures,
31:23
what' s going to happen to the riggy, who' s the
31:27
most fucked up, what' s going to happen to extraordinary faculties. But
31:30
that' s going to come out the basic law, the fiscal chapter.
31:37
I' m sure he' s going out in general and we' ll
31:40
have to see later. It' s good for you, and there'
31:44
s all the realignment in politics. He just said that he had a meeting
31:48
with the Vice- President with the so- called Block Dialoguita, which I
31:52
think we have reached consensus. Francos just said it, place with these crazy
31:55
moons if they hadn' t made us Chief Cabinet Francos, it' s
31:59
an award that receives features Franco delivered to the enemy' s head, cut
32:05
into a pica and a silver tray. For how much there is of the
32:13
vote to my law in economic matters and how much there is in term of
32:17
good, this cultural battle, prgo terms is seen against politics, against corruption,
32:22
etcetera, etcetera. How much and how much? Let' s say
32:25
how much and how much not. I think it' s a package that.
32:30
People were very tired of traditional politics. People were so tired of promises.
32:37
People were very tired of this psychic history of Argentina, which was a
32:43
period of bonanza and more period of suffering than of bonanza. This cyclical history,
32:52
which has nothing to do with it, was not the return of democracy.
32:54
I believe Argentina, since the 1930s. From now on, the world
33:00
began to change and an agro- exporting country like Argentina no longer had any
33:05
place in the world, but did something, but industrialized and changed the profile
33:13
that allowed it to grow to one thousand nine hundred and thirty. But I
33:16
believe that at this moment Argentina is in a very important hinge of its history,
33:22
because we will have to see if this is the model that Argentina needs.
33:28
We know from experience that neoliberal models never spilled into Argentina. Like they
33:34
say they' re going to. Argentina needs a State that controls the Rigg
33:40
It goes against all this reality. It is even rejected by the entrepreneurs themselves
33:49
who make up the Argentine red circle and even the American Chamber of Commerce is
33:53
rejecting it. That' s why I' m saying this model of Milay
33:58
that the people did. I think people wedding a hope. Here' s
34:00
the thing I' d call it that. The people had a hope that
34:07
the economy would get better and that they would be able to live more calmly.
34:10
Many who can remember it because their parents told them or because their grandparents
34:15
told them, want to live in peace, as they lived the sweet years
34:22
of convertibility. Indeed, the dollar varies a weight that it had not run
34:28
to change and that not of them it was unexpected that there were despondents and
34:31
the convertibility could not be sustained. And, well, then they started to
34:37
see the problems of convertibility, insecurity, which grew remarkably, social exclusion,
34:42
job loss again made a new cycle and again start again with friction and then
34:47
fall back. So I think people looked for a way out in different boys.
34:58
This presents us with a different thing because the economy does not know.
35:02
They hope he' s right and they want him to be right. And
35:09
so they voted it and so they voted it. And of course you informed
35:14
her, as we understood whether or not to keep her. Let' s
35:17
say because it' s not inclusive when everyone with everything one can reproach Peronism
35:22
and so on. But we agree that this is not going to happen in
35:24
the long run. Let' s just say it' s not sense.
35:25
Not sure, here' s the thing. That' s why they'
35:30
re starting to show up. That' s why I' m telling you
35:31
there' s 20 percent of them starting to say good. I already give
35:35
you three months, another three to six months already begin to appear. This
35:39
thing that the puppy is true, tells me and there are others that keep
35:44
raising. Not the javiso he said. We worked very, very hard between
35:50
the months of February, March, April, even with very young people,
35:54
and we stopped this kind of thing. This was like they voted for Milay
36:01
because there was nothing left to vote for. It was as if in Argentina
36:06
it was going to remain more of the same, and my law meant the
36:09
possibility of breaking with that equation that Argentina always fell. And they believed in
36:15
it, and believed as Milane said, and believed in the caste, and
36:21
believed in the chainsaw. That' s good. Now they' re starting
36:25
to have problems. There are many who are repentant That is why I find
36:30
it very strange that someone day who has fifty- six and a thousand one
36:34
hundred and fifty- eight percent positive image look, look, look at me,
36:37
certainly I also do not say, but eye that he still has forty
36:40
- six. I repeat what I said antero, I don' t have
36:44
to give like an energy either. No, not that I still think it
36:46
' s the tato that' s the use of important, a fit as
36:52
brutal as the one we' re living in. No and beware that some
36:53
economists are talking about that inflation can drop by four percent. And that'
36:59
s the field that enough inflation and it' s kind. That means the
37:05
market is recessive to the side. Or can you spend the last hour if
37:09
it' s been a while? What can happen like this six months fall
37:15
let us put these forty- five, fifty- thirty, thirty- five
37:19
positive personal image. I mean, he has little to do with what can
37:23
happen good. It' s starting to get complicated, it' s going
37:28
to be very complicated. This there becomes one of the Ruba. He begins
37:30
to lose power, he begins to lose power, he begins to lose support
37:35
from his own, he starts to gain and he starts to gain space in
37:39
those who are losing them. That' s right, you have to see
37:43
how Peronism can take advantage of that situation. And that' s what Macri
37:45
' s for. It seems to me that Macri is speculating with them.
37:49
This question is direct to Mr Mauricio Matti, waiting for this situation to say
37:55
that they saw that I was right, that you had to go another way
38:00
to go out on the court with your help, with your help, with
38:05
your necessary help or with the helicopter, if not careful, because this is
38:10
going around in many corrillos of the ground polio. But tell me it stowed,
38:14
because also some, I say I may be listening to what it says
38:21
brown every time it talks that it says that it has the three months that
38:27
this process ends. I repeat, no, no, no, it'
38:31
s not that easy to see. No longer stand out the bass law.
38:36
I don' t think it' s that healthy. No. No.
38:37
If you get the basic law out, it changes the thing a little if
38:45
you can change this one, because inflation is no longer the problem. The
38:47
main concern of Argentines in salaries and incomes that do not reach, and not
38:53
inflation. People don' t care about inflation anymore. What he cares about
38:59
is that he can' t buy everything you need. What matters is that
39:02
they are going to talk to their insurer on home insurance, because they cannot
39:07
pay fifty- six hundred and seventy thousand pesos and go down in half with
39:12
less coverage. They left with the basic coverage, which made you cable with
39:19
the basic CAPE coverage and had to lower the prepaid plan. This is happening
39:23
to him. Argentina' s middle class can' t send the kids to
39:29
private school anymore, but come on. A complex situation is happening to him.
39:36
That' s why I say be careful with all this, which is
39:39
knowing, how far people are going to be patient. And now with what
39:42
' s going on, with the food, with what' s going on,
39:46
with the noise that' s going on, with the dining rooms,
39:51
with Peligni, with time some topmost note, I mean and I don'
39:53
t have time anymore, some notes didn' t stop the magnifications. They
39:55
all go now to the subway as well, but increase the nasta. Saturday,
40:01
yes, but good. So, at some point it comes back to
40:05
him yes and they let go of the dollar so that for something they did
40:10
it for I don' t know for the contributors, I when they said
40:16
it doesn' t happen here, they handled it for the dollar. Two
40:19
thousand three hundred. Today they are about a thousand and two hundred, but
40:23
it was fifteen days ago, it was between a thousand and fifty- seven.
40:29
That' s a little devaluation. And it doesn' t go to
40:31
prices, because it' s not that there aren' t people who don
40:37
' t buy. Then how' s it going to go at prices.
40:38
He talks to me and all thank you very much, uh, no thanks
40:42
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41:54
re dealing with our auditions or this so- called Julio de Andira, we
41:57
' re not going to make much time, so we' re gonna wait
42:00
a minute to see what wasn' t Julio' s being and if we
42:07
' re not getting any better than seeing him go with a prunae Law Bases
42:12
writes that since he' s taken a consensus, Francos said in my laky
42:16
he' s going to San Francisco to meet with tech entrepreneurs to see the
42:16
zoom gambina if we' re good at calling him. So, well,
42:21
we call it, there' s no problem seeing lespaste a little bit more
42:30
of the tendencies in the socially passadito network to see that we have Julio.
42:35
I also well spend a second rest, the birdie, the etis and I
42:38
am already with chs or with Julio bandin I understand what to see tendencies Moreno
42:44
Bulry Santiago that apo was not curtain. I don' t know if it
42:49
' s the trend of that time the social network that we still like to
42:53
call it twitter and it doesn' t exist. No. In July,
42:53
Bambina, I look at myself good afternoon, how it goes, how about
42:58
a taste, how you are. Well, thank you for Acárano, Julián.
43:01
Well, let' s see how I' d characterize my low hair.
43:05
Obviously, a flying dish. It responds to Argentina' s circumstances.
43:08
The tasta that seems to be criticized to see only the caste or the political
43:13
class, not other houses, manually in the business or the journalistic, because
43:16
it is a social emergent of a society that you are extreme. How do
43:24
you take a little in the break- in of my law in Argentine political
43:30
life look. I think he' s a character. I don' t
43:36
want to qualify it any other way. Messianic. When you say messianic that
43:40
you think of the messiah that is recycled by a higher force. He says
43:47
the power of heaven is assigned to a historic task and he is an economist.
43:54
Well, economists are very special. Everything goes through ecor friend for the
44:01
economy. It happens if people feed or don' t feed, health,
44:06
education, everything goes through the economy. Pardon, pardon and a little dynamization.
44:10
I already told you new me when I think he comments I think and
44:14
it' s the case of my law. I think it' s typical
44:16
of great theorists. Sometimes not good, one more, one or these aggregates.
44:21
He says there are the monetary aggregates. They' re not in the
44:23
Hispanic price, the subway business at the supermarket, that is. Sometimes many
44:27
suffer from that subject that they are great theorists, perhaps with remarkable formulas But
44:30
then it is something else, the effect of mermaid and what was not clear.
44:36
But he' s based on a philosophical reading of the economy, because
44:42
the speech made by Luna Park, he does as a historical tour of where
44:46
everyone' s theater of economy. And he polemises with the economists who today
44:52
run the central banks of the world' s major countries, with the ministers
44:58
of economics, with academicism, which is hegemical in all universities. So he
45:02
has a critical reading of all of those. Fundamentalist. That is why,
45:07
I say, he is a fundamentalist messianic who is married to the free market
45:15
and says everything is the fault of the state. That' s why he
45:19
makes flags of being a libertarian to capitalist narco and you' re convinced of
45:23
what you' re saying. There' s no character there You threw him
45:27
out of mechanical character islands. There' s not a bit of cenification in
45:30
this thing of being a mess that Argentina has left to tita. There'
45:32
s no staging on the part of o. You know that the one who
45:37
reaps acts. I think he' s, he' s acting permanently,
45:44
but not acting with others. Clothing doesn' t dress up in an actor
45:50
can play a good character, a bad character, an aggressive character. He
45:54
is the character who is watching on TV when he was not a politician and
46:00
was a very genuine guy, so genuine, even if you don' t
46:07
like him voting for it, not and one of the qualities apparently can.
46:09
I think so. I think so. I think he is a character who
46:14
fell at a very special moment in Argentina, a very deteriorated Argentina and many
46:21
people, who have no hope, who have no expectation, who do not
46:24
believe in traditional forms of politics. And the character fell on the foot because
46:30
if you look back, there' s no party, there' s no
46:37
union, there' s almost nothing, and I think it keeps generating surprise.
46:42
Look, yesterday he resigned the Chief of Staff and continues his week-
46:46
long program in the United States. What a traditional politician of which country,
46:53
among the normal quotation marks of the world a situation of this one is banking.
46:58
So, if it' s a fart, a convinced messianic character and
47:04
the society decided a leap into the void, because for there is your cube
47:07
of the against the caste said well, let' s try something new,
47:12
although it' s a jump into the void and it' s difficult that
47:16
pruno doesn' t go well, but let' s prove it would tell
47:19
you that you need to specify a little bit more. Those who think so
47:20
what the middle society thinks of moving a little bit more at the moment and
47:24
today is good the description that you do, But I say it is general
47:29
yes, yes to the one that was going very badly in Argentina when you
47:34
say forty percent of poor fifty percent of poor is an alarming figure. There
47:37
are many friendly technicians who tell me it' s not credible. Something is
47:42
wrong with the statistics, because there can be no fifty percent poverty in Argentina.
47:46
But if there are not fifty, but forty thirty. But for Argentina
47:51
it is a syphygantesca and that is why you have the social drifts of marginalization
48:00
very fu There are many people who are outside the rational, traditional, normal
48:07
and good many of those people by new alfo, especially young people. We
48:10
often do not realize such for you as I do, as perhaps much as
48:15
they listen to us. We already have our years. The opening continues yes.
48:22
What worries me about that was that you had young people in general very
48:25
biologized, even the champagne, wrong or not, gold or not, militancy,
48:30
student, faculty or not. Today you have young people dominated by social
48:36
networks. Sure, nothing, little and no information, little and no depth.
48:40
Example in Time Forgiveness magazine. I' ll give you the example of
48:44
Tan magazine the other day. What matters to me is to be there,
48:45
to appear later and the note inside is much more negative than positive. I
48:51
don' t care. I' m in so many. I' m
48:52
young. For example, I say vol is my first superficial reading and with
48:54
this I stayed there that they were jabo in time and yes good mulberry javos,
48:59
the cris is more crime something else, but it was there and then,
49:01
in the sense also vejido wine and vote. I don' t know
49:06
if you were lucky. I heard the speech at Luna Park. I'
49:09
m obliged to listen to them. Well, people. If Fernando applauded him
49:15
and I ask you if you heard him, if you read him the next
49:20
day, if what he said is understandable, I can assure you that it
49:23
is not understandable. But I had a lot of winks in the middle of
49:29
the theoretical technical discourse that sparked applause, and I' m sure there'
49:36
s no theoretical reading there to assimilate the kind of discourses What kind of kids
49:42
forgiveness, what kind of dyno to refer fulion. Well, when, for
49:44
example, when you mention Rottar' s theory, no one can understand,
49:47
because no one knows who Rothbard is, an American libertarian of the left in
49:53
fifty, linked to the qo Club Plan. But when I said" fallons
49:59
" and Marx there everyone knows. Spains and mart And obstacles, therefore,
50:01
shifled. That' s what I mean, kids would throw some guin without
50:07
much explanation because de mart said, for example, that you' d all
50:13
solved it, Rodnetus, and I' d ask you how many of the
50:19
audience that' s listening to Roernando know who Rockbertus is. Don' t
50:22
really know who he is. No. I don' t know. I
50:22
don' t know who' s sorry. I admit it. Yes,
50:24
he was a socialist from the 1940s who accused March of plagiarizing his theory of
50:30
value. We' d have two shows, three shows to see the discussion
50:37
that took place. Not from Mars, because Mark cared about Rotbertus, but
50:42
Engel dedicated pages to him in volume two and volume three in the capital,
50:45
ten pages in each place to polemicize with rock plate. But that' s
50:50
what I want to tell you when Milady says clearly, because no one knows
50:55
who she is but she quickly says Tuesday and, therefore, puts her to
50:57
see. But that' s why I wanted to ask you and you don
51:00
' t have to agree with me since it' s full by direct light.
51:02
There' s nothing like that. You say that before, as critical
51:05
as we can be, how they got into the state for putting a case
51:07
in the campore, but they militated to have an ideology. I had a
51:10
wrong idea for me hitter. But no more. We move on to the
51:15
youth militancy vote. The youth a few years ago was up to fifteen tene,
51:19
was with the signatures. Now in good, this different youth, of
51:22
more social networks, of more reason and of not ideological. You don'
51:29
t understand, it' s no more superficial, it' s not something
51:31
total that I simplified that with Ta magazine. It is not a superficial vote
51:35
if you have to look totally almost ideologized, beyond which they serve or gristen
51:39
against Keines and others, because they must not know much who Heine is more
51:44
than anything. As a very statist, there' s nothing like that.
51:47
Also on something I see it in my nephew relatively an economic position that I
51:52
say, I don' t know fix you uncle arranges with the universities.
51:54
I say it doesn' t do when it' s in full conflict.
51:57
It wasn' t this arrangement. They give him a ten, for example,
51:59
the budget aside to walk the other ninety. No, I mean,
52:00
there' s no superficial reading, you see in networks, it reports in
52:05
the networks and it' s not, you know, ten percent of blind
52:07
people, and from there it does the amiable reading. Say, he'
52:10
s missing the whole other part of the movie. Let' s say,
52:14
I think there' s one other ideology. Fernando, I think we have
52:17
a conception. There is this very emotional of the ideological, because we have
52:24
to see the changes that have occurred in society. There are many people,
52:29
of course, a lot of individualism and, therefore, it is the individualism
52:32
of people in everyday life. Contact the speech of the candidate nilal and the
52:38
mini president, because the philander that loivind the monopoly. Because what the monopoly
52:44
says is going to give you good, better goods and services to you,
52:47
you' re going to live better. It' s like when someone gets
52:52
happy because an imported good, an important tenephone, an imported shoe, is
52:55
cheaper than the shoe or shirt made in Argentina. But no one thinks that
53:02
buying something cheaper where there were ten workers, street workers is the social economic
53:08
impact. It is not measured, it is answered from the individual and that
53:15
configures ideology. That is, people live in a way and whenever they feel
53:20
they have a politician, who speaks in that logic. That' s why
53:27
it' s ideological in that they' ve read more of a book and
53:30
added you to the universities. The hegemony of economic theory is neoliberal, it
53:38
is liberalizing, it is not Marxist. Sometimes Milay says the university is a
53:45
Marxist cultural sphere, It is not true, it is minority, Marxism,
53:52
the ideas of the left And I think you say well. Twenty years ago
53:58
young people came in with an identity with hysnerism. So what I see is
54:05
that we have a very convinced character who believes that a world historical mission would
54:14
say that he is more concerned about the world. That' s why he
54:24
' s interested in the time magazine stage. He is more concerned about the
54:29
world than what is happening in Argentina and is accumulating media, politically, with
54:36
the impact that his world views are having. That' s why he lives
54:40
traveling and lega government in others. I think I' m teasing his sister,
54:47
but the sister' s arming the game for him. I believe that
54:50
now I have found a politician to lead the government, which is the case
54:53
of Franco, because pose also did not solve the government a character that you
55:01
did not speak that is like it ends. Let' s say all debatable
55:06
what we' re saying. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
55:07
yeah, yeah, yeah, but good Franco, you have a character with
55:12
control stories. I have a lot of dialogue, dialogue with everything. Yes,
55:15
yes, speak a political résumé and you are at the service of what
55:20
the President says completely. And regarding another word he gave you, you spoke
55:24
individualism and that we decided cruelty, because you see I say there is resence.
55:29
I have to say, for example, that' s why I say
55:30
we go from stadiums or from one end to the other. And this also
55:32
bothers me a lot. I don' t say before. Practically it seemed
55:37
that making money private activity was an insulting insult. Today it seems that anyone
55:42
who works in the state is a bum and it is the time of cruelty
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to the other side, where it is good to throw out a lot of
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people no matter or capable that some people had to be fired contract, they
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were wanking, but not gurgling with this. And also a grub and yes
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and I were cut off all my life. It' s about time I
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didn' t know about a friendship, a relationship could get into a good
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state, I just found it. What a good boy I say we saw
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as a time where I reverberate in cruelty. I see it so much.
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You don' t read it to me in the mouthpiece In fact, it
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' s a bit representative of these times. These again there' s no
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flying dish. Not that permission from the bottom up, almost not. I
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start from diclicity and contact and contact the most deteriorated of a collective social psychology.
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This cruelty thing. It seems to me that it is dramatic, because
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to feast, to celebrate the firing of fifteen zero workers, because afterwards,
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when the data are asked for fifteen zero, but some people collect it because
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they were badly fired for times in the phrase made poor against poor, or
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something of the clear style, or, for example, when they announce that
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they will close institutions as profiles as it can be the conicec or, the
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Fine Institute. Have any opinion you have, or on the subject of human
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rights or the issue of gender, which is the people you celebrate, that
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some of these issues that end up being affected rights are cancelled, is dramatic,
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but I think it is the moment we are at. It' s
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a society and I' m not just talking about Argentina anymore, Fernando,
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I think that' s worth it. That' s a good measure.
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No yes, I have a project problem, that is, a nice question
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to ask yourself good. What is your life project as a society, not
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just as an individual. What kind of society we want to live in,
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a society look at you, what you' re growing, inequality, the
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issue of climate change is real, and what concern there is as a society,
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in what world we want to live in, what kind of social relations
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or fraternity. Well, it all seems like they' re not in fraternity
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keys, but in individual code. The subject is so individual achievement. That
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' s why cruelty weighs on these conditions as well and I' m running
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out of time. It' s up to us for the near future to
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throw her pretty like this is also because she failed in quotation marks. The
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other thing I don' t know if it extremes it or it' s
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going to touch it from the coin. Because good, because this is solidarity.
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Since I don' t know beyond the political use it gives you,
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it' s what they were trying to do with poverty, beyond exaggerating whatever
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it was. But there is everything not on the other side, also own,
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but obviously, this is always relational. There are many involved, there
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are many leg inmetries. There are many mistakes and that pays well. Julio,
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thank you as always, a hug, big hug, big guy,
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a taste. Thank you, Julio, Gambina, here in plural construction,
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we' re leaving. Thank you. Juan cras A Silvia. Tomorrow,
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four in the afternoon bye bye s s