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Childish Jacko | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #35 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Christian we've
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  podcast, but really, it's not just another episode.
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  This is a special episode. It's the 35th episode of the
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  Christian we've podcast. And it's also finally the
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  opportunity that I've had been trying to get for ages to get my
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  friend childish Jaco on the podcast.
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  Now you may not know this actually but before before I
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  introduce you I've been trying to get you on here for a long
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  time. I'm you've been very busy.
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  There's various reasons for that which we'll get into.
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  But before I did this podcast, obviously some people who listen
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  to the podcast or just follow my YouTube may know that we did or
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  I was part of a podcast called the tcj podcast beforehand,
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  which I did with childish, Jaco and my other friend Aaron Wise
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  otherwise known as trial by fire.
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  Now we did that for a couple of episodes.
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  It went down well we had good chemistry and stuff but we were
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  friends actually before But we've all been so online
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  friends. So we've all basically got this
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  history together. Me and Charles Jaco have collab
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  quite a lot before we even did not costing.
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  So there's a lot of stuff there, but this is actually the first
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  time that I've ever kind of properly disposed interviewed
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  like one of my friends. So this is going to be kind of
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  interesting now, any, because it's kind of like formal but not
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  fun working on Ami. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. But listen to this, you.
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  So, basically your YouTube but more importantly, you're like a
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  sneaker in Enthusiasts or a sneakerhead.
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  There's different ways you can call this, but it's a big part
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  of who you are. And yeah, basically, before
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  anything else, welcome to the show.
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  How you doing? Thank you for having me.
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  It's great. Yeah, it nice, it's weird.
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  Like, if people don't know like the background behind this is
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  this, it's really strange to be talking to you again.
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  And one thing I've just realized as well, I have all that time.
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  I've never spoken to you. I've never seen you while I've
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  been talking to you. I've never video called you as
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  well, which is really strange. Because I've You feel like Matt,
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  like literally probably a year now shortly?
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  Yeah, that's okay. Let's, let's talk about a little
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  bit about that. How we met for first before we
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  get into anything? Because I think it's kind of
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  cool and and also very current of like what's happening in the
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  world right now because me and you met on Reddit.
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  And this was when I was first kind of because I really Jack
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  started my YouTube last year sometime.
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  I can't remember exactly when but it doesn't matter.
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  Basically Come back come. All right you're making
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  something of a comeback. Well I never really did YouTube
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  properly like how we do it now. Like I never really gave it full
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  effort because to be honest I just never had any good.
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  I did his part from like music now and again but anyway, but
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  last year was like I'm going to do this.
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  I'm going to do a serious and every I think every YouTuber
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  that ever starts when they first start, they do that really
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  annoying thing where they do like sub4sub in and, you know,
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  just And to get everyone that can possibly find like when you
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  think about it. Logically, it's a logical.
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  So, let me and you met in subreddits and me and you were
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  doing the exact same thing of like posting an oddly
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  subreddits. Well your yeah strategy was a
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  little bit different because you you have always kind of labeled
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  yourself as like a niche YouTuber, your Target in that
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  your Target Target in that sneaker world.
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  And you've always stuck to that from the very beginning that I
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  met you, you know, you've always been like, that's your focus,
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  but you did do the same. Because I was doing initially a
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  little bit but you kind of yeah sort of took me under your wing
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  and you're like hey so I'm kind of doing this thing where I'm
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  trying to build a community of people and I was like huh?
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  Okay well that sounds way more logical.
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  And you basically said yet don't don't do stuff ourselves because
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  it doesn't work. Yeah, I think I think the the
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  sort of background to that I think I realized quite early on
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  that the sort of like not not talking not interacting just you
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  know like this I like this stuff.
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  This all subjects and stuff. We, I think we both sort of
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  realized quite early on that that wouldn't really work and I
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  just wanted to try something and I mean, our, I still believe it
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  has worked and it will continue to work just actually making
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  real friends. Like even though we've tried,
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  we've tried certain things like the reactions and the and the
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  tcga and everything we've tried, we've tried things and, you
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  know, I think they worked out quite well but obviously they
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  say, Stop for various reasons, but I just still think that if
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  me you and Erin trial by fire hadn't, you know have formed
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  that group you wouldn't know certain people, maybe I wouldn't
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  know your friend Dutch. None deals.
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  Dylan is his name, Dylan Dylan. Yeah, but I yeah, I know, it's
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  this way. Yeah, deals I wouldn't, I
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  wouldn't, I wouldn't know him. He wouldn't know me.
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  There's certain other people that, and I think we will,
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  especially over that time. Maybe not so much recently
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  because obviously are It's gone off and done his own thing.
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  And there's been sort of limited communication between me and
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  you. I think we'll this, let's dive
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  into that. Let's, let's go into it.
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  I mean, because I was going to ask you some stuff beforehand,
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  but, like, since we're talking about it, now obviously we know
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  that Aaron was always basically Aaron in his trade is a VFX
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  artist which I know very little about and I always wanted to ask
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  him about I still want to ask him about it eventually.
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  I'll be an interesting conversation.
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  Definitely. Yeah, one day, I want to have
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  him on the podcast. A stand, like just racked his
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  brains for everything that mean you've wanted to know for ages,
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  plus obviously what he's doing now because he very recently
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  joined videos games, and he's doing games development, and
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  that's what he ultimately wanted to do, and he was very like, you
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  know, like straight forward with it.
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  Like, he just said, yeah, I'm just not really feeling the
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  podcast anymore and I'm not fair enough.
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  Yeah. If you're not feeling that
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  you're not feeling it, right? But I was kind of surprised to
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  be honest. I was kind of surprised when
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  when you weren't interested in doing the podcast, any Because I
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  was kind of thinking like me and you could continue it or do
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  something with it and at the time I was a bit bummed.
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  But I was like well what can you do?
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  You know what I mean? Like I think I think the thing
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  for me I was more guide about was this that me and you went
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  like talking for a long time and I want ya know I must admit it's
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  not as much to do with that as it is to do with like at around
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  that time. I sort of I went for a funny
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  funny face and I think even even though I I did enjoy doing that
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  with you guys and stuff. I just feel like a few things
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  mixed up. Say, you know, doing that hours
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  upon hours of editing of those, you know, maybe the fact that
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  all of our conversation was simply over like actual text
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  message rather than we did, we didn't even call other than when
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  we strew, like recorded, we didn't even call.
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  So I just feel like, I don't know about you guys.
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  I don't know if this played into it with iron as well, but I was
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  feeling stressed out about it even though it wasn't.
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  It wasn't that big of a big of a deal with the time, you know.
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  Like I'm not no one, no one really.
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  Obviously there were a few people but no nobody really are
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  like would have minded if we missed a week or something very
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  realistically, no one would have, but it was just that at
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  the time, I was going through some personal stuff that was
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  getting them down that was getting on my nerves a bit.
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  And then I'm sure you can even tell just just from my personal
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  stuff I think from from an overload just in that little bit
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  of time I'm it's sort of knocked me off course, for all the stuff
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  I was doing or just alone as well.
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  I sort of had a bit of a burn out which I I just thought it's
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  not a healthy thing to do and I just needed to sit back and sort
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  of working myself and stuff. I've The amount of changes I've
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  been through since that time though, like just in my personal
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  life and stuff we can go into it a little bit.
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  But I'm not going to really like, listen, I'm not gonna give
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  it up for once but it's your personal life.
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  Like I'm not going to probe anyway because I don't think
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  it's really relevant. And like why the reason I bring
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  it up right? Is that I there was always a bit
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  of confusion on my pot, but being I'm at your friend as
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  well, I was always more concerned with like your
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  well-being because at first First, I was like, yeah, you
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  know, you different things, go for your mind.
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  Like, there's obviously the first thing of like, did I do
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  something wrong? Is it?
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  Is it personal thing? And then after some time, I
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  realize, huh, okay? Because I remember one of your
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  reasons was that you said you wanted to focus on yourself and
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  like your channel which I took as like, our he just wants to
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  get back into doing it. Being childish, Jacquard doing
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  what you do right? Which I totally understand.
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  As you said, you were doing crazy editing for the podcast,
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  which meant that your channel, kind of took a backseat And that
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  was unfair on you. And the only reason I was able
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  to keep doing what I was doing, cluster podcast is just that I
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  just have a ridiculous amount of time and I'm a bit insane.
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  And with Aaron, it's a bit more like, you know, he has a family
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  as that different things so it's even tougher for him to get
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  videos out as well. But point being there was a lot
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  of pressure, put on you which I get and then, yeah, I know.
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  And that's, that's, that's the reason why I say like it was
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  mostly to do with personal stuff and my own It was nothing to do
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  with you or anything hands done. I think it was just, it was
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  just, I don't know. I lost interest in it for a
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  split second and then I just couldn't get back.
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  I've only just recently really felt like childish Jack Logan if
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  that makes sense. This is the interest which I'm
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  sure I'm sure people actually see if you go through right now.
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  Like it's been very slow from me like recently just because I
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  think still building off of what happened happened.
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  To me and happened to Charles Jaco.
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  Both sides of me, there were things that happened in and now
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  I'm back you know I'm saying? I feel like this is a this is a
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  new start and everything and I'm glad I'm talking to you again
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  but it was nothing to view. Nothing to do their own.
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  It's cool with that. You know, I love you, man.
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  Come on, anyway. Yeah, no actually that's one
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  thing I want to wrap the bow on that actually with is that I
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  did. Notice that because you never
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  stopped posting at I early, you did what you said.
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  You took a break. Then this is like immediately
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  after the podcast and then you drop like one or two.
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  And to me, it kind of seemed like, oh, it's dipping his foot
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  in the water but he's like, not too sure.
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  And then, as you said may, I don't know, I can't pinpoint the
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  exact time, but there was a point where it's like, I ezh
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  back like boom, boom, boom, boom.
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  Yeah. And yeah, I'd only, I would even
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  say, only the past, like few weeks or so.
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  Like, I've really been feeling really motivated to do that.
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  I'm not, I've done things earlier than that, but it's just
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  like, I've just been really stuck and fear.
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  Hey, and I don't believe in like just doing stuff that you don't
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  like, want to do or don't believe in.
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  You know, I could have easily just out here and just been
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  like, hello, this is the new Jordan that's coming out next
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  week. I could have easily just done
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  that and it and everyone would have been bored out of their
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  minds. Yeah.
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  But I just wanted to make sure I put 110% into it so I just give
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  myself that time. That's interesting.
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  Actually, that you mention that because that's, that's That we
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  really do share like a, a similarity because I'm exactly
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  the same. Like, I know I pump out a lot of
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  content and stuff and a lot of that is just chance.
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  Like it's always like for have an idea put it out, you know, I
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  work hard, when something like okay, if a podcast comes you get
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  a lot of content out of that, you get Clips, you get whatever.
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  Right? But, you know, there are times
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  when I don't have anything and but more importantly with what
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  we're talking about, there's that feeling of God, just not
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  feeling it. Like I just I feel like the
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  Press tour because I have those days as well.
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  Man, I've had some times some months where it's been like
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  pretty bad and the last thing I want to do is make content for
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  the internet and people. Yeah, yeah.
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  So I totally get that. Like it's the same one I do
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  streaming as well as I think that you want it, you want to
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  come out kind of come out and give a as you said like 110% you
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  want to be like this is me and you can't do that if you're
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  feeling like the A store. If you've got your own, your own
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  battles and stuff and I just didn't want to put something out
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  that I wouldn't that I would regret like that.
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  I wouldn't be proud of. So I just thought it'd be best
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  for me to, you know, work on work on yourself.
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  And then hopefully bring some of that positivity back out into
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  the world, which is what I was meant to do.
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  And I feel like, even even like putting TC chairside and stuff.
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  Maybe some of the things that I was doing before that I wasn't
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  really enjoying overly as Well, so like say, like I'm mad
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  respect, anyone who does do this, but like, you may have
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  noticed, our people may have noticed.
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  I've sort of steered away from just like, again, this Jordan is
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  coming out next week and make sure you catch it on this.
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  And and if that that's great and I do do that, like I do do that
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  occasionally, you know. No, listen, I don't do that.
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  Kate occasionally, I sat I like zoom in.
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  I On something that's like coming out soon or something
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  like that, that I actually care about.
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  But there are a lot of people that just like their whole thing
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  is just, oh my God, this come out this week.
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  This coming out this week and it's just now I'm really sorry
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  so so you're not you're not talking about because I thought
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  you meant your enthusiasm. You're talking specifically
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  about doing the release videos where you're just.
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  So you wanted to steer away from doing those release videos as
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  what you mean, I wanted to be more creative.
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  Always try to be more creative. And then I think I got stuck
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  into a bit of a sort of cycle of just saying all this is, this is
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  here, this is here and, you know, that they'll bang and
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  every time. So I just thought I might as
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  well just keep doing this, but I think that also contribute to as
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  well, because I wasn't being honest with myself, about do, I
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  actually care about this and stuff?
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  Which I know it's hypocritical because all through that time, I
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  was probably telling you don't talk about stuff, you don't care
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  about. But yes, I think I've learnt
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  from Actually if anything, like a lot of you've given me a lot
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  of advice over the time I've been doing this properly for the
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  last year year and a half and I've really taken it especially
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  when it because the two main things I've gotten from you are,
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  yeah. Deuce.
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  What you love? I know, only what you love and
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  I've done some experiments that I'll be honest.
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  I've done reaction videos and when I did them for you for your
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  channel, that was fun. But when I did it for my channel
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  and I saw the whole process of having to edit it and Thing only
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  for the it to then get like claims or, you know, you know,
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  not if the video doesn't do well.
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  Something I just also hosts the point but the only time I ever
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  really liked enjoyed, it was either on your Channel or this
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  one time I did like a reaction video to my old metal band from
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  many, many years ago. And like that made sense.
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  Because it's like, okay, this is something I'm passionate about.
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  This is fun and it's like, it's such a simple concept but with
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  YouTube, you know, it's like you said, you get caught.
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  Number sometimes you think, oh, this band I should do something
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  like that, but you don't want to get caught in that Circle
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  because then you just end up doing stuff.
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  You don't want well like, yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah. Now I've definitely focus more
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  on, you know, trying to be more creative with what I do.
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  Like, I don't know. Even, even the past like two or
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  three, or four releases, hopefully have been completely
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  different to what I've ever done before, which it's just, you
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  know, I get to this. It's very good, but none of them
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  have None of them have been, you know, and much to do have each
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  other, none of them. Some, none of them have really
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  done amazingly, but if I'm sure you can tell, I've really
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  enjoyed doing those. That's just where that's just
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  want to keep doing that. Sit at the end of the day.
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  So I think it's that reverse. I don't know if this is the
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  right way to put it, but it's like if you're enjoying it more
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  then the content will be better. Anyway.
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  And then, yeah, it kind of will do better eventually.
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  No, do brilliantly, straight away, but after something like,
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  okay, if you take, I do, my podcast is an example, yeah.
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  Like, obviously, when it first starts, you know, it's not
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  getting many views even to this day, you know, I don't get like
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  tons and tons of views or anything, but certain things
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  here in there. There's there seems to be like a
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  growing audience. There's more positive feedback,
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  blah blah blah, right. And I do attribute a lot of that
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  down to the fact that, you know, there's like a format there and
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  it's like I really enjoy it. Like I got really excited
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  obviously to do this podcast, right?
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  Because it's like, not only is it, you know, special one, it's
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  the 35th and based on opportunity to speak with a
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  friend. So it's a slightly different
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  Dynamic and for me, this podcast is really fun with the
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  interviews because it's like, you know, I never know what to
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  expect. I always come in with the same
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  attitude. Like, I have my research on you.
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  Here it's all written down, like I always do but it's like, It's
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  always different. It's never the same, which I
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  think is incredible. And I think that that's kind of
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  part of the key of it as an IT, you want to always keep the
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  content that you're putting out exciting and fun and different
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  and because it's, it's not really.
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  I know it. They say, you know, you should
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  be making content for your audience and that is true, but
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  it is for yourself. Like I've always, you wouldn't
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  do it, you know, in like it should be for you.
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  It should be what you enjoy and what your passion, you've gotta
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  love. You've Love the process of doing
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  it rather than the end result, that's why I've realized you've
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  got, oh yeah, if you don't enjoy doing it even if no one's
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  looking at then there's no point and you and you're not going to
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  you're not going to enjoy anymore.
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  When people do look at like it's not gonna it's just a cycle.
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  Like the doubt. They won't like it as much less
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  people will watch it and then you will enjoy it less.
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  So you might as well just stick to what you like and it will
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  just go from there. Early.
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  Let's get into the questions, man.
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  Let's start the internet's go for, I'm a little bit nervous.
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  I'm gonna is fine. Relax.
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  It's it's fun. What's the story behind your
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  name? Because I obviously first thing
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  I thought was Childish Gambino right but I feel like there is
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  more of a story behind this. I sometimes I wonder like why
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  you didn't go by your main name. You're very cautious.
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  I've always noticed this about protecting your brand and like
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  So, for example, I know you have like a full-time job away from
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  from YouTube and stuff. And you know, I think I've heard
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  you say before that, like one day you'd like this to be, you
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  know, you're living kind of thing.
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  But you're obviously very conscientious of like, you don't
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  want to put anything out that's, you know, dodgy or would affect
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  your employment. So that and I get that.
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  Like, I think everyone is conscientious of that.
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  If they're still, you know, they got that daytime living, they're
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  trying to support themselves and, you know, so YouTube is the
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  grind, like, you never No, it could take one, you could take
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  five years, ten years. You have no idea.
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  So, you gotta think about a first before be.
• 19:21
  But, yeah, I feel like with your name and your brand, there's
• 19:25
  something more behind this. Talk to us.
• 19:26
  A little bit about that. Okay, with well, first off with
• 19:29
  the sort of, you know, not not being controversial and stuff,
• 19:34
  it's not so much to do with avoiding trouble.
• 19:37
  It's more to do with not letting any doors close.
• 19:41
  If you get what I mean, I'm always In not that I want to say
• 19:47
  anything outrageous. Like not not that I have any
• 19:49
  views that are going to light upset people.
• 19:51
  But yeah, I just think it's important.
• 19:53
  I want to have every experience, I possibly can in life.
• 19:56
  I've got, I've got a great daytime job that I do.
• 20:00
  I really love doing this and everything.
• 20:01
  So I just want to make sure that I'm, you know, living to the
• 20:05
  best. I can be whatever path.
• 20:06
  I may go down, I have many different things.
• 20:09
  I've started this year that I could possibly do could possibly
• 20:12
  Branch out into I just want to make sure that I have the
• 20:15
  opportunity to do all of those things and just yeah, just I
• 20:21
  just don't want, I just don't want to waste, I don't want to
• 20:23
  regret something, or or? Yeah, that's pretty much it.
• 20:27
  What? But obviously I'm not I'm not
• 20:29
  here just like pretending to not be a Nazi or something like.
• 20:32
  Um, I'm sure like yeah, there is nothing to hide but it's just
• 20:38
  like, I like to keep my things in their separate sort of
• 20:42
  locations and welcome. Them separately.
• 20:45
  And and one thing I will say, as well from having a previous
• 20:49
  channel is when you ask say like family members friends people
• 20:54
  from your work school and sneeze when you say are subscribed to
• 20:58
  me, look at this and stuff. You begin to get like fake
• 21:02
  numbers. Like what?
• 21:04
  Like so Taylor told my parents everything they were watching
• 21:09
  stuff, right? Right.
• 21:12
  So they all Watching everything then they're watching because
• 21:17
  they're you're their son, right? Right.
• 21:21
  They're not watching because like they want to see like the
• 21:24
  Jordan brand or the Call of Duty video.
• 21:27
  They're watching Jack. Do you understand what I'm
• 21:29
  saying? Yeah, I do get it.
• 21:32
  Yeah, but like when your school friends, like you know Juniors,
• 21:36
  you know what I'm saying though? Like what went when you get real
• 21:40
  life people involved, it begins to generate more.
• 21:43
  More like, sympathy sort of use other mental, right word.
• 21:49
  Do you get what I'm saying though?
• 21:51
  You get on saying. So like you when you mean is
• 21:53
  that you could put out what you deem is like trash and like your
• 21:56
  parents be like oh it's great brilliant.
• 21:59
  Yeah. And you're like, you know, tell
• 22:00
  the truth and they're like, no no that's great son and you're
• 22:03
  like I'm not saying they're lying.
• 22:05
  I'm I'm not saying anyone's lying to anyone.
• 22:08
  All I'm saying is like I could send, I could send, I could send
• 22:12
  my stuff out too. Like 100 people that had that I
• 22:15
  know from my life or something. Okay.
• 22:17
  And that that would be simple, you know.
• 22:19
  I mean you could do that as well.
• 22:21
  We could be simple and but sending it to 100 individual
• 22:25
  people isn't really getting an accurate reading of your
• 22:29
  successes. It, it's funny that you say this
• 22:32
  as well, because I think it does vary on your network and stuff
• 22:36
  because for this is my Facebook, I have a Facebook page, right?
• 22:40
  And then I share from my paper Facebook page Onto my Facebook
• 22:44
  profile, right? My Facebook profile is private
• 22:47
  but it's only got friends and family and if I'm not calling
• 22:51
  anyone out, I'm not trying to start anything, but there's very
• 22:55
  little interest from family friend.
• 22:58
  I think very recently, maybe my mom started watching some of my
• 23:02
  podcasts because they are on Facebook, but I think mostly my
• 23:06
  family and friends, just ignore what I do or they maybe they
• 23:10
  don't see it even because Facebook is terrible.
• 23:13
  Showing stuff. But and I think, I think that is
• 23:16
  the best thing for you but I don't ya not, it's not saying
• 23:20
  like that shouldn't, but it's the best thing for you.
• 23:23
  Because, you know, that the people that are finding it are,
• 23:26
  you know, more legitimate people that that is my main point, is
• 23:30
  that sending it to people you already know from work and
• 23:34
  school and stuff is not a it's not really a legitimate.
• 23:37
  It's almost in the sort of sub4sub kind of category if you
• 23:42
  get what I mean, you are Well, I said next year in math.
• 23:45
  So can you like this video? Do not do you.
• 23:48
  Go on saying right? Yeah I just love the way you put
• 23:50
  it. Yeah, I get what you mean.
• 23:53
  Yeah, yeah. So she said, yeah.
• 23:56
  So I just think it a stranger doing.
• 24:00
  That is much worth much, much more than someone that, you
• 24:03
  know, in real life doing that. So, I just wanted to sort of, I
• 24:06
  wanted to sort of grow up, more organically than sort of given
• 24:10
  out to people and in real life anyway, Understand that I don't
• 24:14
  want to offend anyone. That's just why I think about
• 24:17
  it. But Owens.
• 24:18
  Yeah. That's that's that's really cool
• 24:20
  to know actually. I didn't know that that you
• 24:22
  thought that way about it and I see you made some really good
• 24:25
  points to be for. Okay.
• 24:27
  So the name right you want to? Yeah the name.
• 24:30
  We want to know the name of the story, okay?
• 24:32
  So actually links directly to like any any sort of creative
• 24:38
  output I've ever had. Pretty much in my life, Jaco has
• 24:42
  been something. I'm like not that people have
• 24:45
  called it to my face, but it's been sort of like my username
• 24:49
  sort of nickname that I've always had always given that to
• 24:52
  myself. And there has been periods of
• 24:54
  time when people have called me that and stuff.
• 24:59
  So my first ever channel was actually one called Jack
• 25:03
  asaurus. Okay.
• 25:04
  Yeah, but Jack, a source. Like the dinosaur Jack asaurus.
• 25:07
  I was actually, like, probably like eight at the time or
• 25:09
  something, right? Right.
• 25:11
  And that shows a young I meant as well.
• 25:13
  That I was eight and you and everything was a everything was
• 25:16
  out. But, um, I, I started with doing
• 25:21
  some like, Lego animations, like, stop motion and stuff
• 25:25
  because I've always been, I've always been into like,
• 25:28
  Filmmaking animation and everything.
• 25:30
  I told Aaron when it, when he said, he was a CGI artist or
• 25:34
  whatever I said, lot harder us that that's amazing.
• 25:36
  I've always wanted to do something like that.
• 25:38
  So I've always been into that animation and stuff, so that was
• 25:41
  sort of my first ever creative thing.
• 25:45
  I learned some skills through that even at that young of an
• 25:48
  age and obviously developed through there, and then
• 25:51
  obviously, as I got older, I'd sort of dropped the Souris of
• 25:55
  off. Jack off, thoris pretty much.
• 25:58
  And then, my Xbox gamer tag was Jaco.
• 26:04
  And then, and that was just on there like that.
• 26:07
  This was when like, no, I'm pretty much called me called me
• 26:10
  by that name. And then there was one game on,
• 26:12
  I believe it was Black Ops 2. Okay.
• 26:16
  And there was this, I can't remember if he was like, French
• 26:18
  or something, but me and my friend had, you know, when you
• 26:21
  used to trap people, with the riot shields in the, in the
• 26:24
  corner. Yeah.
• 26:26
  Do you play up to Call of Duty? You know, the right?
• 26:28
  It's on multiplayer? Yeah.
• 26:31
  I used to do. We used to trap one of our
• 26:34
  teammates like like, get like, you know, like round round em
• 26:37
  up. Like a sheepdog and trap him in
• 26:40
  the corner like the whole game. Let's you just hold him up
• 26:43
  against the wall with the with the right shield and he was
• 26:46
  going. He was in the might in the in
• 26:48
  the Xbox one. Headset party chat going jackal
• 26:52
  jackal. It's just a creamy or screaming
• 26:57
  at me the whole time. And then for odd say like maybe
• 27:00
  a year of school, that, that story kind of got around.
• 27:04
  And whenever I go into a class or something, everyone would go
• 27:08
  Jack or Jackal side by side. That's where it kind of stuck.
• 27:14
  I'd say before that, it was just something that gave myself and
• 27:17
  then, I don't know. It got spread out into the
• 27:20
  wider, sort of wider, sort of notice when people started
• 27:25
  calling me that and then yeah. And then Yeah, so then Childish
• 27:29
  Gambino, then that's childish. Jeff I basically and then Jaco
• 27:33
  is just the name that I've always had pretty much since
• 27:36
  like 7:00 or 8:00. So yeah, and I was not expecting
• 27:41
  that fair play. I'm glad I asked, it's quite a
• 27:43
  lot. There's a lot of noise and it's
• 27:45
  a lot of backstory. Those cool, it's cool.
• 27:47
  I mean his me like this is why you should never assume things
• 27:51
  in life because I just assumed it was from the singer and you
• 27:53
  just, you know, and it's a cool name as well to be honest.
• 27:56
  Hmm. And also just on a side note,
• 27:59
  like, it is, you Jana mean like I can't imagine like if I know
• 28:04
  if I'm when I when I mother say, if, when I meet you in real
• 28:07
  life, I can't imagine calling you Jack that would just feel
• 28:11
  weird. It's probably your put my
• 28:13
  definitely Jacko. Like it fits really well.
• 28:16
  I'd say it's incredibly well, it's nice one.
• 28:20
  Nice one. Yeah.
• 28:22
  So I pretty much owe everything to this french guy in Black Ops
• 28:25
  2. Mercy.
• 28:28
  You're getting drunk. Yeah, it was, it Miss know.
• 28:31
  Is that right? Miss?
• 28:31
  See that's how they say, firstly?
• 28:33
  I think it is. Yeah, let's see.
• 28:34
  Thinks is what's that? What's mass is?
• 28:37
  He? Thanks and I thank you.
• 28:39
  Yeah, thank you sir. Yeah, seems like bad at
• 28:41
  languages. I didn't pay any attention in
• 28:43
  school. Yeah.
• 28:46
  I was pretty lazy. When it came to languages at
• 28:48
  school. What when did you get into
• 28:52
  sneakers? I'm really interested about this
• 28:55
  because I think that like, Boys growing up, particular,
• 28:59
  particularly in the UK, you know, I know I was always into
• 29:01
  sneakers and stuff, but I was always more into kind of like,
• 29:06
  you know, because I grew up playing football and stuff.
• 29:08
  So it was like this would be way before your time, but there was
• 29:10
  some these things called total 90s, which will like football
• 29:14
  shoes you use. Like if you're playing for you,
• 29:18
  I don't know what they're called, you know?
• 29:19
  Like, when not studs but the other ones with like AstroTurf.
• 29:23
  Yeah. Yeah, that on that hard.
• 29:25
  Aground, not mad. Nicely.
• 29:27
  Yeah, so I grew up using those and then gradually.
• 29:30
  When I became a teenager, I started funnily enough wearing
• 29:33
  the sort of trainers that you were like Bobby not as nice but
• 29:36
  like but sort of basket style white like there was a time I
• 29:41
  think I told you about the seen kids thing, right?
• 29:44
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:45
  We've had that we we are looking for sanctioning seeing kids.
• 29:48
  Yeah. So a big thing about that was
• 29:49
  that like we'd have all this like you know, it was a weird
• 29:53
  Malcolm ation of chemo and Mainstream and everything,
• 29:58
  whatever. But we would always wear, like,
• 30:00
  flat caps and those kind of basketball style shoes.
• 30:04
  And there was just so many different types types and they
• 30:08
  were really colorful and stuff. And I've never told you this
• 30:10
  actually, but I actually met I had a couple of friends up in
• 30:13
  London who sneaker enthusiasts and they can, they had like tons
• 30:18
  and one of them in particular, his name was Isaac and he had
• 30:21
  like boxes upon boxes upon boxes of these.
• 30:25
  And I was just I was Like Amazed by this as I would you MIT?
• 30:29
  What you mean you have like, do you wear them?
• 30:30
  And he's like, you know, some of them and I'm like, so what they
• 30:33
  just sit there and he's like, well, you know, I'm just really
• 30:35
  enthusiastic about it and I never got it until I started
• 30:40
  collecting stuff of my own. Like, so, like my weird thing, I
• 30:45
  have it with. Like I click foreign coins.
• 30:48
  Okay. I don't know why, but for some
• 30:51
  reason I really like it and I guess.
• 30:55
  I got like two questions here with you.
• 30:57
  Like I want to know like when you got into Sneakers but I also
• 30:59
  kind of want to know about like how addicted to this.
• 31:03
  Are you do you know what I mean? Like is it like this is just
• 31:07
  interest it's fashion whatever or is it like more?
• 31:10
  Kind of like what I'm referring to of this that addictive thing?
• 31:14
  Okay, you're mean. All right, so I'll go with
• 31:17
  first. I'll start with where it sort of
• 31:20
  came from obviously, Full of, obviously, you've given examples
• 31:26
  of seeing kids and stuff. There are groups of people who
• 31:29
  do sort of pay attention to sneakers and such like that it
• 31:34
  in the UK. But obviously being from the UK
• 31:37
  as well. I would say, and I've mentioned
• 31:40
  this before, I'd say like the NBA and stuff, hasn't really had
• 31:45
  that much of an effect as it has in the u.s. geography of that
• 31:50
  you'd say, like I'm like George Michael Jordan and and stuff.
• 31:53
  I even though it obviously a household name, huge huge star,
• 31:57
  and everything, and people, obviously know what Jordans are.
• 32:01
  Just just being at school and stuff like that.
• 32:03
  People don't really care as much in the UK.
• 32:07
  I would say, personally, just, just, just from experience,
• 32:10
  maybe it's where I live and stuff, but I'll just say, it's
• 32:13
  bigger in the USA, isn't it? Let's be honest.
• 32:16
  I think that's fair to say. Yeah.
• 32:17
  I mean, like, obviously I play a lot of basketball and I have
• 32:20
  noticed, like, obviously play basketball every Everyone is
• 32:24
  obsessed with MBA, of course, and like, you know, sneakers and
• 32:27
  stuff. But yeah, like if we're talking
• 32:28
  mainstream, yeah, like not, not so much.
• 32:33
  Like the average person isn't really keeping up like USA.
• 32:38
  That's the whole culture is basketball and football.
• 32:41
  And baseball. Wasn't it like that everyone
• 32:44
  there? I don't know if I'm generalizing
• 32:46
  here, maybe I've just been watching too many films, but it
• 32:48
  does seem like it's much more integrated into their lifestyle.
• 32:52
  Whereas, I'd say over here, It's more of a football like soccer
• 32:56
  off at glad ya influential over here.
• 32:59
  So I think obviously just developing on from that we've
• 33:05
  just got slightly different culture to them and I would say,
• 33:09
  aye most of the people that have come into contact with in that
• 33:12
  world have can sort of side of. They were simply brought up like
• 33:18
  and sneakers like it was from day one there, dad bought it for
• 33:21
  them and you know they collection started when they had
• 33:24
  tiny little feet and they have all the little shoes and stuff
• 33:27
  that's not the same for me like okay it's not it's been I'd say
• 33:35
  three or four years. Maybe I've actually started to
• 33:39
  take interest in it and stuff it.
• 33:41
  I would say it started when I first got my job at Nike which
• 33:45
  I've explained to you that I used to work for my key, right?
• 33:48
  So make sense, right? I knew a little bit about this
• 33:51
  but I don't think I've ever really are.
• 33:53
  Do you fully about this? Because I remember one time when
• 33:56
  we did the podcast we did a. It was like you were comparing
• 34:01
  Nike and Adidas, possibly something like that.
• 34:05
  And there is this kind of thing where I was like, wait, what was
• 34:11
  the problem with Nike and you couldn't?
• 34:12
  You wouldn't quite say it, you sort of said, it already has a
• 34:14
  story for another time and I'm like, there's a story there.
• 34:20
  Okay, that's it. Okay, so pretty much from, I
• 34:28
  don't know, I wasn't really the most confident person especially
• 34:31
  back then. So going into the interview it
• 34:34
  was like a group interview. So it was probably I knew it'd
• 34:39
  probably be some kind of task. I'll make up this and present it
• 34:43
  and who's good at working in the group and speaking to other
• 34:46
  people taking the charge and stuff rather than actual?
• 34:52
  What's the word for it hard? It was, you know, they didn't
• 34:55
  really care about your maps and stuff.
• 34:56
  They just wanted to see if you could work well in the team.
• 34:59
  So me knowing that I knew okay, I could go in there and I could
• 35:04
  say, I'll Nestle think about this idea and, you know, I could
• 35:08
  take the easy way and just hope and keep fingers crossed that
• 35:12
  the person who was watching me felt extra kind drawn during
• 35:15
  that day and and wanted to give me the job.
• 35:18
  But I decided instead to just a research, like some up and
• 35:23
  coming. In sort of shoes and
• 35:24
  Technologies and everything that were coming out around the time
• 35:28
  in coming in the future or just her just recently dropped.
• 35:32
  And luckily, for me, the task was to design a Nike sneaker
• 35:38
  like just to draw it label, some of the details on in stuff.
• 35:43
  So we obviously split out into little groups.
• 35:45
  I was probably about 20 of us that this interview and then
• 35:47
  there are about would probably spit into like five different
• 35:51
  little groups to work on this project.
• 35:53
  And luckily, the person who was watching our group was the head
• 35:59
  of the back of house, like the warehouse that was attached to
• 36:02
  the store. So as everyone was sort of
• 36:06
  working on it, I was just trying to drop in little bits of
• 36:08
  knowledge that I picked up at home just to sort of.
• 36:12
  And I made sure I was I made sure I was right next to this
• 36:15
  guy so he could hear me. And I, and even spoke to him and
• 36:18
  I was like, oh, have you heard about the new?
• 36:21
  I was looking at the self-lacing.
• 36:24
  The selfless in Back to the Future style shoes that they I
• 36:27
  think came out during that time although working on them or
• 36:30
  something. Yeah, I was like, yeah, have you
• 36:33
  heard about the back, the self-lacing Back to the Future
• 36:37
  shoes and and he obviously was impressed by that.
• 36:40
  So I'd say that that little bit of research while I wasn't
• 36:45
  completely, you know, invested in sneakers and stuff.
• 36:48
  That was definitely the spark sort of preparing for That
• 36:52
  interview and stuff and then obviously, And the job I was in,
• 36:54
  I was in the warehouse. So there were times when I would
• 36:58
  have to show up at like 6:00 in the morning to get the delivery,
• 37:02
  get a delivery through the back door.
• 37:04
  And from there, Mike Symon grow because I would say, are we?
• 37:08
  I look on the notepad the you know, the clipboard and it would
• 37:12
  say, Jordan Air Jordan delivery. I've had yes I can't wait to see
• 37:17
  what the Jordan shoes are. I'd rip.
• 37:19
  I'll get the box cutter. Rip it open.
• 37:21
  Look, you know, look at and I'd have my friends.
• 37:23
  Back there with me and we'd all like, look at them and stuff and
• 37:27
  then obviously spending like a nine-hour shift, you know, you
• 37:32
  get bored sometimes. So obviously I had spent most of
• 37:35
  my time just staring at these things.
• 37:37
  Look a little details and stuff. So yeah, maybe I was infected by
• 37:42
  evil. The research, or the just being
• 37:46
  trapped in a warehouse full of shoes for like, nine hours of
• 37:49
  the day. And I was about 16 at the time.
• 37:52
  So obviously, my My you know, my attention wasn't wasn't the
• 37:56
  best. So I did spend most my time just
• 37:58
  looking up what why I wanted to get myself and putting these to
• 38:02
  the side? Make sure they have a size 12
• 38:04
  for me. Yeah.
• 38:06
  But I'd say that's probably where it came from.
• 38:08
  Most of all cool. Cool.
• 38:11
  I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing were you able
• 38:15
  to get like you know like you decent discounts where you're
• 38:17
  working there? Like sort of yeah.
• 38:20
  Yeah, I got. It was 30% in.
• 38:23
  In in store and then because things are tiny bit more
• 38:27
  expensive online. It was 44 percent online.
• 38:31
  So it's just very, was the difference - yeah, yeah.
• 38:35
  Very nice, 6 discount. Yeah.
• 38:38
  Okay. And so like as it stands right
• 38:41
  now, so you've kind of laid that out.
• 38:42
  That's about sort of fought for years worth of time.
• 38:45
  So between then tonight we'll how old are you now actually.
• 38:49
  I'm not doing no, that's it. Why still so young?
• 38:51
  So Sony free is free while nearly 20.
• 38:53
  So the site for years. Yeah, for years.
• 38:55
  Okay. So like how big is your
• 38:57
  collection now? Like how many pairs of trainers
• 39:00
  do you have? It's surprisingly not huge.
• 39:05
  Just because I've sort of limited myself and obviously not
• 39:10
  just being surrounded by like loads of friends who, you know,
• 39:14
  we're not all gasping each other up to happen.
• 39:16
  Yeah, get get the best ones. So it's definitely just been
• 39:20
  something, where I've sort of tried on the sneakers, app is
• 39:25
  very difficult to get them on there for the retail price and
• 39:28
  then if they go to, if they go to re say or see online eBay and
• 39:32
  deep up and stuff like that, I'm normally just, I'm not addicted.
• 39:36
  So I'd normally just let him slide if because they normally
• 39:39
  put them up by hundreds on there.
• 39:41
  So yeah, I'm not, I'm I'm in no way a massive collector.
• 39:45
  I just get why I like some of them some like Yeezys He's and
• 39:49
  stuff which I don't really some of them are, okay.
• 39:52
  I don't, I don't really care for them as much as some people do.
• 39:56
  So I normally just, you know, get him in.
• 39:59
  Have a look at them and then just sell them on for a little
• 40:02
  bit extra than what I've gotten for.
• 40:04
  But I'm definitely not one of these people.
• 40:06
  You see, some people on Twitter and stuff who we all get annoyed
• 40:09
  about all of, all of the sneaker people on Twitter.
• 40:12
  They they get like, somehow they obviously back door and it like
• 40:16
  that, they have some friend in a warehouse who's getting it.
• 40:19
  Yeah, I'm not again, all of the stop.
• 40:20
  They Takin pictures tweeting out like with, like, 20 pairs of
• 40:25
  Jordans that have just literally just released.
• 40:27
  And they're probably making, like, thousands profit from
• 40:30
  them. It's just annoying like, the
• 40:32
  people who actually like it for the money.
• 40:34
  Like even though I said, like, I'd Ivory sold some, I don't do
• 40:38
  it for profit, I just do it to get him in and then see if I
• 40:41
  like him. If I don't, then I put him up
• 40:42
  for life are a fair price, like, without mugging myself off.
• 40:46
  And while that I'm knocking it over personal, That's
• 40:49
  interesting. Actually that, yeah, cuz I've
• 40:51
  seen I've seen you do that before.
• 40:53
  And obviously, obviously not watched a lot of these videos
• 40:55
  that you do when specifically specifically, the unboxing ones
• 40:58
  and the one where it's like, the latest releases videos and use a
• 41:02
  lot of terms that I had to kind of unlike spend a bit of time
• 41:06
  trying to understand. So you often say copying, which
• 41:08
  means, you know, actually buying purchasing them, but what you're
• 41:11
  talking about, right, there is very common where you purchased
• 41:15
  them for people or sometimes I see you tweet out like, hey,
• 41:19
  This pair is about to release who wants me to cop them and
• 41:23
  it's kind of like a request and then people actually for follow
• 41:26
  up on that and and say, hey can you cut them for me?
• 41:29
  So it's like yeah, an interesting kind of like
• 41:32
  e-commerce style deal. But it's also, as you said, like
• 41:35
  you're sort of a conservative collector so you're doing it.
• 41:38
  Like for passion but also interesting, the are like trying
• 41:41
  them out and seeing that well, maybe they're not for me.
• 41:43
  I'll sell them on then. And I find that quite
• 41:46
  interesting but like took us a like Yeah, sorry cat is.
• 41:50
  What was you gonna ask? Sorry, I was just going to ask
• 41:53
  light if you could talk a little bit more about the process, I
• 41:56
  suppose behind, you know, just in general, like, copying
• 41:59
  trainers. And like you said, using the
• 42:02
  apps and stuff because I've seen you tweet that you've had
• 42:05
  difficulties with these things as well.
• 42:06
  Like it's not an easy process. So talk us through that a little
• 42:10
  bit. I would say for I have basically
• 42:15
  there's two that I use. Okay there's I use added added a
• 42:19
  tap of a seed to get the easies and stuff and then there's the
• 42:22
  Nike sneakers at which is a separate app that they do just
• 42:26
  for their new and trendy, you know, sneakers that they're
• 42:29
  dropping pretty much so that they have on their, they have
• 42:33
  like a calendar. That shows you upcoming ones,
• 42:35
  you can click on that notify me when luck like 15 minutes before
• 42:39
  it comes, it's normally about eight.
• 42:41
  I am outside normally on a Saturday or something like that.
• 42:45
  They do have a few things dropping and some most of the
• 42:49
  time they do sell out some some of them.
• 42:52
  Like if it's up an off-white collaboration or something
• 42:56
  that's really really hype. They'll do like a raffle.
• 43:01
  So basically a raffle is 8, 8 a.m. if say it's Droppin am at
• 43:06
  8:00 a.m. they'll have the raffle open, you can go in, you
• 43:10
  can put your Email input your Deeds card details in and then
• 43:14
  it takes about 10 minutes, I'd say to all process and
• 43:18
  everything and then they basically just pick, you know,
• 43:21
  random selections out of there to be able to pretty much
• 43:25
  purchase the shoe. Okay, hold on, hold on.
• 43:28
  So you put your credit card details in their debit card
• 43:31
  details in there. And then this randomly selects a
• 43:35
  pair for you or is it randomly that you'll get a chance to
• 43:38
  purchase the ones? Yeah.
• 43:40
  So you put what size you want, right?
• 43:43
  Okay. Yeah, yeah, right.
• 43:45
  Other specifics shoes? I say it's the obvious that it's
• 43:48
  like Wimbledon Wimbledon. Basically you sign.
• 43:51
  I don't I don't understand that reference.
• 43:53
  I'm afraid. I don't understand.
• 43:55
  So yeah. Wimbledon tennis tournament
• 43:58
  basically because it would be unfair to just sell them
• 44:03
  straight and because, you know, everyone and their moms wants
• 44:06
  tickets for to Wimbledon they're really expensive, they operate a
• 44:11
  raffle system, so obviously they give out a certain amount that
• 44:13
  are like two celebrities Court, officials Bubba, but most of
• 44:19
  them, why the majority are raffle, so everyone enters in
• 44:23
  and then you randomly get selected To, you know, I don't
• 44:27
  know. You've got courtside seats.
• 44:28
  So you got seats to this random game or something and it's other
• 44:31
  when you were out lying that it kind of sounded a little bit
• 44:34
  similar like the process. Yeah, it does.
• 44:36
  It does. It does sound like that.
• 44:38
  So obviously there will be a certain amount of stop that
• 44:40
  they'll sell on the app. They'll be a certain amount that
• 44:42
  they take two specific stores may be in London and some nice
• 44:47
  stores like that in the US and stuff.
• 44:50
  But yeah, they'll have a specific amount that they can
• 44:52
  sell the each of each size on the Up and for me, always go for
• 44:57
  my size, obviously, because there are sizes that resell for
• 45:01
  more. Hmm.
• 45:03
  Right. So say, like size 10 size 7,
• 45:06
  they're quite popular sizes. So some people, it's harder to
• 45:09
  get those basically, but for size 12, it's tiny bit easier.
• 45:14
  But with the, with the main drops, they're virtually
• 45:17
  impossible. Like you get one raffle entry
• 45:21
  per device that you're on per account, basically.
• 45:26
  Yeah, you put in your details and then they pick a pick.
• 45:29
  Someone who's lucky enough to be able to purchase the shoe
• 45:32
  because sometimes I've explained it to people before and they
• 45:35
  think like it's the raffle to win the true for free.
• 45:38
  You, is that a raffle? It's a raffle to be able to
• 45:41
  purchase basically, it's a raffle for the honor of
• 45:44
  purchasing that on the knife. Basically, there's no other way
• 45:50
  they could do that though because you just know
• 45:53
  particularly what you said before about people.
• 45:55
  Of Panama language that taking the piss and buying up a load.
• 45:58
  You just know. There would be a people with
• 46:00
  more dollar who would undercut. So let's say, Nike is selling
• 46:05
  them for 100 or something. For a set in, they would buy
• 46:10
  them offline, buy them in bulk and then sell them at like 95 or
• 46:15
  90 or something. So, they're just about
• 46:17
  undercutting them. But basically, or maybe they
• 46:19
  were even selling for more even and just be like, yeah
• 46:22
  completely, yeah. Actually I've seen that.
• 46:24
  Where they Buy them out of stock and then sell it for more and
• 46:29
  it's like, really not morally. Yeah.
• 46:31
  Just it's kind of sucks there. There are some releases that are
• 46:34
  like, first come first serve. So they're obviously just
• 46:38
  whoever get whoever clicks the button first.
• 46:40
  But they're also have been times where I've been on their way in,
• 46:44
  if you know, 759 8:00, click, click on it.
• 46:47
  Size, 12, click on it. Yeah, didn't get it.
• 46:50
  It takes a little, like, a couple minutes to process didn't
• 46:53
  go through. They were already all sold.
• 46:56
  It's ridiculously. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
• 46:59
  Imagine the that they're the main sort of their, the main
• 47:02
  sort of strategies I have for releasing stuff basically.
• 47:08
  And did you often get like problems with like the website
• 47:10
  crashing or something like there's loads of people trying
• 47:13
  to cop them at the same time or no, I'd say their prey because
• 47:19
  of just a, because of the nature of the app.
• 47:22
  I'm in both taken that into consideration because they know
• 47:26
  People are only going to be on there on Saturday, so they know.
• 47:30
  I think they've got that that aspect to it is very, you know,
• 47:34
  it's very well looked after, but it's just like, I've had very
• 47:39
  limited amounts when I've actually hit on the Nike
• 47:42
  sneakers out. Like I'm yeah.
• 47:45
  It you're very, very lucky, like, if you tweet.
• 47:47
  Oh, yeah, I got an, send a screenshot of, you know, you
• 47:50
  know, what is the Gotham? And then the, and then the shoe
• 47:54
  if you get that like you're getting You're getting loads of
• 47:56
  likes, you get a load of retweets because that's like
• 47:59
  this is It's a there's a there's a there's a certain amount of
• 48:01
  like flexing here involved in. Basically, it's like, yeah.
• 48:04
  Look what I caught kind of deal. It's just so exciting is though,
• 48:07
  because it's not even about it's not even about the actual money
• 48:11
  though, because I do not want another talking the, the money,
• 48:15
  I mean more that the kind of exclusivity of cuckoos, a lot of
• 48:20
  the time when you talk about a many of these trainers, I've
• 48:22
  noticed a lot of them a limited edition as well.
• 48:25
  So those aren't there, Selling a certain amount and then the
• 48:27
  never going to sell them again. Presumably or unless they do we
• 48:33
  sell many years later or whatever.
• 48:36
  Like I've seen, you do videos on.
• 48:37
  Yeah, but yeah. Like, that's what you mean more,
• 48:41
  isn't it? The exclusivity of those
• 48:43
  trainers. It's all right.
• 48:45
  Yeah. It's about ask fully completely
• 48:47
  luck-based. Someone with just the right
• 48:49
  amount of money may be able to get it and, you know, not felt
• 48:53
  or not afford to eat that that for that month and then There'll
• 48:56
  be other people that have load that has money to burn, but they
• 48:59
  don't get the chance of getting it.
• 49:01
  But then, that same day, you'll see people, you know, hundreds
• 49:05
  of them appearing on eBay and stuff.
• 49:07
  All all marked up by about one to two hundred extra pounds, if
• 49:12
  you really wanted them. But I still, I still clear of
• 49:15
  that steer clear of the resale Market because it's just some of
• 49:20
  them. They even they bring back like
• 49:22
  they bring they remake the shoe. Just tiny, tiny little details
• 49:28
  that are different. And then, yeah, they bring them
• 49:31
  back. So then obviously the ones that
• 49:33
  are on eBay that are holding all there like, you know, 10 pairs
• 49:37
  of this shoe, they're all decreasing in value because more
• 49:39
  people more people manage to get the ones that they want.
• 49:43
  But yeah, there are definitely people that take the mick a
• 49:46
  little bit. Obviously if you go to a Locker
• 49:50
  location to buy them and you have a friend, you know, there
• 49:54
  are some people picking up 10. 10, 20, 30 Pairs and their, you
• 49:58
  know, making hundred hundred dollars a hundred pounds extra.
• 50:03
  You know, they're sort of profiting off of people's, you
• 50:06
  know, passion for it. And that's the difference
• 50:09
  between me. And those kind of people, I'm
• 50:11
  not here saying, oh yeah, I'm the best person ever and stuff.
• 50:14
  But, like, with some Yeezys that I've sort of unboxed and stuff,
• 50:18
  and I've looked and I've tried them on and stuff and I didn't
• 50:21
  really like him, I sort of offer them to, you know, the people
• 50:25
  around. The people around me and the
• 50:27
  people I know. Yeah, I offer if anyone else
• 50:31
  wants them for, you know, reduce price or just the price of
• 50:34
  shipping and stuff. And then, if not, I just put
• 50:37
  them up on eBay for maybe 20 pounds, extra just to cover
• 50:41
  costs or 50 pound extra but that's, I know that sounds like
• 50:45
  I'm taking the mick but that's like That's like 50 or 100 lb
• 50:51
  less than what other people asking for.
• 50:52
  So it's really normal and that that that profit is then
• 50:56
  obviously put back into the system, like I'm then purchasing
• 50:59
  another pair or replacing that. So it's not.
• 51:03
  It's not like I'm just taking it and blowing it on strippers and
• 51:07
  drugs and stuff. I'm trying to do good with
• 51:10
  trying to do good with it but yeah.
• 51:13
  And then obviously look like you mentioned before, there are like
• 51:16
  times when you will offer your yes.
• 51:18
  An assist is called so you offer you offered to give someone else
• 51:21
  a store. You are something to get, get an
• 51:23
  assist. So there will be times when
• 51:25
  like, I don't really care about a specific drop so I'll say it.
• 51:29
  Does anyone want me to does? Anyone want to use my profile?
• 51:33
  Basically, obviously, I'll do it.
• 51:34
  But like, do you want me to like Christian?
• 51:37
  Do you want me to try for a size 11 or something in this in this
• 51:41
  specific shoe? So basically meat.
• 51:44
  So like if I was trying to combat trainer then then me my
• 51:47
  profile and your profile both Go for it and again creases are
• 51:50
  chances kind of thing. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:53
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 51:54
  So are so maybe you'll put on the group chat or something like
• 51:57
  old? Can anyone can if anyone's
• 52:00
  doesn't want this for themselves, then can you try and
• 52:03
  get it for me? And they'll be some people, you
• 52:05
  know, like me and like, people are trying to surround myself
• 52:08
  with who, you know, I kind and they'll want to help people.
• 52:11
  And then there's some that are like, know I could get it and
• 52:14
  sell it to you for 100 more and stuff.
• 52:16
  Like there's people like that that you get as well, but Ya
• 52:20
  know if it's a ruthless world that obviously people aren't
• 52:23
  saying that. But there are definitely people
• 52:25
  who don't come through with the assist for 4 people just because
• 52:28
  they're using every chance they can get to make a dollar, you
• 52:31
  know the saying so. But yeah.
• 52:34
  It's a weird world when you're not really involved in it is
• 52:38
  definitely not even just saying this out loud.
• 52:41
  Now is strange too. Yeah, it's like a little cartel.
• 52:46
  It's not that strange. I mean I mean we've I've seen
• 52:49
  some of this kind of behavior in its extreme form like - Lea
• 52:53
  speaking in the the pandemic right now with people, you know,
• 52:57
  buying like tons of toilet, roll and then selling it on eBay and
• 53:02
  stuff. And like, I'm hand sanitizer
• 53:04
  guys. Well, yeah, loads of it.
• 53:07
  Yeah, there's a guy that guy he must do.
• 53:11
  There was this guy in America. I saw that bought, like, thirty
• 53:16
  thousand dollars worth of hand side.
• 53:18
  Sighs. Uh forget this, the police found
• 53:21
  them out, and then he had to then give all of it away for
• 53:27
  free back to light, even local stores or the local people, some
• 53:31
  of these, they just lost loads of money and yeah they get to
• 53:35
  keep yeah. Like they banned him from
• 53:38
  selling it didn't like they've had used in like eBay and stuff.
• 53:41
  So he pretty much had to give it away because he had no other use
• 53:45
  for it. That's what you get.
• 53:48
  That's what you get. That's the feeling when they
• 53:51
  restock a shoe that someone's holding, that's the feeling that
• 53:54
  the sneaker had the snakeheads field were like yes we got our
• 53:58
  revenge now. There's extra stuff on the
• 54:00
  market so the prices are going down.
• 54:03
  Yeah, good stuff. Fighting the good sign.
• 54:06
  Yeah. What is it?
• 54:07
  You love about sneakers so much. That what would you say the main
• 54:11
  reason is that you love sneakers.
• 54:16
  Outside. at first, it was just from a From an interest of sort
• 54:26
  of the Technologies within them, I would say, obviously that
• 54:29
  first, you know, time when I Was preparing for That interview, it
• 54:33
  was more about, you know, the sports performance aspect to it
• 54:39
  rather than, you know, the fashion aspect.
• 54:45
  Yeah. So I just, I just looked up, you
• 54:47
  know, the running Technologies all that the Air Max and the
• 54:51
  free-run technology. And, you know, the In technology
• 54:55
  and stuff because obviously getting the job as well.
• 54:59
  We had to go through like days of training and learn and all
• 55:01
  this stuff. So we watch like Nike
• 55:04
  documentaries and you know but behind the scenes of them
• 55:08
  designing and making it best for the athletes and stuff because
• 55:12
  there's a lot that goes into it to that to the naked eye.
• 55:15
  You know it just looks I'll this is just a this got a nice shape
• 55:19
  to it. You probably run a bit better in
• 55:20
  it but they are the people that work on this stuff.
• 55:24
  Scientists there they are, you know, they're true Workman there
• 55:30
  you know putting materials to the test and everything.
• 55:32
  So that's one thing that I really took interest in is the
• 55:37
  sort of performance aspect to it and then just getting into that
• 55:40
  kind of world, you know, being more active on Twitter and then
• 55:44
  you know, moving into content I, you know, started getting to
• 55:49
  know more people. There's people that I, you know,
• 55:52
  talk to on a weekly basis. Who are, you know, involved in
• 55:55
  that kind of world and then sort of just after that learn about
• 56:00
  the story behind different shoes, like who wore them why
• 56:06
  they were popular. The have you seen the
• 56:09
  documentary the Michael Jordan? I think it's the last dance.
• 56:12
  It was called net. Is that the one that had the
• 56:14
  meme thing where it's like? It took that personal that thing
• 56:18
  is it? Yeah, well, awesome.
• 56:22
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think.
• 56:24
  I believe so. Yeah I haven't seen it but it
• 56:26
  looks like a very like recent documentary like it's been done
• 56:30
  last couple of. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:32
  Yeah, it was I think last year that came out and obviously I
• 56:36
  knew the whole obviously I wasn't around for it but the
• 56:39
  whole Michael Jordan situation and you know how, what a big
• 56:43
  impact he had on basketball and sneakers in general, but just
• 56:47
  like putting that just to put this into context like everyone
• 56:50
  goes on about, you know, LeBron James like these days Bond
• 56:54
  James, Bond. James Bond James, right?
• 56:56
  Or Kobe, but, like, Michael Jordan was like the LeBron James
• 57:00
  of that in the 90s basically. Like, just the whole, of course,
• 57:03
  meal is more than that, arguably.
• 57:05
  That's people. Yeah, there's people that debate
• 57:07
  like that all the time. I'll it's LeBron the new Michael
• 57:11
  Jordan and like I don't think anyone not any Sportsman has
• 57:16
  ever come close to just just from what I've seen has ever
• 57:20
  come close to the impact that that man had.
• 57:22
  I think it was because mentality As well.
• 57:25
  Yeah, it wasn't just that do like it was his impact on that
• 57:27
  pop culture. I think that's the thing that's
• 57:29
  kind of maybe possibly a bit with like see LeBron.
• 57:31
  Like I know he's obviously involved in different things in
• 57:34
  there is pop culture surrounding him stuff but like you know, I
• 57:37
  mean, Michael Jordan was in like Space Jam for instance and as I
• 57:41
  know, they're making a sequel and it's going to have a lover
• 57:44
  on him and stuff, but I'm just saying, yeah, I was going to say
• 57:47
  that they can another. Yeah, I'm game for it though.
• 57:50
  I'm always game for some. Yeah, 90s Nostalgia and you
• 57:53
  know, Take on it so we'll see. Maybe I'll be good.
• 57:58
  Yeah, yeah, so they yes, I do the Last Dance documentary.
• 58:04
  Obviously, I've sinned, I've sinned, Michael Jordan play, but
• 58:06
  just to put the whole story behind, obviously I wasn't there
• 58:09
  to experience that but that documentary does a really great
• 58:13
  job of highlighting his, you know what, like you said,
• 58:16
  cultural impact, as well as how much of a great athlete.
• 58:20
  He was so just to see that as well.
• 58:23
  I saw Um, I saw the I've Jordan Sevens, I saw he's wearing
• 58:27
  Jordans 7s, when he when he beat, I think it was a Detroit
• 58:31
  Pistons, he beat when they finally beat him.
• 58:33
  I said, I know way, I've got the Jordan Sevens and it's just
• 58:36
  little things like that, that just just sort of make it and
• 58:40
  make it that extra little bit special.
• 58:42
  And then obviously just being so involved like that.
• 58:46
  There's loads of people all over America that I'm sort of in
• 58:51
  contact with on a regular basis and they they are So how's it
• 58:55
  going over the pond, man? Like I'm that little UK friend
• 59:00
  or whatever and just talking about it with them as well, it's
• 59:03
  just really nice. It's about being in a group.
• 59:06
  I know I saw your skateboard in your skateboarding.
• 59:12
  Yeah, you're skateboarding podcast and you said about being
• 59:15
  part of a group and sort of, you know, feeling welcoming and
• 59:19
  feeling part of a movement and part of a group of people.
• 59:23
  So, So I think it is a lot to do with that as well.
• 59:26
  Just obviously I've just explained to you loads of
• 59:28
  different, you know, techniques and helping each other and, you
• 59:32
  know, different terminology and stuff.
• 59:34
  So, just being part of something like that.
• 59:36
  Some people really interested in video games and and, you know
• 59:40
  certain Sports and stuff like that, and anywhere them do, it
• 59:45
  has to be a part of something that I've always been.
• 59:48
  Not to sound like cringy but it's just how my life has turned
• 59:52
  out. I've always been like that kind
• 59:53
  of Lone Wolf thing, it's just happened that way.
• 59:56
  I've always tried to be part of groups but it's just never kind
• 59:58
  of worked out. So I always just kind of learn.
• 1:00:01
  Okay, I just do my own thing, right?
• 1:00:02
  And that's one of the things I laid out with a skateboard and
• 1:00:05
  thing is, it's like it's good because it can be both and I
• 1:00:09
  suppose like in a sense that you can enjoy it on your own and you
• 1:00:12
  can enjoy it with people. Like things are always better
• 1:00:14
  with people like regardless, it's always better to share your
• 1:00:18
  love. Passionate things with other
• 1:00:19
  people, but it's nice that you can also appreciate it on its
• 1:00:23
  own as well. You can be a sneaker collectors
• 1:00:25
  and enthusiasts and like you know that can just be something
• 1:00:29
  you that's just for you and for no one else, right?
• 1:00:33
  So it got I kind of get it in that sense but I think, yeah,
• 1:00:36
  it's probably more enjoyable is to the community aspect of it
• 1:00:44
  and as he that feeds into my next question.
• 1:00:47
  Now I know you've done a video for Or this.
• 1:00:49
  So, for those who haven't seen it, I recommend that you go
• 1:00:53
  check it out. Basically, charge Jack.
• 1:00:55
  We did a video on how the UK and the u.s. trainer scenes compare.
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  There's a really good video very informative and obviously is
• 1:01:03
  from your perspective and stuff and opinion and everything but
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  it's a very good video. I think of kind of demonstrating
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  like of how massive it is in America and then maybe not that
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  it's not as big in the UK but it's just like different Could
• 1:01:19
  you kind of like outline maybe some of those bigger
• 1:01:21
  differences? Like because you said, you've
• 1:01:24
  got friends that kind of rely on you.
• 1:01:26
  They're like hey what's it? What's going on in the UK, kind
• 1:01:28
  of deal. So you're like a source of
• 1:01:30
  information for them but what's the UK scene?
• 1:01:33
  Like? And yeah, how does it compare to
• 1:01:35
  the US? I'll definitely say even just
• 1:01:40
  from a YouTube point of view, there's not the market for a UK
• 1:01:44
  guy has not been filled in the slightest, like I couldn't even
• 1:01:47
  tell you, The biggest guy that that there is no much to use.
• 1:01:52
  It must be. Yeah.
• 1:01:54
  It must be me. So so sorry.
• 1:02:00
  So we're talking about UK versus u.s. also on another side note
• 1:02:04
  from that, I'm thinking about doing sort of a follow-up to
• 1:02:07
  that and like you said like you just mentioned though, it was
• 1:02:11
  obviously just me sort of given my point of view.
• 1:02:15
  So I'm looking to and I've got a few people in mind.
• 1:02:18
  Of invite someone else. I want to talk about it with me
• 1:02:20
  about the differences and give their sort of background as
• 1:02:24
  someone you know. But I'm not going to because he
• 1:02:26
  hasn't said that he will do it yet so I'm I think I have an
• 1:02:29
  idea but yeah, you probably know.
• 1:02:31
  Yeah so yeah so how does it differ?
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  Yeah be I don't know. You probably be wrong to say
• 1:02:39
  that is is smaller and I probably do say that it's not as
• 1:02:42
  simple as influential here and some people did point out to me
• 1:02:46
  and I think I saw did misspeak Speak a little bit because I was
• 1:02:49
  just talking from my son, was your individual kind of figure
• 1:02:54
  was saying. The point of the video is, you
• 1:02:55
  are saying that growing up in your school, your experience was
• 1:02:59
  that, you know, there wasn't really anyone focused on it,
• 1:03:02
  maybe the people playing sports were, but ultimately.
• 1:03:05
  And as we both spoke about earlier, yeah, in the
• 1:03:07
  mainstream. You just, you know, if I walk
• 1:03:09
  down the High Street, now I'm not going to see people walking
• 1:03:12
  around in Jordan's unless they're playing bass.
• 1:03:14
  Yeah, that's the reality here. Whereas, in America, it's Very
• 1:03:18
  likely or find that like just people randomly chilling with
• 1:03:22
  Air Jordans or whatever Yeezys or, you know?
• 1:03:27
  Yeah, so I would say that people aren't as creative or
• 1:03:33
  adventurous, especially in my area, when it comes to what they
• 1:03:38
  can and can't wear. I would say, Obviously, you see
• 1:03:42
  a lot of, you know, you see a lot of bad Chevy's around with
• 1:03:46
  the Air Maxes on stuff that all black.
• 1:03:48
  Back Air Force Ones, Air Max 90 are Max 95 so boring and I do ya
• 1:03:55
  like that, that is great and obviously it goes with a lot and
• 1:03:58
  stuff and it matches sort of the cold and the dirty weather and
• 1:04:01
  everything. So it makes sense, not to just
• 1:04:04
  to be walking around, in bright colors, but then I see your
• 1:04:06
  point, actually be fair play. And then obviously, we've got
• 1:04:11
  like the white that all white Air Force Ones.
• 1:04:13
  Every every teenage girl has those are swear or multiple
• 1:04:18
  pairs. For people buying like two pairs
• 1:04:20
  a year and you know, just throw them away when they're a bit
• 1:04:23
  dirty. But yes, I just say not so much
• 1:04:29
  that it doesn't have as big of an influence.
• 1:04:31
  But I'd say, like, I only saw a handful of people wearing
• 1:04:35
  Jordans at my school and just from, just the way people, like,
• 1:04:40
  you know, sore knee kicks and, and some other like, some other
• 1:04:44
  people, sort of my age, they're into it, over in the USA.
• 1:04:49
  Just from the way they talk about it.
• 1:04:51
  You can tell that it it has more of a day-to-day impact on them
• 1:04:55
  rather than just the people who are, you know, super fans in the
• 1:05:00
  UK, like there was one guy I know played basketball and I
• 1:05:04
  know he had some Jordans and some some I think he played in
• 1:05:09
  some LeBrons, I think he played in, I'm LeBron 17s or something.
• 1:05:15
  And obviously, I took full notice of that because I was
• 1:05:17
  like, wait this But this is weird.
• 1:05:19
  Like how is this? How is this guy?
• 1:05:21
  You know, walking around in these purple and yellow?
• 1:05:25
  LeBron 17? Like this is weird but yeah, I
• 1:05:28
  had another friend who had the Rookie of the Year.
• 1:05:30
  Jordan 1, which is like the brown brown likes of boot.
• 1:05:35
  Look in Jordan, once-over really nice.
• 1:05:36
  He still has those now, I think, but there'd be there because
• 1:05:40
  he'll just I know I'm going to sound like an idiot for this but
• 1:05:43
  like given that I know nothing about this.
• 1:05:46
  We've all of these Jordan shoes. shoes are they all shoes that
• 1:05:51
  Jordan originally played in or is it like some of them are and
• 1:05:54
  then the rest are just designs that have been created under
• 1:05:57
  this brand like, which is a Its a mix actually.
• 1:06:02
  So there are ones that are Retros.
• 1:06:04
  Which are like, you know, original releases.
• 1:06:07
  Their ones that are really sought after and the people that
• 1:06:11
  did grow up in that time, obviously they're going to hold
• 1:06:13
  those two really high regard when it comes to like, how much
• 1:06:16
  they're willing to spend. So, when those pop-up, they'll,
• 1:06:20
  you know, they'll sell how instantly they'll be the ones
• 1:06:22
  that are like, you know, they've gone up from like, 170 pounds up
• 1:06:27
  to like 500 pounds and stuff hex or something like that.
• 1:06:29
  They'll be crazy prices maybe even up to 1,000 if they're like
• 1:06:33
  Jordan 1 or something. That's very you know very
• 1:06:37
  influential that they'll normally be a red and a white
• 1:06:43
  colourway. That is called a red white and
• 1:06:45
  black says bread bread colorway basically.
• 1:06:49
  So it's a red color way because of obviously the Chicago Bulls.
• 1:06:52
  So a lot of a lot of his shoes were just red white and blue and
• 1:06:55
  black. So when you see when you see
• 1:06:58
  colorway is Like the base color then.
• 1:07:01
  So it's like red shoe pry, the way is just the color
• 1:07:06
  combination, basically. Okay.
• 1:07:09
  Think I'm learning. So that's how that's how I think
• 1:07:11
  about it. So, it'll be like old, it's the
• 1:07:14
  Jordan 1 in a bread colorway, which is basically black red and
• 1:07:19
  white colourway and then people people will generally the trend
• 1:07:25
  is that red will sell better, they'll sell the best just
• 1:07:28
  because he was Chicago, I was ready.
• 1:07:30
  He might to fight him red. Then they'll be some that he
• 1:07:34
  didn't play in that are very like limited there aren't
• 1:07:40
  necessarily read and they'll be some from ages ago.
• 1:07:42
  They'll be new ones that people really like.
• 1:07:45
  So there is a mix of new and old designs.
• 1:07:48
  But people do people do especially gravitate towards the
• 1:07:54
  Retros. They and some people exclusively
• 1:07:58
  lot, obviously some rich people and stuff.
• 1:07:59
  If they exclusively look for just the Retro.
• 1:08:02
  The Retro shoes. Basically.
• 1:08:04
  Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
• 1:08:08
  I just, I feel like I'm learning so much.
• 1:08:10
  I knew I would learn from this, but I just, yeah, it's just
• 1:08:12
  interesting to like, pick your brains about all this a bit
• 1:08:16
  more, you know, and also, sorry with I'll just add this on.
• 1:08:20
  Just to give a little bit more information, but it with the
• 1:08:23
  Retros. So obviously, because they'll be
• 1:08:27
  manufactured in different years and They'll be slightly
• 1:08:31
  different. They're obviously supposed to be
• 1:08:33
  the same shoe, but it'll be slightly different.
• 1:08:35
  And because people are more particular about, you know, are
• 1:08:39
  these, you know, 1990s, Jordan Ones are they 2013?
• 1:08:45
  Jordan one's life that. What addition they are.
• 1:08:47
  So, they'll be listed on that stock X or Ebay.
• 1:08:51
  Basically, with a lot of emphasis on what year, what
• 1:08:54
  years released, they are if you get what I mean.
• 1:08:56
  Okay, people obviously like the old.
• 1:08:59
  This one's are there. They're like you know you can't
• 1:09:03
  even find them on sale so they could be feasibility.
• 1:09:06
  People would be like oh yeah yeah the the 95s are like
• 1:09:10
  Classics and then someone goes. Oh they're 99 stare trash, you
• 1:09:13
  don't want him like there's a formula.
• 1:09:14
  Yeah, say yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 1:09:17
  I'll be like, older the day, they used cheap a lever on the
• 1:09:21
  the newer version. So yeah, they're like the poor
• 1:09:23
  man's versions even though they're still selling for like
• 1:09:26
  500 pounds, like it, you know, people That aren't sort of rule
• 1:09:30
  book that they live by whether what they're allowed to buy what
• 1:09:33
  they can't. Some people will say this.
• 1:09:36
  Wow. No I just mean like, some people
• 1:09:39
  will sort of like a religion they'll stick to like, I'm only
• 1:09:43
  going to wear my team's Colours. I'm only going to wear Retros.
• 1:09:49
  I'm only going to wear things. That draw them actually wore
• 1:09:52
  himself cause I'm going to say and just just felt like the
• 1:09:57
  Jordan 1. For example, this is another
• 1:09:59
  example of how People Define it, they have and I'm sure because I
• 1:10:03
  heard you talking about your skate shoes, right?
• 1:10:06
  Thusly and stuff like that. And I know Vance their skate
• 1:10:11
  shoe right fans very much. Wow, they have a lot hotter.
• 1:10:15
  You know they have high top and low top and it's the same with
• 1:10:20
  like Jordan Ones and some other Jordan models they'll have like
• 1:10:22
  a high top version and mid top version and a low top.
• 1:10:26
  It's funny you mention that as well actually, I knew about this
• 1:10:30
  Growing up, when I was a skateboarder because I had some
• 1:10:34
  points, I did actually have, they won't exactly basketball
• 1:10:38
  shoes, but they were high tops low tops.
• 1:10:42
  That are, like, I really liked the high tops.
• 1:10:46
  I wear a lot of like Nike High Tops or oh God, I can't remember
• 1:10:51
  the brands but they were like, I'm always American brands.
• 1:10:53
  They will always look really expensive.
• 1:10:55
  Like at least 50 or 60 base price.
• 1:10:59
  But they were great for skateboarding in and that, like,
• 1:11:02
  for me, I would always get them based on obviously the look and
• 1:11:06
  stuff. But like, how you could skate on
• 1:11:09
  them, because like certain shoes were actually trash.
• 1:11:11
  Like, if you got there some people that stand by wearing
• 1:11:15
  things like Etnies and you know the bulk shoes, the they look
• 1:11:19
  horrible but they're like really bulky skate shoes that are like
• 1:11:23
  fat. They're like look firm.
• 1:11:26
  You know me, I see that. Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  They're kind of like a Jordan sort of size.
• 1:11:29
  Is as a, not how bulky they are. Is that right?
• 1:11:32
  Like, you see a lot of luck? A is it d.c. the brand?
• 1:11:35
  Yeah. See, they have a lot of like,
• 1:11:36
  fat fat skate shoes. Don't they, rather than it's
• 1:11:40
  like died when I had back in the early 2000s?
• 1:11:43
  When I was growing up they had like this, the style.
• 1:11:46
  It was like really popular. I always hated that style
• 1:11:49
  though. I was always more into like the
• 1:11:51
  Nita Vans or the of the Nikes of the are nikias and all that
• 1:11:56
  stuff, because it looked better and it was easier to skate on.
• 1:11:59
  On as well. Like the bulky ones, I was going
• 1:12:02
  to say it must be. It must be hard to get those two
• 1:12:05
  to make tricks in the big shoot shortly.
• 1:12:08
  Will some people know, that's the thing.
• 1:12:09
  Some people think like make the account or argument that it's
• 1:12:12
  easier in those shoes. And I've skated with both and I
• 1:12:15
  always personally preferred like skating with Nikes and sin.
• 1:12:19
  Like, because it was tighter. I felt like I have more control
• 1:12:21
  on the board and stuff but it's just an individual perspective.
• 1:12:25
  I suppose it's the same as like basketball shoes.
• 1:12:27
  You know like people swear by different.
• 1:12:29
  I always thought it's better for my playing blah, blah, blah.
• 1:12:32
  It's probably the same thing. But point is anyway, I
• 1:12:35
  discovered about all of this stuff as well.
• 1:12:38
  I just didn't realize that it was kind of similar and with
• 1:12:42
  basketball shoes. Like I thought I was just a
• 1:12:44
  skateboarding thing. Yeah, it's cool.
• 1:12:47
  Well with with the Jordan 1, high tops and mid tops and low
• 1:12:51
  tops. It's not even down to lockup
• 1:12:53
  performance preference. Like you're talking about, oh,
• 1:12:55
  it's easier to do tricks in these and stuff.
• 1:12:59
  People. People hate like there's some
• 1:13:02
  people that absolutely hate mid top, Jordan Ones and if I'm
• 1:13:06
  honest the the difference between then them and a high is
• 1:13:11
  I think one or two, you know, lace holes, it's about an inch
• 1:13:17
  taller for the highs and they're pretty much the same other than
• 1:13:20
  that. And there are people that
• 1:13:22
  they'll bully people that were missed.
• 1:13:24
  I don't know why it's nothing to do with performance or
• 1:13:29
  stability. It's hear anything, it's purely
• 1:13:31
  just a fashion decision. But people say like even though
• 1:13:35
  we're a high, some people like the lows and then like, they're
• 1:13:39
  very, it's very rare to see people actually looking out for,
• 1:13:43
  you know, amidst release like not.
• 1:13:45
  A lot of people care about midst.
• 1:13:47
  It's weird. I think I think it's just
• 1:13:48
  because they're not like original sort of they're not
• 1:13:52
  they're not look really recognized as our original sort
• 1:13:56
  of shoes. Obviously I don't believe anyone
• 1:13:58
  really played And in mid Jordan Ones.
• 1:14:01
  So, I think people just sort of disregard those, I think so.
• 1:14:06
  Yeah, just went out of fashion, you know?
• 1:14:08
  Me cause like, I remember, you know, Converse shoes that the
• 1:14:12
  original Converse shoes, right? Yeah, they're owned by Nike
• 1:14:16
  Converse, yeah. Last word I didn't know that.
• 1:14:19
  Yeah, I owned a parados back in the early 2000s and I did my
• 1:14:23
  research on them, and I found out because they became a think
• 1:14:25
  they became popular because like green day and a bunch of other
• 1:14:28
  punk band started. Wearing them They basically had
• 1:14:30
  a Resurgence, but they were originally made part of because
• 1:14:35
  basketball shoes actually in like, yeah, these yeah.
• 1:14:37
  They are. Yeah, that's like 1950s or
• 1:14:40
  something. And I was like, wow.
• 1:14:42
  Like so old and point being that they had that Resurgence. 50
• 1:14:46
  years later, but like, I don't see anyone wearing them now.
• 1:14:50
  I see people wearing Converse but not those original ones.
• 1:14:53
  They wear like they are, aren't they?
• 1:14:56
  They're called one Stars. The original basketball.
• 1:14:58
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:00
  Like you wouldn't see anyone caught dead in the originals
• 1:15:02
  now, like everyone's wearing the vital ones that look more like
• 1:15:06
  the Vans, I guess. Yeah.
• 1:15:09
  So I guess they've gone out of popularity but they were huge
• 1:15:13
  like when I was a teen like everyone had them.
• 1:15:15
  Like I had like two different colors.
• 1:15:17
  I think I had like black and some other color.
• 1:15:21
  Some people had like ridiculous, red green blue is really weird
• 1:15:25
  but you know whatever. Yeah, cool man.
• 1:15:30
  It's weird how people make their rules and stuff.
• 1:15:33
  Just, it's just bizarre to me. I wear, whatever the fuck you
• 1:15:37
  want, like, what, why did I have to be there?
• 1:15:39
  But that's mad. But okay, let's because I want
• 1:15:44
  to ask more about, you know, your your preference at what
• 1:15:48
  qualities. Do you in your opinion?
• 1:15:50
  Make the perfect sneaker. the perfect maker I've got, but from
• 1:15:57
  another perspective, Because there are no one's I don't think
• 1:16:01
  but you know, your you got a good kind of head for this.
• 1:16:09
  Outside. Personally, I don't the
• 1:16:13
  silhouette basically the silhouette as in the model.
• 1:16:15
  What what is basically, what the shoe is?
• 1:16:19
  It doesn't really matter to me that much, as long as it's, you
• 1:16:22
  know, it's something that I like, so Jordan.
• 1:16:25
  I like or an MX said, I like that.
• 1:16:27
  I like is fine. It's more about the color for me
• 1:16:30
  to be honest. Like a lot of people say, no, no
• 1:16:34
  Jordan one mid. No, Jordan one knows, but if
• 1:16:37
  there's a nice color in those, Those then oh I'll pick up like
• 1:16:43
  and if I think I can pull it off as something, they're not then
• 1:16:45
  I'll pick it up. So like for example and that
• 1:16:48
  doesn't mean colors. That means like the absence of
• 1:16:51
  color as well. So that I've got some Nike, SB
• 1:16:54
  Nike, SB s like skateboarding shoes basically, I used to have
• 1:16:58
  those. So yeah, that's it.
• 1:17:01
  Yes, the small little compact, small little compact, sort of
• 1:17:06
  Vans Style, And basically the whole upper.
• 1:17:10
  So, the whole sort of material part of the shoe basically, is
• 1:17:15
  just all black. The soul is all white and it's,
• 1:17:18
  that's it, but it's so simple and I can wear them with
• 1:17:22
  anything and you know, they're not the most country in the
• 1:17:25
  world. But you know, you get that you
• 1:17:27
  get the SB van sort of look and and it's simple.
• 1:17:30
  And then I've also got Air Max 95, which are You know, you know
• 1:17:36
  I'm actually files, right? Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  Yes, I am accidentally fives, kind of like a bulky issue and
• 1:17:44
  the bottom, obviously the soul is all white, the top bright,
• 1:17:49
  yellow, bright blue, so I'm going to let the Bumblebee
• 1:17:52
  theme, you know? And yeah, so basically with that
• 1:17:57
  I'm just saying like, I like bulky, you know, slim or loads
• 1:18:02
  of color, no, color the recent, Jordan, Jordan force that I got.
• 1:18:07
  They have like metallic red on them all.
• 1:18:09
  Why? Like so it's just a lot of a lot
• 1:18:11
  of difference being creative as well.
• 1:18:16
  I picked up some, it's basically a hybrid shoe.
• 1:18:19
  They don't do this this often, but it was a collaboration
• 1:18:21
  between Nike and a brand called patter.
• 1:18:25
  Then if you've heard of that brand, they did like a custom
• 1:18:29
  shoe sort of, you know, sort of promotion the collaboration sort
• 1:18:35
  of thing and it was basically the upper of an Air Max 90.
• 1:18:39
  E on the sole of an Air Max 95 or you could have it the other
• 1:18:43
  way around and you could pick pretty much from a few colors on
• 1:18:47
  each part of the shoe, which what you wanted it to be what
• 1:18:50
  you wanted it to look like. And yeah, I picked all different
• 1:18:56
  like I've made it. The most goofy-looking thing I
• 1:18:58
  possibly could just because I wanted to be different and I
• 1:19:02
  highly doubt because obviously they made it to order like they
• 1:19:05
  made your specific design, how you wanted it.
• 1:19:09
  So, I just wanted mine to be like, one of a kind only, I've
• 1:19:14
  got him on, so, so yeah. I'm not afraid to just put a bit
• 1:19:18
  of color on there. I know some people especially in
• 1:19:20
  the UK I've seen. Just wear all black or white,
• 1:19:24
  but yeah, just anything. I know I just pretty much martyr
• 1:19:28
  was anything, but I can see the beauty in any anything man.
• 1:19:32
  You know, then, and you spoke a lot about like, obviously, you
• 1:19:36
  work for Nike many of the trainer's that you like on
• 1:19:39
  nights, like trainers as well, but I kind of, I'm kind of
• 1:19:43
  interested as to your thoughts on the gun, the great debate.
• 1:19:45
  So to speak. Like wearing, where do you sit
• 1:19:47
  with Adidas versus night? Like, where's your head at?
• 1:19:53
  Outside trust. My team is Nike.
• 1:19:57
  I have to say, I've shied away from sort of saying that before,
• 1:20:01
  but I'm pretty much hand on heart.
• 1:20:03
  Say, like, I pay more attention to Nike, I care more about Nike
• 1:20:08
  releases and just from having that experience of work in there
• 1:20:13
  and maybe if I had if in an alternate reality, I walked into
• 1:20:18
  a DDOS that day instead of Nike, or they called me back about TV
• 1:20:22
  or whatever. Maybe it, maybe it be the other
• 1:20:25
  way round button. Yeah.
• 1:20:27
  Just as of right now I just think added us has some really
• 1:20:31
  nice design stay. I like some of the Yeezys, I
• 1:20:34
  like some of the like bulky added us designs and stuff.
• 1:20:37
  But just in general, I don't pay as much attention to those one
• 1:20:44
  thing. I'm not sure if it is the figure
• 1:20:45
  now, but or I don't, I'm not sure if this is true now, but
• 1:20:49
  when I was working for Nike, I remember reading that And so
• 1:20:53
  obviously this was a few years ago that the biggest brand like,
• 1:20:57
  the biggest Footwear brand in the world is Nike.
• 1:21:00
  Yeah. And the second biggest, the
• 1:21:02
  second biggest Footwear brand in the world is Jordan.
• 1:21:08
  Yeah, those must be really mean. So I mean a lead us as the
• 1:21:14
  competitor. I'm not sure if that's the case
• 1:21:16
  now, but like the fact that their third place to Nike Brands
• 1:21:22
  is Like, I think it says quite a lot about how much like there
• 1:21:27
  are definitely more team. Like, you people out there,
• 1:21:29
  like, 100% I gotta say, as well. Like, uh, obviously, like, I
• 1:21:33
  don't know a lot about this, but I hear a lot more about Nike
• 1:21:37
  Jordans. All of that stuff.
• 1:21:39
  I never really hear about added us making like, similar stuff.
• 1:21:43
  I'm sure they do but it's just, I don't really hear a lot about
• 1:21:46
  that. Jen.
• 1:21:47
  And I mean there's no backup for instance.
• 1:21:49
  I've never seen you really talk about like all the added ask
• 1:21:52
  her. Lab.
• 1:21:52
  Like, maybe you have for me, I always notice the night ones or
• 1:21:56
  the joins or something like that, so maybe it's just, you
• 1:22:00
  know. Yeah.
• 1:22:00
  I think maybe maybe your maybe, what you've seen.
• 1:22:05
  That's just been based on what I've spoken about.
• 1:22:07
  Maybe. So maybe my opinion and me sort
• 1:22:10
  of neglecting added as a sort of rubbed off on you.
• 1:22:14
  But now I heard like a just in general as well like in stores
• 1:22:17
  or people that I know or whatever.
• 1:22:18
  Like I never see. I did ask.
• 1:22:20
  Yeah, at least in the same in the same way or I don't know,
• 1:22:27
  maybe I'm not really articulating this very well but
• 1:22:29
  you get what I mean, right? I do get what you mean.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah. I think and that is sort of like
• 1:22:33
  a snowball effect as well. Like you hear about it less.
• 1:22:35
  So you think about it less? And then right?
• 1:22:38
  Yeah. You know, you're so I but I do,
• 1:22:41
  you know, I don't hate added ass.
• 1:22:43
  I don't, I have some added us sneak as well, but just in terms
• 1:22:48
  of light upcoming releases Stuff is, unless there's something
• 1:22:52
  really groundbreaking. I'm not overly fast about added
• 1:22:55
  us, to be honest. Fair enough.
• 1:22:57
  Fair enough. Well, let's let's switch it up a
• 1:23:00
  bit and we'll come back to sneakers a little bit, but let's
• 1:23:03
  talk about something else outside of YouTube.
• 1:23:06
  What are your main interests and you know, what do you do for
• 1:23:09
  fun? Okay, so I've been I've been
• 1:23:15
  training in Taekwondo for five or six years.
• 1:23:18
  Now, believe it's about five and a half years.
• 1:23:22
  So that's been something that I've been doing.
• 1:23:24
  I've to be honest for the first few years, I didn't really take
• 1:23:28
  overly seriously, but just recently, I've really been sort
• 1:23:32
  of looking at how to improve myself how to improve you know
• 1:23:37
  my techniques and stuff and I've got a couple little Things lined
• 1:23:42
  up that one spoke about which I think of very exciting.
• 1:23:46
  So and then also on top of that. Me and a friend started a
• 1:23:52
  Brazilian jiu-jitsu class which we were sort of yeah
• 1:23:57
  christianize. He knows we were sort of, I'd
• 1:24:03
  say encouraged to do that just because I've hit my friend.
• 1:24:07
  I side with it with. He's helped me a lot, he's
• 1:24:10
  helped me. Me for a lot of personal stuff
• 1:24:12
  and everything and I just think like we're both talking about
• 1:24:16
  how we could really challenge ourselves.
• 1:24:18
  I think you can't really grow unless you really put yourself
• 1:24:21
  through something that you don't want to do and the start of this
• 1:24:24
  year. And I, when I, when I became
• 1:24:26
  like less active in talking to you and stuff, I really took a
• 1:24:30
  interest in my physical fitness pushing myself and I've been,
• 1:24:34
  I've read like more books than I've ever read.
• 1:24:37
  I've, I've like studied more. I did like online.
• 1:24:41
  Isn't stuff and I've already pushed myself and I my friend
• 1:24:44
  that I started that with we're both talking and and he helped
• 1:24:47
  me through a lot and stuff. And he suggested, why don't we
• 1:24:50
  start? This Brazilian jiu-jitsu class
• 1:24:52
  is apparently the hardest martial art in the world.
• 1:24:55
  Apparently, 90% of people don't make it past white belt, which,
• 1:25:00
  you know, it's a big achievement in itself to even like make it
• 1:25:04
  past that. But just the fact that a lot of
• 1:25:06
  people can't even, you know, it's a massive learning curve.
• 1:25:11
  It's it challenges you to move in a different way so yeah,
• 1:25:17
  that's something that I've started quite recently as well
• 1:25:21
  but I've made short. You you just dropped a video
• 1:25:23
  which you which you sent to me just before we did the podcast
• 1:25:26
  and I watched it and it was really, really good for.
• 1:25:28
  So, for anyone who who wants to go check that out.
• 1:25:31
  It's basically a one-month progress video of Charles Jaco
• 1:25:35
  doing Bridget Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and it's a really,
• 1:25:38
  really good video because I think it kind of out Finds some
• 1:25:42
  of the reasons why you said you got into it and also like, you
• 1:25:45
  know, you really kind of go into detail about the discipline and
• 1:25:48
  like the kind, the kind of Fitness level you need to be at
• 1:25:51
  when you go into it and what to expect, what to avoid, what
• 1:25:55
  people's attitudes are, like all of this really interesting
• 1:25:57
  insight and I guess I guess I like the only question I had
• 1:26:02
  with that. It was like these tricky because
• 1:26:06
  you really did go into quite a lot of detail anyway so it's not
• 1:26:09
  much. I could ask you but I wanted to
• 1:26:11
  You know like just your progress in general like I guess your
• 1:26:14
  overall feeling about like for instance I didn't know that you
• 1:26:17
  already did Ty Condos for so long.
• 1:26:19
  So you already have like that bass, kind of understanding
• 1:26:23
  because I've done a little bit of martial arts and I know that,
• 1:26:26
  you know, you have to have discipline is very, very
• 1:26:30
  important, integral to it like it's so much more about the mind
• 1:26:34
  and the discipline then then physicality of it's like you got
• 1:26:37
  a master that stuff first. Before you even get to the
• 1:26:41
  physicality stuff and then obviously course.
• 1:26:43
  Yeah, right. And then there's all the other
• 1:26:45
  stuff with like, like for instance, you gave a really cool
• 1:26:49
  pointer in the video where you say that, you know, you grew up
• 1:26:51
  doing rugby and you had to basically like retrain because
• 1:26:56
  there's something you did with like, your head and like, you
• 1:26:58
  basically, you kept getting, I think you said, like, you got
• 1:27:02
  tackled or like Tate like takeovers were too easy.
• 1:27:05
  So you had basically other people were telling you, hey,
• 1:27:08
  stop talking. Your head, because that makes it
• 1:27:11
  easier for a take that's, you're basically having to retrain your
• 1:27:15
  muscle memory. That's, yeah, that's what you
• 1:27:16
  are saying in the video. And interesting.
• 1:27:19
  So yeah, so, so with that, if that, if anyone hasn't seen it
• 1:27:23
  already, it's Jiu-Jitsu is is grappling.
• 1:27:28
  It's sort of to someone who doesn't know.
• 1:27:31
  Really even what Zhu Jiu Jitsu looks like.
• 1:27:34
  Think of sort of wrestling submissions you know headlocks
• 1:27:38
  and And you know, manipulate and Limbs, and stuff to, you know,
• 1:27:43
  for someone to tap out so it's no punch in its no kick in, its
• 1:27:47
  no striking of any nature, it's some takedowns and then it's
• 1:27:52
  really like a chess is a chess game.
• 1:27:54
  Basically move against move, he's got my arm, I need to, you
• 1:28:00
  know, create a frame, and get out of that.
• 1:28:02
  I need to, you know, use certain leverage because my arms here,
• 1:28:06
  and I can, you know, tip him onto his back and You know, so
• 1:28:10
  it's very physical and that's how it differs from Taekwondo,
• 1:28:13
  which is very, you know. I'm, I'm all set all the way up
• 1:28:17
  here. I'm kicking from a distance, I'm
• 1:28:19
  retreating, and I'm kicking again.
• 1:28:20
  It's, it is very difficult and it requires a whole different
• 1:28:24
  strength to begin with. It's definitely less, you get
• 1:28:30
  less contact in something like taekwondo or karate or
• 1:28:33
  something, when where you're striking, and then sort of
• 1:28:36
  playing tactfully whereas in Jiu-Jitsu It's literally all
• 1:28:41
  guns blazing, you know, dudes. Like he's accidentally elbow me
• 1:28:46
  in the face, I'm getting caught up and stuff.
• 1:28:48
  I'm Brew like people like you do it there are different styles
• 1:28:52
  like those gay or no GE GE is like the suit.
• 1:28:55
  The, you know, the suit that you wear the sort of Martial Arts
• 1:28:59
  uniform with the guy, obviously, you can do a lot of sort of, you
• 1:29:05
  can get controlled by grabbing them on the collar and stuff
• 1:29:08
  like that. And people are literally like
• 1:29:13
  it. You're so chaotic that they're
• 1:29:15
  grabbing you by this like the skin, like they're grabbing you
• 1:29:17
  through the thing on the skin. I've got massive hand marks all
• 1:29:21
  over my arms and stuff. Like it's, it's mad like, it's
• 1:29:25
  very aggressive. Like, we're, I'm getting, I'm
• 1:29:27
  taking accidentally taken like, knees and elbows to the face.
• 1:29:30
  I'm, you know, I'm seeing the light, I'm getting choked out, I
• 1:29:34
  can't feel my legs and yeah. Man, I'm all over the place so
• 1:29:40
  where are we? So yeah, so it definitely
• 1:29:44
  requires something very different and yeah, there was a
• 1:29:49
  lot of stuff that needs to be unlearned when it came to sort
• 1:29:52
  of my past experience is I played rugby for about three
• 1:29:55
  years, maybe three or four years.
• 1:30:00
  Never, really took that too seriously.
• 1:30:01
  But one thing I was good at was tackling and sort of being in
• 1:30:05
  the scrum and stuff. So, So of putting your head down
• 1:30:09
  low there in your shoulder, and it's not really advisable in
• 1:30:12
  Jiu-Jitsu just because you're sort of open yourself up to sort
• 1:30:16
  of like a headlock or some kind of take down, you're putting
• 1:30:19
  yourself in a really bad position by sort of letting your
• 1:30:22
  head go under their armpit, basically, which is going to get
• 1:30:26
  you in a headlock like, even to someone who's not trained at
• 1:30:29
  all. It's, it's a bad position
• 1:30:31
  position to be in. But obviously, in that situation
• 1:30:34
  you're not thinking about what you're doing, it's all muscle.
• 1:30:37
  Marie. That's all any of this is muscle
• 1:30:39
  memory so it's a mistake that I made countless times and yeah.
• 1:30:44
  So we've shown that I just wanted to sort of highlight that
• 1:30:50
  you know, people that they're helpful in that in that regard.
• 1:30:53
  And yeah, that's a I just wanted to make people aware that.
• 1:30:58
  It's okay to mess up, especially when you're starting.
• 1:31:02
  And obviously even people as great as me, make mistakes
• 1:31:05
  sometimes, You think with because obviously yeah you said
• 1:31:10
  that you studied Taekwondo for many years beforehand and
• 1:31:14
  obviously just started with you. Did you Jutsu do you have like a
• 1:31:17
  plan with this as far as like you plan on may be moving into
• 1:31:21
  my maybe amateur fighting or something like that or is this
• 1:31:24
  just a purely like personal thing that you just trying to
• 1:31:27
  better yourself with or like, is there any plan with that?
• 1:31:32
  Okay. So with the Jiu-Jitsu that is
• 1:31:36
  mainly a personal sort of it was the I I'm I'm I'm a busy person.
• 1:31:42
  I'd need to be moving at all times.
• 1:31:44
  So, with adding Jiu-Jitsu to my schedule that's giving me four
• 1:31:51
  or five days a week where I'm I'm doing martial arts training,
• 1:31:56
  four or five days a week, so either it's Taekwondo or
• 1:31:59
  Jiu-Jitsu and that's 45. In a row.
• 1:32:02
  So that's really pushing myself and and on top of that, I do on
• 1:32:07
  my lunch breaks because I'm working from home currently.
• 1:32:10
  I have a little sort of, I've a little sort of a gym set up in
• 1:32:14
  my garage. I've got some some dumbbells,
• 1:32:18
  I've got a punching bag, I've got some weights and stuff, so I
• 1:32:21
  do about an hour, 45 minutes of our weight session on my lunch
• 1:32:26
  break like while I have a break and then from about 7:00 to 29.
• 1:32:32
  I do 7:00 to 9:00 at night. I do, martial, arts training.
• 1:32:37
  So I'm getting I'm getting a good few hours a day and but
• 1:32:42
  thus and even still I'm sometimes I go to bed and I
• 1:32:46
  think I could have given it more.
• 1:32:49
  I could have given it more so but and I know I sort of glossed
• 1:32:53
  over it and I'm all over the place and I don't know how well
• 1:32:55
  this is going to translate into what I'm thinking and what I'm
• 1:32:57
  still fine, man. You do fine.
• 1:32:59
  Don't worry. I'm not going to say his name,
• 1:33:03
  but I will lot to my friend who sort of got me into that and
• 1:33:06
  stuff and I've had conversations with him about like, where I'd
• 1:33:10
  be if it wasn't for him, but he's doing certain things with
• 1:33:14
  jiu-jitsu that he's thinking about sort of how his career is
• 1:33:19
  going to progress and stuff and right.
• 1:33:21
  Sort of looking into that more of a disciplined lifestyle where
• 1:33:24
  I'm just doing it for just the fitness aspect and taking.
• 1:33:29
  I'm taking a Taekwondo a little bit.
• 1:33:31
  Cersei custom Bella of course? Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:33:34
  Yeah please. Yeah.
• 1:33:35
  So I think. Yeah, other than that, like,
• 1:33:38
  Jiu-Jitsu just a bit fun. I'm just trying to sort of
• 1:33:42
  experience, something new. Try something and see where it
• 1:33:44
  goes. I'll probably do some
• 1:33:45
  competitions and stuff, but since taking Taekwondo little
• 1:33:49
  bit more seriously, I've I've sort of been talking with my
• 1:33:53
  teacher, my master, a little bit more and stuff just basically
• 1:33:57
  trying to get all the training in.
• 1:33:58
  I can and everything. And he sort of Advised me to go
• 1:34:02
  for it. So I can't remember the exact
• 1:34:05
  term for, it's like a talent acquisition day, okay?
• 1:34:09
  So, sort of like a sort of like a trial day, I saw that showing
• 1:34:13
  I've got they and it's with a with the company sort of over
• 1:34:18
  overlooks. The the Taekwondo is British
• 1:34:21
  Taekwondo basically. So overlooks the tire combo,
• 1:34:25
  teamed the Taekwondo, you know, teaching all over Britain.
• 1:34:29
  And so, they'll be people That who are present people from the
• 1:34:32
  Olympics and stuff. And it's basically a day where
• 1:34:37
  they'll sort of see who if anyone's fit to join the GB
• 1:34:41
  team. So that's something that I'm
• 1:34:43
  actually working towards right now.
• 1:34:45
  I'm wow, he's giving me like, he's doubling down my training.
• 1:34:49
  He's like, I'm, you know, I'm trying to that's what I'm doing.
• 1:34:53
  That's why I said, look, I'm doing like white session.
• 1:34:55
  I'm doing two hours of training a day.
• 1:34:58
  I'm really trying to take this seriously.
• 1:34:59
  And even if I don't like, Make it.
• 1:35:02
  I'm just going to give it and really like test myself and see
• 1:35:06
  how well I can do on the day and see how close I can get.
• 1:35:09
  But you know, even if it's not, even if 20/20 isn't my year, I'm
• 1:35:14
  going to, you know, try again, next year.
• 1:35:17
  I want to try and lose them and things like that and it's
• 1:35:19
  experiences. Well, I even even if the day
• 1:35:22
  after that, I just I just quit. Like, I'll be able to say, like
• 1:35:26
  I went to this, you know, this event, I met this certain
• 1:35:30
  person. So, yeah, that's something that
• 1:35:33
  I wanted to sort of share on. I wanted to make sure I said it
• 1:35:37
  when someone else was there. Just so if you have any
• 1:35:39
  questions or maybe I missed something, but I just want to.
• 1:35:44
  Yeah, I just I'm going to sort of be and that's what to do.
• 1:35:47
  Jiu Jitsu thing was about is I want to sort of start
• 1:35:50
  documenting my journey where I'm going and stuff and the people.
• 1:35:54
  I'm meeting everything and sort of add that sort of conversation
• 1:35:58
  conversation into my story. Hmm.
• 1:36:01
  To hopefully help other people and help myself.
• 1:36:04
  And yeah, so that's one thing I'm working towards also, I've
• 1:36:10
  had some talks with my teacher my master about because he's
• 1:36:15
  not, he's not old but he's, you know, he's get he's getting on a
• 1:36:18
  little bit and he laughs about that and stuff and says, a
• 1:36:20
  whole, I'm too old for this and stuff, you know, it's a bit of
• 1:36:23
  The Karate Kid and mr. Miyagi, you know I'm saying so
• 1:36:27
  he says, oh, you know, I'm not going to be, I'm not gonna be
• 1:36:31
  here. Forever.
• 1:36:33
  So, like I need someone to leave this this sort of Dojo to well
• 1:36:38
  when I'm gonna Apprentice. So yeah, he basically just said
• 1:36:44
  now that I'm sort of taking it more, seriously, I'm sort of,
• 1:36:48
  I've helped, I've helped with some sort of warm-ups, of some
• 1:36:51
  of the lower grades and stuff and he sort of seeing my
• 1:36:54
  progress. He's basically offered to sort
• 1:36:56
  of Teach Me How To Train people, sort of have more of a teacher,
• 1:37:01
  Enroll within it, and that will take, that will take away the
• 1:37:04
  cost of, like me having to pay to, you know, pay to train.
• 1:37:10
  Because I'll be technically an employee kind of like, well,
• 1:37:14
  obviously working for free, but, but obviously, learned be
• 1:37:18
  genetic a food chain in. Yes.
• 1:37:20
  Yeah. Like so, yeah.
• 1:37:22
  So that's something that I'm sort of doing, as well.
• 1:37:25
  So, I've been sort of shooting a few, so you thinking, like,
• 1:37:30
  maybe that Could become like a fully full construct.
• 1:37:35
  Maybe like this could be like a money spinner on the side for
• 1:37:37
  you or potentially even the main money interest in the future is
• 1:37:41
  that consider. Exactly.
• 1:37:43
  Okay. And that and that, that brings
• 1:37:46
  us full circle to keeping every single door open that you
• 1:37:49
  possibly can. Right?
• 1:37:51
  You know. That's it's about making.
• 1:37:54
  Every opportunity you possibly can whether it's, you know,
• 1:37:59
  keeping in contact with sneaker people.
• 1:38:01
  Or you know making sure your taekwondo Master likes you that
• 1:38:04
  little bit more like is about. It's about keeping every single
• 1:38:08
  option open to you but it's yeah, no it's definitely Eva
• 1:38:14
  could be on the side thing, the particular teacher.
• 1:38:18
  Who said this to me he has hundreds of students so he's
• 1:38:23
  very successful. I'd be you know, lucky to even
• 1:38:26
  get that experience of helping him sort of sort of develop
• 1:38:31
  Class and everything. But obviously I've got a lot of,
• 1:38:34
  I've got a long way to go, you know, things and Depends
• 1:38:38
  obviously depends what happens at this an Olympic team, GB sort
• 1:38:41
  of day or, you know, you know, life gets in the way but this
• 1:38:48
  week, actually, I've got an upcoming.
• 1:38:50
  It's basically a grade in like, a Belgrade in for some of the
• 1:38:54
  younger lower grade students. So I'm going along to that even
• 1:39:00
  though I don't have to Ooh, I'm gonna have the microphone.
• 1:39:03
  Yeah, I'm going to say, Reddit position, ready front kick and
• 1:39:08
  then, you know, give the command and say, you know, say certain
• 1:39:12
  things in Korean and tell him know how and stuff.
• 1:39:16
  So, it's just about getting that little bit of experience again,
• 1:39:19
  and it could go, it could go incredibly well or it could, you
• 1:39:22
  know, just be a little hobby on the side but it's just a few
• 1:39:27
  extra little things that because I said, I like to be busy but To
• 1:39:31
  keep everyone updated on how certain things go.
• 1:39:34
  So it should be good. Yeah, I know.
• 1:39:37
  I mean that sounds amazing. Like I'm really hit glad to hear
• 1:39:41
  that and I'm particularly glad the like how it's affected your
• 1:39:45
  your mindset positively. I think that's probably the
• 1:39:48
  biggest takeaway here is exciting.
• 1:39:50
  Like you know to hear all of this.
• 1:39:52
  Like I'm really I really really hope you do well and hopefully
• 1:39:55
  get maybe going to team me and you never know, you never know.
• 1:39:59
  Hopefully that's the dream but obviously anywhere even coming
• 1:40:03
  that that's 100% even coming to like 70. 50% even.
• 1:40:08
  Yeah, you know being better than you were the day before.
• 1:40:10
  Like it's it's important just to keep aiming for something that's
• 1:40:15
  so Out Of Reach This impossible and then Landing halfway up the
• 1:40:18
  hill. You've still done an amazing
• 1:40:20
  job. So I'm just going to try my
• 1:40:22
  best. Basically.
• 1:40:24
  Yeah, I agree with with that and particularly like, you know,
• 1:40:28
  what you were saying about like, keeping all the doors open and
• 1:40:31
  trying different things. Like I've done the same thing in
• 1:40:33
  this past year, particularly in lockdown, it's Kind of thought.
• 1:40:37
  Well I've got all this time to like try different things and
• 1:40:40
  I'm doing all these things that I never would have done before.
• 1:40:43
  And they're not all like not all of them are tied to YouTube.
• 1:40:46
  Some of them have nothing to do with YouTube, and I think it's
• 1:40:49
  important, you know, to always kind of a make yourself as
• 1:40:54
  employable as possible you know, in all different areas, you
• 1:40:57
  know, like what can I do as a human, you know, how can I be
• 1:41:00
  more valuable or whatever monetized, my interests or
• 1:41:04
  whatever, you know, that's one element of it.
• 1:41:06
  But The bigger more important thing is what you kind of said
• 1:41:10
  about pushing yourself, like what can I achieve?
• 1:41:12
  What's, you know, particularly with Fitness as well like
• 1:41:15
  recently, I've kind of let my fitness, go a little bit like
• 1:41:17
  I've been doing intensive but basketball training but it's
• 1:41:22
  that got to that point where it's like, okay, it's too cold
• 1:41:24
  to do basketball. Now it's time to hit it hard
• 1:41:28
  again and I know what's involved with that because I've done it
• 1:41:31
  before and it's both a mentor and a physical thing but one
• 1:41:36
  Thing II recognize straight away from what you said and I've
• 1:41:39
  definitely felt this before. Is that kind of always pushing
• 1:41:42
  yourself and wanting to go harder and harder and harder.
• 1:41:45
  And, you know, the difference between physical and mental is
• 1:41:51
  very interesting because sometimes it's like physically,
• 1:41:54
  you might feel like you can't keep going.
• 1:41:56
  But like mentally, sometimes you just kind of feel like, no, I
• 1:42:00
  got to keep going. I can keep going.
• 1:42:03
  I've got like a little bit more left in the tank and, you know,
• 1:42:06
  Obviously like it's all about consistency over time as well.
• 1:42:09
  Like, I don't know if you're doing say cardio and like,
• 1:42:13
  normally you do 20 minutes and you know, you want to push it to
• 1:42:16
  25 and you feel like if you go past 20, just your legs die.
• 1:42:21
  But it's like if I can just push it that little bit more get that
• 1:42:24
  little bit more out of myself and like who knows what I can
• 1:42:27
  achieve next kind of deal like it's a just a positive mindset
• 1:42:31
  over. What I think is really awesome
• 1:42:34
  that you have that and I totally I can relate to that as well as
• 1:42:39
  ready cliff in the. It's all about really pushing to
• 1:42:43
  see what you can do. I'll say.
• 1:42:45
  And it's it's interesting that we keep sort of going back to
• 1:42:49
  this, but in that, in the, in the post, you know, tcj sort of
• 1:42:54
  time in sort of, you know, time of the year and stuff this year.
• 1:43:00
  It's been a lot of things, a lot of different people, I guess.
• 1:43:03
  But no, in that time I sort of Adopted, the mindset of doing,
• 1:43:09
  what, exactly what you don't want to do in terms of, like
• 1:43:13
  Fitness and stuff. I went on my regular run And
• 1:43:18
  then I thought, you know what? I really couldn't do that again
• 1:43:24
  and I thought, well, I guess I'm going on my run again.
• 1:43:27
  So I did the whole thing again. Just, what I've been doing,
• 1:43:32
  would you mean like when you said that?
• 1:43:34
  Well, I feel like I'm like, at the start or, you know, I was
• 1:43:38
  on. I was on autopilot, like, my
• 1:43:40
  life. I'd just been doing my same run
• 1:43:43
  everyday or my same, you know, way routine and stuff.
• 1:43:46
  And then, When I got home from my run, I done my circuit.
• 1:43:50
  You know, I've been up the hill and back down again and then I
• 1:43:54
  stood there and I thought, well, you know, I've I've done exactly
• 1:44:00
  what I do every day. I don't think I could do that
• 1:44:03
  again. And then I went out straight
• 1:44:06
  away and I proved to myself that I could do it again, and that's
• 1:44:09
  what I've been doing. wow, that now that does take a lot of like
• 1:44:13
  strength of mind, like I've been there myself where I there were
• 1:44:18
  times when I was in the gym where I thought I was going to
• 1:44:20
  pass out like I just and there's no one there to protect you,
• 1:44:24
  you're responsible for yourself and it's like, But yeah I think
• 1:44:29
  it's is it is so much more isn't it than just the physical side
• 1:44:33
  of things or even trying to like set yourself goals.
• 1:44:36
  It's like, if you know, it within yourself that you can do
• 1:44:40
  it, you just want to kind of Just say like, what if and just
• 1:44:47
  push yourself past that bar, you know, do they do the impossible?
• 1:44:50
  It's much more mental thing than is a physical thing.
• 1:44:54
  Most of the time. Like the biggest fight is always
• 1:44:57
  to start the exercise or to carry on or what once you get
• 1:45:01
  that little, you know, voice in your head saying, you know,
• 1:45:05
  we've been, we've been around this field five times already
• 1:45:09
  The Gates, Right? Their homes literally right
• 1:45:11
  outside this this field. Let's go.
• 1:45:14
  I was this one time I did, I did 10 kilometers off, I ran around
• 1:45:19
  the same field for 10 km. I just, I just did it because I
• 1:45:23
  was like, I was I was just like, yeah, no.
• 1:45:26
  I was just thinking like my legs hurt like, yesterday, not listen
• 1:45:31
  to me. Like, I'm a I want, I want
• 1:45:33
  people to take something away from this, like it's that don't
• 1:45:36
  listen to it as if I'm talking about myself, just put yourself
• 1:45:40
  into this position and just try yourself.
• 1:45:44
  Like my legs hurt that from the day before?
• 1:45:47
  I did what? I promised myself.
• 1:45:50
  I'd do contain K. I run around the same field,
• 1:45:52
  like I got to the end. I finished my 10K, I stood at
• 1:45:57
  the gate and I thought like I could I could just walk through
• 1:46:00
  this gate right now and do exactly what I said I was going
• 1:46:03
  to do. and I actually went to the gate and then I just turn
• 1:46:07
  around and didn't and did another km around the field like
• 1:46:11
  just Like doing what exactly, what you don't want to do,
• 1:46:16
  learning to feel like pain learning to, you know, what?
• 1:46:22
  When you're at your tightest, that's when you realize who you
• 1:46:25
  really are. That's what I'm trying to say.
• 1:46:28
  Like you, then you understand like I'm you know, I'm Jeff go
• 1:46:34
  and I can run 11 km like before I made before I was at that gate
• 1:46:39
  and I made that decision to go again.
• 1:46:41
  I was only joking. So he could run 10 kilometers.
• 1:46:45
  That's all I was chance. And It's about making different
• 1:46:52
  habits, you know I'm saying. Like it's just in and it
• 1:46:56
  translates into your own life as well.
• 1:46:58
  Like, you could easily just got you could easily just get up and
• 1:47:01
  and play Xbox and do the same thing you do every day, or you
• 1:47:05
  could try and teach yourself something, you know.
• 1:47:08
  And that's one thing. I've seen, like, a lot of people
• 1:47:10
  my age, like, they always, you know, they think that it's
• 1:47:17
  enough to look like you're having Fun or like to look like
• 1:47:21
  your call. Look like you have some certain
• 1:47:24
  things and I know that's rich coming from a guy who talks
• 1:47:27
  about sneakers and stuff. Surely that's the most, you
• 1:47:30
  know, materialistic person, there is.
• 1:47:32
  But you know, there's been certain people that I've met
• 1:47:36
  recently who have shown me like you can push yourself to do a
• 1:47:42
  lot. You don't need to just, you
• 1:47:44
  don't need to just limit yourself to what people say that
• 1:47:48
  you can do. And stuff.
• 1:47:50
  Yeah, yeah. Some people said like, don't
• 1:47:54
  like, you can't do to martial arts at once.
• 1:47:55
  If I'm doing it by, look at me, I'm doing it.
• 1:47:58
  Like, I've taught myself how to trade stocks, like I'm doing it
• 1:48:02
  right now, I've got a full-time job like what?
• 1:48:05
  Like you telling me, I don't have enough time to do it.
• 1:48:07
  Like I'm doing it, that's it. Like I can't you can't survive
• 1:48:13
  standing still, you need to always be moving forward.
• 1:48:17
  That's it, you're touching on those so many.
• 1:48:19
  Home points here. Like I feel just as want to pick
• 1:48:22
  your brains about this because it's brilliant start and I agree
• 1:48:25
  with all of it. Like what you said about sort of
• 1:48:27
  disturbing your routine, I do the same thing.
• 1:48:30
  You know, I was one day that like I kind of woke up and I was
• 1:48:34
  like, I can't just every morning.
• 1:48:36
  Wake up, turn the computer on, have my coffee, like that, can't
• 1:48:39
  just be my morning every morning.
• 1:48:41
  So then I just stopped doing that sometimes.
• 1:48:43
  And sometimes I just wake up, have coffee, kind of sit and
• 1:48:47
  rest. You know, take it all in and
• 1:48:50
  then like, writing a diary, like I started a diary things like
• 1:48:54
  that or, you know, just trying other things like I signed up
• 1:48:57
  for volunteering, which I'm going to do tomorrow.
• 1:49:01
  Actually, I've just, I've never done volunteering before and I'm
• 1:49:05
  kind of excited about it because it's obviously it's like a feel
• 1:49:08
  good thing. It's like helping people and
• 1:49:10
  stuff, but, you know, I also kind of just want to learn and,
• 1:49:13
  you know, challenge myself and all the things that you touched
• 1:49:16
  on before, you know, and yeah, like again with what you were
• 1:49:22
  saying, you know, just about in general, just just challenging,
• 1:49:28
  what people's expectations of you aren't that?
• 1:49:31
  Like I don't know when I changed my mindset, but like I kind of
• 1:49:36
  just have this mindset now of like you just do what you want,
• 1:49:42
  you know what I mean? Like, you just if if you want to
• 1:49:43
  do something, just do it and like, 100% agree with you Ryan,
• 1:49:48
  but I like Pinnacle working size as well but like Christian died
• 1:49:52
  and you do this brilliantly but just keep trying like key.
• 1:49:57
  Trying new things. Keep like building on yourself,
• 1:50:00
  like you're doing a great job. You're one of the only people
• 1:50:02
  who like, I know, like you don't give a fuck like so.
• 1:50:08
  And it's not even about that. Like, you're actively, like,
• 1:50:13
  trying to do something that like, not a lot of people can do
• 1:50:16
  like, it's a difficult thing. And sometimes like, you say, oh,
• 1:50:21
  I'm I'm losing subscriber, or you know, what do you want?
• 1:50:27
  Nice work about on the podcast and stuff and I'm not saying
• 1:50:30
  like it can I just stop you don't let it get to you.
• 1:50:32
  No, no, listen, listen, listen, listen, I don't you don't let it
• 1:50:34
  get to you but your I just want to say like you're doing a great
• 1:50:37
  job with everything you're doing.
• 1:50:39
  I'm not sinking on you. I know you understood that is
• 1:50:41
  fucking a while but I'm just saying like you're doing a good
• 1:50:44
  job. No, I'm some reason, the reason
• 1:50:47
  I say that the reason I wanted to say something back to is that
• 1:50:50
  because I know in the past, you're 100%, right?
• 1:50:53
  Like I've complained, I've said this, I've said that You know,
• 1:50:57
  you put it out to me and it took me a long time to like actually
• 1:51:00
  take on board and like take it in.
• 1:51:02
  But recently with the things like, for instance, asking
• 1:51:05
  people, that would you want to hear about?
• 1:51:07
  That's genuinely me just saying like, hey what what do people
• 1:51:11
  want to hear? And I quickly learned after not
• 1:51:14
  getting some responses that it's just, we're not quite at that
• 1:51:17
  level yet and I didn't take it bad.
• 1:51:19
  Like, I would like if this was six months ago, I would have
• 1:51:22
  taken it badly. I would have been that harsh.
• 1:51:23
  But now I'm like, okay, you know, we Move.
• 1:51:27
  We keep trying, we keep doing things.
• 1:51:28
  Exactly. And you're and you know, you're
• 1:51:31
  a better person now because you made that mistake in the past,
• 1:51:34
  you know, I mean, you've been so you've improved on your, you've
• 1:51:37
  improved unlike your mindset towards that.
• 1:51:39
  Like the situation might not be any different, obviously,
• 1:51:43
  sometimes you don't get a suggestion or you don't
• 1:51:46
  something doesn't go as well. As you expected it to like,
• 1:51:48
  nothing has like we've both progress, but some things just
• 1:51:53
  haven't changed, but it's just the way you thought about it is
• 1:51:56
  turned almost Time. Yeah.
• 1:51:58
  Into a positive out of the negative, really?
• 1:52:00
  Absolutely. I couldn't agree more.
• 1:52:02
  Like I think your thing that you always try to bang into my head,
• 1:52:05
  and this is the last thing, I'll say about me, by the way,
• 1:52:07
  because we're bringing this back to you because it's about you,
• 1:52:11
  is that like you always said, like, don't focus on the
• 1:52:14
  numbers, you know, you focus on the comments that you've always
• 1:52:17
  said about your mentality with YouTube.
• 1:52:19
  Is I care about comments, I care about who's saying, what I like
• 1:52:24
  to reply to them and I have that same.
• 1:52:27
  Amount mindset. Now, I don't focus on the
• 1:52:28
  numbers anymore. I'm looking at what people
• 1:52:31
  saying who's returning who keeps replying you know, when those
• 1:52:36
  people are applying what are they saying?
• 1:52:38
  You know, trying to maintain relations with them trying to
• 1:52:41
  gauge what they think and stuff and ultimately just see if
• 1:52:44
  they're enjoying it. But like, I don't on the flip
• 1:52:49
  side of that, I don't worry either.
• 1:52:50
  Like I've had some like, some funny, like I just take it in my
• 1:52:54
  stride there. Like I've had some hate comments
• 1:52:56
  which had kind of I need to be honest and but I take them
• 1:52:59
  seriously, though. There's some people that have
• 1:53:00
  said, I think I had one podcast where they said, like, oh this
• 1:53:04
  guy shut the up, you know, like let the person speak and I sat
• 1:53:09
  down I was like, hard, was it like that, you know, I had to go
• 1:53:13
  back and like, listen to, but it was important.
• 1:53:15
  It was like a even though it wasn't, you know, in a
• 1:53:18
  constructive manner. There was still something in
• 1:53:20
  there that was useful and I think that that's the trouble, a
• 1:53:24
  lot of people don't focus on that.
• 1:53:26
  Well, what can I get? Gain from this at.
• 1:53:27
  What can I learn from this? What can I do differently?
• 1:53:30
  What what can, how can I better myself?
• 1:53:33
  And what I do that's where the mentality has to be.
• 1:53:37
  But as you said, you have to make mistakes to get there and
• 1:53:39
  you you've got to develop a positive attitude.
• 1:53:42
  I think and a lot of people are afraid to put the work in as
• 1:53:46
  well. Like like when I saw like how
• 1:53:48
  much work goes into for instance, doing the podcast.
• 1:53:51
  Yeah, I'm not going to lie in the beginning, I got a bit lazy
• 1:53:53
  that, you know, for instance, I knew that I would need to Clips
• 1:53:57
  and I should have done that from the beginning, but I was like
• 1:54:02
  kind of can't be bothered and then I realized that look for,
• 1:54:04
  don't do it. If I'm not prepared to put in
• 1:54:07
  the effort then why am I doing this?
• 1:54:10
  And then it changes. So it's yeah, I agree with what
• 1:54:14
  you said like completely. But anyway let's bring it back
• 1:54:18
  to you. What are your sources, main
• 1:54:21
  sources of inspiration or sorry, who were your main sources of
• 1:54:24
  inspiration? Like Eva in the Sneaker
• 1:54:27
  Community or just YouTubers in general.
• 1:54:30
  Like, who are you looking at and saying, okay, this guy that girl
• 1:54:34
  whoever is, you know, inspired me to do what I do.
• 1:54:39
  Okay, wow, that's a difficult question.
• 1:54:43
  First off, I think with anything, it's important to sort
• 1:54:47
  of take lots of different things from a lot of different people,
• 1:54:52
  rather than just imitate or even just The way you live your life,
• 1:54:57
  like don't listen to just one person, look at the wider
• 1:55:01
  picture and then make up your own mind for yourself.
• 1:55:04
  Put your positive spin on it, but your personal spin on it and
• 1:55:07
  then see where it goes from there.
• 1:55:09
  So, just from, like a sneaker point of view, I'd say my
• 1:55:13
  inspiration has probably changed a lot.
• 1:55:16
  Like first off, it was a lot of just like basic, you know,
• 1:55:19
  sneaker YouTubers and, and just some people that, you know, said
• 1:55:23
  this is what's coming out now and stuff.
• 1:55:25
  But now, I don't really watch that kind of stuff anymore.
• 1:55:31
  Like, I don't really, they're not there.
• 1:55:34
  It's not really what I look at. How and look.
• 1:55:37
  I've got, I've got you to buy from right now.
• 1:55:38
  Let me see what's on my YouTube. I was this.
• 1:55:40
  I'm struggling with this, man. I'm struggling with this sorry.
• 1:55:43
  No, it's fine. Take your time.
• 1:55:44
  It's cool. It's a lot of podcasts.
• 1:55:46
  Be honest. Like, I don't know.
• 1:55:50
  Yes, a lot of podcasts I don't. Yeah, I don't watch much YouTube
• 1:55:54
  to be honest, I would say like Joe Rogan obviously hmm.
• 1:56:00
  Yeah. And also this guy just just for
• 1:56:04
  like a basic sort of Lifestyle. Sort of inspiration, I would say
• 1:56:09
  this guy called David Goggins. Have you heard of David?
• 1:56:11
  Guardians have no write that down.
• 1:56:14
  David Gorgons David gogans. Look up.
• 1:56:17
  This guy. He is crazy.
• 1:56:19
  A he is crazy. If there's anyone that you want
• 1:56:22
  to sort of have, you know, a conversation with this this guy
• 1:56:26
  David Goggins. He, he's been on Joe Rogan, he's
• 1:56:29
  ready? He's written some books and
• 1:56:30
  stuff. He is, his story is that he
• 1:56:34
  started off, you know, really lazy really?
• 1:56:36
  He was very overweight and stuff and he ended up being in the
• 1:56:41
  Navy Seals I believe or some kind of position like that he
• 1:56:44
  was, you know, extreme training. He he's you know Not even a
• 1:56:49
  fitness freak but he's a lifestyle freak, like he's all
• 1:56:52
  about the mental, he's all about, you know, pushing
• 1:56:54
  yourself and stuff. And if you look at some of his
• 1:56:57
  stuff, you'll probably hear a lot of things.
• 1:57:01
  I've subconsciously just sort of, you know, picked up and said
• 1:57:05
  to you like is it? You know, it's contagious like
• 1:57:08
  this guy's energy and everything so definitely him, who else?
• 1:57:16
  I'll swab respects we talking about so yeah I don't think to
• 1:57:20
  be honest. There's no lit.
• 1:57:21
  I mean anything that just drives you as a person or any, sorry,
• 1:57:25
  anyone that drives you and what you do, you know?
• 1:57:29
  Mmm. Yeah.
• 1:57:32
  Well, I mean, just from sort of luck.
• 1:57:33
  A, come on, let's get this guy in.
• 1:57:36
  Like, see, it's a seeing you like, how much you do?
• 1:57:40
  I've, I'm obviously in your Discord and every like few hours
• 1:57:44
  I'm getting like an at everyone. He's, I'm Sky again, boys.
• 1:57:48
  He's done it. No, no, I'm done.
• 1:57:50
  I'm saying like that. That's like a, that's, that's
• 1:57:54
  inspiration. Like, okay, you know, if I'm
• 1:57:58
  just chilling there, I should be doing something and I see that
• 1:58:00
  pop up. I'm like, whoa.
• 1:58:02
  Competition. Right, the competition, he's
• 1:58:05
  moving. You know, you know I'm saying
• 1:58:07
  like So again just that like the you're worth it, work ethic,
• 1:58:13
  especially and like when I saw them drop in on some of the
• 1:58:18
  stuff that you do and everything.
• 1:58:19
  Like, you know, I really like the stuff that you've been doing
• 1:58:23
  with deals. I like I said to you as well,
• 1:58:25
  I'm I'm happy that he's got the young little kid shut up.
• 1:58:29
  You don't know anything treatment now, you know, I was
• 1:58:32
  joking, right? I've known of course.
• 1:58:35
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:58:38
  It's good. Yeah, that was the only reason I
• 1:58:42
  got away with that and tcj was because because Aaron was a lot
• 1:58:45
  older than me is where not a lot older, but he was I think he was
• 1:58:47
  like early 30s or something and I'm 27 or something.
• 1:58:51
  So it's like could get way of calling you the child even
• 1:58:55
  though technically. Yeah, you know, but whatever.
• 1:58:59
  Answer this question really badly, I feel like I've missed
• 1:59:02
  Miss some people, something I miss something really obvious.
• 1:59:05
  I mean the general gist of what I, what I'm gathering from what
• 1:59:08
  you Saying is that like you've kind of changed the type of
• 1:59:12
  content that you consume and that's obviously changed like,
• 1:59:18
  excuse me, like your influences and who you're inspired by.
• 1:59:21
  So it makes perfect sense of it. Like I've got plenty of stuff
• 1:59:25
  that I subscribe to as well. Like I did the same thing, I
• 1:59:29
  unsubscribe from a bunch of stuff.
• 1:59:31
  There are still things. I love to consume my own sidemen
• 1:59:35
  or something like that, you know?
• 1:59:36
  But I Could that is, like, just entertainment and light.
• 1:59:41
  It's not. It doesn't like.
• 1:59:42
  Give me anything like, maybe now.
• 1:59:44
  And again, they'll be something. They do that.
• 1:59:46
  My are cool. Like, when I saw them all
• 1:59:48
  playing like, Among Us for instance, I was like, I'll call
• 1:59:50
  I'll play that. Like, actually looks like fun,
• 1:59:53
  but other than that, it doesn't give you anything necessarily.
• 1:59:58
  That's like you can use and be like, to better yourself.
• 2:00:02
  Whereas the people you're talking about like, this, David
• 2:00:05
  Goggins guy, like they're inspiring people who've.
• 2:00:08
  Sort of taken their life from from one situation and kind of
• 2:00:12
  pushed themselves to a to a more positive position.
• 2:00:15
  And a lot of I've been looking at the similar people as well
• 2:00:18
  and it's fine if you don't have like have names like it for me.
• 2:00:22
  It's when I ask questions like that it's more to just gauge the
• 2:00:26
  person's mind, set of like what inspires them, you know.
• 2:00:30
  Because a lot of the time when you ask someone like who their
• 2:00:32
  Inspirations are, you know, it's like you said you never basing
• 2:00:37
  everything you do. Like you don't want to just copy
• 2:00:40
  with someone else. The ultimately you want to like
• 2:00:43
  yeah get some stuff that inspires you and then you find
• 2:00:47
  your own, you know, things like for instance, me obviously, when
• 2:00:52
  I started this, you know, I thought of Joe Rogan, I like his
• 2:00:55
  format. I also thought of this guy, you
• 2:00:58
  know, SOB Powers. Remember that guy?
• 2:01:01
  The comedian guy? Yeah.
• 2:01:03
  Yeah. So he started doing a comedy or
• 2:01:06
  he's comedian. Sorry.
• 2:01:08
  And here, The me start decided to just do a podcast on his
• 2:01:12
  YouTube and he invited me one time, but then he continued it
• 2:01:15
  and he's still going with it and I just really liked the format
• 2:01:19
  of what he was doing. And I thought I maybe I can do
• 2:01:22
  this. Obviously, I'll do my own spin
• 2:01:25
  on it, I'll do it my way. And then I realized like,
• 2:01:27
  actually what I do is very different from what he does, but
• 2:01:31
  like it the point is it was like a starting point.
• 2:01:34
  It was like, okay, I want to be like these guys, but I want to
• 2:01:37
  do it like my way. Way, and it sounds like that's
• 2:01:40
  kind of what you're doing as well.
• 2:01:42
  It's like, you're saying, okay inspired by this, but then I'm
• 2:01:46
  doing it. The child is Jaco way kind of
• 2:01:48
  thing. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
• 2:01:51
  You definitely summed up. Great by saying, sort of like
• 2:01:54
  the, some things are just for entertainment and then some sort
• 2:01:58
  of genuine Inspirations to you. Yeah.
• 2:02:01
  With the David Goggins guard say more like is not so much a
• 2:02:04
  content creator, but just his story sort of Pearl all things
• 2:02:09
  into perspective for me and stuff and probably push me to
• 2:02:12
  try a little bit more on the Taekwondo and everything and
• 2:02:15
  opened up a few more doors for me.
• 2:02:17
  But for me there, but yeah, in terms of content, just just
• 2:02:21
  watch a bunch of people. Basically.
• 2:02:22
  And then sort of, I wouldn't say there's one that really
• 2:02:27
  influences exactly what, you know, I didn't look at someone
• 2:02:30
  and say I'm going to do my version of that.
• 2:02:32
  It was more of just a, I've started it, you know what, a
• 2:02:36
  year and a half ago now, And it's sort of just developed from
• 2:02:40
  there. And I think, from what I can
• 2:02:42
  see, I think most of stuff I do is quite unique.
• 2:02:47
  I can't really think of many people are like doing stuff like
• 2:02:52
  me. I'd say.
• 2:02:52
  So I've never seen anyone do the stuff that you do and I'm not
• 2:02:55
  trying to kiss your ass. That like genuinely, I think
• 2:02:58
  it's very unique when I think of like originally when I first
• 2:03:02
  heard of like sneakerheads to me it was just like a flex thing.
• 2:03:06
  Like if I'm being honest Thus. Yeah.
• 2:03:09
  And I honestly, never had any interest in doing right.
• 2:03:12
  Right. Right.
• 2:03:12
  But that's the thing. When I came across your channel.
• 2:03:15
  Like when we first met and you sent me your channel on my
• 2:03:18
  always, you going to be like one of those guys, right?
• 2:03:20
  But then I start watching the videos and I realized that you
• 2:03:23
  weren't like that at all. And it was interesting and I
• 2:03:26
  learned a lot from the way that you do your videos, I couldn't a
• 2:03:30
  very informative and they kind of give you a good understanding
• 2:03:35
  that even if you know next to nothing about trainers.
• 2:03:38
  Which is where I was. When I started watching your
• 2:03:41
  videos, I learnt through you. And you know, I think that's
• 2:03:44
  really good thing about your videos is they like educational,
• 2:03:48
  but they're, you know, you never liked, you give your opinion you
• 2:03:53
  don't like. And but you you're not afraid to
• 2:03:55
  like it's cool something trash or something and then like, you
• 2:03:59
  know, kind of you just, I don't know.
• 2:04:02
  I think it's fun. I think it's interesting and
• 2:04:05
  this kind of leads me. It was gone.
• 2:04:07
  Sorry. I was just going to say, I
• 2:04:09
  always make sure of alienate anyone.
• 2:04:12
  So yeah, if I am sort of like going in on something, I don't
• 2:04:16
  like I always even if it's in a joking way.
• 2:04:18
  I say, you know, all the power to you, if you like this, you
• 2:04:22
  know, that's great. You go over there in the corner
• 2:04:25
  and have fun, but I'm going to say, well, I don't like this.
• 2:04:27
  So I never say like, I never personally attack, anyone say
• 2:04:31
  You are stupid if you don't if you like this product or
• 2:04:34
  whatever but also another few things I just thought of just
• 2:04:36
  there. Said about how you sort of Saw
• 2:04:41
  and you thought I was this guy just going to flex or is he like
• 2:04:43
  what sort of guys this guy? And obviously, that's that's
• 2:04:46
  great. That you sort of had that
• 2:04:49
  thought process and we're assessing whether I was someone
• 2:04:52
  to sort of contact or whatever but I'd say in terms of like
• 2:04:59
  branding and standing out I'll say one thing that's helped me
• 2:05:02
  is obviously being from the UK. It's Unique to do that sort of
• 2:05:08
  do this and be in the UK. And another thing is one bit
• 2:05:11
  feedback, positive feedback. I would say I've got from a lot
• 2:05:16
  of P people of different people is just having an actual like
• 2:05:22
  they can tell that there's an actual passion for what I'm
• 2:05:24
  talking about rather than just doing it because I want to look
• 2:05:27
  cool because I'm making money off it or something.
• 2:05:30
  So, I would definitely just not not, not making it about me, but
• 2:05:35
  just saying to anyone that's listening like to learn from
• 2:05:38
  that find something that makes you unique, whether it's, you
• 2:05:42
  know, your location, your certain point of view and stuff.
• 2:05:45
  And then, also, make sure that what you are talking about is
• 2:05:48
  something that you really love because people can tell and that
• 2:05:51
  wasn't even an intention of mine to make it seem that way.
• 2:05:54
  I wasn't like, actively saying I love this.
• 2:05:57
  I love this. Like the guys just knew that,
• 2:06:00
  that was what was up. So, So, definitely a couple of
• 2:06:03
  things to keep in mind, like, when you're sort of starting
• 2:06:07
  stuff like this, I'd say just to left field question here because
• 2:06:12
  we were talking about podcasting earlier.
• 2:06:15
  Do you think you would ever get back into podcasting?
• 2:06:17
  And like, if so, would you consider doing, you know, like a
• 2:06:21
  sneaker podcast or something like that?
• 2:06:23
  Where you, where you talk? Because I remember one of the
• 2:06:26
  things that you said, obviously I'm reiterating whoop said
• 2:06:30
  before, Was that you wanted to focus on, you know, your staff,
• 2:06:34
  your Niche. That's where your mind is always
• 2:06:36
  at is doing this but you're not afraid to try different things
• 2:06:40
  and you are and we'll get into some of the newer things you've
• 2:06:42
  been doing recently, but I just, I was just curious about this
• 2:06:46
  podcast and thing because I think that you definitely have a
• 2:06:48
  talent for that, you know, even before we were doing podcast
• 2:06:51
  together, you reached out to me one time and we did like a
• 2:06:54
  little mini podcast style thing if you remember.
• 2:06:57
  Yeah, you know, so it's there, it's like something.
• 2:07:01
  In your mind and I'm just wondering, like, have you never
• 2:07:03
  considered that for sneakers? Or is that something you would
• 2:07:06
  do? Or is that even in on your list
• 2:07:10
  of like maybe he's or what's the Builder?
• 2:07:15
  I in terms of what I actually consume like the content I can
• 2:07:19
  assume I'd say it is mostly a mostly made up of podcasts so
• 2:07:25
  it's definitely something that I'd always be open to sort of
• 2:07:28
  getting back into bar. I just feel like, I don't know
• 2:07:33
  if this translates like Christian, like man-to-man right
• 2:07:36
  now. Like a is, am I doing a good
• 2:07:38
  job? Because of course, when I don't
• 2:07:41
  remember anything, I've said today, like it's obviously all
• 2:07:44
  been, but it's been fully truthful, truthful and stuff.
• 2:07:48
  And you know, I've tried my best to stay on track but I feel like
• 2:07:51
  I'm all over the place. I don't think that like this is
• 2:07:54
  something I can do. Sure you can do, I mean, you
• 2:07:58
  said it best earlier. When you Saying like, you know,
• 2:08:02
  like just going for things, just challenging yourself and stuff
• 2:08:05
  like that. You can do anything.
• 2:08:07
  Like, I know it's a cliche to say as much but it is the
• 2:08:11
  reality. If you want to do something,
• 2:08:13
  you'll do it and you'll find a way to do it and you'll do it
• 2:08:15
  your way. So it's time, I did a good job,
• 2:08:18
  am I doing a good job? Absolutely.
• 2:08:19
  Yes, I just have been faster. I'll consider them now.
• 2:08:24
  Yeah, so yeah, the answer to your question is yes.
• 2:08:27
  Obviously I would. Yeah, that's obviously something
• 2:08:30
  that I'm I'd be open to whether it was be about sneakers or not.
• 2:08:34
  I'm not too sure. Like, okay, obviously, with the
• 2:08:40
  Jiu-Jitsu sort of, you know, discussion I had the 20 Minute
• 2:08:47
  Podcast kind of thing. Yeah.
• 2:08:49
  Would that be something that I'd be more interested in doing may
• 2:08:52
  be okay? It just depends where it just
• 2:08:55
  depends sort of where, you know, my life takes me and stuff.
• 2:08:58
  I'm going what my interests are cut.
• 2:09:00
  I don't While I do like sneakers, like I don't think I
• 2:09:05
  could talk like on a regular basis for hours about like the
• 2:09:10
  sneakers that are upcoming because then I feel like I'd
• 2:09:12
  fall into the Trap of what I said.
• 2:09:15
  Obviously, I didn't want to do which is like just being a robot
• 2:09:18
  and you know, saying this Jordan is coming out there here and
• 2:09:21
  stuff like this. Like I'd feel like I would fall
• 2:09:24
  into that trap, where it's like, if I keep that kind of stuff
• 2:09:28
  too, like a shorter sort of format with With why I normally
• 2:09:32
  do, I feel like within that, I can be more creative with, like,
• 2:09:36
  how I say it, like, always. I'm done.
• 2:09:40
  Sometimes, I'm standing up on this chair.
• 2:09:41
  Sometimes. I'm, you know, running around
• 2:09:43
  and playing a little character, or do you know?
• 2:09:45
  Like, I want to make that sort of aspect is fine as possible,
• 2:09:49
  but yeah, when it comes like a sort of longer stuff, probably
• 2:09:56
  more to do with like yeah maybe martial arts or something or
• 2:10:00
  Fitness like five. I'm planning on having a
• 2:10:04
  conversation. Like we are right now because my
• 2:10:08
  one of my friends I have a friend that's currently doing
• 2:10:11
  MMA but he's currently, he's got any charity charity match coming
• 2:10:16
  up or something next year. So I'm thinking of having sort
• 2:10:20
  of like a conversation with him that will obviously be like a
• 2:10:23
  longer sort of format so that that will maybe open up a door.
• 2:10:29
  Also another friend, that's starting MMA, which I want to
• 2:10:33
  talk to you about that as well. So I know that the door's always
• 2:10:37
  open I've thought Many times about asking, like, do you and
• 2:10:42
  Aaron want to do like a little reunions or something?
• 2:10:45
  One day. I think that would be quite
• 2:10:46
  cool. I would always be open to that,
• 2:10:49
  by the way. I think.
• 2:10:50
  Because the one that calls are just on a side note about that.
• 2:10:53
  I loved about tcj was that it was all real, just genuine
• 2:10:58
  chemistry and that's why I love doing it and why I was so bummed
• 2:11:02
  when it ended because it's so hard to find that kind of
• 2:11:05
  chemistry with people. I find because you can't force
• 2:11:09
  Like even you just have chemistry with someone or group
• 2:11:12
  of people or you don't. And if you own yeah socks.
• 2:11:16
  You can't make it good. It just sucks.
• 2:11:19
  So yeah. I definitely have.
• 2:11:20
  Yeah, yeah. Anyway, in terms of like,
• 2:11:23
  starting something on a weekly basis, I would probably say no
• 2:11:26
  at the moment but I'm definitely going to like look into sort of
• 2:11:31
  doing longer form. Sort of, you know like you saw
• 2:11:35
  today obviously with with those other people that That I sort of
• 2:11:40
  I'm in contact with as well. I feel like I could have some,
• 2:11:43
  you know, useful conversations with myself and with other
• 2:11:47
  people. So when I feel like that is
• 2:11:49
  necessary, I will do it, but it's definitely not something
• 2:11:52
  that I'm gonna like do on a very regular basis, regular very
• 2:11:57
  regular basis. So yeah, with the reason I had
• 2:12:00
  this question initially was because you very recently within
• 2:12:04
  the last week or so released this video of sneaker cooking
• 2:12:08
  show. You totally like first-ever
• 2:12:11
  sneaker cooking show and I was like, okay, I'm interested in
• 2:12:15
  this, what's he done here and it was really cool.
• 2:12:17
  I loved it because there were so many things like one.
• 2:12:19
  I mean, one thing we haven't talked about Ashley is the fact
• 2:12:22
  that you're excellent at editing, which was one of the
• 2:12:24
  reasons why you were like the Invincible editor for our
• 2:12:27
  podcast, which because you're just so sick at that.
• 2:12:29
  And like many of you earlier videos, like had a lot of that,
• 2:12:32
  like, Opie kind of editing stuff.
• 2:12:35
  And I always just that that to me was such a big Positive about
• 2:12:41
  your videos, right? And Les makes sense.
• 2:12:43
  Now, because you said that, you know, obviously you have this
• 2:12:46
  interest in it and it stems from like many years ago is that so
• 2:12:49
  that kind of will make sense to me now.
• 2:12:51
  But when you did this show, it had like different camera angles
• 2:12:55
  and stuff that you used. Obviously, you've got a new
• 2:12:57
  camera and stuff to experimenting with that and also
• 2:13:00
  just the vibe of like, you know, you you're cooking and stuff and
• 2:13:03
  it's like a genuine cooking show.
• 2:13:05
  Like, you're talking about sneakers and stuff and you're
• 2:13:06
  making all this stuff and you're talking about Fitness and stuff.
• 2:13:09
  And it's only like these elements that work and you can
• 2:13:12
  tell that you're very comfortable while you're doing
• 2:13:14
  it. And I'm like, what are the plans
• 2:13:17
  with this? Is this gonna be a regular
• 2:13:18
  thing? Because I can see like guests on
• 2:13:20
  this. I could see so many
• 2:13:22
  possibilities with this. Like I'm I always just sitting
• 2:13:24
  there like excited. I was like, oh my God like
• 2:13:26
  what's he going to do it? Do to survive this?
• 2:13:29
  Wow. Wow.
• 2:13:30
  Okay, yeah you pretty much took the words out of my mouth.
• 2:13:33
  Like obviously it was just a little idea that I just thought
• 2:13:38
  of like there was Few things I wanted to talk about.
• 2:13:40
  I wanted to sort of transition the conversation from, you know,
• 2:13:45
  only sneakers to maybe a little bit of health and fitness a
• 2:13:49
  little bit of, you know, martial arts training and stuff, which
• 2:13:52
  obviously you've seen in follow-ups that that has that
• 2:13:55
  has happened. So that that was sort of the
• 2:13:58
  main function of that. It's just that I wanted to sort
• 2:14:00
  of have a thing where I could Branch everything together, but
• 2:14:03
  with the, with the format, I, you know, that that is something
• 2:14:08
  that I want to carry on doing. Ooh, and you pretty much took
• 2:14:10
  the words right out of my mouth? I know it was quite a basic sort
• 2:14:14
  of, I don't know like it. Obviously, the cooking aspect to
• 2:14:20
  it was sort of like a background element to start off with but I
• 2:14:23
  can definitely see like in the future.
• 2:14:26
  Maybe trying something a bit more experimental maybe more of
• 2:14:30
  like a focus on that aspect as well as talking.
• 2:14:34
  And yeah I've even thought about like I've got I've got some
• 2:14:37
  friends that all Living like a house together of I've thought
• 2:14:42
  about like, you know, doing it with lack of group of people
• 2:14:45
  and, you know, setting up like a good like three or four camera
• 2:14:49
  angles and stuff and see him like if anything happens there.
• 2:14:52
  But that's why I mean is that like as much as I enjoy like
• 2:14:58
  sitting and just having a chat and stuff, I want to be creative
• 2:15:01
  and everything. So I know I can do both things
• 2:15:04
  at once so I just want to make sure I get the right balance,
• 2:15:07
  but that's true. We're like, that's really good
• 2:15:10
  that you, you know, you enjoyed that is good to hear enough.
• 2:15:14
  Had some good feedback about that.
• 2:15:16
  So yeah. No, it is something that I'm
• 2:15:18
  looking to continue but yeah. Hopefully sort of developing it
• 2:15:24
  over time as well. Get a little theme tune.
• 2:15:26
  Maybe absolutely. Yeah.
• 2:15:28
  Like a little show and also I really wanted to even though the
• 2:15:32
  sort of cooking aspect wasn't like at the Forefront.
• 2:15:35
  I really wanted to sort of bring that vibe I hate using the word
• 2:15:40
  by using now. It's also cooking show.
• 2:15:43
  I wanted to make sure that like it had the cooking show Vibe.
• 2:15:45
  I wanted it to be like familiar, as well as like, really, like,
• 2:15:50
  what is going on. But I really wanted it to be
• 2:15:52
  like, you know, like how you see on daytime TV and stuff.
• 2:15:55
  They are like the, oh, I'm Chef Anne up this and everything and
• 2:15:59
  look, you want your lettuce and cut it?
• 2:16:01
  Like this. I really wanted it to feel like
• 2:16:02
  that but it is. I've been that's great like
• 2:16:05
  foreigners. Well yeah, it felt like that but
• 2:16:07
  it was cool. Yeah, because it from with those
• 2:16:10
  daytime shows is like, you know, it's like a man going nuts over
• 2:16:14
  lettuce and it's like, make much less.
• 2:16:17
  Yeah. Well, what is it?
• 2:16:18
  I wanted to sort of play into that but also make fun of it at
• 2:16:22
  the same time. So it was either that translated
• 2:16:25
  and it. I did put a lot of thought into
• 2:16:27
  like sort of not what I was going to say but sort of like
• 2:16:32
  the vibe and the Angles and stuff, I wanted to make sure I
• 2:16:35
  got those right? So it's good news to hear, they
• 2:16:37
  paid off. Can't wait to see more.
• 2:16:41
  Speaking of which do you have plans to create content that
• 2:16:45
  differs from your sneaker content?
• 2:16:47
  Obviously you mentioned the stuff about the martial arts and
• 2:16:49
  stuff like that, so we know that there's going to be some other
• 2:16:51
  stuff, but outside of that, you know, you've always been a very
• 2:16:54
  creative person. You're always kind of up for
• 2:16:56
  trying new things. It is that like a we beginning
• 2:17:00
  to see is your channel, go to open up now, or are we always
• 2:17:04
  going to stick to that? You know, sneakers Focus thing?
• 2:17:07
  I'm just curious. Uncle.
• 2:17:12
  Yeah, like I said, the outside that even though it was the
• 2:17:16
  sneaker cooking show, I think from that point, I'd say
• 2:17:21
  probably marks, sort of luck, a different new phase, let's call
• 2:17:25
  it, you know, the new phase term Phase 2.
• 2:17:29
  Like we're going to be trying a lot of new things hopefully and
• 2:17:34
  you know, things following that are going to give you good
• 2:17:36
  examples of what's what? Has to come.
• 2:17:39
  Am I moving away from sneakers? No, not at all.
• 2:17:42
  But of course not. No, we're going to be taught.
• 2:17:45
  We're going to be tucked. We're going to be taken up a
• 2:17:46
  notch. Let's just say that and just
• 2:17:48
  trying a lot of different things which I'm hoping.
• 2:17:51
  Hopefully I'll be able to work with you at some point again and
• 2:17:56
  some other people, obviously, I mentioned that before, but we're
• 2:17:59
  moving into, like yeah, we're moving into an interesting time.
• 2:18:03
  I'd say in exciting and interesting exciting, good
• 2:18:08
  stuff. Good stuff.
• 2:18:10
  Okay, and outside of YouTube is there anything you sort of want
• 2:18:15
  to get into in terms of the sneaker scene or maybe just
• 2:18:18
  other areas of life? So forgetting everything, you've
• 2:18:20
  we've covered today. Like, is there just anything
• 2:18:22
  else? Maybe or, I don't know anything
• 2:18:25
  else you'd like to try. I not at the moment, obviously
• 2:18:35
  leading up to my the you know, the time when I'm doing my
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  Taekwondo sort of trial and being pretty much all my spare
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  time is going to be working towards that.
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  So and that obviously, I've obviously got some other light
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  academic stuff to do towards my coursework and sort of
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  apprenticeship and stuff. So at the moment, I think my
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  plates full enough. And then I'm going to look at
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  Pretty much reassess next year, probably.
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  But, at the moment, pretty much what I've mentioned today is
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  what I'm working on. Yeah, too.
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  Busy, man, busy man. Yeah, it's good.
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  It's good to be busy. I love being busy.
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  I think it's good. It's good for the soul for your
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  work in, you got a purpose, it's good.
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  Yeah. Bringing everything to a close
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  today. Do you have any?
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  I think your sense where you going to but do you have any
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  upcoming projects? Videos or any final thoughts
• 2:19:34
  that you'd like to share with us.
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  Any upcoming things now I think I've I think I've given you
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  know, some good hints. I'd say just look out for any.
• 2:19:48
  You'll definitely see some light longer sort of style things
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  coming soon, but I'm obviously not going to be moving that far
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  away from also doing like you know the three or four-minute
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  crazy sneaker shouting about. I hate this and stuff.
• 2:20:06
  You know, you're still To see that, but there's going to be,
• 2:20:09
  you know, developments in different into different areas
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  and with the with the cooking and the sort of podcast style
• 2:20:17
  stuff as well. But other than that, not really
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  anything else to be sort of a sort of looking out for just
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  obviously support my man. Christian, hopefully getting
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  that Discord, it helps everyone. If everyone's in there, what
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  else? Just, I hope that At like, I
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  don't know. I'm a bit weird.
• 2:20:39
  I don't like talking about myself too much, so I just want
• 2:20:43
  everyone who's watched this just to understand that don't look at
• 2:20:47
  this as me talk about myself. Please learn something.
• 2:20:52
  Learn from our mistakes. Learn from am a Christian and I
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  hope this helped someone, even if it's one person to, you know,
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  better themselves or got out and do something, you know, because
• 2:21:05
  Life's Too Short like What with while I was dating with, like
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  this year, I've dealt with, you know, I've dealt with some
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  losses. Some people, you know, I've had
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  family in hospital, I've dealt with, you know, losses in every
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  sense of the word and it sort of broke me down and made me, you
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  know, assess my purpose. What what I want to do and
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  stuff? And it really showed me if
• 2:21:30
  anything. And even if like skip to this
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  point, if you don't watch any of this, get to this point like
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  just Is to everything's is too short, Life's Too Short.
• 2:21:39
  Like, you just got to give everything a hundred percent.
• 2:21:42
  So, hopefully, even if I blabbed on a bit about Jiu-Jitsu that
• 2:21:46
  you might not care about or Taekwondo sneakers or something,
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  just know that, like, I'm out here.
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  I'm working work harder than me. Do more than me, please.
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  Like, I'll push all of you just to try your best.
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  Thank you for listening. And yeah, thanks for having me
• 2:22:01
  Christian. Hey listen, it's been an
• 2:22:03
  absolute pleasure. I thank you so much for agreeing
• 2:22:05
  to be on the podcast. Just you know as I said I've
• 2:22:08
  been trying to get you on here for ages so I'm happy that he
• 2:22:10
  has finally happened along. It's been a pleasure and I
• 2:22:14
  couldn't recommend everyone listening to this whether it's
• 2:22:18
  YouTube Spotify Apple podcast wherever please go and subscribe
• 2:22:22
  to child is Jack. Oh, he's a fantastic content
• 2:22:25
  creator. Really, really makes it
• 2:22:29
  impressive stuff. And I think the biggest thing
• 2:22:32
  about you is that you're really passionate with everything that
• 2:22:35
  you do and that's always been The thing that I've always
• 2:22:38
  really kind of admired about you, and I think that anyone
• 2:22:42
  that's not familiar with you should definitely check you out
• 2:22:44
  because like I said, you know, I didn't have an invested in
• 2:22:47
  vested interest in you when I first met you because I sort of
• 2:22:51
  thought you would do in the same way that if I see like a gamer
• 2:22:54
  YouTuber, I'm not it generally mean, if I see like they have
• 2:22:57
  Fortnight stuff, it's like, it's not for me, but sometimes if you
• 2:23:01
  just take a risk on someone, you'd be very surprised and that
• 2:23:06
  was the case. Case, when I first saw your
• 2:23:08
  content and I think that everyone should be going out
• 2:23:11
  there and giving you a shot and checking your stuff out because
• 2:23:13
  it's excellent. So, yeah.
• 2:23:15
  And yeah. So thank you very much for
• 2:23:18
  appearing on the show. And as I always say, if you'd
• 2:23:20
  like to appear on the Christian, we've podcast, please get in
• 2:23:23
  touch. I now have the see a Reddit for
• 2:23:27
  the podcast. We've got an Instagram and
• 2:23:29
  Twitter for the podcast, a Discord server for the podcast.
• 2:23:33
  There's no excuses. Now, if you want to be on the
• 2:23:35
  show, In touch with me, either on those platforms.
• 2:23:40
  Or with me personally, I would love to have you on their, we're
• 2:23:43
  starting to feature businesses and stuff on the podcast now.
• 2:23:47
  So then if you have a star, but you're starting your own project
• 2:23:50
  get in touch with me, I would love to hear from, you would
• 2:23:52
  love to Showcase your work, whoever you are whatever you do,
• 2:23:56
  or even if it's just, you know, that you would like something in
• 2:23:59
  particular that you'd like to hear us discuss in the podcast.
• 2:24:02
  Let me know. And yeah, thank you as always.
• 2:24:06
  Ways for listening. And until next time.
• 2:24:09
  Peace out. One loves you in the next one.