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- 0:00Is going on beautiful folks? Do narcissists know that they
- 0:04hurt you? Do they know the pain that they
- 0:08put you through? Do they know the things that
- 0:11they are doing to you are bad and will be frowned upon and
- 0:14people will just turn their backs on them?
- 0:17If they knew the absolute truth? Do they know that's what we're
- 0:20talking about today? Y'all?
- 0:22If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:23I'm a diagnosed narcissist and welcome to another episode of
- 0:26the Narcissist Code. Bing, welcome back, folks,
- 0:46welcome back, welcome back. Yes, yes, yes.
- 0:49Do narcissistic people know that they are, that they are hurting
- 0:52you? Do they know?
- 0:54What do you think? Drop it in the comment section
- 0:55before you go any further. And also, if you're in the Saint
- 0:58Louis area, we'll be in St. Louis, MO, April 5th, 2025 for
- 1:02our next in person workshop. You can find more information at
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- 1:09weekend, April 5th for our workshop.
- 1:11In person workshop. But yeah, yeah.
- 1:14So Simply put, the simplest way I could put it, most
- 1:18narcissistic people absolutely do know that they are hurting
- 1:23you. They absolutely know it.
- 1:26They absolutely understand that what they are doing is bad
- 1:30believe they said they don't remember.
- 1:32They say they don't, they don't realize that they what they're
- 1:35doing is wrong. They say they don't know that
- 1:37it's wrong. They say they forget and they
- 1:39black out. And this is that I'm going to
- 1:41cover the blackout stuff like no, no, no, no, I'm going to
- 1:44cover that right now because that gets to my damn nerves
- 1:47right there. The I forgot.
- 1:49I don't remember doing that to you.
- 1:50Especially if they do some violence to you, especially if
- 1:52they put their hands on you and trying to hurt you or physically
- 1:56hurt you or whatever. Yeah, think about this right
- 1:58here. I know when I know narcissistic
- 2:01people think that that's a way out of whatever they're doing,
- 2:04right? I know they think that if they
- 2:06say this to you, it's their get out of jail free card, right?
- 2:10This is the mindset of a lot of narcissistic people.
- 2:12They actually believe that if they say this to you, I forgot
- 2:16that things will that that you'll forget and you'll move
- 2:19on. But think about it from this
- 2:21perspective right here. Y'all, let me offer you this
- 2:22perspective. Even if they did forget, let's
- 2:26say they did forget, let's just say it's true that they forgot
- 2:28or they don't remember this. They don't remember hurting you
- 2:30or smacking you or choking you, whatever, right?
- 2:33They don't remember any of that. Let's say that's true.
- 2:36That doesn't make it better. That means that they are
- 2:39absolutely out of control. And if they don't remember
- 2:43hurting you and they can't control themselves or they black
- 2:46out, that means they're out of control and they don't, they
- 2:49won't remember taking your life either, will they?
- 2:51It's not my fault I'm blacked out.
- 2:53Think about it from that perspective right there, because
- 2:55so many people use that excuse. I don't remember that I don't
- 2:58remember it happening in that way.
- 3:00I forgot I I just I don't think that I don't think it happened
- 3:03that way. I just black out.
- 3:06That doesn't make it better. That actually makes it worse.
- 3:10But this is how pea brained some narcissistic people are or they
- 3:14think you are right. They might thank you pea brained
- 3:16enough to to think that them forgetting or them not
- 3:19remembering how it had happened or them blacking out that that
- 3:21makes it better when it absolutely makes it worse,
- 3:26because that's if you don't remember it, that absolutely
- 3:29means that you are out of control, right?
- 3:35It means that they're out of control.
- 3:37It does it really absolutely means and that's that's
- 3:40dangerous. That's absolutely dangerous as
- 3:43hell because they're out of control.
- 3:45I don't remember that. OK, cool to get the hell out of
- 3:48here because you're dangerous. You're a bigger danger to me
- 3:51because you don't remember it. They don't make it better.
- 3:54You don't remember it? No.
- 3:55Oh, get the hell out of here. You see how that goes right
- 3:58there, right? You see, that's the mentality of
- 4:00narcissistic people of how they feel that way and how they try
- 4:03to activate, how they try to operate on you.
- 4:04Do you see? Do you see?
- 4:07But that's that meant. That's that mindset right there.
- 4:09They think I don't remember it, but it didn't happen that way.
- 4:12Like that makes it better. It doesn't.
- 4:17OK, but I had to go. Sorry about that early rant
- 4:21bubble, yo. I just had to get that out of my
- 4:23system because it bothers me so much when I'm doing my one on
- 4:26ones over Zoom or my group coaching and whatnot.
- 4:29My my support group. That's what people say.
- 4:31They just like, well, they say they don't, they don't remember
- 4:33or they blacked out. I like that's scarier.
- 4:36How's that scarier, lady? Because they're out of control.
- 4:38If they don't remember it, what's stopping them from doing
- 4:40it again? If they don't remember it,
- 4:42what's stopping them from doing it again?
- 4:45They bought it like that. If they do not remember it,
- 4:48what's stopping them from doing it again?
- 4:51All right, OK, Back to the top of your hand.
- 4:55Narcissistic people, y'all? Or scary people.
- 4:57They can be very scary. And do they know what they're
- 5:00doing is wrong? Yes.
- 5:01That's why they absolutely do remember it.
- 5:04And they're just trying to obfuscate and make it seem like
- 5:06I don't know what's good. What happened?
- 5:08They know it. They know it's bad.
- 5:11Well, Lee, how do they know it's bad?
- 5:12Because they try to hide it. Because they try to hide it.
- 5:17They do. Yeah.
- 5:19It's it, it, it They do. They try to hide it.
- 5:22They try to keep it private. They try to forget it.
- 5:25They know what they are doing is hurting you.
- 5:29Now are all of them in control? I will say that not every single
- 5:33narcissist is in control of their minds.
- 5:35I just feel like there's a certain operating system like
- 5:39you might be running on the newest updated Windows or Mac
- 5:42iOS, right? You're, you're, you're running
- 5:44on a updated Mac iOS system. Your narcissistic partner is not
- 5:49running on the same system there we we are running, we are
- 5:52running on outdated software with a virus where we had the
- 5:57narcissistic virus. The you know how to computers
- 6:00use the viruses back in the day. We have a narcissistic virus in
- 6:03our head that is making us think different and behave
- 6:05differently. So sometimes we are absolutely
- 6:08not in control of our actions sometimes.
- 6:11But again, y'all, that doesn't excuse it.
- 6:14That doesn't excuse it. What are they trying to do to
- 6:17get their behaviors under control?
- 6:19Nothing. I'm going to go pray about it.
- 6:24I've been trying not to make these religious friends but I
- 6:25have to. Y'all prayer is not enough.
- 6:29Now I'm a God fearing God believing man.
- 6:33I just am. I read the entire Bible.
- 6:35The Bible changed my life. God has changed my life.
- 6:37But y'all have got to stop letting religious manipulative
- 6:40people just get away with it because they use they bring up
- 6:43God or they go. They're going to pray it away or
- 6:45they're going to go to church. That is not enough.
- 6:48Y'all Faith without works is dead.
- 6:51If you look, if you pray on it that doesn't, you know, that
- 6:56absolutely doesn't change anything.
- 6:59What's a great prayer? Plus what?
- 7:00What are you doing? What are you doing aside from
- 7:03just praying? What else are you doing?
- 7:05I need something more. You need.
- 7:07Yeah, you need something more. You need to require something
- 7:09more in these scenarios. So, yeah, they're praying.
- 7:12But what are you saying? What else are they doing?
- 7:16They are. They don't believe in therapy.
- 7:18Then you. This is who you got to deal with
- 7:19y'all. They don't believe in therapy.
- 7:21This is who you got to deal with.
- 7:23Everything else goes out the window.
- 7:25This is who you have to deal with.
- 7:27I don't believe in therapy. Y'all conspiracy theories and
- 7:29therapy like people just out here just boy, this is a rough
- 7:33world we live in. I'll just be real.
- 7:34It is it is exhausting in in today's world out it just is
- 7:39idiocy and misinformation just run the world right now.
- 7:43So it's just people just make shit up, Don't believe in
- 7:45therapy but they believe in just weirdo shit.
- 7:47Just it makes my head hurt y'all?
- 7:51It really does. So yes, they know that they are
- 7:54hurting you. They absolutely know that they
- 7:58are doing you wrong. And do they care?
- 8:00Most of them do not care. As long as it doesn't affect
- 8:02their reputation or their livelihood, they don't care.
- 8:05This is why they'll only start crying after they they think
- 8:08they're going to get in trouble. They don't start crying because
- 8:11they hurt you. Ahma.
- 8:12Can't believe I hurt you. Nope.
- 8:14Can't believe I cheated on you. Can't believe I did this.
- 8:15Can't believe I did that. No.
- 8:16They cry when they get caught. Do you think they're crying when
- 8:19when they're cheating on you? You think they're crying when
- 8:21they You think they're crying when they're crying somebody
- 8:23else's cheeks. You think they're doing that?
- 8:24You think they're. I can't.
- 8:27Believe I'm. Doing this, No, no, they're not
- 8:34crying. They're smiling and anything
- 8:35they're into it, they smile. They doing they're not crying,
- 8:44but when you find out they crying because they know it
- 8:47hurt, they know it's going to hurt you.
- 8:49That's why they hide it. That's why they try to keep it a
- 8:50secret. They absolutely no bully.
- 8:54Are they going to stop? Why would they?
- 8:57Why would they stop y'all? Why would they stop these
- 9:00behaviors? Why would I stop a behavior that
- 9:03I feel like I'm getting rewarded for?
- 9:06I know this sounds harsh, but it's real.
- 9:08Why would I stop any behavior that I feel like I'm getting
- 9:11rewarded for? I'm getting rewarded for my
- 9:14behaviors. Why would I stop them?
- 9:17Why would I stop being manipulative?
- 9:18Why would I stop being deceptive?
- 9:20Why would I stop doing the all this other stuff?
- 9:21Why would I stop it? Why would I cease this stuff?
- 9:25If it's serving me and it works? If it's serving me and it works,
- 9:29why would I cease these things? You mean they will try to
- 9:36convince you that you are the worst person here because you
- 9:40want to tell people what's going on?
- 9:42They'll try to convince you that you are absolutely the the
- 9:46problem, like you are being problematic.
- 9:47You are the problem here. You are the you are the hurtful
- 9:50person here because you want to tell everybody.
- 9:52You going to ruin my life by telling everybody?
- 9:54What? You going to ruin my life by
- 9:58telling everybody what I done? I thought you loved me.
- 10:02I thought you cared about me. I guess not, right?
- 10:06I guess you don't give a fuck about me, right?
- 10:14I guess you don't care it out. I guess you never cared.
- 10:21Get the hell out of here y'all. Yes they know, but what are you
- 10:25going to do about it now? This is not me trying to tell
- 10:28you to leave, right? I I stopped telling people to
- 10:30leave, right? I give you the information
- 10:32necessary and then you have to make the you have to make
- 10:34decisions that are going to either benefit or be be to your
- 10:37benefit or to your detriment, right?
- 10:39I just give you the information necessary.
- 10:41That's what I'm doing right now. You hit me.
- 10:42Unless they being physically abusive, you mean I'll tell you,
- 10:46get out of there then, especially if they put their
- 10:47hands around here, you know, and none of they put their hands
- 10:50around here in a non consensual way.
- 10:54Then they got to go right. But in these positions, in these
- 10:59positions right here, you have to be what, ready, willing and
- 11:02able to operate in these in it within his, in his heart, right?
- 11:06You have to be able to like, what are you going to do about
- 11:08it? We'll let him start setting
- 11:10boundaries. It's very difficult to set
- 11:11boundaries when you're already in a relationship for years.
- 11:14It's very difficult because narcissists are not going to
- 11:16respect boundaries. Shout out to Doctor Robin, he
- 11:17said it. I saw that in a video the other
- 11:19day. Like people always say, she
- 11:20said, people already tell you to set boundaries.
- 11:22The hell is the point of selling battle with the narcissist?
- 11:24They're going to run over top of it.
- 11:27I'm like, damn, you know what? You right, Doctor Robert, are
- 11:29you right? But what are you gonna do,
- 11:32buddy? I'll take it.
- 11:33What it What does winning look like here?
- 11:36What does taking action look like for you?
- 11:37Because you have to apply that action and whatnot?
- 11:39Yeah, but I ain't going to keep you all too long.
- 11:42Y'all not trying to keep you this like 13 around 13 minutes.
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